pvp

[jolly sierra]

i think can try fatebound

lol

[spring bough]

Blitz chat makes me laugh

They are flaming this blood dk in twin peaks about how slow he is 😂

[wet crown]

Is there anything in this world that's going to be more annoying to 1v1 than a frostfire dracthyr

Besides maybe a ret paladin lol

[sweet swallow]

so to craft a piece do i need to buy the recipe or just all the ingredients and the base algari piece of gear?

[stoic spruce]

Well

RiP popo

[halcyon timber]

At least the racial knockbacks are on evoker only

[sick wasp]

a frostfire that knows to RoF his feet

[topaz delta]

is rupture breaking you guys out of stealth randomly?

[sick wasp]

wdym like shit friend

sin is weaker now coz there is no dance if thats what u mean

[halcyon timber]

And gained other tools instead

[topaz bobcat]

just kill it then

[sick wasp]

still think sub will most likely shine over most of the specs

season just started but idk,i dont wanna play vs any good sub rogue

the dance x3 cheap into gauge into duel is just too strong

and there is also bomb

its a horror movie coming true

[surreal barn]

Add disarm to that good sir

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/s/HlwcsptlJd

For your studies young ones

Know your roots

Farming fadeleaf sucked

[sick wasp]

btw ER-Darkest Night interaction has been fixed since yday

sub is going unreal

[surreal barn]

ER on deathstalker is still insane

[gritty peak]

wait what, you can proc DN off of anima charged cps now?

[sick wasp]

YES

[gritty peak]

incredible, just checked sin pins

we are so back

[graceful ravine]

i dont have to buy the max quality enchant right?

will scale up in pvp?

[outer sky]

enchant yes you need max qual

embellishments you dont

[queen grail]

this guy said "this rogue is really terrible" in my solo shuffle

i ammmm

omfg

i need to watch a pvp video

[sick wasp]

good there are none

[halcyon timber]

Not a comparison. we all have different things we emphasize on. Even Realz said several times now Assassination has the greatest potential for burst. It just takes a different path for you guys and that's not a big deal. Just glad to see all 3 rogues can do well and that is all that we should hope to strive for continuously. Rogues stand up for other rogues no matter what.

[sick wasp]

well shadenox got one yday

[waxen meteor]

i think this is basically our best gear this week

i don't think i can improve gear anymore this week

[surreal barn]

We got the same stuff

I’m a maniac and put my dps trinket over my cc one

[outer sky]

Those dont look like the engi bracers

[waxen meteor]

can you use it if you are not engin?

[outer sky]

yeah its the goggles that require you to be an engineer. But they only require you to be level 1 to use them so all you have to do is learn it from the profession trainer. you dont have to level it

[outer sky]

Did he say how?

Anyone can say anything if they dont ever have to justify it

[halcyon timber]

no sir, was a while ago. I assume given how things pan out as things are stacked up and x y z is in place - Asssassination can appropriately do as they need.

Respectively

[outer sky]

assass can do the highest DPS for sure

but the most damage to 1 target in a kidney?

I have a hard time believing that

[halcyon timber]

That's comparing a sprinter to a long distance runner

[outer sky]

thats typically what we mean when we say "burst"

[halcyon timber]

or Acceleration vs Velocity I would think

[outer sky]

5 minutes of sustained high dps isnt burst

[waxen meteor]

wait what?

[steep kiln]

I thought sin already had a lot of talent builds. see how it effects pvp i guess

[outer sky]

If I could get every team I play against to stack I'd almost never lose a game

[waxen meteor]

i am stilling running kb

[halcyon timber]

Yes however one would wonder if in a vaccuum - All things are added together favorable for assassins and then in a kidney shot etc

[waxen meteor]

i will prbly try bone strike tmr

[outer sky]

i dont see how it could be

[halcyon timber]

like I wonder if all things added up and yadda yadda

I dunno /shrug

acceleration vs velocity are 2 different ways to look at it

not really a way for assass to accelerate currently yeah?

[steep kiln]

there was some discussion earlier about dropping tea but needing some haste but i didn't keep up with the convo

[halcyon timber]

iirc his note was during DF

Thigns are new now so more things have to be considered and figured out.

[outer sky]

in DF kingsbane was hitting for 1/3rd of peoples health

[halcyon timber]

That was the catalyst surely

[graceful ravine]

why buy the tier legs over the chest since it doesnt have any verse on it?

chest is verse/crit

[outer sky]

for what spec

[graceful ravine]

assa

[outer sky]

because thats an insane amount of mastery

highest mastery stat stick you can get

[graceful ravine]

hm ok

[outer sky]

and thats what does your damage

[graceful ravine]

i shall follow the pins mindlessly

[outer sky]

good boy

[graceful ravine]

i do think its kinda silly to be able to buy 7 epics week 1

[halcyon timber]

probably a good change in the long run. People always cried about gear this and gear that.

vault was lame anyway honestly

[outer sky]

yeah i'm glad they sped up gearing

[halcyon timber]

Speeding up gearing is good

[graceful ravine]

ya i guess its good for my boomer ass

[halcyon timber]

allows friends to return and catch up and such

[graceful ravine]

just havent seen this before

so fast

[halcyon timber]

All good things

[outer sky]

I'd be 100% okay with them flat out removing time gating

I have gold

if I can pay someone to make me gear

why shouldnt I be able to

like come on

[narrow tangle]

got 6-0 without any addons and bugged ui no gladius

ofc it was low mmr lobby but felt good

[indigo lava]

Greetings

whats the pvp spec for warmode thing

as a subtlety

[outer sky]

its in the pins

the amount of relief I feel when I queue into my SS lobby and I see it's all melee is unreal

[halcyon timber]

Lol like taking a bad dump

Did a few blitz , people are treating it like a random bg and thats the problem. Aint moving, aint responding or doing anything other than humping a football and thinking you have time to get farm back and sheet.

[wet crown]

They're keeping the knockback.

The knockup is being removed

[halcyon timber]

Ah mk well sheet

[wet crown]

At least that means they can't knock up into blast wave to send you to another country

[halcyon timber]

Im expecting db + drac wing buffet to be their go to

Or maybe blast wave and save wing for healer casts

Do they inherit the increased armor for being dracthyr as well or is that evoker only?

[wet crown]

Idk

[forest compass]

hi guys

what items change in to set for rogue?

sub

[outer sky]

thats evoker only

[outer sky]

everything besides gloves

[halcyon timber]

Good to know and think about. Appreciate the intel.

[forest compass]

ok ty

can i us 2 same rings?

[outer sky]

as long as they dont say "unique-equipped" then yes

[halcyon timber]

2 conquest? No but you can use another like a crafted one and one conquest

[forest compass]

i was going to craft 2 of Algari

[halcyon timber]

Yeah the unique equipped rules apply as always

[outer sky]

you can also use 2 of the same crafted rings

[outer sky]

yes you can

[forest compass]

thats good

[halcyon timber]

I dig crafting being useful

Custom stuff is always nice

[halcyon timber]

What are you finding is the biggest pain in the butt concerning casters atm?

Aff is a given but dev is a close second if people are being lazy not stopping them . Frost as well but yeah.

Ungas are bunga’ing too much atm

[outer sky]

its literally just maintaining any kind of pressure without easy access to cleave

[halcyon timber]

Lots of bar room brawling atm

[graceful ravine]

where do i buy sockets?

[jolly sierra]

from the guy which sells the bloodstones

[wet crown]

Losing shadow dust is going to suuuuck against mages good lord

[queen grail]

yay i hit 1600

[warm tundra]

i think you could stop at suck

i cant even imagine playing sub without it

especially since from what i understand

there are no compensatory buffs?

[outer sky]

anyone wanna place bets?

who wins

[worthy crag]

Losing shadowdust would be manageable if that was the only change to rogue that happened in TWW, but it's another change that piles up on top of earlier changes like kidney CD nerf

and first dance and sepsis removal

[stoic spruce]

I can't tell kidney was nerfed

If anything, it syncs up with my teammates CDs

[worthy crag]

eh idk, setting a stun go once every 30 seconds is pretty slow

esp for sub rogue that does 0 dmg outside of setups

[outer sky]

does this sound right to you guys?

seems sus but hes higher xp than me

[wanton breach]

you are playing coldblood? why?

[outer sky]

i was facing shadowplay. You cant cleave worth a damn into that. Esp with an rsham. in those situations I spec for more ST dam and take CB +KB

[wanton briar]

how can I swap to alliance

when playing

battlegrounds

?

horde is useless af

[outer sky]

the one and only benefit I see to the kidney nerf is it lining up with tricks

[wanton briar]

PLZ

anyone help

[outer sky]

talk to the mercinary guy

he swaps your faction

[wanton briar]

I cant click him

nothing happens

@outer sky

[outer sky]

hmmm

try the one in valdrakken

[stoic spruce]

@wanton briar you can't swap right now

The faction with the least amount of players cant swap

Horde has less players so horde gets an honor boost to incentivize alliance players to swap

[indigo hill]

Blitz isn't going well... 2 loses and a draw so far. Idk why people don't do objectives.

[outer sky]

anyone else ever feel like in 3s the other team never runs out of damage or defensives

I'm out here dying and they dont even have CDs up

[warm tundra]

only for evoker/dk

[formal crystal]

i win alot of 1v1's but i feel shit useless in 2v2's :p

[loud ember]

Played a 3s game against Mw affli priest

Cocoon every burst window

[outer sky]

that's getting nerfed tuesday thank god

[loud ember]

Warlock dmg nerf too

[outer sky]

and fury nerf

the aff lock nerf is bittersweet for me because I'm pushing with one

[loud ember]

Echoing reprimand nerfed. Good good. Very strong talent. Everyone plays it

[outer sky]

but I understand it has to happen

[loud ember]

[outer sky]

theyre doing way too much damage

[loud ember]

How do you deal with caster comps this expac

Feel like all I can do is use everything to get close and do a burst then I've LOS my healer because of range

[outer sky]

what spec

[loud ember]

RMP as ass

[outer sky]

assa RMP is kinda shit right now. That comp really wants a sub rogue so thats part of your problem

[loud ember]

I can't play sub man

I suck major ding dongs as sub

[outer sky]

the issue is that as assass RMP you dont have the burst damage to kill someone in a cross CC set up right now

[loud ember]

So what's the go to ass comp? Melee cleave?

[outer sky]

assa/affi

[loud ember]

Fair

[outer sky]

even thug is good now

[loud ember]

Mm hunter in thugs right?

[outer sky]

yeah

[loud ember]

Noted

[candid tide]

the rotation needs some time to get down

[loud ember]

It's more that I'm shit at conserving my energy as sub

[candid tide]

thats the first step imo

the freak dmg rotation needs to be hammer down first

and then we can talk about ccing

[loud ember]

Step cheap ambush symbols secret tech tea sepsis evis

Right?

[candid tide]

als the mechanic between thiefs bargain/vanish talent needs to be understood well to manage offensive cds

[candid tide]

yeah everybody got their own take on that

the max macabre one is pretty elaborate

[loud ember]

I'm too much of a monkey to play sub

I've realized this

[candid tide]

dont give up its the only thing i can advice regarding getting better

[outer sky]

i quit playing sub because i hate living and dying by DRs in a game where most players use CC just to be disruptive

[loud ember]

I feel that

[outer sky]

assa and outlaw also care about DRs more than other classes but not nearly as much as sub

[loud ember]

Sometimes it's nice to turn your brain off. That's why I have a ret alt

[candid tide]

i wondering is it better to cheap from subterfuge then dance rotation

or dance and cheap then rotation

[outer sky]

cheap from subterfuge

[candid tide]

yeah thats should be the correct way right

then the correct optimal perfect opener on sub would be i guess either:

preblades and apply some rupture on targets then slice and dice(optional), then thiefs bargain debuff is run out a bit, then last seconds of subterfuge use Cheap or Kidney into Dance/symbols/tea/Strike/rupture/sepsis/sectech/cheap shot/evi/cheapshot/evi

[outer sky]

I just noticed feral is getting a ton of buffs on tuesday too

wtf

they def dont need it

[candid tide]

gotta survive that initial bleed burst mang

pray for the healer

[outer sky]

I'm literally dying to fury warr damage through ironbark

Like I see I have ironbark and my druid isnt CCd

and the entire time im thinking

"i dont actually have to evasion this do i?"

guess what

I do

[warm tundra]

am i wrong for dooming about shadowdust and passive thisle tea?

[wintry dew]

thistle tea wont be passive

but it will have a passive component added

[warm tundra]

so mastery buff remains a button?

[wintry dew]

ye

[warm tundra]

oh nvm thats great then

[indigo hill]

Fury is crazy atm. Afflock. Fmage as well. Had bg with 5 F mages against me... for some reason nothing has changed for the upcoming reset.

[warm tundra]

but still shadowdust....

[wintry dew]

that will auto proc if you go under 30

not 30%, literally 30 energy

[warm tundra]

were essentially losing a 3rd charge of shadow dance and a LOT of survivability

im sure the experienced sub players wont find it as damaging

[brave estuary]

hows daily bg conquest work? do i do each one daily or what?

[warm tundra]

but if ur like me and just kind of rotate your buttons, losing so much CD on every defensive/offensive seems crazy

[warm tundra]

so now instead of pressing for 100, we have 3 charges of 30 energy?

or am i misunderstanding?

[wintry dew]

"will auto proc if you go under 30"

thats the passive part

you chug a charge if you go under 30 energy

[warm tundra]

kk

[indigo hill]

Does Duskthread lining stack?

[outer sky]

yes

[indigo hill]

Ty

[dapper chasm]

Does anyone have a working fix for LoseControl so I can play this game without feeling disgusted and empty inside?

[indigo hill]

Why does my enemy team always have the strongest specs ?

[outer sky]

Because when a spec is really good more people play it so you'll see it more often

[dense cosmos]

Flavor of the month spec

is a term for a reason

[indigo hill]

I know but why do i not get them on my team. Just did a hotmogu with 3 rogue. Enemy team 4 fury war and a frost mage.

[outer sky]

Bad RNG I guess

[dapper chasm]

I had a similar issue, but where every enemy feels weak and feeble to me

Different strokes, I guess

[outer sky]

Fire mage is trash tier right now

[indigo hill]

Was F for frost. 😄

[obsidian plume]

yo, does warrior have a full inmunity now?

[wintry dew]

10 sec arena

[warm tundra]

should i be playing assa rogue more like a melee affliction?

[potent pivot]

It probably needs the same override that most addons needed at the start of the expansion, if it hasn’t been updated

[wintry dew]

What

the

fuck

is

this

shit

warrior IS SO FUCKING OP

HE LITERALLY DELETED 2 ROUNDS

IN THE OPENER

[warm tundra]

anyone got a link or something to the shadowdust removal from sub?

[potent pivot]

You can go onto wowhead to see the new talent trees, didn’t save the link to the post

[wintry dew]

Its literally impossible

to climb

above 1700

when a fury fucking warrior can one shot me in 2 globals

[heady swift]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/talent-calc/rogue/subtlety

here

[potent pivot]

Sometimes you gotta blow evasion in their opener

Or insta step someone

[wintry dew]

the warrior dominated the arena alone

whoever he chose would die

died

they also take no dmg for some reason

[warm tundra]

:/

idk man this sounds like a terrible nerf

[hexed hound]

Hello pvpers I’m a returning player and have some trouble finding a PvP guide where I can find a good talent build PvP talents etc. I really enjoy world PvP and so far only used my m+ build but I wanna do some bgs and arena aswell so I figured I might ask here for some advice on build and specc for PvP

[potent pivot]

check the pins

[lone anvil]

At the risk of sounding completely bad at Rogue. Is Reprimand really that important to use on rogue? I see it on a lot of top rated assassination specs right now. but it's hard to use in pvp content. And all of the material I can read on it says it's glitched and doesnt work and actually apply extra damage going back a few years

[indigo hill]

Fury needs about 70% damage nerf across the board. Self healing should not even be a thing they can do.

[hexed hound]

Ty! Didn’t think about the pins haha I will read them now

[orchid plinth]

All specs are viable but have different play styles. Play the one you enjoy the most and check the pins.

[potent pivot]

i can't think of anyone that plays assa who plays ER

it does apply extra damage, it isn't bugged for base interactions

but idk who you're looking at

[lone anvil]

Umm someone told me to look players up on "Murlick.io"

[potent pivot]

don't do that for a few weeks

[lone anvil]

I'm a returning player, we used to use wow armory

[warm tundra]

ive not seen any sin rogues use taht in pvp

[lone anvil]

Could you recommend a good starter assassa build for me

[wintry dew]

ER DS fixed

[potent pivot]

murloc is basically bricked for the first month of any season

[hexed hound]

I just learned there are builds in the pins

[potent pivot]

pins

[potent pivot]

it is?

[warm tundra]

@potent pivot you still think kingsbane aint worth it for pvp?

[lone anvil]

People directed me to Pina before and I didn't know what I was looking at

[wintry dew]

yep

[potent pivot]

only into certain comps

[wintry dew]

fixed over night

[lone anvil]

There was some icy veins link that was hard to follow

[warm tundra]

which ones

[lone anvil]

Id prefer a guide or build that a known top player uses like a rank 1 or something

[lone anvil]

Yes

[lone anvil]

So helpful.

🙏🏼

[potent pivot]

copy the import string

and import it into your talent window in game

[potent pivot]

like, last night or what

that would prolly explain people running it

probably just testing it out

[potent pivot]

caster comps

comps you can't get much IC value into

[wintry dew]

like 12 hours ago

[warm tundra]

i wish i could proc deathmark with garrote

[potent pivot]

not listed in the hotfixes?

i hope they fixed the combat bug

[lone anvil]

I found it, tyvm

[potent pivot]

they didn't fix the combat bug :/

[terse bolt]

i haven't seen a rogue in bgs for ages

i Q blitz and we are 3 on the same team

QQ

[brave zenith]

Hi, should i be getting 2 crafted weps or wait for the weapons of conquest quest?

[potent pivot]

at most 1 crafted wep. but it's generally recommended to wait for the quest

[brave zenith]

Thanks, what should i be using my [Forged Gladiator's Heraldry] on?

[potent pivot]

there's a gearing FAQ linked in the pins

gives some options

[warm tundra]

is there any decent playstyle guide for pvp assa?

[potent pivot]

not really

you just spread bleeds to as many targets as possible

[blazing copper]

What does he mean exactly? I got everything else, just how do i get the chest piece that easily?

[potent pivot]

we haven't been using it on chest

we've been using it on legs

but it doesn't matter which you do

[blazing copper]

Yeah i havent done it eyt

[potent pivot]

you need to hit 1600 rating for a tier token

[blazing copper]

yet*

Oh so thaaaaats the game

Does solo shuffle count or na?

[potent pivot]

ya

any bracket

[blazing copper]

oh ok ez

He went for algari competitors leather trousers

odd

[potent pivot]

it literally doesn't matter

that's a waste of heraldries though

because you need tier legs later anyway

[blazing copper]

kk

fair point

Do you keep vicious bloodstone for something or i can sell it for gold

[potent pivot]

Check the bottom of the gearing FAQ

Those are used for sockets

[narrow tangle]

can you make trickster work

some kind of pve sustain dps build

and burst with coup de grace

[shadow forge]

I’ve seen a few subs use it in rbgs, because you can hang on to stacks and go to other nodes with them ready to go. Seems pretty particular to get value from, but it’s not impossible

[narrow tangle]

it must've already been tried but

[potent pivot]

you can make it work yeah

none of the hero talent+spec combinations are inherently bad

they're tuned somewhat close

trickster Coup de Grace GCD locks you

it's very weird and can fuck you

Deathstalker has better defensive use, and decent mobility with Step CDR

technically Trickster is better for cleaving with Sub

but that is only truly useful into melee cleaves in 3v3, and still being tested to see if viable at a high level

there's some fun one shot gimmick builds with Trickster for BGs/duels/2s

but they sacrifice a lot to pour all their power into big ER+Goremaws

[stoic spruce]

Gonna go to a friend's house and edit their details to have anime tiddies as a background.

My silliness know no bounds

[wintry dew]

Why is crippling poison worthless?

im the rogue poisoning everyone yet i'm the one AFK

99% slows

are amazing

[potent pivot]

that's kinda just how assa feels right now ngl

DK/frost etc

[wintry dew]

every arena is fury warrior, Udk,frost mage

i cant play the game

[potent pivot]

i genuinely don't find warrior as hard to deal with

but when they're paired with MM/udk/frost mage yeah

[wintry dew]

i saw multiple fury warriors oneshotting on the opener

[potent pivot]

when i play my dk

[wintry dew]

i legit can't climb rn

[potent pivot]

i feel like a god

[wintry dew]

im 1700 stuck

[potent pivot]

compared to rogue that i've played for years and years

i've played DK for 3 weeks

lmfao

[wintry dew]

I felt the same when i played warrior S3

[blazing copper]

might just reroll dk and go gladiator

[stoic spruce]

Yeeees

Funnel more wins to me

[lone anvil]

Is DK that face roll lol

[potent pivot]

i mean you still need some mechanical skill for the game

it's just nowhere near as technical as rogue

it's also just not as reliant on anything like stealth

[low rover]

I’ve only recently started playing rogue but I’m having a hard time getting uptime on anyone how am I being kited so easily lol

[forest compass]

guys how i can get second set piece

i have one from turning conquest

[potent pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1283780831147589713

[forest compass]

is there som token reword for arena?

[potent pivot]

yes

[forest compass]

oh 1.6

[vague comet]

went to 1.9 in solos as assa

got 1-5 destroyed by affli+ ranged dps

holy fuck what do I do against double range

[potent pivot]

Well affli is getting nerfed on Tuesday

But that doesn’t fully solve our problems

[wintry dew]

Cry

[potent pivot]

Forevermad

[wintry dew]

I'm mad because of fury / udk

[potent pivot]

That they took our freedom sprint and gave it to DKs with 2 charges

[wintry dew]

doesn't feel fair

Trickz

bless me with a 4-2

and my journey will be over

[potent pivot]

[wintry dew]

the healer diff has been huge as well

usually 1 totally dominates

[potent pivot]

Pray you q into full melee lobby with no war/dk

Ferals and rets only

[wintry dew]

Amen

the thing is

i KNOW i can do it

but i wanna do it ASAP

so i dont have to think about it for the rest of the season

i hate fomo

[vague comet]

im kind

tilted

i feel like

rogue is so trash

i literally see no rogues in solos

[wintry dew]

rogue isnt trash

the op specs are op

[candid tide]

did whaazz and raiku dumped chas ?

[vague comet]

evokers and locks

are out of this fucking planet

so cancer it makes me wanna delete

or just level one lol

this fucking flying shit has to be nerfed on half the range

[candid tide]

fk furry wars man

[halcyon timber]

Watching evokers tokyo drift around a pillar 3-4x with deep breathe is kinda ridiculous

[echo snow]

What do you spend conquest on week 2

[halcyon timber]

There’s a big recommended list in the pins iirc

[echo snow]

There is stuff for this week not for next week I think

Also are pve and pvp catalyst charges seperate am I just cooked for pvp tier set if I wanna convert mythic pieces next week

[potent pivot]

i cannot see the future homie

most likely we just buy tier piece items off the vendor

if we can afford it

there's not much else we can do

[stoic spruce]

The gap between a good and bad dk is miles long. Fotm dks are usually easy pickings for rogues.

[potent pivot]

buy wpvp to supplement slots

buy conq to turn into tier later

[wintry dew]

a rogue

just destroyed my dream

0-6

i hate this game

[stoic spruce]

Sub?

[wintry dew]

y

[halcyon timber]

Puny church man in long clothes no heal

[surreal barn]

Pull it together Ravenholdt

[stoic spruce]

Yeah we hate sub rogues

[wintry dew]

fucking hell

he was from the fucking matrix

he cced the fucking whole team

in every go

perfect play

[halcyon timber]

Panda knows

About em

[stoic spruce]

Even at their worst. Sub does that

[wintry dew]

1791 back to 1734

god fucking damn it

[potent pivot]

[stoic spruce]

Sub has never been bad

[potent pivot]

you're trolling right

[surreal barn]

He is new

[potent pivot]

he's gotta be new

[stoic spruce]

I have the ability that Sub rogues don't have and that's looking at things from an outside perspective

[potent pivot]

I have the ability that Outlaw rogues don't have and that's looking at things from an outside perspective

[indigo hill]

Pretty such sub was shite for a big part in df.

[potent pivot]

i fixed it for you

[halcyon timber]

Lets get your apple juice grandpop, the big war is over

[surreal barn]

Sub always has a high rep on the ladder bc everyone knows you push the first month then no one does shit after the giant nerf it always gets

[stoic spruce]

It's impossible for rogues to be bad with our tool kit

If we don't do dmg, we have infinite CC

[warm tundra]

sub bout to become dogshit when shadowdust is gone

[spring bough]

What up party people how’s the games going today

[wet crown]

there's one

[warm tundra]

but maybe it will get a compensatory buff sometime later

[stoic spruce]

Good

[wet crown]

losing manual thistle tea KEKW

[stoic spruce]

I do damage and have infinite cc

[wintry dew]

i wanna unalive myself

really hard

[halcyon timber]

Its not infinite, that’s slander and supreme exaggeration which the jackass masses believe

[potent pivot]

you could try blitz maybe

[spring bough]

RIP. Just won my first blitz. 70 off this grand marshal mog lol

[potent pivot]

shuffle is a shit show rn

[halcyon timber]

Giving fuel to the crayon eaters

[wintry dew]

i cant live in perma combat bug

[warm tundra]

more fun this way

[stoic spruce]

Sub rogue took an obvious exaggeration seriously, more at 11.

I am here for violence

[halcyon timber]

Because you constantly speak with hyperbolic undertones and attempt to get a rise out of people

[stoic spruce]

Attempt?

Also

[halcyon timber]

Yes sir

[potent pivot]

words too big for outlaw rogue brain

[spring bough]

I had to open a dictionary 😂

[stoic spruce]

I can't think of a time where sub rogue was unironically bad

Rogue*

[halcyon timber]

Also what do you think of popcorn chicken from golden coral?

[stoic spruce]

Based

Love it

[halcyon timber]

Yah that crap is calling me atm

[stoic spruce]

I want to try their steaks but they can't cook steak right

[spring bough]

Definitely go for it

[halcyon timber]

The steaks are ok

[warm tundra]

guys what alts do you have?

i really want to try smth else and its a 3d coin toss beetween druid/hunter/warr

[halcyon timber]

Dunno if i had to cook 400 of them in a day so some family of 12hillbillys could leave dookie stains on my silverware , i would prob not want to cook steaks well either

[warm tundra]

maybe dk?

[stoic spruce]

Dk, fury, uhhhhh and surv

[warm tundra]

yep pretty much my thoughts

surv looks very idk...forgotten

but i like the idea

[halcyon timber]

Shaman might be pretty filthy no?

Hows survival forgotten? (Genuinely asking as I have no idea)

[warm tundra]

is dk easy to play?

[warm tundra]

i find it funny looking like a swiss knife but i cant seem to understand its identity

it backward jumps everywhere, has bombs and traps, some form of rng spenders

[halcyon timber]

Analogy makes sense

[stoic spruce]

Analogy, the study of anal

Thank you Goodnight

[lost anvil]

ello

[halcyon timber]

Popeyes > kfc

[stoic spruce]

Real and true

[lost anvil]

Hey, what spec is preferred among Assassination and Sub for pvp? Also , is there any guide on pvp?

[stoic spruce]

Kfc blows

Assa but Sub ruins dreams apparently

[warm tundra]

sub for shuffle/2s, assa for 3s, nothing useful in guide form

[halcyon timber]

Kfc just makes fart bread now but yeh

[warm tundra]

there's some guy playing sub on a controller his talent tree is ass but he's a good player

[potent pivot]

both are decent atm

[lost anvil]

for sub pvp, we go with trickster?

[potent pivot]

deathstalker

[potent pivot]

i wouldn't agree with this either

[lone anvil]

So I've been getting conflicting information on stat priority for assassination rogues.

I bought all vers/crit gear and my buddy told me mastery was better than crit.

And I asked in one of the threads in this discord and they told me all stats are good on rogue. No good ones no bad ones

But I looked up the top rogues and his secondary stat is mastery

[lost anvil]

for pvp , AFAIK is Vers> mastery

[potent pivot]

if you asked in PvE channels that makes sense

[lone anvil]

What does AFAIK stand for

[lost anvil]

As far as i know

[potent pivot]

as far as i know

[lone anvil]

I asked in the assassination tab which would include PvE and PvP?

[potent pivot]

no

[lost anvil]

no

they speak about pve

[lone anvil]

That's confusing

[potent pivot]

pvp is solely this channel

[lone anvil]

Why doesnt or say PvE lol

[lost anvil]

ikr 😛

[potent pivot]

because this channel is called pvp

[lone anvil]

Yes

But it's a general pvp chat

[potent pivot]

that's all we need

[lone anvil]

That ran is specifically for assassination

And my question was about assassination spec

[potent pivot]

it doesn't matter

did you specify you were asking for pvp

i imagine not

[lone anvil]

I'm suggesting to avoid confusion you could have sub PvE, sub pvp, Assass PvE, Assass pvp, outlaw PvE outlaw pvp.

Or just do a PvE and PvP channel

[potent pivot]

every spec in the game is VASTLY different in pvp

[stoic spruce]

Yeah this makes more sense. I always thought of this

[lost anvil]

does anyone have a talent build for pvp sub that can share? not sure what choices to make

[potent pivot]

it's in the pins

[potent pivot]

i think we're good as is

[stoic spruce]

However that would imply we have to share a channel with pvers and I do not like that Sam I Am

[potent pivot]

people should specify when they ask questions imo

this channel is nowhere near active enough for 3 spec pvp channels

[jolly sierra]

ye

[lone anvil]

I should have specified

[steep kiln]

the big cheeses know pvpers are toxic so they quarantine to one channel, at least in the past

[lone anvil]

But the channels are confusing nonetheless

To me a PVP channel seems broad and an assassination channel seems specialized to me

[stoic spruce]

I would get banned the same day

[jolly sierra]

those are not confusing, ppl outside here hates pvp

if u ask they will throw u here

[lone anvil]

There is a tab that's called assassination and nothing specifically says it's a PvE channel im just supposed to know

[potent pivot]

you really can't have pvp and pve in the same channels

[lone anvil]

Gotcha. Not confusing

[potent pivot]

they are too different

most people ask in the pve channels but specify they are asking for pvp

and they will kindly be directed here

[potent pivot]

happens all the time

[stoic spruce]

You lied out your ass about the kindly part

Lol

[jolly sierra]

ye lol

[lone anvil]

PvP is in misc next to off topic. Assassination is more appealing to new eyes

[potent pivot]

pvp is like

[lone anvil]

If you were new where would your eyes gravitate lol

[jolly sierra]

they would say "ew pvp" or "imaging playing pvp"

[potent pivot]

a tiny portion of the playerbase

[stoic spruce]

I agree pvp shouldn't be in misc though

[potent pivot]

idk

can we move on

[halcyon timber]

Reverse uno, the pvers are class hijackers and hiveminded

[stoic spruce]

No

[potent pivot]

your question was about stats

[potent pivot]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[stoic spruce]

Now I'm mad that pvp is under misc

[potent pivot]

and i'm mad for you that crackshot is good

anyway

[stoic spruce]

Aw ty bbg 💓

[halcyon timber]

Its like the skit of people paying money to argue for 5 min in monty python

[lost anvil]

so question, why do we like danse macabre?

[potent pivot]

big dam

[lost anvil]

during Shadowdance, dont we mostly spam shadowstrike?

[heady swift]

Dont you like to DANSE?!

[potent pivot]

no

[heady swift]

COME ON Rai, danse with me!

[halcyon timber]

It builds damage. Its just old find weakness that rewards you for thinking

[potent pivot]

yes and no

[stoic spruce]

Shaboink

[halcyon timber]

Key and peele reference? Haha

[stoic spruce]

Who?

[potent pivot]

even if u press strike multiple times, your other different abilities still build dance stacks

sepsis, strike, rupture, evis, secret tech

etc

[halcyon timber]

They say that in a skit.

Is why

[stoic spruce]

No no. I mean who asked?

Guys I think blizz made Trickster specifically for me

[lost anvil]

yeah but wouldnt delay the stacking since we will prolly spam shadowstrike a few times before we use smth else?

[stoic spruce]

No it just came to my mind. Idk why I said it.

[potent pivot]

doesn't really matter, sub is all about stacking damage modifiers. danse is a damage modifier

[lost anvil]

okay

[halcyon timber]

https://preview.redd.it/its-joever-v0-ng6bnstwmrub1.jpg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8673f56023e864d0968b6e9ce17b51dd50289a1e

[potent pivot]

there's not really anything better to choose over danse

[lost anvil]

so whats the opener looks like?

[heady swift]

Why would you do that?

[lone anvil]

Ty for stats @potent pivot I got my confusion resolved. Unfortunately I have all of this crit honor gear I bought lmao

[potent pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAVWeKeyYMk

[potent pivot]

honor gear barely matters, just be glad you got this sorted before buying conquest stuff lol

that would've been tragic

but really

you aren't THAT screwed up using different stats

it's a very minmax thing

[safe pelican]

I need an add on so that i can see my fucking target

[lost anvil]

hahahha

[safe pelican]

And know who my teammate is targeting for shuffle

[lost anvil]

it's called eyes

XD

[safe pelican]

There’s no was you’re seeing a highlighted red circle at someone’s feet when there’s 80 billion animations covering the arena floor

[lost anvil]

hahah i know dude, im messing with u

[safe pelican]

Lmao this shuffle i was just in with a Dk has me pissed man has like 25 pets i can’t see shit

[plucky escarp]

I was trying out a build I saw on Shadenox’s profile. I feel like fate bound cold blood / kyrian kind of pumps but I need way more haste to drop tea

[potent pivot]

idk how i feel about that build yet

you give up a lot

[halcyon timber]

XD vs dk / shaman / demo in a shuffle definitely. Most cursed team ever.

[lone anvil]

I wonder why people hate PvP and love PvE in all the MMOs.

Id get so bored without both. Like when PvP gets toxic or stressful I PvE and vice versa.

[lost anvil]

is there a way to make tab targeting ignore pets /minions?

[plucky escarp]

No tea or no vanishes is pretty tragic rn - maybe if you had more haste gear but I swapped Cloak, double ring and neck + haste trinket to all haste and it still felt like piss to me

But I am spoiled by tea for energy mgmt

[halcyon timber]

Bc confronting a robot doesn’t end in irl pvp to them

[lost anvil]

I don't think we will ever drop tea tbh

[safe pelican]

That’s exactly what it was minus the demo

[potent pivot]

i don't think we ever drop vanish either

[lost anvil]

yeah

[halcyon timber]

Yeah it sucks . I look at the ground and have to target like that to get specific totems at times. In a zoo of crazy crap, that’s the only thing that seems to target static field “faster”

[safe pelican]

lol nahh i can’t do this anymore im getting an add on this is my weakest point in shuffle

[halcyon timber]

And other shit

[potent pivot]

Betterblizzplates

[jolly sierra]

both are toxic

but one of them cant defend themselves lol

[wet crown]

More of a world pvp thing but I didn't realize soar basically gave you a free ascend.

[safe pelican]

I have better blizz i guess i need to edit the setting sso the plates are larger

[wet crown]

Can dracthyr be dismounted while soaring?

[halcyon timber]

Yeh

[lost anvil]

@potent pivot whats the reasoning behind Dark brew talent?

[halcyon timber]

They plumet like a rotisserie chicken

[lost anvil]

do we synergize with shadow damage somehow?

[wet crown]

I resent the fact I'm probably making my mage one lol

[exotic cove]

hey anyone else thinks that rogue is kinda squischy in pvp?

[halcyon timber]

Always has been

[potent pivot]

literally 95% of our talents are chosen because they do more damage than other options

sub does a lot of shadow dmg

[exotic cove]

okay, what do you guys would suggest when starting pvp specwise

like sub,assa or outlaw

[potent pivot]

whatever you prefer

[halcyon timber]

Mann double cursed comment xD

[lost anvil]

i get that, but im trying to understand why would we want to convert our damage types to shadow

[potent pivot]

it makes rupture shadow dmg

and amps all shadow dmg by 10%

[lost anvil]

so we take it because of that 10%?

[potent pivot]

and the rupture dmg

[lost anvil]

okay

i guess.

[potent pivot]

you guess?

rupture is sub's top damage

[lost anvil]

yeah i mean, it's up to the numbers i guess.

[potent pivot]

shadowblades also causes you to deal an additional 20% dmg as shadow

[halcyon timber]

BTW walmart’ jimmy dean blueberry pancake sausage on a stick (frozen isle) thoughts?

[lost anvil]

okay, cool. ty

[orchid plinth]

https://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19089-RETabBinder-PVPSmartTargeting.html

[stoic spruce]

Can't taste the blueberry

[heady swift]

its modifier on modifier on modifier basically

[halcyon timber]

Yeah I usually destroy those fast

Freakin deadly af

[spring bough]

How the hell are yall dealing with devo in solo

[halcyon timber]

You punch them in the pp

[spring bough]

Half the time CCing them up and they still delete everything. So far they just training heals today

[vague comet]

so whenever I meat a devo, I think going healer is the only option

[halcyon timber]

No idea especially when they are paired with mage / aff / dk

[stoic spruce]

Right in the cloaca

[halcyon timber]

Kinda just stay there to be annoying so people don’t randomly die to triple disintegrate nonsense

[wet crown]

I was already going to change to human or something so why not be an op human lel

Belf racial dedge

[warm tundra]

what are the best pvp dps that dont require a lot of target switching, specifically target switching for cc

[wintry dew]

fury

[wet crown]

Marksman and frost are up there

[halcyon timber]

LF unga bunga you mean?

[warm tundra]

isnt frost requiring some poly shit to pop off?

[warm tundra]

yeaa

[wintry dew]

fury 100%

[warm tundra]

as scary and royal said

[wet crown]

I mean, in arenas and such sure but you're able to go full ape mode on people if you want

[warm tundra]

right now im choosing beetwen warr dk and hunter

[halcyon timber]

Panda can tell you a great tale about them

[wet crown]

marksman and surv bang, gonna be harder than war or dk tho

[halcyon timber]

And bm just received some amps too

[stoic spruce]

Yeah they solo just about every breakfast food

[halcyon timber]

So just be an idiot at range while 14 wild dogs chew on someone’s belly button to death

[wet crown]

I can't play bm.

to be clear, I can play it, but I'd rather watch paint dry

IDK how anyone can play that spec

[warm tundra]

thats me with mm

[halcyon timber]

Jimmy dean breakfast sausage biscuits w maple syrup are deadly

[wet crown]

I was that way for mm but it's alright for pvp.

at least dark ranger

[candid tide]

wth i lost 3k honor transfering to alt

[halcyon timber]

Bc they swear what they are doing is fantastically artful like watching a methhead who has been huffing paint for 6 hours trying to convince everyone he can shoot spider webs out of his cornholio and swing across the golden gate bridge unscathed

[lost anvil]

any idea what "blades/modifiers" mean?

i assume blades = shadowblades

[halcyon timber]

Yep

That’s it

[wet crown]

the only people more delusional are paladins who loh in a duel.

[lost anvil]

but what about "modifiers"

[halcyon timber]

Any amps

[lost anvil]

like trinkets etc?

[halcyon timber]

Yes sir

[lost anvil]

cool, ty

[candid tide]

paladins with 10 shields

[halcyon timber]

Just wait till paladin can DS with forbearance

[wet crown]

paladins getting buffed btw

because if paladins need anything

it's more defensives

[halcyon timber]

AFTER UGREAWHHHHHHHH me hab de light an Smash U as they bop aggro

[lost anvil]

do we play Symbols in there as well? is it a part of "modifiers"?

[wet crown]

I think they run the sun spec now

[sweet swallow]

are we buying leg and helm tier piece first?

mm

[halcyon timber]

Then they run behind a pillar and get destroyed to a fuckin hobo looking like mr snape whos been wiffing wd40 and then have to DS and blame the healer

[halcyon timber]

Yes sir. Important elements are needed. Each class has varying increments of low / moderate / high impact cds. When paired together (especially in our case) are very effective

[wet crown]

paladins can literally be t he best spec in the game and they'd find a way to be a victim about it

We know this because it happened in df s2/s3 and sl s1

[halcyon timber]

They are attempting to honey dick people into thinking they need a buff when they hit people for 3-4 things at a time every few globals

Which is prob close to 1.2m in a global

[wet crown]

Rets justify frost mages to me

someone has to be there to kick their ass.

[halcyon timber]

Against mage, just having to be more patient

[stoic spruce]

Literally DKs point of existence

[halcyon timber]

Like way more

[wet crown]

Most dks are bots

[stoic spruce]

For every good dk there's 100 bad ones

[halcyon timber]

dk should be shoving mages into the ground and riding their ass like a dollar store snowboard down a hill

[spring bough]

Guys blitz is giving pretty good rating. I’d hit up games. Fast Que too

[wet crown]

hmm

[spring bough]

At 1730 and MMR is 2k just got like 20 rating from a win

[halcyon timber]

Blitz is def fun

Just not when people are treating it like a random bg

[spring bough]

We played the carts right on this one

[halcyon timber]

Move fast , cap and fk off fast

[spring bough]

Got a real good win

Rogue for top cart is OP especially with haymaker off bridge into water

[halcyon timber]

Yeah stole 7-9 flags last night while the same heehaw and the fuck around gang sat in middle fighting 3 resto Druids and 2 dks

Me scuzy, 2 resto druids , balance , and 2 dks

[wet crown]

tfw the flag carrier is cc'd in the midde lf the mosh pit while smoke bombed and nobody helps you kill them

[halcyon timber]

Yeah just fuggin people man

[hollow carbon]

20 rating seems really low no? Shuffle give way more

[lost anvil]

do we use SnD at all for sub pvp?

[halcyon timber]

Yes

Snd is very important

And in the patch it is completely passive anyway

[spring bough]

feels pretty quick. ques like 3min games about 7 lol

[hollow carbon]

Oh is blitz way faster than a random bg?

[halcyon timber]

Just throw up an snd and maintain with eviscerate

Blitz is like 2-3 min queue at most

Its def a lot of fun

[lost anvil]

ty

[halcyon timber]

No sweat man

[hollow carbon]

May try it out but I’m so used to playing arenas

[halcyon timber]

Practice and don’t get frustrated.

[lost anvil]

the only frustration for me is immortal healers

like

there's no way to fucking kill them

[halcyon timber]

Yeah man , its nice to just do which ever pops up first

[spring bough]

Way faster games

[halcyon timber]

Everything can die, its just a matter of what tools do we have at the time and what conditions are favorable / unfavorable

[halcyon timber]

Yeah its fun af. I did a shit ton while we were in pre rated version as well.

[lost anvil]

dunno dude, feels like im doing no damage to them

and if i pop my cd's they heal insta back up

[halcyon timber]

Yeah that’s normal

[spring bough]

Yeah I got up to commander. Now it’s try grand marshal maybe this weekend just gaming all day 😂

[hollow carbon]

As rogue you have to punish mistakes and use momentum to put them under pressure and kill. Takes a lot of practice and knowledge when rogue isn’t overtuned. But I agree it’s way harder to kill a good healer in a setting without dampening

[halcyon timber]

Man ive got finals like hell tiis week but i def want to play tonight (hopefully)

Yeah 100% agreed

Blackjack is a very important tool

[lost anvil]

problem is i dont know how to exploit their weakness, because i have almost no knowledge on their class

[halcyon timber]

Been asking for that back for years ha . Def creates a good opportunity

[lost anvil]

like what to avoid , when to retreat, when to wait and stuff

[spring bough]

I’m playing for the next like 12 hours no lifing lmaoooo

All day tomorrow too fk it lol

[halcyon timber]

That comes with experience and fighting other classes Rai

It isn’t a “only this” or “do this every time” type deal

[hollow carbon]

Usually when you hit em to like 70-80% and you get a kick on them, you can start an offensive rotation with chaining stuns into gouge and blind, sap and then reopen them with low hp and ur CDs back

[halcyon timber]

Being able to adapt, react quickly, and meet with escalating aggression is big

[wintry dew]

5-1

to 0-6

i was 6 points away from 1800

[hollow carbon]

The biggest learning you will have after basic principles of CD trading is using so called momentum in your favor

[halcyon timber]

Ex is a healer with a multi school or only school gets locked. Can extend 3s interruption into a stun or use that to instead kidney them during where they have to trinket if your team gets online and dumpsters them

[hollow carbon]

I feel you

[halcyon timber]

2 diff scenarios where “it depends “ can be really detrimental.

[wintry dew]

always the fucking assholes

always the same classes

in the 1800 range

[blazing copper]

XDDDDD

[stoic spruce]

Now you understand why I hate specific specs/classes

Its completely justified

[halcyon timber]

Yeah the giant ass - rating swings are infuriating . Especially when you did all you could and some dork just sabotages being lazy

[blazing copper]

solo shuffle as a rogue is just...

suicide

[heady swift]

DW everything will be nerfed in november @wintry dew and we are getting HUGE buffs

[wintry dew]

This is a thing i NEED to do before the weekend end

[heady swift]

time to play epic BGs till november, ITS FINE

[halcyon timber]

Hell yeh man. Ill get after it again maybe later tonight. I have like 5-6 exams so yeah. Not fun atm

[narrow tangle]

any dr tracker

[wintry dew]

i swear to god i cant do more than what i already do

its just SO MANY OP CLASSES FFS

[blazing copper]

I just died to a monk war in solo, they one shot me in a stun

[halcyon timber]

Tmw or the diminish in the pins

[potent pivot]

Sir

[wintry dew]

what the fuck am i supposed to do VS spriest/frost mage?!

[potent pivot]

You are going to start a riot

[heady swift]

hahahaa

[potent pivot]

Everything is getting nerfed TUESDAY

[heady swift]

[potent pivot]

Kill the sp

[wintry dew]

i cant reach him

[halcyon timber]

Hit them both xD no joke

[wintry dew]

i cant

reach

them

[halcyon timber]

Yeh it sucks

[wintry dew]

i'm afk 99% of the match

rooted, fear, snared,

slowed 90%

and WHEN i reach them

[hollow carbon]

A good win condition in shuffle is always to find the worst player and do everything to exploit them 😁

[wintry dew]

they did

i went 0-6

[hollow carbon]

Yeah happens sometimes

[halcyon timber]

That’s a team issue

[tawdry imp]

my favourite thing about frost mage is that they have every root and snare under the sun on top of 94 blinks and IF you get to them you can randomly proc a frostbite root that they don't even have to press a button for

[halcyon timber]

XD

[tawdry imp]

someone looked at their toolkit and said no, we need one more root

[potent pivot]

The tunnel vision in shuffle is real

[exotic cove]

but also this is a reason why/how pvp is dying out 😄

[wintry dew]

i'm afk so much time i can actually look at the whole arena

waiting to move

oh and the best part

it was the new SL arena, the open area one

[halcyon timber]

Its not dying out, that’s an immature meme

[spring bough]

Which one of yall cracked out on gems and have 9/9 sockets?

[halcyon timber]

Nope lol

[tawdry imp]

doubt it's growing either

[tawdry imp]

the bastion one?

[wintry dew]

y

[potent pivot]

PvP participation has been sky rocketing afaik

[wintry dew]

i looked like a target dummy

in the middle of the arena

[exotic cove]

solo shuffle que as dd is longer then in df season 4

[wintry dew]

thats also because of pve

[halcyon timber]

Not going to grow if people keep dooming and talking trash about it

[candid tide]

which region is sparks today?

[potent pivot]

No it isn’t lmao

[spring bough]

5/9 on sockets wonder if I can get 4 today lol

[blazing copper]

When the burst goes well

[potent pivot]

Not even close

[exotic cove]

it is

[stoic spruce]

What are you talking about?

[potent pivot]

Have you even played the game?

[tawdry imp]

think the game itself is more likely to get in the way of that

[exotic cove]

yes?

[wintry dew]

Q's have been somewhat fast

[exotic cove]

it is now about 25 minutes

as dd

[wintry dew]

5-15 mins

[exotic cove]

in df it was 7-12

[candid tide]

depends on ur rating and mmr

at lower rating average is 8 mins

[heady swift]

WHO COMPLAINED?! HUH

NOW IM MAD

[potent pivot]

Your very first queue takes that long because 0mmr

[halcyon timber]

Jeeze yeah ive got 2 and a 3rd rdy to go. Just kinda holding off a little longer

[stoic spruce]

Me

[exotic cove]

what you want?

[stoic spruce]

Screw sub

[candid tide]

nahj at 2k+ gets nothing in 50mins

[exotic cove]

i guess my mmr is higher than yours

[potent pivot]

DF s4 queues were 25min

[stoic spruce]

Also L solo shuffle

[potent pivot]

Very funny

[exotic cove]

then what is your mmr?

[hollow carbon]

I would say there are other reasons tbh 🙂

[halcyon timber]

Sour patch watermelons ? Thoughts sir?

[stoic spruce]

Hmmmmm

8/10

[halcyon timber]

Pretty good, wish they were slightly more tangy

[stoic spruce]

My favorite gummies actually

Real

[exotic cove]

i talked to some people also some new palyers and they said they quit it almsot directly because of this but ye it is what it is

[spring bough]

Think I’m just queuing blitz all day

Lost my first solo rounds cause of a devo but just got back up lol. Not chancing it again

[stoic spruce]

That moment you find a decent healer in lfg

[potent pivot]

I read this as “I want to be muted”

[stoic spruce]

Hrngggg

[halcyon timber]

They quit bc fighting a chuck e cheese robot is easier than a player

[stoic spruce]

It's the wow version of post your bench

[tawdry imp]

this makes it sound like that's some weak choice on their end

[narrow tangle]

@potent pivot thank you for your efforts, I've just checked pins and i appreciate it

[exotic cove]

why so toxic?

[potent pivot]

[halcyon timber]

Yeah i think im just going to stop while im ahead each time. Some matches , people just really want to unga bunga

[stoic spruce]

It is

[tawdry imp]

lmao

[hollow carbon]

Yeah that’s one for example, ppl getting frustrated very fast and are entitled that they deserve x or y rating

[halcyon timber]

They think people should just target dummy it up and 1 wall should save them no matter what. Its like that in other games too.

New people play, they get pissy and do the same thing

[stoic spruce]

M+ with pvp mains is the god tier push team

[potent pivot]

I haven’t said anything toxic. I stated a fact that your very first queue in a bracket takes longer. It’s also a fact that after that first game queues are fast. You’re the one trying to say your mmr is higher etc

[tawdry imp]

entirely fair for people to find wow pvp frustrating because it's absolutely not designed in any way to be approachable

[exotic cove]

someone said here also at 2k rating it takes for him about 50 mins

[stoic spruce]

Season just started though