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so defensives are up more?
yeah
alright thanks man
npnp
one more question trickz
these super charged combo points what does that mean? like do my combo points have to be exactly that many to use the super charge and is it worth using if its on the first combo point?
it just adds extra combo points to your finishers
so the blue points you see on your UI are just showing you the amount of charges you have
so with Forced Induction, your next 2 finishers after RtB will do damage as if they had +3 combo points each
so i still want to use max Combo points the blue ones just add more technicallly
yes, but you know you don't always aim for max combo points, right?
you should "aim" to finish on 5 or more combo points
so if you land on 5, you use a finisher
if you happen to land on 6 or 7 that's fine
but don't use a generator if you already have 5
ahhhh ok i knew i didnt HAVE to land on 7 but i thought it would be wasting dmg
the only exception really is for a juiced killing spree
naw it most situations, pressing a generator when you already have 5 combo points, is a damage loss
Everythings coming together now lol
you're also adding a GCD, and spending energy you don't need to spend
outlaw is hyper focused around spamming finishers
if you press a generator on 5 or more, you waste combo points, energy, GCD, etc
Yeah, good for fatebound lol
ok i see
and Blade flurry do i press off cd for PvP or is that troll
kinda
it can break CC if it's in your range
most top rogue players use a cancelaura macro for flurry
so that you can mostly press it on CD, but also cancel it so that you don't break CC
any chance u have that macro?
yeah give me a sec to snag it

/cancelaura Blade Flurry
i put it on the same keybind as my BF, but with a modifier
so like my BF is on "F", so i just make "ctrl-F", just as an example
sweet mann thankls
i was right
val did queue
and he 6-0d
so i had to 6-0 as well
man my first shuffle with ur tips and i one shot a mage and he rage quit XD


better watch out next month
when i start queueing rogue again

u wish
I usually play sub in pvp if I pvp at all, so potentially dumb sin question: How effective is dotting someone up and running for a restealth compared to a feral?
Like just out in the world with nobody to heal your victim.
that's fine
if you have a shiv on them
when you do it
your bleeds will hit harder
and they'll be omega slowed
assa is able to spam slows
How threatening are said bleeds if I just decide not to open on them and see what they do lol
Esp if u got a 60 sec rupture on em 😂
both garrote and rupture are usually your biggest damage sources
yes
yesterday i gave a guy a stroke suddenly when he was a mage and tbh didnt noticed him dying at the time in a shuffle
Sounds dope
Any funny uses of the dracthyr racial noted? I'm still thinking over a switch and it's either nelf or drac
depends on the class
some classes can just get rid of them
you can kinda counter knocks with double jump, that's about it
sin rogue 9/9 gemmed out. 47.4% mastery before pvp ilvl lol
sudden demise KBs going for like 700k lol
I'm just sorta comparing to feral because I remember a few occasions they'd open on my mage and it was an ordeal.
🔥
finally using mastery for proper work
but this was like launch
Kidney bomb with all your bleeds and KB on them and watch them rot to death
Deathmark neccesary or will they just rot naturally
think demise is unreactable
it triggers insta once the threshold is met
it's still good, but not great. it's also a debuff on the enemy, so it's dispellable and easy to counter etc
ye i was just saying it's nerfed in pvp. like it doesn't trigger anywhere near as much as it's pve tooltip describes
that hunter in forums in rework days is the fault
it's a bleed
can also be removed/immuned by multiple defensives
Kek
probably that one hunter that comes in here
which one lol
baiting that rogue needs nerfs all the time
but yeah was just wonderign before trying it in world pvp for giggles.
the thing is sudden demise is still very very good
Jump them if they survive
i really love how u cant react to it in low hp
I'm only rocking aspirant gear since I haven't really been pvping.
but I'm playing my rogue now and enjoy rogue pvp so
honor gear is usually fine for wpvp
What % does it typically proc for you guys?
but get some wpvp and conquest gear
Ye
it's supposed to proc under 10% hp
like 10% hp ye
but you have to have pretty fresh bleeds on them
Yeah but I mean like
I assume in pvp people aren't exploding instantly at 35
Oh 10% ok
yeah it's 10
we don't run them eh
not really
I'm not on r/n so haven't checked the builds and such yet
hemo/bomb are pretty much 100% lock-ins
then if you don't need Veil or Disarm we can run DfA
either DfA or the Tricks pvp talent to buff a team mate's damage
Tricks won't come in handy in wpvp though
and its kinda meh in shuff imo
well system shock was very good in bfa
but it wouldn't really be effective ye?
veil will make cloak clear bleeds for more easy restealths
meanwhile ring of fire is still insane
i usually keep veil spec'd in wpvp
yeh
DfA is fun and decent
finally something i agree w trickz lol
there was an old trick I wonder if it still works
where if the initial hit of dfa killed a shaman it would hit them if they reincarned before you came down
DfA or some other new fun single target finisher should be added baseline to Assa, or a talent to chose like Outlaw has Killing Spree and Sub has Sec Tech
i would rather they just revert the added energy cost of Mutilate and buff it and Ambush damage
.
I'm so over rotting with bleeds
Mut and Ambush have been bad for over an expansion now
what stats on rings? I'll recraft my 610s when I get decent pve ones.
vers/mast for crafted
I figured it'd be mast
ye we run mast on everything except tier set
And daggers for rn because of the free ones
free ones? :L
oh that
Mr. Money Bags over here with a tier 3 Scout's March
😄
what slots do you have your embelishments in if not boots
that load of mastery holy shit
eh it's not that much more than crafted, and it's a lot of lost vers
this felt amazing lol
1.36m kingsbane, with a 1.62m envenom and a 544k demise to finish em
Watching sinnens transition to a real rogue spec has been so entertaining
2153 in solo just there XD
You get two tokens for weapons from reaching 2500 conquest earned
I’m replacing bloody token gear before crafting em
It would be nice if they revisited the tokens for 2500 conquest next season, and just give us enough epic heraldry to craft our weapons
Yep agreed
fair
i still dont know if i should craft neck/rings
or stick with conq neck and ring (1 craft)
it is a lot more
mine wasnt in pvp
scaling
i don't think you need to craft it
we don't really reach 30% vers this season easily anyway
no dr vers increases dmg too
true
I’m kinda liking conq neck bare minimum with crafted rings
oh thought I saw the tooltip scale to 636, that makes a lot more sense then
It’s not a huge difference either way but assa is pretty squishy
ya
I wouldn't change my setup as is, but for a newly geared character is makes some sense
one of my rogues
is 29% vers
and i have one at 22% and more mastery
and i feel equally squishy
Yeah we won’t notice it that much
But every little bit helps the healer
I kinda wish there was something more we could do, but at the same time I don’t 
We play KB again now? 😮
Openers are a little situational, but the main things are get out some CC and then garrote, ambush, rupture, etc
Try to make sure you get a Sap off on someone then either opener with Cheap or just Garrote on someone else
Build combo points with FoK on 2 or more targets, or if you’re getting kited
Try to upkeep your bleeds and poisons on as many targets as you can without fucking with CC
Prioritize casting CT if 2 or more are in range and you already have a couple garrotes/ruptures up
Awesome info, ty... when do you usually Shiv?
and always Ambush for deathmark in opener right?
notrickz doesnt shiv, he'
after garrote CS for example?
he's a dirty feral player
Yes but you can do it at any time during your Subterfuge window
But the earlier you do it the better in case you get CCed
So typically gar->ambush->rupture
also, shiv is insane if they're stacked or about to stack
Ye^
ty so much
Shiv is an aoe with AP talented
Buffs bleeds and nature dmg
You always want to try to shiv your KB
ELE OR ENHANCE?!?!
Can play both but I prefer playing melee
Oh yeah.
are the stats bad?
they were pretty mid for mage
they're crit/vers daggers but it doesn't matter
free weapons are huge for gearing quick and cheap
yeh
in blitz how yall running it on rogue
haven't done it yet but probably gonna do rogue and mage because everyone else's mogs suck.
wdym
like on blitz what are you doing to get the wins
rogue is one of the best classes for blitz
you mostly run around ninja capping bases or you can sit bases
Oh ok.
If I'm like sweating just to get the mog am I sin or sub?
all types
base maps, flag carry maps, cart maps and the orb map
is BM hunter still like 1234 easy level now?
yep
then don't play it
yeah
a lot of classes/specs are fun rn
i was scanning through my alt
while doing the halloween thingy
did the mogs while waiitng in queue
i figured i wanted to do DK purely because my DK characeter looks sexy...
void elf..
i still gotta level sham/hunter
there's literally no other reason pff
i think i will end up with SP or Feral or another rogue
but my human SP is just not sexy as void elf
it's like just a character
Human better imo
from apperance or utility...
i mean i totally agree with you from pratical stand point..
this is my SP
I mean, it's okay
not bad
but this is sexy bro

my priest is undead
can you send honor to alt cross horde/alliance?
ya
there's also a workaround to invite cross faction to your personal guild
ye but if you have your own personal guild with only your alts in it, you can't
the guild finder window doesn't work cross faction
you have to have someone of your same faction invite you to the guild
like i've got most of my characters in 1 guild, no one else is in it to help me invite them etc
What's sins max dam opener? For just annihilating someone who probably doesn't know you're there.
same thing i told someone a little while ago
cheap-gar-ambush-rupture
well, that's simple
then re cheap if you want, shiv-KB-deathmark, build for envenom
try to re garrote early, before the end of your Improved Garrote window
so you get max duration of the empowered garrote
dont u wanna deathmark before kb
for more poison procs to make kb go boom
the exact order doesn't matter than much i don't think
the poison procs don't affect the initial hit of KB, just the ramp
the duplicated bleeds affect the initial hit through Lethal Dose etc
but ye you could Deathmark-shiv-KB
it really depends
i think against caster, I do garrot - ambush - rupture, cs, shiv, kb -> etc. I know lots do second garrot too, I think we can do second garrot a bit later since now improved garrot is longer
against melee, i normally do cs, garrot, ambush, rupture, cs shiv kb -> etc.
i guess the point is in arena, lots of openings cc will be on different target
a cs or garrot on healer after sap might worth more than 10-15% more dmg on killing target
what did it use to do
well i havnt heard of it or seen it recently so i doubt its a thing still
but the gar still takes u from stealth even if it doesnt break sap no?
ya it still works
i just thought of this
but sub vs outlaw is just the age old argument of Pirate vs ninja
How many gems can i add to a ring and neck?
you can add 2 sockets to all jewelry slots
Ty
Why are we talking about shiv and not KS 🦦🥱
Pirate Mafia has arrived on the scene 🎬
I feel like 6:30 am is too early to queue blitz if i lose this early ima go pve 😂
Lmao BM so trashly broken rn
Sending full burst at them when i see em go the graveyard and res sir try again i was beefing with this BM hunter in my blitz match last night he kept focusing me lol i kept sending max CP kidneys at him and hooking away 😂
5 second timeout
Gotta love this damage breakdown
1.3M DPS
Enemy healer couldn't keep up with being hit by just Blade Flurry
ezpz
1st to die, Enemy rSham to Killing Spree
Warrior died the next second to my Blade Flurry Between the Eyes damage
and priest died to my Unseen Blade
Change your bottom right details counter to dps instead of damage done
Take SS when you reach 1M highest I have hit was 750k sustained like Trickz is saying I’m sure you can HIT it but for how long is that a sustained period of dps
How many casts of KS 1 or two
7 casts
also the DPS value is shown to the right
Damage Done is both raw total damage and DPS
Highest DPS I've done was 3M cleave
on 3 targets
rated btw
Talking about how many casts of KS in this one was that one or 2
Supercharger on shiv plays infinitely better than on RtB
Thank you lmao i was trying to put this math together about to have a stroke 😂
XD
Outlaw needs it on a new button
This
This is actually why assa is broken rn lol
Not fuckin vanish tho
SHHHHHHH
lol
But ye
If you wanna know how much my KS is doing
~4,801,020 Damage unmitigated non-crit
~7,201,530 Damage unmitigated full-crit (all 22 hits crit)
this is subtracting armor, versatility, and any passive talent DRs
as well as damage ranges
Yea that’s on dummy right ?
mathmatical value
@potent pivot how did that cold blood outlaw expirement go?
A fully stacked BTE is worth almost 3/4 a Killing Spree
Yea i have been noticing that it’s almost better to slam super charged BTE’s and spam that in the adr window and then send KS on the first RTB after to keep up dps ?
Not really
A normal BTE is worth less than a Killing Spree
A fully stacked one is different
These are the modifiers for a fully stacked BTE
+15% Damage (Ghostly Strike)
+5% Damage (Fazed)
+30% Damage Amp (.5 PvP Multiplier 4p)
+42% Damage (Flawless Form)
main thing that sends it over the edge is the 4p effect
without that, KS > BTE
Because you go energy starved if you dont
But I’m running Fatebound brother 🙂↔️😈
Oh, then ye, BTE > KS
So would it be better to spend the super points on the BTE’s , KS or split it between 1 BTE and one KS in the opener
KS outside of stealth windows
Yea
Trickster is the one that BTE --> KS for finishers
also if your wondering about the damage breakdown
I was maintaining 1.3M DPS for 1min 30s
For the remainder of the time (55s), it slowly trickled down
🙂↔️
🧢
FB still more fun for blitz is probably not play trickster in arena though
Trying to find the fastest way to send another super KS after the opening subterfuge window
Where are the Fatebound superstars at 🤨
suspended


Why do people at 2k mmr play like they just bought the game?
Luck
can you explain this tech
can i play whatever meme build this is with low haste
Roll The Bones = Supercharger activates (Forced Induction so its +3 CPs). Between the Eyes for +20% Crit and then Killing Spree for next finisher for 22 hits on 1 Killing Spree
3-1 today stole my first base XD
Ye
these 1v1 rogue backcap fights are what ive been looking for im cooking sub rogues on backcap ngl just hook around during blades and flag lmao then comeback and kidney into super KS use BTE opener with ADR to get evasion CD
You have a lot of sustain
Kyveza heroic dagger yw
4-1 think i need a break though but im hot rn lord knows next log in im losing 8 staight
didnt know we could get bloostones in the pvp boxes from winning thats dope
Thats super rare lol
I've opened hundreds of those boxes since TWW started
no bloodstones
yea that was my first one quick 7k gold for winning a blitz bg not bad lol
been playing since season start as well needs to drop more often with how much honor it cost and how much it goes for on the AH
2 set or 4 set for outlaw?
Is it even worth getting 4 set? i feel like im going to lose alot of haste I like where im sitting right now
Ye
4p gives up to +30% Between the Eyes damage
The highest I've gotten BTE to do non crit was 970k
If that critted
That'd be 2.7M (2.91M if we want to include the 70k in the math)
say less
the amount of stacks gained depends on your builders
since we get double procs and FTH often, you should know how often that is
Love when sudden demise
isnt the killing blow for some reason
and proccing randomly 0.2 seconds before their death
Lol that is the worse youre like nah dont proc now 😂
whats FTH you know im still learning how to speak outlaw
Fan the Hammer
@potent pivot they got back to me on that ticket. They restored the 6398 timewarped badges that I had lost in the war band xfer bs
hey folks... for bgs as trickster sub, any thoughts on gloomblade, replicating shadows, deeper daggers and dark brew for more pressure via shadow dmg bypassing armor and keeping up dmg between bursts? CUQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeAAMz2MAAAAAAMbjxy0MAzwYMzMzMzMzMmtxMGLbjZGmZMGzsMGAAAAmBDbmtZMbzwYhhlZ2mWotZDG
Is there a trick to re stealthing in arena? Sometimes I sit behind a pillar forever and won’t restealth as DS Sin.
I’ll even blow a Shadowmeld and I’ll still be in combat
AFAIK deathstalker still has bugs with rupture and re-strealthing?
did they ever do garrison catchup mechanics for alts
Disc priest so OP in solo. This guy goes “you LOS me most of the match. I just threw a shield and you cooked” 😂
It was RMP vs holy paladin and affli/destro for my last round
thats a lot of birds
New to sub, why do I see so many good players mix in shuriken storm casts?
Combo point reasons?
Clear the Witnesses if they are Deathstalker, and maxing Danse Macabre stacks during dance
I see, I play DS
Should I only use it once during dance, in place of like a cheapshot or a shadowstrike, then?
I would not worry about it during dance
just use it outside of dance for clear the witnesses, if you have the energy
but maybe one of the Sub mains can answer better, I only dabble
In a game with a 2902 mistweaver 😭
nintendo ds? lol
Sub damage between burst just doesn’t matter at all. You kinda have to play for max burst.
absolutely trucking a solo shuffle right how as fatebound outlaw lol

youd think so by my gameplay
Nerf feral, thanks
Hell yes dawgs. Moved up from #8 to #7 outlaw on the blitz boards
Do I keep going lol
Gz!
keep going
get the top 1 so u get your own cult here
Forged grand marshal does sound nice
I need to get past 2597 to be in the title territory
💀
I’m in a temple blitz…. 3 rogues vs 3 rogues
They have 3 sin rogues
You guys ever get days where it feels like outlaw is broken? All week nonstop pump - play today, I am just constantly energy starved, doing zero dps, no idea what has suddenly changed
The planets are not alinged and the moon is slightly at a diffrent position so the tides are a bit wonky and your pirate ship can't keep stable so your dice rolls are shit
Yes it felt weird earlier in the week today it feels crazy lol
how it went?
How do you open on outlaw usually?
Losing solo rating…. But up to 2521 in blitz lol
Roll the bones and adrenaline rush while stealthed
Make sure not to have anyone targeted when you press adrenaline rush or your coin proc will break your stealth
You can open with a kidney, a cheap or just open and start blasting BtEs
Thanks! 🙂 Cant really find information on this anywhere besides just watching twitch
Yeah
Watching whaazz or another rogue is probably your best bet
Most of them have an addon that displays their spell usage in order etc
nice nice its something
Record a few blitz games and send them to me Senpai I’m trying to get up there soon
I can’t be selling out my garbage play like that 😂
Lmaoooo chill out you’re top 10 cut the bs and send 🥱🦦
won again in SS, im leaving for today
ye, im pushing till 1950 this time as goal xdd
duelist maybe for later
but for now
Take the game off easy mode already and join the pirate committee
This ferals name is thebearjew a inglorious basterds reference 😂
Lol that’s a good one
Gunna finish my assa push soon Outlul is fun rn though in blitz at least assa would be easier in shuffle for sure
im going w the ret to push for honor tho lol
Why ret?? Pally is so meh
because i want to
I asked for blitz gameplay what is this
same stuff diff place lol
Put the gun down 🙄
lol
im not the one which owns guns in their spec kek
i just cover weapons in a poison bath
sent u a request. gonna send u the blitz game i just won
me and hunter raced to LH. capped over their two defenders. kept LH for most of the game and then we got WW too
lost LH at the very end but still won GG
sorry if this has been asked a million times, i'm currently trying to learn pvp and i've been testing different builds to understand how it all works!
Why were Master Assassin and Kingsbane taken over using something like Serrated Bonespike?
and on the rogue side i never quite knew whether to use the supercharged points, Lethality, or Alacrity...
master assassin is 20% crit for 12 seconds which is very strong bc while thats going u have 50% more garrote dam and ur rup and gar hit 3 people
kb gives a bit extra burst for our goes
that makes a lot of sense yea
2553, the #6 outlaw in blitz. climbing yall
whats best burst rotation?
for sin
Cheap, gar, bush, rup, cheap, gar venom, (if u got haste maybe a 3X dr cheap),death mark, shiv, kb, slam out muts/fok and venom spam send 2nd shiv when ur first is ~1 second duration left
Do I start pushing my glad now or wait till end of season hmmmm
end of this game was pretty fun. ended with all the orbs. GG
is blitz dead already? lol
What's that weak aura?
is it telling you what GCD to press?
its hekili just a rotation addon
seems useful. I've got all sorts of alarms beeping and boping when i need to refresh RTB and blade flurry lol
Nahj blitz team just whooping my teams ass rn. Christ almighty lol
i wouldnt trust rotation of a w/a
ur out of range bc mechanic and u cant hit the boss so ur gonna hold gcds till u can run up and hit a dispatch or ambush, and ur sitting therre doing nothing when u could be sending some pistol shots
#5 outlaw on blitz
top 5 alive
2609 top four alive loool
that is forged marshal territory boys
just made 4k gold lockpicking 2 boxes lol
blitz or solo?
T_T
bigggggg
that w/l too
70-25
nice
It's funny how easy it is to get suspended in shuffle for telling the healer they're bad vs botting.
_>
damn, what did you do lmao
the mage need some milk
first round disc mage feral vs rogue spriest shaman. me nad feral position to go spriest while the mage is also invis. we push their spawn side wall in the mugambala arena and mage goes up top in the far corner closest our spawn and losses the 1v1 to the rogue while they are in narnia away from the fight
yells at me for his bad positioning xD
hello, i'm playing with a friend who plays disc. would sub or assass be better for 2s?
both arnt bad
prob assa since assa is rot and more up time
ah okay thank you!
but sub will be slamming bursts
got it, sub for more burst, but assass was for more dampening
"Tank why are you not holding flag, it's a standoff" "I am on D"
odds of winning
we then proceed to sit 7 on D for 5 mins straight - they return with 30sec and we lose
BGB just makes you crazy - next map (this is 2k mmr) EOTS - 6 ppl go mid
we lose both bases because other team is holding them with 4 - then we lose mid, then... no recovery
"guys please just all go FR at start, let hunter and I sit DR and prev peel out if needed" "ok" six go immediately to mid
u dont know mid is the only way to win
The good news is, if it were golf - where the lowest score matters - we would have killed them
envenom going crazy
Nice job👍
my man i feel the pain, on my mw i just had a warrior jump behind enemy pillar first global vs rmp and die, proceeding to flame me for leaving my pillar "just to eat cc" :F
also had a mage die without block while letting me sit a hex, i'm done with healing shuffle for today 🐶
When do classes start 👀
is it stupid to cannibalize pve weakaura suites for pvp stuff?
nah
like just stealing individual buff tracker icons and stuff from it
in its entirety?
pshhh yeah
same and im pretty new to wow and entirely new to rogue
it is hard as hell to find resources for learning sub that dont assume 10 years wow exp
yeah in df you could buy these like
alt boxes, random piece of conq gear for 375 a pop
quick way to gear alts by spamming arenas on main
i wouldn't say it's bad
i mostly use WAs i make myself, for 2-3 things depending on spec
could i pick your brain about what you use on DS sub?
WA wise, i mean
kinda on the line of self promo here >_<
mainly just a Darkest Night buff WA, but it isn't really necessary
just as a different example:
pretty much every spec in the game is playable with just a couple auras
thanks! this may be a dipshit question, but how does darkest night inform how you play? i'm still at the stage where i use it as a passive dps increase
i mostly have the WA for assa to let me know i have it ready for a max cp envenom
OOP, i can delete
probably for the best
i'm trying to do the token quest on my alts rn last minute
a
oh shit dm fair is over

i got 6 alts to 80 in 3 days lol
dmf with hallows end exp buffs with war band event buff and event quest buff went hard
i have like 6 alts that were sitting at the fair with the exp buff
65% increase exp+timewalk
so i can't log em rn
ye but i don't want to waste the buff
ah
still have it rn
don't really need a 2nd rogue to play sub
2 set vs 4 set ig
playing 4set is fine for sub
is it better not to if you have the option tho?
what macros will i need. i see guides that are like use secret tech macro and dance macro and the macros are all just like
/dance
/symbols
/shadowblade
/trinket
/tech
it's debatable
i just dunno if i learn sub or push glad as assa
basically zero macros
interesting
from what ive seen it just seems like a bunch of buff stacking to try to get 4 mil eviserates
pretty much except you're never really gonna hit 4m
the 4set is arguably better to use now that sub is forced to play for 1.5min burst windows
because you can have sectech for all of those windows
What add on is it for de buffs on nameplate ?
betterblizzplates
this season is so fucked
XD
did you die to the blood DK
AWC finals be like
People complain about "sub op" -> gutted -> tank mirror in AWC finals -> wow dead
feral and blood dk bruh
luckily feral is fotm bait so some of them are bad af and very easy to kill
i don't think they've started yet lol
finals start next weekend i'm p sure
which pieces should i optimally have as 2set on sub?
intuitively i feel like legs and shoulders but idk
i wish there was a mass report button cause fuck blitz
everyone in this BG just trashing outlaw rogue for no reason lmao
i go fast cloak smoke cap LM and then outta nowhere i get attacked for capping LM
people so focused on typing about others than playing the game even at 2500..... makes me wanna reach thru a computer at someone
How can early capping LM be a bad thing
because someone else had to sit farm that didnt want too
so they talked so much shit to me everyone else on the team started too
Check murlok
wtf😂 that’s wild bro. Did u win?
no we lost by 1 cap
because a warrior hit my blind on a rogue when i was .2 off farm
and claimed i was being hit by the priest
when i was mid cap so idk how i was getting hit lol
Mage whispered me “don’t worry he’s been doing that to people all morning” great can’t wait to Que wit this guy again lmao
that happens
persons with no social skills irl and with self steem issues using a game to fill that stuff always behave like that
once once flamed me for staying in stables because nobody did it and guy insulted me hard
spoiler: ||we won anyways||
Spoiler… my team lost… cause 3-4 people for 5 minutes could only type about how outlaw rogue is useless in BG
Rather than play the game
idk how they can get along well w persons tbh
and get partners to play
When I smoke bombed capped LM over 2 locks and a healer off the start of the match
Yeah outlaw real useless
xd
They stuck on old news - we can do anything other rogues can now - I have KS one-shot FCs a dozen times already on my climb
yeah its great ST damage on FCs... just cause we cant aoe like afflic lock
means afflic lock in games rip on us cause they dont understand
ive had this lock in a dozen games since yesterday says it all the time like buddy keep talking ima keep winning over u lol
guys when does the unbound spoil chests spawn ?
there should be spawn times in the comments on the wowhead page of the chest
´thats sadly not correct
then they made the spawn random
i camped last 3 days 12 am - 6 pm - 12 pm
because it was 100% correct
not 1 spawn
ye they changed the spawn to be random then
Outlaw is great for bg. We got plenty of utility and cc to make a difference. I changed to dractyr. The glide and knockback is real nice.
Oh I know. But try telling that to some of the people in blitz today…… they a bunch of sore losers or something today lol
I found the glide to slow me down considerably. As a Zandalar I’m zooming around at 175 now
im out for now guys
even did very shitty dmg
how tf ferals can do that dmg w dots
look at my rupture bruh
With their racial glide?
It is correct
Still
it changed on NA cause daylight savings
Grats
maybe they just got unlucky with dead spawns if that's still happening
thank u grandmaster
Not grandmaster lol… went on a four game losing streak last night. Down 20 rating 😭
mistakes are human
u are still my grandmaster even in heart
git gud

I feel like dps specs should be able to switch spec before game starts
Like in rated
what time is it spawning now? 12pm/6pm est?
I think it was 10 AM, I forget - but I got it a few days ago
where does flagellation go in my go as sub rogue?
Word I’ve been neglecting that shit on my alts. You actually put together one of the last groups I waited for the spawn with 
You can do it before kidney or after, you just want to be at max combo points->Flag->spend the combo points.
Every finisher after you press it builds stacks.
that would give disgusting advantage in stuff like SS
imagine the hunter spots the assa so he switch to surv
that wouldnt work though
cuz your rating is tied to your spec and it would make it very mandatory to play all 3 specs if you wanted to push rating
I think it works a lot better to have the cutoffs be spec specific
o LMAO rip
i stopped making groups
I just phase hop till i find a dead RP shard
yeah it was a while back when we were still finishing them on first rogues
ye
except hallowfall
but i think we even checked there after and there was nothing
wowhead says that blizz fixed that spawn issue
that issue was caused by desync from server maintenance
only on NA
some realms/phases are already up even though login servers down
and some arent
i remember looting a chest at a completely random time
yeah there's been a lot of reports of it spawning at random times
that's why i thought maybe they changed it to be random
ya it’s only when that week has extended maintenance
just got so lucky
word that's weird af
wdym
oh upgrade, ya
i have a full set now besides cloak
that ring is the only one i've snagged for cheap with a socket though
yaya
got nothing else to use valorstones n shit on anyway
its fine then
i'm using regular boe boots
i need to get lower ilvl boots for minor speed
these fuckers would be nice but they're expensive
try using 320 ilvl boots
to enchant them with 10% more speed
if u find some with speed as bonus then go ahead
yeah ik
the legendary is good because you can stack more stats for longstrider
with the 3 sockets
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i thing that is enough w the new season jewelry
remember longstrider is nerfed
yeh i'm just going off of studen's new lvl 80 speed set guide
he says the leggo boots are the best thing to use but are expensive so most people don't use em
i see
i have a pair, but w my monk and the BE rog
tbh i really want to heir items like in diablo
good dammit dude those are just low ilvl irrelevant stuff why u are making it so hard
ye, could be fine
cuz once the set is done i prolly won't ever have to do it again
if it scales like level 70 speed sets are now when we get level 90 cap
BTW already xmogged the illusion in my ret
TF looking sick

can seethe dude but is still pvp related lol
conq unlock next reset or the one after?
week 10
idr what week we're on rn
When is season end so I can take off work lol
don't think it's been announced, but likely 2+ months away
it usually stands for like 5 months
thanks man! so does secret technique as a combo point spender make the most sense here?
as in kidney > flag > ST > shadowstrike > eviscerate etc
Well you can’t kidney flag sectech
You’d need a combo point generator in there
It doesn’t really matter what finisher you use as far as Flag stacks go
But in general you usually want to rupture-sec tech-evis-evis
Your biggest damage global rn is evis and you want to try to line up Darkest Night, Finality, etc for the biggest evis
gg 2500mmr games now
There’s an argument to be made
That you shouldn’t send your big damage until you have max Flag stacks
But just doing the normal rotation is fine
So we getting legion remix possibly???
newbie question here-
i already have the full blood token set (with two pieces bought with conquest to transform them into set gear), but honor trinkets
should i buy the two pieces that would be set pieces, and go from 636 to 639?
or change trinkets from honor to conquest?
I haven’t seen anything about it
Wouldn’t doubt it like after plunder storm next year
Prolly get trinkets first yes
ah thank you, they appeared to be the highest jump
Ye the difference is pretty big
Forged Glad isignia of alacrity and the mandatory medallion is what i use
I’m assuming we’re going to get MoP classic next which unironically might be popular
If you only play assa or outlaw that’s fine
Some people use conq neck or 1 conq ring
Isn’t that for the Warcraft 2 remake
And the 30th anniversary of Warcraft
Might be but the Reddit post that was on was talking all about legion remix
i mean that neck alone does look great
probably even cheaper to do it this way, even if i'm JC as profession
Naw it’s about vers not gold
aaah gotcha
If you run full crafted pieces other than tier set pieces, you’d end up pretty low on vers
neck, rings and trinkets are the only thing still in honor tier
hm probs best if i just spend conquest changing all of those into conq
Should use minimum 1 crafted ring if not 2
i see
I’d double check murlok and see what people are doing
oh that's what i've been learning to use yea!
A post from blizzard or some random
If they were planning on doing Legion remix this soon they’d come out and announce it
you mean these statistics?
Very new to retail. Legit just got the expansion today. I've mained a rogue through all of Vanilla (up to Wrath) and then all of Classic. I'm going to main a rogue again.
- Is outlaw the new PvP spec? or is it still Sublety?
- I love the look of the new Nightborn race, are they good for PvP? or is there a best race for PvP?
Yea
There is no such thing as a pvp spec
Some rando but I’m saving this to see if it becomes true lol
i wanna war1 remake
tbh
because it will be fully changed to be adapted
Night elf is generally the best pvp race by a long shot
There's no PvP spec anymore?
luckily no
It’s all 3
No
we can play as we want

Interesting. I assume there's a ton of changes to how rogues work since... Firelands.
Yep
Because currently, assassination sucks for PvP, because you can't build up poisons at all
in retail?
What
In Firelands
Yea, cata, I can't even remember what xpac
Well, I kinda am talking about retail
Just that I have a lot to figure out, because the class seems to play differently
a lot of the very basic mechanics are similar
but the nuance has changed a thousand times since back then
Yea, it seems that way, the rotation doesn't look TOO different
Sinister, backstab, eviscerate, vanish. Same ole stuff lol
Yeah all 3 are great. It really just depends on which one you enjoy playing. Everyone says outlaw is trash but that doesn’t stop the law players on here from hitting 2.4
Does the Nightborn racial that snares enemies work in PvP?
ye but why would you pick the race just for that when NE is the right choice that
Because horde.
Too true
why 2?
the pvp ring is more vers slanted isnt that better?
speaking from outlaw perspective ig
those of you who play sub, do you run 2 vanishes or thistle tea?
a lot of assa/sub play 2 vers/mast crafted rings
some assa's play 1 craft 1 conq
for 2v2 just play with any healer
is that in blitz?

yeah thats in blitz
this warrior Fregar told this boomy Lunartic that he was padding
so he proceeded to do that all game
me and the boomy clapped the EFC and he went off on war for like 5 min straight lol
aff is good too
LOCKED UP #3
LETS GO
best twin peak of my life
we won 2-2 capped with 5 seconds left
got the achieve win a twin peaks after being down 0-2 lol
Nasty lol
That’s intense
About to be get back at it now
5-3 for the weekend buncha bots in this bracket but I’m trying 😂
when are you guys using rupture in arenas on sub? in between setups?
sry my only contribution to this chat is newbie questions, appreciate all the answers
really been a godsend
you can use it as your first finisher in your burst window as well
if it isn't already on the target
using rupture->sec tech->evis->evis will keep your finality evis lined up with darkest night and give you danse macabre stacks
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