pvp

[safe pelican]

Gunna try trickster outlaw when i get home if 0 rating is gained going trickster we shall ostracize @vocal surge from the yellow mafia

[jaunty osprey]

pushed my main rogue to 2.4 3s yday

might try trickster vs fatebound outlaw on alt when i push it up this week

[vocal surge]

Trickster has +20% more damage on Flurry

Finally, I have gotten 4p

[potent pivot]

i need to farm a lot of conq to catch up my alts this week

[dapper chasm]

I tried tea and it's freaking lame

The end conclusion seems to be that tea is for losers

[potent pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-hatter-alice-in-wonderland-tea-disney-gif-14488220

[dapper chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-horrible-jason-sudeikis-tedlassogifs-tea-gif-20643812

[jaunty osprey]

just make sure u do bloody token wqs on alt

[potent pivot]

yeye

[jaunty osprey]

my alt rogue i made was full epics with only 2750/5500 conq

[potent pivot]

that and Sparks weekly are so OP for alts

[jaunty osprey]

especially before they hit 80

[potent pivot]

oh you do em pre 80?

[jaunty osprey]

yeah

Alts i might play in futuee

future* i just do the big bloody token wq if it’s up

I have 7 chars w capped tokens at level 70

[potent pivot]

[jaunty osprey]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/burning-crusade-timewalking-new-rewards-reins-of-the-amani-hunting-bear-349650?utm_source=discord-webhook

[potent pivot]

that's dope

[jaunty osprey]

new mount to afk on

[stoic spruce]

Trickster outlaw has more on demand kill pressure than fatebound

There I said it

[tribal badger]

thats like saying its the fastest snail in the snail race

maybe true

not all that important either way

[stoic spruce]

Idk about that. It's pretty noticeable sometimes.

Not so much into plate

[spring bough]

Fully geared out my sin rogue in one night 😂

[spring bough]

This where I’m just about at and I’m full 636/639 lol

[potent pivot]

yeah i'm basically full gear on rogue/feral/dk

i need to catch up one of my rogues a bit

starting on gearing warr/sham

[spring bough]

This new TBC vendor has some cool looking tabards. Bout to cop them when I get home. This war bear too

[potent pivot]

the Area 52 and Tranq tabards?

[spring bough]

Yup

[potent pivot]

yeah i saw em on wowhead

[strange jetty]

In blitz, when do you shadowy duel? Def feels like I’m missing something

Only uses I’ve seen are keeping enemy healers out of the fight but that only works if they’re already away, or enemy fc if you’re alone

Otherwise it seems better for your team to cleave your target

[candid tide]

nahh

[potent pivot]

...?

[candid tide]

bm hunter

[spring bough]

WOTLK timewalk has two more too. Can’t wait

[spring bough]

Yall know Elon Musk is ranked 19th on Diablo 4s leaderboards? 😂

[potent pivot]

duel is used to basically hide your target from healer, similar to bomb

you can use it defensively by dueling a healer to hide yourself

you can also duel a healer if your team mate is about to land a kill with their go

but generally it's used during your go like bomb

as CC on healer ends etc

[naive citrus]

anyone here who is an editor for the rogue pvp icy veins page? There's an error in the priority gear page. K'areshi Phantom's Emptiness (Head) is shown as the shoulder item where it should be the Shoulderpads instead:

[potent pivot]

it also doesn't list any crafted gear

[granite herald]

I am seriously tempted to try outlaw on my worgen in blitz next patch because it seems no one going for flag in warsong is still a thing and it hurts my soul

[jaunty osprey]

Yo if you guys want heavy mastery, low vers boots catalyst the bloody token boots

that’s what i’ve been doing - not many people do it

[proven field]

4x hook with 1M sprint is pretty solid - that's the entire WSG map. That being said, you are the squishiest FC ever

I rather just shame the healers into doing it

[granite herald]

it's more of a just in case people.... don't even try

[vocal surge]

^What pulse said

[proven field]

For fun I hit up a WSG - 4x Hook is basically from the alliance zerker hut to the horde front door

pretty fun but if one person even farts near you, you die

[wary thistle]

Off-cart duty in mines. Have def been pulled off a cart a few times by a sub rogue on my other toons

Unless I am mistaken, I think it removes the opponent from being seen by the cart

[strange jetty]

So treat it the same as arena? I once got flamed for dueling the healer in a teamfight but wasn’t sure I was in the wrong

[potent pivot]

yeah i mean there's multiple situations it can be used

a lot of the time people flaming others don't know what they're talking about

[jolly sierra]

like the fucker yesterday which asked me to use slow poison in a HC dungeon

[strange jetty]

For carts, I think it makes more sense to stay on them to cancel out points? Works well though for a last ditch effort to not die or if you are being cc’d off of them

Does anyone know if you can duel while you’re the fc?

[wary thistle]

yea if you're on your own then absolutely

[spring bough]

🦅

[wary thistle]

a specific situation that comes to mind is hitting an offcart on my MM hunter, ended up knocking the rogue off the cart, started ticking it to our favor, rogue caught back up and dueled me which helped them securely cap it

it was a solid play on their end

[jolly sierra]

played a blitz and a ret turned into the most toxic shit ever seen

trying to roost every guy replying

XD

[wary thistle]

lame

[jolly sierra]

its funny

how ppl is so toxic for a match

guy is in meth tho

seems like he tried to fastcheck

xd

[potent pivot]

this shit

is a game changer

swear i don't see anyone recommending to use this

[jolly sierra]

u know

in a shuffle (luckily won 4-2)

got a bear

guy just tried to 1 shot ppl with convoke

and sometimes resulted

xd

[potent pivot]

yeah feral convoke isn't bad either

it's just gimicky

[jolly sierra]

was guardian convoke

ye problem were the guys

this win was clean af

ironically the DH wasnt toxic here and actually cooperative

[wary thistle]

psychological reactance is a hell of a thing

especially in wow pvp

[jolly sierra]

ye lol

the funniest thing

got the rog which was just whining telling "iTs a lOSs u aRe JUSt pvEers plaYing Pvp" from the ret match

and died fast af

XD

[spring bough]

Base assault champ

[jolly sierra]

thank you grandmaster

[icy quail]

any assa rogue pvp guide for gear and stuff?

[potent pivot]

murlok.io

will show you what everyone is running

[crude lintel]

Murlok io is a good place to start looking. If you want any comprehensive, there isnt any

[icy quail]

can we use 2 of these?

[potent pivot]

ye

[spring bough]

Hell yes

[potent pivot]

some people use 1 conq ring anyway

because with too much crafted gear you end up kinda low on vers

[icy quail]

and for embelishments lens on feet and ring?

[potent pivot]

slot doesn't matter for embellishment

[icy quail]

i see

thanks boys , just want to get that 1800

[potent pivot]

glgl

if you got any questions, we here

[lethal yew]

yo what do you recommand as secondary stat for outlaw rogue in PVP? versa -> haste 8% -> crit?

[potent pivot]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[potent pivot]

you want 10% haste (in arena/pvp combat)

minimum

[lethal yew]

thaaanks

[potent pivot]

so like if you hit the pvp dummies, you want your haste from pvp gear to scale up to 10%

[spring bough]

This bronze increase has been incredible. Two tier sets down and already 10/20 for the third

[potent pivot]

forreal

[spring bough]

And I don’t do the quests everyday lol

[potent pivot]

i've got enough to buy my 2nd one

and almost 3rd

just from pretty passive playing

i just try to knock out some of the weeklies that gives 8-10-15

[spring bough]

Rogue Hunter and monk up next. Wish they removed the class restrictions

[spring bough]

World boss one pretty sure is 10 and took less than 10 minutes

[potent pivot]

i'm fine with some sets staying class only tbh

[potent pivot]

do i need to grab a quest before killing the WB for that one?

[spring bough]

It’s that weekly world quest in dornogal where you can pick which 4 or 5 quests to do

[rain beacon]

Have u guys tried kir in pvp

[spring bough]

Yes. It’s great sometimes and pretty rough most of the times

[potent pivot]

oh but don't you also have to kill rares for that one?

[spring bough]

It’s the 1 world boss 5 rares

[rain beacon]

I led an assault in alterac Valley this morning

[spring bough]

Just fly around the isle and you can find 5 pretty quickly

[icy quail]

focusing lens's dmg is increased based on how many sockets i have or its fixed?

[potent pivot]

it's fixed

[rain beacon]

Just need one gem right

Besides agility gem

[potent pivot]

yeah i just hate running around killing rares, i usually take the 'complete 6 WQs' one

but last week killing the world boss alone gave me like 10 tokens

with no quest

iirc

[spring bough]

Silver dragon and just fly over the rare nodes on your map and it’ll ping if it’s up. It’s so fast lol

There’s always 5 rares on the isle so you don’t have to go to another zone

[rain beacon]

From all of the chests I've opened in pvp, not a single bloody. Do they still drop from pvp chests?

[potent pivot]

they are rare

[rain beacon]

I had a match where everything was on cd and this priest was low hp

Ks got me the kb

Kinda funny

[spring bough]

the best when you hit KS and watch the health melt away

[potent pivot]

yeah the world boss alone gives 8

[spring bough]

so thats 18 from that and the quest lol

crazy

[rain beacon]

What do you even buy with the tokens

[spring bough]

updated tier 2 mogs, old mounts

some cool mogs

[rain beacon]

Oh I should go buy some old mounts then

[lethal yew]

whats ADR btw?

[rain beacon]

I didnt like the mogs

[potent pivot]

adrenaline rush

[jolly sierra]

i wanna the ony whelping

lost it like 15 years ago

cuz i just played trial accs

[vocal surge]

mfw someone embellishes my crafted boots

https://tenor.com/view/marriage-story-adam-driver-angry-punch-wall-pissed-off-gif-16841895

[lethal yew]

last question: 2x sword or sword+dagger?

[spring bough]

Blood dk in shuffle so troll

[jolly sierra]

ye

got a very shitty match against 1

[spring bough]

this one is 2030

unreal

He just won me a round with a 1.23m death strike KB

[potent pivot]

sword or axe mainhand and dagger offhand

you can do 2 sword/axe

dagger offhand is slightly better

[vocal surge]

rip gold

[spring bough]

oh wow rated arena weekly is 15 bronze

lets go

8 for 1k honor from skirmish too

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[spring bough]

then he killed me the next round with a 2.7mil death strike

fun stuff

[jolly sierra]

how is ur match going btw

[spring bough]

4-2 and 2078 in shuffle now lol

[rain beacon]

Last night I fought priest, sham, ret pal and they had just cc me the entire time.

What do guys

Skirmish

Everytime I got someone low they would cc me for a good 5 mins.

[jolly sierra]

thought the blood dk match could be worse lol

[vocal surge]

depends on what hero tree you want to do

[marble kelp]

Might be a dumb question but should I play disarm against a bm hunter?

[potent pivot]

no it doesn't

[vocal surge]

[lethal yew]

by the way, is trickster good? I saw many fatebound outlaw

[potent pivot]

it's not bad

just considered worse than fatebound by most

[lethal yew]

fatebound looks awesome especially for the mobility

[potent pivot]

yeah

quadruple hook is very sick

[spring bough]

4-0 into fifth round…. And this paladin healer that was 3-1 quit……

[jolly sierra]

xddd

[spring bough]

18 short of duelist as a sin rogue 😭

[vocal surge]

Ye, Trickster good

Me and Sinnen on a spree in 2s again

Poor restro druid and mage couldn't do anything

we both dodged Ring of Frost before it was casted

[marble kelp]

I was 2 short of duelist and got a 0-6 round 😦

[spring bough]

Outlaw sin combo for 2s is overpowered 😂

Healers dropping like flies

[vocal surge]

^

Giga burst with a ramp burst

and silence = deadge

[spring bough]

WTB garrote aoe silence type ability for outlaw

Yall sin boys got this shit ez lmaoooooo

[languid ravine]

there is AoE blind with big range

you should use that everytime you have a feral affli or assa in team

[jolly sierra]

HOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHITHOLYSHIT

YES IF THIS SUCCEED WE WILL HAVE WAR 1 REMASTERED

[languid ravine]

they cant call it reforged anymore kekw

remember reforged

that was good drama

peak cinema

[jolly sierra]

hope they sells it for sale

so i can buy the collector dirty cheap

[jolly sierra]

warcraft iii

R E F U N D E D

[mortal jay]

Is my mindset wrong? I am so focused on ensuring I have the buff, forget what it’s called. Hero buff for assassination from ambush up, that I will sometimes waste a vanish to get it. This leaves me in a bad spot defensively sometimes. Should I be ignoring this buff entirely until dampening/actual kill attemtp?

[potent pivot]

you shouldn't be ignoring it entirely naw

you want to get it up in your opener by using an ambush during your Subterfuge

then you can reapply the Mark by consuming the Darkest Night buff with a max combo point Envenom

[mortal jay]

I’m assuming this is responding to me ? How do I see what this person typed ?

[jolly sierra]

u blocked trickz

xd

[potent pivot]

...

[mortal jay]

I don’t use discord for anything other than this discord really

[jolly sierra]

ye, he is replying u btw

[mortal jay]

How I see it. Using discord on phone

Avoiding doing any actual work at my job.

[jolly sierra]

u can read them by touch

at least in my phone is like that

but tbh just watching i have blocked messages makes me mad

[mortal jay]

He and I can’t speak. Always ends badly.

[jolly sierra]

gosh

let me copypaste then

you shouldn't be ignoring it entirely naw
you want to get it up in your opener by using an ambush during your Subterfuge
then you can reapply the Mark by consuming the Darkest Night buff with a max combo point Envenom

its enough w that?

[mortal jay]

I mean yeah. I understand the buff. How it’s applied and reapplied. But I feel like I’ve lost my focus on spread damage because I’m hesitant to switch targets. I’ve started “training “ mages around poles and crap rather than switching to the warrior on my arse

[jolly sierra]

as personal experience and advice from high rated players

u should hit that warrior in the road

while u are in the chase

[mortal jay]

In arena are we still meant to bleed everything that moves intol a cc chain presents itself?

[jolly sierra]

ye, ccs gives us the W

[mortal jay]

Right. I used to bleed everything. Spam fok and try to bait a war or lock into los their healer blind healer. Step kidney my kill and smoke bomb. Lately I’ve caught myself looking for big millions pretty numbers with envenom too much

[jolly sierra]

ye, try mixing KB too

it works w envenom

[mortal jay]

I’ve gotten super frustrated in solos. Got to 2060. Then slowly but surely dropped to 1500

[jolly sierra]

some guys mixes it with cold blood

[jolly sierra]

OOOOOFFF

that happened to me a lot in DF

in a moment my brain was like bot mode retaking the rating

[mortal jay]

I don’t run cold. My actual kill attempt is kidney kill target vanish garrote ambush rupture death mark shiv kingsbame

Shiv probably in the wrong order there but eh

I feel like my mindset is screwing me more than exact keypressess

[languid ravine]

but how I dont think I ever dropped more than 200 on any spec

[mortal jay]

I had no less than 4 1/5 matches in a row. After that, I was so screwed and tilted. I kept changing things trying to fix it. Oh I got stunned after healer sap and team was still hiding behind pole on other side? Ok. No more rushing in and being first to open.

Oh I got literally 1 shot, 1 keypress by a devoker? I’ll blow cloak 3 seconds into match

Etc and so forth.

[jolly sierra]

ye shiv is after the kidney

[languid ravine]

cloak vanish first global, classic solo shuffle experience

[jolly sierra]

bad streak and tilting

when i got tilted i insist in playing and i drop

because im not thinking well

im like that kiddo u slapped back in the day in kindergarten and chases u hard even when the teacher stops him

because how mad he is w what have u done

[languid ravine]

I think the best mindset is you play as good as you possibly can 99% of the time, but you also have to watch your teammates at the same time and not judge them because they either get it or not, and you wont be able to teach them weeks, months or years of experience in 30 seconds before the round starts :d

[mortal jay]

At this point I question everything. Is my warrior rushing in the second the gate opens because I’m NOT supposed to sap the healer? Is my healer choosing to stand in the open and am I the one out of position trying to los the mage and catch a heal

[jolly sierra]

ye, is not adviced to play when u are tired or mad

[potent pivot]

you should always kinda try to get a sap, sometimes you don't get one because shuffle is shuffle

[jolly sierra]

but im stubborn so ironically sometimes doesnt follow that advice myself

[jolly sierra]

"you should always kinda try to get a sap, sometimes you don't get one because shuffle is shuffle"

[languid ravine]

on the flipside sometimes you get an extra sap from people dropping combat

win some lose some

[mortal jay]

I have rounds where I push 650 k. Then the next round, because it’s someone with more mobility and I end up training them but no uptime in target. I have 200k damage

[jolly sierra]

ye that depends of a lot of factors

if healer is cced
if u dont get cced
if they are stacked
if they are awfully positioned
if they have no trinkets

and so

[mortal jay]

In all fairness to myself, I hit a vanish sap off my mages sheep, into a smoke bomb kidney kill on my kill target today. First time I ever pulled it off mid fight before lol

[potent pivot]

my pally looking like ghost rider

[languid ravine]

MURRICAAA

[jolly sierra]

HOLY SHIT

I HATE U BOTH UR MOTORCYCLE AND EXCLUSIVE OFFERS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[mortal jay]

I don’t use arena 1 2 3 targeting either. I’m too old to pull it off so tab targeting makes it tough

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/rare-reeeeee-dank-meme-triggered-gif-24062717

[lime oar]

I need that

[jolly sierra]

if u are american u can

if not u can reeee w me

[potent pivot]

You can get it

[jolly sierra]

did it gets through a code?

[potent pivot]

Yeah

[lime oar]

I’m in Canada BUT I’m going to Texas for work tomorrow you already KNOW I’m buying some

[jolly sierra]

well

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[potent pivot]

It’s sorta cheap

[jolly sierra]

trickz 🙂 help me with a code pleeeeeeeeeeease? 😄

[potent pivot]

Like 15 bucks or so I think

[jolly sierra]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[potent pivot]

But I had some points spare

[jolly sierra]

depends of promo extension

[potent pivot]

It’s until January I think

Not sure

[jolly sierra]

(and how reilable is that i got scammed sometimes w offers after giving money by paypal)

[lime oar]

How does the promo work? Is the mounts guaranteed or do I have to keep buying mtn dew til I’d get it lol

[potent pivot]

Ye it’s guaranteed

[jolly sierra]

so im skeptical af

well u are the head here

i suppose

i can rely on u lol

suppose

[potent pivot]

If you see the promo on the 12pack. Certain 12packs are 500pts, some special ones are 1000pts. The bike is 600pts.

[potent pivot]

Sure I don’t mind either way

I think the other eu Ravenholdt guys already have something set up to get theirs

[jolly sierra]

nah its for past traumas, i recall once i send someone money for cinema to get the warcraft movie items before were given for free in wod and the fucker forgot i existed

[potent pivot]

Damn

[jolly sierra]

in another time for a guy which mades a book i was interested and send him money just for his pdf guy just sent me

👍

👍

👍

see

why i distrust ppl w that

lol

[spring bough]

I’ll get u the code from a 12 pack at a price 😏

[potent pivot]

Yeah I’m the same way with ppl idk irl

I’m just disappointed in the promo tabards on this one

[spring bough]

I’m in love with this rocket ship tabard

[potent pivot]

They just look like plain crafting profession tabards or something

[potent pivot]

I heard websites are selling them for like $100 lmao

Replied to the wrong msg

[spring bough]

For the 12packs??? Ohhh about to become a wow millionaire

Where my EU players at 😂

[potent pivot]

the codes for the items

[jolly sierra]

will u scam me? XD

sorry im distrustful af

[spring bough]

Do yall sin players get hardo when you win matches from aoe silence??

God it feels so good smoking these casters like that lol

[spring bough]

Lmao I’m just messing 😆

[jolly sierra]

welp, could be interested tho

if u can get it cheaper than trickz lol

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

Opening my Amazon store tomorrow

When I get stock 😂

[potent pivot]

i'm only seeing 1 tabard on this vendor

[jolly sierra]

stonks

[spring bough]

The other ones from wrath

[potent pivot]

damn that's like 3 weeks away

what's the fastest way to farm the uhhh

timewalking badges

[trail sigil]

how is outlaw for non-arena pvp?

[potent pivot]

it's good

[jaunty osprey]

Go back to a few weeks ago when the quest wasn’t 1 time completion per warband and do it on all of ur alts

[potent pivot]

yeah i remember they changed that shit

i never do timewalking shit so i barely had enough to get the azure worldchiller

so i need a lot

[spring bough]

The tranqiullen tabard is horde only

[potent pivot]

ahhh

[gleaming pawn]

Doesn’t the azure world chiller drop from the world bosses

[potent pivot]

idk

oh ye

the anniversary world bosses

[spring bough]

say hello to ur newest duelist sin rogue lol

[potent pivot]

ez

[spring bough]

59-41 only 100 rounds lol

[jolly sierra]

gratz

so its the pilot not the gear here

[icy quail]

got it boysss, back to pve now xD

[spring bough]

I hit rival in 3/4 of greens with no conquest weps 😂

[jolly sierra]

gratz

[jolly sierra]

XD

[spring bough]

Guess it’s time to keep pushing lol

[jolly sierra]

are u sure without gear? u are crossing close to the mglad line

[spring bough]

I’m fully geared now lol

[wary thistle]

very nice, grats dude

[spring bough]

🦅

[vocal surge]

[vocal surge]

ez

[spring bough]

How did you post that so fast

[vocal surge]

Hmm?

[spring bough]

Literally finished the match I open this and you already posted it 😂

[vocal surge]

Lol

Print Screen go brrr

[potent pivot]

got a lil lucky farming mog

[vocal surge]

Authority of the Depths did 0 damage

2.6% for me

But this madlad enemy rogue got his Authority of Radiant Power to be in his top 3 damage

[potent pivot]

gotta be completely honest

both of those damage breakdowns look scuffed

[vocal surge]

its Rated 2s

usually Depths appears near the bottom of the list

[spring bough]

Already up to 4 gem sockets on this alt 😂

[mortal jay]

Is full conquest an overall net plus over conquest plus mastery based bloody token gear?

[lime oar]

When tf is conq uncapping

[mortal jay]

Dunno :(. I’ve got 4 pieces of bloody. 2 pieces of crafted and everything else is conquest. Just curious if I should replace a piece of bloody each week

[lime oar]

I’d just slowly do whatever murlok io assa says. My gear is fully optimized for sub and I’m shredding on assa. Doesn’t really matter

[potent pivot]

yeah

we will replace all our bloody token gear

[lime oar]

Like I just spent 700 conq on the other trinket cuz I had badge for sub. Whatever

[potent pivot]

with mostly crafted gear

[potent pivot]

you can play badge on sin homie

unless you're playing law then nvm

[lime oar]

I do sometimes switch to law.

But I’m not super worried about min maxing having the best gear asap. I’m full 636/639 It’ll uncap and I’ll get bis for both specs

[waxen meteor]

wait what is this mount!

[potent pivot]

yeah buying the other trinket now is nbd

[potent pivot]

one of the new promo items

from the mountain dew/doritos promo in NA

[vocal ginkgo]

can we buy it right now?

[potent pivot]

ye check out the wowhead post about it or mtndewgaming.com

[vocal ginkgo]

awesome ty

[spring bough]

going to craft some verse/mastery daggers lol

[potent pivot]

i'd recommend getting everything else situated first but you do you :p

[spring bough]

oh i do i got all the other slots filled. actually capped so i can only make 1 wep now lol

sitting at 16k mastery lol

[potent pivot]

what all wpvp items are you using?

[spring bough]

gloves and belt

[potent pivot]

the rest full conq/crafted?

[spring bough]

yup

[potent pivot]

including trinket set?

[spring bough]

all mastery/verse

yup lol

[potent pivot]

wait why wpvp gloves

what about tier

[spring bough]

i have the other slots as tier lol

[potent pivot]

oof

[spring bough]

i just followed the crowd on murlok lmao

most using wpvp gloves and tier chest

[potent pivot]

ah u right

it swapped around

[spring bough]

chest has big verse

[potent pivot]

everyone was going crafted helm > rest tier

ye chest was always taken

[simple python]

[potent pivot]

?

[vocal surge]

Radiant Power hitting like a truck

[potent pivot]

why are we posting every breakdown

[vocal surge]

Sorry

Im over here going

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

Every time we beat a healer team as duo dps in 2s

[waxen meteor]

Let me google it... looks very sexy...

btw, what do we get this week? just upgrade glove from world pvp to conquest?

[potent pivot]

if you have everything else done ye

[spring bough]

Every time we kill a healer before their dps this is me 😂

1800s in 2s as outlaw/sin is fun asf

[jaunty osprey]

ok

alt rogue back up

[spring bough]

That’s fire. That’s assassin?

[jaunty osprey]

ya

[spring bough]

My alt sin coming for it 😆

[potent pivot]

man

myslot is actually goated

[lime oar]

Myslot is amazing

[potent pivot]

yeah i just installed it and used it to set up my alt feral

definitely going to make use of this shit in the future

[vocal ginkgo]

what is that?

[potent pivot]

it's an addon you can use to save all of your keybinds, actionbars, etc

[lime oar]

Copies absolutely everything about ur ui

[potent pivot]

so you can easily import them to a new char/account

[vocal ginkgo]

ohhh shit I need that asap

[potent pivot]

oh macros too

actually saves so much damn time lol

and any time you swap stuff on one char, you can just copy those changes over to the alts as well

it's only really useful if you play multiple characters of the same class though

if you only alt different classes then there's already a way to have all your keybinds saved

[inland forum]

What addon/WA is doing your buff tracking above your action bars like that?

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

Sin is so OP for blitz

Bombed a flag the defended it against two casters with aoe silence 😆

[potent pivot]

It’s no mage tower form, but it’s still dope

[waxen meteor]

quite good

druid too

honestly clone cap is crazy too

especially clone has no cd

[kind quartz]

have they decided if they are gonna let outlaw have quadruple grapple hook in flag bg's or did it get their mobility nerfed into the dirt yet?

[potent pivot]

i'm kinda doubtful that it'll get nerfed tbh

mw is a healer and was far more broken

[kind quartz]

the ground coverage is absolute insanity i'm surprised they let it be

since it mogs the distance of the two healers that had good mobility

[potent pivot]

mw could fly across half the map in the stratosphere

[kind quartz]

relies entirely on ledge dash momentum

[potent pivot]

rogue is kind of a squishy FC

[kind quartz]

otherwise i'm not impressed by it

[potent pivot]

huh

you talking about the mistweaver thing i'm talking about?

did you ever see it? lol

[kind quartz]

mw has to have a ledge to torpedo off of or their distance is complete crap compared to pres evoker

done it

[potent pivot]

i'm talking about pre nerf mw

nothing in the game even comes close to what they were doing a couple weeks ago

[kind quartz]

i've had a mist since panda back when i was invulnerable and undisruptable spamming healing orbs

unless they were doing bug abuse they just have torpedo and either the clash talent which needs an enemy or the extra little hop from jumping during that then dash and spirit swap with a little tiger lust in there

[potent pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIqoilMSo8Q

[kind quartz]

certainly didn't abuse that but in normal play it's inferior to pres evo

[potent pivot]

they could torpedo like 6x

[kind quartz]

but both of those suck to the ground distance of grapple

[potent pivot]

nah

[kind quartz]

they are better because they are durable

[gilded gulch]

rogue refugee mog

[kind quartz]

but if you just don't get touched you go way further

[potent pivot]

the torpedo thing was game breaking

[kind quartz]

it's literally reliant on ledge fling

[potent pivot]

it doesn't matter

you can stop an outlaw on it's hook

[kind quartz]

pres evo's strength comes from their mobility being irritatingly unstoppable but that implies they went slow enough to have enemies on them

[potent pivot]

then they also lose their free hook

[kind quartz]

not wrong but also just go so fast you don't get stopped or intercepted

[potent pivot]

idk

i think calling for it to be nerfed is just weird

[kind quartz]

but yeah plenty of times my grapple randomly fizzles

i just throw it and nothing happens

[potent pivot]

outlaw has 1 niche thing making it okay to play in blitz

before this it wasn't necessarily top end viable

[kind quartz]

i ain't calling for it to be nerfed at all

it's just expected

i expect nothing good ever

[potent pivot]

[kind quartz]

the world isn't good

[stoic spruce]

One root and it's joever for outlaw hooking spree

[kind quartz]

they take away shadow step which idc and funnel all the crack in the world in my chains

and suddenly i can go 4 football fields in a couple of seconds

beat every single other class to any objective in a bg

go fast enough to get uncontested BS on start

i fully expected them to shit all over that

[potent pivot]

i think there's only one map where it's actually a little problematic

eots iirc you can beat the enemy team to their own base?

[kind quartz]

[potent pivot]

if they don't rush there expecting it

once they see an outlaw on the other team they should expect it and rush it i think

[safe pelican]

Yes yes good morning brothers

Outlaw talk in the morning yes yes

Continue before I quit this trash spec, after last nights blitz outlul run 1 of three things are apparent. Either I suck, My teammates in blitz suck, Or Outlaw sucks.

I need to know how to play this spec on every bg map explain it to me like I’m a 5 year old 🫠😐

[spring bough]

🦅

Gonna be an AMAZING DAY TODAY BOYS

[stoic spruce]

You'll be fine

[orchid plinth]

• Outlaw does not suck.
• You can't really do anything about your teammates.
• Than only leaves you practice, practice, practice!

[candid tide]

whaazz play outlaw too

and he literally have to be perfect to win

[safe pelican]

Your math almost mathed there BUT.. me not being able to hand pick my teammates doesn’t excuse or change the fact that they may in fact suck

& I 2nd what Oji said Whaazz was playing outlaw the other day and I’m not even talking down but he wasn’t doing to hot which now put the spec under scrutiny 🧐 NOT saying i can’t play it better because i do need to learn how to play the spec itself in bgs better

[safe pelican]

No I won’t 😑 If I don’t win at least 5 blitz games today it’s a wrap for the Yellow tribe, 5 wins that’s it no matter how many queues it takes as long as i get it before bed lmao

[orchid plinth]

If you want to improve you need to focus on improving instead of winning. You can generally learn more from the matches you lose but using your teammates as a scapegoat is a great way of not doing that.

You are going to lose some matches by default. Just as you are going to win some matches by default.

[stoic spruce]

It's a wrap for you. I'm doing fine lololol

Me

Also me

[neat torrent]

I can't believe how important keeping blade flurry and role the bones is for outlaw. I downloaded a weak aura to prompt me to press them and I went from always doing bottom damage to top damage.

Just an FYI for any new outlaw rogues like me haha. Buffs are good 😂

[hidden dome]

Feels good, time for my next char

[orchid plinth]

0 to 1800 in 1 game

[stoic spruce]

Now post your current season

[hidden dome]

eh, not too good

had a losing streak in the middle

[safe pelican]

😂😂😂

[stoic spruce]

Huge respect for actually posting

Ain't no way in hell I would lol

[spring bough]

Outlaw is 👑

Big pumper numbers

[safe pelican]

It’s not bad in arena bro i actually kinda like it there tbh i found myself saying that while running 2s to get my conq gear finished up

But i picked the class up JUST for blitz and have been getting cooked in blitz bgs

KS is dope feels too good to hit that button

[spring bough]

It’s good in blitz on flags and even flag carrying. Try to focus solely EFCs in flag carry games

Stun lock up that EFC

[safe pelican]

Watching RBG tips and tricks etc videos all day at work lol I’ve been playing this whole time without Battleground Enemies 🦦🤡

Keep getting Eots or arathi and my team just loses all the fights when i focus the EFC i feel like they just get infinite heals cause no one is focusing the healers i feel more effective focusing the healers cause once i kill one with a sensible teammates help in a kidney window the tide turns cause it’s 1 healer against 2

When i fight EFC they never die or my team is hella spread out but done complaining lol see what happens today

[spring bough]

For base games. Try to steal one. That is usually all your team needs and you can help lock a W

[languid ravine]

Imagine playing the biggest MMO and its UI is so bad you have to install 12 addons to make it functional that would be hilarious thank god we dont live in such a stupid world though but like imagine

imagine it is that way for 20 years

just hypothetically

[normal swift]

is authorithy of the depth the best enchant for sin rogue in pvp ? or is it radiant power ?

[vocal surge]

From what I've seen

Depths kinda does little damage

Radiant Power has decent uptime

[proven field]

I gotta be honest I don't... hate Trickster as Outlaw

Although Coup de Grace is literal dogshit

for a bottom talent it is the absolute most underwhelming button ever

To the point where it's gotta be broken - doing half the dmg on avg that dispatch is doing when it should be double double

[stoic spruce]

That's not a hot take at all

A lot of people here play trickster

[proven field]

does coup ever work?

[stoic spruce]

Wdym?

[proven field]

Shouldn't it be hitting double a normal dispatch

[stoic spruce]

Maybe not double

[proven field]

like if I am hitting a 7pt coup, it should be hitting as a 12pt coup

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

[proven field]

but it hits like a poop de grace - half a dispatch at the most

[stoic spruce]

Are you sure? I know coup isn't that amazing but mine haven't been that bad.

[proven field]

I have some zoom calls coming up, I'll try it mindlessly for a bit on a dummy and get bigger number sets

so far it's... on avg 12.8% less both hit and crit than dispatch

but that's only 30 examples of each in my last BG

[stoic spruce]

While you're doing all that boring math and science stuff, I've come to a conclusion.

That's completely irrelevant

Twix is not a chocolate bar

[stoic spruce]

30 coups?

[proven field]

yeah; had to take two rounds to make it work so def not perfect, but enough hits and it would be fine

Coup probably hangs out with Death from Above - just laughing at being terrible and coded to be worthless

[stoic spruce]

My brain is telling me that's kinda low but I haven't actually paid attention to overall coup casts

I'd have to check myself

Hey DFA has uses, let's give credit where credit is due.

[safe pelican]

Poop De Grace sounds about right 🙂‍↔️

[stoic spruce]

Yeah undertuned for sure

But no one plays it for coup anyway

[earnest forge]

game is too quick now

and stuff like death from above feel like stayed in the wod dmg levels

and forgotten about

[stoic spruce]

It's moreso about gap closing and root breaking/Iframe. Not dmg.

[proven field]

DFA has sucked since... god forever maybe

with the animation it's probably a net dps loss at this point

[marble kelp]

I used it the other day just as a lock ported behind a pillar and i went right through the pillar to hit the lock.

[stoic spruce]

He gets it

Makes hunters much easier to touch

[orchid plinth]

DFA is cool because you can use it to "immune" stuff and follow ports etc like just mentioned.

[stoic spruce]

We love iframes

[spring bough]

Every time I outlaw it pops off. Coup gets close to a milly. KS average cast is 2 million. I don’t understand how yall not seeing it lol

Shit BTE even crits and hits in the 1-1.8million range now too

[grave basin]

holy fucking pog

im free

from that cursed place

[marble kelp]

I lost 20 mmr because i had one win and someone rage quit half way through. I think if someone rage quits in shuffle no one should lose mmr.

[spring bough]

20 years in the making. Amazing

[halcyon timber]

Coup had an immunity too. That was the whole reason for the extended gcd as dfa did without leaping.

[vocal surge]

My avg Coup hits over 2 times harder than my average Dispatch

[halcyon timber]

Yeah all about flawless form rolling

Good stuff

[vocal surge]

538k Coup Average vs Dispatch's 218k

Quite literally x2.5

On top of getting so many Flawless Form stacks

[halcyon timber]

Lots of fun for sure

[vocal surge]

Another game

my coup did 466k damage and Dispatch averaged 96.5k

[halcyon timber]

Def liked the immunity skill shot to it

[vocal surge]

635k vs 114k Average

I consider all 3 hits combined as the average rather than the individual numbers

[halcyon timber]

Good testable measure true to research

[vocal surge]

because Coup is 3 attacks

[halcyon timber]

Yeah i dig that too

[vocal surge]

If looks weak if you look at the 1st attack because the 1st attack of Coup is the weakest

Always

Even if you double coup in a coup window with max combo point

[halcyon timber]

Yeh it escalates

[vocal surge]

and Supercharger as well

that 1st coup hit is nowhere near as strong as the 2nd or 3rd

[halcyon timber]

I like the filthy unseen blade hits rolling too

[vocal surge]

Aye

I swapped to radiant Power for enchant lol

it's nuking

300k - 600k damage when it procs

[halcyon timber]

Tempted to give storms another shot

[vocal surge]

Aye

But ye, not only is Coup the strongest ability of Trickster Outlaw

[halcyon timber]

Radiant is 2ppm? I think yeah

[vocal surge]

Ye

It is a gap closer and a Damage amplifier

[halcyon timber]

Shit is sick

Ff getting another amp from cdg is cool and ks /st

[vocal surge]

Aye

It is nasty bursting people for over 2/3rds of their hp

[halcyon timber]

Finding our anti parry isn’t consistent still though

[vocal surge]

in just an opener of 4 GCDs

our Anti Parry does not work

[halcyon timber]

Sometimes works sometimes no worky

[vocal surge]

The only time it does "work" is because we succeeded the hit roll against the odds of the parry mechanic from DbtS

vs Fist of Fury which is a 100% parry, no work

[halcyon timber]

Usually just dismantle them before anyway

[vocal surge]

Yee

[lime oar]

I have touched down in Texas

Where tf the mtn dew at

[vocal surge]

Walmart

[lime oar]

Hell yeah

[halcyon timber]

Glad you landed safely dude

[vocal surge]

^

[halcyon timber]

Lots of bozos about

[lime oar]

Thank you. Actually yeah just dawned on me probably a sketchy time to fly lol

[halcyon timber]

Got my dayntless cat last night. Only mount i really really wanted

[halcyon timber]

No sweat man. People are weird af lately

[vocal surge]

Its my own personal WA

But it is made using Weakauras

[surreal barn]

Why does this shit have to be mnt dew

It couldn’t be Gatorade could it

[molten hedge]

@potent pivot im gearing a 2nd assa. is there someone i can refference for gearing? looks like lots of different crafted pcs vs set and all that

one of my friends said he goes higher vers and less mastery bc he thinks it helps survivability and dmg more. but idk most assas go heavy heavy mast 40-45% and just below 20% versa

[gleaming pawn]

When you’re looking at murlok or even armory, those numbers are not pvp scaled. Most assa rogues are sitting at around 27% vers in pvp

Pros like Trill say we want as close to 30% vers in pvp as we can, which would require gemming for vers/mast instead of mast/vers

[molten hedge]

yea i meant out of pvp

i have my 3 heraldry

but i made the mistake of crafting the wrong pieces and gearing wrong on my main assa

not a huge diff but still wanna do it right this time

[gleaming pawn]

Eh could have just waited a couple weeks for uncapped conq instead of leveling and gearing another Rogue, but to each their own

The conq boots suck, and are an easy target for a crafted piece with the dusk lining (vers above 80%)

Belt as well, or can be wrists. Doesn’t really matter. The stat differences are negligible

[molten hedge]

i wanted a new W/L 😄

[languid ravine]

Chromies Codex? more like Chromies Nothanks amirite guys thanks for coming to my comedy special

[gleaming pawn]

I just queue up as a healer and skip the wait, and semi afk because it’s a joke anyway

[vocal surge]

Did 1.5M DPS

[random timber]

For sin, is focusing lens x2 the meta? I see duskthread and ascendance being used now with the crafted dagger over the conquest dagger.

[molten hedge]

would it be better to craft one ring and boots or boots and dagger

im leaning ring and boots since i get 2 weps at 1600

[orchid plinth]

You get a Tier piece at 1600 not 2 weapons. Weapons are at 2500 conquest. Don't craft weapons yet imo.

[molten hedge]

oh ya lol that

[amber goblet]

anyone has a macro for not double casting symbols?

i have modifiers for different stuff like dance no symbols, dance symbols or like everything but it double casts symbols of death now 😦

[indigo hill]

Did they lower Outlaws damage?

[surreal barn]

I believe @potent pivot had one that worked

[spring bough]

No. They buffed it a few weeks back

[elder fossil]

you could setup a castsequence with a reset cooldown, i.e. /castsequence reset=5/target Symbols of Death, null
where 5 is the number of seconds to reset, add more null to get more "null" keypress

[spring bough]

After probably 50+ 2s games with our fellow outlaw Delusional Pirate. I only beat his damage a few times. And that was playing as Sin. Outlaw pumps lol

Either that or I’m terribad as sin 😂

[dapper chasm]

So how do we feel that the Trump being president thing will affect us rogues?

[amber goblet]

whats a null keypress?

[jaunty osprey]

it makes it so you can spam the macro for off gcd abilities that have several charges

And it only consumes 1

Dont overthink it

this is what pvers use for tea for example so it doesnt consume several charges

[amber goblet]

do i put it at the end or after abilities with charges?

[vocal surge]

I figured out how to do 1.5M DPS btw

[jaunty osprey]

Literally just copy the macro that was shared and replace the ability with the one you want to use

[spring bough]

🦅

[vocal surge]

Cleave off of a tank lol

especially Blood DK

[spring bough]

Big flurry

[vocal surge]

Tanks have a damage amp taken in PvP

which passively buffs our Blade Flurry damage

[fluid plover]

Do you guys think Sureki zealot's insignia 639 is worth it in pvp?

for outlaw/assa?

[safe pelican]

At last, on my way home to get beat on as outlaw in blitz

Watched over 3 hours of blitz tips and tricks and how to play each map if i don’t win some games tonight i refuse to hear it’s me and not the team 😑

I even wrote notes down how could we possibly fail 😵‍💫😤😶‍🌫️

[lime oar]

📈📈📈📈📈

[languid ravine]

How to fail: your teammate doesnt matter to cap the flag for a whole ass 9 seconds of the other guy stopping him being CCed

doesnt manage* but same difference

[lime oar]

I once had another rogue blow all of his CC cd’s and sap DR on a paladin while the node was still capped and then whispered me “how much more CC did you need to cap the flag?????”

[proven field]

Oh maybe that's what the problem is - it hits more like Fury Rampage - I'll need to build a little WA to show max dmg and watch that instead

[safe pelican]

Lmaoooo auto report

[safe pelican]

Don’t speak that bad juju on me

i need positive vibes 😎

[languid ravine]

I m just saying man I gained 200 from 1600 elo hell and people in 1800 are still lobotomized to the point that ONE healer is owning 4-5 people in my team

the juju is jinxed

no matter how hard you believe

[safe pelican]

My first night pushing outlaw went like straight to 1458 been losing ever since only been 2 days of play since then but both those have been shitty team days

All my teams were amazing day 1 there’s just no in between i don’t see a lot of COMPETITIVE blitz games it’s always one sided even when im on the winning team

[gleaming pawn]

Not at all, the cantrip is nerfed pretty heavily in PvP

[languid ravine]

well guys on the forums saying just keep grinding eventually you ll get into a playable bracket

its like those anime people that say it gets good after 40 episodes

[jolly sierra]

average isekai be like

[gleaming pawn]

Yeah, you just gotta get on some 15 game winning streaks. You’ll climb out of elo hell in no time

[safe pelican]

Lmao One Piece fans be like 🤣☠️

[jolly sierra]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF

[safe pelican]

Gametype just Needs better honor level and MMR management but i understand that would make the queues even longer and beggar’s can’t be choosers so it is what it is

[jolly sierra]

u are dropping a bomb here (ye i really hate one piece)

the facial expressions are cringe af and is way too long

have u seen them crying? fuck

[vocal surge]

THE ONE PIECE IS REAL

[dapper chasm]

We can joke

But the administration in charge WILL have an effect on Activision Blizzard

And that WILL have an effect on their IPs and things like staff

And that WILL then affect things like class balance

which in turn WILL affect rogues

[spring bough]

focusing lens just did 7% of my damage in the first round of my lobby lol

[dapper chasm]

Personally, I'm excited - Trump said "I love rogues, I always said I love rogues - when I came in here people said "He loves rogues" and it's true, I love rogues"

But I dunno, I get the feeling he mains a warr

[gleaming sentinel]

Still having a bit of trouble in 2s, outlaw kinda cranks healers and peels dps or what? I run with a disc. I can’t seem to find any resources to see some gameplay

[proven field]

DW radiant power?

leveled an outlaw alt and went 2x Authority of Air and it actually healed like a monster

I know it sounds dumb

https://tenor.com/view/dewey-duck-ducktales-ducktales2017-webby-vanderquack-ithaquack-gif-21609926

[vocal surge]

Fatebound or Trickster?

[gleaming sentinel]

I’ve only done fatebound so far

[vocal surge]

You should have the mobility to stun, gouge, and sap combo healer using Grappling Hook

Gotta use them CCs more often

[gleaming sentinel]

And kill dps, copy.

[lime oar]

I’m just curious to see the numbers

[gleaming sentinel]

Thank you, you are probably right

[proven field]

keep in mind this is just messing around - probably a terrible idea but it kept me going for a while

[spring bough]

assassin is fun in blitz. went EFC all game lol

overall from it lol

[jolly sierra]

got the shanker

[vocal surge]

I did it bois

3M DPS

[elder fossil]

😮

is outlaw at least fun to play with the ton of procs and buffs to maintain for sustaining damage?

[jolly sierra]

got the bear

[coral void]

feels like playing dance dance revolution tbh

[candid tide]

q times getting crazy

[vocal surge]

I barely think about buffs and procs

I just slam slam slam

and numbers go BOOOM

[jolly sierra]

peak of ret

[surreal barn]

Love it

Post it in xmog

[jolly sierra]

XDDDD

ppl will explode w that

@wintry dew post this in #transmog pls

[surreal barn]

I will give it a 100

[wintry dew]

arthas junior? xDD

[jolly sierra]

ye

[spring bough]

They have like an instant FULLSET bot or something in transmog channel

[wintry dew]

nah

im just that fast

fun fact

[jolly sierra]

any tips for alternatives for the set?

i say pieces to complement

nvm just posted it in transmog

[jolly sierra]

lets see how ppls reacts

[spring bough]

i raise ur tier 2 with my tier 2

[wintry dew]

i love judgment

xD

[jolly sierra]

i can raise it

[midnight grove]

god i love pandas

[spring bough]

Where the tier 2 at 😳😂

[jolly sierra]

shoulders, gloves, belt and boots

XD

[spring bough]

Lmao I’m joking cause of the bra n thong front and center 😂

[jolly sierra]

the thong is lit the underwear

just disabled the pants

lol

[midnight grove]

@jolly sierra heres a elf getting cow'd

[jolly sierra]

deserved for being an elf

[spring bough]

why do ques never pop on my hunter

[mystic raptor]

Whats the deal with some people taking recuperator supercharger forced induction on outlaw is it better than other alternative?

[spring bough]

is it cause so many BMs are out there

[proven mica]

Because you are fotm reroller

[spring bough]

lol i already got 2 rogues on the boards bored asf at this point

[midnight grove]

you dont really need the stuff on the left and supercharger stacks last forever

so if you are in world pvp you can just roll them up and have 7 supercharger combopoints

lets you burst people way harder

[mystic raptor]

Do you not face some energy issues in long arena fights?

i have around 15% haste

[midnight grove]

i play feral outlaw in area and we do alot of disengages on most of the popular comps like

forcing big cooldowns and both running away to wait them out

arena vs good players is mostly about high burst not sustained damage

[mystic raptor]

That sounds fun. I dont have an arena partner, so i am kinda forced to suffer thru shuffle.

[midnight grove]

solo shuffle is pretty awful for outlaw

but alot of spec 1v1s are about forcing cooldowns and using your superior mobility to just leave

heal up with flask and go back in

supercharger helps way better with that

[marble kelp]

anyone got tips for dealing with vokers as sin?

I had a shuffle where everyone wanted to focus devo and I couldn't catch it for the life of me

[mortal jay]

I don’t have it down yet but some things I’ve been doing. Be more sparing with shadowstep. Try to time it at the end of their little flighty move fast thing. Not in the middle. And try not to be a warrior. Don’t just mindlessly tunnel him across the arena non stop. If he is too far pull the other dps into a los of the evoker. Force the evoker to come back to you.

Think of him as a mage. If you mindlessly tunnel him you will have next to no uptime. Take advantage of sin ability to do spread pressure and damage

By doing pressure to everyone else out of Los of the evoker. In those lobbies we are almost as much of a “go/setup” class as sub

[jolly sierra]

save shadowstep for their glide and instakidney them

[wary thistle]

Even the devs hate BM's

[jolly sierra]

nah they hates rogs the most

[spring bough]

i get fast ques on the rogue

[wary thistle]

Tbh used to feel that way back in the day haha

[jolly sierra]

that is because u make forums alive

u are a needed evil

[proven field]

Frost DK and enh are never allowed to have fun

[wary thistle]

Yea dunno. I did blitz on my MM like a month ago and was fine, but yea even in the hunter discord people post about super long queues now

[proven field]

Prolly too many

Hitting a soft cap

[wary thistle]

Yea could see that. BM is all the rage currently

[languid ravine]

try death from above and/or fatebound for 2x shadowstep

but if you cant connect just pick the next best target lul

[stoic spruce]

do you think she'd like me? 👉👈🥺

[jolly sierra]

she is not into rotten skins

she said

[stoic spruce]

oh I misread that

even the chill of the freezing sea water is no match for a fair lass' sting

[marble kelp]

thanks

[stoic spruce]

rerolling

[spring bough]

What is that

[stoic spruce]

dk

[spring bough]

Leaving rogue behind? 😭

[stoic spruce]

buddy I already have a dk, just a new one lol

also, I aint missing much

crackshot

eh

[spring bough]

I’m leveling up a demo lock

[grave basin]

Samesies

Made an orc for max RP potential

[vocal ginkgo]

What’s a decent/good win rate % in solo shuffle??

[waxen meteor]

there's no answer for that

[molten hedge]

Above 50% lol

[lime oar]

When will Trump be reverting the kidney shot nerf?

[vocal ginkgo]

Soon

[vocal ginkgo]

Cool ty

[grave basin]

That's impossible to say

People aren't target dummies and depends on the situation / lobby

[dreamy marten]

so i hit 1800 in rbg blitz for the classic sets, why cant i buy the sets on my mage or other classes, i got achievement on rogue, its a warbound achievement but when i go to a52 to buy other sets i cant

i tohught it was warbound, it says i can make it warbound but then says i need the rating...i thought blizz changed this with patch

[safe pelican]

but how did you hit 1800 that is the question

how do i escape the 1300 bracket of doom

[dreamy marten]

i wouldnt have got on my rogue since the ally set is dogshit

[safe pelican]

see even when im on the winning team its a blow out smh

peak idiocy game type

[proven field]

There is no horde anymore

have not won a BG all day, or got a single box in WPVP; it's just an endless stream of ally 24/7

[grave basin]

If you play oceanic it's also your god given right as ally to get the war crates

I think since the start of Tww I've only lost the crate to horde one time

99 other times it's a complete blowout of 10:1 ally : horde

[stoic spruce]

I'm so

Freaking

Sick

Of crackshot

[viscid prairie]

Agreed. Can’t say I’ve lost a single one to horde, always outnumbered

[proven field]

1800+ on ladders according to drustvar

almost 2.5x

[proven mica]

is every pvp dummy laggy as hell or just the ones in dorn?

[lime oar]

I get a ton of lag on my abilities in dorn. I haven’t tried dummies elsewhere

Zero lag in bgs or arena, it’s just dorn

My ping is <20 too so it’s weird

[celest tusk]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-0-7-ptr-class-and-spell-changes-evoker-rescue-reverted-349679
Is this another nerf for Flagellation? 🤣

[potent pivot]

No

[celest tusk]

Oh ok.

I read pvp multiplier to 0.5

[potent pivot]

That’s already what it is on live

[celest tusk]

Ahh ok I thought it is for the 11.0.7 ok ty

[potent pivot]

That’s just them copying over changes that have been made to the live game onto the PTR

[celest tusk]

Got it ^

[potent pivot]

If it was another Flag nerf it’d say 0.5->0.25

[celest tusk]

Then I would break ma pc

😅

[stoic spruce]

Reroll game tbh

Trickz

I can't man

Outlaw is so flawed

Memelaw

Must be fixed

I'd go on a crusade but I need permission from the pope.

[gleaming pawn]

That's why you should play Sin, Popo. At least it's not Sub

[stoic spruce]

Yeah

Well

Yeah

I'm scared sub will be my guilty pleasure because it has a better dreadblades and I love dreadblades.

So I will not play that spec

[vocal surge]

For Outlaw, Supercharger + Forced Induction increases CDR and damage of our finishers enough to be noticable. This does stack better with Head coins from Fatebound or high Flawless Form stacks on Trickster.

[vocal surge]

I run no Vigor or Thistle Tea but when im constantly Vanishing and RTBing, I have a constant 45% Haste

[hidden moth]

so outlaw is the def leveling spec ye?

[potent pivot]

They all feel like shit for leveling

I like porting around with sub’s shadowstrike when leveling

[hidden moth]

mostly talking for the timewalking

[vocal surge]

Anyone else sense Outlaw got slower during Adrenaline Rush since Tuesday?

[potent pivot]

Like since before reset?

It felt fine to me last night

[vocal surge]

Got 2 solo shuffle matches back to back

and my GCD felt slower even during Adrenaline Rush

Noticed this because it became incredibly hard to double coup during Adrenaline Rush and my rotation felt slower than normal

[potent pivot]

could someone have used something to slow your attack speed maybe?

[vocal surge]

Maybe

[potent pivot]

i feel like spellqueue and combo points have been weird since 11.0.5

everything felt off especially the first week of the patch

[vocal surge]

Yep

Wouldn't be surprised we got bugged out

[indigo hill]

Is it me or is BM hunter OP?

[hybrid vessel]

can u use saltwater potions in rated bg?

[indigo hill]

Those things are all blocked in rated.

Same with regular potions and engineering tinkers.

[hybrid vessel]

ait 🙂 ye thought so just seen a few 'blast' macros with it

[hexed egret]

Can use the battle standard in Blitz still I think

as far as consumables go

[neat torrent]

Does anyone know why killing spree sometimes just ticks once or not even at all and goes on cd? I assume it has something to do with immunities or dodges on the enemy?

[potent pivot]

either that or bugs