pvp

[spring bough]

we already got nerfed GL lol

tbh whose really out dpsing DK tho

lol

[topaz bobcat]

boomy

[topaz bobcat]

do u use set?

[keen warren]

Is there a way to see what stats scaled gear will have without purchasing?

[vocal terrace]

update you didnt ask for - found a reddit post of someone saying the weekly conquest quest doesnt count towards it. need to push a little more for the achievement to register 👍

[spring bough]

3/4 set

[topaz bobcat]

wow

not even max power

[spring bough]

getting gloves in two weeks

[topaz bobcat]

do u get focused at high MMR?

[spring bough]

yeah every KS and crack feels like im CC

like literally every time i press KS it gets CC towards the end if im lucky at the start if im not

[topaz bobcat]

interesting they cc u instead of shadow

[spring bough]

should i troll and use my 616 hero gloves to use 4 set in pvp

[potent pivot]

Whaazz and Nahj

[potent pivot]

Yeh

Worth a shot if it’s just one item

[spring bough]

i got all the stats i need rn

and losing verse/mast on gloves for crit/haste is actually decent for me

only lose 1% verse and like 1.5% mastery

but gain crit and haste

um

1.3mil BTE on pvp training dummy

is this real life?

so 4 set kinda fks

yeah 616 over 636 gloves for two weeks i can deal with that

[surreal barn]

https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/aerox-9-wireless-world-of-warcraft-edition

How do they justify this ridiculous price

I’d sooner slap a W sticker on one and call it a day

[spring bough]

40% from coup on finisher and set gives 60% inc to BTE. just need like 12 coup stacks minimum

so a 600k reg crit going for 1.2mil with all the modifiers at the right time lol

[steep kiln]

cheaper than a naga

[potent pivot]

lol? stop the cap

[steep kiln]

the wireless one i swear. never seen it below 150

[potent pivot]

i got mine for 130

[potent pivot]

lets not even joke like this

[steep kiln]

guess you can get the battery one for 100. the Hyperspeed

[graceful ravine]

is it me or there isnt a pvp world quest for azj kahet?

[potent pivot]

there's 2

[steep kiln]

it's in the lil kobold village in a cave

shits popping off in there

[potent pivot]

idk i've got the naga trinity pro wireless

got it for 130

[graceful ravine]

am i blind

[potent pivot]

click the city at the bottom

[steep kiln]

trinity seems 100-130 ya. i should of bought one

[potent pivot]

you might have to be in the zone to see it

[steep kiln]

wanna say it's around there on the right. if not right above the spot i marked

[waxen meteor]

iPFFF

for real?

[dull bridge]

blizzard moment

[potent pivot]

You act like that’s some huge deal

[dull bridge]

yeah we're only paying 15 bucks a month for this game cmon guys

[graceful ravine]

ty ill give it a try

[steep kiln]

prob should of just gone to best buy but... they got me 😭

they actually have Naga X, Trinity, Hyperspeed, Pro and v2pro

didn't realize so many versions existed. all seem kind of recent

[spring bough]

almost 2 weeks of games

finally got a blitz with the new map

only took over a 100 ques lmao

[graceful ravine]

where do i get my free daggers

[lucid lark]

i'm gonna freak out if my stealth breaks for no reason ago bro

jfc

[graceful ravine]

i didnt get a reward tho

[odd yew]

After the achievement you get an item in the mail that has 2 tokens which you can buy any weapon

[graceful ravine]

oh

[spring bough]

Check ur mail

[waxen meteor]

why i can't find my mission anymore

[graceful ravine]

did servers crash or jsut me

[waxen meteor]

is it removed after you finished 2200?

i think just you

[edgy escarp]

Trying to figure out, is haste or crit better for assass?

[graceful ravine]

how is my server the only one that is offline

[steep kiln]

goblin experiments gone wrong

[graceful ravine]

happened on launch day to

area52 only server that is offline

[spring bough]

These green heraldry’s were like 8k gold for a couple of days

They are 1 silver now 😂

[surreal barn]

A whale prob was flipping

[waxen meteor]

crit

should i get head of chest hmm

from conquest

we tends to use 4 set or not now

[spring bough]

Gotta be honest if I see the new map I’m going fatebound for double grapple. Too easy as flag runner with it

Just got resilient runner for 3+ caps no deaths 😂

[severe hazel]

guys i noticed something - if you do a cheap shot opener there usually isnt a shadowstrike. so we dont get a mark up and the extra dmg etc. now im trying to figure when to even use an opener like that compared to strike kidney. only thing i dont like is that they get 1 global to react. how do you guys handle it?

[stoic spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518999796443512844/1288300314222395435/image-142.png?ex=66f4aeaa&is=66f35d2a&hm=bb9b40dc457a38bd77629c4c49287c5d510b23507a994177e51fc66a2ce539c5&

Friendly reminder of the hardest screenshot in wow history

[potent pivot]

usually i just do a piss opener with subterfuge

to mark a target and get the game started

then transition into CDs and stun locks

it's either that or a strike kidney opener

[severe hazel]

i see i am hitting the dummy a lot. also worth im mostly talking about 1v1s in rbgs incing a base for example. also someone suggested to just gauge from stealth which gives full cp into kidney

also feels kidna sweet

then we can just dance burst

[potent pivot]

Yeah gouge is also a good option

Especially if you don’t think you’ll need to use it as like an extra stop or something

[waxen meteor]

wait i am lost why do you need a gauge there

ss = full cp anyway isnt it？

[potent pivot]

So they can’t react

[waxen meteor]

oh you mean ss + gauge for a low risk kidney

[potent pivot]

If you try to strike->kidney, a lot of classes have things that will fuck you

[waxen meteor]

yeah like dh jump back etc.

i got u

[potent pivot]

You wouldn’t strike no

Just gouge from stealth -> kidney

That doesn’t get your Mark up, but it’s still a decent thing to do

[graceful ravine]

boom

[severe hazel]

if you do gouge kidney you dance strike after

thats what i would do

to get mark up

[warped gate]

So I can get 4P from my Great Vault, but as a PvP only character, it's gonna be absolutely useless for me, right?

[mellow egret]

yep

[warped gate]

Daaamn.

It's crazy how there's no way to upgrade item to another tier after fully upgrading it. If they want to gatekeep you getting gear from higher content, what's wrong with using the crests and stuff from higher content to upgrade the level of it?

[waxen meteor]

@potent pivot do we use 4p for sin/sub now?

[potent pivot]

ye

[waxen meteor]

even for sin?

[warped gate]

Okay sooo.. I can't even use the gem slot thing from the Great Vault on PvP gear?

There was zero warning about this.

[mellow egret]

nope

[potent pivot]

ye

[warped gate]

Maaan, fuck this game.

[waxen meteor]

pve pvp sort of completely seperated

i do like one thing that is we are not forced to do 5000 honor from rated each week

[mellow egret]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[warped gate]

On the one hand, I get it, but on the other, ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff~

[sweet swallow]

what's that addon with the big yelllow square that shows who ur team mates are targeting?

[potent pivot]

TopTarget i think

[dull bridge]

amen

[graceful ravine]

does evasion cap work vs hunter pets? if i blind hunter

[late nova]

I tried pvp and got my ass kicked lol. I was wondering what spell I should focus on first because I immediately went for garrote and rupture

[graceful ravine]

when they decide to team fight at the base im sitting at 😄

[somber plank]

Sudden Demise go brr?

[hybrid sapphire]

anyone happen to know where people go to fark sparks of war in azj-kahet? normally theres a big kill fest somewhere to help each other farm them easily

[fast canopy]

I just had a warrior auto cleanse every single application of garrote and rupture. Why?

Do they have something that makes them immune to dots?

[hybrid sapphire]

found it: grudge grotto above rak-ush

[potent pivot]

Were they dwarf or something

Dwarf/dark iron dwarf racials clear a lot of shit

[graceful ravine]

what does wws have that dodges?

not FOF

[fast canopy]

they were a warrior

[potent pivot]

Oh I guess they have bitter immunity as well

[fast canopy]

*arms. I don't know enough about their trees to know if that matters for their defensives and utilities

[fast canopy]

but this was continuous for over like... 10 seconds

bitter immunity is instant only, right?

[inland hawk]

Dance of the wind https://www.wowhead.com/spell=432181/dance-of-the-wind dumb stacking dodge tallent

[potent pivot]

The only things I can think of are bitter immunity, evoker’s cauterizing flame, and dwarf’s stoneform

[fast canopy]

Odd. maybe it was just servers or something, but it was bizarre

[potent pivot]

They’ve also got die by the sword

But that shouldn’t remove existing

They could’ve used bitter immunity and die by the sword

[fast canopy]

Potentially. The warr himself didn't know

[potent pivot]

[fast canopy]

Here's a thing though! Wound poison is 4% per stack in pvp right? The pvp dummy procs that but then shows 48% less healing on 5 stacks

[potent pivot]

Pvp dummies are weird sometimes

Certain pvp tuned things aren’t dummy flagged correctly

[waxen meteor]

dummies are dumb sometimes 🙂

[south iris]

Do we have a stealth bug right now? I keep getting flicked out of stealth and put in combat in BGs and I have no idea what the fuck is doing it

[fast canopy]

Yeah i've got that a couple times where i'll immediately be yanked out of vanish

[potent pivot]

Multiple bugs

[fast canopy]

just assumed i was bad and not noticing some dot or something

[south iris]

Yeah, keeps happening to me after respawning and I have dots ticking, it's infuriating as shit

[potent pivot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1f2zeaq/figured_out_why_stealth_is_breaking_nonstop/

[potent pivot]

that's probably just Singular Focus' bug

[south iris]

Yeah nice, good to see I wasn't just going nuts with it

[potent pivot]

a lot of the new hero talents among classes that interact with dots keep you stuck in combat

even DK dots and some others

but the Singular Focus bug also keeps others from capping bases in BGs

[wind cove]

anyone seen any test on the fist weapon for rogue? does it proc all of our stuff?

[potent pivot]

what

the pve fist weapon?

if so, sounds like a terrible idea

[wind cove]

the pvp

[potent pivot]

Ah, nah wouldn’t recommend it

[wind cove]

gotcha! thank you! could you tell me why, im new and curious!

[potent pivot]

Sin can’t mutilate without two daggers
Sub loses shadow tech procs

[wind cove]

ohh i c

ty!

[mellow egret]

OUTLAW FOR THE WIN LMAO^^^

whoops my bad for caps

[potent pivot]

I don’t think outlaw wants the mace either bud

[mellow egret]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[stoic spruce]

It got mast or somethin?

[lone anvil]

Authority of radiant power on both weapons?

[mellow egret]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1283780831147589713

@lone anvil ^^^^

[lone anvil]

Thank you, I know the gearing pin is there.

When I try and open that on my phone app it almost never works properly

[mellow egret]

No worries here you go

[inland thorn]

Does outlaw use tier

[noble stirrup]

Hey guys, should I wear a 616 pve piece for 4/4 set? I play assa and sub in bgbs

[mellow egret]

yes we do

[mellow egret]

i mean itd put u at a bigger disadvantage than what you would gain from having 4 set tbh in pvp at least

[inland thorn]

What pieces?

[mellow egret]

disadvantage my bad

[mellow egret]

im running chest and shoulders but some are running shoulders and then 1600 token legs, i went chest, shoulders and gonna use my 1600token for legs

head is good for outlaw but i crafted mine 😦

[noble stirrup]

You really think the bit of a stat loss is more than 16% dmg on finishers during burts?

I can see it not being for it for assa

worth*

[mellow egret]

everyone gears different so up to you at the end of the day, but 616 vs 639 gear piece is pretty high lol

thats just my 2 cents tho, do what u want broski, no harm trying it out

[noble stirrup]

Well I just checked and I will eventually be able to upgrade it to 629 so that seems a bit better

[indigo hill]

If you have it you can use it for now and once you've geared the other slots, you replace it with a pvp piece. That's my suggestion.

[last jasper]

It’s okay for sub. It just does less shadow proc.

[wind cove]

dope ty

[hybrid rapids]

where did the quest for pvp go?

[grim forum]

i have a question

is there ever a time where you can use Cheap shot but you choose to use kidney shot?

[onyx raven]

if your talking about the conq wep one, its now an achivement to get 2500 conq in the season @hybrid rapids

[kind quartz]

damn

finding more reason why wow devs are brainless

i can't use evasion and dodge aoe type physical attacks

fist of fury parry pvp talent is able to parry aoe physical attacks

[grim forum]

like do we need 2 seperate buttons for Kidney shot and Cheap shot or do we just use Cheapshot when in stealth and kidney when out of stealth?

[kind quartz]

kidney is a much better stun

[grim forum]

guess im asking is there ever a time where you press shadow dance and use kidney instead of cheap on purpose?

[kind quartz]

and it getting dr'd by cheap can hurt

[grim forum]

hmm

i see

[kind quartz]

depends on if you want big pressure stun or just trying to force something

[grim forum]

ok thats what i wanted to know

so we need 2 seperate buttons regardless that cheap shot is only a stealth move

[severe hazel]

guys when and why have enchants / gems etc started becoming so expensive?

[snow schooner]

yo are assas using 4 set?

[severe hazel]

also do we know if sockets from the great vault can be used on pvp gear?

[orchid plinth]

Honestly you should just have every button regardless of stealth - at least for me that makes everything easier. You can get away with backstab/shadowstrike but even that is a bit of a loss sometimes due to bar lag on dance.

[grim forum]

Got it. Yea i read that cheap shot and kidney shot affect different shit. Like you can use cheap shot thru certain defensives

Definitely want separate buttons.

[azure rapids]

can we get 4 set yet?

i have seen somebody get the 4th piece from dvelve as a PVE item 🙂

[candid tide]

is it not better to use the stance macro then

to avoid bar lag if that’s possible

[orchid plinth]

It's not

I know some, mostly PvErs add a Shsdowstrike to Shadowdance itself, for example.

[candid tide]

thought that wat is causing barlag

[orchid plinth]

Bar lag in my context refers to you casting Backstab instead of Shadowstrike as your first attack when Shadowdancing.

Hence having Shadowstrike bound out of stealth with prevent that.

[candid tide]

theres a stance macro to prevent that it seems

saw it in nahj and whaazz macro pack

[orchid plinth]

there is one: for Cata by Nahj. Not for retail. Not what I've seen at least but would love to be proven wrong!

[candid tide]

ah ye thats true now that uve mentioned it

[vague comet]

whad do you people bind your tar arena 1/2/3 to?

[orchid plinth]

Scroll up/down/click but I am still not 100% used to it

Shift modifier for focusing

[candid tide]

whaazz has it on his alt123

[vague comet]

guess i'll keep clicking for the rest of my life

[azure rapids]

use keybinds that are comfortable for you to use

everybody has diffrent hand shapes and keyboards/mouse

a nage mouse with 12 buttons on the side does help :)))

[outer sky]

Asked my priest why he didnt swap and I get this

Imagine my healer relying on my cheat

too bad too because we were about to win and I went 5-1

would have been a clean 6-0

[dark copper]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[last jasper]

Bugged
Relying on cheat. What a chad

[gusty hedge]

thats what im doing on 1 of my rogues. filling in pve set until next cata swap only 10ivl lower not too bad for the moment

[azure rapids]

what dvelves level does it have to be ?

[gusty hedge]

i got one from t8 616 ilvl. other rogue got one t3 598 ilvl or 589 .
the vault drops are random tho can even get tier from heroic vault(heroic/dungeon)

[formal crystal]

my quest about 2500 conquest in 1 season has dissapeared?

wtf

[orchid plinth]

It's an achievement

You

will get your weapons

[formal crystal]

alright

[severe hazel]

guys are u going r2 or r3 enchants? r3 so expensive 😦

[indigo hill]

You get tokens now instead of weapons so you get to pick the weapons you want.

[azure rapids]

R2 or even bronze,the diffrence in silver gold or bronze is not that huge

when they get cheaper il get gold :))

[severe hazel]

do they get cheaper tho? havent played for quite some time

[formal crystal]

nice

i just go r1

its not that hard to farm gold i found out lol

[severe hazel]

its not im herbing quite a bit inbetween qs

just a general thing

2x r2 enchants cost 50% of 1x r3 enchant (taling weapon)

[formal crystal]

yeah same i also do that

i got around 600k in a few days

and idk wtf im doing xd

[orchid plinth]

you earn 600k in a few days but don't wanna buy the best enchant for your weapons that you will use for a long time?

[formal crystal]

not me that said it

i go r1

[orchid plinth]

ah mb

[last jasper]

yo, if I had honor crafted can I recraft it into 639?

[formal crystal]

i got the achievment but no tokens?

xd its in the mail

we can use 1 dagger as outlaw right?

[outer sky]

yes in the off hand

[formal crystal]

tyty

[formal crystal]

xddd

im making legs and shoulders into set items shouldnt really matter what we make right?

[tawdry wraith]

with the other heraldry

different items

[severe hazel]

guys catalyst charges do stack right? no need to catalyst chest now? can just wait till 4piece in 2 week>? so i get to keep the better stats for 2 weeks?

[tender ember]

yes u can wait

[formal crystal]

i used cataclyst on shoulders didnt even change stats just gave me a bit more vers - had vers mast before

[severe hazel]

ye depends on the tier piece

conq chest ist ver / mast but tier is vers / crit

it always uses the stats from the pve item

[formal crystal]

ah oke oke

but in that case its better for us outlaw

since crit > mast

[severe hazel]

im sub 😄

[formal crystal]

heh

[formal crystal]

i dont get why the cursed enchants are better? like sure u get idk 90 more crit but u also lose 110 haste

you lose more than u gain on it

compared to a normal one?

[azure rapids]

i have some mastery on Outlaw 😛

not really sure about the actual correct stats, but i got like 14 crit ,mastery 24 vers 28 and haste around 18 or a bit higher when stuff procs

if you look at players they all have variations on Outlaw

this from a Blitz perspective

seems to work fine with what i have tbh

probably in a few weeks Conquest cap will be removed and than we can start to actually optimize,not a fan of all the crafting and stats stuff 😛

just want to fight :))

[outer sky]

dont run more than 15% haste as outlaw. 10% may be even better. After that stack crit

[gusty hedge]

honor crafted? like herealdry? from blue 626 to 639? yes its possible.

[gusty hedge]

i have 3 rogues 4th lvling. all diff stat builds. and they all slap. Inr is full mastery lowest haste as possible, one full crit. 0 haste, 3rd is balanced build. 4th will be full haste /verse

[outer sky]

theyre all outlaw?

[azure rapids]

seems that some mastery helps and most have lower haste, so i think im good on how o spread my stats,will also gem some crit

so far i am doing good in Blitz, depends on team composition

overall happy 😄

[outer sky]

10% haste may be the way

but def not more than 15

[gusty hedge]

yeah all outlaw

[azure rapids]

its fine im at crit 16,11 haste and 28 M and 28 Vers :)))

il stack some more crit with gems

need to buy those items with crystal and honor right to add sockets?

[last jasper]

The color depends on a heraldry you use.

[tawdry wraith]

hence why I said default

the default is green

no heraldry used

[last jasper]

you need green heraldry for green too

it seems you dont understand my question

[tawdry wraith]

I literally answered your question

and thats the default color

[last jasper]

by telling nonsense

[tawdry wraith]

I edited afterwards, I just didnt delete the other messages

if you crafted smth you can always recraft for diff ilvl or diff stats

[lunar granite]

the 2set will always 100% be better than having different stats and no 2set

[severe hazel]

@lunar granite ofc, but i have 2set already. chest is the 3d piece

[lunar granite]

ah, ok then

[formal crystal]

solo shuffle, 3 out of 4 wins

gets + 6

[safe pelican]

Lmaooooo this is why i hate pushing ss

[last jasper]

spark quest is a meme. 1 wq and u are capped. why even bother picking it 😄

[orchid plinth]

3 out of 4 what about the other 2!?

[formal crystal]

someone left

once again 2 out of 2 wins someones leaving

gets +7

like

if someone leaves i should get +100

they ragequit?

how

is that my bad

[orchid plinth]

easy now mr win trader

[formal crystal]

nah but its annoying yk

i just wanna get 1600 idk why but ye

im at 1584 and people keep leaving

so i only get +4-7

[orchid plinth]

[gusty hedge]

@azure rapids @outer sky what they currently look like (in pvp combat)

[azure rapids]

are those your Rogues?

[gusty hedge]

yea the one i got to max lvl

[azure rapids]

you leveled all those just to try diffrent stats? 😄

[gusty hedge]

yes and no 😛 i have multi rogues to swap when bored and since i cant play diff styles/ racials this helps
i also really only played rogue my whole wow life

[azure rapids]

ahh ok,that`s cool

I usually race change mine :))

but stuck on forsaken for a while now

[gusty hedge]

cono my OG rogue was undead upuntil about 2 weeks ago xD going to swap back soon maybe

[azure rapids]

Forsaken looks dope,

I can mog a mean zandalari aswell

[halcyon timber]

Proper

[azure rapids]

i might at some point try a diffrent race but i`m happy with how forsaken looks 😄

dont really bother with racials and stuff :))

[azure rapids]

if you like Wpvp,on Argent Dawn is better to be Horde as there is a 85% Alliance to 15% Horde ratio 😄

[gusty hedge]

undead female xD
some of the racials make soem fights between diff classes either easier/harder/fun. Kultiran fun in open world/ bgs fro mthe punch/stun lol

[azure rapids]

so as horde you have alot of victims to choose from 😄

[azure rapids]

i agree,NF vanish is savage,but if i dont like the look i wont play it 😛

[gusty hedge]

foreal!!, ngl i used to hate on Nelf until i figured how op the restealth was with meld for rogue, plus alot of the mogs i had went well with the nelf body😭
got over how big kultirans were and made one, they did not upset

[azure rapids]

Zandalari the upgraded version of NF 😛

easy to mog 😛

nah, everybody taste is their,i just always gravitated to the horde from the start

the moment i saw "World of Roguecraft" i knew i will be Rogue :))

and the 4 grapples sound really yummy 😄 in the next patch

[formal crystal]

NAH im done 3 times in a a row people are leaving so i get +18 in total

then people go and die in my team in half a milisec

so i lose 60 rating

im done

[gusty hedge]

yeah !! i was horde born from the start! got heavy into pvp from OG rogues on my server. (arouund when bc dropped) seen someone get dropped and rouge vanished, i was sold
4 grapples? ayo this news to me! i know outlaw losing shadowstep tho, would prefer if we got acro back jsut for outlaw 😛

[lone anvil]

Yo can I ask a really dumb question 🙏🏼

[gusty hedge]

i feel that! ss is a headache when tryingto progress and you get lobbies that like!

[lone anvil]

I'm trying to keybind my new 12 button mouse. And when I set 1-4 on the keyboard and then set 1-4 on the mouse, they override one another. How do I keybind both separately

[formal crystal]

YTUYPP

[gusty hedge]

your mouse should have its own software u can dowlnoad online or it mightve already came with it when installed to pc

[graceful ravine]

is it true mmr in shuffle is capped at 2.1k rn?

[azure rapids]

you have to select numpads

not the normal 1-4

in the configuration window of the mouse there should be a way to set them for numpad and then you still have your 1-2-3

[lone anvil]

Can you explain a little deeplier to a smooth brain por favor

[graceful ravine]

look to the lower right of your keyboard

use those numbers

[azure rapids]

if it`s naga like somebody said above

it should have a software of it`s own

[lone anvil]

My laptop doesn't have a numpad

Its a small laptop

[azure rapids]

there you should have in the config tab everyhting displayed

the mouse does not know that nor does it care for such shenanigans

[azure rapids]

Brother,use the Software for the Mouse 😄

[gusty hedge]

exp this is how mine looks, im able to bind every button on mouse and have a profile also

[lone anvil]

Okay

[azure rapids]

you set them there yourself

[lone anvil]

Thanks guys

I didn't know there was such software

[graceful ravine]

you can bind to symbols, like /*-+ [ ] \ /

etc

[lone anvil]

I found it and it's downloading right meow meow

[azure rapids]

noice 😄

[lone anvil]

Thanks boys 🙏🏼

When I break 500 rating in solo shuffle I'll remember who got me there (I'm 386 right now )

[spring bough]

Yall wild with these mouses lol

I’d lose track of so much with 12 buttons versus the two I have

[lone anvil]

My brother I don't want to be using alt and control and all these fancy maneuvers when the games complicated enough as it is

Watching these pros play with all these frames on their screens and addona and there's so much shit there's very little room left to actually see the battlefield and what's going on

Its like how the fuck did we get here

[azure rapids]

also for the mouse

you might have pressed numlock by mistake

once you press numlock the mouse will swtich from numpads to normal 1 2 3

[gusty hedge]

ive had the 2 button for the longest ! i got a cheap 12button one that im barely getting used to now xD i still only use 3 buttons out of all of em xD

[lone anvil]

Do you click the rest orrrrrr

[azure rapids]

depends on the hands man :))

[lone anvil]

If I'm using keybinds I want a mouse lol

[azure rapids]

i know people who can reach 9 with their fingers :))

[lone anvil]

If I'm clicking then it doesn't matter

[gusty hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-17349365856782341010

[spring bough]

I could maybe do like 4-6 but 12 would melt my brain id need like a month to get used to a whole new muscle memory lol

[azure rapids]

i`m 1 2 3 4 5 , then close ones e/q/f/v/ then the same with shift+ ,and then mouse ones 😛

[lone anvil]

Just practice on some training dummies or in dungeons that don't matter

[lone anvil]

This is what I'm going to do

[gusty hedge]

no cap! im trying to get that arena 123 with the rest, ive been used to focus macro/ manual insta swapping for too long. gotta up my arena game

[graceful ravine]

i use a 12 button mouse, but i really only use 6 of the buttons

the other 6 is binded to random things like hearthstone

or random toys

[spring bough]

Now mount binds for 6-12 would be peak 😂

[lone anvil]

I don't understand that but I'm glad y'all do

I use one mount, the swift zhevra mount from refer a friend and I don't use any others lol

[graceful ravine]

i have a mouseover focus keybind on my mouse, its so useful for blitz bgs

[lone anvil]

ZEBRA IS CUTE

[gusty hedge]

gotta have that mog mount/ special mount/ random favorite binded 😛

[lone anvil]

Bro if I had reigns of the ravenlord I'd flex that on everyone

But alas I don't

[gusty hedge]

is that the one that drops from sethek halls ?

[lone anvil]

Best mount on the game. Prove me wrong

[lone anvil]

Yes

[gusty hedge]

that mount ook me years to get xD

[lone anvil]

I farmed it back in the day and never got a drop. Can it still be obtained

[azure rapids]

Mog and mount combo if done well are +5skill rated pvp

[gusty hedge]

if u have more than one char, daily heroics on all of em

[spring bough]

I use the pirate ship 95% of the time but I do switch it up. Infinite time reaver is great too

[gusty hedge]

main one i used since BFA, until i faction swapped.

[celest burrow]

Hard to choose the PVP talents I want to practice using smoke bomb, but control is king is so nice and so is veil haha. Does veil remove all bleeds and such ?

[azure rapids]

i used it for a while to

now i mostly use the two headed wyvern from maldraxxus

it glides alot and sway`s from left to right

[gusty hedge]

yes ! def would use smb/veil for most games smb/disarm

[gusty hedge]

i have a good amount of mounts but none of the cool ones 😭 none of the glad mounts forsure

[spring bough]

What and where is that mount

[azure rapids]

it was with bfa event

[celest burrow]

@gusty hedge I mianly do bgs and blitz and world stuff. So it's a crapshoot on if a disarmable type feller decides to take this shot 🙂

[gusty hedge]

it was like event/quest when bfa dropped, when sylvannas was destroying undercity with plague and the allaince were coming to attack

[spring bough]

Remind me again why she fire bombed her home lol

[gusty hedge]

bloodelf>nightelf

dnt really remember the reason 😛 she was on some arthas type shii

[gusty hedge]

i mainly use sm/disarm viel/ brawler,(im outlaw tho) i play mainly wpvp /bgs /solo lbitz

[graceful ravine]

blizz likes to destroy important lore cities, then forget about them

we recently destroyed dalaran!

[spring bough]

Wait dalaran got destroyed?

But I can still hearth there lol

[gusty hedge]

u also get smoldering reigns of hippogrph of teldrassil (alliance)

[runic trench]

how do i avoid being 'the target' in solo shuffle

im just getting zerged game after game

i cant even play lmao

[lyric onyx]

You saved Dalaran!

[spring bough]

Wow lore is confusion

Wasn’t WOD a different timeline too? Lmao

[azure rapids]

Sometimes i miss the Banshee Queen

[graceful ravine]

its the first thing that happens in TWW lol

[azure rapids]

Dont agree with what she did in bfa

[spring bough]

Skipped every single cut scene 😂

[azure rapids]

Tbh burning of teldrassil was horde folk following her orders

So the fault is the horde for following her

Maybe will get a UC 2.0 as alot forsaken are out and about in the courtyards

And silverpine will be a quest hub between gilneas:p

[spring bough]

Another WFH day and countless emails and calls lol

[gusty hedge]

i was riding for her even after all that tbh i was hoping for the 3rd faction/ factionless. sad she was left in the shadowrealm. Best Warchief ever 👍🏾

[indigo hill]

Yeah it was and back in time as well.

[craggy silo]

is it just me or is like 90% of crafted gear just better? everything is front loaded with either vers or the wrong stat.

[last jasper]

That was always the point

[potent pivot]

The only crafted gear we’re running for sure:
Rings, boots, bracers, and once we’re fully geared we’ll craft weapons and prolly belt

[dapper chasm]

I forgot how much gear rocks

Realised I've been kicking ass in full greens for too long

Sub scales pretty hard

[graceful ravine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1fomzbr/imo_the_pacing_is_the_best_its_ever_been/

i agree with this take

havent seen anything outrageously OP yet

maybe evos and MW as FC

i did notice that its near impossible to kill a healer 1v1 in bgs

best you can do is keep them snared and waste their time

[dapper chasm]

Just feels like DF imo

This is the first xpac I've had that seemed like it had no big changes (as a rogue)

[graceful ravine]

DF S1 was more dmg heavy than where we are now, nearly every class had huge sustain dmg

healers are godmode atm

[dapper chasm]

Sustain is the devil's damage

Burst just feels better to do and deal with

[azure rapids]

due to the lack of the Healers available,they will keep being Gods :)))

[simple gale]

so on flag maps what am i supposed to do go for enemy fc or stick to healers and annoy them?

[azure rapids]

Depends on the Map

[runic trench]

not running crafted helm?

[azure rapids]

you look at your Team compositions and their

you send a strong bursters to perma EFC every time it`s called

while peeling to help if you can or call for somebody else to peel to efc

as Outlaw not that much though

as Outlaw you can run tactics ,it`s very helpfull

[graceful ravine]

its kinda crazy the best FC are healers atm cos they never die

[dapper chasm]

At what point are PvP'ers gonna look around and really ask "Do we really need Healers in PvP to have fun?"

[potent pivot]

Not sure yet. Maybe tier set helm

[azure rapids]

you can also FC for a while as Outlaw, but usually you send a healer to fc and one for team fight

[runic trench]

yes unless you want to die to aff locks forever

[dapper chasm]

Or, I can just kill the fool

[fast canopy]

Healers make fights last & balance out classes that otherwise would have baked in sustain vs. shit like Rogue which has relatively low amounts in comparison

[candid tide]

fighting locks on that one map is so hell

[dapper chasm]

I just wish they balanced around no healers much, much earlier - now we have 100 reasons why it's a bad idea

[fast canopy]

That said: I do not like heals in 2s. I want a bracket that specifically removes healers from 2s

[candid tide]

the one where he can portal bak in starting zone

[azure rapids]

fought against double perservation teams with flag :))

crazy hard to down them both

[dapper chasm]

I can't see how removing healers (as a requirement) could be bad - feels like the skill cap would soar up

[candid tide]

double pres is just trolls for rogues

[azure rapids]

it would be horrendous

Rogues dont heal almost at all

[dapper chasm]

Your face is horrendous

[azure rapids]

compared to Warriors or other classes

[dapper chasm]

Yeah, but we don't need to

[candid tide]

rogue has heal in dance and vanish

[azure rapids]

it`s very small

and dance is only for sub

warriors can go from 1hp to 100 in seconds

[fast canopy]

Right, because dance and vanish heal is comparable to something like word of glory

[candid tide]

dont forget vial resets with vanish too

[fast canopy]

or warr second wind

[formal crystal]

win 4 lose 2 = +10 ish

[azure rapids]

In Blitz healers are needed

[formal crystal]

win 2 lose 3 = -30

ok ok

im getting C

[azure rapids]

can t imagine blitz working without heals

[fast canopy]

bgs in general need healers

[azure rapids]

very happy overall with the addition of Blitz 😄

[fast canopy]

Haven't touched it this season. Are people communicating like regular bgs, or are they actually upping their game overall?

[azure rapids]

at higher mmr kinda:D

some teams do some not so much

usually i try to politely take the reigns at the start

[fast canopy]

Ahh so pretty regular

[azure rapids]

and run tactics

alot of people seem to want somebody running stuff at start

and calling all out through the game

works well for me

[dapper chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/quick-maths-mans-not-hot-gif-11163522

[fast canopy]

same in shuffles i've learned

confidence comes from cohesion

[azure rapids]

yep agreed

overall the higher i got the more enjoyable and better balanced they are

and it`s nice to be in same games with .Pshero and Shadenox 😛

[sleek belfry]

blitz until like 2700mmr (and even then in some games) is mostly a question: of who has the most 1700xp players? is one of the duo qs good? which team has zero rogues on node maps or no mw/dragons/rogues/dks on fc maps

but with that said, blitz is really addicting and fun to spam q since it's so ez to

[azure rapids]

and fast que to 😄

4 mins top

[sleek belfry]

yee they're not bad

[dapper chasm]

I got the Ironman ach before it was cool

WoW is cool now, right, guys?

You guys?

[graceful ravine]

Each match only last 10-15 mins which is nice

no more 30 min+ turtles

[azure rapids]

a bit much to work as Outlaw :))

but if you enjoy the spec it`s enjoyable

[graceful ravine]

I know sub is the superior spec for blitz but i enjoy assa so much more

[azure rapids]

i think both specs are better :))

[graceful ravine]

Fun > everything

[azure rapids]

but i still go Outlaw 😄

for exactly what you said above,i enjoy it more so i stick with what brings me most enjoyment

hope to push illusions tonight 😄

or whatever the rewards at 1950 are called

[surreal barn]

For the 20th anni I want them to remove the dr on sap

So I can sap someone for 30 mins straight like the good ol days

[simple gale]

thx guys, and yeah outlaw for life 😄 next patch with 4 grappling hooks gonna be fun

[graceful ravine]

i think we get 2, not 4

[simple gale]

with the fatebound restet its 4

[graceful ravine]

oo

[azure rapids]

yep 😄

[graceful ravine]

imagine outlaw fc

[sleek belfry]

that will be pretty nuts

[graceful ravine]

lmao

[azure rapids]

il jump in warsong from one tunnel to another on 4 hooks :))

[sleek belfry]

idk if better then silhouette shadowstep but yeah that range will be crazy

[graceful ravine]

shadowstep takes more coordination

works great for rogue/healer duos in blitz qs

esp if its a dragon too

[sleek belfry]

yeah

i only play sub/assass, but can you grapple the edge of 3rd from fr on wsg for example? don't believe so, right?

[graceful ravine]

can you step from the floor to the roof?

[sleek belfry]

yep

[graceful ravine]

sheesh

[wooden rock]

I was wondering if more people are missing the quest "Forged Weapons of Conquest" for the conquest weapons out of their logs? Because mine vanquished after reset.

[fast canopy]

It became an achievement. Progress on it saved

It is called Forged Weapons of Conquest, if you wish to find it

[wooden rock]

Ah, didnt see it in the notes. Thanks

[craggy silo]

You can craft head with full mastery, you can craft neck with 50/50 stats, there is no conquest belt with mastery.

[potent pivot]

Tier helm
Conq neck is fine
Atm we’re using wpvp belt

[simple gale]

is there a macro or someting to sap and then immidiatly start capping?

[candid tide]

isnt it better to send lesser amount of honor to alts since we losing 20%

[craggy silo]

Tier gloves made more sense too me, head is big stat item and hands actually have front loaded stat we can use.

[candid tide]

sending 15k will lose 3k

[spring bough]

How’s the PvP today haven’t been able to get on yet lol

[simple gale]

so what weapons should i pick up vres/mastery and crit/vers dagger and fist or dagger and axe hmmm

[potent pivot]

Idk if you go crafted neck and engi helm you’re dropping a shitload of vers as well
Tier gloves are crit haste

[lean cargo]

does gladius still not work

[potent pivot]

There’s multiple versions that work, you just have to install different version

[lean cargo]

ah

[potent pivot]

For outlaw axe/dagg

[lime oar]

Doesn’t matter how little you send it’ll still end up being 3k

In the end

[candid tide]

dang..

ah ye 20% is still 20%

[tame isle]

We running Depths or Stonbound on sub daggers?

[potent pivot]

Radiant power

[tame isle]

Well okay.. not sure why that's nt in PvE as well..interesting

Thanks

[potent pivot]

most things are different in pvp

[tame isle]

Of course but now that I know, off to the SIMs I go.

[potent pivot]

we don't sim for pvp

[tame isle]

sigh... Do i really have to say it's for PvE application?

[potent pivot]

you'd be surprised how many people i've seen bring up simming for pvp, sorry

[tame isle]

I just want to see if the stat attribute out performs the shadow damage enchant. ANd No, I don't use the same weps in both pvp and pve.

[potent pivot]

i gotcha

[candid tide]

shadow blades duration should be 30 sec

[odd yew]

For sub are we using the fist weapon OH from conquest since it's vers/mast?

[candid tide]

daggs

crafted

[potent pivot]

just use the crit/vers and craft vers/mast later

[tame isle]

Interesting, which embellishment?

[odd yew]

I don't quite understand what the reason for crafting is I (vaguely) know what embellishments are but I don't see the top rogues using embellished weapons

[potent pivot]

duskthread lining x2

[topaz bobcat]

this works on helm?

[potent pivot]

we craft for better stats etc

[potent pivot]

it only works on leather pieces iirc

no weps/jewelry

[topaz bobcat]

only two embellishments overall right? nerubian or arathi whatever doesn't matter

[topaz bobcat]

includes engineering?

[potent pivot]

idk

[topaz bobcat]

I got engineering alt crafter hunter and paladin

I found out they only learn from vendor to make for t heir own armor type

dafuq

maybe drops or invention needed

[odd yew]

So back to my original question, why wouldn't I buy this with one of my free conquest weapons and put it in the OH so I can still use dagger abilities as sub?

[topaz bobcat]

no

cuz daggers for sub and assa

[waxen meteor]

Craft dagger just better than Conquest

[potent pivot]

because 2x daggers is better

[waxen meteor]

the only adv of conquest weapon is you save conquest

from week3 to like week6 ish i guess

you have higher item level with less prefered secondary stat

[potent pivot]

none of that matters rn

he's got weapon tokens

but 2x daggers is just better on sub than using a slow OH

because of shadow tech

[waxen meteor]

offhand you can even use honor craft dagger

pbly better than this

[potent pivot]

no

[waxen meteor]

not certain

but difference won't be big anyway

[potent pivot]

it's not

you'd lose agi doing that

[odd yew]

Ok shadow techniques is the explination for 2x dagger over correctly stated slow OH?

[waxen meteor]

yes

overall if every other condition equals, faster weapon is better for shadow techniques

[odd yew]

Ok perfect, sorry for being so ignorant. I have to pretty much relearn 70% of rogue having my only experience be TBC/wotlk/Cata classic

[rotund pumice]

Wondering if someone has help with macro's - I have Arena123 for all my CC but in BGB I just want to use Focus for those - Is there a way to not have to have a new bind for just Focus blind and somehow use one of the 123 binds?

[potent pivot]

I wouldn’t recommend using a1/2/3 for every cc

[waxen moon]

turns out Embellishments can only have 2........two questions:

1. which 2 Embellishments u guys prefer? 1 duskthread lining with ascendance on dagger, or just 2 duskthread?
2. who here can help recraft the leatherworking with no Embellishment? personal order

[potent pivot]

2x dusk and we can’t use the server as trade chat

[rotund pumice]

Which CC would you recommend 123 - Like blind/step-kick?

[potent pivot]

Just blind maybe sap

I use /target a1/2/3 and focus on all my cc

[orchid plinth]

I mean if you can manage all the bindings with no problem why not? I would just create another spec with another actionbar or something for BGs

(Most people can't manage tho)

[potent pivot]

Because that’s just weird

Why would you want two different set ups

There’s no real reason to have a1/2/3 on every cc

[orchid plinth]

Because arena123 is not relevant in bgs?

Unless you use it to target FCs, that's doable?

[potent pivot]

Idk anyone that uses a1/2/3 on every cc ability

Just target a1/2/3 and blind/sap 1/2/3

Everything else is focus

[orchid plinth]

For example you can use "better" bindings in 2s: 1 button to target a1 and focus a2 and another to do the opposite.

[potent pivot]

Using different bind set ups in different brackets just sounds troll to me when you can have 1 for everything

[orchid plinth]

I agree that having EVERY CC bound to a123 and nobody probably does that and that fundamentals is more important. But the person in this discussion already stated that they had all of them to a123 so... they seem to manage? Or just lie

I use blind sap and step-CS for a123

[potent pivot]

Ye and they were asking for help, and I’m giving them advice as to what pretty much everyone does

[spring bough]

Love getting all my work done for tomorrow and Friday as of right now lol. Coasting to the weekend. Time for Warcraft 😂

[waxen moon]

thx! do u know which discord server I should ask? Also, also if we recraft item, is the enchantment gonna stay/keep?

[rotund pumice]

I should probably prune some of those 123's as I tend to not fully utilize them, Cheers 🙂

[tame isle]

Yarg, radiant Power 3 star 38k a pop on my server..

[orchid plinth]

That's usually the case. If you don't use the binding often it usually ends up being slower than the one you owe more often (ie focus etc)

[potent pivot]

I just use trade chat, and yes they stay

[odd yew]

What is the general consensus for tier? I can confidently guess shoulders but outside of that I have no clue

[orchid plinth]

Shiv arena3 bound to Ctrl-Shift-8

[potent pivot]

The only pieces that are debatable are gloves/helm

[odd yew]

So people are running 3 set tier? or do you mean it's a toss up as to which of those are used to complete 4 set?

[potent pivot]

Toss up

[orchid plinth]

There's AWC this weekend so we'll see what some of the pros are running with full gear, no?

[potent pivot]

Yeah

I think some of their certain choices will still seem troll though

[orchid plinth]

[lyric onyx]

anyone know where i can find a list of offensive/defensive CDs of all classes?

[potent pivot]

if you search on google you can prolly find a list on reddit or somethin

[inner ivy]

post the link here if you find it please!

[lyric onyx]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/zr7wri/important_pvp_cooldown_list_to_know/ semi outdated

from DF

setting up nameplate auras of BetterBlizzPlates... its a chore

unless anyone has an import for me 👉 👈

[potent pivot]

It has 2 preloaded imports lol

[lyric onyx]

are you joking

[dull bridge]

omnicd has it ingame dude

[nova dragon]

fastest way to farm 10k honor? and/or get a pcp jewlers setting

[lyric onyx]

smart

[lyric onyx]

for the idiot that i am where do i find this

[potent pivot]

open the main settings and look at the bottom

[potent pivot]

winning any rated pvp

other than that there's just BGs

but you just farm it passively from queuing rated

[lyric onyx]

the nahj profile? didnt do any auras for me 😒

[potent pivot]

or magnusz

[lyric onyx]

ill play around with it and see if i can get it to work

[sleek belfry]

make sure you use the vicious honor flask before you accept q pops for pvp too

[lyric onyx]

i imported the auras from magnusz's one into nahjs one

[sleek belfry]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=212292/vicious-flask-of-honor

[graceful ravine]

curious to see what the meta is nowadays

hilarious if its rmp again since frost mages and rogues are strong

[wintry dew]

I just saw something hilarious on that BG in "pandaria" rated

8 guys each team

6 were camping the same base.

... they were my team.

i lost.

[potent pivot]

i had to make a few tweaks to em as well

[lyric onyx]

yeah ill make em to my taste

i only want defensives and my ruptures etc

[mild viper]

Which weapon do I buy as sub rogue? the daggers?

[wintry dew]

yes

If someone leaves the rated BG

are the ones staying losing points?

im alliance

LOL

[sleek belfry]

YES

caps, but the afk/leaver gets -200 rating

[rocky vale]

any tips for full range lobbies as assa rogue? I'M having trouble succeeding

feel like I cant apply pressure cos I cant multidot and I get kited to oblivion

[potent pivot]

the way things are going with certain ranged classes you're kinda forced to play the pillar a bit more

especially if you're not playing coordinated 2s/3s, in shuffle you can't always depend on your team so you just gotta LoS a bit at times

[rocky vale]

it's not me dying really

I just cant kill anything before they do

[potent pivot]

well you're not only lining because of dmg

you're trying to force their position

but if they're not really going you, then you just gotta peel and keep up pressure where you can

[wintry dew]

finally

oops

[restive anvil]

I cant find my Conquest Weapons quest in my quest log any more....

anyones else have this issue?

[jolly sierra]

gratz

[jolly sierra]

lit the achiv above u

[restive anvil]

did they change it to an achieve this reset?

[rocky vale]

yeah but like I cant force my team to line

they wont

they'll zug

xd

[restive anvil]

ok they must have changed it from a quest to an achieve

which is actually better

[warped gate]

Bruh, I bought the wrong fucking weapons.

[rocky vale]

btw is authority the best wep enchant?

[warped gate]

I have no idea how I had such a brain fart but man, shit broke my heart.

It is for Outlaw at least, I dunno what the command is to check.

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[warped gate]

!gear

!enchants

[restive anvil]

make a ticket

[warped gate]

Oh, you gotta check the pins manually like a plebeian.

[potent pivot]

radiant power

depths seems good for outlaw

[graceful ravine]

dw boys, based on this chart rogues are getting a dps buff soon!

[warped gate]

Goddamn.

I thought Outlaw was slapping?

[rocky vale]

ah ok thought so, but the top shuffle rogue was running depths

(assa that is)

[wintry dew]

what a beautiful number

(im capped)

[graceful ravine]

i thought so too, got slapped wit the nerf bat too hard i guess

[potent pivot]

don't think blizzard looks at those lists the same way most people do

rogue is doing really well in the raid

[warped gate]

Never stopped them before.

[potent pivot]

people worry too much about "what the top rogue in X bracket" does

[wintry dew]

@potent pivot question

is it worth going for OH dagger since i already have the bloody tokens one? or could i usethe second token for tmog

[potent pivot]

that's up to you man

if you aren't going to push much past 1.8 i don't think it'll matter much

[wintry dew]

Isnt the OH the last thing we upgrade?

[potent pivot]

3 ilvl difference isn't huge for OH

[stoic spruce]

Is that better discord?

[wintry dew]

yeah thats what i thought

[wintry dew]

but you're right, rather do this properly and get both

i should check the guide for weapons enchants

[potent pivot]

just depends on how much pvping you wanna do

[stoic spruce]

Just go to acherus and put fallen crusader on it

OHHHHH THATS RIGHT

[potent pivot]

conq is somewhat easily farmed over the season for mogs etc

[warped gate]

Nah, that's just a screencap from the default mobile app.

[stoic spruce]

I'm choosing not to believe you

Simply because mine is not that pretty

[wintry dew]

i am actually "enjoying" rated bgs

when my team has a brain

[stoic spruce]

Royal hates me

He's locked in and is ignoring me

[wintry dew]

oh you were talking to me? fuck sorry popo

[rocky vale]

there's only one dagger I can buy?

right?

[wintry dew]

yes

[potent pivot]

with tokens?

[rocky vale]

ye

[potent pivot]

yeah just crit dagger x2

[wintry dew]

PvP should have a separate catalyst charge

change my mind

[steep kiln]

was gonna catalyst the conquest chest but then i'd just have 3 piece with worse stats on chest -_-

[jolly sierra]

i did a shave and cut my face over the lip

now im feeling the blood drying there

[potent pivot]

ye you just wait til 4th charge

[polar saffron]

undead girl is the best race for rogue, change my mind

[jolly sierra]

read my desc

[stoic spruce]

It's okay bbg

<3

[polar saffron]

at least we can hate elves together

[jolly sierra]

agree homie

[dapper chasm]

oh crap, you get free tier at 1600? I didn't bother doing arena till i had the tier pieces already

[surreal barn]

Yep

[dapper chasm]

this is total bullshit, propagated by my enemies

[surreal barn]

One sneeze and a rapid fire later and I had my tier

[dapper chasm]

I guess I'll get the chest to replace the green

Do we have a BiS list yet?

[potent pivot]

not quite

only thing up for debate is crafted helm+tier gloves or tier helm+crafted gloves

[dapper chasm]

Why on earth would you want tier gloves?

[potent pivot]

because we're going to run 4p

[dapper chasm]

Fucking eww

But clearly you would want crafted helm and tier gloves if that's the case

Especially as engi

[lime venture]

To my sub rouges,
Are you going for 4 set? or just stacking as much mastery with 2 set?

[rocky vale]

hmm

TIL you can draw in shuffle

[dapper chasm]

Did they add bandage to arena now?

[potent pivot]

4p yeah

[surreal barn]

Yes

It’s expensive

Me them yourself

[dapper chasm]

I got a few hundo stacks, no biggie

[surreal barn]

Make*

[dapper chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/peasant-joke-rich-understand-funny-horrible-histories-gif-15537482

[rocky vale]

does assa want 4 set? cant see in the pins

[candid tide]

oh i think they just fixed combat bugg for rog aint it

[potent pivot]

most people are going for it yeah

[jolly sierra]

according to trickz, y

personally i wont

[candid tide]

YEp the fixed combat bug!!

[jolly sierra]

because the mastery and vers from 2set can fulfill the bonus set damage

from 4set

[lime venture]

Thats what Im thinkingg

[jolly sierra]

did some calculations and just find is a waste of versa for the same damage

[candid tide]

can meld into stealth normally now again

sweet

[potent pivot]

the singular focus bug?

[potent pivot]

you still gain damage from crit/haste

[candid tide]

the one that rupture keeps u out of stealth

[potent pivot]

assa isn't like sub

[candid tide]

and in combat

[potent pivot]

even the awc rogues have been setting up with 4 set so far

[rocky vale]

yeah that's basically my mindset too

[candid tide]

wait wasnt awc today?

oh noes

did i miss it?

[potent pivot]

no

the first couple weeks are just qualifier type matches

[jolly sierra]

at ur choice, personally as perma assa rog wont roll it

[potent pivot]

awc lasts for weeks

[candid tide]

but the games are today no?

streamed

[potent pivot]

they are every weekend

but i think some qualifiers started this week ya

[candid tide]

aye les watch some

[potent pivot]

even when you see all the awc assa's using it?

[candid tide]

need to see how kalvish gonna perform vs whaazz

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

that's weeks away

[jolly sierra]

im checking stuff periodically

ye, i wont

[lime venture]

I agree its a useful pve stat, but im trying to one shot in the dance window

[jolly sierra]

i wont trade it for such little stat

[potent pivot]

You’re talking about sub. Sub definitely runs 4p

[jolly sierra]

sub 100%

[lime venture]

Cool. Thanks.

[jolly sierra]

is not nerfed yet with set bonuses

my bad, here the stat gaining

[lime venture]

I have not pushed yet? how sweaty is 2s right now?

[potent pivot]

Engi goggles or any other crafted gear taken into account?

[jolly sierra]

is just the set bonus

there are the stats from haste and crit

[potent pivot]

Yeh

[jolly sierra]

in % gain

[potent pivot]

Haste and crit aren’t useless stats for sin

[jolly sierra]

in small amounts those are

xd

anything else u could run to get more haste and crit?

[potent pivot]

When you’re talking about losing a small amount of vers/mast

…

[jolly sierra]

its a 5% combined

or so

vs 1,5% more crit and like 2% more haste

5% in consistent dmg vs the haste, crit and proc from the bonus

[potent pivot]

• the dmg from the set itself

[jolly sierra]

as a proc

xd

[potent pivot]

We’ll just wait and see

[jolly sierra]

also is just poison dmg, not bleeds

so

OOF

im throwing the shit out this time trickz u cant convince me

oh sorry

my bad

that is 2set

[potent pivot]

Not worried about convincing you

[jolly sierra]

still wont

eksdee

[potent pivot]

I’m just informing people on what others are doing

That’s all

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-gif-15190379

[potent pivot]

[jolly sierra]

i think we should wait

assa was expected to be the worst across all specs this season and is having very good results

xd

[lime venture]

So I creeped the armory of Pika, Kalvish, Nahj, and Palumor ... and they are all built a lil different.

[jolly sierra]

ye, but in ur case 4set is sub

cuz is not nerfed

[lime venture]

So I feel like it doesnt really matter currently

[dapper chasm]

Are we still ignoring the vers->mast when it comes to engi items?

[potent pivot]

The end result will be the same

No one is fully geared yet

[lime venture]

Im in agreeance with you

[jolly sierra]

do we have eng bracers this xp too?

[potent pivot]

Ye

[jolly sierra]

interesting

[dapper chasm]

are the kids going vers or mastery on thsoe?

[potent pivot]

Mastery for sub

[jolly sierra]

maybe im crafting some of them later for 2k1

with pve crests from arenas

[potent pivot]

Have seen people even craft vers goggles for sin

[dapper chasm]

Why do we spit on the stat prio so flagrantly?

[jolly sierra]

cuz it scales dirty

and is a very high amount

[dapper chasm]

If I get the helm now, I'll hit 0 conq

So next week I wont have 4 set by affording gloves

[jolly sierra]

can u get a pve tier?

with decent ilvl?

[potent pivot]

Next catalyst charges is in 2w