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I have so much gearing work to do when I get home
gotta gear 1 rogue for outlaw, 1 for sub, and disc priest
pain in the ass honestly
why cant s1 conq gear be = to s2 honor
Yep
so much work for nothing
I have 4 chars and 6 specs to gear
Imagine 10 characters
Imagine not just playing sub
Just to probably get hardstuck at 1800
I enjoy learning how to play and getting good with other classes
illusion unlocked
It's always useful to know how other classes work/play in PvP too
weps next
Feel like I’ve learned way more about pvp as a whole in TWW s1 than I did throughout all of SL and DF where I only really played rogue
i know it has the vers and mast forthanks bro
But man it’s a lot of shit to do
Well you want chest and shoulders this week to turn both into tier
That’s why I linked the gearing faq
Yeye
illusion looks ass lmao
Yep
it gives off a black smoke aura at the base of the sword
ontop of the bright jackpots coming off it weiird combo
?
nvm I just read the pin
So we can't refraft anymore?
It was take advantage yesterday or bust?
You still can
You just lose the sockets and shit
You still need s2 gear regardless
well! Thats the whole reason to do it 😄
I'm so upset with blizzard 😦
My vicious bloodstone stocks
I liquidated yesterday because I thought I was fked. And now that I've sold all my bloodstones for a loss. They fix the bug.
.......... what is this game........ Rigged.
1.36mil ST dps on pvp dummy LMAO
Pvp dummy 
Oh?
Because it’s a damage proc
yeah dusk threads only at 756 verse still it didnt go up
The stats make you do more damage
Your ilvl and main stats increasing makes the value of the secondaries also increase in a way
But less more
Dmg procs have to scale in order to stay relevant
Compared to the stat procs
So in the end it doesn’t matter
End of the day all the embellishes are kinda minor
though duskthread can suck if you're the main target.
been rocking double radiant as outlaw since last season lol
I assume these are useless to Chads again this season?
Think assa will also stick with depths
You can craft a decent ilvl piece with them
Like 675
But you’d need pve currency
I mean - I did a few delves and they were KINDA ok
I’m gonna craft a weapon with mine, but I plan on doing a little pve
I think you have to do level 11 delves for the currency, or +7(?) m+ dungeons
Idr
It's just the whole queuing for faceless speedruns of dungeons or joining my frankly tryhard guild...
They did like server first and shit
2s with outlaw doubles is insanity
I'll stick to pure PvP - the way I see it, PvE weapon will be like a 1 week bonus
I mean honor gear is already like max rank hero track wep
so youd have to be kinda lucky/really deep into pve to get an advantage for pvp early
Isn’t crafted wep 675
and on top of that, an early advantage in pvp is entirely irrelevant
yeah but you dont have those crests
p sure theyre capped early
Pretty sure assa mains are crafting those weps rn
and youd have to be doing I think +10s(?) I think to get those max crests
or mythic raid
11 delves
max pve crafted wep would be 3 ilvls less so 675
delves dont drop max rank crests do they I thought it was 1 level below
Psure they do
i think they updateed dedlves at 11 to do max crests
Max crest is Myth?
ah nice
Ye
And they changed m+ crests too
Can I do delve 11 in PvP gear? I think I got to 8 pretty easily last season and gave up
and u get 16 from a clear instead of 12
try it out
gotta get that minor ilvl advantage in week 1 of pvp for no reason lol
so u can upgrade 1 item a clear now which is nice. i think 12+ keys give like 18 crests
How long does it take to level brann
Actually, just wana try PvE
619 for upgrading blues
Will make questing a little faster
Warmonger STARTS at 4/8 with 636
Pretty insane actually
9/9 sockets on day 2 of the season feels hella nice XD
American advantage
honestly consider yourself lucky
cuz you dont have a random subsection of people with an unfair advantage czu they were there on patch day
lol
EU had it too
Naw
I had teacher's meetings and shit today
ah they just had an even smaller window? lol
sheesh
rogue + rogue >>> rogue + mage
Are you using the lens embel?
double verse
What?
x2 duskthread
i used both for prob half the season each. dont really notice going from one to the other
Say you saw a rogue with 1x lens and 1x thread - would you think "There goes a rogue - he knows where his towel is" ?
Or would you think he's some sort of mad noob?
I would say he’s a genius and a scholar
I wouldn't think that be a noob
Plus, I know we all pretend to be the sweatiest players around, but who really looks out for thread and keeps someone under 90% for it?
A real man among men - not conforming to the laws of society
But also a weirdo why not 2 of the same thing
you dont have to
cuz thread is like 0.2% dps increase
ez
Pfff, you don't even look out for thread and keep them below 90?
Bro, that's like some 101 shit there
drink me up hearties might be clutch. almost 5 mil healing from it in 2s
Zanaken ignoring my quips 
it was clutch
lol
we both were on the slivers of our hp bars
before that feral died
assa
Now, I wana make it clear that this isn't a quip, but: What quips?
Excuses
The queues for shuffle are also weird as hell right now
Waited an hour for one, then insta popped one just now
It's like 12:30
Nearly at 1800 though, then I can quit for the whole season
No way, you gotta go for 2100
I like that more skilled players have been pushed down to this rating, noticing less people breaking my CC and stuff
69 rating till i get wep illusions
Plus everyone kinda insta-sniffs out the noobies and wordlessly signal to each other who is going 0-6 this game with a side-eye
so tru
how do you do a solo shuffle? system isn't letting me join a match
need to be like 662 pvp ilvl
we just decimated a resto druid n BM hunter
so, in summary, they doesn't keep sockets anymore, right?
s1 to s2 no more, s2 honor to s2 conq yes
They didn't even stand a chance
wrecked lmao
Unseen doing nearly 9% - dang

ez
Enferz if you in here GOOD SHIT for that solo round
wait where is my 2nd catalyst charge? im 1600
It's a green little booger in your bags
Gotta click
thx i big dumb
gotcha, i won't do anything then yet
until the weekend
had to be fast 
Thank fuq I got my precog gems on my casters before the fix
Exploit early exploit often
ggs lol
Wait, fuck - I used my first socket for big gem instead of the little gem
Now my lens isn't proccing
Just replace it

It's like 2k gold

gz
756 verse still idk if thats up from last season
i think i still have a losing record too LOL
Pew pew

I'm splitting so much time between alts
am I correct that you don't have to do any : prized weapons of conquest" quest to buy the conquest points weapons? you just need to surpass a certain total number of points earned right?
Don't think I can even queue ss this week
Yes just get 2.5 conq
2.5k
they dont have an elite recolor of the 1 H sword or axe..... literally just a fist wep for us outlaws
and yall dagger rogues get 2 to choose from... /cry
Is it just me or have the... quality of horde players gone down a lot?
traitors
Hearing a lot of "Let them win" at the 2 minute mark
Or full life stories about how they lost their last 9 games
wraithchill makes the elite weps match the armor color lol
i just had
a monk tell me he cant catch ranged
when i tell him tunnel aff lock on ruins of leordaeron
depends
if is a mage
if is a mage
Also, why are locks tanks now?
I'd be tempted to swap to Alliance to win more BGs, but I can't give up on my badass female blood elf
Look at her
Gorgeous
horde bg que 2 min ally 8min
But WHY?
Is the ally racials really THAT much better that anyone who cares about PvP is forced to swap?
It's not as bad as I hear on /bg but I'm still only winning about 2/5
i dont really track normal bg wins
shadowmeld
hell i use merc mode for faster ques lolol
and smeld is op
rogues and druids get a psudo vansih
healers can immune 1 cc of their choice
off gcd
also meld drinking
Did meld get buffed? Used to be that undead/human was the way to go - meld doesn't break roots does it?
Immune as in hit meld during animation?
but if someones casting poly at me on disc priest i can beld it
oh
yeah if u meld as it hits u immune it
u can meld storm bolts all fuckin day
Eh, we used to vanish coil back in my day, but it wasn't reliable
anyone know what i should be doing in 2s? feels like every comp is unkillable dam diff is just insane
need more context
i started playing the last week of s1 and i play w my friend disc priest/assa rogue
What's that talent that makes sub dual wield daggers?
It's really time to remove racials in arena
we were doing well but now
i am doing 30-50% less damage against any dps im going against
there isn't a talent that makes sub weild daggers
i dont feel like im doing worse but disc/assa feels super weak
did you buy new gear
it must be a skill diff but i just cant wrap my mind around whats going wrong
Remind me
i thought sub was perma 1 hander in OH
shadow techniques is a passive, which is what makes sub require 2 daggers. there's also improved shadow techniques and shadowcraft, but those aren't what makes 2 daggers a requirement. it's just the passive as a whole.
You know what I mean. The talent that makes 1h offhand bad
Ah I see
Ty
it's not a talent is all i'm pointing out
no, it's a passive
there's talents that buff the passive, but the passive is huge on its own
I asked but they ignored my ignorant question
a slow offhand is like -70 or more ilvl
Jeez
How is this damage diff real?
Did you walk away from your keyboard?
i mean
im pretty much learning how to play the spec from my own cuz no one on twitch or youtube plays retail cannot figure out how to actually dps effectively
Oh you're new, my b
Learn the spec in general or in pvp?
well i only do pvp
i just came back and do not wanna play m_
m+
i feel like i press every possible button but i obviously am not
feral is broken its not even fun to play against
I understand but I highly suggest you learn a spec in a much less dynamic environment. Not necessarily M+ but dungeons nonetheless. I also don't know your knowledge of the spec so I may be talking to a wall
i feel like i know most of what there is
But applying it is where you have issues?
in games i feel like im doing all that i can to cc healer and get bleeds and pump but i either cant get a re with no vanish or i am out of energy
not able to get enough envenoms to keep slice n dice up
thats how every spec feels to me atm except like frost dk
cuz their gimmick is garbage
you should rarely be low on energy
Sub rogue without the CCs or stealth
@stoic spruce thoughts on dropping crack for greenskin with KIR
on poisoned targets
You know good and well dropping crack isn't an option
make sure you're utilizing indisciminate carnage whenever you can
cleaving your bleed casts after breaking stealth
Wait a fuckin second. @spring bough we had this convo like 3 times before lol
my disc priest is with me the whole time but their healer is almost always across the map
i mean i am sure im just playing the game wrong but im having trouble figuring out the problem
Sounds like a culmination of multiple things tbh
no biggie
Yeah
That line got me my last gf btw
Just to be a bit off topic
yeah
rogue/disc feels horrible
i really dont understand
becuse disc is supposed to be one of the best heals
Bandages for the win
Bro gets it
Have you tried blaming your partner?
Is your disc new too?
This is how I lost my last gf
Wasn't meant to be if she sucked, bro
That wasn’t professions
yes we are brothers started at the same time
Except I didn't blame her, I simply pointed out what she did wrong and how to improve.
That's a pvp talent
obviously i didnt play well here
You fucking idiot
but you can maybe see my brain process
Survival hunters have an ability that clears bleeds. It’s not profs
Resto a good target rn
so we tried to switch something up
Yeah - it's a UI issue
🤣🤣🤣
They hated him for spitting facts
No trolling newer players that want to learn
Lmao premium Zan satire
i mean i dont mind getting trolled a bit because i know im bad
Technically, I'm clowning, not trolling
EWWW IS THAT THE NEW ARENA
Zanaken is just an asshat, don’t mind him
new arena cucks me all the time too
If you want actual advice - you and your bro should have a good idea of what you want to do BEFORE the match starts
why cause of the new arena? there so many LOS points in it LOL
Like, start with a planned CC chain and positioning
That new arena has blacklisted me to bgb when i do resub i refuse to run around that shit show excuse for an arena
Casters dream
A bread and butter CC chain is crucial imo
Bro missed the blind sap days
Still there, just stun or gouge first
@slender barn this is why we don't play sub
Assa and Outlaw is for men
If it takes an extra CC, it's not blind sap
You guys should try some BGs and then Blitz while you’re learning
Ooo yeah blitz for the healer queues
If you’ve only been playing pvp for a week or two
outlaw*
is bgs actually helpful for learning arena?
Yes
Lmaoooo just gunna dump bro off in blitz like that ?! Diabolical activity
Pvp in general
litterally from 1 week ago
You have to learn what every class does
felt so much stronger
yes cuz i dont understand
most stuf
stuff
You’re queuing into mostly sweaty players because it’s week 1
because i have pretty much only played retail in m+ dragonflight
never done retail pvp
Yeah playing for real rn is actually throwing in terms of mental health
Like if you’re this new to pvp
i feel that
Arena Skirmishes have entered the chat
Unrated shuffle
the queuing is completely stupid
im 1570 rn
i dont lose anything for a loss
\
i have 15 wins and like 60 or 70 loses
He's just like me fr
1 set down 12 to go
we are 1700 mmr and it shows us going against teams with over 2100
it doesnt feel real at all
Welcome to wow pvp
Because it’s week 1 man
and im not learning shit when i get ez clapped so hard
That is why I said
okay
Week 1 arena queues are generally a slaughterhouse for anyone fresh to pvp
Won’t get better at rogue over night from playing M+ my guy , give it two weeks of straight queues , and record your matches good and bad you’ll be better in no time
Shuffle isn’t as bad
yeah legit arena blitz rbgs are fucked weeks 1-3 for the casuals bc all the pros have 0 rating and need to push toons etc
But you can’t queue shuffle with your bro
also if ur recording get trufigcd it will help knowing what ur trying to press etgc
i couldn't imagine someone who has never played wow at all trying to play arena
But keep recording ur games and reviewing it, that’s good stuff @slender barn
Personally I wait a couple weeks for conquest cap to get high enough I can spam queues all day and earn something other than rating rather than just earning rating and it feeling like I'm dragging my nuts across broken glass.
Good for learning
trickz do i gear main or alt rogue first, and or do i just go dh, will have to farm honor on dh thouhg bc BLIZZ FUCKED THE TRANSFERS AKLFGDSJKAFL
Flip a coin
Dk set is hot
I have no honor on DH either
i usually go priest first bc fastest honoir farm and free conq tokens from shuffles
bracer recraft ate my socket

you cant see opener here
They fixed it @outer sky
but lock is just like i dont know wtf is happening on my screen
this game is fried potentially
i have him in a smoke bomb there
and i am full pumping or trying to
but his health doesnt go down at all
People were saying monk super op weeks ago, is it real?
Ye
He popped his defensive before you bombed
u can use some settings to reduce pet nameplates on ur frames
er screen so its easier to see through the zoo
Get BetterBlizzPlates and get rid of Plater @slender barn
fixed what
got that 1337 LEET rating in double outlaw 2s lol

Check pins
ah fuck
!stats
These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.
Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.
Yeah
Massively stacked haste outlaw is very fun btw
Yeah thats a common consensus
everyone seems to hav emajor advantage over me
cuz i cant look at my omnibar as good as tjem
im having the time of my life
everyone else is used to using all the addons and has been for years
its just a learning thing
d you know where
i need to do that
i have 29.64% haste and 34.77% verse lol
If only it weren't almost throwing
If I recraft a piece from this season to a higher ilvl will it keep its socket?
yes
The place where tab targeting goes to die
ok sick
@unique heath can't use the server as LFG
oh sorry didnt know
no worries
I was gonna flame you but I saw the baby
so ur not gonna flame him but instead flame his kid?
toxic
Yeah
gnome rogue doesnt quite give the same advantage as nelf
it seems im the only gnome rogue in the world
thats the kinda toxicity i need rn
It all makes sense now
i wouldn't worry much about racials tbh
not worth $20
until you get to the point of pushing Elite or Glad
gnome is BIS
what do you guys spend marks of honor on and where?
old pvp mogs
old pvp mogs
old expansion pvp vendors for transmog
area 52 for tbc
You play nelf rogue too? How original
just go to where that expacs pvp guys were set up and purchase there
it is so fire
Worse, gnome goblin and vulpera
yikes
I just like being a silly little guy
Based honestly
I have a vulp sub rogue
For the exact same reason
You can't be mad at a little fella
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Does anyone know the bloody token cap for next week
yayyy rated blitz popped
lol youll get banned so fast
Always escalate
blitz is like the perfect environment to get chat banned
They can't ban you if you vanish quick enough
my disc priest friend chat banned from solo shuffle
call your team shit and 7 reports at the same time just go straight through to an automated ban
If blizz wanted me to not escalate they wouldn't have made outlaw apm so high
everyone whisps him when they lose from going LoS
Last time I played I told a pally they put the ret in --- so now I'm scared to log back on and face the music
I do want to point out he started it
@severe helm did you see the WF gallywix kill
What was the exploit?
lol yes
If you never witness your ban did it ever happen in the first place
rextroy is the goat
Wasn't it a pretender
is it confirmed rextroy?
Just using his name
I just tell them that "ret isnt short for retribution"
Ah man that's a good one
I mean
if anyone is good enough at finding those things
its him
so Id believe it
but idk
he isn't the only exploiter
I know
there's communities of them
It might not be him I just wouldnt be surprised if it is him
Apparently they found a way to use a gm cheat
he doesn't do stuff like that
Idk how true that is though
My work week started so I won't know for 7 days
yeah usually he does solo kills later
he finds clever ways of killing bosses, but doesn't hack the game
they hacked or bugged something wild ig
is it just me or is omnibar complete trash
just you
its completely unusable without full clutter and i cant see my game
omnibar clutters my screen so much i dont really use it lmao
i have stuff on nameplates tho
wht setting do people use for betterblizzplates?
i installed but the plates are just ginourmous
do people paly with it like that?
Giniminasaurus?
yse
Hello!
ginominourious\
any recommendations
Yo Joe
look at the bottom of the settings window, there's buttons for preloaded profiles
i would recommend using Magnusz or Nahj profile
time to learn something new
I have a confession
try MAgnusz
I have never crafted anything for pvp because the crafting system confuses me
can i configure with dots it puts on?
i want to just see garrote rupter and like crimson
mainly so i can know when my dots are falling off
yeah
and kings bane
some stuff will have to be customized yourself
okay
i can give you my profile if you want
sure
okay
i crafted 1 dagger and 1 ring
no
but im not good so dont trust me
MM is so busted when can we get HOTFIIX nerfs
it says sweatier players might
at least thats how i intepreted it
but most of them are not
we get free weapons week 3
Ngl outlaw doesn’t feel good in shuffle at all
and they added vers/mast dagger to the conquest vendor
are vicious gems able to be sent
All the pirates negative wr lol
its a giant waste to craft a weapon rn
It never has
shoot
idk im doing like milly dps constant lol
It only shines in coordinated teams
between characters? yeah
wait notricks
im lookin in the faqs
if you're going to use them
the Focusing Lens requires a stat gem
idek anymore
or it won't proc
im actually confused now
whats the proc called
bc now i saw the item that adds a socket
"elemental focusing lens"
stressed
for BBP
you're sub right?
yeah @potent pivot
does anyone know how I can get my damage numbers to round up or down
that i can actually put a gem in?
so it shows "50k" instead of 50549
- just buy conquest chest/shoulders->catalyst them both into tier set
- buy bloody token cloak/gloves
- craft or buy honor pieces for the rest
- use your 9 free conquest heraldries for neck/rings
easy
i got helm shoulders but shouldnt be too much diferent i hope
what mistake
i used the conquest heraldries on 1 ring and 1 dagger
well
Now I gotta learn how to craft
you can use honor heraldries to craft any item and socket it
but does anyone know what add on
so i am missing an insane damage off that
like bracers for example @slender barn
wdym? the font?
yeah but its more for just rounding the numbers off
nah, its not a huge deal
ive seen it in a few pvpers vids
requires addons n shit
and the other one is on my dagger'
it doesn't matter what item your embellishment is on
you just need to socket some other piece
ohhh
it will proc off a gem from anywhere
it won't proc off this gem
has to be a stat gem
yes thats my case
prolly better to stat gem first ye
would def recommend farming a 2nd socket for the meta gem as well
yeah its a little convoluted the first time
once you learn everything its not so bad
you are saying to get blood token pieces
but
how do you even do that
can you consistently farm war mode kills??
masterful sapphire will proc my embellishments?
weekly quest gives you 1k bloody tokens
okay
all other WQs done in war mode give 100 tokens
any stat gem will proc it, you just use whatever gem is better stats for your spec
so for assa mast>vers gem
theres just so many gems in the game at this point
check this out
just gotta make surei m not buying dragonflight ones xD
wiw ijay
multiple stats
i feel so much better wpw
wow
i cant believei was missing elemental focusing lens
how well the green heraldry are selling right now is so funny
2pc acquired
it doesn't make any sense lol
but i guess people really buy the gear
So I did something a little different this time with Bloody token gear I got the cloak but instead of gloves I got the bracers instead. I did this so I can just put the max ranked enchants on both and just get gloves next week. So far I do not regret this decision.
they need to fix this car jumping instead of drifting shit, omega annoying
why would that matter for enchants though?
cause im broke and didnt want to enchant green honor gear bracers
you could've crafted bracers and enchanted them
I crafted 2 rings and a neck

lol
i just said
Why did you guys kill him
lol
i was talking about all of them
okay i see
yeh
sometimes the color of names doesn't mean anything in here as well
since this is 1 channel for all 3 specs, and sometimes people don't bother changing their color
2p without 4p is sus because it can just remove from half your abilities
but you dont even get the 4p from removal
To be fair I probably over thought it and what not but I will have more gold by the time I upgrade them down the road
ye i was just pointing it out because
its gonna end up being the same cost regardless
crafting is cheap
are u sure
?
a dagger should cost 1k
the dagger was cheaper
but not by a lot
it was 500 each for core and charged things
so like 4k there
the embellishments are cheap
and missives
they're 100 each
well i shouldve waited1 day to get them
oh
that's probably the issue
well thats the issue
i remember in DF when i was doing m+ i used the wrong mats one time and griefed myself
so i didnt wanna do that again
Unless you are in my situation and someone decided to put rank 3 mats cheaper than rank 1 and 2 mats XD
but pvp is completely diff
the only thing that rank matters, is enchants, because they're applied after the craft
okay
so its not fully wasted
but not for the boost for pvp
yeah
enchants are expensive tho
can be
for crafted bracers
is it better to get the full mastery or split mast/ver
in your opinion
split
no
1600 pvp 2k m+ aotc give 1 catalyst charge
awe kk ty
Best spec for arena? I'm guessing sub is the worst unless you're in 2v2?
assa/outlaw rn i would say unless ur goated
unironically assa bringing more cc than sub now that duel is gone
sub is fine
sub's burst is unironically really strong rn
should be fine in any bracket
i love trickster outlaw
We gathered
Second week conquest is 550 irght?
does anyone have an omnibar setup that isnt completely in the way?
wait tf is Essence of Kaja'mite the currency to catalyze my conq chest piece? I thought it was some spark or something
600
The sparks you get in your bags are for pve
ah ok ty
They just changed the name of the catalyst charge to fit the undermine theme
does sass even want the 2 / 4 pce?
this priest I'm playing with is already 2400 in Shuffle wtf
2 yes, 4 unsure so far
how do you get the second catalyst charge? I am at 1760 rating
This is good
Ppl will actually play beginning of season now
Haven't touched pvp yet, is there the 9 heraldry quest again?
sick so I assume upgrade old rings + neck?
i think u get a thing in ur mail/bags or go to the catalyst itself not sure, haven't q'd yet
ye
Awesome
You get a pile of green dust in your bags and you need to right click it to add a charge
lol
took me far too long to figure that out

With that honor level, I'm guessing he is playing all day long.
This was the most accurate description ever
4 piece for outlaw sounds good no?
Yeah. It’s nerfed in pvp but outlaw doesn’t really care about stats after a certain point so may as well run it
iirc in pvp it makes your chance to 5roll like 7%
Ahh that kinda blows, but understandable.
anyone else noticed that DH eyes dont break on damage anymore?
are these reps important at all?
like from the weekly quest rewards
also should i wait to turn them in since im conquest capped?
no
gearing up all trickster alt
yeah
I thin kthey have a talent
where it lasts a little bit after getting hit
they did that in like the 0.5 patch I think though
any good and active assa rogues out there on youtube or twitch?
anyone else think spamming dr is just not fun at all
like cyclone spam
or anything like that
like its just good but not good for the game at all
been in the game a loooong time
