i'am lamenting at why they buff his aoe in pvp
#pvp
dark stump
potent pivot
i'am lamenting at why they buff his aoe in pvp
it isn't an aoe buff
dark stump
it isn't an aoe buff
oooh
tribal badger
idk all i know is i faced an enhance who was getting tunneled in a lobby and he ran this thingy
and he was immortal
potent pivot
oooh
apex predator is bite proc. basically this is buffing apex procs off your multi dots.
tribal badger
every heal was like 60-70% hp
severe helm
I mean again you can only heal yourself 4-5 times
tribal badger
he just cast one every 10-20s
severe helm
but yeah their heals are strong
tribal badger
while playing defensivly
severe helm
theyre just as strong on allies though too so
it doesnt have any more or less impact attacking them vs their teammate
they receive a little extra healing from themselves
via
were losing the plot though lol
feral def has lots of self healing
tribal badger
for sure
ferals offhealing and self healing is pretty good, defensivly id say its decent as a spec on a whole
instant self heal cd, active self healing, bear form and regen, barkskin and survival instincts
severe helm
ferals defensiveness comes from its mobility a lot too
tribal badger
yup
severe helm
thats how I feel as outlaw
kiting melee with grapple is hilarious
its so underutilized defensively
candid tide
feral just dies when barkskin and si are off
tribal badger
bear form does not have a cd
its not as strong as its been historically but its definitly noticable
idk i feel like theres melee that feel much more squishy
molten hedge
Good thing we can stun them in kitty
candid tide
u just gotta survive wincarn
dark stump
Good thing we can stun them in kitty
i was a main mage until i met a feral
severe helm
Good thing we can stun them in kitty
yes dying in a stun is a common thing lol
I always find it funny when people are like "no but X dies in a stun so easily theyre so squishy"
like yeah thats how you kill things in pvp
potent pivot
some classes have stuff they can press in cc tho
severe helm
the specs that can use all their defensives inside a stun usually end up being tuned to just die to passive damage overtime or they are waaay too tanky
potent pivot
that's kinda what the saying means
severe helm
Yeah but that doesnt mean you are/arent squishy
potent pivot
ofc
severe helm
the defensives are balanced around how/when they can be used so its just a bad counterpoint lol
like outlaw dies in a stun
is outlaw squishy?
fuck no
potent pivot
certain things are tanky af but can die in a stun
severe helm
Yeah exactly
potent pivot
some things are kinda squishy but don't die as easily in a stun
severe helm
warlock
potent pivot
and vice versa
severe helm
yeah it generally has no bearing on tankiness haha
candid tide
everything dies in shuffle at a point if u dont have uptime
severe helm
everything dies in shuffle at a point if u dont have uptime
yeah thats why they invented dampening haha
honestly dampening going up faster in shuffle does have a significant impact on the meta in that mode compared to 3s
it def changes things
tribal badger
its funny cause feral is one of the few specs with stuff to hit in a stun right
i think there arent all that many things u can press in a stun anymore tbh
but barkskin is one of them
potent pivot
i think more classes have defensives for stuns than not
severe helm
its funny cause feral is one of the few specs with stuff to hit in a stun right
theres a ton now
yeah def more with than without
severe helm
for sure
severe helm
shaman
tribal badger
warrior
tribal badger
hunter
severe helm
only arms cant
potent pivot
Shaman doesn’t?
severe helm
nope
severe helm
sham cant wall during stuns
severe helm
oh dev cant right
tribal badger
evoker cant
severe helm
well pres has communion
tribal badger
pres can use a healing cd in a stun but thats about it
severe helm
so I count it
tribal badger
sure i wouldnt call that a stun defensive
since that is a pretty major healing cd and if u get pres to use it on just a self heal in a stun
thats a massive win
severe helm
its more than half that have at least something to press during a stun to save themselves
candid tide
yeah thats why they invented dampening haha
its more like race against time than a chess match
potent pivot
I feel like classes with good 1-1.5min CDs should be better in shuffle but it just depends on rating too ig
Because sub for example is kinda ass
severe helm
back when boomy was 3 min
it just auto won on second incarn
and you could play around that hard
had one of the highest cutoffs in shuffle for like multiple seasons in a row
even when it wasnt in meta in 3s
potent pivot
Don’t they have 2 now
potent pivot
Imagine feral with 2 charges of incarn kek
candid tide
bro dk is so hard tf
potent pivot
That’s gotta be one of the strongest CDs in the game atm
severe helm
bro dk is so hard tf
which spec?
candid tide
which spec?
unholy
candid tide
ai trust the process
potent pivot
Instead of energy you have runes
And instead of combo points you’ve got runic power
candid tide
the rotation is so edgy need a balance between stuff
vivid moat
Hi, I am new to wow and going to play a rogue. Which spec has the easiest rotation and should I play. From my understanding Night Elf is the race I should use. Any guides that anyone would recommend for a beginner. I would like to do a lot of pvp.
severe helm
Hi, I am new to wow and going to play a rogue. Which spec has the easiest rotati...
assa
vivid moat
Thanks so Assassin Night elf.
severe helm
ye
vivid moat
Thanks I will give it a try
potent pivot
Hi, I am new to wow and going to play a rogue. Which spec has the easiest rotati...
I’d just use murlok.io for gear and builds later on, after you’re max level. Look up some generic pvp guides, just remember as far as builds/rotation etc vids get outdated quickly
vivid moat
k thanks for tips appreciate it. Will need all the help I can get.
dark stump
Hi, I am new to wow and going to play a rogue. Which spec has the easiest rotati...
assa and use a build from murlok or icyvein without KB
(king's bane)
old brook
Hi, I am new to wow and going to play a rogue. Which spec has the easiest rotati...
If you’re not afraid of a learning curve, picking up subtlety early will go a long way though
molten hedge
If you’re not afraid of a learning curve, picking up subtlety early will go a lo...
Playing sub for even a week made me super aware when I switched back to another spec
vivid moat
K thanks
dark stump
Playing sub for even a week made me super aware when I switched back to another ...
and playing outlaw for a week made go back to assa
molten hedge
Lmaooo im the opposite. I got bored of assa. I find outlaw fun as hell
But it’s only been 3 days. Let’s give it 4 more
vivid moat
Does what server I choose matter? I hear it does not matter. I was going to choose a less populated RP server.
potent pivot
i feel like it's good to learn how to play all 3 specs. all 3 won't always be good like they are rn
potent pivot
Does what server I choose matter? I hear it does not matter. I was going to choo...
it only matters for certain things, like buying gear on the auction house
molten hedge
If they buff sub I’ll deff be going to that
potent pivot
more populated servers usually have much cheaper crafted gear etc
dark stump
i feel like it's good to learn how to play all 3 specs. all 3 won't always be go...
the only thing that i learnt from outlaw is pressing the right button
vivid moat
So the server will not affect que times for like solo shuffle and BG's etc?
potent pivot
nope
vivid moat
k cool
dark stump
Does what server I choose matter? I hear it does not matter. I was going to choo...
exception to the auction house dg or pvp queueing are mix server
potent pivot
most auction house stuff is region wide, except for gear and other certain things
dark stump
If they buff sub I’ll deff be going to that
loved the time when i had a macro in df for sub rogue
2 sec one dead
potent pivot
but like crafting mats, consumables, pots/flasks/etc, are region wide
vivid moat
I was reading about GSE Macro but appears to not work so well for rogues.
vivid moat
k that is what I was thinking.
dark stump
I was reading about GSE Macro but appears to not work so well for rogues.
GSE ? what does it mean?
potent pivot
the only spec in the game that somewhat works with GSE is BM Hunter
but you still have to press your stuns and other utility yourself
potent pivot
GSE ? what does it mean?
Gnome Sequencer
molten hedge
I totally forgot I was testing ln and dropped forced ind and one supercharger for leech and vigor lmao
potent pivot
it's an addon that let's you macro an entire rotation to 1 button
dark stump
k that is what I was thinking.
the only time when u use macro is to stun ur focus target or two spell that need to be together
potent pivot
it's not recommend to use if you want to play optimally, especially in pvp
sour coral
do we get the leeching fangs heal while vanished?
potent pivot
do we get the leeching fangs heal while vanished?
every 5 sec while OOC
sour coral
Hm seems like a solid cloak enchant then if we vanish cheese enough
potent pivot
ye its good
sour coral
especially with soothing darkness on top of all that
potent pivot
idk why more ppl don't run it
jaunty osprey
They care about that 1% speed that they never notice the different of
potent pivot
I guess most people just read the “every 5 sec OOC” and assume it’s trash
Does it insta heal when you Vanish?
Or meld
potent pivot
Or do you have to stay OOC for 5sec for the first heal
That’s kinda the important thing ig
jaunty osprey
Stay out of combat for 5 seconds but if you vanish, you’re ooc for at least 3 seconds if you use it defensively
and if u’re at a pillar can def get much more value out of it
severe helm
Leeching is insane
vivid moat
What professions should I choose as an Assassination Rogue?
sour coral
makes up for not having the snd heal constantly running
severe helm
What professions should I choose as an Assassination Rogue?
Professions have no combat impact in pvp
sour coral
engineering for anything non .. serious though
vivid moat
ok thanks
dark stump
What professions should I choose as an Assassination Rogue?
or even if u rlly want to do profession choose something leatherwork maybe but it's 0 impact
gusty hedge
last night hit 1600 on mw ( haven't played since legion) 
dark stump
last night hit 1600 on mw ( haven't played since legion) <a:venthyr:761033570277...
why are u flexing ? (hardstuck 1k5 in ss)
gusty hedge
why are u flexing ? (hardstuck 1k5 in ss)
fresh toon geared out in a few days, this a milestone for me as i dont play healer and only dabbled during end of legion.
why so salty?
dark stump
fresh toon geared out in a few days, this a milestone for me as i dont play heal...
did i say anything salty ?
i asked a geniune question
both are good for cleaving but assa is simple to play
gusty hedge
https://tenor.com/view/cat-hate-mad-angry-tsv-gif-26539838
sorry if i have taken this the wrong way
dark stump
sorry if i have taken this the wrong way<a:venthyr:761033570277916682>
no problem all good
gusty hedge
im so used to people bashing 😂 Im like dam i know im hard stuck why u gotta rain on my parade 🤣 not realizing you might be talking about yourself being stuck
potent pivot
Probably outlaw
sour coral
alrighty so im about to hit 80 ive got almost a full set of forged warmonger waiting for me should I craft cloak and bracers for elemental focusing lense?
potent pivot
alrighty so im about to hit 80 ive got almost a full set of forged warmonger wai...
if you've got a full set of wpvp gear ready, craft rings/neck
sour coral
Ive been busy idk why It all just added up and I eventually had all these bloody tokens
vocal ginkgo
Was excited to play a bit but it’s been 30+ mins in a solo shuffle queue
Not that excited anymore
sour coral
ill miss solo shuffle
er
no the other thing, the event that was going on
whatever its called
potent pivot
no the other thing, the event that was going on
comp stomp?
sour coral
yes but Gun™
spring bough
Conquest box luck getting 2Hs on a fresh fury warrior 🙌
dark stump
i wonder which should i try pvp with
any suggestion (dps)
potent pivot
i wonder which should i try pvp with
any suggestion (dps)
what, an alt?
dark stump
what, an alt?
yes
potent pivot
surv is fun, dk is fun
severe helm
rofl outlaw melts mages
so fun
aww the healer quit lol
I relaly feel like having armor still in the game just leads to these situations where some specs just get an absurd rock paper scissors advantage over others for no real reason
molten hedge
I think I need to pve more on outlaw. I lean towards the micro cc like DR cheaps and gouge during my burst but I needa just full send it. I also was just in a lobby where me and surv deleted the mage and lock just going all in lol
jaunty osprey
I relaly feel like having armor still in the game just leads to these situations...
Ya, but that’s the beauty of shuffle
u cant win em all
some comps and matchups favour u, some dont
severe helm
I meant in general
I was saying this from the perspective of the person winning haha
severe helm
in terms of balancing though it makes blizz's life harder
jaunty osprey
That mage shouldve won with the sp and u
severe helm
how do you balance specs like MM when they can destroy a mage but do piss damage to a war
jaunty osprey
only round he loses default is with WW
severe helm
That mage shouldve won with the sp and u
we didnt make it there the healer left
he did win with me
but thats not my point
my point is more around how do you design around armor values
its a nightmare from a balance perspective
jaunty osprey
I mean look at it this way
MM has an MS, shuffle starts with dampening
and most lobbies have 1-2 casters
jaunty osprey
ok well
u partner with a feral then
and u guys win by ccing and bursting
before BM takeover, MM was the most popular spec to start the season
and the first few weeks to follow it
every spec can preform quite well as long as u arent running some rando comp
jaunty osprey
Wym, it’s completely controllable
The game has to be balanced like this
you shouldnt have a game where everyone offers the same toolkits and strengths
jaunty osprey
🫡
Making plate classes squishier and the clothies tankier isn’t the solution
Each class has stuff in their toolkits to account for their lack of/ excess of armor
I think it’s completely fine that a MM hunter can pump into a mage but not into a warrior
and it’s not like the warrior is unkillable at all
stiff mesa
its not always as simple as that
MM doesnt just pump into mages back in DF there were times MM was forcing cauterize in a gcd from stealth
candid tide
Warrior heals plenty if it can stick on u
stiff mesa
especially in the current season where BM hunters are every lobby it feels like mage is ass
candid tide
And if u have good uptime with ignore pain dudes just stop targeting u altogether
jaunty osprey
well, y’all missing the point of the topic regarding armour
jaunty osprey
a good mage doesnt just fall over to bm hunters anyway because of their toolkit
candid tide
I saw raiku vs mariabanks yesterday in shuffle he had it rough
stiff mesa
true but im saying the way blizz balanced the game it isnt always as simple as hunter pumps mage abit more than they do with warrior
jaunty osprey
And raiku still won the lobby no?
stiff mesa
its heavily favoured into hunter
stiff mesa
using the best mage in the world as an example of mages being able to win vs hunters is not a good example either ngl
jaunty osprey
Im saying
severe helm
a good mage doesnt just fall over to bm hunters anyway because of their toolkit
okay again not what im saying
jaunty osprey
Normalizing armour does nothing
severe helm
my point is why have an abitrary strength do to armor/physical damage makeup between specs
severe helm
normalizing armor allows you to tune a spec like mage to be not shit against MM/outlaw but not be OP against assa or enhance or something
stiff mesa
it’s 100% okay for some specs to be better vs some specs
true, but it isnt that low key
severe helm
I think its fundamentally unfun to have matchups where youre inherently VERY disadvantaged due to some stupid core mechanic of the game when it came out 10 fucking years ago
theres just no reason for that
it makes it harder to balance
if they want mage to be weak vs mm
why not just make MM have a passive that says "does 15% more damage to mages"
and at least it would be tunable at that point
instead of just tied to armor values which are so archaic
jaunty osprey
they have that passive, it’s called armor types
severe helm
and now one patch MM gets a hero talent that makes them do more magic damage
whoops that nerfed them against mages
jaunty osprey
and mages have absorbs and alter and self heals
severe helm
like
why tie so many thigns together
wrhen you already have trouble balancing the game
jaunty osprey
that’s why they have less armor
severe helm
the devs do not have enough skill/time to fix all these issues
so removing things that add unecessary complexity would be healthy for the game
severe helm
theres just no incentive to keeping it
jaunty osprey
it’s already in place
severe helm
yeah spriest has a stupid passive that makes them take a ton less damage
BUT
that passive only procs if youre taking phsyical hits
so you get destroyed by double caster comps as spriest
jaunty osprey
yes exactly
severe helm
like weird interactions like that make the game so much more unbalanced than it should be
severe helm
its really j ust making their jobs harder
severe helm
and leading to unctrolled meta environmented
severe helm
so its just not good for the game
theres so many negative externalities to those systems
they need to do a better job of having tuning knobs that have only one outcome
instead of one knob that affects 300 different outcomes/situations
normalizing armor types would remove that and improve the ability for them to balance
I mean if you really believe what you say then I dont know why they wouldnt add in even MORE arbitrary interactions
why not make fire mages do extra damage to druids cuz theyre nature haha
why not mmake frost do extra damage to fire and destro locks
why not make hunters do more damge to feral cuz theyre hunting an animal
like
those interactions are bad
thats why they dont add more
they keeep the old ones cuz theyre legacy things
but theyre definitely not good for the game in any regard
luckily theres verrrry few specs that do pure phsyical damage nowadays
most of the balance in favor of mages in those situations comes from kiting
thats why hunters have always been the bane of mages existence cuz the only ranged physical damage spec
no one likes feeling like the odds are inherently stacked against them before the match even starts
jaunty osprey
I mean
severe helm
some amount of counter comp should exist thats a little healthy
but to the degree of MM into mage is not fun
jaunty osprey
Evokers and paladins counter assa rogue straight up
candid tide
Which class is the bane of hunters
jaunty osprey
like
every spec in the game
has another spec
that counters them
or the odds are against them
out of the gate
severe helm
yeah but theres healthy levels of it
candid tide
Rog has no counters at the top
severe helm
MM into mage isnt and has never been healthy
severe helm
Rog has no counters at the top
assa has counters
tribal badger
idk if id say any class is a counter to hunter so much as hunter isnt super strong into any class but mage it feels like
severe helm
trading a defensive for an offensive isnt that big a deal
candid tide
assa has counters
Assa dies to air
jaunty osprey
a mage has so many barriers and alters and displacement healing
severe helm
but having a spec that does 30% extra damage to you cuz of your armor type not accounting for a ranged physical spec is kinda bad
jaunty osprey
it isnt auto loss mage v hunter
severe helm
im not saying to remove every single situation where one ability is good against another ability
im also not saying to remove all situations where one spec feels strong into another spec
I just think the degree to which mage is weak to hunter is beyond a healthy point
and the other negatives of armor types like spriest into caster cleave also arent great
any time they try to "solve" armor type issues with some other kiting/passive/tuning they end up causing more problems
so get to the root of the damn issue and remove armor types and balance accordingly haha
lapis flare
BM is a little strong rn but overall there needs to be couters to mages
And frost auto-slows need to be removed
severe helm
the auto root that has no DR is def toxic
but mobility is its own can of worms Im not even gona touch rn
jaunty osprey
dont get me wrong, i played mage and got glad on it every season that i played it
i laugh when i play mages vs warriors, monks, rogues, rets
they have 0 uptime
It’s just some classes counters others
it’s fine
candid tide
All depends on players skill
lapis flare
For assa when are you all pressing ur first DM in SS. I'm not playing kings. I try to get a trinket in the opener and then bomb the next full kidney with DM.
lapis flare
I've been playing rogue for about 2 weeks after healing for the past decade and it's fun I got to 2k and now I fear frost and bm
It's so hard to get uptime on them
I feel like I hard counter most melee and spriest
severe helm
you playing assa im guessing?
severe helm
yeah assa is v strong into melee cuz stacking benefits it a lot
get to just crank damage
lapis flare
I try to always go ranged if it's ranged/melee to drag the melee on top but sometimes my partner ignores my pings and tries to 2v2 with a hunter pveing him in the background
its very frustrating
jaunty osprey
All depends on players skill
Ya and luckily the rated modes arent 1v1
So it relies on coordination from teammates
candid tide
Ya and luckily the rated modes arent 1v1
So it relies on coordination from team...
Play with the mindset to support ur mates optimally
sour coral
wasnt there a 1v1 bracket?
lapis flare
I think the thing I am best at having been a healer main is surviving. I watch my healers CDs and stop CC on the healer, actually use my defensives. I feel like that alone gets you 1800
It's insane how many people just don't pop a defensive
candid tide
wasnt there a 1v1 bracket?
There was in cata i can recall
sour coral
Ah no Ijust had a different visual on what solo shuffle was lol
severe helm
this dude has never played into destro frost mage clearly
nothing feels worse as assa than having 3 enemy players stand 40 yards apart and just tunnel damage into you
candid tide
Sub rog is too versatile when its good
dark stump
does blitz rbg give more conq/honor than ss ?
severe helm
Sub rog is too versatile when its good
subs super hard to balance
either people think its F tier or its S+++ tier
severe helm
idk to me it feels like rogues hardest counter is sub rogue
truuuuu
dev frost dk also feels like a counter when its good
esp as outlaw
you just cant kill them before they get enough goes and you run out of cds and they 1 shot your whole team
jaunty osprey
Sin rogues biggest counters are other rogue specs and sin rogues
candid tide
subs super hard to balance
Its a class thats too op in the hands of skilled people
severe helm
well its a spec that does all its damage in a 6 second window and doesnt get punished at all for running away and doing literally no damage in between goes
the latter part I think is a big component to why its op
it can play absurdly defensive
and it doesnt hurt hem at all
its very broken
candid tide
Thats a accurate take on it
severe helm
theres no other spec in the game like that I think
everyone knows how hard it is to kill sub rogue
candid tide
And is the best at stopping peoples goes
safe pelican
does blitz rbg give more conq/honor than ss ?
No
No
& No
Shit is slowwwww play 2s or farm honor in epic bgs if alliance
severe helm
doing the dailies seems like the quickest way for honor
do a quick skirm
quick 2s/3s
the weekly]
if youre a healer SS is insanely fast conq
the bonus they give is pretty massive
bte average dam into plate classes lol
safe pelican
So to you higher rated blitz players are you telling i really have to win 15-20 games straight to reallly PUSH in blitz ?
That is absurd in an 8v8 structure this is pure luck imo am i wrong like ?
How do i keep the tide in my favor for 15-20 games and win without a single loss
spring bough
By being the luck
safe pelican
spring bough
Just do what you can to get points on the board it all adds up
Cap a flag if u can run one back. Steal a base. Grab an orb rack up some kills
kind parcel
whats the easiest way to target people who dont have your dots on them? is there a way to quickly swap between such targets without cycling through everyone using tab for example?
or manually clicking if there is like 40 targets there on top of each other
potent pivot
whats the easiest way to target people who dont have your dots on them? is there...
the best way is to keybind target arena 1/2/3
kind parcel
yes but im talking about battlegrounds where u can potentially have 15-40 people on top of each other moving fast so I cant easily click on the ones that dont have dots
is there a way to auto target the ones that dont have them
candid tide
Arena123 plus insane human reaction clicking like pros do
potent pivot
yes but im talking about battlegrounds where u can potentially have 15-40 people...
for BGs you're cooked
you gotta click
candid tide
Bg is a dot paradise for lock
severe helm
So to you higher rated blitz players are you telling i really have to win 15-20 ...
haha
more like 40
if youre talking about cr
if youre talking about mmr you can get that up super fast
you get like 100 mmr per win in blitz its insane
severe helm
yes but im talking about battlegrounds where u can potentially have 15-40 people...
best thing you can do is configure your nameplates better
stacking nameplates can help and adjusting the settings/using a nameplate addon to control which buffs display, how close they can stack, etc is very helpful
kind parcel
thx guys
safe pelican
if youre talking about cr
Nah I’m talking about the cr lmao I’ve been playing at 2k+ MMR but I’m just bout to crest 1.6k like wtf
kind parcel
if anyone has specific examples please send me DMs
safe pelican
And i still get 13 rating for a win
So dumb
Ngl a lot of my not pushing was not knowing how to properly sap into blind cap
I held shrine down for cap from a pally frost mage and shaman after i sap capped the mage rogue tings
severe helm
Nah I’m talking about the cr lmao I’ve been playing at 2k+ MMR but I’m just bout...
Yeah I mean max you can get cr per win is 24
you should be getting more than 13 for a win though with your mmr 400 above your cr
steel scarab
@potent pivot remember the other day when I had that memory leak and my pc froze in the 3rd round of a solo shuffle? Just checked my rating today, I went from 1960 to ~1700 lol
Pretty harsh leaver penalty, especially for someone who has never left a game before and certainly didn't do it intentionally. That said, the good news is I clawed my way back to 1950 in 3 matches
potent pivot
dope
long shore
Why do people leave BG Blitz and risk losing 200 rating ?
I mean the match is going to be over in less than 8mins while rage quit out and ruin the game for yourself lol
kind parcel
Can someone explain how you sap people when you're in combat?
Do you somehow detect an enemy who is out of combat then target them and sap
Or do you use arena 123 sap macro for example
Assassin needs to vanish or shadow eld to do it right since u have to be in stealth to sap whilst sub can SD right?
potent pivot
Can someone explain how you sap people when you're in combat?
Do you somehow de...
You sap if they drop combat
You have to meld->stealth and no there’s no need for sap1/2/3 macros
severe helm
<@629463378250956810> remember the other day when I had that memory leak and my ...
the dc penalties suck but its an unfortunate side effect to catch all possible leavers
cuz if you could do it without losing points people would absolutely unplug their pcs haha
severe helm
Why do people leave BG Blitz and risk losing 200 rating ?
some people just wild like that haha
potent pivot
the dc penalties suck but its an unfortunate side effect to catch all possible l...
As much as I hate them I wish they’d get anti cheat
It’s probably not even possible for an anti cheat to mesh with wow or something
potent pivot
But man it’d be nice
potent pivot
There’s kick bots, bots that play the entire game for you, lots of bots that farm gold
But yes I feel like there’s be a way to detect leavers
potent pivot
But shutting off your router would probably get around any DC protection or something
severe helm
what im surprised by is how I dont hear about it being a problem in PvE
seems like the perfect environment for that
potent pivot
I wouldn’t be surprised if there is pve bots
That are just kept extremely hush hush
severe helm
yeah true
potent pivot
Can you imagine the amount of money you could rake in from boosting bots
But maybe blizz is actually just good at banning it idk
It doesn’t make sense for there to be full functioning pvp bots and not pve bots
The programmers would also have to do an insane amount of work though
Every season
potent pivot
Might not be worth the time investment compared to just programming gold farmers
severe helm
oh true yeah
people will happily pay money to get higher rating in pvp
might not be as tru ein pve for wahtever reason
potent pivot
pvp bots yeah are totally insane
Funnily enough I haven’t seen any full auto play pvp bots for retail
Mostly classic
I’ve seen retail bots that cast dps rotation and auto kick, but they don’t move or CC for you
severe helm
Funnily enough I haven’t seen any full auto play pvp bots for retail
ven did a whole seriers on it
potent pivot
They have ground overlays that show you your attack range as well
severe helm
he got some inside videos of the ad videos showing how the bot behaves
it does literally everything
theyre some leaked promo stuff
potent pivot
Oh I watched those
severe helm
they were fully autonomous
potent pivot
Even CC?
potent pivot
Been a while since I watched it
potent pivot
That’s fucked
severe helm
that it was demod
which is impressive
would never have htought of mage
fire I think
potent pivot
I wonder how many bots we play against
severe helm
good question
potent pivot
I’ve heard kick botters are really prevalent in eu
severe helm
Yeah for a while it was just a script/macro
that was around for over a decade apaprently
potent pivot
Ye ik
severe helm
one of hte best kept secrets of pvp from what I hear
potent pivot
Bicmex whistle blew that shit
severe helm
yeye
so glad it got done
then a TON of bans when out when blizz found a way to detect the script use
like holy shit
even on NA
potent pivot
Yeah
severe helm
yeah thats kinda true
is that just cuz less carries?
or some other hidden thing you think
potent pivot
Well carries are still ok to do
It was from win trading, botting, and piloting
Carries and pilots are still a huge problem
Carries are kinda w/e really
But it’s wild how much piloting still goes on, because if done well it’s basically impossible to detect without some kind of anti cheat
tame wolf
what the general basic opener for assa? CS, garrote/rupture, shiv, envenom? obviously its all situational, but just the typical run of the mill rotation on a setup. Trying to get use to assassination and get proper keybinds
potent pivot
what the general basic opener for assa? CS, garrote/rupture, shiv, envenom? obvi...
There’s not much of a “set up” just try to upkeep bleeds on as many targets as possible, use CC well etc
obsidian pulsar
guys with outlaw should fatebound coin flip dmg my nr.1?
outer sky
guys with outlaw should fatebound coin flip dmg my nr.1?
its not entirely abnormal for it to be
it probably shouldnt be every single game
and it shouldnt be by a huge margin when it is
but it being #1-#3 is common
languid ravine
That is absurd in an 8v8 structure this is pure luck imo am i wrong like ?
correct
long shore
hi guys, hitting 2100 are t here any rewards for pvp?
languid ravine
I think 2100 is Cloak transmog for your back slot
grave basin
2100 is also for elite weapon mogs
Although imo this season has some turbo ass weapon mogs
potent pivot
Although imo this season has some turbo ass weapon mogs
The daggers/swords are pretty sick imo
safe pelican
Turbo ass is a diabolical combination of words 😂
orchid plinth
I like the weapons! I am not a big fan of red so the white shade is a nice change for me.
gusty hedge
I like when team agrees to a plan (Battleground blitz) & once match starts the plan goes out the window & they forgot chat exist when inc calling 
languid ravine
I like the Spear and 2H-Axe but the rest is mehhhhhh
vocal ginkgo
Why is outlaw suddenly “S-tier” in all pvp tier lists? Haha
Has anything changed? Wasn’t aware of any changes
potent pivot
Why is outlaw suddenly “S-tier” in all pvp tier lists? Haha
Has anything change...
People overhyping it
Ignore tier lists man
They’re the biggest waste of your time
Easy terrible content
sour coral
I wouldnt call it s tier but its very fun to play.
I am on the fence of dropping it to learn sub but I mostly do solo play/bgs so I think outlaws my best bet
historically I think Sub might be the better dueler? I find myself in more 1v1s lately so I might play to those strengths
long shore
The daggers/swords are pretty sick imo
Where can we get these transmorgs upon hitting 2100?
potent pivot
vendor in pvp area of the city
long shore
All I see is the guy selling conquest gear
The guy selling honor gear
The guy selling bloody tokens gear
And the guy selling the vicious bloodstones and crafting recipes
There a transmorgs vendor ?
potent pivot
There a transmorgs vendor ?
keep looking
orchid plinth
There a transmorgs vendor ?
It's on the opposite side of the whole PvP plaza or whatever you call it. The building between the PvP dummies.
sour coral
Notrickz am i better off doing sub or outlaw for BGs and yolo solo stuff
potent pivot
Notrickz am i better off doing sub or outlaw for BGs and yolo solo stuff
just play what you prefer to play imo
hidden dome
I now had 3 bgs on my priest in a row where people either left right at the start or just went afk the whole game
Low rated bgs are hell
I wish they made it so you start at 1.4 rating if you achieved 2k on an alt
to skip all those absolute clowns in the lower brackets
I wouldn't mind the occasional forced loss either, if the queue wasn't 20+ minutes each time
Blitz has to be the only competitve game I ever played where games actually get easier once you get higher rating. Crazy.
long shore
It's on the opposite side of the whole PvP plaza or whatever you call it. The bu...
tyyy i found it!
sour coral
hah running away from a ret pally blasting him with gun is reason enough to stick to outlaw
that was fun
vocal ginkgo
I wouldnt call it s tier but its very fun to play.
I am on the fence of dropping...
Hmmm I mostly do solo content and rbgs with my friends but the thing with outlaw is that I haven’t been able to find updated guides or anything at all
I already know how to play assassination and my rogue is 1800+ (not a big deal I know lol) but I really have no idea how to play outlaw
Wanna try it out though because it looks fun and also wanna be an absolute menace in flag maps
vocal ginkgo
Can you teach me the ways of the outlaw?
outer sky
Anyone know if it's possile to get heraldries from those conquest boxes you can send to your alts?
spring bough
Anyone know if it's possile to get heraldries from those conquest boxes you can ...
Not sure haven’t got any yet from them just gear
outer sky
@jaunty osprey What PvP talents would you play into this? I feel like bomb, veil, and disarm are all mandatory here but that leaves no room for hemo which you said is always mandatory
proven field
laughs in dwarvish finally
outer sky
*laughs in dwarvish finally*
idk even as a dwarf, being able to remove feral bleeds twice rather than just once every 2m would still be really good
outer sky
Not sure haven’t got any yet from them just gear
Hey can I pick your outlaw brain?
jaunty osprey
<@113813700237852677> What PvP talents would you play into this? I feel like bom...
who is your healer?
outer sky
who is your healer?
rsham
jaunty osprey
Anyway, it'd be bomb, veil and hemo
or
hemo veil and disarm
you never drop hemo
your wound will fall off sometimes but you still have bleeds on people
vocal ginkgo
@jaunty osprey after deathmark + bleeding everyone, what am I supposed to be doing apart from CC? Am I looking to restealth or kiting away if I’m the kill target?
I find myself playing as if I was a warrior sometimes and that never ends up well
jaunty osprey
<@113813700237852677> after deathmark + bleeding everyone, what am I supposed to...
depends on the comp you're facing really
if you have full bleeds up, you can just spam fan of knives and keep CT up and make sure everyone stays rotting
but if you have a good chance to go for a restealth and get improved garrotes out and cheapshot multiple targets
that's always a good option
vocal ginkgo
Awesome ty
jaunty osprey
but like if you JUST opened on people and everyone is still on FRESH drs, no real point in going for a restealth
safe pelican
*laughs in dwarvish finally*
** laughs at you in Nelf **
vocal ginkgo
Is there an outlaw @jaunty osprey here? 🤣🤣🤣
Just a few replies from the man and I went from never touching assassination to 1800+ in no time
proven field
** laughs at you in Nelf **
Leave me be I gotta win sometime, I’m like 3’ tall!
proven field
idk even as a dwarf, being able to remove feral bleeds twice rather than just on...
Yeah I’m just joking because finally my racial has a response to something
hardy prairie
so, deathstalker now is objectively better than trickster in pvp?
single targetting someone for sure is better but what about aoe? bcs trickster was amazing with nimble flurry
spring bough
Hey can I pick your outlaw brain?
Sure what you got
outer sky
Sure what you got
Do you play super charger or vigor?
spring bough
Do you play super charger or vigor?
Supercharger all the way. I gave up vigor when it came out. Took a day or so to get used to but the energy regen is still good with bones buffs and you get even more CDR especially with 10cp finishers
proven field
and you get killing sprees that hit for 200 million dmg and take 17 minutes; it's actually amazing
spring bough
Do you roll on cooldown?
Mostly yeah. Unless I have 5 buffs that includes the CDR buff. Then I probably try to keep that for some extra seconds instead of rerolling right away
But I’m usually rerolling the second bones is off CD
outer sky
Mostly yeah. Unless I have 5 buffs that includes the CDR buff. Then I probably t...
So if you're doing that, do you drop count the odds for greenskins and loaded dice for slight of hand? I feel like your should since rolling on CD means you're just going to be rolling away the cto and loaded dice buffs
spring bough
So if you're doing that, do you drop count the odds for greenskins and loaded di...
I still run CTO. It feels needed. I’ve tried dropping for greenskin but definitely feel more energy starved when I do that. I’ve actually been running loaded dice and sleight of hand. But I sometimes swap out loaded dice for something like dirty deeds or improved MG. Feel like sleight is better for the 15% chance for another buff since I’m rolling off the loaded dice extra buff pretty quickly
outer sky
So you don't play swift slasher?
severe helm
I still run CTO. It feels needed. I’ve tried dropping for greenskin but definite...
ive been dropping cto for gsw and dropping loaded for slight with my SC build
it feels amazing actually
if I run cto + loaded dice I dont play SC
non SC build def is more overall damage but the SC + GSW + sleight is much stronger goes
spring bough
Then how do you get slight
This what I usually run
severe helm
This what I usually run
sleight and loaded dice dont function well together
just drop loaded dice at that point
if youre playing SC
essentially sleight doesnt activate if loaded dice is active
spring bough
I usually drop loaded for dirty deeds or imp MG. Just depends on the day lol
It’s pretty nice not having energy cost to cheap when you cheap up a whole team lol
severe helm
heavy hitter is kinda strong
and longer range blind is reaaaaaally good
I think its troll to drop that honestly
were a cc/utility spec afterall
so loaded dice giving you maybe 1-2% more damage vs short cd/longer range blind is kind of a clear pick up
outer sky
So if RTB comes off CD during crackshot do you roll during crackshot or wait? Also what if you roll>vanish>between the eyes and then KS comes off CD so now you're in crackshot with a supercharge and KS is off CD so it would benefit from super charged. Do you use the supercharge proc to do a KS or hold KS until after crackshot and just not care about buffing it with super charger?
@spring bough
severe helm
So if RTB comes off CD during crackshot do you roll during crackshot or wait? Al...
never KS during crackshot
supercharger on bte is close to as good as supercharger on KS
cuz the extra cps increase ace proc chance
spring bough
So if RTB comes off CD during crackshot do you roll during crackshot or wait? Al...
I mostly play trickster for solo. And more fatebound for blitz. I do a diff rotation with trickster. I prio coup > KS so I can get maximum unseen blade procs off the KS. When I do fatebound I only KS outside of crackshot windows. I usually don’t reroll in a window either but that depends too
Was getting Milly BTE crits on plate as trickster the other day. Felt great
spring bough
So if RTB comes off CD during crackshot do you roll during crackshot or wait? Al...
If I were running trickster. I would probably be hitting KS in a crack window if I had supercharged combo points. Because that could be a 2.5mil plus finisher if it crits good
But that goes against all the guides even tho it works in practice in my experience
safe pelican
lol that supercharged KS goes Brrrrr idc what the stats say, I see people dying and that’s all the proof I need 😂
I miss hitting KS might need to roll some Pirate later off work soon 🥳
severe helm
I like having a button that does damage but I HAAAATE the teleporting
its so fucking obnoxious can they just keep the camera still and make my model teleport around like blade rush
jaunty osprey
ive been sitting afk
in isle of dorn on two accounts
getting 60 cq every 15 mins
proven field
farming chests?
safe pelican
its so fucking obnoxious can they just keep the camera still and make my model t...
Yea the teleporting does give you a mini epilepsy attack when it’s late at night
severe helm
getting 60 cq every 15 mins
from what?
proven field
gotta be chests that are respawning faster from weekly
jaunty osprey
already fully gear without any games played
waiting for someone to craft my ring
severe helm
240 conq an hour still would take like 20 hours to get all yourgear right?
jaunty osprey
well a mix of bloody token g ear too
severe helm
ah
jaunty osprey
from the supply crates
and sometimes if u fly into dornogal and back out, you hop shards and can get another crate instantly
proven field
I swear it's tied to PVP activity in the zone - if the weekly is in a zone the chests come sometimes every few mins
gleaming sentinel
Healer alt pretty slick at this pt in the season
languid ravine
but theres like 30 games in your steam library that you wanted to finish what about those mate
proven field
Classic Anniversary is out
Get out there and make a char, get up to about level 21 or so and then park it forever
but re-live those 2-3 VC runs and 1-2 WC runs
vocal ginkgo
When I get bored I try out a new spec/class
safe pelican
i havent been able to get any queues
Lmao that’s what you get for being #1 & #2 buddy who you gunna compete with #0 ??
You didn’t fully think this through 🤣🤣
mbn brother mbn , go krazy 🤝
jaunty osprey
D:
at least ima gonna stream this alt rogues games for fun
just so i have vods up when people ask what i do vs certain comps
no shot
my first lobby on alt rogue
is 300 mmr lower than me
lapis flare
What is easier to learn for bgb and some SS - outlaw or sub?
Seems like I could itemize for sub with just a few changes to my assa gear, but I feel like it's harder to play than outlaw
safe pelican
Assa is like training wheels rn for rogue
Outlaw is good for objective play style cause of quad hook
Sub is just sub , has duel as well and dance letting you cheap the entire team virtually, I would say the edge for sub rn would be in arenas and shuffle i don’t see how it would be better than assa which can team fight well enough on the dmg meter to actually get heals from the healer and outlaw with quad hook can change a game in seconds
Above is for BGB , SS i would still put assa as the easiest spec to play rn i don’t know how you could come to the conclusion that outlaw is easier rn with all The button bloat, maybe you naturally attract to that spec better and you should play it in that case 💯🤝
lapis flare
I agree assa is easy, I am looking to learn a second spec
safe pelican
I read your sentence wrong tbh I’m fried my bad but yea outlaw easier to play than sub I would say RN with the current tuning Outlaw is just intimidating because of the rotation once you get that down it’s cool and you get choices from all that button bloat that was so intimidating when you first started
exotic dove
I need to stop playing with an Rsham in 2s they cant keep me up as Assa
vocal ginkgo
I agree assa is easy, I am looking to learn a second spec
I am looking to learn outlaw too
sour coral
hrm maybe I should try assassination. I really dig outlaw and im okay at it but I wouldnt mind turnin off my brain a little bit at times
ill grind a few more bloody tokens and snag a seocnd agger to try it out ill come back with my findings later lol
it kills me sometimes seeing how ungabunga ret pallies can be
candid tide
dk makes me wanna quit the game
candid tide
howso? I thought it was dumpster tier
its depressingly useless, no wonder mes has been playing his alts all the time
sour coral
Ahhh thought you meant the opposite like itw as bothering ya to play against
candid tide
u can easily ignore dk in arena and just go full ham on other dps
sour coral
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/assassination/deathstalker/DAOFVVRFFQUVQmJBQCBENVUVVVEJQRFiQUBVEFVVUCFADgzzWgwYBgwko looks right.. right?
ill miss dragon tempered blades but I love mega shivs
jaunty osprey
yep
looks perfect
you can swap lingering darkness hero talent for symbolic if you want though
and cheat death instead of elusiveness UNLESS you're really good at pressing feint
molten hedge
Outlaw is insane with elusiveness bc you can farm back feint charges in about the time it takes for it to drop off lmaoo
vocal ginkgo
it kills me sometimes seeing how ungabunga ret pallies can be
What kills is that they’re a mid range spec now like wtf
Kiting them? Nahh
1m hammer on your head from steph curry range
sour coral
Right? im kinda jealous but I cant be a mechagnome pally so It'll never happen
I have ONE complaint about assassination
Garrote isnt obvious that I use it so sometimes i double tap it
but this is user error
steel scarab
and cheat death instead of elusiveness UNLESS you're really good at pressing fei...
I run Elusiveness
It is good, but unlike Cheat Death, it doesn't do anything unless you time it well
outer briar
Is there any real different between playing assa over sub of blitz?
Outside of how they both play, is sub that much more dominant?
sour coral
sub is notably a bit harder to play if memory serves. So wh atever you're better at
severe helm
is 300 mmr lower than me
my lobby mmr was 1280 for my first match
with 4 fucking paladins in it
two hpals 2 rets
severe helm
Is there any real different between playing assa over sub of blitz?
yeah sub has more base pressure/defense abilities
with duel and just the burst it has to kill someone in a stun if they trinket
but assa is better on maps like deephall ravine
but in general sub is better on every map compared to assa, only time assa is more value is a map where team fight matters a lot
sub is definitely a harder spec though in general so you might want to factor that in
outer briar
Fair. If I plan to only play 2s with a disc and BGB. I would assume assa is the friendlier option.
severe helm
It is good, but unlike Cheat Death, it doesn't do anything unless you time it we...
cheat death also does nothing a lot of the time hahahaha
severe helm
Fair. If I plan to only play 2s with a disc and BGB. I would assume assa is the ...
definitely
outer briar
Sub just seems, so rogue like haha but not sure how it plays in 2s
jaunty osprey
my lobby mmr was 1280 for my first match
i got unlucky and won too much and didnt skip
from 1500 to 1900
blessing and a curse
severe helm
wait wym
jaunty osprey
if you get to 1500 before 5 lobbies
severe helm
wtf is up with that
jaunty osprey
your placement games end
vocal ginkgo
but in general sub is better on every map compared to assa, only time assa is mo...
True
severe helm
ah I didnt even know how that worked
I feel like they tuned down the cr gains in shuffle compared to DF
cuz even if I 5-1 im getting like 30 cr
I remember it being a lot higher
and im still like 1700cr with 2.3-2.5mmr
blizz fucked up reaaaaaal bad with mmr this season
capping the other brackets to promote blitz was a big backfire
outer briar
capping the other brackets to promote blitz was a big backfire
Yea but they have to show how “successful” it is
severe helm
still less popular than shuffle despite how down the mmr is haha
blitz is a bit of a mess
deephall ravine still hsa the bug where you just dont get points for the cart like 25% of the time
sour coral
I mihgt try sub just to be safe lol
jaunty osprey
ah I didnt even know how that worked
ya
think of it like
2s/3s
placements up till a certain amount of games played OR rating threshhold
whichever u get first
severe helm
well 2s/3s is a static amount I thought
you can never get to the rating threshhold in the palcements
even if you 100% winrate
jaunty osprey
sorry didnt mean like
placements as in 2k mmr vs 1500
meant it like
+96 rating gain
per win
severe helm
well shuffle used to be able to gain tons of mmr even well past 2k
severe helm
in DF I was gaining 80 points a lobby at like 2300 cr
cuz my mmr was like 3k+
made it super fast
severe helm
this is painfully slow now
severe helm
huh wild I wonder why im seeing so different
jaunty osprey
yeah im getting some decent rating
when mmr is way higher than CR
5-1 +98
4-2 +78
3-3 +69
4-2 +89
outer briar
Is assa 2 or 4 set? Which tier slots do I want?
jaunty osprey
legs and shoulders if 2 set
legs shoulder helm chest if 4 set
both are good, small gain if you go 4 set, but less vers
outer briar
Is the survivability loss noticeable with less verse?
runic laurel
Imo over the course of 100 games you might win 1 extra cause you had 2% more vers and didn’t die, and you might lose 1 extra cause you had 2% too much vers and couldn’t kill
cunning kestrel
Is assassin not good in arena right now?
Takes forever to get bleeds going and they just burst you down
outer briar
Seems to be a good spec right now.
sour coral
I’m trying sub right now it’s pretty fun
candid tide
i made it on dk
candid tide
go gettem tiger
dark stump
yeeaaaah
quick question is the rogue the only class with interrupt or did i get into a ss with weird player?
hexed pollen
sour coral
Wonder how those sub buffs look for pvp
potent pivot
It was a pretty small buff to sustain damage
sour coral
I gotta read up more on it because trickster looks rather bursty
sour coral
It’s more fun than assassination that’s for sure I’ll keep playing around thanks 🙂
proven field
Ok pokeinheimer is making her climb - it's not much but it's honest work
see if I can crack up to 2k, wish me luck
glass hazel
how big is 2p for assa? worth losing stats from 639 piece? dont have second catalyst yet -_-
potent pivot
how big is 2p for assa? worth losing stats from 639 piece? dont have second cata...
depends on the pve ilvl
probably not worth if it's anything lower than like 630 something
glass hazel
626 yeah
sour coral
how do you get more catalyst stuff?
potent pivot
https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-huge-mistake-regrets-made-a-mistake-...
most tier sets are very unimpactful in pvp
you can prolly get rank 1 without any tier sets
sour coral
The sub one is kinda nice but yeah I get ya
potent pivot
sub mainly just runs 2 set
sour coral
yeah the two set looks potent
glass hazel
low cr blitz just clown fiesta 😦
potent pivot
but you can run 2 set without losing much as far as secondary stats go, so no reason not to run it really
sour coral
really? seems like it hits fairly hard is that still DFA?
glass hazel
in mines ppl fight far from carts, dont get it haha
sour coral
gleaming pawn
it's really going to depend on what the set bonuses are next season, but heavily considering just running no-set and getting more Mastery/Vers
potent pivot
yeah i mean that's always just gonna depend on the bonus
we go through this every season i hate it 
gleaming pawn
agreed
potent pivot
Just an arena pretty sure
They rarely add new pvp maps
The arena map looks weird too
Like no pillars
glass hazel
sounds not right every map has it, maybe they will change smth before release
potent pivot
Not every map
glass hazel
shadowlands one?
sour coral
Is that a new arena or return of brawlers club?
potent pivot
Some maps have very obscure LOS
Like the really old graveyard map
This new map looks pretty small and the only LOS looks like the fence I think?
Maybe they’ll throw something else in there who knows
potent pivot
Is that a new arena or return of brawlers club?
New arena
glass hazel
huttball yeah best bg ever
sour coral
whats the sap macro to unstealth other rogues? I forget
glass hazel
whats the sap macro to unstealth other rogues? I forget
#showtooltip Sap
/cleartarget
/targetenemyplayer
/cast [stance:1/3, harm, nodead] Sap
sour coral
danke
sour coral
huh is this one that only really works in arena? I was trying it out and clearly saw a rogue but it wouldnt work
sour coral
yeah its broken I think
glass hazel
hm i didnt test it recently ;x sorry usually you sap healer anyway
sour coral
one of my favorite things to do is to unstealth rogues in stormwind so its a fun macro when it works 😛
indigo hill
Requeue. That's what I do if it takes longer than 20 min.
severe helm
I got a pop eventually
wanton breach
huh is this one that only really works in arena? I was trying it out and clearly...
you can try spamming arena1/2/3 sap macros in arenas
wraith tangle
Guys, how do you play against fury warrs as assa? It seems impossile to win. I burn all of my defenses and yet, I am dead within 3 seconds.
safe pelican
jfc man this is so bad lol
Lmao brother at this point I’m queue for all game modes whatever pops I’m playing
Never gunna wait more than 15 minute for a match or ima do sum else while I wait
I queued blitz yesterday after work on outlaw rogue they said the queue would be 9 minutes or less…. i feel asleep at the desk queue popped after 15 minutes and woke me up …. * clicks leave queue and goes to sleep * 😂😂😂
That logging out trick that you guys told me about works I do it as soon as i go over the estimated queue time log out and log back in instantly should get a pop within 5 or so minutes usually such a shitty bug
Happy Thanksgiving btw you dirty filthy animals ☀️🦃 for those that do celebrate it.
indigo hill
Guys, how do you play against fury warrs as assa? It seems impossile to win. I b...
Dot and vanish. They can't heal much if they can't hit you.
proven field
sounds not right every map has it, maybe they will change smth before release
It might have interactive elements - rockets landing mid-map etc that create LOS areas. Way back in the day they had one with platforms that came up and down randomly. Of note is that map was universally hated
candid tide
every dk jumping on frost rn
safe pelican
i like the playstyle of frost and the animations i just couldnt figure out the roation udk takes 0 iq lol
finally out of the 1500 bracket on the multibox rogue XD
candid tide
gz its amazing feeling getting to 1600 with a class
safe pelican
Lol its only because it took me so many games but this season was my first time ever playing bgs so i had to learn alot gotta get to 1600 on the outlaw rogue before i queue assa again cant leave her behind wanna get to 2k on either or before i retire back to solo shuffle blitz is fun when everyone comes together as a team even if you lose
candid tide
ye blitz is sucha time waste when everybody is doing their own thing
proven field
well this late in season you will hit people queuing just for the hell of it, not doing anything but doing dmg because it's their 12th alt and random BGs are terrible
languid ravine
That logging out trick that you guys told me about works I do it as soon as i go...
just use Dalaran hearthstone and queue old LFR raid, queue continues but never pops
ah nevermind I thought you mean when you go afk
is there a bug with blitz queues?
spring bough
“Literally so so so bad” someone whispers me after a solo and it’s reportable. Games soft lmao
proven field
I get a PM weekly from randoms - I don't get it
spring bough
How is that an inappropriate communication what are these blizz bots even doing
Can’t even critique someone. Participation trophy world lmao
potent pivot
its 'toxic'
spring bough
He wasn’t wrong though I fked up a CC the game he sent me that lol
potent pivot
fucking up a cc in a shuffle? no wayyyy
spring bough
Bro went 1-5 he was just mad at the world lol
potent pivot
like that shit doesn't happen in every game, even in the r1 games
proven field
In general I think WoW PVPers overestimate their abilities and their contribution to wins (myself included!)
potent pivot
i have to track some DoTs just because people remove my DoTs with polys and blinds and shit
like certain surv dots that i can't even pandemic
spring bough
Adding “so bad” to the list of things never to type in game again
proven field
have you considered sarcasm as a vice
languid ravine
Bro went 1-5 he was just mad at the world lol
sometimes I get mad for going 3-3 xd
proven field
3-3 means maybe staying put (although usually doesnt); I get that
runic laurel
Is it soft to report that or are you a clown for whispering someone to flame them after a game? I’d report the person idc
molten hedge
Queues went horribly last night for me lmfao. Nothing felt fluid got a bunch of 2-4s and 3-3s
I noticed I get progressively worse the more I queue. I’ll take a few to warm up then get hot then fall. I should probably just stop while I’m ahead
languid ravine
sometimes I feel like my winrate goes up when I hide behind a pillar for half the game
on Fury warrior lmao
and when I make huge plays around my teammates it goes down somehow
trying to peel? round lost
spring bough
Is it soft to report that or are you a clown for whispering someone to flame the...
Both lmao
languid ravine
yall are wimps and snitches in cahoot with discord mod type people
(no offence discord mod type people)
(love yall)
runic laurel
Personally I think it’s good for the game to get rid of crybabies who want to dm someone after every lobby
potent pivot
i feel like some stuff is warranted, but it's an impossible line to draw, so they kinda have to just throw it all out
runic laurel
I just complain to my friends about bad players I don’t need to directly harass them and tell them I think they’re bad it accomplishes nothing. They’re not going to become better players cause I hurt their feelings and it doesn’t help me climb either
potent pivot
i don't fuck with anyone just because they're bad
runic laurel
Like people have the right to vent but they think the only way to accomplish that is by making someone feel worse than they do
potent pivot
but i insta report anyone i think is win trading