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Supercharger wasn’t working on BtE for outlaw
So this doesn’t surprise me
Funny that it’s still working on Envenom though
Haha
downside is .... this tea nerf is TERRIBLE for assa omg you might as well play like sub
cause when you need it you prolly wont have it thats crazy
You should be pooling to stay above 50% energy anyway homie
The Tea change doesn’t change shit for sin
Not bad
is this something ppl do? i havent at all lmao
Yes loool
its more dps than mut or fok?
Sanguine Blades uptime is usually pretty good regardless
i just spam buttons til my target dies
But you shouldn’t be spamming abilities like a mad lad
On ST it’s a little less value
But yeah
Sanguine Blades is a powerful talent with bleed build
30% more bleed damage
If you’re on 3 targets you should be energy flooded
If they’re all bled and poisoned
true
There’s no immortal pvp dummies anywhere right?
The dummy instantly dying and always being under 35% is skewing the numbers from Zold
Nope
It’s annoying as fuck
You can talent out of Zold for the testing though
True
I know i knoW gotta
Work on that once i get my groove back rusty been on Hunter thank you for Le reminder 🐐 def forgot about pooling
Love going against sub on assa as a sub main it’s like a game of chess , i need him cloak and he needs my evasion + trinket it’s like the game doesn’t start between assa and sub until that happens always a cool rogue bro cult feeling in shuffle
Notable Rogue bugs for PvP 11.0.5
- Supercharger is not working on Eviscerate
- Supercharger does not seem to be working on Dispatch or Crackshot BtE
i'll add more later
Step kidney! through evasion conquers all
cheap cant be dodged so you don't need to step
ok actually very good point.
i fix

supercharger not working but something just delete these dudes at times
I haven't actually tried yet but is cheapshot also a second longer in pvp?
state of game right now is meme af
no
it's the same as it has been
Damn, i figured that would be the case. As 6sec cheap would be nuts.
What does eviscerate hit for now with the supercharger bug
like 3m ish max
play deeper strat/tea/vanish
Then no change for me haha
don't bother playing supercharger
Is this why some of us never hit 5m? Or is this much newer bug
this bug started today
good news guys, they fixed the bug with shadowed finisher not working with supercharger
:^)
This game is so bad lmfao
that looks like the Ascendance bug
they fixed the outlaw bug but not this?
kek
that bug wasn't as egregious in pve
ele is ridiculously overtuned
atm
but also bugged
so it's insane
in pvp
this game is in shambles 
or has it been in shambles already lol
there hasn't been a patch this fucked up since i came back to the game in SL
not that i can think of
has it always been bugged since tue?
no
nahh it started today
it started today with the outlaw hotfix
some people say they felt like they were doing less dmg yesterday
i didn't play sub much yesterday so not sure
but on launch day it was definitely working on the Phys dam of Evis
now it's only working on the Shadow
Finality currently only consumes the shadow dam part, they hotfixed rogue yday
Also supercharges dont work on evis
We lost 50% dmg
Sick
Good game rly
sometimes can just spam endless evis with shadowcraft
ánd then its nothing dudes can do
This might be a weird question but everytime I enter arena my mini map is gone and I cannot toggle it back on. Not even through settings or if I bind toggle on and off. Minimap is just gone but only in arena. Anyone know what the issue might be here or is there maybe some kinda script to bring it back? Can't find anything if I google it. Turning off addons doesn't help either.
that's weird
have you tried resetting your cvar settings
get AdvancedInterfaceOptions addon
and use it to reset all of your cvar settings
it will reset all of your default blizzard settings too
but that's the only way i can think of to try and fix your issue
I have not tried that no. Might be worth going for though. Layouts for action bars and bindings won't get reset, right?
i don't recall if they do or not tbh
do you use betterblizzplates or frames
Im playung supercharger on my outlaw and feels super good 🙂 i dont know xD i do a lpt more dmg xD
it doesn't buff bte damage
yes both of them
it's bugged for bte and evis
oh ffs, thank you! I've been looking and searching for so long
i didn't even know that existed
and i've been using BBF with the setting turned on

If my kingsbane application crits, do all the ticks then crit aswell? Is it more important to have master assassin at the start of kb or at the end ?
No they don’t
And technically the end but you mainly vanish for more big garrotes in pvp
So our evis should be hitting harder?
Huh
I’m still only getting like 1.6-2.8 evis
Check the pins
Oh ok I guess I meant to say has this been bugged since a hotfix or since the patch originally went live
Since the hotfix
i miss dragon tempered blades
you can play it rn
what do you swap out though
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this build kinda slaps
amplifying + wound?
ye
nice i like this. ill report back
you can swap Numbing to something else if not facing caster
But my overall dmg its higher:)
maybe you're just playing better
apparently it isn't working on dispatch either
you still get a little extra CDR from the combo points but no extra damage
so it's kind of a waste to play
they don't know it's bugged
do w/e you want no ones stopping you
but it's actively worse
Maybe they fixed ,why im saying this since i picked this talwnt i have 700-800crits for bte
it isn't fixed
it's crackshot bte that doesn't get extra damage from it
which is your most important bte's
I dont know 😄 feels better im cluless about outlaw but yea maybe u should give try 😄

i've already tried it and been testing since day 1
if it wasn't bugged it would be the build we use imo for sure
but with the bugs it just isn't
it's even the outlaw build i put in the pins
Maybe i just like this blue combo but for me feels different xd i dont know xD
I thought supercharger was the move for both assa and sub, not anymore?
it's not working on evis/dispatch or crackshot BtE
it is still working on envenom
Anyone else feel like everything has been so laggy
Like going from one global to the next
yeah
i heard from someone the RS is making things buggy
if you use RS and Shadowcraft
but really who fuckin knows at this point
this patch is a mess
Indeed
Is there any advantage playing cold blood for kingsbane then ? Is the first hit strong enough to spec into it ?
cold blood only makes the initial hit of KB crit. i don't think it's worth rn no
Go to Mugambala, I thought it was my own lag, happened to be having ram issues for a couple of days... I went to Mugambala dummy and things are fine.
Unless you mean live, I've been working so I haven't got to play live yet. Just practice rotation between jobs.
Did you get the mount fooker @spring bough
which mount?

not yet lol
maybe christmas gift to justify lol
i did get the black mammoth mount tho and the legacy achievement today
@rapid furnace assa is really good right now
I asked earlier here and didnt get an answer thats why
I was prolly asleep 
Been thinking about trying assa in pvp especially 2s and Blitz. Dont know how it compares to Sub rogue tho.
It’s quite good
Sub's fun in BGs with the cheese one shots
I would say it’s better than Sub because Sub is bugged as of today
Pins
Here or in sub ?
The one shots aren’t working anymore
That does explain why i felt like my dmg was lacking.
Yep
Assa can envenom just as big as sub’s evis was before the bug though
Just a bug atm though right? or is that how it was meant to be released
Nah you’re hard coping right now bro I have to say it
Just a bug yeah
What if
Still my question is, in terms of 2s (cuz i cant find 3s and im shit at soloshuffle) how good is assa there and in blitz how good is my pressure.
You die in a single stun lock from me
Good in both
Okay - we’ll make it two cheap shots until death
Like, i love sub because of shadowdance but i also feel like assa just would be a better feral druide or rather an easier version of it
If you’re going to team fight with assa use the pinned assa build
If you’re doing 2s or mostly base camping I have a different build
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Then use that build
Thats why i asked how good assa is.
I’ve hit 4.8m envenoms
Im the type who sneaks in the back and trys to oneshot people
With that build
With what exactly? Nahj has been trying to make trickster work since the bug started and it looks dog
Then let me ask this which one has a higher skill floor assa or Sub?
Now that Dust is gone I’d say it’s close
Also is there a good way to deal with DKs as assa rogue ?
Dust is the reason ehy i went sub tbh. I loved being able to burst for extended time
Thats kinda the reason why im asking all this. Now that we lost dust i cant decide wheter to play sub or assa rogue.
If the bugs gets fixed and they don’t nerf sub I think it will still be good
But i feel like outside of like DKs with ams assa rogue will burst harder
But atm I think assa is just as good as non-bugged sub
Im guessing when it comes to arena assa has the benefit of rot dmg that pushes it above sub in alot of combs?
Not to mention that disgusting dmg once someone hits 34 %
Ye assa does a lot more overall dmg
Guess im gonna try out assa in pvp then
that's almost the same build I threw together for 2s lol
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I tried playing sub earlier and nearly got out dpsed by a pres evoker... like i know im shit
But thats ridiculous
Yeah once I tested amp with supercharger it was kinda over
TTK has been such a disappointment
Yeah I didn’t care for it
but we can't take dashing, so I guess it was never going to be great
So does that mean u just shiv befor darkest night envenom to get the supercharge ontop ?
Yeah
damn, yeah I was pulling the same damage with and without it. Stopped trying to make it work after that
Yep
I was hoping the poison applications would beef up KB more or something
But it just legit did the same dam
One thing im happy about that dust is gone
Is that i dont have to think wheter its a good idea to vanish as a Semi Damage CD
Now its mostly defensive
^do you happen to have a PVP guide for assa ? one that is maybe already up to date with the changes ?
nothing has really changed honestly, it mostly plays the same
but nah i don't usually make full-on guides, just try to get the important information out likes builds etc
alright
i guess ill just play around with that build of urs
hope that it feels good, mostly because im an indecisive fuck ...
been pondering wheter to play assa or sub for half a month
im guessing assa goes Vers Mastery for poison/bleed dmg ?
Shadenox hasn't posted an actually guide this expansion yet, but he usually has some good gameplay vods from his games that you can watch
this just got posted
Does assa still have near unhealable dmg one someone hits 35 % if they have deathmark on?
it's very good, but no it's not unhealable
im talking like 1v1 scenario not with a healer ^^
and if you are using the more single target focused build NoTrickz posted, you don't have Sudden Demise for the big bleed out
you get 30% increased bleed and nature damage below 35%. It's good but if you haven't used Kingsbane or if the enemy uses a defensive at all they aren't just going to fall over
thats interesting, i thought especially in a 2v2 scenario youd want sudden demise for that closeing out dmg
yes
assa also uses 4p
sudden demise is nerfed to 10% hp in pvp
^^
and if you play DtB you have less bleed damage to proc it
Yo any idea when super charger gonna be fixed?
no idea
toh shit xD i have like 2 Piece
Sudden Demise is kind gimmicky in pvp honestly
sadge
Damn dude
oh i thought its 20% not 10%
Not playing tonight I guess
oh yeah trick, for someone thats trying to get into PVP more do you think sub or assa is harder to get into ? im used to feral a bit but not much
sub is harder
i don't think sub is that much harder rn

sub damage is rather scripted now, for better and for worse
you definitely have to play cleaner now
but the skill floor is lower than it was with Dust
ill be honest i wouldnt even be here if feral didnt have to use Cyclone ... i genuinly dont like Cyclone being a thing
assa is also really similar to feral on a very basic level at least
energy/combo points/bleeds/envenom
ill try it in a bit once im done with this damn Argus raid
that's funny, because Cyclone is one of the reasons Feral is so OP right now
Do you have a Blitz build aswell ?i already copied the 2v2 buil
cyclone in itself is an absolutly bonkers ability.. i just dont like having to shift out of cat to cast it
and having to hard cast it
nerf clone
that's fair
or buff blind to be on clone cde
so the hotfix post that was recently posted, are they live now or it hasnt been fixed yet?
those fixes are for different bugs
but those should be live
might have to relog for them to be applied to you
ahh yeah im going to try that now
don't expect anything crazy from those fixes
they are superficial fixes that didn't apply correctly when they launched the patch
the supercharger evis bug is still there
hmmm well that sucks lol
lol yup youre right still there
good thing i avoided playing today i would be so mad if i could not kill anything
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u guys were right, they said the mount was exclusive
better start grinding tokens again

lemme do a quick calc
it's like 1.2m or something
7 tokens
maybe more on eu
chat if youre new to the stream, calc is short for calculator
The first brutosaur showed if you were a broke bitch in game. The new one shows if you are a broke bitch IRL
ye lol
dude
ofc
but still a cashgrab if u use $$$$$$$
yeah i don't like it
but let's be real here
a LOT of people spent $500+ on the bruto
like w ahri skin?
ok sorry
was in a game
ok so
maybe this is old news but
I just found out that if you have the improved garrote buff
or maybe just subterfuge
but itd be weird if its just subterfuge because this never happened to me before the changes
and you deathmark
aw I was hoping it was outlaw cooking
this is 10.0 news
well sorry
most likely an old bug they re broke with the patch
It just happened to me for the 1st time now
I did just 6-0 this lobby though. Gettin up there. Spitting distance from r1
need ur spec
assa
dang assa it is then
Well until they fix the bugs I’d say sub is the worst
Went from best to worst overnight thanks to them
what happened lol
what are the bugs?
finally got to sit down to see the sub changes and so far feels like I'm cranking
I just got my rogue to 80
So supercharger still broken?
trill just said outlaw is like ughhhh and sub dead atm
i used to have an addon that would pulse an icon in the middle of your screen when it came off CD
does anyone remember what it was called?
nvm i think i found it? Doom_cooldownPulse
@teal silo @somber plank pins pins pins
Ye that’s it
oh well
yea he said that
outlaw like outlul
wait when we say we're hitting 3 mil max cus of supercharge bug, is that in pvp situations or on pvp training dummy?
in actual pvp situations the highest i've seen is like 1.5m ish
nahj tried it for hours earlier and said that was the highest he's seen as well
yea sad

Ye we know
So it`s advised to avoid the supercharger build ?
Doesn’t change much
if it`s bugge
For sub and outlaw ye
Use the old deeper strat builds
yep,feels good not gonna lie 😄
but Sub also feels like you can kill in a window now
ty
Not with all of its bugs
It feels like a wet noodle rn
Compared to a couple days ago anyway
Today?
the lack of Shadowstep on outlaw has me pressing a empty key :)))
yesterday
Yep
Greetings
Guys do you have an idea for this ?
Shadowmeld macro
#showtooltip Shadowmeld
/stopcasting
/stopattack
/Cast [combat] ! Shadowmeld]; [nostealth] !stealth
/cast !Stealth
It’s not working for me
All you need is
/stopattack
/cast shadowmeld
/cast !stealth
Is the supercharge bug with sub not consuming the supercharge or just consuming it but not dealing the extra damage?
The latter
Oops
I see
It consumes it but doesn’t do any extra damage
It’s actually does slightly less damage when I tested it earlier
I’m positive something more is bugged than just Supercharger
I don’t think we’re getting the new Symbols damage modifier either
Sub and outlaw are both bug riddled messes right now
Are there any good generic resources for Blitz out there? Like... Strategies that people expect you to kinda know?
Hmm I guess I'll keep trying out stuff
Yeah there’s youtube guides for each BG out there I’m sure, not sure if there’s any rogue specific ones
Yeah that too, Sub plays kinda weird in comparison to the generic strategies, right?
Rogue in general is more of a base sitter
Guess just know some generic strategies for each map is a good start thoguh, thanks
You try to inconvenience the other team as much as possible, waste their time
Or ninja cap bases
There’s a place to import builds on your talent window
At the very bottom left of the window
thanks, found it 🙂
Why am I flying in Tanaris with 30 fps? Do you know the case for that fps drop pls?
new patch performance issues
So thats normal?
On my mage i have mouse over cast on, if i mouse over an enemys nameplate with no target it lets me cast frost bolt. same works for the base game icelance but when i use a ice lance macro it has an issue
#showtooltip ice lance
/cast Ice Lance
/petattack
even if i just use #showtooltip and /cast lance it doesnt want to work. anyone know why this is? ik its the rogue discord
huh
but wanted to know if u knew any settings that might fuck with ti
screenshot
it isn't showing the tooltip?
mousing over the enemy dummy wit hthe macro gives me this error. but if i mouse over and use a non macro'd lance it casts it
the macro is fine its mouse over casting thats being a pain
probably just because it's a macro
that doesn't have focus in it
so it's overriding
not focus,
mouse over
mb
I dont have a focus though. no target no focus just me mousing over the targets nameplate

so the macro itself would need :mouse over:
Anybody else having an issue,where you login and your interface is messed up ?
sub is kinda dog rn but yeah you'd drop it
suspect there's other bugs with evis not just supercharger
They implemented that bug Last Night or
yesterday
bit more than half
i'm NA
Yeah roundabout feelycraft
it was sorta early yesterday for me
Yeah then lets say maybe 16 hrs AFP
give or take sure
Ago* fkin iphone
nahj was getting like 1.5m evis max
compared to 5m+ before
Dummy or Player
player
Yup
dummy shows more damage sometimes
So 3m or sth on dummy
Bummer
Im thinking abt lvling a 2nd rogue for outlaw
Sucks that they go no mastery literally unplayable until conq cap is lifted
you can play mastery
like it's not terrible
how so?
Im a dirty minmaxer. Could Never Play anything with rating without having the Character perfectly prepared
I farmed full conq in Open World content and unrated Games before i played my first shuffle xD
And that on Like 8 Chars hahaha
My pvp goal every ssn is to have every class 1.8 to collect all tmogs and then i just Play my Main to max
Min Max is not the end of the world that`s for sure :)))
Currently thats rogue because blitz is easiest to 2.4 and rogue is/was giga op in blitz usually it was hunter or hpal tho
Now that Solo Shuffle rating seems fixed and subr is a dumpsterfire might have to Go back to Hunt
this is what i mean, ever since the patch
i have to set UI preset everytime on every time
even if i use /reload console ui it messes it up again
is there a way to set it to default
also could be an addon bugging it out
thanks, il try to check for a default thing
and update addons again
Somtimes while playing i just a get a weird stutter a few seconds aswell, not sure if some addons just hog all of the memory
could just be the game
performance has been weird since patch
yep 🙂
nah,i like how i set it up
did not ask :)))
Good Morning to all my sub rogues that have re-rolled assa ☀️🦦
Hello guys
Can someone tell me what happened from yesterday to today, cuz my dmg is is legit 1/10 of what it was yday
Oh i just saw
So we drop supercharge until they fix it?
Yes but I suspect Supercharger isn’t the only bug affecting Sub, it feels terrible even without it

how can we test it tho
I mean, they wont care about it anyway until some PVE ppl doesnt report it
it's already in the works
you can try testing without and without different talents to see if damage modifiers are being applied properly, but it can be a little tedious
supercharger definitely isn't working for rn
will likely be announced when it's fixed
sike its on aff
hello guys, i have a queck question regarding maccro: do you guys use burst macro like shd+trink or symbol ect.. or just a bind for each ?
quick*
it's generally recommended to use separate binds
thank you !
ur sending him to hell lol
nah
ah i think discord doesnt want to implement that video, maybe anyone can still check it tho
are you in Dorn
yes
but i'm quite sure i also had that in bgs
this might work
you can see it on 2nd and 4th aimed press
- clicky keyboard so u can hear when i click + see when it goes off
Hey guys. I’m almost 2.1k in shuffle as assa. I’m wondering why no one seems to play kingsbane. I think I dropped bone spike to pick it up. It doesn’t happen too often but in the past few days I’ve crit a 1.2 and 1.5 mil follow by a 1.3 to 2.8 mil envenom crit. It seems good. Am I missing the forest for the trees. Talk to me
nah it's decent
I feel like I get hard fucked in caster cleaves as assa, like at some point I run out of shadowsteps and I just get slowly kited to death, don't even think about trying to split pressure bleeds on both targets it feels hard enough to keep pressure in 1 of said casters, is there a different game plan i should follow when this happens?
you could try the other assa build in the pins with DTB against them
and do more ST
I feel best into caster cleaves unless it’s like frost mage/devoker that kite and slow a lot of maybe pick up Fatebound into that for extra steps but I play DS mostly
It was frost mage/bbm
I’d go BM and get max pressure off pets if they’re on you
I used to solely pick targets off skillcapped guide but in reality you and a warrior will have much better time going bm than clothie you have no uptime on. Just my opinion
what stats do I need to take as an assasination rogue in pvp? crit + versatality
mast>vers>crit>haste I believe
basically full vers/mastery except for tier set
alright, thx!
https://check-pvp.fr/us/The Forgotten Coast/Minervae what would you recommend. You helped me a few weeks ago bc I had messed up gearing early ssn. I have 825 conquest rn capped @potent pivot
you don't have 4p?
Idts. Think I used my catalyst piece for wpvp boots this week too 🤦 so prioritize that next time maybe the helm?
what all bloody token gear are you using atm
gloves/belt/wrist/cloak?
buy conq gloves and catalyst them
using catalyst on wpvp gear is a big oof
Wrist, back, gloves, belt, boots
you can just fix it later
buy conq gloves and catalyst them
then work on replacing all your wpvp gear
with crafted
I coulda sworn I had the 4 set I honestly dk wtf I did with the 4th pc. Maybe it’s in my bags
living the transmog life
right? you didnt just put in the wrong item did you :d
I changed to female Nelf and immediately gained 400 rating. Had nothing to do with MMR buff
Has Murlock been glitched this expansion?
Whenever I look up top rDruids on Murlock they only have the 2pc tier bonus when I look up the same druids on armory or another website it shows them in all 4
It's been displaying it wrongly like this for at least a few weeks
it has always been a little buggy
Brother how do you have 700 games already for this Season? @molten hedge
I have 62 😭
Ain’t no way
I’m only counting your wins king 👑
I haven’t played in like 3 weeks and I probably have 600 solo rounds lol
I been gaming. Rogue is my class
Never played more than 400-600 on any class last ssn on any class
Found rogue a month ago I was scared of the cc but I love it
In DF I think I hit 2k rounds minimum each season on my rogue 😂
Nahhhh yall are crazy guess i need to play more if im ever gunna break out of 1800 just work man no way i could have 700 + games rn in any universe with my current job but trying to change that here soon
S4 DF was my first ssn of wow I’ve been learning a lot
I think it’s bc the Qs have been fast and I just re q. It’s caused me to lose a lot of rating but just try to learn from the losses. It’s tough
Anyone confirm that if you get 1.8k blitz
You can buy the 2h sword and "learn" it for your warbank
Even on non 2h classes?
Ye
Since the latest patch letting you learn class locked stuff
Can you just buy for other classes too on one toon ?
Ye you can buy all the weapon appearances
Even ones your class can’t use
@potent pivot one matchup I rly struggle into as Assa is Warr/ret. I usually go ret, play disarm for Warr, etc. but they usually just farm me and eventually kill me near 2 min mark or less. What can I do? Perhaps I’m not kiting them Los of their healer mb that would help? I usually use my stuns on them to peel a sec
If the objective is the get Vers/Mastery, why would I ever buy conquest gear instead of purchasing forged marks and crafting a piece with ideal stats? It costs the same amount of conquest. What am I missing?
Why is feral maim 20second CD while kidney shot is 30second CD?
I remembered kidney being 20s in DF.
This feels so unfair
what vendor has weapon appearances? I only know of the ones for Duelist (2.1 cr)
to catalyst items into tier set and for more vers
1.8k in blitz awards the ability to get classic season 1 appearances or something
Area 52 in Outland has classic PvP appearances when you hit 1.8 in blitz or rbgs
Is there a bug where sap just isn't working? I have had multiple games now qhere I go in to sap the first gut and it just dosent go out
oh that's crazy gotta go there
what's the cost? Is that something with the timewalking thing that's on rn?
i got like 8k badges or sth lying around on another char
assa is wild in arena lmao
Marks of honour it’s not a time walking thing it’s been in the game for years
thank you, gonna check it out
is there a way to stop slice and dice taking me out of fking stealth
There must at least, at all times, be 3 bugs that takes us out of stealth. It's important to the stakeholders (Mages and Paladins).
its not slice
it's adrenaline rush
stop pressing it in stealth
why adrenaline rush taking me out of stealth
because it automatically flips a coin now
You stealthing
they changed it to do that so now it's bugged and breaking stealth
just don't press it during stealth for right now
smh
Can you imagine having an ADRENALINE RUSH AND FLIPPING A COIN while being stealthy? I can't.
i can
Was the supercharger evis bug fixed? @potent pivot
i want to pop it and pick up the cdr chest
no reason to press snd in stealth either now btw
remove the keybind
SND being up automatically and refreshing automatically is the best shit ever
I do kinda miss the 10 minute SND buffs from shadowlands 😂
is it rly marks of honor? they had a bunch of gear for like 2 silver from classic
the other gear is marks of honor but i'm pretty sure i could always just buy those
@potent pivot one matchup I rly struggle into as Assa is Warr/ret. I usually go ret, play disarm for Warr, etc. but they usually just farm me and eventually kill me near 2 min mark or less. What can I do? Perhaps I’m not kiting them Los of their healer mb that would help? I usually use my stuns on them to peel a sec
Also, I do have the tier set gloves for 4 pc adds. But it’s crit haste. I thought we don’t get haste as assa
you repeated the same thing 
I didn’t see a reply sorry
focus the warr more
take control is king always?
what
brother did you miss all the patch notes or something
yes
SnD is fully passive now
Isn’t it bad to go war since ret can bop him so you have to go thru warrs cds and rets cd? Not arguing just curious
read patch notes brother
warr is squishy
Tru
they fall over
what the heck
I hate this pal meta it feels so bad when I have hpal and ret on same team lmaooo
So you would take crit haste gloves over vers mast for the 4 pc tier set?
For assa
yeah
Ok Ty bro
it's full passive now though
You’re so helpful
you never have to press SnD again
i try i try
umm
i believe you i just dont understand... its functional passive or actual passive
because i have ability still
functional
dispatch automatically triggers SnD now brother
So is it ever an idea to have SnD on bars now?
no
does having snd up during gun opener matter then
like im opening from stealth with the gun over and over
bte applies it
crackshot bte also does a dispatch at 30% dmg or w.e
and that applies SnD as well
i see
Also feint is off GCD if u didn’t hear
And if u play assa ever you get TWELVE seconds of ind carnage, master assassin (if u play it), and maybe one more thing I’m forgetting. Most importantly you can spend the first 6 secs cheaping and ambushing then aoe garrote its amazing
Anyone know of a potion or anything I can buy on AH to speed run dungeons faster
thanks for info notricks
Like a dps pot? Or speed
How in love is everyone with Subterfuge?
But mah deeper strategem
The potion is called spec feral
I have a feral I should prob just run it on him lol
I prefer Assa over feral even tho feral is op rn
No sweat, I would really recommend checking out patch notes for bigger patches like .05 and .1 patches. Sometimes there’s big changes like that :d
Biggest I’ve hit in game is also 2.9. I hit an 8 mil on PvP dummy lols
6.3m
No way that’s on a player with vers lol
I think the only reason to farm mogs on rogue is for artifact stuff
trying to see if i time poison stacks to get it bigger
It’s not as broken without replicating shadows
It’s still very good
But taking 3 symbols isn’t bad
Dropping this for Weaponmaster
Why is that?
Because mog farming is all account wide now
Only certain artifact achievements are account wide
Ahhh I see I thought you meant "no reason to farm mogs FOR rogue"
Like Balance of Power and Honor Level
Can you run same dungeon on every character before reset as well so u get both benefits
I misunderstood
Look for high ilvl gear with speed on the AH
Sometimes you can find cheap ones with a nice amount of speed
@potent pivot I saw you posted something about elemental changes. Were those hot fixed overnight
Get the newest speed enchants if you can afford it
I’m just trying to farm the Doomblade set. Been trying for months only got 3-5 pcs on the 3 sets smh
Yes
Cause ele in my solo shuffle this morning still strong AF
Ele nerf?!? Thank god
Yeah but still Chad
Bro before they could 1 shot healer in opener lol
The Ascendance bug was fixed
Yeah for real
They're still super oppressive
One just went 5-1 in my morning shuffle
The one that made them do infinite Lava Bursts in 1 second
Ele being good is good for a caster meta. They keep them tame 🤣
I think hunter’s entire class is still fried as fuck
Yeah. Making me wanna polish up on my ele and shake off the dust
Anyone know how many abilities ele keybinds before target macros and shit
Someone told me it was like 50 idk if they were exaggerating
nah maybe 30ish
Bet
More or less than mage or about the same
When the supercharger evis bug gets fixed, do you think sub will be in a good spot?
I haven’t played at all this week because of a business trip but I remember checking the disc the first days after the patch and sub was pumping hella dmg, even saw a kalvish oneshot clip
But now I’m reading that sub is doomed lol, what do you think? @potent pivot
i think it's going to be fine
it might end up being bad at the very top end, at like r1 levels of 3v3
depending on how tuning ends up
but it will definitely stay good at 1.8 to Glad range
Assassination looking better though?
nah
in a vacuum assa is still the worst of the 3 specs
but i will continue to tell everyone all 3 specs a very good, because they are
Yeah it’s my least favorite, I’d rather not play it
you have no reason to play the "better" spec in this game these days
barring certain FOTM outliers, the game is very balanced
the only time your spec matters is pushing r1 in 3v3 and sometimes even then it doesn't matter
I agree!
Hey guys. Do you use flagellation on opener?
you can start building stacks yeah
you will prolly get peeled on your first opener anyway, depending on rating anyway
the goal is to force as much from their team as possible
It’s just for max dps on a 5 man rogue gank team
oh jesus christ
just know that sub is very bugged right now
it's not doing the dmg it was 1-2 days ago
Is it doing less?
a lot less
Sheeesh can’t wait for the fix!
😭
it should be coming soon
So I can open by shadowstrike>flagellation>rupture>cheap and so on?
you prolly want to open with some sort of CC first
Open with a cheap?
or strike->kidney
okei
are you familiar with how flag works
Ty for being so helpful. I’m new with rogue
spending combo points builds stacks and all that
It stacks mastery when you spend combo?
yeah
build to 30 stacks then send dance/symbols etc
sometimes you can use dance/symbols/blades with your flag, then send another dance/symbols while you have 30 stacks
if you're just going all in
I’m not familiar at all, was wondering what my optimal opener/burst would look like now
This was my old opener
i wouldn't recommend blowing everything like that in arena
was just telling him that because he's about to do some off the wall stuff
what embellishments would you guys recommend for outlaw bgb
My boy ur nice n all but ur advice sucks, this was the standard opener entire of tww until this patch🤡
do you know how to read?
that comment isn't directed at the screenshot
Lens x2
nah not trolling
embellishments are all collectively ass
seems that way
@potent pivot is assa safe to queue
ye it's good
Yo Guys, i am still at Work. Is the sub damage Bug really fixed?
no
anyone that says that has zero idea what they're talking about
Jokes on you, I always blow my load early
i love it how people talk shit and clown on others then vanish when it comes to actual intellectual discussion
always a funny time
You thought you cooked with this huh?
I like memes
Why is it doing a lot less? I thought the bug only affected evis. Is it still safe to spend supercharge on coup/rup?
Did they try to hotfix some of the 5 mil crits and this resulted in the current bugs or what's the story?
For Sub
because evis is like over half of our damage now
Or I guess Assa did phat Envenoms too 
almost up 100 rating to 2048 in solo lol
you can run Replicating Shadows and Trickster to TRY to avoid the bug, but that damage is still dog shit
Ah gotcha thanks! So we run tea instead for now?
if you're going to run Sub right now yeah Tea/Deeper/Vanish
wouldn't even recommend playing it right now at all
and i literally NEVER say that about any spec ever
Unfortunately I have no choice but to since I’m so close to 1950 in shuffle and that’s my goal for the illusion
nahj lost like 400 rating yesterday from trying to force bugged Sub to work
but he was also quite a lot higher than 1.9
Yeah I’m no where near his level xD

I still face hunters who don’t trap
the bug should be fixed soon
Prayge
Soon soon or soon TM
soon soon
Does it work for Envenom?? 
yes

it works for everything except the pinned abilities
evis, dispatch and crackshot bte
The cool abilities 
Hope not stupid question. Only source of tier PVP is to use catalyst?
yes
just use the anniv exp buff to lvl something else while you wait
cool ty, tbh I think I have 3 charges anyway
Do the gems for the lens embellishment matter? Like if I play deathstalker does lingering darkness affect the lens damage if I use the gems that make it shadow dmg?
Lmao I've seen some 636 tier gear on checkpvp 
They should not allow you to do that
that's just converted bloody token gear
nah gem doesn't matter
any gem is fine for it
our talents do not affect the damage of Lens afaik
not even dark brew with onyx gems?
thats too bad, thats why i went shadow gems
talents and modifiers almost never interact with items and enchantments
It hurts so bad
agreed
i feel like some people also need a warning when buying weapons
the amount of fotm ferals i've heard about buying intellect shit has been fucking hilarious this season
it happens more to hybrid 2 hand wielders from my experience
ive used strength two handers on my melee hunter before as well
Hype to push today so glad they fixed MMR
not as sub you wont xD
lol def not pushing as sub, assa feels great rn tbh
Its kind of a shame because the current shuffle meta is pretty good for sub
way better than arm/ret 25% representation
or augs
I accidently bought the feral staff on my resto and had to reroll LOL
This is true
Hey guys! New to learning PVP. In BG's do we use deadly on assasination and wound in arenas?
And it pisses me off i just capitalize on games with udk and locks
Oh no you accidentally had to reroll from like the worst healer to the best melee 
wound always
Thank you
No I made a second resto druid so I could get the right weapon
Oh no, true commitment to the resto life!
My good 2s rating is on my old druid with the green staff 🥲
And rDruid has felt even weaker since Tuesday
Soooooo
Ive been struggling to get back to where I was
I love stealth classes, hence why I play rogue and druid. And I think druid is just S tier for shenanigans and fun. Not many other classes I'd consider healing on.
Priest aesthetic and gameplay feel boring and uninspiring. Dragons are ugly. I used to heal on shaman years ago but too many keybinds. Only other class id consider healing on would be pally cause paladin was my first main, but travel form, typhoon, stealth, HoTs, instant cast dragon flying
Druid is just 1000x more cool and fun
I was in an Arathi Basin yesterday and there were like 8 dudes at LM trying to 8v1 me for almost the entire match. I was able to distract most of the enemy team for long enough to cap the rest of the flags. And it took them over 5 minutes to kill me
I don't heal but if I did it would probably priest. But I am tainted from the ROGUE MAGE PRIEST vibe. I love that they can play aggressive and (I don't know if this is true nowadays) lose if they play passive on mana etc etc.
Just travel form, LoS, I go OOM alot every now and then I would shadowmeld and drink
Fully embarrassed these nerds
I did play resto Druid back in TBC though
Was fun when you could be aggressive with restokin
I never played then but being able to go moonkin as resto seems kind of lame to me
You always had to go deep into balance to get moonkin and to me that kind of made that form special out of all the other ones
Fundamentally I don't think I like the idea of a resto going moonkin
What's the incentive to play balance if you can be a healer and go moonkin lol
Obviously just play resto at that point
It was a hybrid spec for 2s with more damage and mana regen
It's crazy how this is everyone's mentality. Like if you play druid you have to play feral cause it's strong
Or if you play healer play pally or disc.
Or the other day I suggested I wanted a race for my mage that was strong but also one that kind of fit the aesthetic and I said I like humans for the look of a mage better than NE.
And people flamed me for not min maxing and I wasnt concerned enough with functionality.
It's like a game and people used to play games to have fun lol
People used to main classes even when they were off meta and just enjoy their time in the sun when their spec got buffed
Now everyone is like min max nerd meta slave sluts lol
Kinda makes me want to make all my characters Vulpera out of spite and hit 2k
Yo man sorry if you answered this 10 billions times but what's the bug with sub spec ? Supercharger isnt working ?
pins
Oh alright thanks
Fuck yeah
Do y'all happen to have a WA for darkest night and flag or it's existing on random wagio ?
I would honestly recommend to learn to create your own - it's so easy
Once you can do that you can do whatever you want without relying on others etc. Specially for these extremely simple ones. If you don't want to learn then TellMeWhen is even easier to setup for tracking simple buffs and debuffs.
Fucking hell mate, I just got out of a shuffle lobby with two holy pally healers and a frost mage
Not ONCE did either of them cast blessing freedom
I sat there rooted the entire time
I just sent a girl a meme, that I thought I had cropped
But nope. I straight up sent her an uncropped meme off of Instagram like a straight up boomer
Am I cooked?
puts phone in garbage disposal
Its joever
RIP
Mouse over macro. That’s outlaws thing, pretty solid multi uses for those boys.
Well, if she digs you then she won’t care. If not then oh well.
it feels nice to get around the map but
i miss shadowstepping blinks and disengages
i get rooted so often
We all get rooted down here Georgie - IT the mage

Hey, this isn't really the right discord to ask this in but I like you guys better than my other discords, and you tend to tolerate my stupidity better than most:
How do I set up self target healing macros
i think it's @player
Prob right
because you whoosh and pewpew
Think I’m gunna go buy a new Naga mouse today
This will be my 2nd one current one has this issue where the buttons work sometimes and sometimes they don’t after periods of no use so i have to like slam my mouse on the desk mid shufffle to hit garrote 😂😂
I can’t live like this anymore it’s costing me rounds
Yea im hype to play i went 4-2 last night one game gained like 175 rating
Wait, is sub bugged? I was planning to play a bit of arena again today
I was in a lobby with a sub just before and it was doing poop damage
Bah, I only played a bit of arena at launch and had a hankering for it
I think it is bugged Trickz has been talking about it



