Yes
#pvp
chrome schooner
I need to itemize a bit better to really play that
You do need haste if you drop the tea
And imo you have to drop the tea
I mean optimal damage would be to drop vanish
but in pvp you can't
so you have to drop the tea
because yah you need the branch in the middle
plus in 11.0.5 you will have to play it anyway if I read correctly
and yeah Fatebound does have one completely insane talent, and that's Deal Fate
This one is amazing
chrome schooner
I read on the changes that they want to replace the branch with Echoing to make something that causes Shiv/Symbols/whatever for Outlaw to overcharge CPs instead
And that's really really good
potent pivot
That only makes DN envenom even stronger as well
But also
The ER node now costs 2 points instead of 1
So you lose another talent taking the ER pathway
It seems very bad just from looking at it
indigo hill
Which leg enchant do people use?
grizzled basin
Is death mark dispelable ?
chrome schooner
The ER node now costs 2 points instead of 1
You don't have to go all the way down
spring bough
I’m still trying to figure out what dev we need to bribe for root breaks back on sprint
potent pivot
Which leg enchant do people use?
the one with the most agi
grizzled basin
Is death mark dispelable ?
death stalker mark I mean
potent pivot
iirc it's agi/stam
potent pivot
death stalker mark I mean
pretty positive that it is not
indigo hill
Stormbound it is.
Im assuming that when i reach my weekly max for conquest that i cant get more conquest points for the weapon quest.
potent pivot
You don't have to go all the way down
True I suppose. Overcharging the 3rd point would just be nice but I doubt it’d be worth dropping one of the other capstones
potent pivot
I just don’t like the sound of losing tea/vigor OR alac/deeper
chrome schooner
with vanish & cb
chrome schooner
deeper is super irrelevant because you rarely use cps on 7, so it ends up being, in practise, only 5% more damage on finishers which is completely overshadowed by a talent that makes shiv give 2 CPs the ability to act as if they consumed 3 more
chrome schooner
assuming they make it work like it used to, if you play 6 CPs it would overcharge 4 and 5 I assume so you get a 7CP and a 8CP (assumption assumption)
no it's 2
potent pivot
no it's 2 additional combo points, on 1 ability
potent pivot
"super charges 1 combo point"
"super charges 2 combo points"
potent pivot
idk where you're getting that from
potent pivot
to me it reads as if 1 finisher uses 2 extra
torpid swan
does goggle scale for pvp?
chrome schooner
Then we shall resume talking :p
potent pivot
it isn't going to work like Resounding anymore
chrome schooner
When they say it charges 2 combo points
hidden moth
Does death mark duplicate existing dots or cause your new ones to duplicate
potent pivot
???
chrome schooner
I mean you just contradict without looking at things it's annoying
potent pivot
it doesn't charge any of them anymore
none of them turn blue
the minigame is gone
chrome schooner
Shiv, upon being pressed, will make 2 cps blue if you ahve 2 points in the talent
That's it
Period
potent pivot
I mean you just contradict without looking at things it's annoying
you're the one losing your patience
wintry dew
Shiv, upon being pressed, will make 2 cps blue if you ahve 2 points in the talen...
As far as we have discussed, this means when you shiv, your next finisher will be the amount of CPS you cast it at +2
chrome schooner
Every past and current iteration of reprimand has said "animacharges/supercharges x combo points"
And guess how many combo points we had that were blue ?
We had X
chrome schooner
...............................................
ok
I will explain a final time
They delete reprimand and resounding
INSTEAD
This effect will be baked into Shiv/Symbols/RtB
The SAME THING
wintry dew
Echoing Reprimand Rework:
You can read it as "shiv empowers your next (1/2) finisher(s), causing them to act as if they were cast with 2 additional combo points (3 with the talent).
Instead of echoing reprimand, it's a two point talent for 1/2 finishers
Instead of resounding clarity, the effect goes from 2 additional cp to 3 additional cp
Instead of reverberation, mut will deal additional damage after consuming a supercharged cp
No longer need to finish on specific combo points (no mini game)
hidden moth
New Talent: Supercharger – Shiv/Roll the Bones/Symbols of Death supercharges [1/2] combo points. Damaging finishing moves consume a supercharged combo point to function as if they spent 2 additional combo points. 2-point talent.
chrome schooner
You do get 2 finishers
wintry dew
Echoing Reprimand Rework:
You can read it as "shiv empowers your next (1/2) fini...
these are Whispyr's notes on the matter
chrome schooner
If you ahve two talent points
Which is the starting point of this silly discussion
hidden moth
Yea but you don’t need to use a finisher with exactly 2 combo points to get benefit
potent pivot
ok cool
chrome schooner
Shiv empowers 1 finisher per talent
chrome schooner
If there's no talent point game w.e it's my bad but the fact remains
2 finishers
it's written
wintry dew
Yeah overall more finishers than ER thats good
chrome schooner
I'm not a dick about it, I just say something that's written on wowhead, on talent calcs, on the notes these guys pasted and the immediate answer is "no"
hidden moth
Yeah overall more finishers than ER thats good
How? Didn’t er charge 3
Combo point 2 3 4 would go blue
chrome schooner
I get annoyed when people contradict with passion while being wrong about something that's easily checkable by reading is all
potent pivot
I'm not a dick about it, I just say something that's written on wowhead, on tale...
when i'm also legit trying to understand what you're saying and asking
chrome schooner
Well
potent pivot
i don't give a fuck
chrome schooner
I said it'll be 2 finishers you answer no
How is that "trying to understand" lmao
Anyways
We know now, it's 2
wintry dew
How? Didn’t er charge 3
oh right right, i read it poorly too :3
chrome schooner
Lets move on
chrome schooner
back to what I said then
chrome schooner
I don't think Deeper will be better than having 2 finishers that consume bonus 3 every Shiv
wintry dew
Shadenox can you bless my journey that is about to beggin to 1800? hehehe
chrome schooner
I bless I bless
wintry dew
all about the drip
chrome schooner
Thoughts on this st opener?
Bad
Opens without a stun or a silence
presses deathmark before any bleed is even applied
Don't do that
hidden moth
Yeah thought so
chrome schooner
There are only 2 ways to open as assa in pvp and it's either cheap or garrote
wintry dew
Don't do that
i didnt check recently, but did you do any video for the start of this season already?
chrome schooner
No I didn't have time but i'll drop a shuffle one today
I have to say though
The games are super messy
hexed pewter
what's the standard sin opener?
hidden moth
I think it depends on how much damage the free swing gives you vs the extra cp on the finisher that’s charged
spring bough
Outlaw out here deleting sin off the map in the lobbies I’ve been in. Battzzi sub has my number tho
chrome schooner
I think it depends on how much damage the free swing gives you vs the extra cp o...
Well
The thing is
The finisher isn't just the finisher
It's also how many combo points are calculated as spent
If you're outlaw, 1 more CP is more CDR with restless blades
as sub it's a good way to abuse flagellation lashes
as assa it has higher chances to proc PB
etc
hidden moth
If you're outlaw, 1 more CP is more CDR with restless blades
Dunno what that is don’t play pirate
Tried to learn sub but so many buttons mixed with symbols feeling like the weirdest cd
Was just off putting
hidden moth
as sub it's a good way to abuse flagellation lashes
What’s that do
chrome schooner
Every CP spent while flag is up deals damage and gives you mastery
hidden moth
Oh yeah that one
chrome schooner
The more you spend at once, the more damage you do, and the more mastery you get
Sending an 8 CP Evis with 8 lashes is definitely decent damage
hidden moth
as assa it has higher chances to proc PB
Pb?
chrome schooner
Poison Bomb
hidden moth
Ah gotcha
vague comet
boys does anyone have a WA/addon for DRs above nameplates?
summer breach
The games are super messy
I noticed the same. And saw more than one reason. dmg is crazy, healing is crazy and the gaps between people at 2k are crazy
chrome schooner
Some games are a walk in the park then there is just 1 decent player on a better class like frost mage
summer breach
yes had Kanketo stomping 6-0
chrome schooner
so you can't win any game against him because he gaps other players and plays a better spec than yours
Or that yeah
healer differences are insane
spring bough
Then you’ll get one DPS that thinks it’s stupid and fks it up
chrome schooner
I think aside from the few lobbies I won myself
summer breach
then next lobby again same people and a deva went 6-0 with average 850k dps
chrome schooner
Either a Mage won all, or a healer won 5 or 6
spring bough
When I can get a disc to 30% by myself. Training healers for both DPS gonna work lol
summer breach
deva is insane too like mage
chrome schooner
Yeah ... it's easier to face though
vocal surge
^
spring bough
Preso needs a nerf lol
vocal surge
Not sure what they did to Devoker but I have a lot of trouble finding a kick window with em
summer breach
I don’t think I will play too much Shuffle for now
spring bough
Ngl aoe blind is doing wonders. When the preso flies into the DPS and you get all three. Really disrupts a lot
And with trick aoe blinds 41 second. Get so many in matches
vocal surge
Outside of Sleep Walk, their beams go for so long without a kick window that you take so much damage it becomes almost irrelevant
And it's a matter of trying to live
Or toss even a DR'd CC
indigo hill
Shuffle doesn't even pop with an average of 30 min waiting time. Same for blitz.
potent pivot
Echoing Reprimand Rework:
You can read it as "shiv empowers your next (1/2) fini...
on the PTR right now, with Supercharger and Forced Induction talented, i'm getting 1 finisher with 2 cp from Supercharger and 1 finisher with 1 cp from Forced
indigo hill
Hope they will make some changes. Caster are way out of control now, especially frost mage.
wintry dew
on the PTR right now, with Supercharger and Forced Induction talented, i'm getti...
Im dumb, thats a good thing right?
atleast to proc DN
potent pivot
it's effectively exactly what i was saying/thought it was
wintry dew
fuck yea
vague comet
@potent pivot yo do u have a DR tracker above nameplates WA/Addon?
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> yo do u have a DR tracker above nameplates WA/Addon?
i don't use one atm, there's 1 WA that does it i can link you if you'd like to try it
surreal barn
Blitz is where it’s @
vague comet
ye
surreal barn
Shuffle felt like 💩 after blitzing a couple hours first 😆
potent pivot
<@629463378250956810> yo do u have a DR tracker above nameplates WA/Addon?
it's not the best, but that's all i know of
vague comet
i tried it last time, didnt work for em
warm tundra
yall gotta queue up sometime
spring bough
Just wait till later when more are on lol
Blitz was like 5 min ques last night
Solo around 10
vocal surge
I feel that lol
wintry dew
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
celest spade
is there a cheese OS build with echoing for sub again?
sweet swallow
skirm que on the other hand is wicked fast
people ain't ready for tanked
ranked*
heady swift
is there a cheese OS build with echoing for sub again?
Maybe 
wintry dew
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH
If i complain the queu is faster right?!
indigo hill
Are there any special profiles people use for Betterblizz frames/plates?
potent pivot
They come with preloaded profiles
indigo hill
So just install and im good to go?
potent pivot
So just install and im good to go?
You have to open the settings and click magnusz or nahj’s profile
That’s all
jolly sierra
If i complain the queu is faster right?!
yes
there are not sources as proof but still works
wintry dew
0CR bracket dead bracket
steep kiln
go afk and it'll pop
jolly sierra
"where are the healers"
potent pivot
All first time queues are long
Once you get mmr from the first game they get faster
jolly sierra
"im gotta go to the WC hope it doesnt pop"
return 10s later
potent pivot
From what I’ve been seeing anyway
worthy crag
post-first queue pops were usually taking 7~9 minutes for me
digital tinsel
Hey folks, currently I am assassination beginner. New in to spec in PvE and PVP. I tried play assa in our raid and got 84-98 parses on certain bosses with avg 90. Which isnt best but definitly not worst. But when i came to pvp And I have pvp gear I feel i deal no damage and press things is super hard for me. Like if want Blind someone... Press Ctrl+C is super awkward and makes me like 2s delay. Trinket on Alt+Q or Alt+E makes me feel i just rather click it. I am Lost with keybinding. Im playing on classic laptop keyboard (Asus rog Strix G16) And mouse Asus ROG Gladius Aimpoint II so I have 2 side buttons. I have like Middle sized hand. Can anybody help me which ability where should I put? For easy Acces for example my Deathmark Is S1... I used belluars spreadsheet for keybinding. Also coppying pikaboos keybind should not work fór me 😅 cuz they are rly weird. I would appreciate every help.
jolly sierra
robust niche
yeah i mean i got a couple pieces for this week but it says seasonal cap
you mean it will increase next week?
worthy crag
yeah
indigo hill
It has an increase next reset.
robust niche
oh cool, so I can hang on to this quest turn in that rewards 1k until next tuesday
indigo hill
Anyone got a good RTB weakaura?
worthy crag
Hey folks, currently I am assassination beginner. New in to spec in PvE and PVP....
Personally I don't use alt modifiers for any competition related keybinding but other people do, it just depends on your personal preference
potent pivot
oh cool, so I can hang on to this quest turn in that rewards 1k until next tuesd...
That’s a weekly quest so not sure about that
worthy crag
my alt keybinds are shit like shroud, distract, grand expedition yak
robust niche
That’s a weekly quest so not sure about that
yeah id rather just get the rep and be safe i guess, the tokens are easy to farm
digital tinsel
Personally I don't use alt modifiers for any competition related keybinding but ...
Yes everyone tells me about personal preference, but how do i know where should i put something.
Actualy is hardest part of game for me 😅
Alt3 prepot, i just rather click it 😅
worthy crag
if ur taking 2 seconds to press something that's a pretty good indicator you should place it somewhere else
potent pivot
yeah id rather just get the rep and be safe i guess, the tokens are easy to farm
Yeah I got the quest done in like 20min and was already capped from turning it in and the process of doing it, the tokens are very easily farmed wouldn’t worry about it
worthy crag
just go to a training dummy and practice all forms of rotation and make sure ur not gcd gapped with any button or burst cooldown
indigo hill
The rules i follow is. Keep the most used close, defenses a bit further away and least used i put on shift or whatever modifier.
robust solstice
im super struggling with Sub pvp keybinds now too. I had all attacks set on my 12 button mouse, but I can't click Dance + tea + badge + Cheap Shot all together
worthy crag
dont press dance and tea together
digital tinsel
For example i have struggle to press C2 for Tea So I click it when Is my Deathmark window
worthy crag
like some buttons can be spread apart over the span of a few globals instead of being pressed all at once just cuz they are off gcd
indigo hill
I got my blind on a mouseover macro bind to my mouse.
Same with shadowstep and hook.
worthy crag
I think C2 is a fairly easy button to access, maybe practice on a training dummy for half an hour at least
spring bough
I got my blind on a mouseover macro bind to my mouse.
Kick on mouse 🔥 too
indigo hill
Got that on F.
worthy crag
yeah gotta make sure ur actually using all non-mod keys from q~y, a~j, z~m etc
get those default reputation, achievement, guild windows etc to somewhere else
indigo hill
I use 1-5, f1-f5. r,t,y,f,g,h,v,` and 3 mouse buttons plus all those with shift.
worthy crag
im lucky to have flexible hands so i can go all the way to 8, j, m
spring bough
im lucky to have flexible hands so i can go all the way to 8, j, m
Hand size def plays a role on what keys fit best
indigo hill
I can reach 7/8 but doesnt feel as comfortable.
robust solstice
on druid side Snupy just made a video about keybinds...would love to see an R1 rogue do the same just to visualize it
worthy crag
imo keybind videos are kinda pointless.. like pikaboo presses shit like alt 6
idk how he does that
steep kiln
binds a side button on the naga to alt then just hits 6
worthy crag
its good to follow general rules though..
- stick to non-mod keys for as far as your hand can reach
- move on to the next easiest mod key (in most cases this is shift)
- move to the next easiest mod key (ctrl/alt)
repeat
oh and throw in some mouse buttons somewhere betwen 1 and 2
and get rid of default interface keys for keys in step #1, like B for default bags, C for character etc
outer sky
Idk what I'd do without my Logitech G600
steep kiln
😭
outer sky
My poison knife is bound to Shift+=
worthy crag
Also good to understand how bar swaps work with stealth and shadow dance so you are condensing as many keybinds as possible, but I assume this knowlege to be a given for people who are used to raiding
like you'd never really need shadowstrike and backstab to involve different keys
indigo hill
@stoic spruce You got a RTB weakaura?
worthy crag
unless u want to backstab focus to apply crippling poison which is pretty niche
wintry dew
From what I’ve been seeing anyway
FIRST SS - 5-1
potent pivot
FIRST SS - 5-1
spring bough
now insta pop RATED BLITZ
And now it begins. Get out a solo blitz pops. Get out a blitz and solo pops. Rinse repeat
plucky escarp
when I have this, I can't press cold blood?
wintry dew
1800 rating before the weekend ends
plucky escarp
i feel like Im misunderstanding something
wintry dew
hopefuly
spring bough
1800 rating before the weekend ends
Before the day* ez pz
indigo hill
when I have this, I can't press cold blood?
Did you talent into Cold Blood on the regular talent tree?
plucky escarp
yes lol
warm tundra
in solo shuffle on sub do you guys usually tend to pop all cooldowns at the start?
potent pivot
when I have this, I can't press cold blood?
You still press it but it only applies to envenoms
warm tundra
since vanish gives so much cdr i tend to just try to use anything i have before i vanish
spring bough
didnt pvp for 2 seasons
I believe. Blitz climbs pretty fast till around 1500 and faster ques
safe pelican
Of course frost mage is/ should be better than destro just mentioned it as the alternate spec for pvp I’ve matched against some great destro locks ngl seldom compared to aff since that’s the cruise control spec
Trickz understands 😴
I feel that my job just opened up night shifts and I’m going to pass not for me lol go day shift !
acoustic junco
does anyone know if the elemental focus lens does damage with the pvp bloodstones
jolly sierra
I feel that my job just opened up night shifts and I’m going to pass not for me ...
im joining in 30 more mins, lets see what happens today lol gl w the shift
terse bolt
why are people allowed to party up for pvp quests xdd
it feels like 1% of wm players go there solo
surreal barn
Makes them even more embarrassed when you kill one
steep kiln
0-4 blitz today 
spring bough
0-4 blitz today <:besad:507266809431326729>
I feel yah on that one. Battzii 1-5d me twice last night. Had to climb back up. Got my rating back then qued into him again 🤦♂️
vocal surge
why are people allowed to party up for pvp quests xdd
Talking about pvp world quests?
warm tundra
man is there a secret to not be permanently cc'd and slowed as sub rogue when trying to play the game
at least on assa i can be at peace somewhat as long as my dots are up
steep kiln
I feel yah on that one. Battzii 1-5d me twice last night. Had to climb back up. ...
right after my solo shuffle popped and 1 of the healers went afk then abandoned after 4 games
warm tundra
its mages
spring bough
man is there a secret to not be permanently cc'd and slowed as sub rogue when tr...
Mages. Nope. Not unrooting unless stealth or step lol
steep kiln
warm tundra
and other rogues
spring bough
Mages are literal CC gods
warm tundra
Mages. Nope. Not unrooting unless stealth or step lol
its genuinely insane i feel like even outside of hard cc im walking at 20% of my actual speed
worthy crag
are they running shimmer? then just use step for stuns and dont even bother chasing them
if they are running blink just hit something else
spring bough
Bro can hit you with a 6 second nova. Then another frost ability is like 4 seconds of ice
warm tundra
i need to pop vanish just to enter the melee range taht rogue had pre-TWW
worthy crag
id expect a nerf bat coming to frost mages soon
tawdry lodge
mages literally root me and dps me but the roots wont break
worthy crag
it is week 1 after all
yeah same for fears tbh
fury blows like 4 globals in intimidating shout
doesnt break
tawdry lodge
hate early expansion ccs that dont break
worthy crag
no they just upped the damage threshold for those to break to dmg
for like 0 reason
like in df season 3
tawdry lodge
with loss of acrobatic strikes and all that root shit
spring bough
They need to revert the root and fear CC damage inc that they did
Makes it impossible for it to be broken
tawdry lodge
no they just upped the damage threshold for those to break to dmg
i think the ccs have a flat value
before they break
late expansion they break easier
warm tundra
generally speaking the few SS games ive done
ive been considerably lower than all the other 3 players
im new to rogue but ive never performed this poorly in pvp in my life
worthy crag
if ur playing sub your dmg on the meter literally means nothing
spring bough
Some mages are amazing at it and I can’t move. Other frost mages? I’m running all over. Skill disparity is wild 😂
warm tundra
if ur playing sub your dmg on the meter literally means nothing
i know what youre getting at but a decent sub should still not be THAT much lower
worthy crag
it only really just means they had more uptime on rupture which is just pad for the most part
spring bough
i know what youre getting at but a decent sub should still not be THAT much lowe...
This sub that killed me all last night overall was probably 50 mill less in damage than me
And he killed people every duel window
warm tundra
how do you know if its a good time to pop duel
usually i pop it very early alongside a defensive in order to dodge cc
spring bough
Couldn’t tell you. This dude dueled me at like 80-90% and I was dead on the third cheap shot as it ended
I had cloak ready but no trinket. Slammed the key but couldn’t get it off
spring bough
usually i pop it very early alongside a defensive in order to dodge cc
This guy was saving it for trinks down and defensives down
warm tundra
think my main concern rn on sub is that im not really feeling like im getting used to it whatsoever
mainly i pop cooldowns and pray my streak of kidney>evis/tehnique
ends up doing something
steep kiln
games feel a bit chaotic atm. especially with all the pet classes having 5+ pets it seems like
alpine tinsel
wym, you don''t like fighting ai?
warm tundra
games feel a bit chaotic atm. especially with all the pet classes having 5+ pets...
all the plater presets also seem to love making those healthbars big and chunky
how important is rupture/snd uptime on sub?
steep kiln
dk/ww literal army coming for your booty
indigo hill
dk/ww literal army coming for your booty
Should add a Bm and demo lock.
steep kiln
haven't ran into many demos yet. but ya seems like half the classes have a lil army with them now
halcyon timber
man is there a secret to not be permanently cc'd and slowed as sub rogue when tr...
Nope just have to fight real patiently and try not to lose your cool.
halcyon timber
haven't ran into many demos yet. but ya seems like half the classes have a lil a...
Great feeling having to tab through totems and 40 billion pets to kill a totem
spring bough
I’ve no lifed probably 200 rounds and seen like two demo locks. Everyone else is affliction. And idek what the other spec is called but I haven’t seen that
halcyon timber
Affliction is filthy for sure
muted abyss
man, these queue times made me cancel my sub
hexed pewter
do you ever reset with stealth as assassination? i feel it's impossible to exit combat mode with all the bleeds
steep kiln
last time i was really pvping destro locks raining down those chaos bolts on everyone big dam. haven't seen any yet
halcyon timber
Unga bunga is now on warlock
Saw one out bunga a warrior and kill him
Saw a nasty destruction beating the pee out of people. Bolts def hit hard just not some mop meme horseshit where those cultists thought that was good
indigo hill
The large amount of pets are annoying. Outlaw should get pet. Just summon a pirate ship with a bunch of ghost pirates jumping off to attack the enemy.
spring bough
The large amount of pets are annoying. Outlaw should get pet. Just summon a pira...
Cannonball barrage 2025 making a comeback
worthy crag
jesus christ I went 1-5 on my alt LOL
spring bough
What outlaw could really use? Some type of sudden demise mechanic. “Walk the plank” sounds like a good name for it
Fatality type animation 😂
forest compass
guyys how do i get those 9 herdrasil for crafting?
warm tundra
outlaw could use roll the bones not being on gcd
potent pivot
guyys how do i get those 9 herdrasil for crafting?
win some games and u get the quest
forest compass
in rated arena?
potent pivot
any
spring bough
outlaw could use roll the bones not being on gcd
I always thought it would be cool if they made it a talent and you got to choose like 2 or 3 buffs and they’d be permanent lol
wintry dew
2nd shuffle - Draw. 6-0 healer
warm tundra
does it make sense to have a macro that casts both shadowstrike and backstab in this order?
so i can press 1 button to click the one with highest priority
aka shadowstrike everytime i can
any reason i shouldnt do this?
potent pivot
2nd shuffle - Draw. 6-0 healer
you're gonna see a lot of that
wintry dew
you're gonna see a lot of that
Disc priest completly SMOKED by a holy paladin
potent pivot
Disc priest completly SMOKED by a holy paladin
shoulda been opposite lmao
healers are rly imbalanced rn
halcyon timber
I killed an evoker the same time i died to a warlock shadowbolt but still lost
Makes sense
pliant spoke
Are we going for 4 piece this season or just 2 piece?
potent pivot
Are we going for 4 piece this season or just 2 piece?
assa/sub looking like 4p atm
tawny quest
Can anyone confirm the ptr change to coup de grace? Are you able to use other abilities now?
potent pivot
Not sure all the changes are even implemented yet but can check in a bit
candid tide
godsake man
how many times does my focus frame have to dissapear during arena
fk it no excuses...
spring bough
2nd shuffle - Draw. 6-0 healer
All day long lol
stoic spruce
<@530563212093947914> You got a RTB weakaura?
Just the normal one from wagio. And I have LSUI which is a ui addon that comes with its own aura tracking.
stoic spruce
The aura to tell me what I roll and LSUI to keep track
wintry dew
devo / udh / MM
spring bough
1-5
I had two or three of those last night lol. Was like 1938 then 1798 and back up to 1845 🤦♂️
wintry dew
aaaaaaaaaah
candid tide
I had two or three of those last night lol. Was like 1938 then 1798 and back up ...
solo?
steep kiln
anyone know how to make this whaz shiv macro that looks like old TB and shows charges. searching high and low for the TB icon in the macro list but it's a struggle
potent pivot
Can anyone confirm the ptr change to coup de grace? Are you able to use other ab...
appears to be working as normal
candid tide
try ur hardest fk lol
potent pivot
anyone know how to make this whaz shiv macro that looks like old TB and shows ch...
you can pick any icon for macros
spring bough
Tryna get this grand marshal mog set for the rogue get an OG look for games
steep kiln
I'm looking through them but can't find TB D:
potent pivot
it'll probably take a while to find it lol
drowsy dagger
well assa dmg output is real nice tbh
steep kiln
thought #showtooltip would work but maybe since TB isn't in the game anymore not sure
stoic spruce
WtB outlaw stonks
steep kiln
found it 🙌
stoic spruce
Outlaw stonks?? Where???
indigo hill
Gratz. I cant even get in with these hour long queus. 😂
Noticed the number Outlaw atm for solo doesnt use crackshot and plays trickster.
novel karma
a greenskins build huh
indigo hill
Yup
novel karma
that's interesting
indigo hill
Btw does anyone use veil of midnight?
drowsy dagger
another one
languid hollow
When playing deathstalker sub, do you still use secret tech?
potent pivot
yes
spring bough
WtB outlaw stonks
It’s called trickster
crimson torrent
why some pve players will pvp soon ?
plucky escarp
Getting kited all game on assa is killing my soul
potent pivot
i see r1 rogs running radiant of depth
only for outlaw - IF that
candid tide
only for outlaw - IF that
yeah it might be outlaw idd
potent pivot
a lot of pvpers just buy the bis pve stuff
for example ascension embellishment, depths enchant etc
for some classes ascension is good, if they rarely drop combat in arena
indigo hill
You guys think its a good idea if we could queu with a char and play an alt in the mean time till the queu pops?
indigo hill
Your solutions are of this planet. 😂
potent pivot
I'm getting my ass kicked a lil bit <@629463378250956810>
it do be like that
indigo hill
I know but i meant to have more of a 1 account option.
potent pivot
ngl i don't see them ever doing it
stoic spruce
Gahhh
I start the ss queue
Wait 2 minutes
And then lose interest
And then I start the queue again
safe pelican
Lmaooooo sounds like me bro
I queue it , look at what the estimated time is before i get a pop is it’s over 10-7 mins i lose focus 😂
Time to gear this MM Hunter so i can press one button for 2M+ dmg
rare coyote
I waited 21 minutes for solo shuffle arena and a teammate just left 😮
orchid plinth
I waited for 34, relogged and got insta pop.
Then some 9 minutes queues. and 31 SECONDS ONE!
candid tide
well im capped 1600 cq atleast
proud folio
uhhhh bros??
potent pivot
uhhhh bros??
pve..
potent pivot
........yes
proud folio
how
plucky escarp
Yeah its in the blue post
potent pivot
what do you mean how
plucky escarp
It says it stays the same as it is in PvP
potent pivot
they literally stated it
indigo hill
Can crafter gear be turned into tier?
proud folio
rip wowhead didn't copy that part
potent pivot
rip wowhead didn't copy that part
they almost never do on the raw spell data posts
and people always run around screenshotting CC abilities from them for some reason
instead of looking at the actual blizzard post 
candid tide
need to press tea and symbols more often
losing games with enemy at 10% all the time because of this
drowsy dagger
do i turn the 639 shoulders into tier item?
potent pivot
do i turn the 639 shoulders into tier item?
yeah
potent pivot
and whats the second piece?
You get a free tier piece token for hitting 1600
And you buy Legs
This is all listed in the gear faq
Linked in the pins
drowsy dagger
loveya thanks
potent pivot
drowsy dagger
do i have to get to 1600 rating?
or its just earn 1600 conquest
i dont feel that good to be 1600 lol
potent pivot
do i have to get to 1600 rating?
Rating
That’s the only way to get 2p this week because we only have 1 Catalyst charge
Only way to know is to try
Just gotta practice until you get comfortable and then q rated
candid tide
just q rated right away fk it
learn it the hard way
if u can consistently get draws or 4/3 wins
ur making good progress
warm tundra
is SS safe to go into with just aspirant gear and nothing else?
potent pivot
is SS safe to go into with just aspirant gear and nothing else?
Yeah I mean everyone has to start at the same point
hybrid sapphire
I was gone for a year. did they nerf stealth? Im constantly being seen even through vanish
warm tundra
but man it feels so terrible
think in last 7 matches no kill ive gotten had me substantially as the reason
potent pivot
I was gone for a year. did they nerf stealth? Im constantly being seen even thro...
vanish is only 1.5s of guaranteed stealth now
hybrid sapphire
but this feels like im beign seen immediately tbh
potent pivot
so if you have dots on you/are caught back into combat it feels worse than before
hybrid sapphire
hybrid sapphire
next im in a bg ill check
potent pivot
in pvp it's halved
hybrid sapphire
im in wm
hybrid sapphire
well yeah im determining that now
potent pivot
hybrid sapphire
makes sense ty
potent pivot
there's some bugs pulling us out of stealth in BGs
i think most have been fixed but i think there's still 1 or 2
potent pivot
week 1 queues can be brutal bro
wintry dew
healer diff is also huge
warm tundra
ok im actually getting the hang of subtlety kinda
warm tundra
unless i got shadow dance and another buff active
i should instead chill and CC people
and only focus on damage within windows
warm tundra
yep
without shadow dance + trinket + tea/symbols
i really should just keep up dots and be annoiying instead
potent pivot
whaazz cookin' 3s boys
getting fried you mean 
warm tundra
you can send dance only goes
also do you know why is sepsis recommended?
looking at it i dont see 1 extra shadow move and sepsis damage as that impressive
potent pivot
also do you know why is sepsis recommended?
because it's good
sick wasp
they are discussing why assa might be better for 3s
there are so points for assa there
potent pivot
ye he seems to agree that assa into casters feels ass
sick wasp
ye he seems to agree that assa into casters feels ass
i feel like sub has it better with step/dance
feels so good to cheap cheap cheap
lime oar
Just had a frost mage raging so hard in solo shuffle
Wouldn’t shut up about 2.4xp yet I killed him in duel twice and overall damage for the whole match was the same as mine
orchid plinth
Vanish shadowstrike and vanish resetting Step CD helps a lot I guess compares to assa
sick wasp
Wouldn’t shut up about 2.4xp yet I killed him in duel twice and overall damage f...
imagine caring about toxic ppl bro
do ur thing and farm him
warm tundra
besides near-kill situations do we ever use secret tech without shadow blades?
potent pivot
tuning post
@outer sky
outlaw nerfs
fuck
sub reverb nerfed
saw that coming from a mile away
aff nerfs
nothing for mage
potent pivot
DK horse nerfed by 50% in pvp
sick wasp
stupid godclass
sick wasp
yeah all those justified
potent pivot
SP all dmg +6% is a little sus
sick wasp
outlaw tune down is kinda sus ngl
they buff tier set
make the spec more mechanical
potent pivot
with the tier set buffs outlaw def runs tier now i'm pretty sure
lime oar
do ur thing and farm him
True
topaz bobcat
outlow worst melee in rankings
i knew u guys were trolling me telling me it was great
Fury at the top and UH DK
warm tundra
its theoretically great
warm tundra
then why did it just get nerfed
why did mage not get nerfed
i wouldnt trust blizzard's tier list
more than kaidgames2
topaz bobcat
fury? imagine how OP it would be without those nerfs.
prolly another round of nerfs now
potent pivot
why did mage not get nerfed
for the same reason MM hunter and shaman weren't nerfed
they are crybabies
topaz bobcat
in PVE all 3 rogue specs seem fine-ish just outlaw pvp needs help
or maybe saolo shuffle thing?
topaz bobcat
potent pivot
why do i care about that
at all
if you actually look at that data this early in the season i don't even know what to say to you
topaz bobcat
it has one of the weaker set bonuses in pvp too right?
potent pivot
it doesn't matter
topaz bobcat
but they are nerfing set bonuses in general next big patch
potent pivot
outlaw rn is disgusting
topaz bobcat
What is it good at?
potent pivot
but they are nerfing set bonuses in general next big patch
what are you even on about
topaz bobcat
maybe rogues just all went sub and assa
potent pivot
exactly, because 2 specs sharing gear > 1 spec
topaz bobcat
what are you even on about
lots of set bonuses are lowered rn next patch, some moved to base
topaz bobcat
exactly, because 2 specs sharing gear > 1 spec
we will test this theory over the next few weeks
potent pivot
multiple rogues talking about playing outlaw in AWC because of how disgusting it is
topaz bobcat
multiple rogues talking about playing outlaw in AWC because of how disgusting it...
is this for like pro coordinated play or is it disgusting for 1500-2400 players too?
potent pivot
both
dull bridge
hahahahaha fury gets a slap on the wrist while outlaw gets blanket nerfs
hahahahahaha
potent pivot
hahahahaha fury gets a slap on the wrist while outlaw gets blanket nerfs
the tier was also buffed
this compensates the nerfs a bit
outlaw's still gonna crank
topaz bobcat
I find sub waaaay better maybe I don't know how to play
potent pivot
sounds about right
topaz bobcat
topaz bobcat
sounds about right
is there a way to get conquest swords u think or stuck with daggers next week?
dull bridge
frost mage also untouched
potent pivot
did you pick up the quest in dagger spec?
if so, kinda stuck with it
if you abandon you lose your progress
dull bridge
feral also buffed for some reason
topaz bobcat
maybe pvp tuning pass is later
Rider of the Apocalypse: Horsemen’s Aid effectiveness reduced by 50% in PvP combat.
big numbers again lol were they hitting really hard?
potent pivot
big numbers again lol were they hitting really hard?
that has literally zero to do with dmg
topaz bobcat
yea u are right except for the defile red thing which isn't much
guess the chains of ice from one gets duration halved
potent pivot
guess the chains of ice from one gets duration halved
horseman's aid is just the AMS they cast on the DK
topaz bobcat
ah I see
chrome schooner
It's wild they didn't touch healers
topaz bobcat
i think pres evoker got 20% hit to the biggest heal
topaz bobcat
Living Flame healing reduced by 20% in PvP combat.
I would guess also nerfs the hero replacement version if not then lol
chronoflame is called I think
quaint cedar
Was outlaw actually good in pve? I thought it was still mid tier
Why are we getting nerfed 😦
warm tundra
ok im getting the hang of this shit
outer sky
https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/class-tuning-incoming-september-17...
FUCK
rip outlaw
although maybe 4 set will be good now
at least nothing changed for assass
vocal surge
Was outlaw actually good in pve? I thought it was still mid tier
Outlaw's #2 overall in PvE
But the set bonus is complete trash
You only grab set pieces for their secondary stats, not set bonuses
outer sky
WTF they buffed devoker damage!?!?!?
vocal surge
^
halcyon timber
“Let them fight” godzilla meme b/t mage and evoker
vocal surge
If you're wondering how much the set bonus contributes in PvE content, the 2p is only doing .66% of my damage profile
safe pelican
They nerfed devoker wym
quaint cedar
The 10 outlaws playing pvp will probably go down to 5 now lol
quaint cedar
Isn't the tier set still going to be ass? I don't think it's being buffed by that much
vocal surge
Yeah
Its still gonna be bad
You're trying to fish out set procs on the same rate as trying to Sinister Strike
quaint cedar
Really weird that we got nerfed with seemingly compensation buffs that really do not compensate for the nerfs at all...
vocal surge
What was the damage bonus again...
The War Within Season 1 2-set bonus now grants listed abilities a 35% chance to deal 30% increased damage as Shadow (was 20% chance, 15% damage)
The War Within Season 1 4-set bonus for Between the Eyes increased to 15% damage per stack, up to 4 stacks (was 6%, 3 stacks)
quaint cedar
+15%?
quaint cedar
yaaaay
Which part is nerfed in pvp? Damage I assume?
So is that only 20k extra damage in pvp, or were you using pvp values?
quaint cedar
vocal surge
Yeah...
It's effectively Triple Threat but better
if you consider Triple Threat good
the 4p would be nice
if 2p procs fairly often
quaint cedar
I know outlaw is lots of little hits so I never expect big numbers, but I can't see it being very impactful
quaint cedar
Right that's what I'm saying lol
going to have 20k extra damage when it procs, awesome
quaint cedar
Like this is so stupid, this nerfs us more in pvp than pve
I fucking hate set bonuses so much
vocal surge
And it hits Trickster harder than Fatebound
quaint cedar
I still think outlaw will be fine regardless but it's just annoying
We ALWAYS get nerfed no matter what
halcyon timber
What's the purpose of getting nerfed across the board
Have to make room for devoker buffs
quaint cedar
Never allowed to have fun ever
vocal surge
Honestly, -4% across the board is really bad
quaint cedar
Eh outlaw is already blasting though
vocal surge
As Outlaw, that 4% accumulates really fast
quaint cedar
I have 0 enchants and am crushing people
vocal surge
because we dont have a Mortal Strike
We got at best a nuisance for a healing reduction
quaint cedar
huh? our MS is the same as most dps
topaz bobcat
vocal surge
We're losing ~1,173k damage
outer sky
I cant tell if aff lock got buffed or nerfed
vocal surge
for ~450k damage from 2p
outer sky
outlaw tier looks like its good now
vocal surge
Its trash
outer sky
even still?
vocal surge
Yeah
The set bonuses for 2p and 4p are nerfed by 50%
That screenshot I sent is 2p's damage rn in PvP
you can almost x4 it's damage for the damage it'll deal with the buff
But you're losing x2.5 the damage gained from 2p alone
and we're excluding Dispatch getting hit by -10% damage btw
and -8% on auto attack
If they remove the pvp modifier, I'd see it as a +
but for now, in PvP, its a huge L for us
outer sky
poor WW monks also got nerfed
vocal surge
Aye
worthy crag
oh thank god
outer sky
😦
halcyon timber
Fk em
spring bough
It’s some bullshit
quaint cedar
At least some other stuff got nerfed too
spring bough
Nerfed for a set that sucks ass
safe pelican
They needed a lil nerfy nerf tbh but their fun was short lived
spring bough
Fk them w the tier adjusting BS
safe pelican
Blizz just can’t balance a spec lol it’s either under performing or over
spring bough
“This class +5% overall with a 15% tier nerf” and for rogue “fuck them”
vocal surge
Btw
Unholy DK's had their "nerf" with tier set
+all damage for a stat they dont want
quaint cedar
Blizzard despises outlaw
vocal surge
Outlaw's #2 in Raiding
safe pelican
Cause we do nothing outside of burst windows fr fr
quaint cedar
They've made it very clear over the course of DF
worthy crag
sub is about to get hit by a truck in november, dw
topaz bobcat
enh got big buff
safe pelican
Yea November is gunna be terrible let’s not talk about November
topaz bobcat
and fire mage but still needs more
austere thorn
How did sub not get hit
We losing vanish CDR and tea next patch and the replacement is 2 more charges of symbols of death
spring bough
10% to disintegrate when it hits for millions 😂
topaz bobcat
10% to disintegrate when it hits for millions 😂
they nerfed set too nov
worthy crag
better start practicing alt class
safe pelican
Yea sub is cooooooked in Nov lol if they leave MM alone I’ll push that until we get buffed
spring bough
Overall for outlaw what 3-4% decrease or is it more?
vocal surge
10% to disintegrate when it hits for millions 😂
Also uninterruptible for what looks like 30s
spring bough
Also uninterruptible for what looks like 30s
Looks like overall we got 2% nerf. Whatever tbh
vocal surge
its -4% to all ability damage, -10% dispatch damage, and -8% Auto Attack Damage
safe pelican
Maybe they will revise the patch notes for Nov before they go live let us pray
spring bough
Guy said overall 2% loss
So that’s nothing
Whatever lol
Still doing million plus KS
1.4 mill turns to 1.372. Not noticeable lol
worthy crag
werent people dooming hard pre-expac about how outlaw has no way around high armor targets?
cuz they are all physical dmg
spring bough
I got no parry so I’m chilling lol
Guess this better than it going on for weeks and then really whacking us lol
vocal surge
Yeee
quaint cedar
Looks like overall we got 2% nerf. Whatever tbh
that accounts for all nerfs combined?
spring bough
that accounts for all nerfs combined?
Yeah that’s the pin he’s got on the outlaw channel
quaint cedar
Huh how does that work. One of the nerfs alone is a 4% all ability nerf
spring bough
Huh how does that work. One of the nerfs alone is a 4% all ability nerf
No idea I just don’t question guys theory craft lol
quaint cedar
lol fair enough
spring bough
Probably accounts for the tier in there
spring bough
Since its 2% per set bonus now instead of like 1% overall for the set
quaint cedar
We'll feel it a bit more in pvp since we don't really get the compensation the same way they did
spring bough
And if we solely pvping we won’t get four set till 10/8 and prob still won’t even be worth in pvp
quaint cedar
Yeah I'm thinking 2 set will be worth picking up but definitely still think 4 set isn't worth
BTW Sinnen whatever happened with the Depths enchant? Stealth nerfed in pvp or no?
spring bough
I went shoulders / chest for tier rn. Contemplating turning helm and getting gloves but would need way more verse if I did that lol
Idk depths did my top overall dmg in a couple lobbies last night. Quick ones. Others was like 3-8 on my overall dmg
spring bough
Yeah it varies game to game
quaint cedar
Still worth getting you think?
spring bough
Doing over 5% overall of my damage but idk how much I’m giving up from losing the agi on radiant
spring bough
Still worth getting you think?
This was last night
dull bridge
This was last night
are you playing crackshot here
quaint cedar
Doing over 5% overall of my damage but idk how much I’m giving up from losing th...
fuck it I'll send it then. I have 2 outlaw rogues, so I'll try it on the alt rogue first. It's cheaper than radiant right now anyways
spring bough
are you playing crackshot here
Yeah the build in the pins pretty much but with trickster
I did drop heavy hitter for verse cause of gear for now but will prob change it around in a couple weeks w more gear
halcyon timber
Demo slowly creeping up too eh
inland thorn
Yeah the build in the pins pretty much but with trickster
What do your stats look like
spring bough
I change them pretty frequently lol. But 20.5 crit 25 haste in stealth 27 verse and 17 mastery
inland thorn
I change them pretty frequently lol. But 20.5 crit 25 haste in stealth 27 verse ...
How much vers are you aiming for before you change your talent back to hard hitter?
halcyon timber
UA increased by 25% lord have mercy on healers that dispel late
halcyon timber
Was a shift from bolt to more dots slightly ig
But that UA backlash will probably round house af
worthy crag
coil->fear insta dots and by the time the fear breaks im 45%
spring bough
How much vers are you aiming for before you change your talent back to hard hit...
Not sure. I keep playing with and without the talent so prob around 24-25% without it
halcyon timber
Dunno about that destro buffing ha
Mfs can already womp if left alone for too long
dull bridge
dunno about no frost mage nerfs
halcyon timber
Yeh
dull bridge
god forbid if it's not a hogwarts patch
halcyon timber
Harry P and the boys zip zappin
Fire and demo slowly creeping up. Gotta watch those jokers more often
Shadow priest too
spring bough
I’m pretty excited to get updated tier two even tho it looks ehhh lol
dull bridge
id be excited about the tier buffs if they werent nerfed in pvp
mint hawk
is there a way to turn off plater when you load into pvp
spring bough
First lobby of the day. We cleaved off holy paladin. Dead in 45 seconds lol
Second round healer goes down again 😂
surreal barn
Fellow rogues - stray cat outside I feed is limping pretty bad - how to tell what’s up
drowsy dagger
Why sub got nerfed? Where is the patchnotes i only can see outlaw nerfs
outer sky
Why sub got nerfed? Where is the patchnotes i only can see outlaw nerfs
They nerfed echoing reprimand so you can't do cheesey one shots with it
Every season sub seems to have a cheesy one shot
And then they nerf it
drowsy dagger
Luckly i just started playing assa in pvp
Where can i see the nerf tho? Cant find it
outer sky
Maybe they should just redesign the spec so it's not so susceptible to cheesy one shots
drowsy dagger
Oh i see it nvm
Im blind
I didnt even used er in pvp with sub
Altough im using it with assa
spring bough
Fellow rogues - stray cat outside I feed is limping pretty bad - how to tell wha...
Get that kitty a carrier and take them to the vet if you need to
dull bridge
Maybe they should just redesign the spec so it's not so susceptible to cheesy on...
are you 2100 yet
outer sky
is it worth to get 4pc or just 2pc and more mastery/vers
4 set for sure for sub
olive minnow
you're missing out on like 1200 mastery and like 700 vers or something
outer sky
Yeah but sub's 2 set isn't nerfed in pvp
olive minnow
i know, that's like 2-3 evis / min tho
which it affects
might be a few more mhm due to cdr
outer sky
The general consensus is to play 4 set as sub
jaunty spear
guys how does the honor xfer work? i open my Currency tab, click on the char i want to withdraw from and then? when i confirm it, it just closes the tab and nun happens
spring bough
Can you report healers who last round pop all CDs before round starts
Just cause they mad at this warrior 🤦♂️
wintry dew
UDK feels unfair to play against
guy legit killed the entire team on the opener
6-0
warm tundra
are people still buying the pvp recipes?
if yes whats a fast sell and decent price on AH?
halcyon timber
Fellow rogues - stray cat outside I feed is limping pretty bad - how to tell wha...
Any scrapes/ open wounds / labored breathing/ any odd discolorations around the eyes or pus? Punctures / odd movements bio mechanically along with respiratory signs?
surreal barn
Nope cat is happy af
halcyon timber
Sounds fine, just continue to monitor them.
halcyon timber
Happy little meatloaf
wintry dew
Did you just adopt a cat?
halcyon timber
My little boy heh
Just keep an eye on their behavior and try to look for dehydration and in case of possible infection keep that kitty away from other animals until a vet visit is made
quaint cedar
My kitties - brother and sister from the same litter
halcyon timber
I like how the one in front is criss cross apple sauce
quaint cedar
I also love the crossed paws
His sister on the left does that sometimes and it's so cute
halcyon timber
Aw heh i dig
Just got done w hw and fed the little guy. Fookin finals are here and grades are rough. 6 exams this week. Unfavorable outcomes lately and ive been staying up real dang late studying.
quaint cedar
Damn I hope those next exams go better for you
School sucks
So freaking stressful
halcyon timber
Yeah, real lame lately. Gotta cook and then chill out . Open lab tomorrow so might go.
spring kiln
Hey random question how are people getting the Bloody Token items past cap? Top sub rogue has 4 of them but the tokens required to get those would go well over season max currently?
lusty tiger
they dont have 4 of them
quaint cedar
idk of anything but if there is a way it sounds like an exploit
lusty tiger
game are bogged
tame prawn
HEY YALL im new to the group is there a macro section?
graceful flax
Man im always pumped to play some pvp, but then i queue up for solo shuffle or BG Blitz and 20+ minutes =/
clever blaze
how's outlaw in solo shuffle?
orchid temple
is this still the play ppl?
1.6 token - LEGS
Conq - SHOULDERS + HELM (+primary) OR Crit TRINKET (more burst)
Crafting (Heraldries) - DAGGER (vers/mast) with first 5 free heraldries + BOOTS, will need to buy 1 conq heraldry [Can use tier 1 mats, higher is useless for pvp]
Bloody Tokens - WAIST + WRIST OR CAPE
WPvP dagger for offhand until week 3
spring bough
Devo is so insane. This dude cleaved every lobby down. 6-0 and he was like 1930 lmaooooo
100 mil over the next guy 😂
hidden moth
Man im always pumped to play some pvp, but then i queue up for solo shuffle or B...
Need a healer friend for duo que
steep kiln
hidden moth
Also why I love healing shuffle because when I hit the point of, okay this is a far l and dps start shit talking, it’s just satisfying knowing they shall go into another 20 minute que
steep kiln
it's in the thread
spring bough
Blitz Que going off avg 2-3 min tonight 😂
jolly sierra
whoa look
outer sky
is sub the way for pvp?
as sub you basically have to be able to carry your whole team to 2400 because only then will you find players that can play around your DRs
lime oar
Fellow rogues - stray cat outside I feed is limping pretty bad - how to tell wha...
Coming to a retail WoW rogue pvp forum for stray animal advice is based
outer sky
Hey Kingsbane wasnt complete trash for once
dreamy marten
i coppied the pvp talent and idk it doesnt feel great, feels very damp heavy with little burst but maybe im still adjusting to the talents
outer sky
i coppied the pvp talent and idk it doesnt feel great, feels very damp heavy wit...
thats exactly what it is
lime oar
i coppied the pvp talent and idk it doesnt feel great, feels very damp heavy wit...
Don’t forget rupture everything
dreamy marten
thats exactly what it is
is there a build for more burst
cause my games arent long enough for this build to be effective
outer sky
is there a build for more burst <:kekw:610125925413289985>
no the spec doesnt have any burst
Play sub if thats what youre looking for