pvp

[runic trench]

I just look at either 3v3 or 2v2

Not blitz or solo shuffle

[worthy crag]

i'd prob look at shuffle more than 2v2

[merry robin]

But I'm looking at what people are running for blitz, for the goal of playing blitz

[graceful ravine]

1. DS makes you stuck in combat, this is gamebreaking for blitz sometimes
2. Applying DS via ambush in team fights is sometimes a dps loss, except for maybe FC and orb maps
3. Snare reduction is good in team fights too
4. Fatebound is just easier to play without having to think about applying DS stacks all the time

only time i play DS now is for orb maps

[merry robin]

Yeah, I've gotten word that the combat bug is known and likely not going to be fixed until .5 patch

[graceful ravine]

needing to mount after a rez is so important, sometimes you just get stuck in combat after a rez and youre forced to walk for 5 seconds

its toxic as fuck

and you lose because you get to the team fight late

[potent pivot]

But it also can fuck people from capping against you

But yeah

[graceful ravine]

never seen that work personally

[potent pivot]

I have

[merry robin]

It's so troll on how it removes us from even vanished stealths

[potent pivot]

It’s the same combat bug

[merry robin]

like entering combat is one thing, but kicking us out of stealth is just BRUTAL

[indigo hill]

That Fending off Darkness WQ never pops up.

[worthy crag]

bugs aside, rogues really got a pretty lame hero tree overall

compared to other classes

[marble oasis]

He missed out the part where they’re flat buffing the abilities this effects.
So it’s given them a free pvp talent slot.
Anyone still taking this will either be able to one shot or be one shot though 😂

[worthy crag]

30% is way way way way too big to sacrifice

could be wrong but i dont think fire could take this in arenas

bgs or blitz they prob could where they can blend in a crowd

[marble oasis]

That’s possibly what they’re going for.

Have we had numbers on bgb play yet?

[torpid zodiac]

im new to rogues and playing som 60 pvp . Can you guys tell me whats your opening rotation on "most" targets

[median furnace]

hey, is there a downside to useing the pvp fist weapon in my off hand as opposed to a dagger?

[lucid lark]

Sub rogue confuses the absolute fuck out of me. Sin feels like riding a bike but sub is like... What the fuck dude. Trying to learn it after not playing rogue for like a decade

[broken otter]

I'm a Mage main, but I've been trying to pick another class to main for the rest of the season, - since I got my goals on my Mage, already. I've been bouncing around, but keep coming back to Sub.

I'm a terrible Sub Rogue, but the complexity of the class is so fun.

Like, even being bad at burst combos and such, just being a CC bot and doing my best to burst is super rewarding.

[potent pivot]

Yeah, we use daggers now

For shadow tech

[rocky vale]

how does a monk cap a flag with me spamming Fok on top of him?

[broken otter]

Some AoEs don't stop flag caps. Idk about FoK though.

Like I think Warlock's Rain of Fire doesn't stop them.

I feel like Blizzard doesn't, but I'm not 100%, cause I usually use Frozen Orb to stop caps if I'm gonna be CC'd.

[indigo hill]

Can Blade Flurry still hit trough defenses?

[rocky vale]

cos it's treated as a dot

FoK aint

btw how do I make a macro that would swap between DFA and dismantle depending on which is talented?

[broken otter]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Death From Above] Death From Above; Dismantle

Not at my PC, and about to get in bed, but that should do it.

Granted if you're not PvP activated the spell won't be known and it'll default to Dismantle, which also wouldn't be known, giving you a red ? With no tooltip

I usually get around this by just choosing a custom icon to hide the ugly ?

[rocky vale]

yep, works ty

I dont get it

monks are just immune to FoK I guess

[potent pivot]

Some yeah

[ruby jungle]

Does sub becomes more viable then assa in pvp with the upcoming changes?

[potent pivot]

Which changes

I’m going to say no either way because sub is already technically better than assa right now if you play at a high enough skill level

[ruby jungle]

11.0.5

[orchid plinth]

It's not out yet so no one knows

[potent pivot]

The way it’s looking so far it’s going to be worse

[ruby jungle]

thx man

[runic trench]

atleast by the time 11.0.5 comes we will have uncapped conquest

can all just go outlul

[fiery turret]

would it be worth to use 619 shoulders (tier) for 4set in pvp, even if it means loosing 20 ilvl on the shoulder-slot?

[indigo hill]

You know which ones? I remember it went trough turtle and evasion.

[fiery turret]

as assassination btw

[potent pivot]

Naw

[potent pivot]

Idr all of them

[fiery turret]

sorry, but naw means no right? 😄

but thanks

[indigo hill]

Naw is no. Yup is yes.

[fiery turret]

aight

[azure rapids]

what the hell keeps tacking us out of stealth

regardless of spec

i died so many times in wpvp ,running towards somebody only out of stealth :))

[indigo hill]

https://tenor.com/view/who-knows-at-this-point-harry-jowsey-popbuzz-who-knows-no-one-knows-gif-18070353

[orchid plinth]

Most obvious one to me is the Singular Focus talent for Deathstalker.

[potent pivot]

There’s quite a few bugs from other classes that pull us out

Most noticeable in wpvp/BGs

[orchid plinth]

Warlock sneezed 100yds from you? Sorry unstealthed.

[azure rapids]

annoying :)))

[narrow tangle]

whats the optimal opener with thieves bargain

[lone anvil]

Should I be able to beat ret paladin in a 1v1 as assassination

A paladin challenged me to a duel last night. Spent the entire time running/kiting like a little b**** even though we are both melee and he challenged me lol. I got him low so many times but just couldn't pull the trigger. I was pretty pissed. I did waste a CD or two by using them at not an ideal time and we didn't get the chance to best out of 3 cause my shuffle popped in our rematch.

[runic trench]

so close, yet so far

[warped gate]

I hear you, sometimes I’m observing in WPvP and I notice someone is running at me a little too precise and I’m like oh goddammit, I’m not stealth anymore. Shit is the worst.

And in faaar-far away, so no chance I got hit with AoE.

[potent pivot]

Usually pressing Blades very early with a piss Subterfuge opener

Then once the TB dmg reduction is over you start a burst opener

[azure rapids]

Yeah that's crazy!running towards players not realisijg they see me:)))

Or stalking around some fighting to jump,bum out for stealth out of water like a fish:))

[narrow tangle]

so there is no point on running premedition

[lone anvil]

So I was having issues getting my UI to save to my profiles on bartender properly. And a bunch of people told me to ditch bartender because it's outdated and use in game settings.
I figured out how to do almost everything I needed with in game UI

I couldn't figure out how to limit the bars to 3-4 skills in width. It seems like they're capped at 6 minimum. Which isn't the end of the world.

If I have empty skill slots on a bar I'm not using is there a way to make those empty slots invisible completely So I don't see the small square outlines

[lone anvil]

Can I set that for just the empty slots or will it make the entire bar invisible

Because I just want the gaps in that screenshot up above to be invisible

But I still want to be able to see my abilities

[runic trench]

just the empty slots

[lone anvil]

Oh awesome. 👍

[untold remnant]

MW Monk needs a mobility nerf, they did it with Vengeance DH, but it's crazy 😛 he can roll mid-air and double jump across the map

[lone anvil]

Yeah MW is so weird. Because no one considers them a strong threat as a healer. Like in shuffle or ladder they just aren't competitive. But they're strong in this one niche role and people want them nerfed in the one last thing they have.

I get though. When your team just has mages and warriors and no one wants to FC and the EFC is a MW you pretty much know the game is over before it starts

But let them have their moment in the sun lol. Its not like MW is getting representation anywhere else in PvP ATM

[runic trench]

[potent pivot]

Premed is still good

[vague comet]

is there a working shadowmeld stealth macro? mine doesnt seem to work

[potent pivot]

/stopattack
/cast [nostealth] shadowmeld
/cast [nocombat] !stealth```

sometimes you have to spam press them

so i'd recommend just spamming it every time

[runic trench]

when i duel

i drop target

how do i stop that from happening

its so annoying

[vague comet]

ye still not workign

[potent pivot]

/focus
/cast shadowy duel
/target focus
/targetlasttarget [noharm]
/clearfocus```

[runic trench]

thx

[potent pivot]

not sure. you're not the first person to say that recently tbh, but it's been working for me just fine so idk

are you sure you're pressing it without DoTs on you?

and you aren't standing in someone's AoE shit?

[vague comet]

bro im pressing it in the city

i press it once and i dont even shadowmeld

shadow meld goes on cd and im out of stealth

[runic trench]

i use the same macro

and it works

[stoic spruce]

Playing around that big ass absorb is fucking annoying when it's up for every burst

So to hell with mw

Fistweaving still exists too

On top of mentioned mobility. Stupid spec for stupid people

[stoic spruce]

You say this as if they haven't been in every other arena since SL

[lone anvil]

You feeling okay this morning? Did you get enough sleep?

[stoic spruce]

No I'm not okay. Mw sympathizers are here.

Worst metas ever

[lone anvil]

Haven't played since Cataclysm wouldn't know. But I'll ask you a question, has there ever been a point where Rogue wasn't in the meta? At least one of the three specs

Because any time I've played rogue has always been a high end top tier spec especially for 2s and 3s comp

[potent pivot]

this doesn't make any sense to me idk

[lone anvil]

And almost always one of the specs is A tier

[stoic spruce]

Not the same at all

[lone anvil]

K

[stoic spruce]

Lmk when monk is a triple dps class

You can make that same argument with mage and hunter

Mw is always meta for some stupid reason. Lo and behold, this time it's stupid levels of mobility. It's never just genuinely good healing. And when. It is, it's good healing with BS on top.

@halcyon timber knows what I'm talking about

I will say this

At least they're not rdudu

[lone anvil]

Lol you're fine. You're allowed to vent. I bitch and moan about the shit I don't like. Like when I hit a gate on my warlock and instantly get gripped back in by a DK and fucked over

[stoic spruce]

Or when the unholy dk dots everything from the opposite side of the arena

And I get no saps

[lone anvil]

Honestly. Maybe if it wasn't for the grind, id probably be attracted to one of the classic game play

[stoic spruce]

Those dks man. I swear there's one brain cell and all the minions and dk fight over it.

[lone anvil]

But I don't have time for that and retail is much more friendly on time for busy adults

[lone anvil]

Dude if we are venting though

How about that weird trick shamans do in Ashran where they use that totem that puts a cage around your team and then teleports the entire team outside of the room

With the totem movement ability

WTF is that

How can a character teleport an entire enemy team

[candid tide]

lmao

[lone anvil]

You know that move I'm talking about lol

[candid tide]

yes totemic projection

[stoic spruce]

aoe teleprts are so rough lol

[candid tide]

i just hate fighting shamans for the many totems one gotta get rid off all the time

[safe pelican]

6-0 first shuffle lobby of the day , piss poor MMR But it’s the principle 😎

It’s krazy how bad I am at assass without dance as a sub main the urge to dance and cheap the whole team off dr just courses through my veins at all times 😮‍💨

[stoic spruce]

When I destroy earth totem, the root should disappear

[indigo hill]

Aye but it doesn't. 😔

[solar sundial]

Should I target all the totems every time?

[candid tide]

not sure but i try to kill most of them often

like that stun one i try to kill before it gets off

link should def be sweeped

[solar sundial]

Capacitor

[velvet lichen]

Any in depth PvP guides to watch? Returning to rogue after a few year break

I know some stuff is changing soon with the .0.5 patch

[safe pelican]

First RBG ever on assass

On deephaul Ravine

What do i do ? 🤣😭

[potent pivot]

only certain ones

[potent pivot]

not really, can watch some streamer's gameplay

[velvet lichen]

Figured.

[potent pivot]

whaazz, nahj, kalvish etc

[rancid mist]

Trying to work towards 1.8k for the transmog and I am reminded how bad I am at PvP. What's the Rogue's job in RBG's - I assume enemy flag carrier destruction, healer control and guarding I guess?

[stoic spruce]

It's your fault trickz

[lone anvil]

Yes all of this. And In RBG to climb ranks you also have to fill in and do what you'd team doesn't do. So if no one on your team wants to carry the flag? Guess what lol

[rancid mist]

Yeah, that's what I assumed too

[lone anvil]

The other day I had 2 flag caps in WSG cause my team just wanted to fight mid

[rancid mist]

Haha, darn

[lone anvil]

But I prefer to hunt EFC

[rancid mist]

I'm trying RBG because I am just terrible at arena as Sub, and would rather play Sub.

[lone anvil]

From what I've heard everyone else say and from my own experience, Rbgs is the easiest path. I hit 1600 in a couple of days

But 1600 - 1800 I've been stuck at a little longer

[rancid mist]

Yeah

I can imagine

[safe pelican]

Won the first RBG 1st placement game at 1600mmr i was lost af but kinda fun tho

Def easier than arena rn but nothing gets the blood flowing like arena

[stoic spruce]

My first blitz was a 0-3 wsg and the person trying to lead was lying through his teeth

Saying no one was on efc

[safe pelican]

Lmaooooo if your leader is bad in a WSG it’s over from the start

[stoic spruce]

When I had 8 killing blows and 6 returns and all my KBs were of the efc. The dude saying "I've been staying on the efc."

Which

Was a lie

[lone anvil]

Oh when I say Rbg I mean blitz

[stoic spruce]

Yeah ik

[lone anvil]

I guess when you guys talk about leaders that's the coordinated 10 mans?

[stoic spruce]

I'm just venting again

I lead my own rbgs. I don't trust those hoes

Lol

The pvp leader in my friends guild is so bad at strats I don't want to play with yhem

Them

[lone anvil]

Lmao

[safe pelican]

That’s the best way

[outer sky]

@potent pivot Remind me again why you hate the Thick as Thieves talent so much?

[safe pelican]

If we lose I’ve got no one to blame but myself 😂 i like it better that way

[lone anvil]

Leader is only relevant in the organized RBGs right? In blitz the person with lead is just a random figurehead?

[stoic spruce]

Real

Yeah

[lone anvil]

Kk gotcha

[potent pivot]

it's in the name homie

[safe pelican]

I use thick as thieves cause i run double rogue but, needs to be timed correctly to be beneficial we do burst at the same time so it works for us

[outer sky]

it's not though. The name states your opinion not why you have it lol

[stoic spruce]

Wait for it

[potent pivot]

i've just always hated Tricks as an ability in and of itself

[safe pelican]

We often don’t run it as well depending on the comp

[stoic spruce]

It'll click on a minute

My charger keeps slipping from my phone

MW back at it again

[lone anvil]

Also NoTricks is an ironic name for someone who plays a stealth class

[rancid mist]

At least Blitz goes super quick

[safe pelican]

Shuffle pop brb kings

[lone anvil]

Generally the rogue/assassin archetype is synonymous with being a little bit of a trickster

The irony isn't lost on me. I appreciate it

[potent pivot]

for Thick as Thieves i just don't see much value in it personally

unless specifically in voiced 3s in a decent set up meta

[stoic spruce]

It's been so long since I talented out of smoke tbh

[cursive cosmos]

The extra 15% can be make or break in rmp like comp

[potent pivot]

like if fire rmp is good and you can actually kill someone in a set up, i'd use it sure

[stoic spruce]

Double dps 2s

[lone anvil]

If you guys have been in any other of the class discords. There's no way to react to comments. Like thumbs up thumbs down or fire emoji. rogue discord is the only one I've been in with that enabled

We are so much cooler than literally everyone elae

[stoic spruce]

Yeah the others are stupid

[potent pivot]

quite a few of them have it enabled lol

[stoic spruce]

Acherus is probably one of the worse about it tbh

Can't change your nickname

No reactions

Etc

[potent pivot]

DH, pally, monk discords all have it

hunter and shaman too

[stoic spruce]

Does monk still need phone number verification

[lone anvil]

I play druid, rogue and warlock. I'm in all 3 and rogue is the only one where I can emote

[potent pivot]

mage and evoker as well

[stoic spruce]

Mage is a good disc

Just stay away from arcane

[potent pivot]

there's more with it enabled than not

[stoic spruce]

Something in the water there

[lone anvil]

Why do people disable it

[potent pivot]

harrassment

[lone anvil]

There's so many times I don't want to reply to a post and a thumbs up is the perfect amount of engagement I'm looking for

[potent pivot]

or maybe you don't get reacts unless you reach certain thresholds idk

[lone anvil]

Ahhhh maybe

[potent pivot]

but people also use the emote letters to spell shit

sometimes ToS shit

[lone anvil]

I find it funny when people spell shit tbh
Its a lot of commitment to search for every letter

[lone anvil]

ToS?

[potent pivot]

terms of service

saying or doing something ToS basically just means breaking the rules of whatever platform/game you're using

[stoic spruce]

You can't talk about playing on a private server in acherus

But I do anyway cuz screw em

[potent pivot]

are they a partnered server?

[stoic spruce]

No

[potent pivot]

because that kinda makes sense

[stoic spruce]

They also have a rule about "the spirit of a rule"

Whatever tf that means

They're the MW of class discords

[lone anvil]

Idk if I have an unfortunate personality that is abrasive to people. Or perhaps they just don't like new faces. But the druid discord seems filled with a lot of salty dogs lmao

[stoic spruce]

Always some stupid shit

I'm not in that one as I don't usually spend my time around lesser beings.

[lone anvil]

There are weirdos who scrutinize and attack me Everytime I post and it's always like the same 3 people lol

They seem obsessed

[potent pivot]

that's basically just a way of saying it's up to their own discretion whether or not they deem something to be against the rules

we have basically the same thing here

[stoic spruce]

That's dumb

[stoic spruce]

You in the warrior discord

[lone anvil]

No lol

[solar sundial]

Very vague🙌

[lone anvil]

Is it a bunch of chads

Is it ret paladin Chet coded

[stoic spruce]

It's a bit of a hive mind

[lone anvil]

Interesting

[stoic spruce]

A bit I say

It's a full fledged hivemind

The whole 9

It was so hard to get fury info back in sl when arms was OP

[hidden moth]

I press zug and then i press zug yuh

[jolly bear]

are sub and sin pretty much equal rn?

[stoic spruce]

I never got the info actually now that I think about it

[hidden moth]

I mean, when u are playing a dps class with multipul dps specs why would u play the sub optimal spec when the other is op

[stoic spruce]

Are you stupid?

Sorry that's mean

[hidden moth]

thats like signing up for a relay race and picking the kid in a wheel chair as ur partner

[jolly bear]

yes I am

[stoic spruce]

Are you fuckin stupid?

That's better

[stoic spruce]

Where you been

[safe pelican]

No one prioritizes CC and burst dmg during major cooldowns & the other prioritizes spreading bleed pressure to all targets

[jolly bear]

playing literally anything but rogue

[stoic spruce]

Answer the question

[jolly bear]

idk why it just felt like trash for a while

[safe pelican]

Sub has a hard learning curve

[stoic spruce]

Nothing interesting about it yeah

[jolly bear]

sub is all about dark brew rupture sepsis and it breaks my heart which is why I'm asking. if i wanted to play bleeds I'd go sin

[hidden moth]

what question

[lone anvil]

Sounds like you know

[jolly bear]

so if one is better than the other ill play that one but if theyre the same

[stoic spruce]

.5 saves rogue dw

[safe pelican]

Lmaoooo so why the fuck you ask me then

[lone anvil]

It just depends on what you're pushing for and what you're comfortable on

[stoic spruce]

Not true

Play what one shots this time around

[jolly bear]

i play them pretty evenly but i play sub in pvp and sin only as pve

[stoic spruce]

Ggez

Don't be a one trick like me

[jolly bear]

idek how to play sub in pve

[lone anvil]

Ive heard assassination is easier for new people to pick up and I've also heard sub can be hard in shuffle cause it's more coordination dependent. I haven't check win% and play rate % for sub and sin in shuffle vs 3s

[jolly bear]

put me in an m+ ill have no idea what to press

[jolly bear]

I was having the time of my life when The Rotten was meta

feels like a long time ago....

then this bleed shit happened when they nerfed it and never recovered

[safe pelican]

It’s just pad dmg not the end of the world it’s not like you press rupture every time you have max CP after the 11.0.5 patch rolls in then we can complain

[jolly bear]

lmao whats happening there? all I know is we lose shadowdust

[safe pelican]

Losing CDR is major for sub

Many wins have been made off that single talent

[stoic spruce]

[jolly bear]

gg!

[lone anvil]

Feral is a pretty strong rogue spec rn

[jolly bear]

so I've heard

[spring bough]

Wannabe rogues lol

[lone anvil]

Honestly better, cause meow meow

[jolly bear]

yeah im going sin until they fucking fix sub and shift it away from bleeds. if i wanted to play bleeds id just play sin

[jolly bear]

also we lose shadowdust in a month

so

[spring bough]

Time to go outlaw

[jolly bear]

absolutely not

[spring bough]

Keep that CDR

[jolly bear]

not until crackshot dies

[spring bough]

If they took CDR off outlaw I’d probably quit

[jolly bear]

i wouldnt blame u

[stoic spruce]

Based

There's a couple good non crackshot builds though

[jolly bear]

i just dont get why they keep making these gimmicks

[stoic spruce]

Yeah idk

[spring bough]

All I need is melee. A builder. A finisher. All to do a good amount of damage

[jolly bear]

and then they take away SD from outlaw while leaving crackshot lmao

[spring bough]

I do like that melee damage is usually up towards my top overall. Nice seeing that back

[stoic spruce]

That was a good change though tbf

Not a crackshot fan but that helped

[lone anvil]

Its a 20 year old game so they feel like they have to add shit to make it fresh and maybe they do or we would all be on classic. But sometimes they're out of ideas so they come up with duds

[jolly bear]

no it is, but leaving crackshot as is was dumb af and it forces u to go double vanish

[rancid mist]

Hell yeah, first RBG win. Sat the flag, stopped the EFC and didn't get bogged down.

[jolly bear]

SD shoulda always been sub only

[stoic spruce]

Vanish resets bte cooldown in .5

Vanish is such a loaded button now

[spring bough]

Yeah can’t give up double vanish now

[jolly bear]

ah yes another cooldown to manage instead of using it as a defensive

i feel like we keep getting slapped across the face and told we like it

[lone anvil]

I still prefer to primarily use vanish as a defensive tbh

[stoic spruce]

As you should

[lone anvil]

Alot of assassination mains use it for burst

[spring bough]

I don’t I just slam it for max dmg 😂

[lone anvil]

Hell yeah bröther

[jolly bear]

have to for IC esp if ur stupid ass tank decides to chain pull instead of give u 2 seconds to stealth between packs

[potent pivot]

every spec is forced to go double vanish

[jolly bear]

the only ones you can change is the middle shifting to either the right or left and 90% of the time its to the right

we have no choices

[stoic spruce]

Well

Every spec goes 7cp now too

Unless that changed recently

[hidden moth]

see some top ass rogues only go 6 cp and take the fok talent

[jolly bear]

i havent updated my talents yet

[hidden moth]

in blitz

[lone anvil]

Does a 7CP kidney last 7 seconds

[jolly bear]

no

[hidden moth]

no

[stoic spruce]

No

[lone anvil]

Damn

[stoic spruce]

Max is 5 cp anyway

[hidden moth]

5 points for 6 seconds if u have 6 points it will leave u at 1 after use

[jolly bear]

but cyclone lasts 6 and doesnt get DRed by anything

and has no cd

[hidden moth]

cyclone drs

[stoic spruce]

With itself

[spring bough]

Cyclone is the biggest bs

[hidden moth]

it dr with disorients

[jolly bear]

since when? is that new or am i just dumb

[hidden moth]

uh

ur dumb

[jolly bear]

kk just making sure

[hidden moth]

its dr with blind since tbc

[potent pivot]

[hidden moth]

iirc if not tbc then wotlk

[stoic spruce]

Regardless, cyclone still dumb.

[jolly bear]

so is bear sitting

[hidden moth]

no no blind dr cyclone in tbc i remmebr bc i was doign rogue r druid 2v2

[stoic spruce]

Anything druid related tbh

[spring bough]

Wannabe rogues

[hidden moth]

druids are wanna be rogue, warriors, mages, and priests

[stoic spruce]

I've never had fun in a druid meta

[lone anvil]

What else DRs with blind

I was in an AB fighting a warrior on the mine. I used blind and then went for the cap and it ended and he interrupted before I got the cap and blind is 8 seconds and flag cap is 5 seconds?

[hidden moth]

i linked a picture

[stoic spruce]

A second blind

[jolly bear]

i remember when i was playing shuffle boomkins literally did all their dmg with sunfire moonfire spam and never casted anything except fucking cyclone and just sat bear if they were getting low

[stoic spruce]

From another rogue

Hope you didn't have bleeds up ;)

I am that guy

Screw your dots

[hidden moth]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/diminishing-returns-in-pvp-6024

[stoic spruce]

I'm dying

[lone anvil]

I don't understand what I'm looking at. All these CCs in this image share Drs with each other

[maiden cliff]

u guys think outlaw will be good in pvp with the new dmg buffs coming?

[hidden moth]

also fear dr cyclone

[spring bough]

If you wanna get mean whispers play aoe blind in solo

[stoic spruce]

It's good now

[lone anvil]

Oh maybe. I forget tbh

[potent pivot]

was already fine

[jolly bear]

im pretty sure i hated druids more than anything else in the game

paladins were a close second. ret is ranged dps change my mind

[hidden moth]

exactly

[lone anvil]

I'm sorry I gotta stop the druid hate here and now guys. I'm a rogue main but druids are objectively the coolest fucking class in the game

[stoic spruce]

Kick hpal win game

[stoic spruce]

Get out

Mw sympathizing was bad enough

[jolly bear]

druid is a cool concept but all 4 specs are literally the most boring things to play

i dont think ive ever had fun playing druid

[stoic spruce]

I've never had fun playing a/with/against a druid

[lone anvil]

They can be cats. Literally a cat form and then a travel form that's a cheetah.

In open world. What's more of a menace for war mode.

You can typhoon people off cliffs. You have stealth. You can instantly go flight form.

Boomkin?! Treants? Literally what else is as cool as druid.

They have 4 specs. You can melee dps caster dps, tank and heal

[jolly bear]

yeah and theyre all boring as shit

[spring bough]

I like killing the healing Trents. It gets them mad

[lone anvil]

Look my druid is 75 he's not even 80 and I haven't played in a long time

I just think druids deserve all of the love

[jolly bear]

ur delulu

[hidden moth]

no way bro is defending "Furry's R Us"

[lone anvil]

I can't remember when boomkin has been meta in 2v2. Its always a very niche playstyle. Especially in classic and TBC you needed balls to play balance in PvE or PvP

[jolly bear]

if i could delete something from the game #1 would be all gnomes and #2 would be druids

[lone anvil]

You shoulda been here the other night when I went on my spiel about how gnomes are S tier race for any class

[stoic spruce]

DF

And before that SL

Pm all of SL

[lone anvil]

I didnt play then so that's not real

[stoic spruce]

Lol

[jolly bear]

can someone explain why they keep fucking locking the mmr cap until like 3 months in

[stoic spruce]

Well you've got catching up to do because boomie has been popping off in 2s since forever

[lone anvil]

I played Ret pally and my neighbor mained boomkin, classic - WOTLK. Neither was meta by itself. Low DPS in trials/raids and bad in 2s.

And we did 2s together. And wrecked shit

[jolly bear]

i genuinely do not understand

[lone anvil]

But that's before nerds minmaxed everything arena used to be easier to play off meta

Now days only double DPS comp is apparently mage/rogue and it has under a 50% win rate

[hidden moth]

@lone anvil now that my blitz ended the chart i linked shows the dr catagory and every ability in that catagory. if they share a catagory with something else that means they dr each other and ofc every ability drs itself

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/diminishing-returns-in-pvp-6024

[spring bough]

Bout to play some SOD and have no DRs

[lone anvil]

I think the only argument I really need to make for druids is, cats bro

You literally get to be a cat

[hidden moth]

Just be a hunter u can have 4+

[spring bough]

You can have two cats as a hunter

[lone anvil]

This guy gets it

[hidden moth]

no no

[lone anvil]

Druids and Hunter cat meta

[jolly bear]

i hate cats

[hidden moth]

I am still spewing druid slander

[hidden moth]

Im allergic

[lone anvil]

What are you even doing here

You hate gnomes, druids and cats

[jolly bear]

spewing druid slander

[lone anvil]

You dont belong in the rogue discord

[jolly bear]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-anyway-gif-19022587

[lone anvil]

My brother hates all things cute and wonderful

[jolly bear]

this game is called world of WARcraft not my little pony

[hidden moth]

My little kitty*

[jolly bear]

they got fur same thing

wait why are sin rogues not taking kingsbane wtf

[lone anvil]

Chill. Its an animated wizard and elf game. And the animation is childish compared to darker MMOs like ESo. You're not boxing people IRL lol

[hidden moth]

deleting that b4 tos comes after me

[hidden moth]

it does like 60% reduced damage in pvp

[jolly bear]

bruh

[hidden moth]

and hard to get a huge set up for it to pay off

[potent pivot]

[hidden moth]

also without dtb u dont get full value as easily

[jolly bear]

so the main cooldown next to deathmark is useless in pvp... amazing

[hidden moth]

shhhh it was pg 13

[potent pivot]

it's not useless

[hidden moth]

just maybe offensive

[potent pivot]

i saw it

[hidden moth]

oh no

Tricks am i wrong about kingsbane?

[jolly bear]

idk what to do without kingsbane lmao just spam envenom?

[potent pivot]

spread dots

[jolly bear]

well yeah but after

[hidden moth]

keep garrote rupture and ct up then envenoms

[potent pivot]

kinda yeah

[jolly bear]

sigh

[potent pivot]

the initial hit is nerfed by 20% in pvp iirc, that's all

[hidden moth]

but remembrer hitting a shiv right before sending that 7 point darkest night envenom is CRISP

[stoic spruce]

No but the people playing make me wish I could strangle them through the internet.

[spring bough]

Should play sod with all these grandpas. Will look like a god

[jolly bear]

the nostalgia + craziness must hit different

[spring bough]

Having shadowstep is kinda cool in classic lol

[hidden moth]

doing that will send me to god

[potent pivot]

chill out

[lone anvil]

I'll save my druid love for those who get it IYKYK

[hidden moth]

i checked and u right pvp mod is .8 of normal damage in pvp for initial but dot dam the same

can we get mark to dup bleeds at 100% and not 50% though

[jolly bear]

so its not that nerfed?

[potent pivot]

compared to DF it's much worse

[maiden cliff]

bring back plunder armor!

[potent pivot]

because it's also gotten nerfs that aren't pvp modifier nerfs

[hidden moth]

^

also dtb is big on getting its dot stacks up

and we dont run that

[jolly bear]

well damn that sucks

[jolly sierra]

i hate elves im ok? lol

[safe pelican]

I’m running without kingsbane rn kinda just copied Nahj i like it but i like the burst from kingsbane

[jolly bear]

it just feels so wrong to not have kingsbane

[lone anvil]

Yeah, you're good 🙏🏼

[potent pivot]

"burst"

envenom hits as hard as KB basically now

[hidden moth]

without dtb ur mutilates autos etc only have a chance to apply 2 poisons not 4 so 1 mutilate goes as 2 hits x2 poison x application rate 60% with envenom up vs 1 mutilate 2 hits x4 poison x53% with envenom up

kb?

[stoic spruce]

SoD has a better outlaw than Retail

[jolly sierra]

i havet played assa before s3 then

KB is just an EZ thro me win button

nerfed as fuck

and requiring a lot of maintenance to make it work in TWW

[lone anvil]

I haven't been seeing many people have KB talent for 3s but I do see it on a lot of the 2s builds

[jolly sierra]

in 2s is used as the alternative just because u cant cleave everybody

[jolly bear]

CT useless in 2s?

[jolly sierra]

but if there are stronger options then u surely wont pick it

[lone anvil]

Yeah and it's easier to sit on people for longer periods.

[safe pelican]

The quotes is crazy you on demon time today 🤣

[jolly sierra]

did i said CT?

[jolly bear]

no im asking

[jolly sierra]

i was reffering to IC

[lone anvil]

Indiscriminate carnage I assume?

Such a carry for big damage lol

[safe pelican]

Everybody on demon time today 😂

[jolly sierra]

im a demon 24/7

[jolly bear]

im just mad they keep making rogue less and less fun and i got no sleep

[jolly sierra]

just behave milder most of time lol

[spring bough]

Ima try to get level 20 today and go saber slash build lol

[jolly sierra]

i barely sleep now dude

but ur function mainly

[spring bough]

One rune auto gives ur attacks instant poison which then triggers deadly poisons. Literally don’t need to make them in sod

[jolly sierra]

is to slap the healer w ccs

not doing dmg

[lone anvil]

Guys. I want you to be realistic with me

I know you guys all hate druids. But put that aside to give me some honest feedback.

My druid is 75 he's going to be 80 this week. The plan has been this entire time to go resto. But @lyric onyx was telling me tp go feral if I main assassination he said id like it more and told me to make a priest.

What y'all think. Is resto that bad rn?

[jolly bear]

ive seen everyone say resto is complete garbage

pve and pvp

maybe they exaggerating

[jolly sierra]

go feral

[spring bough]

Do you like healing? I’d answer that and then decide lol

[lone anvil]

I love resto and don't wanna be a meta slut. Meta hopper type

[jolly sierra]

they didnt nerfed their stun

[lone anvil]

I do want a healer

[jolly sierra]

and i hate ferocious bite

[lone anvil]

I just don't want to be F tier

[jolly sierra]

hmmmm

then use a DP

[lone anvil]

Even B tier is fine

[jolly sierra]

safest option

[lone anvil]

DP feels so flavor of the month. And for one it's hard to respect people who just play the most broken shit and for two or could be nerfed in a week

[jolly bear]

what is dp

[vague comet]

so im trying to soloq on assa now after hitting 1.9 on sub. and it's so unplayable

[lone anvil]

Don't type dp into your work computer

[vague comet]

i am going 1.7-1.8 back and forrth

[lone anvil]

Wait until you're alone and it's dark

[jolly bear]

oh

[vague comet]

can anyone tell me what the fuck do I do against dragons and paladins who just remove my bleeds with 1 button?

[jolly bear]

cry

[hidden moth]

Get owned

[lone anvil]

Soft gentle forehead kisses. Paladins are homophobic

[hidden moth]

Wait no

[potent pivot]

reapply them

[hidden moth]

Complain on forums

[lyric onyx]

for me playing disc isnt about the meta, its about learning priest in general.. rogue + priest is the most common 2's pair we usually have as rogue so playing a priest helps you learn what your partner is capable of

[vague comet]

they remove my deathmark bro

[jolly bear]

yeah i cry

[vague comet]

im not in the mood for jokes tbh

pretty ttilted right now

[potent pivot]

deathmark is trash anyway

so it doesn't matter

truly

[jolly sierra]

priest is always a safe bet as healer

either holy or disc will be viable

[lone anvil]

That's truly S tier solid advice.

But three of my friends take turns healing our groups. One is Prevoker. One is rshammy and one is Hpally

[jolly sierra]

tbh would never use one because i hate healing lol

[lone anvil]

I guess I could go disc just to give us another option

But I never have a priest healing me

[jolly sierra]

dont deathmark till the pally uses his inmunities or LOH in the dragon case wait till he trinkets

[jolly bear]

well good to know deathmark sucks, so its all about bleeds and cc huh

[rocky vale]

Can anyone give me some tips for assa in frost+mm lobbies? Esp with a 2nd melee.

I feel like its an inevitable 2-4 where mm beats mage and the 2 melee just loses to frost mm

[jolly sierra]

go sub

assa needs a healer

[rocky vale]

I dont wanna 😦

[lone anvil]

FR

[hidden moth]

R druid is dog water

[rocky vale]

I hate being reliant on cds

[hidden moth]

and its good that it is tired of it being stier in pvp since slands

[potent pivot]

they're talking about shuffle i think

[potent pivot]

play fatebound and double step or the snare reduction talent

[rocky vale]

Shuffle

Im doing that

[jolly bear]

yeah and sin needs a healer, maybe u have one maybe u dont lol

[rocky vale]

Doesnt feel enough

[jolly sierra]

AAAAAHHHHHHHH

[hidden moth]

either disc is viable or priest is unplayable

[jolly sierra]

why would care about a SS if all are randoms

u would have a god frost later tho

[jolly bear]

are the shuffle queues still atrocious

time wise

[jolly sierra]

ahh nvm im bad reading

lemme see

[rocky vale]

Even with double step I feel like I cant realistically go cc the healers cos I then Ill never get back to the dps

[jolly sierra]

save ur shadowsteps for frost after blink

[rocky vale]

If you rotate bgb and shuffle its decent

[hidden moth]

^

[jolly sierra]

blind hunter in burst

he will trinket

[hidden moth]

or have a 2nd account

[jolly sierra]

then disarm

[jolly bear]

like queue both same time?

[rocky vale]

Yes

[hidden moth]

legit be qued for shuffle on 2 toons lol

[candid tide]

shuffle is actually not that long q if u divide 10-15min qing to 6 games

so thats like 3min a q or some

[jolly sierra]

mage trade cloak in icy veins

and hide in pillars

restealth a lot

[jolly bear]

thats copium imo

[jolly sierra]

against casters u must do that

[rocky vale]

Yeah I guess I gotta do that nore

[candid tide]

ive played solo q before on arena tournament but its 1 game per q, not much diff

[rocky vale]

Ty

[jolly sierra]

unless u wanna force the ice block

dont deathmark

[rocky vale]

Wont help my partners from zugging tho

But it is what it is

[jolly bear]

doesnt that mean with ss that you are waiting significantly more between times where ur actually playing the game

[rocky vale]

Im always focused on peeling hunter in cds but the mages still die on my side

[candid tide]

a sec

[jolly sierra]

stun more the hunter

[rocky vale]

Im doing it as much as I can but then I feel like nothing dies cos heals are free

[jolly sierra]

gouge the aimed shot and the rapid fire

[candid tide]

so waith like 10-15mins for a q average at 1600, but ull get 6 games, each games duration averages 2min, so idk its kinda balance out ug

[jolly sierra]

the main problem

is even gouging

u will get shot with 3 arrows from that volley

which ran stray before u could react

[jolly bear]

how bad is the kneecap for sub losing shadowdust

[jolly sierra]

idk

[rocky vale]

And should I be focusing hunter then if its frost hunter vs me? Cos I was more on focusing mage to stop their casts

[jolly sierra]

hmmmmm

well

mage is worse because he can spam ccs

so should be the safest target

u should cc the hunter all the possible

in trueshot aura if u blind them

there is a very high chance they will trinket

u can

1. disarm or gouge
2. dot up, trinket, kidney and smoke bomb

[potent pivot]

there's really zero way of knowing

[jolly sierra]

but u need to control more the other guy

[potent pivot]

they're still making changes

[jolly sierra]

to make smoother ur gameplay

[indigo hill]

The amount of people complaining about rogue being OP because subtefurge is crazy. 😂

[jolly sierra]

bruh

[indigo hill]

Even worse there is a monk complaining about the cc of a Rogue. Forums are a comedy goldmine.

[jolly sierra]

lit the guy from the strong aoe stun and ranged gouges?

damn that should be tough

[hidden moth]

I love sap sap sap, cheap, cheap blind, vanish, into sap sap sap on mw fc's

before they even get out of mid

My favorite is when they die, and i meet them in the gy they just spawned in and then do it to them

[candid tide]

mages are slippery but if u can stick to their ass its a nightmare for them

[lucid lark]

Link?

[indigo hill]

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/rogues-need-nerfs/541767

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/link-legend-of-zelda-shocked-gif-21588499

[lucid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/legend-of-zelda-botw-totk-link-thumbs-up-gif-17944850775285823178

[candid tide]

cooldown to cs lmao

whats left of a rogue

[potent pivot]

cloak better than bubble?

this guy sounds like an idiot

[hidden moth]

cs?

[potent pivot]

cheapshot

[jolly sierra]

our aesthetics

[jolly sierra]

WTB auto bubble for assa

[lucid lark]

I'd argue this guy is speaking from a blitz perspective where u can literally cloak cap, bomb cap, sap(trinket)blind a single base sitter. Imo sub is probably the best melee in the game in the blitz context for sheer influence you can have

[potent pivot]

some people are just so out of touch man

it blows my mind

[lucid lark]

but i main WW so saying WW has no CC is wild. I run comedy specials all day long on my ww

[jolly sierra]

cloak cap is funny af

[potent pivot]

i mean stuff like that i can agree with getting nerfed, but at the same time, we've ALWAYS been able to cap like that

for a very long time, until stuff was nerfed or changed

that's probably a big reason they lowered cap times for blitz, so you COULD do those things

we're not the only class capable of doing it we just have more options ig

[lucid lark]

I don't think it should be nerfed, I think that if you get cloak capped and didn't think to run up and melee the rogue or something else then that's on you. There's counterplayer to everything except the sap/blind gambit on a solo base sitter

But the solution is to only let pet specs sit or double sit

[jolly sierra]

nah just get closer and hit them in the head w a staff

[potent pivot]

ye he said melee the rogue :d

[jolly sierra]

oh

ye

ironically is the best solution

[steep kiln]

[jolly sierra]

sure delete all other rog specs then

[lucid lark]

ye if dk gets 2 grips and mw gets six chi torpedo then rogues get 2 steps

actually give rogues 3 steps

[jolly sierra]

give us back MFD

and burst of speed ty

[potent pivot]

"i main sub rogue"

that's what he meant to say

[jolly sierra]

basically

how selfish

[steep kiln]

right.. feel like he thinks everyone only plays sub. and the game is pvp only or something. delusional take

[lone anvil]

Give them a whole staircase

[hidden moth]

I think ass could use a buff to bleed damage, bout 15%

[hidden moth]

and uh while we are at it a 3 second silence is a little light. make garrote silence 5 seconds then 2.5

hmmm oh and kidney needs to be a 15 second cd

[jolly sierra]

dude u can stun rog in evasion

[hidden moth]

step kidney gets em every time

[jolly sierra]

that is a strong downside to his opinion not knowing that

[jolly sierra]

or just cheap shot

[hidden moth]

No dance

[steep kiln]

Shad on there doing good work

[jolly sierra]

ye but if u vanish or shit

[hidden moth]

if u vanish u dont need to step em ye?

[jolly sierra]

no

[hidden moth]

bc they cant dodge an attack made from stelth?

[potent pivot]

would love to watch any of these complainers try to play rogue

[hidden moth]

damn nvm

[jolly sierra]

cheap shot bypass everything but inmunities and turtles

same for ambush and fok

[potent pivot]

it's the same every expansion though

never ending complaining about rogue

even though it's one of the highest skill cap classes in the game

[steep kiln]

"most OP braindead class" least played dps in the game

[jolly sierra]

like the stupid hunter who complained for the stroke talent for assa

[steep kiln]

[hidden moth]

They just mad we got our drippy ass set, and they got some kindergarden art project paper machet wings glued to their backs

like what even are these

[lone anvil]

Which drippy ass set? Maybe it's just because I play orc but the conquest gear/ tier shoukders look so bad for rogue. The helm is cool

[steep kiln]

Ya this guys unhinged holy shit

[lone anvil]

Shoulders are way to big and bulky for what should be a sheik/stealthy silent assassin

[hidden moth]

thats the pally set

and this is our drippy set

[lone anvil]

Whatever one this one is

Looks ugly as shit on my orc

[hidden moth]

imagine playing a rogue thats not nelf

actually trolling

pvp and pve

[jolly sierra]

ask him to never post ever again in forums if he will do those claims lol

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-i-am-yes-i-am-gif-4799231

[lone anvil]

Imagine being such a meta hopper you play alliance to carry you and play meld to carry you.

[steep kiln]

I'd shake the hand of the rogue that triggered him 🤝 if your in here bless

seems like a wpvp take

[lone anvil]

In the MMOs I'm used tp people play off meta to prove their skill and make fun of meta sluts

[jolly sierra]

i recall going to forums in US with a trial acc just to argue against a hunter

which just complained about assa

[hidden moth]

ill 1v1 u rn any class say the word

[jolly sierra]

just told him if was normal to bandage all bleeds and have so easy buttons to make a kill

[jolly sierra]

XD

[lone anvil]

Of course you will. I just came back a month ago after not playing since 2012. Gimme some time to get shit down and I'm all yours BBG

(be patient, I'm worth the wait 🥵)

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/internet-fight-punch-fight-gif-12403062

[steep kiln]

I just like the poison theme / bleeds the most. always been my fav spec since i can remember, but i enjoy playing all 3

[lucid lark]

u pick nelf because it's meta, I pick nelf because I've always been a nelf back when picking anything but human for perception was considered throwing

we r not the same

[hidden moth]

ive pl;ayed ally all my life btw

[jolly sierra]

i dont pick elf because im racist and hate them

[lucid lark]

valid

[jolly sierra]

and was happy when teldrassil was burnt

[steep kiln]

[jolly sierra]

because they were pricks almost all the time before that

[lucid lark]

im hope your turtle drowns bro tbh

big stupid turtle

in the middle of the ocean. what's it even doing?

[jolly sierra]

dw im a wanderer

i can live everywhere

[lone anvil]

Same. My first character was a human ret pally. When I came back i heard ally had all the best racials so I went horde

[lucid lark]

i wish NEs were more savage like they were depicted in WC

[jolly sierra]

u have em in sod

tho

[hidden moth]

same

[jolly sierra]

the masked racist lady from quest

which hates alliance too

[lucid lark]

that cinematic of malfurion dragging that troll into the earth with entangling roots and suffocating him went so hard and then they just... didn't go that direction again

[steep kiln]

feel like all the alli use to play human cuz racial, rarely saw nelf rogues for awhile there

[lucid lark]

i always picked NE because "improved death" was hilarious to me

[jolly sierra]

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/season-of-discovery-lore-the-night-elf-rebellion-that-wants-kalimdor-for-the-337775

this one

[lucid lark]

and beating human rogues without perception was a great feeling

[lucid lark]

the problem here is that I'd have to play SoD

[jolly sierra]

huge deal

[hidden moth]

Books have malfurian having roots grow through his enemies blood veins and sprouting thick thorns throughout their cardiovascular system

[jolly sierra]

malfurion snapped the neck from a guy w plants in the war of thorns i recall

[lone anvil]

I have some allys too, and they're all gnome. Because anything looks funnier as a gnome

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/gnomed-gnome-youve-been-gnomed-gif-16782193

[steep kiln]

I started UD then was a troll rogue for ages for pve purposes. Been orc since the end of bfa though

[jolly sierra]

ive played well till 2k3 as pandaren

[hidden moth]

ive legit lost arenas bc of allies being gnomes

[jolly sierra]

it becomes complicated as elite

but if u have a good base

u should play well

without NE

opposite to *some * people claimed here

[indigo hill]

Yeah he pulls an Orc underground. If you look closely you see one of the roots entering the orcs eye and mouth/. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLKS0Jq9U_E Look at 1:28.

[steep kiln]

I'm going dwarf if i go alli no doubt

[hidden moth]

the mists map with the 2 statues and 2 platforms, i normally would have been able to heal him from where i was on a platform, bc he was a gnome he was short and it was "los"

[lone anvil]

Yeah but they looked good as shitm which is what matters most. And how many have you won because of the gnomes being small, cute, vicious, hard to target and taking out enemy knee caps?

[hidden moth]

Sure if u wanna run around looking like peter dinklitch all day

[jolly sierra]

no hostilities but

tbh i hate gnomes too and i wanna to kick em like a rugby ball

[lone anvil]

You guys are going to make me Roofus again

[jolly sierra]

because the fuckers have those shitty smug faces

[hidden moth]

Wait did he say "hard to target"?

[jolly sierra]

while are attacking u

[hidden moth]

how is he hard to target?

[jolly sierra]

but love them

when they die

because they slip

KEK

[hidden moth]

arena 123 binds, click nameplates, tab target lol

[hidden moth]

that reminds me of a w/a we had in my guild in tbc classic. when a mage died it made a squeeky toy sound

[jolly sierra]

XDDDD

there is a gnome

[hidden moth]

bc mages were required to play gnome for racial

[jolly sierra]

in the deeprun trail

which insta respawns

if u kill him

[hidden moth]

lollol

[jolly sierra]

u can even write stuff w his respawned corpse

[hidden moth]

in the collection manager the red set looks som uch better but after getting the purple 1800 set im like... this is wayyyy better than item manager

[jolly sierra]

tbh i prefer the purple one

i can mix it w dreadflame illusion

love that term lol

[lone anvil]

Ok ok....so bear with me with the drip because I haven't done anything with the transmog (he's an alt)

But look at MY ROOFUS just look at him

Admittedly fury warriors are the coolest gnomes. But Warlock Gnomes are still So. Fucking. Cool

[lucid lark]

[hidden moth]

Where that from

Is holy fire the wep enchant for 1950

[jolly sierra]

BFA older illusion from duelist

[hidden moth]

whjats this seasons

[jolly sierra]

s4

[hidden moth]

i hit 1950 is it in the mail box or sum

s4?

[jolly sierra]

BFA s4

corrupted gladiator season

[hidden moth]

holy fire is from bfa s4

what is s1 war within wep enchant

[narrow tangle]

but how, doesnt shadow blade already gives you max cp

im no good with tww mechanics

[jolly sierra]

?????????????????????????????????????????

what the fuck

[hidden moth]

oh

[jolly sierra]

what did u asked in the first place

[hidden moth]

i see the confusion

ye

bfa s4 dreadflame

[jolly sierra]

ye

[hidden moth]

holy fire wep enchant is s1 of war within ye 1950

[jolly sierra]

ye

[lucid lark]

premed is free finisher every stealth or dance. why wouldn't it be good?

[hidden moth]

going back to mark of the shadowmoon

[jolly sierra]

F

[hidden moth]

the flame doesnt match

the purple from mark is better

[jolly sierra]

the thing is the purple is intense af

compared to shadowmoon

so u get a more intimidating appearance

[hidden moth]

i dont have dreadflame

didnt play bfa

[jolly sierra]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAsF5DlILNC/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[jolly sierra]

its ok

[hidden moth]

Do I finally shell out big gold for good enchants lol

[potent pivot]

[safe pelican]

The enchants cost an arm and a leg but are so worth it they’re hella overpowered rn

T3 Radiant power procs are so nice

[last jasper]

During previous awc it proced for a mil

[safe pelican]

That’s crazy highest I got so far was like 700K that I was able to track at least love when it procs in shuffle on a kill go

Chefs kiss

[indigo hill]

Look at how it can be in Blitz. 😭 ❤️

[novel dirge]

Does anyone know what this unit frame addon is? Trying to disable it.

[potent pivot]

gladius

looks like you need to reinstall it or something

[novel dirge]

Thanks!

[spring bough]

Did everyone know u can shadow duel a priest in ultimate penance

https://youtube.com/shorts/-c-G9xeaSss?si=FmBSQSQoD5xjCO2M

[potent pivot]

idk about everyone but yes

[long shore]

does anyone know how to get rid of that small sap icon over the nameplate?

i can already see the big one

think its the default blizz debuffs, but cant find the option to turn it off

[rotund pumice]

Can just add to blacklist in bbp

[potent pivot]

Only way I’m aware of is to use a nameplate addon and remove it through the addon somehow

[hidden moth]

I have 2x t2 rn considering 2 t2 is the price of 1 t3 lol

[long shore]

i think bbp is causing this

[potent pivot]

Nah that would be there anyway

Open the settings and find the blacklist and add Sap to it

[rotund pumice]

Go into nameplate auras in bbp and add sap to the blacklist

[long shore]

i wanna disable debuffs completely so the small icons stop showing up though

any idea?

[hard orbit]

what's the best use for bloody tokens for a freshly dinged lvl 80?

[potent pivot]

As long as you can buy belt/cloak to hold onto, use all excess tokens on any big pieces to help speed up the gearing process

You’ll replace everything in the long run, belt/cloak would be the last 2 pieces of token gear you’d replace

[potent pivot]

Why would you wanna do that tho

Oh you’re playing outlaw I guess debuffs don’t matter

Idk if you can disable it entirely I’ve never tried

I know you can blacklist all of your own debuffs though I guess

[hard orbit]

so belt/cloak because you'd get conquest gear on other pieces? I don't fully understand

[potent pivot]

We replace all bloody token gear eventually

Cloak/belt are the last ones we replace

[hard orbit]

and the reason I don't get weapon is because you get that for free at 2600 conquest earned?

[potent pivot]

If you have enough for wep+belt+cloak go ahead

But yes you get free weapons after earning 2500 conq

[last jasper]

Betterblizz can remove them

[long shore]

do you know under which setting sir?

[proud vortex]

Trickz

How are the changes in 0.5 affecting sub in pvp

I need ur wisdom

[potent pivot]

#pvp message

[proud vortex]

🫡🫡

[wintry dew]

i lol'd at that

[vague orbit]

Anyone got good pvp build for assa ?

[potent pivot]

check the pins

[potent pivot]

😉

[vague orbit]

Oh thank you mate 😄

[jolly sierra]

i can fortune tell u

for a coin

https://tenor.com/view/song-lute-skyrim-khajiit-cat-gif-23129489

[wintry dew]

i laughed at this too

xD

[jolly sierra]

XD

[dapper chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/bonne-nuit-bisous-gif-23798629

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/crystal-ball-fortune-teller-betty-white-kristallkugel-scry-gif-22610039

lemme see

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

https://tenor.com/view/ligma-fortune-cookie-you-have-ligma-gif-12486693508439557948

[dapper chasm]

Pray tell, kind stranger

Who is Steve Jobs?

[jolly sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mly-ptUD7M8

[lime oar]

Another day, another 3-3 SS

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-gif-27057996

[dapper chasm]

I was referencing the Watchmen meme, but at least now I know more about you as a man

[jolly sierra]

ligma balls

[dapper chasm]

Go back to your sonic oc

[jolly sierra]

k

[dapper chasm]

[candid tide]

dang went vs a demo and arcane last out of nowhere

put me out of my element there didnt know shit to do

[clear wigeon]

https://youtu.be/_Wl9HOXU9jE?si=seZVj-iwkbdMFFQS

[last jasper]

lmao, was chillin waiting for m+ q

[steep kiln]

[jolly sierra]

wtf does the socket drops from fornite chest?

[last jasper]

yea, saw it for the first time in the last 1.5month 😄

[jolly sierra]

that means is still worth to sell all the bloodstones lol

[last jasper]

lmao, I was about to get one for my mage like a few hours ago and sold all the bloodstones on ah at the end 😄

[jolly sierra]

u did well unless u dont have the precog bloodstone yet

[last jasper]

I do not 😂 until I looted that chest

as much as I love easy sockets, I love gold more.

[sturdy zealot]

Lore accurate rogue

[safe pelican]

Wtf you can get the setting from a war crate ?

Game is rigged

[jolly sierra]

who doesnt

[topaz bobcat]

so all 3 specs getting buffed next 2 patches?

[plucky escarp]

I took about two weeks off. Are sub/assa rogues still getting 4 set or are people just doing 2 set?

[lone anvil]

Wait WHAT

[candid tide]

still 2 atm

[candid tide]

the coming patch is a slight buff for sub only iirc

[vocal ginkgo]

Feels good 😭

[candid tide]

for the deathstalker hero talent

[vocal ginkgo]

Finally understanding how to play sub effectively

[hidden moth]

Spam vanish

Congrats ur playing sub

[candid tide]

remember to press all the resetted cds tho

[last jasper]

not from war crest. from unbound spoils. it can spawn and only first 5 get the socket

[hidden moth]

Sorry sorry

Cheap, cheap cheap, dance cheap cheap cheap kidney vanish cheap kidney vanish kidney dance cheap cheap

At least that’s how sub plays according to those forums this morning

[candid tide]

true

[vocal ginkgo]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[last jasper]

until 11.0.5

[hidden moth]

11.0.5 is assassin’s big day

When does that patch hit anyways

[worthy crag]

Is the reflex addon not on curseforge?

[hidden moth]

Guys shuffle MMR IS FIXED!!!!

#1 na is 2350 now!!!!! We are saved

#1 eu is 2358!!!!

[torpid swan]

Do sub rogues press vanish twice in between blades?

[vocal ginkgo]

I’m liking sub too much, hope it’s not too bad after the CDR removal

[lone anvil]

Why is this 👀

[hidden moth]

30%hp heal on vanish

I retract my statement on if ur not nelf ur trolling

If ur not nelf or kultirin ur trolling