pvp

[outer sky]

and the stats dont stack if you run 2

so I predict assa and sub will run 1 of those and 1 vers embellishment

[potent pivot]

which don't stack

the Linings or the Grip

[outer sky]

the grip

the linings stack

[potent pivot]

i'm kinda expecting Authority of the Depths to catch a nerf

if it doesn't i'd be surprised

[chrome schooner]

I've seen people do crazy healing with authority of air as well

[potent pivot]

Depths is somewhat consistently Outlaw's top damage

[outer sky]

it got a buff since beta so I doubt it

I can't figure out why it's so good for outlaw/WW/Fury but not so good for assa. Like, it's fixed RPPM.

[potent pivot]

it's very rare you see them leave something that strong alone

even pve trinkets for example, which use an actual gear slot, get nerfed for doing that much damage

and this is just an enchant

[outer sky]

Do you know why it's power varies by spec?

I know it does but I cant come up with a good reason why

fixed RPPM should equalize it

[potent pivot]

it's probably based on abilties being casted, not damage instances

i can find out for sure

[outer sky]

if you could, please

I told y'all it would be insane for outlaw

[potent pivot]

yeah i always figured it would be since you showed me breakdowns from beta

it's just too strong imo for them to leave alone

just based on the past anyway

[outer sky]

they saw the results on beta and chose to buff it

it is kind of odd though

maybe itll catch a pvp nerf?

the ring from last season

bullion ring

DH was using

got a 50% pvp nerf

and that was what like 5% of their damage?

[potent pivot]

most pve stuff gets nerfed in pvp

[outer sky]

Now youve got me questioning whether or not I should buy it >.<

[potent pivot]

they do not want pvpers to feel like they are required to pve

personally i would not recommend buying it rn with prices anyway

[outer sky]

well short of acquiring the recipe, this enchant requires no pve

[outer sky]

I have 3.5m gold

[potent pivot]

even acquiring the recipe doesn't tbh

but still, an enchant doing more than all of your abilities is something i doubt they'll overlook

[chrome schooner]

We have free weapons in 3 resets

Just wait and buy enchants then

Nothing serious happens the first 2 weeks

[outer sky]

do we get to pick the stats on these weapons?

[potent pivot]

yeah from what i've heard we won't be able to buy/craft conq weapons until then anyway

but maybe we'll be able to craft 626 and then recraft them week 3

if we're sure the enchant would carry over when recrafting

[outer sky]

I dont see why it wouldnt

[potent pivot]

there's been no info regarding that but i'm doubtful

my assumption is it will be the same stats as usual conquest weapon choices

they will probably be on the conquest vendor tomorrow

and just Red until you get the achievement

[outer sky]

if not will be evntually be able to craft ones with the stats we want?

[potent pivot]

yeah i'm pretty positive of that

the thing right now

is you don't want to waste conquest on extra weapons

like crafting 626 right now is probably fine

but

you're going to use the weapons from the quest over them

you won't want to craft more weapons until you're fully geared most likely

the difference of going from Crit weapons to Mastery just does not outweigh the ilvl from more pieces of gear

[outer sky]

yeah from the agi

and more importantly

the weapon dps

[potent pivot]

yeah

[outer sky]

esp main hand

[potent pivot]

it's sorta unfortunate, but everyone will be in the same boat

if we don't get to pick the stats no one else does either

people have been trying to buy honor already

"buying 7500 honor 25k"

[outer sky]

wait what

how

[potent pivot]

they want the recipes from the vendor lmao

[outer sky]

how do you buy and sell honor

[potent pivot]

person with honor goes to vendor, purchases recipe

person with recipe sells it to someone for 25k

[outer sky]

how does that get them honor

[potent pivot]

they just say honor

because no one is going to randomly know the name of any of the honor gear recipes

or know/realize they can even be traded

they're not buying the honor to have it

it's just like the Vicious Bloodstones

you can effectively sell 2500 honor for ~8k or however much they are at the time

[outer sky]

hell yeah I'll sell the shit out of that

[potent pivot]

problem is everyone needs their honor for sockets

so not many people are selling any of it

9k gold for bloodstones atm

so ~160k gold for full sockets

[outer sky]

are sockets timegated at all?

[potent pivot]

nope

the only timegate on them

is how fast you can earn the honor

i'm gonna be real though

it's not worth losing your head over grinding them

full sockets even in pve is barely a 2% gain last time i checked

[outer sky]

well now that I know theyre sellable

I'll just buy them all tomorrow

and socket my gear as i craft it

[potent pivot]

only the Vicious Bloodstones are tradable

the actual socket Setting that costs 9750 honor are not

[outer sky]

i thought they were 15k honor

and how did you say full sockets are 160k then?

[potent pivot]

the Bloodstones are 2500 honor and you need 2 per Setting

each Setting is 9750 honor

[potent pivot]

160k for the 18 Bloodstones required to buy 9 Settings

9 Settings cost 87,750 honor

18 Bloodstones is 45k honor

[outer sky]

you buy the sockets with bloodstones?

not straight honor?

[potent pivot]

so you can spend 160k gold to save yourself from grinding an extra 45k honor

[potent pivot]

2 bloodstones and 9750 honor per

[outer sky]

so the bloodstones are currency? I thought they were just a mat

[potent pivot]

They’re used as a currency to buy the Settings yeah

Not sure if they’re used for anything else, maybe for making the pvp gems or something?

The precog and 5% DR in stuns gems

[outer sky]

oh I see now

[summer ermine]

anyone having problem ocasionaly going out stealth?

[potent pivot]

Yes there’s multiple bugs causing it

[orchid plinth]

Understatement

[vague latch]

um hey i know uh battlegrounds are one thing bum

but um

how slippery are monks and any advice and you know getting them in arenas

really excited for this season got most of the honor gear 😄

like i can't stun them sometimes?

can they be blinded can i go for their smile etc or just gotta wait

[outer sky]

the only reason you wont be able to stun a monk is if you kidney into fists of fury because they run a pvp talent called turbo fists that gives them 100% parry chance when they use fists of fury

you can still cheap shot them though

[vague latch]

but they got rid of shadow dance ._.

[outer sky]

and gave you an extra vanish

with double subterfuge

trust me monks are no problemo for us rogues

we counter them

their big damage this season is spinning crane kick

which is AoE

so you feint it and it does 40% less damage

same with fists of fury

[vague latch]

yeah i just can't seem to solo the mistweaver monk getting focused by the evoker/disc priest

[outer sky]

cloak off karma

oh MW monks are tough to kill

they can restoral while stunned

port while stunned

twice

[vague latch]

yeah like so slippery

i think them and the healer evokers are a little overtuned tbh

but it might just be ppl not having honor gear

[outer sky]

pres evoker is overtuned

MW monk isnt

theyre just not a great kill target

thing about MW monk is

they have 2 "oh shit" buttons

but once those are out of the way they struggle with throughput

[vague latch]

i kinda wanna try the wowhead aoe cleave build with kingsbane instead of arterial precision for bgs

but yeah thanks, you know just to force that oh shit button but also keep sudden demise for the random picks on ppl and stuff

[potent pivot]

i don't think wowhead has pvp builds

[vague latch]

that is 100% true, https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pvp-talents-and-builds

[potent pivot]

yes that aoe cleave build is what you want to run

same build that's pinned here iirc

[outer sky]

If affi keeps dodging nerfs, aff/assa will be insane this season

[potent pivot]

if you want to play Kingsbane in BGs, you'd drop SBS for it

IC and AP are too good in aoe

[potent pivot]

let's be real here, aff/anything will be insane this season lmaoo

[vague latch]

yeah losing sbs, not sure if ic silences the nearby enemies though

[potent pivot]

SP is also looking lowkey op

[vague latch]

but you know 3 healers, gotta force some buttons

[potent pivot]

it spreads Impowered Garrotes

and the silence yes

[outer sky]

The ST build shown on that icy veins link looks scuffed af

Taking numbing poison?

and no sudden demise

tf

[potent pivot]

it takes DTB

it's a very literal ST build

[vague latch]

i tried both builds all day, they both work

2 shivs + ap is probably good in rbg

[outer sky]

TTK over amp poison though?

I'd drop numbing

and TTK

take amp instead

[potent pivot]

what does dropping numbing do for you exactly

[outer sky]

theres just no reason to take it if you take amp

[potent pivot]

you don't drop any power for it

[outer sky]

so putting it anywhere else is better

[potent pivot]

it's numbing/crippling

amp/wound

[outer sky]

oh youre right myb

[potent pivot]

dropping ttk for amp is probably fine depends though

[outer sky]

also it takes follow the blood over momentum

for ST

[candid tide]

wab deadly

[outer sky]

i guess it doesnt matter

[orchid plinth]

Let me interject for a moment : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDHX1xUyigU

[potent pivot]

[candid tide]

talented

[potent pivot]

deadly is pretty trash

[candid tide]

isnt it needed for amp poison

[outer sky]

no

[vague latch]

amp is it's own poison, if you don't run dtb for some reason

[candid tide]

gotcha

[vague latch]

raid meta says amp dtb afair

they're mean as heck in bgs lol

[potent pivot]

the only thing that requires Deadly is Caustic Spatter

[vague latch]

i'm getting metaphorically kicked by randos hahaha

[candid tide]

ah ye the poison spread

[chrome schooner]

Numbing is a non lethal and Amp is a lethal

You're being confused

Of course you play Numbing/Atrophic with DTB

As for Amp

It looks maybe good on paper

[crimson torrent]

how do u get a bounty on u ?

[chrome schooner]

But in practise vs good players

It stacks either get dispelled or just fall off when you are CC'ed

[potent pivot]

killing 10 of the opposite faction without dying

[chrome schooner]

So you never have the value out of it that you should

And it ends up being way worse than having a permanent MS + Deadly poke dmg

[stoic spruce]

You try outlaw any Shade?

[crimson torrent]

so u get tha bounty after killing 10

and then u need to kill another 10

to get the title ?

[chrome schooner]

Not much yet, Assa/Sub mostly

I will play all 3 eventually this season though I think

[potent pivot]

yeah

[chrome schooner]

S1s are pretty fun to play

[outer sky]

outlaw is already very competitive but with depths enchant itll be completely cracked

Guys I havent been able to do the brawl all week

has anyone been able to queue it?

[potent pivot]

nope

[stoic spruce]

Nice

Love the pfp btw Shade

Autocorrect keeps changing Shadenox to Shade

[indigo hill]

Nope. Tells me group can't join or something like that.

[outer sky]

@potent pivot will we still get a free piece of gear from 1600 rating?

[copper pivot]

It's actually even "Worse".
Because even the threat part only lasts the 6 seconds.
Which is not that big of a deal... except... if you run a duo in world content with warmode on.

[prime storm]

Hey, new rogue here, wondering if there's a real distinguished specialization that is ideal for PvP, compared to the other two

Couldn't find a definite answer in the pinned messages and websites

[plucky escarp]

All 3 specs are good and viable. I think the general consensus is play what you’re into and you can make it work

[split turtle]

Is slice and dice used in arena by assa? I've watched a few videos and it doesnt seem to be used all that much if ever by some.

[outer sky]

press it when you have nothing better to press

or when disarmed

[split turtle]

alright, ty

[surreal barn]

Did they turn off pickpocketing lockboxes

[chrome schooner]

Soon, soon we won't have to press SnD at all

It will be greatness

[candid tide]

anybody know what addon nahj uses that show sapable targets on nameplates?

[maiden siren]

BetterBlizzPlates

[candid tide]

k then its probably setted then since ive toggle nahj profile

[maiden siren]

It's in the pins, you have his profile included as well

[candid tide]

gotcha, yeah think then it will show up in bg or arena

[wet crown]

What Dr tracker are you guys using? I guess diminish doesn't work anymore?

I prefer one I can put on the nameplate.

[outer sky]

https://wago.io/R93MbZOoD

[plush warren]

I faced pshero today, got totally rekt, but that was fun 😄

[proven sapphire]

If I kill someone using deathstalkers mark and hit a low level mob

is that exploit

[orchid plinth]

Works https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/diminish-updated-by-jaesa

[candid tide]

do you guys like a123 kidney ?

my brain is probably gonna fart bad doing all these a123

[proven sapphire]

Please can someone confirm

[halcyon timber]

Nope, just scum bag level of activity like a dh leeching a goat or a shaman shocking someone off a cliff and bragging about it after.

[vague latch]

i do wish healers would stop healing each other so hard

[halcyon timber]

Heh

[proven sapphire]

Not bannable unless it disrupts a zone I assume

[halcyon timber]

Yep

Or if you grief

[vague latch]

i mean warmode is just bis gear and poisons

lets find some tokens

[proven sapphire]

Grief?

[vague latch]

cap 3/4

[halcyon timber]

Constantly smoke someone into the ground

[vague latch]

and farm as intended

just yeah, wow pvp has poor literacy rates

they could use community resources

[vocal surge]

Wut u mean?

[halcyon timber]

People have ceased to read and engage with their mind over the years and spark some cognitive activity regardless.

“I dunno whats going on , yeah i skipped the quest but i want to complain anyway although it was my choice to throw a toddler tantrum”

[vague latch]

most people queue for battlegrounds with pve spec and gear

they get pvp gear eventually but

yeah

[halcyon timber]

All gear is scaled to up to 600

And its a random bg

[vague latch]

anyone who gets pvp gear is still 26 ilevels up

can't that be averaged

[halcyon timber]

They do that in rated then that’s a big deal

[vague latch]

skill based matchmaking and all that

[vocal surge]

Ah

I was hoping you'd say skirms

[proven field]

I dont think SBMM exists in WoW

[vague latch]

i'm excited about arenas but yeah

you plsy bg's for the micro panic attack fails and push arenas

[halcyon timber]

Definitely up to people to read on their own

Their responsibility for sure

[vague latch]

yeah i mean it's okay, just i want more literacy for pvp matchups and stuff

i can't find rogue vs mw monk for example right, i had to ask

s'cool but some entry level guide does help all of us

[halcyon timber]

Learn by doing ultimately

[vague latch]

makes it seem dooable imo but yeah

cs2 grindset i feel you

[twin burrow]

My friends old teammate is the big cs2 streamer

[halcyon timber]

No just putting an intrinsic motivation behind why one does something has greater results via critical thinking and such

[twin burrow]

Good times

[vague latch]

it is fun figuring it out

big fan of system shock remake and system shock 2

https://tenor.com/view/shodan-system-shock-gif-17397983647230189192

[twin burrow]

All ur base r belong to uz

[vague latch]

gotten whipped by a 2.1k rogue before it's like

auh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKYpZzPMQJs

you don't die and you know how to respond XD

[candid tide]

guys i think sap 123 is not neccesary since this macro
#showtooltip sap
/targetenemyplayer
/cast Sap
/stopattack
/cast !stealth

will instant sap any target that is sapable right

if we press it in the right direction

[warped gate]

Tag for when home.

[wet crown]

wtf, why did mine break ._.

[wet crown]

gonna try this, looks like exactly what I want

[orchid plinth]

Did you notice that this is an updated one by a new maintainer? it should work! Old, original one is ded though!

[spring bough]

Boys Pshero is locked in for the season

https://youtu.be/jRghbu88fEg?si=UdcWYGUEIasXJmDa

He showed excitement. This is huge 😂

His healer goes “ps man… where’s that damage every game?” 😂

[jolly sierra]

are they that dangerous? xdd

[vague latch]

no maybe not with a teammate but you know

it's infront of org and they have two pvp trinkets and bis cata gear

kinda doesn't matter what you do

[jolly sierra]

ahh is in cata

xd

dunno then

[vague latch]

yeah like you win the stunlock kinda

but they have 2 trinkets and enough extra stamina to recover

it was fun

[jolly sierra]

the thing is we most play retail here

[vague latch]

but made me quit cata

[jolly sierra]

like 95%

[vague latch]

cata was retail when i played

[jolly sierra]

that is the reason sounded a little weird xdd

[vague latch]

yeahhhhh

still think the vicious gladiator shanker/shiv look the best lol

[tacit crane]

i saw a video of rogues doing 4 shadowsteps, how?

[plucky escarp]

That’s the enemy healer, Zen. If that is the same zen that plays with Bicmex and Rat, he is like one of the best Hpriest in the game lol

[lofty panther]

gotta say the meme build is fun for random bgs

[spring bough]

If I come across Pshero in rateds this season I’m gonna cry lol

[candid tide]

clap him

i play on the server hes in

won a duel vs him lol

[plucky escarp]

I don’t really see what he is doing different than any sub rogue honestly. Except for Goremaw

[lime oar]

Flagellation too

[topaz bobcat]

am I supposed to use this with bigdebuffs?

[lone yarrow]

is anyone else having problem with stealth? new to the party here i sometimes having issues using vanish correctly and my stealth sometimes even breaks out of nowhere

[halcyon timber]

Yes it is a known list of crud going on with other classes interacting with us rogues.

[lone yarrow]

allright thanks for the info!

[topaz bobcat]

with set bonus gonna be bigger

some kul tiran rogue outlaw rogue with plunderlord outfit just punched me off a tower

[candid tide]

holy crap spend a whole day keybinding and ui addons

all just to choke in arena xD

[spring bough]

Must be a copy cat I’m at work 😂

[lime oar]

Bro started a trend

[spring bough]

I’m gonna cry laughing if I join a game and a kul tiran named vancleef is in it with the same mog 😂

[safe pelican]

Idk if anyone answered this but it’s a talent node for fatebound

[spring bough]

About to see outlaw next patch quadruple grip 😂

[safe pelican]

Lmao that’s sounds toxic af I watched that video you sent of Pshero i feel like his opponents were undergeared …. They literally got obliterated

[spring bough]

lol my guy didn’t even expect it. He was flabbergasted 😂

[lime oar]

Mage will def get deleted with no shield and didn’t even block

Prob undergeared still that man got sent into the void

[spring bough]

Frost fire mages scare me

1.5 million frost bombed my ass last night

Ontop of infinite ice lances for like 800k a pop

[safe pelican]

*logs back into frost mage *

[halcyon timber]

Working as intended, good for them man

[visual fern]

hi where can i find good pvp builds and whats the best pvp spec?

[halcyon timber]

All are very close so do what you want

Check the pins in the top right as trickz has been updating it frequently

[visual fern]

tyvm

[halcyon timber]

No sweat man

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mark-of-the-spelunker-supreme-free-tier-piece-from-heroic-nerub-ar-palace-346460

In case people didn’t know officially

[elfin maple]

is bicmex gladius bugged?

mine has green squares

[candid tide]

season in 1.5 hours?

[safe pelican]

We live today?? I thought it was tomorrow

Yea it’s tomorrow bruv, keep the horses stabled

[muted abyss]

will we be able to buy weapons tomorrow?

[lime oar]

Nope. Week 3 I believe. As far as we know, weapons are not available for purchase whatsoever as we’ll all have a quest to earn conquest that will reward our weapons

[muted abyss]

Okay, sweet so still not the time to buy the level 3 enchants then

[tender ember]

is there any pvp bis list for enchants/gems yet?

[wet crown]

Any situations you guys would take trickster over deathmark for sub? I'm trying pshero's build now, it's interesting. Not sure what the difference in specialty is quite yet.

[tender ember]

pshero is the guy that played necrolord subtetly back in sl. Wouldnt ever follow his builds and stuff

[sharp sierra]

Hey guys i just came back to WoW. Last time i played was during Shadowlands. I used to be able to download these amazing TMW profiles that had a countdown for rupture garrote and such and i can't find any. I do see some more Weakauras profile and i imported some but its all messed up with icons going over each other and i just can't get it right. i was wondering if any sin rogue here has a nice profile they could share with me. i've been struggling for 6-7 hours atleast ( PvP SIN Rogue )

[wet crown]

the stealth bugs are starting to piss me the fuck off.

[tender ember]

i have but string is too long for priv msg xd

[idle root]

unholy dk's highest damage being frost fever is kinda hilarious

cant make this shit up

look at this shit lmao

[wet crown]

Yeah, it was kinda funny too, they nerfed frost fever at one point for frost and inadvertently killed unholy

during beta

[sharp sierra]

Ah man i neeeed it !

[sharp sierra]

perhaps you can mail it to me or something

[spring bough]

I love how locks get silently nerfed. Then they complain and it’s “oh not intended sorry we will revert”

Why can’t that ever be rogue

We out here with tons of bugs no fixes and they got one issue and blizz like here’s your hotfix 😂

[wet crown]

tbf

locks got slapped around for basically the entirety of df lul

[outer sky]

guys I'm getting a new bug

Garrote is going on CD in the middle of subterfuge

happened like 3x in the last hour

[surreal barn]

Hasn’t happened to me

You had any talent changes

[wet crown]

I had that bug last time I played but I forgot what caused it. It was awhiiiiiile ago tho

[halcyon timber]

Fuck em

[outer sky]

nope

[spring bough]

This. Despised locks ever since TBC when they became the golden boy for blizzz lmao

[halcyon timber]

wE hAv3’T bEn guD siNcE mOp bullshit

Lowgrade terrorists

[spring bough]

Is there any xpack where they haven’t been S tier for atleast one spec for one season?

[halcyon timber]

I don’t care what they do honestly

Just don’t like how we catch shit constantly

Is all i gotta say

[outer sky]

Holy fuck

Singular Focus breaks CC

[spring bough]

This time tomorrow boys queuing up for season one

[outer sky]

that is so fucking troll

[surreal barn]

🤦‍♂️

[halcyon timber]

Yeehaw

[candid tide]

im gonna try so hard

[spring bough]

Time for yall to learn outlaw

[surreal barn]

I have been absolutely destroying with some fatebound, at least it works fine

[halcyon timber]

Never

[surreal barn]

(As far as I know)

[spring bough]

Same. I’ve played outlaw at its absolute worst cause I’m trash at sin and sub 😂

[halcyon timber]

Outlaw and Assassination are cool just not my thing

Always have been a Subtlety rogue since lvl 10 back in tbc

I aint a jump ship type guy

For better or worse.

[candid tide]

tbc was the harp build

a hybrid build between combat and sub

50/50

[halcyon timber]

First moment i picked a talent pt and never turned back

[spring bough]

I started out combat daggers vanilla then morphed to combat sword after that for tbc lol

[sweet swallow]

Cloak. Off. Karma.

[halcyon timber]

Don’t care about what others are doing honestly

[sweet swallow]

We learning 🤓

[candid tide]

in that era warriors had. passive stun in arms talent

[halcyon timber]

Lol yeah cloak it with veil of midnight

[candid tide]

toxic af

[halcyon timber]

Not normal cloak of shadows

Yeah fuck lionheart executioner days

And fuck cata throwdown and gag order

[spring bough]

DW 1h fury was so broken lol

[halcyon timber]

And for dessert - fuck warlocks

[spring bough]

2.9 speed weps

[halcyon timber]

Warlock propaganda works always

Fuck em

Moonkin also run some type of anti nerf psyop that worked

[candid tide]

lmao rog and mages have always been op

theres r no expansion where they were not op

[halcyon timber]

Dunno starfall smoking everyone being afk is pretty wild

This will be a good season though for a lot of classes

Everyone is strong so pvp is fun

Irritating but fun . We don’t run smear campaigns here

[candid tide]

its so fast paced

its a long way from cata

[halcyon timber]

Wait for your favorite blockbuster to come out RET APOCALYPSE 2: RELOAD

[soft garden]

as assa i need use deathstalkers mark, as openner or nah, just cheapshot?

:c

[halcyon timber]

Politely Ask star or panda or trickz when you see them around , they won’t steer you wrong.

[wintry dew]

you just need to cast ambush somewhere before subterfuge runs out

[candid tide]

Is there an addon that sort enemy healer to arena1 xD?

[halcyon timber]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ouxUERguJcI?si=EmOxvK3RJ48amNPn behold a masterpiece

XD

[spring bough]

yall trolling pirate dm me this video not even 2 minutes ago lol

[halcyon timber]

I sent it to him xD

[vocal surge]

XD

[spring bough]

supatease such a superior player Lmaooooo

[halcyon timber]

Needs buffs obv

Saw another on moonkin where he prob 40-0 through a warr full wall

People are sleeping on keeper of the grove

[wet crown]

I just want the nameplate bit, how do I get rid of this part in the middle of my screen?

[potent pivot]

Ye

[jaunty spear]

does it share with pve again?

or do we get a pvp piece from rating and pve piece from hc/m+

[potent pivot]

yes

they are all 1 achievement

[jaunty spear]

cries in 1 rogue

[potent pivot]

i don't see how that hurts you ngl

it's a free piece of tier regardless of what you're doing

[inner tartan]

in pvp i like it because 1600 i think is way more ez then ksm or aotc early season

i wont lie it propaly should be 1800 in pvp not 1600 but me like it

[jaunty spear]

i mean yes ofc its a free piece.
but id like to focus on pve, and still want to hit 2k4

but w.e free piece ima take it

[potent pivot]

i mean you can focus on whatever you prefer

[jaunty spear]

but didnt they remove PVP gear from vault?

i heard sum about it but didnt inform further

i heard they increased weekly conquest but removed pvp from vault

or did sum1 troll me

[halcyon timber]

Yes , you’re right

[sweet swallow]

Nahj streaming some nasty rogue rtn

[candid tide]

Found xiuni on yt

Hes 3k+ rated

[potent pivot]

what

[candid tide]

Xiuni in this server

He plays with kalvish

[potent pivot]

nope

[candid tide]

Ah fake

[potent pivot]

the Xiuni that has played with Kalvish and others is a priest

the rogue in here is XiAni with an A

[candid tide]

Oh lol xd

Mb

That boy Kalvish claps tho

[potent pivot]

ye he's probably in the top 10 rogues in the world atm

[candid tide]

Whaazz might have some on his plate soon

[spring bough]

cant wait to be rocking 2pc tomorrow night at this time

we gonna be rocking boys

[potent pivot]

we got another one

nothing else remotely relevant in the post

[spring bough]

See yall for fixes in two patches 😂

[potent pivot]

you know the outlaw tier set is complete dogwater right?

[spring bough]

Don’t matter to me still gonna use it for a bit used everyone in DF

[potent pivot]

you do you :p

the 4pc is barely a 1.5% dps increase in PvE

[stoic spruce]

If the pieces have my stats, I'll use them

Other than that, no.

[potent pivot]

and nerfed by 50% in PvP

[spring bough]

Couple pieces don’t have verse def gonna be swapping em at some point

[potent pivot]

yeah i mean may as well at that point kinda

[stoic spruce]

If I'm going 3pc so be it

That way if they buff it, won't be dead in the water.

I can't imagine it stays this way

[spring bough]

I’m just excited for new gear and a new mog

[potent pivot]

Im probably gonna rush 2 set but mainly for sub

[potent pivot]

Same

[stoic spruce]

I'm rushing it for the mog

[spring bough]

I’m going helm chest or legs and then doing whatever of those two I didn’t get from 1600 lol

[potent pivot]

I’m so torn between leveling another character or farming honor tonight

[spring bough]

Prob getting shoulders too

[potent pivot]

I need to level my orc rogue

But I’m not honor capped

[spring bough]

1575 right there between helm and shoulders and we get 1600 🔥

[potent pivot]

I swear BG queues are fucked

[stoic spruce]

Upgraded my CPU but forgot to update the BIOS

[potent pivot]

Everyone decent is farming skirms or something

[potent pivot]

Oof

[spring bough]

5 min ques tomorrow cant wait

Maybe not even that if everyone playing lol

[potent pivot]

It’s going to be crazy I’m sure

This 3 weeks preseason

Hype for tomorrow is wild

[stoic spruce]

I get off Wednesday morning but I have a class to teach that evening. Won't get to play until Wed night.

[potent pivot]

Well you can’t really fall behind

[stoic spruce]

Naw

But I can fall behind on fun

[potent pivot]

[stoic spruce]

How does one pvp on newbs without pvping on newbs

[potent pivot]

Apparently Unbound Spoils spawn every 3 hours

Not 6

Nahj randomly found one at 8pm EST

@outer sky

[outer sky]

Ah nice

[potent pivot]

Not sure if it’s guaranteed every 3 or not

But definitely saw it lol

[surreal barn]

just wanted to skin this worm >.>

1, 2, poof

[spring bough]

Wanna see a magic trick? ✏️

[surreal barn]

lol

[stoic spruce]

Average sub rogue interaction btw

Like

Ever

[potent pivot]

Is it just me or is DH kinda ass rn

[surreal barn]

they ass

but paladin? no excuses

[stoic spruce]

DH players yes

[stoic spruce]

CC locks pally into unexpected one-shot on his part
"Dis pally so bad"

[surreal barn]

i should have.... crackshotted him right

[stoic spruce]

I'll crackshot you

[surreal barn]

bring it

[stoic spruce]

Meet me outside org

[surreal barn]

already there

hurry up

[stoic spruce]

Now wait until Wednesday night

[potent pivot]

lmao

[lime oar]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[stoic spruce]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9985sBujto/?igsh=eXhpM2I1NGczY2Z3

When bro calls me to ask me to hop on my main to kill the guy that's ganking him while he's leveling

[hard musk]

what pvp spec is best

[stoic spruce]

Assa

But they're all really good

[hard musk]

do they go wound poision?

[halcyon timber]

Only the claw is law

[potent pivot]

where does this come from

second person i've seen say that

[potent pivot]

play the one you want to play, all 3 are really good

outlaw and sub are better at very high levels, but it's not worth worrying about especially if you're new

[hard musk]

i like all 3 i have no preference

im just doing it for pve shit so i just want the one thatll make me win lol

[potent pivot]

What are you gonna be doing

[hard musk]

probably rbgs i think for cap then if theres a quest that awards the little crafted badges ill do that too

[potent pivot]

If you’re decent mechanically sub is very good for rgb

If you’re really comfortable with your CC capabilities

[hard musk]

with nimble?

[potent pivot]

Deathstalker

[hard musk]

oh

ya im not really good with all the cc shit but i can slam pve rotation pretty hard

[potent pivot]

Rogue doesn’t really team fight in rgb

[jolly sierra]

assa is good for TF with mass silencing

from IC

and cleave dmg

[stoic spruce]

Because it's all around good and currently has the most comps it can play with

[topaz bobcat]

did u know u could spread wound poison

now u know

[potent pivot]

I think assa is the worst for 3s rn

[stoic spruce]

We'll see

It's all just w/e rn anyway

[jolly sierra]

we were not talking about 3s mainly xd

[potent pivot]

Agreed

[jolly sierra]

was more general in concept

[potent pivot]

Ye but it’s kinda the same for rgb

[jolly sierra]

assa is very good for RBG

[topaz bobcat]

outclaw best fo shuffle?

[jolly sierra]

depends from the map

[potent pivot]

Assa is great for the orb map

Sub is better for base objectives

[jolly sierra]

and for WSG and the other flag map

[potent pivot]

I think that’s debatable

But it isn’t bad sure

[jolly sierra]

there is a reason ppl rotated between sub and assa in RBGs

with they joining at last

if was gilneas or arathi was 100% sub

[potent pivot]

Kinda hard to say because shuffle is just a shit storm no matter what

But could be yeah

[jolly sierra]

well shuffle is the most played bracket

[potent pivot]

I really don’t think any of this matters

For 99% of people

[jolly sierra]

tell that to my RBG group, they kicked me for not switching to sub in some RBGs

[potent pivot]

Lool that’s fucked up

[jolly sierra]

wouldnt say 99% of ppl tbh

tryharder rosters will force u

[potent pivot]

I would

[jolly sierra]

to switch

[jolly sierra]

dont

[potent pivot]

People just try to follow the meta

When they don’t need to

It’s pointless

[jolly sierra]

ppl will ask for meta stuff sure

but if they sees u are not in the right spec

there will be a good chance

[potent pivot]

Then don’t play with them

[jolly sierra]

u will be forced

to switch

[jolly sierra]

how ill play w them if i was kicked XD

[hard musk]

feels so weird opening with ambush tbh

[potent pivot]

You just press it during subterfuge

[jolly sierra]

the funniest shit

is they are looking for a rog now

[potent pivot]

Fuck em

[jolly sierra]

i wasnt called, so im going just SS

and blitz

ill just do my official job in that guild, nothing else

[hard musk]

oh we play that lol

[jolly sierra]

well, was buffed and shadow dance is gone

[potent pivot]

Yes it’s a 100% lock in for all 3

[hard musk]

ya just mean in pve its like pretty bad so shocked to see it makes sense hto

[potent pivot]

In pvp it gives you access to cheap shot and sap so it’s kind of a must have in all situations

[hard musk]

what do you guys thing the quickest honor is?

[potent pivot]

if you can q with a partner probably skirms

if not, BGs or Epic BGs

[potent pivot]

also make sure you buy some Vicious Flasks

for +15% honor gains

[hard musk]

oh true

ty

[waxen meteor]

Damn both sin/sub are fun now

probly will play both equally

[potent pivot]

They’re both really good too

Rogue balance is pretty on point so far

Not perfect, but not much to complain about

[plucky escarp]

I’m confused on crafted gear. Will we get conquest level crafted gear starting tomorrow? Outside of converting to tier, why would opt for the conquest pieces over crafted?

[limber copper]

Is crit/master the go to secondary for pvp?

[jolly sierra]

versa is always the priority for secondary

[potent pivot]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[potent pivot]

you're not really giving any context as to which spec you're asking about

but those are the stat prios

[potent pivot]

i made this yesterday https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1282527705513853069

but for the most part we will be crafting our gear yes

the only reason to get conquest gear over crafted gear

is because conquest gear has heavier Vers weighting

where crafted gear has very equal stat weights, for example: "500 mastery, 500 veres"

[plucky escarp]

Bless you, sir trickz

Weighting makes sense

[potent pivot]

there's also going to be engi items we can get crafted that have 1 stat only

like goggles with only huge vers for example

[plucky escarp]

Ah yeah I remember doing that in df

[potent pivot]

i'm going to continute updating the gear faq

as we figure things out

[plucky escarp]

I read on icyveins that Artful Mastery was the weapon enchant to go for

Or I think I did (for sub at least)

Or artistry or some shit. I don’t remember the exact name

[potent pivot]

i don't think that's going to be the case anymore

i believe Shade already pushed an update for those enchants, but waiting on IV to commit them

we talked about it yesterday

we should be using Radiant Power

like i listed in the faq

[plucky escarp]

Word

Yeah I made a shit ton of gold on professions so I might be blowing it on some enchants

Made like 800k in the last few weeks just gathering and selling bloodstones while I lived a complete life of degeneracy

[potent pivot]

lmao

[plucky escarp]

Until this time I’ve never had more than like 50k gold

[potent pivot]

i've made about 700k just from passively playing the game

[dull bridge]

@potent pivot i think you were in the chat when nahj said he was going to craft a dagger first week, what do you think about that

[potent pivot]

i really want to learn how to do profs soon, just been swamped with everything else

[potent pivot]

that's if we're even able to

i also don't think it's the best idea for most people

you're effectively wasting 875 of your early conquest

IF you can even do it

i think bloody token dagger is a way better idea

[halcyon timber]

Fuck that

[potent pivot]

he also didn't say he was for sure doing that

[dull bridge]

thats a good point - but also if you want the wep embellishment youre going to craft it eventually

[potent pivot]

he said it might be an option basically

[dull bridge]

sure

[potent pivot]

yeah the problem is when getting free weapons week 3

if you buy a weapon early you're only getting that power spike for 2 weeks

[halcyon timber]

Its cool they are trying to keep an “even field” for data collection

[potent pivot]

and once week 3 rolls around you will be behind an entire main piece of gear

that's like being behind 1 chest/legs/helm

[halcyon timber]

No knee jerk nerfs for anyone hopefully

[potent pivot]

perma

until we are fully geared

he also said he will most likely be doing shoulders/chest or something else first

to rush 2p tier set for sub

[somber plank]

Hey so for that weps quest, is it just to get 2500 conq at any stage over the season?

[potent pivot]

yeah

once you've earned that much conquest you complete the quest

[somber plank]

Okay nice, I was worried it was within a certain time frame sorta thing

[halcyon timber]

And 1600 for one piece and catalyst charge

[somber plank]

and I'm away for week 2 and half of week 3 lol

[potent pivot]

nah it shouldn't be

[somber plank]

lovely

[potent pivot]

you'll be a little behind everyone else

but it's always been that way

[somber plank]

yeah it is what it is

[loud ember]

Im so upset I have plans all day and night during reset

Fingers crossed I get to join up in queue with all the other dads and get an easier time of the climb

[indigo hill]

Playing eu or us?

[loud ember]

eu

[indigo hill]

Same. I'm one of those dads, so we might run into each other.

[loud ember]

please let me win

[potent pivot]

The game isn’t going anywhere homie

[loud ember]

thats what im saying

I'm the one going anywhere

[potent pivot]

There’s not much reason to grind right now

[loud ember]

can't wait to be sitting as a fully grown man in any company or place and go "IF I DONT GET TO PLAY MY VIDEO GAME IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF"

[potent pivot]

You just earn your conquest cap and get some wpvp gear

[loud ember]

its personal reasons

I have a bet with a close friend of mine about who gets 2.1k first

[potent pivot]

I see

[loud ember]

personally im hoping to get my first glad ever this season, I ended last season 150 rating away from 2400

I dont know if its feasable

But you gotta make your own goals

[potent pivot]

Yeah, start small

2400 first

Then set your sights on glad afterward

Getting all the wins above 2400 is the hardest part

[loud ember]

tfw your personal goals are now outside of the realm of boosting services

so you gotta make your own luck

[potent pivot]

Yeah no one does legitimate boosting for that

It’s all ToS

[loud ember]

I just wanna try once in my wow career to have a glad mount

And I'm not gonna be one of those guys that bitch about the reward system being fucked because i cant personally get gladiator

(the system is fucked but still)

[potent pivot]

not a bad goal to have imo

when i first came back to the game i really wanted to get CE

[loud ember]

i get that

[potent pivot]

got that done and got pretty burnt out on pve

[loud ember]

I'm living with a bit of imposter syndrome about the whole thing

So I have no idea if I've set myself an even remotely achievable goal

I quit in slands, didn't play for all of DF. Came back at the middle of DF season 4, got fully geared, hit the queues and got my first ever 1800 rating, first ever 2100 rating and came within 150 rating of 2400

[potent pivot]

well participation is going to have inflation pretty high this season

[loud ember]

now I'm wondering if the game was rigged and I'm actually shit

[potent pivot]

so kinda the best season to try

[loud ember]

i do feel i'm getting flashes of not being shit

so im a bit hopeful

talking about that hivemind tier game knowledge overview about what to do if XYZ does ABC

"healer trinkets sap, idiot, blind opening, vanish, resap, cheap, gouge, bomb"

https://tenor.com/view/math-zack-galifianakis-thinking-calculating-gif-5120792

but again i have no frame of reference

i dont know if that means i'm getting good or thats just baseline behavior

[potent pivot]

watching others can help

plenty of streamers anywhere from low glad range and up to r1/awc competitors

[loud ember]

i dont know if i'm clowning on myself but I have been watching a lot of Pikaboo

idk if he's gonna come back to that style but he had a period in DF where he was actually all about explaining what was going on and what to do in what situation

[potent pivot]

yeah not sure i'd watch him if you're trying to learn

he's an insane player but mostly plays viewer 2s and other classes these days

[loud ember]

yeah thats what im getting too

got any advice on who to watch for more current rogue gameplay?

[potent pivot]

uhhh

kalvish

palumor is good but he's kinda taking a step back from being super competitive i think?

[loud ember]

aight

[potent pivot]

whaazz

[loud ember]

i really wanna do a gameplay review at some point

i really feel like thats a good way of learning

but yeah who tf do i send it to

[potent pivot]

there's a lot of people who do coaching/vod review

if you'd like you can DM me a vod and i can look at it when i have time

[loud ember]

i'll probably take you up on that

But I'd want to get some rating and have a chance of getting a game I'm actually struggling

[potent pivot]

yeah i mean in a few weeks or whenever you find yourself having issues

[peak jolt]

Do we still want slow OH for the mastery on subtlety? Or is dagger OH better these days?

[orchid plinth]

I don't think it really matters I've seen both. I'm playing the mace with Mastery right now. Dagger OH is easier to mog

[potent pivot]

dagger is better

[peak jolt]

aight, ty

[potent pivot]

it does matter nowadays

[peak jolt]

shadow tech, right?

[potent pivot]

ever since shadow techniques was changed

and with Improved ShTech

it matters a good bit

[orchid plinth]

Is this game like League? Pros playing really shitty builds.

[potent pivot]

yes

[orchid plinth]

Pretty sure Whaazz was playing Mace OH

Hahaha gotcha

[potent pivot]

like i'm not trying to discredit any of them or anything

[orchid plinth]

They spend time getting good instead of obsessing over tier lists and 0.1% DPS gains from gear

[potent pivot]

but a lot of r1s just copy what others are doing, the same as we do

[loud ember]

what pvp talents should i be running as ass in 3s against 2 wizards

like, rn im running tricks of the trade

but is there an alternative

[potent pivot]

prolly just that yeah

[loud ember]

seems weird thats the only option

the other two are hemo and bomb btw

[potent pivot]

yeah you practically always use hemo/bomb

[loud ember]

so when are we thinking rogue gets a rework

[potent pivot]

not soon enough

[grave basin]

Not anytime soon

Look at .05 patch notes to see who's getting attention (again)

[potent pivot]

Paladins stealing all the dev time again

[grave basin]

Rets won't be happy till they get every DR in the game

[potent pivot]

They’re a ranged melee with every type of defensive in the game

I feel bad for people who play enh/surv

Their specs are so bad they’ve almost never felt they are functioning properly

[formal crystal]

we got any outlaw pew pew utility tree?

[indigo hill]

Outlaw, ww and sv are what I've played the most. Which are also the least played.

[formal crystal]

? :D

[potent pivot]

Wdym utility tree

There’s a talent tree in the pins

[wet crown]

Not a rogue video, but wondering if anyone can identify what he used here so I can abuse it on rogue.

https://youtu.be/7U7khvHj8D8?si=aWOjTPgHyf-Cppi-

[formal crystal]

ty

i just like running and gunning etc xd

[grave basin]

SV is good though

Even though it (was) neglected hard in DF

Tfw their tier bonus in DF S4 was a DPS loss and they refused to increase it to the appropriate power level

[haughty wind]

im oulaw in pvp, simming suggests i do crit vers. what weapons should i run, i already have the haste vers axe thats all

[loud ember]

wonder what the rework gonna do

[potent pivot]

We don’t sim for pvp

[loud ember]

Maybe finally kill outlaw and give us a ranged DPS spec?

[potent pivot]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[haughty wind]

oh okay perfect thank you

[potent pivot]

You want 10-15% haste from gear

Then all crit/vers

[haughty wind]

yep perfect

you cant double up weapons can you

[potent pivot]

You can

[haughty wind]

so double axe would be good im guessing

[potent pivot]

For now yeah

[haughty wind]

i read theres a quest by week 3

or something for free wep

[potent pivot]

Later on we can get all our gear crafted for conquest, for perfect stats

Yeah

[haughty wind]

thanks for that

[potent pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1282527705513853069

There’s a gear faq

I’ll update it with BiS once we figure out what BiS is

[haughty wind]

legend thanks

[summer breach]

hyped and ready for new ssn

[formal crystal]

what is it ur using

to make them blue and red

[summer breach]

the weapon enchants?

[formal crystal]

Yessir

[summer breach]

just older pvp illusions transmogged

[formal crystal]

yk which one it is? :D

[summer breach]

red = glorious tyranny, blue = primal victory, green = demonic tyranny

purple idk name some trash bfa enchant 😄

[formal crystal]

tyvm :D

[potent pivot]

The purple is from bfa pvp

[potent pivot]

They are all unobtainable now unfortunately

[summer breach]

dreadflame

[formal crystal]

ahhhh :(

[summer breach]

cant wait for the Bloodfang rework

with dble Red enchant 😍

[potent pivot]

There’s a lot you can get, just not those specific ones

Those specific ones were pvp rewards for specific seasons

[formal crystal]

yess ik i got some

[potent pivot]

But there’s like 20+ illusions u can still get

[formal crystal]

i rly wanna get some nice transmogs but idk i have googled and looked around everywhere and i cant find something i like

[formal crystal]

but when i just randomly see people in game or here u guys look amazing

[summer breach]

look at this! so sick lol

[formal crystal]

y that looks good

[summer breach]

I really like WoD set too

[potent pivot]

You can look in game as well

[potent pivot]

I don’t like a lot of sets but to make your own transmog set you need different pieces from different sets

So just going out and farming a bunch and eventually you can make your own style

[summer breach]

from all set that are still available for rogue the older sets are better in my eyes

[candid tide]

why are streamers are not reallydoing solo q yet

[summer breach]

like Ulduar / S9 etc

[candid tide]

they all in dungeons and bg lol

[summer breach]

Ssn starts tomorrow

[candid tide]

thought today

[potent pivot]

It’s not time yet lol

Still like 10 hours away

[candid tide]

swear i saw kalvish doing a solo q

[formal crystal]

ye ik but i still struiggle to finding something i like

[formal crystal]

+1 on this

[potent pivot]

War games

[candid tide]

must be wrong

[formal crystal]

but i dont even know where to begin xd i do a bit here and there

[candid tide]

ah i see

[potent pivot]

He queued with 5 friends

For an unrated solo q premade

[candid tide]

gotcha

[potent pivot]

Idk there’s a ton of cool stuff in the game

[formal crystal]

there is!

[potent pivot]

Usually I find cool shoulders/helm I like and try to make a set around them

Other than that I use full sets

[formal crystal]

heh

[potent pivot]

Also if you look in #transmog

You can scroll back literal years

There’s an unlimited amount of cool combinations shown off in there

[mystic shoal]

What embellishments we craftin tomorrow

[potent pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1282527705513853069

not 100% sure yet

but the likely choices are listed there

[mystic shoal]

well shit

[mystic shoal]

W

I guess it just depends on if you wanna be more defensive or offensive

[potent pivot]

not really

[mystic shoal]

i mean its vers vs highest secondary stat no?

[potent pivot]

vers=more dmg

[mystic shoal]

unless your highest secondary stat is vers then gg i think

yeah true

[potent pivot]

for assa/sub mastery will be your highest

[mystic shoal]

im just wondering that versus like, mastery for sin or smth

[potent pivot]

for outlaw crit will likely be your highest

[potent pivot]

there is no mastery one

there's dawnthread and duskthread linings, crit or vers

you can only use 1 blessed weapon grip

so you use 1 grip, 1 vers lining

[mystic shoal]

i mean the mastery you'd get from weapon grip but ah

you use both

okay

[potent pivot]

ye

and this is just going off how things were on beta/context clues really

something else might end up being better

[summer breach]

my guess 2x Vers Embelishment

[potent pivot]

but if you just use honor level embellishments you don't lose anything

[summer breach]

the bloodstone with 5% dmg red while cced

[potent pivot]

i just wouldn't craft any embellishments on conquest level crafted gear yet

[potent pivot]

that just sounds so bad though ngl

the grip is pretty good

[summer breach]

maybe yeah dont think its tested enough how good it really is

since u can simply craft a 639 dagger with the grip it could be sick

[potent pivot]

crafting a weapon is kind of a waste

[summer breach]

but in Season 1 u gonna have super super low versa so Its unclear yet

well if u want the grip u need a weapon or not?

[potent pivot]

ye but u can prolly craft honor level wep

we get free weapons week 3

[summer breach]

Ye but if grip is bis

[potent pivot]

if you buy them now you'll be behind in gear week 3

[summer breach]

u cant use them anw

[wintry summit]

Chest dropped item that should be available when season starts?

[potent pivot]

it's been available

[summer breach]

Its the spoil chest

1per week/per character

[wintry summit]

oh

[summer breach]

I only got 1 so far

[potent pivot]

they also drop from the war crate

[summer breach]

what really ? 😄

[potent pivot]

yes

[summer breach]

I looted like 100

[potent pivot]

low drop rate

[summer breach]

more than 100

[potent pivot]

it's like 1% drop chance

[summer breach]

so im already bad luck haha

[potent pivot]

also

for rn we could use 2 linings

until later

[summer breach]

Yes

thats what I will do

[potent pivot]

crafting a wep will put u behind by a decent chunk week 3

[summer breach]

untill grip is confirmed to be better