pvp

[vocal surge]

:3

[vocal surge]

made the healer quit

[blissful peak]

if i'm in stealth and looking to burst, does shadowblades > cheapshot > shadowdance + mainstat trinket + symbols > flagellation > rupture > sec tech >evis > etc make sense?

or is the sequencing not right there

[potent pivot]

you don't want to press blades too early

especially not before your first global, that's a waste

Premed makes your first generator max combo points anyway

[trail vortex]

blades also pulls u out of stealth

[potent pivot]

what

no it doesn't

[trail vortex]

eh i guess not

lol im an idiot, it was my blades macro that pulls me out of stealth

[potent pivot]

yep

your Badge

[trail vortex]

lolok

[potent pivot]

just another reason not to macro things

[trail vortex]

eh

i macro everything

to each their own

[potent pivot]

yeh it's just suboptimal

[trail vortex]

i mean it works for me

[potent pivot]

you just kinda end up wasting resources and other things that could be avoided when you macro stuff on sub

[trail vortex]

damn so u play with nothing macro'd together?

[jaunty osprey]

Can macro dance with badge

but no need to ever macro blades

[potent pivot]

wouldn't recommend it

you used to be able to macro symbols to badge, but now we have multiple charges and varying CD

[trail vortex]

do yall blades without dancing at times?

[jaunty osprey]

Didnt say symbols

Badge with dance is still fine

you wouldnt press badge outside of dance anyways

[potent pivot]

i know you didn't

but you'd auto press your badge even if you danced to cc

so it's kinda ehhh imo

[potent pivot]

sometimes you can to try and farm a dance back if you absolutely have to, but i would recommend against it especially playing flag

[hazy gust]

yoooooo sexy pvp people :3

is sin kinda gaming in pvp rn?

or still sub the goat

[potent pivot]

all 3 specs are good rn

[hazy gust]

juicy

thanks mister trickz

[hidden moth]

the amount of off gcd buffs u wanna press as sub

is weird ngl

maybe a "burst" macro that pops blades dance trinket tea and symbols but have access to all of those abilities by themselves?

[potent pivot]

it just adds an extra bind

you can, i just don't see it as optimal

learning how to weave the off GCDs in between your GCDs is more beneficial and lets you use them properly

[hidden moth]

but wouldnt u wanna pop all of them before u do ur big go of tech cheap vis cheap vis vis

[potent pivot]

naw

[hidden moth]

interesting

[peak shore]

Does anyone know if it's still BIS for 2 raid pieces? rather than going for the full set?

[hidden moth]

its what i see in the youtube guides on how to play it but there isnt that many out there'

[peak shore]

for sub rogue

[potent pivot]

they aren't raid pieces

but 2 is still fine

[peak shore]

Aye set mbmb

[potent pivot]

just making sure you aren't using the pve pieces

[peak shore]

👀

yes.. definatly not -0.0-

[potent pivot]

you can Catalyst conquest gear

for 639 pvp scaled tier set items

if you're using the pve version, you're prolly better off not using it at all

unless it's very high ilvl

[potent pivot]

there's a couple people who put the proper rotation in their vids instead of the big macro crap

[hidden moth]

any guide vids u rec?

[peak shore]

Yeah, my gear is all over the place atm,

[jaunty osprey]

if you’re not playing at a super high level, just watch palumor

for rogue rotations

and burst

[potent pivot]

for generalized openers nahj/palumor

[hidden moth]

i play sin at high level jsut dunno sub

[jaunty osprey]

If you want to ask a lot of questions, Nahj is really nice

and can explain why he does certain things

[peak shore]

I'm still learning, probs will switch to sin, but Sub atm just feels nice?#

[jaunty osprey]

Kalvish stream is also v good for sub

[peak shore]

Probably just prefering the way it opens and plays.

[jaunty osprey]

He streams a lot

sub is really good for 3s! Just not shuffle friendly since pugs stun randomly

24/7

[potent pivot]

just don't ask him for an opener

[jaunty osprey]

If you wanna ask questions, Nahj

See insane gameplay, Kalvish (dont ask shit)

Watch burst tutorials, Palumor

[potent pivot]

kalv is chill

[jaunty osprey]

the prodigy is all grown up now

[potent pivot]

but if you're just asking how to do an opener he'll just type "situational" in the chat

because they kinda are

[hidden moth]

best 3v3 comp for assa rn? just assa aff or rmp yeah?

[jaunty osprey]

spriest rogue

boomy rogue

aff rogue

[half kernel]

I get the sense 2 vanish is better than tea for high end blitz shenanigans, yea?

[jaunty osprey]

for assa

[potent pivot]

usually ye

[neat torrent]

does sub use black powder in pvp?

[trail vortex]

no

[potent pivot]

nope

[trail vortex]

even as sub, imo double vanish still the play

[potent pivot]

ofc

assa doesn't drop vanish for anything ever

sub drops it for arena now pretty much

[vocal surge]

Assa Assa Outlaw

[trail vortex]

also depending on the map, i'd try tea and deathstalker for orbs/carts and maybe ctf

[jaunty osprey]

@potent pivot

How much dam do I lose if I run

fan talent over extra cp

in sin tree

I know I used to play it

[potent pivot]

Well you lose a baseline 5% dam right

And you lose the added 11% dam on any 6/7cp finishers (or dot length obv)

[jaunty osprey]

Is it 11% per co

cp*

[potent pivot]

Ye

[jaunty osprey]

ah damn okay

[potent pivot]

I don’t think the Fan talent is worth anymore personally

[jaunty osprey]

Might be fine if you play alacrity deeper

esp vs melee

[potent pivot]

Ye maybe

[hidden moth]

when is conq uncaped. i get my last 639 item on tuesday but damn i just wanna craft daggers so i dont have these shitty crit ones

[potent pivot]

Supposedly week 10

[hidden moth]

what week is this

[jaunty osprey]

Week 11

Is when uncapped

Nov 19

https://www.wowhead.com/news/conquest-drops-increased-in-the-war-within-342758

What’s our cap at atm

I’m not home

[potent pivot]

This is currently week 8 of the season

[jaunty osprey]

Def not week 8

What’s our conq cap at

[potent pivot]

But of the expansion it’s week 10

[potent pivot]

It is

Season started sep 10

Conq is at 6k something iirc

[jaunty osprey]

Yeah so we’re at week 9

If season started sept 10

Just count better noob

[potent pivot]

Next reset would be w9 of season

[jaunty osprey]

no

u’re actually trolling

[potent pivot]

Brother

[jaunty osprey]

1 sept 10
2 sept 17
3 sept 24
4 oct 1
5 oct 8
6 oct 15
7 oct 22
8 oct 29

[potent pivot]

Nov 19 would be w10

[jaunty osprey]

What day is it

brother

9 nov 5

10 nov 12

Cap is at 6400 right now

https://www.wowhead.com/news/conquest-drops-increased-in-the-war-within-342758

Week 9 is 6400

[potent pivot]

Ok man

[hidden moth]

so not this tuesday but the one after i can farm out better stated daggers

[potent pivot]

Calm ur ass down

[jaunty osprey]

IT’S OKAY TO SAY THAT U’RE WRONG

INSTEAD OF DOUBLING DOWN

[jaunty osprey]

ya

Week 11 u can have fun

[potent pivot]

Sure

But I feel like it’s not okay to jump people

[hidden moth]

gd lol

healer was atop their demo lock and it was just oh gar silence ez lmfao

can u shroud in arena?

also how much longer u think we have in season

[stoic spruce]

@jaunty osprey @potent pivot yall should kiss

[potent pivot]

at least a couple months prob

[hidden moth]

oh cool

so 3v3 mmr should inflate a bit higher then

[potent pivot]

ye

the last week or two of the season will make it pop up some as well

[hidden moth]

ngl i wish there was a way to do like 75-25 secondary stat splits on gear

from crafting

bc i dont wanna drop all the vers from pvp dagger

[potent pivot]

i'm just happy we got as much customization on max ilvl crafted stuff as we do

has been a big improvement over past expansions

not perfect but it's nice

[hidden moth]

yeah that is trye

ill jsut say its nice not having to go do heroic ulduar gdkps or icc gdkps bc ur bis pvp gear is 4 set pvp gear with everything else being heroic raid loot with resil gems and enchants xD

[potent pivot]

this game is held together by duct tape and glue i swear

[hidden moth]

should i be running tricks pvp talent with a aff lock?

[potent pivot]

depends on what you face

[hidden moth]

hpal 2x bm hunter lol

[potent pivot]

sure

[hidden moth]

yeah we lost to the 50k pets

cc on a bm doesnt stop their damage outside of kill coms

im now thinking maybe i should have went with a few more high vers low master items off pvp vendor to make up for me losing a decent amount of vers on crafted daggers

[jolly sierra]

this fucker has a bike

[potent pivot]

ye quite a few eu ppl have em

ppl been doing giveaways for the codes

https://x.com/Whaazz/status/1855626053315641404

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[hidden moth]

self promo detected

jk

[jolly sierra]

trickz is whazz confirmed

[hidden moth]

i could see it

trickz is just his smurf discord

[jolly sierra]

ye lol

also

elite sets are already available from former seasons to buy from npcs

just got the 2k4 dagger from arsenal

in s1 df

got the hunt bow too

got the teebu dagger too

i can get those items too (the arsenals)

there are not elite to get from former seasons but legion it seems in arsenals

[spring bough]

34 minutes into a 10min avg Que timer……..

[potent pivot]

Someone made a video of getting 1800 on a BM hunter with 1 button

[jolly sierra]

X D

[jolly sierra]

@surreal barn what have u done

[potent pivot]

Same thing happened to me earlier, you might have to drop q and relog but if it’s blitz your mmr might just be too high for constant queues

I think once you get to around 2.9-3k mmr you can only get queues during peak hours

[potent pivot]

Huh

[jolly sierra]

for example if u wanna an elite from wod for transmog u cant

if u got 2k4 in DF with any char u can buy the elites

in the case of arsenals

i was unable to buy the elite tabard for my rog F even w the achiv in another char

[surreal barn]

lol

[jaunty osprey]

val passed me

and i had to queue it up

[safe pelican]

Still waiting on those lessons like

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

More blitz queues … it’s time

[potent pivot]

Are you a Gnome Sequence Enjoyer?

[surreal barn]

Nah

I know how to press dark arrow tho

Same thing

[potent pivot]

Apparently Magnusz made a BM hunter

And reached r1 range the same day he leveled it

[jaunty osprey]

ya

crazy

[jaunty osprey]

garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote garrote

[safe pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/writethatdown-gif-5313946

BM hunter is that insane?

i literraly have my MM hunter parked in the garage ill fw it this week

im lying outlaw takes too much focus finally winning some blitz games

[potent pivot]

BM has like 4 rotational spells

you can mindlessly spam buttons and solely pay attention to positioning/kiting/utility

a lot of the fotm BM hunters barely even press traps and hit like 2100

[jaunty osprey]

bm hunter is 1-2-3-4 on keyboard

and occassionally land a trap

notrickz 100% right

can confirm

[safe pelican]

crazy here i am on rogue pressing 190 buttons to get out of the bottom tier bgb bracket

[hidden moth]

not even 1234

kill comm barbshot black arrow

ez

[jolly sierra]

how tf spec design is so bad to do that lol

[potent pivot]

pretty sure it's designed that way purposely

they've said in the past that they keep specs like BM/DH easy

[hidden moth]

yeah its bc people complain about specs like outlaw rogue or UH dk for having hard rotations in pve

[jolly sierra]

tbh is dumb how they designed a very easy spec to do very good damage without effort

[hidden moth]

bms difficulty comes from, not letting barbed shots attack speed/crit/focus regen buff fall off, dont let kill cleave fall off, and then just dont let kill comm cap charges

[jolly sierra]

but other specs which requires inhuman coordination and base skills sometimes barely do shit

[hidden moth]

which u used to have to barbed shot and focus starve urself a bit beforee rework bc u cant just send barbed shot as u only had a slight chance to reset its cd and its cd was longewr than the buff duration.

[halcyon timber]

Have to keep them happy or they scream like 5 year olds in a chuck e cheese

[hidden moth]

now u still have the 20% chance on autoshot crit to resetbarb shot cd. bwrath givers 2 charges barb shot, call of the wild which was a 3 min cd is now a 2 min cd and it makes u summon a pet from stables every 4 seconds for 20 seconds and when its summoned u get 50% cdr on barbed shot. so 6 50% cdr on barbshot for stomp spam ez focus gen and hella crit.

oh and it gets more resets in pack leader but for the sake of argument not much in dark ranger. but bm also gets AOE BLACK ARROW/KILLSHOT

between ur 2 pets ur random spawn direbeast ur 20 sec cd direbeast ur free summon of haiti/fenryr on every 3rd direbeast cast (proc or actual press) and call the wild being a 2 min that just goes ham. ur pmuch gonna have 50% increased killshot dam+ all the black arrow buff bs thats in hero talents

its legit, is black arrow castable, send if not send kill com, if not send barbshot

so piss poor ez and dumb. oh and they can do their entire rotation while moving

[jolly sierra]

fkn hunters

[hidden moth]

huntedr wasnt all bad

[jolly sierra]

basically they just press random buttons to do their stuff then?

[hidden moth]

bm yeah

[jolly sierra]

everything sounds very automatic and proc consistent

[hidden moth]

mm its more calculated

oh it is

[jolly sierra]

that is sad xdd

[hidden moth]

now take that stupid ez rotation and add, scatter, freeze trap, a slow trap that roots, a typoon type ability. a wingbuffet/ tailsweep trap, a stun, a aoe stun, a silence, a range interupt, invis, and 2 shield walls that heal, a strong self heal+hot that gives a wall. and deterence and call it a day

[dim oriole]

On that note, what is the best way to deal with BM? I am finding a lot of mage/BM lobbies in shuffle which are quite painful to deal with

[jaunty osprey]

forgot about random feign deaths, 1234 confirmed

[hidden moth]

oh yeah and smeld

[hidden moth]

press crimson tempest and watch them bleed out in turtle

we dont care if ct pads on pets. it being on pets makes it hit the hunter 2x harder

@potent pivot link me the bm 1 button rotation vid plz

[halcyon timber]

As God intended

[jolly sierra]

u can disarm them in wrath tho

[hidden moth]

lol

disarm doesnt stop them

[jolly sierra]

most of the dmg is the black arrow, right?

[hidden moth]

they can still killcom

while disarmed

and killcom outside of barrow is their main dam

well on button press dam, the zoo is still gonna get ya

[jolly sierra]

tbh i was analyzing their dmg sources

[halcyon timber]

Wowhead comments from bms are always odd

[jolly sierra]

and the black arrow + barbed shots seems like their main dmg sources

so i think disarm can avoid make u being killed tho

[waxen meteor]

I run into two double BM in 3s lol

[dim oriole]

They are hard to pin down, feel like they just disengage or trap me whenever I get close

[jolly sierra]

shiv them

[dim oriole]

I do

[hidden moth]

same, they ate my aff lock alive

[jolly sierra]

after disengage

[waxen meteor]

the comp doesn't seem to be good, but the dmg is surely there lol

[dim oriole]

Still seem very slippery

[jolly sierra]

not before

[hidden moth]

scene straigt from jusassic park

[jolly sierra]

are u in assa?

[halcyon timber]

XD

[dim oriole]

Maybe it was combo of mage + BM that made it hell

Yea sin

[waxen meteor]

I kinda just went healer

[jolly sierra]

use poisoned knife a lot

[dim oriole]

1 on their own is ok

[waxen meteor]

anyway those pets just add CT dmg

[jolly sierra]

u can charge till 5 points and step kidney

when u are in step range

[dim oriole]

Also does boomie have like infinite disarms?

[hidden moth]

boomkins can disarm?

lol

[jolly sierra]

ye

they can

[waxen meteor]

yeah

[halcyon timber]

Yeh fairy swarm

Or whatever

[hidden moth]

last spec i thought would disarm someone

[dim oriole]

I dunno what it was, I had boomie/mage/monk and I felt I was disarmed 50% of the time

[hidden moth]

monk and boomie can disarm

[waxen meteor]

i feel mage/lock/priest still one of hardest to deal with

i did like 15 games of rogue/sp/hpal tonight

[jolly sierra]

most i found when i was playing were BMs feral and mages

[waxen meteor]

i think each game has at least 1bm or 1mage

[jolly sierra]

maybe feral lobbies were the easiest

because they were shut down very easily after the stun

and i cloaked the berserk

hardest were one with a BM and any kind of warrior

[waxen meteor]

yestreday i played rogue/bm/priest, for fun, seems bad comp, but i think i literally won like 3-4 games by out dmg healing

[jolly sierra]

because the warriors always fucked me the stuns and in the opposite side they just ravaged me while the BM was freecasting

[hidden moth]

what sucks is the hunter 1800 set looks mid af dunno why so many fotm kids are on it

[jolly sierra]

because they were casted away from higher lobbies

[potent pivot]

if something is powerful and especially easy as fuck, people will flock to it

[hidden moth]

true

[jolly sierra]

but tbh

feral is another fotm bait

[hidden moth]

thats why i play rogue

[potent pivot]

it happens every season

[waxen meteor]

tbh you can hardly enjoy bm

[jolly sierra]

ive found a lot of very bad ferals

in my matches

[waxen meteor]

i think you will get some easy wins, get 1800 rating or sth

then you will stop touching it

or if you are a pro

[potent pivot]

that's why i've been enjoying it tbh

[jolly sierra]

just got 1950 today for the illussion after a 5-1

[potent pivot]

feral actually requires some skill to do well

[jolly sierra]

and got messed cuz the warr was a dumbass

[halcyon timber]

N64 controller class

[potent pivot]

it's no rogue, but it's aight

[jolly sierra]

else would be a 6-0

[waxen meteor]

i kinda struggle in form change

[jolly sierra]

ye, it does

but is funny

because almost in all lobbies i had

feral was the kill target

and sucessfully he was

XD

[waxen meteor]

i think feral has to open with their 'cs'?

[potent pivot]

ye feral can be a bit squishy but they have healing amp

[waxen meteor]

or they can open with their 'ambush'

[halcyon timber]

He had convoke and rake stun filled on 2 bars

[potent pivot]

naw, they can use their kick as a gap closer

they open with Rake

similar to garrote, it's a bleed, but it's a stun from stealth, not a silence

[waxen meteor]

yeah but they have a amush way to open too?

cause lots of times, i am not sure what i should open with, when i got feral on my side

[jolly sierra]

the ones i found almost always opens w a stun

[waxen meteor]

it looks in lots of cases i don't need to cs

[hidden moth]

oh tricks i talked to nahj and he said just make a shadowblade macro for symbols etc. and that he doesnt even run tea xD

[potent pivot]

ye he will tell average players to do it

but it's still suboptimal

[jolly sierra]

better to receive advice here

[potent pivot]

some people run Tea, some people run double vanish

[jolly sierra]

usually when i got some advice i ask both ivanrah or zeiss, their tips were very sucessful for my games tbh

[golden wind]

hey all new here but wanted to ask which spec might be easiest to use. Really trying to get into PvP

[jolly sierra]

zeiss told me to try ER to get duelist in DF s4 and got it without issues after that

ivanrah told me to use supercharger w KB to play easily for my lack of time and it worked

[potent pivot]

it's really subjective/personal preference, but most people will say assa is easier to start off with

[jolly sierra]

its a little redundant imo to get advice outside when u already have good players here

[potent pivot]

damn ivan gettin the credit for the build i came up with

[jolly sierra]

dw, the thing did the most was his explanation rather than the build itself

[potent pivot]

ivan a goat tho

[jolly sierra]

would be wasted if he just said "try this" and refused to realize after

so gj w that

but in summary, its better to ask here

[potent pivot]

do you guys use anything to announce war crates

or just the default shit in game

[hidden moth]

default

[jolly sierra]

default

[potent pivot]

i have all the default shit turned off because it's annoying

but i don't see the one thing i want to which is the crate announcement

[jolly sierra]

i just use weakauras outside

i even dont use tomtom or shit like that

so if he announces i go for it

period

[hidden moth]

idk who made this art but the thumbnail went hard

[jolly sierra]

ye lol

we should commission him

[safe pelican]

wow

just lost a blitz game by one cap and i had the cap but i was 1 second late game is trashhh how do i turn on the timers for the bases

[hidden moth]

battlegroundenemies aka bge

or use dbm pvp timers

no timer in the basegame for this

[hidden moth]

ik its for a skillcapped vid. the art does seem a little ai but thats just the lighting i think

[potent pivot]

i got a crate WA

and already snagged one

would be nice if people made groups and sat each zone

like in DF s1

[jolly sierra]

ah, welp

[jolly sierra]

i recalled that

sadly doesnt always works, because ppl usually come alone or both with 3+ ppl

[potent pivot]

got another pvp gear recipe as well

[jaunty osprey]

OOOOOO

which crate

supply crate or socket

[potent pivot]

supply

don't think a WA exists for the socket chest

[jaunty osprey]

ahh

[potent pivot]

you could probably make one, but it'd only go off if you were in the zone it spawns in

[jolly sierra]

which one is the socket chest and why just now i know bout it

[jaunty osprey]

supply chest is every 15 mins, i just afk outside dornagal

and always get

or in azj kahet

[potent pivot]

unbound spoils

it spawns at set times

been a thing since w1

[potent pivot]

ye the zone is just randomized to an extent

i'll usually afk in a zone as well

[jolly sierra]

i'll watch it later

[potent pivot]

if you search it on wowhead, it has the spawn points

and there's info about spawn times in the comments etc

[hidden moth]

socket chest?

[jolly sierra]

its random spawn

xd

[potent pivot]

naw

it spawns at set times

[jolly sierra]

are u sure, the comments said the opposite

xd

[potent pivot]

ye there's a chest that spawns in FFA areas that drops socket setting items

[hidden moth]

there is ffa arenas?

[potent pivot]

it spawns in 1 of the 4 zones randomly. at set times.

[hidden moth]

or are those just the pvp wq zones

[potent pivot]

free for all areas

[jolly sierra]

do u have the schedule?

[hidden moth]

i read every 6 hours

[proven field]

BGB is the most rage-inducing thing in this game lol

people just refuse to listen to strats, just plain throw games on purpose over and over - lord get me out of this 1600 nightmare

[potent pivot]

it used to be 11AM,5PM,11PM,5AM EST but i think since day light savings it changed to 10AM,4PM,10PM,4AM EST

was talking with ivan about it earlier today

[hidden moth]

what addon is nahj using that puts the cc on the enemy target frame

[potent pivot]

bigdebuffs?

[jolly sierra]

gotcha

[hidden moth]

i legit thought htat let u make ur debuffs/buffs bigger on unit frames lol

[potent pivot]

nah it replaces the character portrait with actual information

it can do other stuff too

[potent pivot]

the kidney icon in the portrait and to the right of the nameplate are from bigdebuffs

[winter seal]

I did my first shuffle and didn't go 0-6 the season isn't over

[proven field]

Does authority of the depths stack across 2 enchants?

[potent pivot]

All weapon enchants can double up

[proven field]

dmg output or just proc?

[potent pivot]

The effect

So like 2x radiant does more damage and gives more agi than 1

2x depths just does more damage than 1

Proc rates don’t change iirc

[proven field]

ah ok so if I go depths I want to stack 2

so the dot is bigger

[potent pivot]

Whatever weapon enchant you use, you always use 2 of said enchant

You’ll rarely use 1x1 especially in pvp

[sour coral]

Whats the difference between outlaw and sin in pvp?

[hidden moth]

gotcha

thx tricks

[hidden moth]

outlaw needs hella uptime and high apm so u can use cds decently often sin is just dot u dot u dot u okay need to re dot u

[sour coral]

interesting

Seems like outlaw might be more fun

[hidden moth]

idr but i htink each enchant has its own icd so 2x radiance is double the ppm

yes and no

bc if u dont get uptime

enjoy ur 45 second rtb and ur 3 min ar lol

sin is what i play but while its about multi dotitng u get aoe silences which is nice

opener 12 seconds of gar silence, 1 vanish another 12 seconds 2 vanish another 12 smeld stealth another 12 and ofc if u get a re or vanish charge off cd

[thick slate]

Lads which rogue spec is the absolute menace for duels and cant lose to any class?

[hidden moth]

LOL

depends

assa counters sub meanwhile sub bursts alot of specs but gg if ur a rogue trying to 1v1 a ret

[thick slate]

wdym ? rets stomp rogues?

[safe pelican]

Blitz so fucking trash man

Hard stuck in this bracket and cannot escape literally the worst healers to grace the game queueing into blitz people that have no idea how to even cap a flag

[dim oriole]

There are plenty of decent ones, they just get put on the other team

[hidden moth]

gg if ur a rogue trying to 1v1 a ret

meaning u get stomped

[hidden moth]

u say this and then im having to solo fc as disc bc 6 dps and the other healers dont want to fc

[safe pelican]

bro the games a such a coin flip its ridiculous

you should have to play 50-100 regular unrated bgs before you can play rated

[hidden moth]

or just require honor level 20 or sum

would be aids to have to do 50 bgs on every one of ur alts u want 1800 set on

[dim oriole]

Damn, I just hit honor level 20 yesterday

At the same time as hitting 1950 in SS

[hidden moth]

i mean overwatch lol valorant ALL have systems like that where u have to be account lvl x before queing rated

[dim oriole]

It would probably only annoy people, I doubt it will have large impact on the outcome because just doing BGs doesn't necessarily teach you how to win them

[hidden moth]

i feel like that would be a blizz thing

if they idk went into the bg tab and where u select bg or specific bg it had a list of rules

Flag in both bases cap the flag where your flag stands to earn a point. 3 points to win. if your flag is not at its spawn then you may not capture the flag.

bases take 60 seconds to cap holding multipul bases gives u more points per 3 seconds. 1 base 1 point 2 base 2 point 3 base 5 point etc

[dim oriole]

They could definitely do better tutorials, even just use the adventure guide for dungeons/raids to summarize what to do in bgs

[hidden moth]

but they dont have anything for this and its left for people to go youtube shit and then get disheartened when they see "bg blitz guide to the maps" and see 1.5 hour video by flarkness or ace or whoever

[hidden moth]

exactly just put it in adventure guide

[peak kernel]

Hi, anyone figured out a good counter to MW FCs? It's so annoying if you get two in a BGB match.

[hidden moth]

HAHAHAAHA

it used to be worse

they had a pvp talent that gave them 4 chi torpedos in a row not the 2 they have now

but uuuuhhh

use bge to watch where they are and dont even let them get through mid to your base

legit ive won so many bgb games from just stalking the mw and killing him and when he ressed sitting in the gy and doing sap stun blind chains

[stoic spruce]

So like

Can we stop pretending crackshot is fun or is it too soon?

[vocal surge]

Get a pillar

Then it's easy 1v1 vs ret

[orchid plinth]

In Snupys 1v1 tournaments there has been pretty consistently Bicmex and WW in the finals I think.

Sure not all players are competing there but it's something.

[hidden moth]

wyn

bro

legit

u shoot more than a gd hunter

get the addon that makes ur pistol sound like the classic gun

and get like 5 up ur sleeve procs in a row during the window

bang bang bang bang bang

[orchid plinth]

I played a BM SP Demolock lobby yesterday as Sub. I am bad but I did not enjoy it.

[thick slate]

who won ?

[stoic spruce]

Nah crackshot blows

Get rooted and CCd during your go and youre left sinister striking outside of adr

Everyone talks about the highs but no one wants to admit how dreadful and unfun the lows are

You're actually not doing dmg

Bdk does more

[peak kernel]

I tried to do that with my DH without much success (but it might"ve been a skill/gear issue), but I figured that rogue may be better so I asked here. Is rogue good at stalking and killing them, or is there a better choice? Maybe DH?

[dim oriole]

Probably better, but I think a good MW you won't be stop very easily, they have too much to escape/heal you off

At least that is my experience

[hidden moth]

both are decent. on rogue ur gonna be trying to cc them and keep them out of the fight and away from ur flag. where ur dh would be good to fc. or at least getting flag out of mid and to a healer who is less speedy etc

[safe pelican]

lol i mean you’re not wrong but im spending cds to get my uptime during ADR idc 😂🦦 i refuse to sit there spending vanish to be useful

Think i need to scrap my Outlaw rogue and start over my record is too poop to recover and gain MMR 🙂‍↔️🫠

[ocean silo]

does anyone know why I can't shadow dance right after my first one ends? what is this cooldown that blocks it?

[lament sedge]

is it worth crafting this?

Isnt it a pretty good stat stick for all rogue specs or?

[jaunty osprey]

Depends, if you’re using 4 set as assa, you’d use tier helm

[lament sedge]

But you can swap it for gloves instead no?

So tier set is: Shoulder, chest, glove and legs

[jaunty osprey]

Gloves is crit haste stats, if you’re playing sub or sin, those aren’t what you want

[hidden moth]

Just keep sending games u will get there

[hidden moth]

Yeah quite literally the 2 stats u don’t want since sin is just stack vers mast

[proven field]

Why do you hate it; because of when it doesn’t proc?

[lime oar]

What % vers are we looking for? I’m at like 27%

[jaunty osprey]

im at like 22

but 61% mastery

on one rogue

and then others im at 24-27 vers

and 47-52% mastery

[chilly blaze]

is there place to lfg for arena 2v2 and 3v3?

[stoic spruce]

Because if you get rooted or CCd out of your uptime, your damage plummets and you're playing a tank.

[proven field]

I just hate the inconsistency - sometimes you get 3-4 in a row and you're like POW! KAPOW! KAAACHOW!!! then other times nothing happens and you get a bad roll and since I am a scumlord playing trickster Supercharger I am not wet-noodling 1-2 ambushes hoping for something to happen

now*

It's too bad they don't just bundle CS and BTEs together - would simplify the go and make your problem largely go away

[spring bough]

That’s why trickster KS >>>>>

[severe helm]

crackshot feels great

nothing better than getting ace proc resets and getting to chain btes

too bad blizzard has bte nerfed so hard in pvp its like slapping someone with a wet noodle

[stoic spruce]

feels great when rng works in your favor

but the cons of loss of uptime and bad rng overshadow the good

[earnest forge]

is outlaw that great tbh

[proven field]

can be

[outer briar]

New to rogue and have a simple question. I want to focus on WPvP, BGB and BG achievements, would sub have the upper hand for what I want vs assa and outlaw?

[proven field]

assa prlly easiest

[severe helm]

assa is easier but sub is the best for bgb

duel is the most broken in ability ever made for blitz

[earnest forge]

I dont feel like a massive nuisance as any of the 3 specs

[outer briar]

I’ll try out sub. Thanks.

[stoic spruce]

yeah it pretty good

[potent pivot]

you'll be fine playing any of the 3 specs in blitz. play what you want to play.

[stoic spruce]

Trickz

[potent pivot]

all 3 are really good in blitz.

[stoic spruce]

show me your assa binds

1-49 I play wow and 50-100 I play bo6

THE BOT HAS SPOKEN

[outer briar]

Alright, so really, I cannot go wrong with any of the specs. Play what I want most! Seems to always be a theme for wow haha

[stoic spruce]

The rogue specs are generally pretty close rn anyway

[potent pivot]

yeah. atm rogue specs are in a good spot, don't think you are forced to play any spec in any pvp content. ignore anyone who says otherwise.

[outer briar]

The feral PvP community is wrong, you rogue players are nice. Thanks!

[stoic spruce]

mistake #1 is listening to feral players

also if you pick sub I will harass you for playing the most cringe spec in the game

[outer briar]

I’m just joking but I appreciate the guidance (1d4).

[stoic spruce]

just a warning

I do it to everyone

[potent pivot]

a little scuffed rn

[stoic spruce]

whpa

whoa

N4?

[potent pivot]

mousebutton 4

[stoic spruce]

I still click stealth

[potent pivot]

[earnest forge]

• = are acutal binds?

[potent pivot]

mousebuttons

[earnest forge]

ah.

[potent pivot]

i have like 18 binds on my mouse

not including arena1,2,3

[earnest forge]

yeah but what's ur transmog, real endgame

[stoic spruce]

I have an mmo mouse

[outer briar]

Eh I’ll probably go assa at first. It is the closest spec to feral.

[stoic spruce]

assa/unholy is very fun

should try it out

[earnest forge]

is the diablo back already available?

[stoic spruce]

is there a new one?

[earnest forge]

huh.

Im possitive I downloaded that stuff already and levelled to 10 just to get that

[potent pivot]

they've re released it

[stoic spruce]

oh okay

[potent pivot]

it was a reward in the past already

[stoic spruce]

hrnggg

[earnest forge]

ah I see.

[stoic spruce]

this months post is sick ngl

[earnest forge]

that stuff not being female restricted 😄

I mean, body type 2**

[outer briar]

Last question for now. Are there any up to date YouTube guides I should check out for assa? Any recommendations?

[outer briar]

I like that…

[stoic spruce]

hot

[earnest forge]

lmao the crown on that hair

[proven field]

I love it - makes it like a tiara

[sleek badger]

Was about to start working on my rogue and noticed that the stat prios are pretty different for outlaw. Do I need to sacrifice the ilvl and just use bloody token gear/algari to play both or would just making a 2nd rogue be easier zz

[granite herald]

People say 2nd rogue is easier

[proven field]

Struggling now to get out of 1500s in BGB - 50/50 winrate but there are some plays that are... shocking

[candid tide]

motivating people with strats at start of the game can help

[granite herald]

Till you unmotivate yourself when people do the opposite

[candid tide]

at 1500 people starts to listen more

[proven field]

yeah I am still climbing, but it was way easier on other chars earlier in season

[granite herald]

Fell down to 1340ishsome weeks ago with assassination and just took a few weeks break, started again last week and managed to get to 1600 pretty easily, was getting 50ish rating for first some games 1500 and on started to get 12-15 rating for wins

[proven field]

See but then you get this immediately after:

Not much more I can do - 7 ppl went market the entire game and refused to cap a node

Here is an artist's rendition of my team messaging my MMR:

https://tenor.com/view/im-gonna-take-you-down-cordell-walker-walker-texas-ranger-youre-going-down-i-will-destroy-you-gif-3801824700265381133

[proven field]

I think maybe this is just the land of hard-stuck 1400s

and trying to get thru them is awful lol

twice in a row now - entire team went BS the entire time; this a bot thing or what

[orchid delta]

Do we know what is to be expected cr in bg blitz to get hota?

[jaunty osprey]

you mean forged marhsal/warlord?

i think HOTA is still rbg only

but it should be 3.4k+ for most classes

EU is already playing at 3.4k MMR every lobby

[orchid delta]

I believe hota is also for bgs blitz

[jaunty osprey]

oo

that's cool

[orchid delta]

High warlord is 2.4 guaranteed

[jaunty osprey]

and there is still a few months

[orchid delta]

I got it 2 days ago

Just wondering how much I have to push for hota

[jaunty osprey]

so the r1 per class is prob 3500-3600, hota prob 3k+ then if it's still 0.5%?

but depends how much NA inflates

cause EU is way more inflated

[orchid delta]

Hmmm

Could be

Yeah it is still 0,5%

[proven field]

Lol this is miserable - win 2, lose 4, win 2, lose 2 - You really need to just win the first 10-15 and sprint right into 1800+ or get totally fucked in this garbage dump of a rating range

[earnest forge]

i'll open a formal complaint

[potent pivot]

[earnest forge]

frostfire mage damage is on the idiotic side to say the least

and its under the radar just because bm and feral exists

[proven field]

Please see to it that this is rectified immediately

[neat torrent]

I just got to 2500 conquest on my sub rogue and deciding what offhand to get with the token. Is there any reason why I wouldn't take the claws since they give mastery?

[proven field]

Sorry it's just super duper frustrating - I am calling strats, I am leading in objectives, kills, CCing the healers for years, doing everything possible but like... every single goddamn map my team is insanely far behind the other one - like we are losing 4:1 on KBs at minimum and getting blown out every single map 5x in a row now. Not sure how the hell to even fix it

Just venting 😒

[jaunty osprey]

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/2006602-dark-ranger-beast-mastery-pvp-adjustments-november-11-2024/

yuppppppp

[potent pivot]

sad

[earnest forge]

Is that enough for bm

[surreal barn]

About time

BM is so troll rn lol

I’ve seen mages just stand there and give up

[earnest forge]

Positive its still dumb

[halcyon timber]

Yep. Bouncing around like a mad man. Cannot control people purposely being dumb so rating is all over the place despite stealing a lot of objectives etc. i hear you man.

[orchid plinth]

Yes - It's worse. Dagger offhand is better due to how Shadow Techniques works.

[neat torrent]

good to know, thanks

[severe helm]

You have almost no control over it

Just how blitz works

People I think were entirely unaware of how valuable the "shuffle" part of solo shuffle was and figured blitz would feel just as fine

But blitz is like an amplified version of most solo queue games like ow or league where sometimes you just lose in the starting room

Cuz instead of having 4 potential players who can throw on your team you have 7 lol

[safe pelican]

Hahahahaha brother ! Welcome to Bgb hell 😂🦦

In the same bracket as you it is hell about to hop on now just gotta keep playing till you get out

Or make another rogue and push straight through i went straight to 1478 in one day took a break lost every game the next day been stuck ever since win 3 games straight lose 2 win 1 lose 2, win 2 , lose 2 the rating gains for losing and winning are dumb you have to be perfect to push once they set your MMR or go on a streak of winning to get more than 8-12 rating after a win

[safe pelican]

This lmao I thought shuffle was bad I’m not even getting mad anymore just play the bgs until get so good that you can carry your entire team so you play up to the next bracket eventually by force that’s all I got after seeing what we have to deal with in blitz. Coming from Arena i don’t REALLY know wtf is going on in blitz but whatever.

[icy quail]

hello there guys wanted to ask how much rating is required to unlock the weapon illusion enchant this season

[potent pivot]

1950

[icy quail]

damn

close

[grave basin]

Seems doable

Go for it king

[stoic spruce]

Better hurry before I log on

I WILL leave the shuffle after 3 crackshot windows with no ace procs

AND I WEAR IT LIKE A BADGE OF HONOR

If I'm mad, yall mad too.

https://tenor.com/view/crabs-bucket-crabsinabucket-gif-23347459

[languid ravine]

old man yells at cloud

[potent pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling-old-man-news-the-simpsons-gif-17741451

[stoic spruce]

I hope I get into a shuffle with you and leave on round 4

Best pray I get ace procs

Rahhhhhh

[lusty epoch]

Hey,do anyone can give me tips how tp setup kill as outlaw im 1.9 hard stuck on solo :/

[potent pivot]

a lot of the time you're setting it up for your team mates

[stoic spruce]

Gotta play trickster of you want that presh

But yeah you still set up for others

[potent pivot]

https://wago.io/htOw1r4Vk

this shit is kinda sick

[lusty epoch]

So i need pay more atention for healer trinket etc i guess:/ i dont know xD there is some burts rotation for outlaw? I need roll always before burst if im playing supercharger? Even with good buffs?

[safe pelican]

Need that

Idk why we need an add on for that blizz lazy af

[potent pivot]

well the personal resource display is a default setting in the game

this just tweaks it

[safe pelican]

-_- you know what I’m talking about Trickz

[potent pivot]

outlaw is more about sustained damage/cleave. your Crackshot windows and Killing Spree both provide some slight burst, but nothing too crazy.

you do kinda want to reroll on CD for supercharger

unless you have like a 5buff or something

[lusty epoch]

Its my first season as outlaw which spec its better if i wanna setup kill?

[potent pivot]

yeah i hate that we have to use WAs and addons at all. there's should be easy to use tools in the game provided by blizz i agree.

but it is what it is at this point

[lusty epoch]

Thanks for answers btw 🥰

[potent pivot]

like, which build?

https://murlok.io/rogue/outlaw/3v3#talents-specialization

i'd recommend checking out what most people run on murlok^

there's also a build in the pins

[lusty epoch]

Thanks;)

What about trickster vs fatebound? Both are fine?

[potent pivot]

both are fine to an extent, but Fatebound is the most popular/better option generally

[ionic forge]

Is there an add-on or weak aura to display enemy CC trinket status/CF on their nameplate?

[potent pivot]

CF?

most people just use Gladius or sArena for enemy trinket display

nameplates are generally used for a lot of other vital information

[ionic forge]

CD sorry.

More for Blitz than arena.

[potent pivot]

do you have battlegroundenemies?

i'm sure there's a way to anchor a trinket weak aura to nameplates but i don't think anyone's made one

[proven field]

BGE does this

Just get that - you’ll need it for BGB

I use it endlessly “heh that DH at stables has 48 seconds on trinket; time to ninja it”

[lusty epoch]

Its anyone here who could review my pov maybe?;>

[potent pivot]

sure, if you post a clip of a match(s) i'm sure someone will take a peep

[ionic forge]

Yeah, I use BGE. Was just wanting to anchor a small CC trinket Icon on nameplates.

For faster recognition in combat

[torpid flame]

wtf am i suposed to do as subtlety in kotmogu? orbs brick me

[jolly sierra]

killing orbs

[gleaming pawn]

Sub and Assa really should not pick up orbs or run flags in CTF (outside of extremes of course)

they remove most of your kit, and Assa especially is not as mobile and squishy as hell

[jolly sierra]

if someone says u to pick orbs as rog tell them fuck you

[languid ravine]

no you

you cant say it like that you have to say fuck you please

[jolly sierra]

why please

[potent pivot]

So you don’t get banana’d

[gleaming pawn]

^^

gotta be toxic, but in a round about non-offensive way

so they don't realize it until the match is over and can't report you

[jolly sierra]

dont u think they will report u anyways?

XD

[gleaming pawn]

I usually just tell them Assa is the worst possible carrier, and they drop it

[jolly sierra]

hope so

but some ppl is stupid

like the stubborn guy in my hc dungeon which wanted to apply a slow poison to kill a boss in cata

[potent pivot]

trying to get even 1 crate on horde is actually impossible

that's so insane

[stoic spruce]

Yeah I don't even bother anymore

[proven field]

Have you tried it; does it work?

[jolly sierra]

finally found the good feral against my ret

ended 2-4

because the guy did consistently 900k dmg

[potent pivot]

wdym

i tried it ye, dunno if i'm going to keep using it or not because i have combo points on my nameplates and it puts the extra supercharger points on my nameplates too because of that

[proven field]

I wonder if there is an easier way to do it

but so far im too lazy to look thru the code

[outer sky]

Now we're talkin'

[proven field]

grats man

I am going haaaard the other way; 2 and 10 today - blitz is just... the fucking worst lol

[outer sky]

this wasnt blitz

Rank 1 here I comeeee

[proven field]

im more impressed you actually found RBG games

[outer sky]

I have my team from last season that still queues from time to time

I'm 1800 in RBGs on my main rogue

[proven field]

we tried in guild but couldnt get anyone to play against

just same 2 2400 groups and us over and over

[outer sky]

Anyone know where I go to buy the elite tabard?

[proven field]

dornogal across from pvp vendor I believe

[outer sky]

ty

[proven field]

I am now 11 and 16 just on a nonstop lose streak to zero

to the point where it feels like I am being deliberately put on losing teams due to some matchmaking bullshit

[potent pivot]

@jaunty osprey get off the big screen

[jaunty osprey]

wtf

he zoomed in on me

fan behaviour smh

[potent pivot]

[jaunty osprey]

ayyy gz

what build?

[hidden moth]

big screen?

[potent pivot]

i heard that shit in the background

[jaunty osprey]

also no, rank 1 is for me

[potent pivot]

"the ivanrah on a goat"

[jaunty osprey]

pika zoomed in on my 2 rogues on stream

[hidden moth]

in check pvp or sum

[jaunty osprey]

no

in-game

[hidden moth]

wait how did he zoom on ur 2 rogues in the same game lol

[jaunty osprey]

im right next to him

on 2 accounts

[hidden moth]

ah i see

i gotta find a good aff lock for 3v3

any recommendations on where to look?

[jaunty osprey]

lfg is kinda dead, but what i usually do is just make a posting to add btags for future queues

[hidden moth]

ah

i might try the check pvp thing

[jaunty osprey]

lfg is so dead, it's rough

[torpid flame]

grats man. im 1600 blitz but i feel like in league of legends rankeds elo fucking hell. 1 game win 2 game i got fucking apes

i play sub so i do impact and shitload CC

[potent pivot]

would be nice if shuffle was more like m+ at the end

[jaunty osprey]

the check-pvp thing works

i just checked it

[potent pivot]

where you can add each other if you want

[jaunty osprey]

and someone messaged me

people in shuffle too salty when u're wining or if they're losing or they're salty no matter what

and never wanna add people or talk

😦 pvp community sucks

[potent pivot]

yep

[torpid flame]

blitz is worse

i play with chat turned off in options

[hidden moth]

i got a few friends from shuffles.

did they ever fix the crests?

where ur supposed to get crests from games at x rating and 2400+ gives u the big boy crests

[torpid flame]

is there an option to not target hunter ZOO in battlegrounds ?

[jaunty osprey]

u can turn off pet nameplates

and you can make your tab target to players only

or just use battleground enemies to target

[torpid flame]

tab target players only would be nice option

[proven field]

there is an option for it

[torpid flame]

cause sometimes u maby click totem

[proven field]

https://addons.wago.io/addons/retabbinder-pvp-smart-targeting

[jaunty osprey]

^ use that or

you can set it manually

target nearest enemy player

[torpid flame]

gotcha

target nearest enemy player rebinded

[jaunty osprey]

and tab targetting is smart targetting

aka it will tab your closest target in the direction you're facing

[proven field]

(kind of, its a bit wonky)

[torpid flame]

and this action targeting ?

[potent pivot]

Do you think that’s actually worth

Jw

[jaunty osprey]

i only pay for 1 account, second account is all through gold

so

[potent pivot]

Ye I’ve been thinking about it

[jaunty osprey]

it's worth for me because

my queues are actually so long

it's nice for alts too if you have alts on different realms

[potent pivot]

Is everything shared since it’s same bnet

[jaunty osprey]

you can be in different phases

ya

[potent pivot]

Like mog, mounts etc

[jaunty osprey]

mounts, quests, mogs

etc

[potent pivot]

I know warband is shared

Word

[jaunty osprey]

legit 2nd account on same bnet is just

extended char list

it acts as if same account

[potent pivot]

Yeah

I was thinking about using gold for 4 accounts

[jaunty osprey]

can also sit in isle of dorn on level 70s

[potent pivot]

Then using a trial account twink to boost myself on 4 accounts at once

[jaunty osprey]

and just loot supply crates

non-stop too

also if you didnt know, supply crate in DF zones give bloody tokens still

and there's no competition for it

if you're playing horde

[potent pivot]

Ye I know

I rarely see them spawn though

At the beginning of the season they were spawning a lot

[jaunty osprey]

DF one is like once every 30 mins to 1 hr

it's rough

u right

[potent pivot]

I’ve gone back and checked like three times and never see spawns

[jaunty osprey]

and it looks like it spawns more often based on how many people are in zone

so if you're the only one

rip

[potent pivot]

Yeah at the beginning of the season it was every 15 min like in DF

This one guy that I stumbled across

Has 4-5 accounts and like 200 characters

And he just uses his profession Concentration twice a week on all of them

Makes like 6m a week

[jaunty osprey]

jesus

[potent pivot]

When you can solo boost 4 chars at a time with a trial acc twink it doesn’t even seem that bad

[jaunty osprey]

got a pop

either i get r1 on this alt

or i drop to hell

[potent pivot]

Just constantly running timewalking dungeons on a level 11

[jaunty osprey]

ok won 1

ok won 2

ok won 3

[potent pivot]

[jaunty osprey]

won 4

ok i got rank 1

on my alt rogue

back to #1 and #2

won 5

yeahhhhhhh

so about that

won 6

[lusty epoch]

So overall outlaw playstylw its just do cc on healer and hit some dmg but set up kill for team right?

[jaunty osprey]

@potent pivot

big envenom on the pvp dev

im getting this shit nerfed

[potent pivot]

The what

And idk if blood dk can do 2m death strikes I feel like we should be the last thing on their mind

[jaunty osprey]

smexxin is a wow dev now

or has been

for a while

but lowkey

[potent pivot]

You sure about that

Hasn’t he openly cheated in classic pvp on stream

Or am I thinking of a different warrior

[lusty epoch]

Why some outlaw playong dagger and sword instead 2x swords? There is some reason behind?

[potent pivot]

Dagger offhand is slightly better

But it’s not a big deal at all, you won’t notice it

[lusty epoch]

Ahh ok thanks 🙂

[potent pivot]

Nvm I think I was thinking of dekel

[jaunty osprey]

LOL

[potent pivot]

But also

[jaunty osprey]

i was like no shot smexxin cheated

[potent pivot]

Everyone says there are no pvp devs

[jaunty osprey]

also ayyy highest rated assa in the world

didnt realize was higher than eu

[orchid plinth]

fucking god gamer computer athlete, wp!

[potent pivot]

wait are you actually playing what i think you're playing

oh

no

you're not

LMFAO

[glad zinc]

should i be stun locking as outlaw during vanish windows or just stun and then let bte rip?

[potent pivot]

there's usually no point in spamming 1 person with stuns as outlaw

[glad zinc]

oh ok thanks, coming from sub. outlaw is pretty interesting and fun

[jaunty osprey]

LOL

did u check my talents

[potent pivot]

yes lmfao

[jaunty osprey]

doing that to fuck with murlok.io

[potent pivot]

i looked at the list on check-pvp

and was like 'wtf is going on here'

imported it

and lol

[jaunty osprey]

i was thinking of taking off deathmark

but then i have to grab real talents if i take it off

[potent pivot]

[jaunty osprey]

soothing darkness and cold blood for fatebound too

[potent pivot]

all the choice nodes

[jaunty osprey]

wait

numbing is actually good

go atrophic

and no iron wire

[potent pivot]

ah i forgot IW was a choice node lmao

[jaunty osprey]

and gotta grab tricks

[potent pivot]

gotta wait for it to update

[jaunty osprey]

i just updated my chars on checkpvp

[potent pivot]

don't forget

pvp talents

[jaunty osprey]

nah nah nah

gotta make it at least seem

a bit realistic

(i closed my wow) and too lazy to log in

[potent pivot]