pvp

[grave basin]

Wog to full

[gilded gulch]

vanguards just

does way more dam

[steel scarab]

@outer sky that made me give up on pvp

[gilded gulch]

than any other ret

[orchid plinth]

Hey I played Icy Touch DK PHDK in Season 5 that was the worst I've played.

[grave basin]

I quit the game in S1 SL cause of rets

[gilded gulch]

i have a friend who

[orchid plinth]

But all these like... Corruption one shots? Convokes? That's way more absurd when people just die in 0.1 seconds.

[gilded gulch]

his first season he tried to pvp

was playing healer in prideful season

vs godcomp

[grave basin]

Then quit again in S1 DF cause of rets

Lol

[gilded gulch]

when fear and cyclone

didnt share dr

[grave basin]

You're forgetting

Symbiosis

[gilded gulch]

kill druid

[grave basin]

Rdru with block

[gilded gulch]

jk iceblock

xddddd

[candid tide]

savix?

[grave basin]

Xd

[gilded gulch]

idk vanguards is better than savix

[candid tide]

gotcha

[grave basin]

Who has his own npc

That's right

Thought so

[gilded gulch]

i dont think any other ret is comparable to vanguards

maybe mystic on eu?

[grave basin]

That ret who plays on awc

[candid tide]

vanguards played since cata or before

[grave basin]

P good

Can't remember the name

[gilded gulch]

yeah vanguards is like

an og og

also he has a comp

named after him

so

[loud ember]

anyone have a good ass build i can steal?

[candid tide]

they he came up with the trip dps in cata

and vang cleave idd

[loud ember]

im using the icy veins one and its just not hidding

[outer sky]

you want 2s or 3s?

[loud ember]

2s

[gilded gulch]

though i never confirmed

is vanguards retwar

[loud ember]

lemmet get 3s while you're here

[outer sky]

ret/war

[gilded gulch]

or retdk

[potent pivot]

it's in the pins

[grave basin]

2s=3s=m+ build

[outer sky]

play badge with the 2s build and macro it and cold blood to kingsbane. Play insignia with the 3s build

[gilded gulch]

oh thats the build nessper plays

except he has flying daggers

[grave basin]

Play outlaw and be a chad

[potent pivot]

it's the same shit we've played for months

just kb or no kb

[gilded gulch]

sanguine strat is new isnt it

[potent pivot]

yeah

[grave basin]

SBS is mew

New

[potent pivot]

not exactly

[grave basin]

But it's passive so whatever

[outer sky]

I'm trademarking this build. It was my idea on beta.

[gilded gulch]

idk if i like sanguine strat or flying dags

tbh

[grave basin]

Flying dags is so good though

[gilded gulch]

also blindside vs tiny toxic

[potent pivot]

i personally like blindside way more

[grave basin]

Blindside doesn't apply the hero talent

[potent pivot]

bro

.....

[outer sky]

?

lol

[gilded gulch]

it'd be kinda stronk asf

if it did

[outer sky]

Azliey

[grave basin]

It should

[outer sky]

where ya been my guy

[grave basin]

Wait does it

[outer sky]

lol

[grave basin]

I haven't played it since beta ended

[outer sky]

read blindside

[potent pivot]

don't evade the filter

this is the unofficial warning

everybody gets 1

[grave basin]

Yea it's ambush from stealth

[grave basin]

My b it's the twitch chat brain rot

Blindside just gives 1 extra cp?

What so good about it

[potent pivot]

no energy cost

ambush does half decent dmg

[gilded gulch]

isnt ambush 2

[outer sky]

problem I have with flying daggers is that if youre 11 or 12 yards away, which is the distance FoK can hit with it, base is 10, then you cant do anything else besides FoK within that range

[grave basin]

Just wait for rogue touch up in the coming patch

[loud ember]

whats your opener? I'm trying to go Garrote, ambush, cheap, rupture, garrote ambush kingsbane, deathmark envenom

[grave basin]

Also fun to find out that slice as fatebound breaks stealth

If it flips a coin

[orchid plinth]

Do you do double garrote in PvP as well?

Or is that a PvE thing?

[loud ember]

always

[potent pivot]

yes

[outer sky]

idk man Shiv just hits so hard with TTB I regularly get 400-500k Shivs. I got one at almost 600k yesterday

[orchid plinth]

oh right there was a second garrote there, just not directly after

[grave basin]

Blud bought the weapon enchant

[potent pivot]

gar, gar, rupture, ambush

[grave basin]

How much are those

[potent pivot]

stun where needed

[grave basin]

Authority of radiant power

50k each on Ah?

[potent pivot]

yeah but you'd get more ambushes throughout a match

an actual rated match that lasts longer than 2 minutes

[outer sky]

yeah sure but like, we dont really press it that much. And remember shiv cleaves. And it's rotational. And it applies hemo if we play that

[loud ember]

ok we back to pumping

[potent pivot]

yeah but blindside doesn't take away from any of that really

[potent pivot]

and TTB cleave dmg is negligible

[outer sky]

it takes away 2/3rds of the shiv damage

to proc something we dont really even press

[potent pivot]

i'm saying we would press it

[outer sky]

I got mine for just 35k each

[potent pivot]

if we played it

it's literally free

[outer sky]

but it procs off of ambushes and mutilates

so how many procs would you really get

[grave basin]

That's a good price if it'd max rank

[outer sky]

if we're not pressing it very often

[potent pivot]

that's something that'll take testing

don't know about you but especially during/after subt windows i'm not usually spamming fok

because i don't want to break my sap or blind

[outer sky]

i am unless I'm stuck to only 1 target and cant cleave. And even then I'm likely to just let my dots tick/pool energy for sanguine blades

[outer sky]

yep max rank

apparently they buffed the dephs enchant since beta

which is the preferred enchant for outlaw, warriors, WW monks, and enh shamans

so now instead of being in their top 3 damage it's supposed to be their reliable #1 damage

so thatll be fun

[grave basin]

My ww is still 70

[outer sky]

i got mine to 72

73*

I'll get 80 tomorrow

[grave basin]

Not too sure what's the appeal anymore

[outer sky]

then full honor gear him

its fun

[grave basin]

Just a pure brawler spec

[outer sky]

thats the appeal

[grave basin]

True true

[outer sky]

WW mastery keeps things interesting

[grave basin]

I heard conduit is merged

Nerfed

By 85% in pvp

[outer sky]

yeah you play shado pan

[grave basin]

I'm just undecided if I wanna level my human or orc

Human I played in DF orc in SL

[potent pivot]

if you're gonna play sub prolly orc

[outer sky]

think he means for his WW

[potent pivot]

true i wasn't following along

mb

[grave basin]

Yea ww

[potent pivot]

think ww is orc too tho isn't it

at least that's what i've been seeing

[grave basin]

Orc probs so you don't die in stuns

The wdp knock up is so obnoxious I love it

[outer sky]

yeah and theres a talent that shortens the CD

[vocal surge]

I wonder when Paladins are gonna get Holyfrost damage

[somber plank]

Assass is pumping out more raw dps atm over sub right?

And sub has the bigger burst window?

[potent pivot]

sure

[proven kayak]

To be fair wasn’t like this always ?

[orchid plinth]

sub burst assa rot outlaw wtf

[topaz bobcat]

people are on to us rogues

sandbagging hard for weeks

it's time to come clean and admit it friends

[outer sky]

who's sandbagging?

I do 1m dps and brag about it

[potent pivot]

funny

when warlocks mages hunters ferals and warriors just

exist

[outer sky]

feral is disgusting right now

I dont understand pallys that dont bubble and mages that dont iceblock

[azure rapids]

If you enjoy Wpvp, i would recommend going Horde on any of the RP PVP realms, ArgentDawn,Defias etc, it`s 80% alliance vs 20% horde

there are always alliance to kill:D

How the hell do Resto druids do so much dmg

they can almost one shoot in convoke as a healer!

768 k bite from a healer

[topaz bobcat]

didn't they nerf bite?

[indigo hill]

Go to the pvp areas and you can kill everybody.😁

[stoic spruce]

Can't stand those

[azure rapids]

sometimes i hit both factions but seeing as horde we are highly outnumbered i try to stay on alliance only :"))

Since the xpac started we got one cache :))

instantly those caches are flooded with alliance rats

[marsh wadi]

Anyone else have an issue with BetterBlizzPlates where Crimson Tempest won't show up on enemy nameplates?

I've got it set up with the same settings as my other DoTs, but just won't show up.

[silk tundra]

back in the days assa had more burst dmg 🙂

[grave basin]

Does anyone know if blitz is cross faction

[stoic spruce]

It is

[grave basin]

Ok ok, gonna roll with orc ww

War mode on oceanic with 99% alliance pop gonna be good

[vocal surge]

Anyone else having Killing Spree randomly not work?

Despite the target having no defensives to stop it

[grave basin]

Yes welcome to rog

It just bugs out and goes on cd

[spring bough]

Yeah I’ve had a few presses and 0 animation lol

And they didn’t have any immunity or anything up

[indigo hill]

Like myself. 🤣 got the gather 1000 honor in all zones achievement done in a couple of hours.

The other day a couple of horde tried but failed. Was 2 druids, a dh and a rogue.

[spring bough]

Has the season started yet

[rain crown]

One more week

If you queue skirms wirh 3 ppl they pop instantly and there are a lot of sweaty people doing them

If you want to practice

[spring bough]

Oh I know lol. Found some rank 1 healer in ques last night. Def some sweaty gamers out there got my ass kicked a few times lmao

[topaz bobcat]

imo fatebound should change so that u have to pick the coin that drops and get to choose if u pick or not so u can go full tail

[night gazelle]

The ultimate rogue fantasy

[rain crown]

Running around picking change up off the ground

[topaz bobcat]

I'm glad you guys agree because there are some few who hate the idea and I think they are afraid the skillcap would get too high for them

[crimson torrent]

which classes can remove bleed damage?

besides rogue with cloack "pvp talent"

[night gazelle]

Dwarf and Black iron with their respective classes

evokers maybe?

[crimson torrent]

thanks

[crimson torrent]

dayum

[grave basin]

dwarves , evokers , survival hunters and paladins with bop

[spring bough]

All we get is passive rng shit lmao

[topaz bobcat]

Even Sinnen agrees with me

[spring bough]

I’d love to but have so much rng… bones buffs… like if those were talents and u could pick 2 or 3 and they stayed that would be amazing

[topaz bobcat]

made me laugh

[spring bough]

20 yard pick pocket would make that easier

[inland thorn]

I like rtb

Big dopamine when jackpot

Fatebound is just straight up lame

[topaz bobcat]

next xpac hero talent be like

10% chance u roll the dices to win match instantly

before gates open even

[spring bough]

I could get behind that 😂

But what happens if u lose roll

[topaz bobcat]

u have to play as feral for the match

[inland thorn]

I'd do it

[indigo hill]

Going around like sonic.

[topaz bobcat]

evoker prolly gonna be S tier all 3 specs?

least played class, they keep buffing it like being weak is the reason

[grave basin]

gaurdian druid btw

[spring bough]

Ferocious bite always popping off lol

[dull bridge]

survival

[dull bridge]

wtf

[rain crown]

@crimson torrent evokers can survival can remove it off themselves and team mates, dwarfs off themselves, rogues and of course bop from palas

[dull bridge]

devoker is going to be opressive this season. every time i see them in skirms they're doing 75m dps in the opener

[grave basin]

bro i swear thisguy is doing some illegal tech

4m bite??

[jolly hazel]

i had the same thing happen to me yesterday i was over half hp and his bite did over 3m

[rain crown]

@grave basin That’s a guardian u said?

[grave basin]

yes

[rain crown]

Look up wildpower surge

On the wild stalker tree

[dull bridge]

bears dont get wildstalker

[rain crown]

My b

Claw Druid

[dull bridge]

he has ravage so he's playing druid of the claw

oh

[rain crown]

6 mangles > next bite does 225 percent more damage

[dull bridge]

i see

[crimson torrent]

!macro

anyone got a kings bane / tea macro

?

[spring bough]

Sick so expect to see some guardians Tuesday when they realize 😂

[rain crown]

@spring bough yea I wonder how hard you can get the mangle to hit in the feral version

300 percent increased damage mangle

Damn that looks fun actually, you can even use mangle in cat form and it jsut auto shifts you

[topaz bobcat]

I still see rogue as being unfairly OP

feral cannot blind or sap

[topaz bobcat]

and the prevoker is like godmode healer. nobody talks about evoker

[rotund mountain]

do you guys macro symbols into a bunch of other buttons, it feels like such a random CD to have to intentionally press all the time

[rain crown]

@spring bough guardian also has master shape shifter which increases bite damage another 60 percent lmao

[spring bough]

It just gets worse lol

[rain crown]

Yea then 20 percent if they pop heart of the wild

Hopefully that gets nerfed quick

[spring bough]

That’s obscene as a tank in rateds lol

Then bro can heal what 20% they frenzied, gets two charges of that, and it like auto resets the cd too

Good thing my druids 80 already 😂

Nothing on the hotfix for us rogues 😭

[analog forge]

this stealth thing is making me wanna break stuff in BG's. unplayable is an understatement

[spring bough]

I was hoping to see some stealth hotfixes. Maybe we can hope before Tuesday lol

[topaz bobcat]

guardian is big gaz should never be op

[spring bough]

Also wanna see the thousand cuts fix “auto attacks now reset unseen blades CD”

Then we gonna be cooking

[sick wasp]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2081529022?filter=highlights&sort=time learning the big moves boys

the big moves

frostfire mage is legit MADNESS

the snowdrift team-obliteration wombo combo

[spring bough]

Mages scare me sometimes if they are really good lol

[sick wasp]

im gonna play RMP both as a mage and as a rogue this season

100%

good old days

mage is SO FUN

i swear

triple dance sub on top of my snowdrift tech

there is just no way anything survives

[surreal barn]

What is this mage stun immunity bullshit

Is what I want to know

[sick wasp]

the ice form

pvp talent

[surreal barn]

I hate it

[sick wasp]

when u press icy veins u become immune to stuns

[surreal barn]

Exactly what I was telling sinnen last night

That sucks lol

[sick wasp]

its played into rogues or heavy stun reliant teams type of thing

situational

but its pretty good coz it adds 30% more frostbolt dmg

that amps the already crazy frostfire bold dmg

stupid dmg rly

[grave basin]

my mm hunter stonks going up

with all these mages

[sick wasp]

hunter is gone with this version of mage,u rly dont wanna play against spellsinger nor frostfire anymore

and even if its still better,there are so many dks and monks running down hunters its prolly not worth

like,how are u gonna run down a mage when sub rogue is all over u idk

im so hyped for the new season just lemme in

[grave basin]

i swear dev is also turbo broken

[topaz bobcat]

noted.

[orchid plinth]

Wtf balangced

[sick wasp]

druid could trinket/tranq he was a bozo but the paladin did stun him anyway

he trinket'd and go bear

thats the noob move

its a 2k arena anyway

[topaz bobcat]

that is mostly dk burst

[sick wasp]

if u check the dmg afterwards the mage did more than the dk

not alot,they were almost equal

[topaz bobcat]

throughout the game not in that 2 sec

that was 70% dk 30% mage imo

[sick wasp]

doubt its 70% dk but if the DK did that much

means he wasnt rly there half of the game

[topaz bobcat]

it's just how it plays hold for setup, mage is more like all the time

[sick wasp]

its literally the mages oneshot as well

he presses everything

wdym ''more like all the time''

[topaz bobcat]

why does the mage say "you triple killed everyone" to the dk

[sick wasp]

because he cleaved everyone makes sense

was his cds

he took 2 kills anyway

[topaz bobcat]

wait a sec why we discussing 6 month vid

frost dk burst is even crazier now lol

[sick wasp]

idk u brought it up

i was just mentioning the set up

not the actual dmg

u went in for the dmg meters

[spring bough]

Bro took the bait 💀

[safe pelican]

Is mage still valid after the nerf to ice lane ??

Got the outlaw rotation down last night thanks to the tldr guide starlink sent, it’s kinda of fun i guess but the issue remains the same too much button bloat ffs just roll assass do more dmg while pressing less buttons 🙂‍↔️

Still can’t beat having two swords for mogs , my rogue aura is at an all time high while dual welding swords so I’m gunna stick with it on this alt no point in having 2 rogues of the same spec

[sweet swallow]

alright basic pvp question... how do I not target minions and pets when things get hectic in a skirmish. I'm trying to tab target to apply bleeds but I feel like I lose track of the actual players lol

[safe pelican]

If I’m not mistaken that is the downside of tab targeting since it works through a targeting system where it switches through targets that are in your line of sight (you’ll never tab target to any enemy you can’t see on the screen )

The only way i think you can directly avoid this without going through the pets is to use arena frames or gladius frames and click on them.

Someone else may be able to chime in on that to verify and there’s also additional targeting settings in options

[trim palm]

maybe cause I'm ass but I use RETabBinder addon so it only targets players in pvp stuff

[outer sky]

I'm 2800xp from last season and I do the same thing lol

[safe pelican]

Valid you can use RETabBinder , you can also try to change the setting from tab/target next enemy to tab/target next enemy player.

This may work but now sure i know i have it set like this on my rogues but i have enemy player on my PVP/PVE classes

[steep kiln]

Can't you change tab to only target players? Just gotta change it back if you do a dungeon after

[sweet swallow]

yeah tbh the answer that is closest to "not have to think about" will be what i go with

[spring bough]

Yeah there’s a setting to do players only

[steep kiln]

Will check out that add on prob sounds nice. Always changing back n forth is annoying

[trim palm]

absurdingly nice when you go against like unholy dk/bm hunters/demon lock cause they got so much minion

even more so in BG

[wise breach]

HD Bloodfang coming

[potent pivot]

where you see dat

[wise breach]

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[potent pivot]

ooh

[swift smelt]

the stealth break stuff in bgs is terrible

like cant stay stealthed at some points its wild

[potent pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dracthyr-classes-revealed-hunter-rogue-priest-mage-warrior-or-warlock-346427

dracthyr rogue confirmed

[steep kiln]

one that annoys me in bgs is when your still in combat after you died cuz bleeds ticking or something. and you can't mount

[orchid plinth]

3v3 team flying into the arena in a squadron

[surreal barn]

Damn

Let’s get it baby

[jolly sierra]

WHOA YEEEEEESS YEEEEEESS YEEEEEESS

dont care about full set this shit is fire

[spring bough]

Evo rogues gonna be nuts with that lol

But that racial cast while moving is kinda useless for rogue

Think they’d change that for rogue?

[potent pivot]

kinda doubt they'd mess with racials for a specific class idk

[wise breach]

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1188710.jpg

[jolly sierra]

yeah

its perfect

[spring bough]

I’m amped for blood fang

[brave crag]

Wow that is hype I was just reading the post

[spring bough]

It looks so good

[safe pelican]

Flying through the sky with the boyz is dope

[spring bough]

Gates of AQ revisited as in… MOUNT?

Bro if they rereleased that im taking off work the the entirety of this event lmao

[surreal barn]

Damn

Does that mean if we already have the OG we can just get the new one 😂

[spring bough]

Those weps looks cool

Or are those cloaks

[jolly sierra]

looks like cloaks

[potent pivot]

those are back pieces

[brave crag]

Back pieces for the races in wc3

Orc , human , night elf , undead

[spring bough]

The new armored phoenix mount too 🔥

Maybe it won’t squawk every time like Alar does

They did a dk tier two set it looks like

Monk too

[brave crag]

Dracthy as well

[spring bough]

And a DH one damn

[near echo]

just or me or rogues in open world pvp dont do a lot of damage?

my sectech hitting 200k~

[spring bough]

WTB warglaives mogs back on rogues

[potent pivot]

do you have gear?

[near echo]

4-5 items

but the people im trying to kill are around 4000k health as well tho

[outer sky]

welp Outlaw's done

[potent pivot]

yeah i don't think damage at less than half geared is a metric worth thinking about

[near echo]

alright ill max gear first and what are people playing between sub and assa for open world

[potent pivot]

can play any spec for open world

can delete ppl on any of em if you know what you're doing

[spring bough]

Oh there’s gonna be at least two set colors????

Wonder what BFs second color would be… green or purple?

[potent pivot]

no idea

blue or black prob

those sets already exist iirc

[spring bough]

A purplish smoking one would be cool

[outer sky]

do you guys see what just happened

[spring bough]

Yeah. That means they gotta go back and update other stuff

[outer sky]

Hunter, Rogue, Priest, Mage, Warrior, and warlocks can all be dragons now

[potent pivot]

yep

[outer sky]

warrior dragons

do we see a problem

I do

[potent pivot]

double jump for all

[outer sky]

plate armor

with their scales racial

so plate armor +75% more armor

if you do physical damage, dragon warriors are gunna be untouchable

[river forge]

Notrickz where my 2v2 talents i'm making a return

[spring bough]

Good thing I’m playing no parry 💀

[potent pivot]

same build in the pins, just swap Alacrity and Deeper for Cold Blood, and swap IC for KB

[potent pivot]

whats this called?

i don't see it on the list of racials

[potent pivot]

maybe that's an evoker specific passive

[spring bough]

Bro Evo warriors gonna be stone

🤦‍♂️

Hey but outlaw evos gonna be even more tanky I guess lol

[outer sky]

I swear if it is then it was a racial at some point because I checked it the moment blizz announced theyd do other classes as dragons

[potent pivot]

that isn't listed on Dracthyr racials

[outer sky]

Doesnt seem like dragon will be good for rogues

[potent pivot]

yeah i'm quite positive that's an Evoker specific passive

[outer sky]

hm....dragons get 1.5% more mastery

maybe good for sub

since they dont need meld

[potent pivot]

you get more mastery from Human

+other stats

[spring bough]

Kul Tiran 1% verse plus haymaker an option too 😂

[potent pivot]

you get a knock up and a knock back

both are a little meh

[outer sky]

not good for melee

ranged may like that though

[potent pivot]

giving mages another way to kite

[outer sky]

omg youre right

3m CDs though but still

also even if the evoker takes the shorter tail and wing talent theyre still 15s longer than before

[topaz bobcat]

gonna kidney then throw them away from myself with racial so that I can shadowstep

[twin burrow]

Stop calling them evos

https://tenor.com/view/granturismo2-lancer-evolution-evo-mitsubishi-gif-23828962

[fallen wharf]

Are you subs trying to focus on Deathstalker Darkest Night big Evisc for big dam? I feel like my Sec Tech is so weak even with blades and sepsis/symbols rolling. Is it even worth putting rupture up first for 1v1?

[potent pivot]

sec tech isn't really your big dam button anymore

yes rupture is worth always

[severe helm]

its an evoker passive

[jolly sierra]

ill call my lizard rog lift-her-tail

[outer sky]

"Is that a tail in your pants or are you just happy to se....oh...."

[muted abyss]

I'll play a lizard when they add the option for boobs, Argonian style

[proven kayak]

Is devoker good

[potent pivot]

it's ok, don't think it's crazy good or anything

[proven kayak]

I guess people cry about everything those days

[spring bough]

Welcome to the 21st century

[steep kiln]

seems whiners moved on from frostmage to aff lock

[queen adder]

what pvp macros are u guys using for step kick?

[warm tundra]

what do you do after vanish to apply pressure

[potent pivot]

as sin? spread empowered garrotes and spread rupture/CT

[warm tundra]

so never ambush for the mark?

[potent pivot]

/cast Shadowstep
/cast Kick```
this would work, idk exactly what you're looking for though

[warm tundra]

and what about cheapshot

[potent pivot]

yes you ambush

[queen adder]

#showtooltip Shadowstep
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Shadowstep
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Kick
/cast [harm,nodead][@targettarget,harm,nodead] Kick
/targetenemy [harm,nodead]
/cast Kick
/targetlasttarget

this is what i use

[potent pivot]

okay?

[steep kiln]

#showtooltip Shadowstep
/cast [target=focus] Shadowstep
/cast [target=focus] Kick

[warm tundra]

do you fuck w/ this option?

[spring bough]

Hell no for PvP

It’ll change ur target a thousand times lol

[mossy gazelle]

does anyone have a good sub rogue pvp guide you can link me to? there aren't many for TWW yet but I just need to see a general guide on how to play - coming back after a long time

[potent pivot]

there's a link to iceyveins in the pins

[jolly sierra]

they were about to do that according to concept art

[warm tundra]

alright

[mossy gazelle]

thank you

[jolly sierra]

but imo they didnt finished models pulling the excuse for being more androgynous just for lazyness

[warm tundra]

what are the general use pvp talents?

[potent pivot]

bomb, hemo, disarm

disarm can be swapped for other talents

when not VS certain melee/mm hunter

[warm tundra]

yeah thought so thats what im running

[muted abyss]

Yup, then the scalie devs got a hold of things and shut that down. Now we get deviant art lizards

[warm tundra]

but i did swap disarm for system shock

[jolly sierra]

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/images/thumb/a/a4/Dracthyr_female_concept.jpg/1280px-Dracthyr_female_concept.jpg

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/images/thumb/7/73/Dracthyr_male_concept.jpg/1280px-Dracthyr_male_concept.jpg

[potent pivot]

that's probably fine for like, wpvp or BGs, but for rated content you probably want Tricks or Cloak talents if not running Disarm

[jolly sierra]

even gnolls had female appearance in canon, w differences

ye, def were lazy

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/images/5/58/Traveler-Cackle.jpg

see

[sly horizon]

Any good asas rogue pvp guides on youtube?

[potent pivot]

if you're newer to assa i'd recommend checking the iceyveins guide first

shadenox has some vids from Dragonflight on YT, the playstyle is similar minus a few talent changes

[candid tide]

raz has a fundamentally good guide too

covers how to do dmg etc

[sly horizon]

I will check both of them out thank you!

[potent pivot]

those are all like, really old as far as i know

yeah like DF season 1, that's pretty outdated

[sly horizon]

I have always wanted to get into sub but everyone says its the hardest spec to play etc. I decided to at least play asas

[candid tide]

true, but the useful part is when he talks how to bleeds everyone up etc, positioning, might be good for somebody who just started sin rog

[potent pivot]

yeah i guesso

[candid tide]

but ye we in dire need for a new tww guide

iim atleast

[potent pivot]

sub is rotationally harder, but it's also easier to live

sub has more survivability, sin is kinda the spec that lacks that

[potent pivot]

tbh shadenox last guide is very similar playstyle

that's why i still recommend it, after reading the iceyveins guide

the only thing that's really different is that we don't run kingsbane pretty much

[candid tide]

sounds good might have to have a check on it

[glacial aurora]

what ring enchants are we using on sub? and what are they called

[candid tide]

but ye sin rog is pretty straight forward when u know the drill imo

[potent pivot]

just get the mastery enchant

lol

filter the auction house to only show this expansion items

[candid tide]

its the more versatile sub spec that needs some real executions

[candid tide]

good lord prices dropped significantly

[potent pivot]

get whatever mastery enchant you can afford

[candid tide]

thank god

[potent pivot]

with the most mastery on it

the Radiant have the most, and they are more expensive

[glacial aurora]

i found

the cursed ones look interesting

[potent pivot]

the problem with the Cursed ones

is that they just give less mastery than the Radiant ones don't they?

Radiant give 315 and Cursed give like 167

idk why you'd ever use them

[glacial aurora]

yea didnt see the radiant ones lol

[dull bridge]

gonna take you like 2 sessions to get to operational capability, it's no big deal if you want to play it

[sly horizon]

asas or sub?

[dull bridge]

sub

[sly horizon]

oh really?

[potent pivot]

not everyone learns at the same pace

[dull bridge]

I mean it's a hard spec, also because it plays differently from other specs. But if you want to start getting into it this is a good time.

but first time you dome a fool in a duel and nothing comes close afterwards

[potent pivot]

i do agree it's not a bad time to start learning

sub feels strong enough to where you don't really need to be a pro to make it work like some times in the past

[warm tundra]

is fatebound better for assa?

its all im seeing on leaderboards

[potent pivot]

nah

[potent pivot]

what leaderboards are you looking at

season hasn't even started yet

[warm tundra]

top players from past season i guess

[potent pivot]

yeah but on what site

[warm tundra]

drustvar

[potent pivot]

because im looking at most people using deathstalker

[candid tide]

people are still trying things out and they switch to pve talents too

[potent pivot]

very much this as well yes^

[warm tundra]

deadly+crippling poison is the meta?

[potent pivot]

no

wound+crippling

[warm tundra]

kk

[proven kayak]

that just happened

[potent pivot]

oof

[marsh wadi]

Uh

Sin's pretty good, eh?

[potent pivot]

everyone else in that lobby was just terrible

apparently

[safe pelican]

Had this happen to me as well you get an achievement if you’re on the winning team

Leveled my outlaw rogue to 72 before i went to touch grass , it’s fun but i can’t play pvp with this until the rotation is second hand nature to me like sub & assass

[swift garnet]

its my first time playing pvp which spec and pvp talents do I choose

if anyone know and wanna help

im lost

[safe pelican]

Gracias Cabron 🙂‍↔️✅

[spring bough]

slapping up the charts?

[potent pivot]

have you played pve?

[swift garnet]

i only do dungeons but wanna try this season pvp

[potent pivot]

i would play whatever spec you're most comfortable with

[swift garnet]

yes me too

i just wanna know if assa sucks to much

[potent pivot]

nope

all 3 are really good

[potent pivot]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/pvp-class-guides

check out the guides there

[swift garnet]

ty ty

[potent pivot]

any questions after that feel free to ask

[swift garnet]

ok im reaading

[safe pelican]

Yessirrrrrr excited to see the numbers with some BIS gear def changed my outlook on the class

[marsh wadi]

You're right. Sin's actually terrible. Respeccing WW.

[fallen scaffold]

sin ownssss

[potent pivot]

i'm glad someone FINALLY gets it

[fallen wharf]

When are the fixing this blasted unstealthing bug? Game breaking in BGs.

[potent pivot]

2250 out of 7500 needed

[fallen scaffold]

wat are the skyriding glyphs for

[potent pivot]

probably never if you want an honest answer

[potent pivot]

just achievements maybe? not sure

[fallen scaffold]

i dont see a skyirding tree?

ye

ok

[potent pivot]

there isn't a tree anymore

[inner ivy]

glad to hear it's not just me, has been driving me crazy trying to figure out what'

what's happening

thought maybe I had graphic settings too low and was missing auras on the ground or something for a while lol

[potent pivot]

just report it every chance you get

[fallen wharf]

Absolutely not you, happening to all of us... forum posts all over and follow this Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1f2zeaq/figured_out_why_stealth_is_breaking_nonstop/

But yes, it's driving me crazy as well and makes me not even want to join BGs

What weapon enchant are we running as sub? I haven't even looked into that yet...

[potent pivot]

it's not just us either

it's also happening to ferals etc

[fallen wharf]

Right, it's worse than ever and affecting more people than ever

[potent pivot]

radiant power. it's like 25k each still

[dull bridge]

i would legit zone out hitting a pvp dummy for 20 minutes on my outlaw

the rotation was pure dopamine in sl

https://www.twitch.tv/venruki/clip/SassyDarlingBaguettePupper-N2usy5PbKyyqheYl just saw this on venruki stream

[potent pivot]

i mean he's just a monk

with no trinket

he should 100% die there

[proven kayak]

Assa is very good might find PvP discouraging at the start but after some games you gonna get it just a circle of trade cds and find the windows for a kill

[surreal barn]

Got fucked up a lil there

lol

[potent pivot]

it's funny

[surreal barn]

So funny

[potent pivot]

if Ven 100-0'd someone in a Sweep on his Monk he wouldn't see a problem

hmmmmm..........

[surreal barn]

I mean, I’ve been getting 100-0 in a monk stun for 2 seasons now if my trinket isn’t up

[plush warren]

how's sin performing in 2s and 3s in your opinion?

[potent pivot]

all 3 specs are doing well

[swift garnet]

its very discouraging because i have 4kk life and the others is 6.5kk but i will farm honor

[dull bridge]

i dont remember KS ever hitting that hard

but last time i pressed that button the spec was called combat

[proven kayak]

Monks SL S1 was my nightmare

[dull bridge]

red buff killing spree 🥹

[halcyon timber]

Yep for sure and ol revealing strike days

[outer sky]

sin is way better in 3s than in 2s right now

but it's still decent in 2s

you just have to play like a bitch

and dampen the other team

[plush warren]

sub would be better in 2s?

[potent pivot]

i mean he's already down to like 1.7m health by the time he KS's

[outer sky]

probably not. I feel like all 3 rogue specs are kinda shit in 2s.

which is fine, better to be better in 3s

[potent pivot]

sub is prolly gonna be better for double dps 2s

[outer sky]

yeah if youre playing RM 2s

sub for sure

[potent pivot]

assa prolly better with a healer

[fallen scaffold]

assa/disc gunna be decent af

[outer sky]

outlaw may honestly be the best 2s spec

[outer sky]

ehhhhhhhh it'll be okay

the problem with all 3 rogue specs right now is that they have a hard time killing people by themselves

[spring bough]

trickster >>

[potent pivot]

coulda done that with either tree tbh

15 more runs of Maw of Souls to go

[outer sky]

I remember spamming MoS for something back in the day

what are you farming? I cant remember

[potent pivot]

30 Legion dungeons for an artifact appearance

[outer sky]

yup that was it

the kingslayers

[potent pivot]

yeah, you get 1 appearance for each spec

[outer sky]

I just dinged 80 in the middle of this dungeon

do I leave or finish

[potent pivot]

i wish there was a way to track how many WQs i've done since getting the appearance

[fallen scaffold]

fuck em

[potent pivot]

finish

you get a leaver debuff from all dungeons now lol

dunno if you'd even be able to q pvp

[outer sky]

you can

[potent pivot]

fuck

was supposed to be doing the dungeons on the rogue i did the quests on

lovely

all my WQ progress is also on the old char only

great game

[crimson torrent]

how many of Vicious Bloodstone, should i have in stock to be ready for when the season starts

[potent pivot]

doesn't matter really

[crimson torrent]

oh

cuz im capped in honor

[potent pivot]

you won't have full conquest gear to socket

you only need 18 bloodstones in total

[crimson torrent]

ok nice

ty

to play brawl is must be in a group *?

[potent pivot]

if that's what it says

ik you can't q it with 2 ppl, need 5

idr if u can q it solo

[wise breach]

Anyone know if the S1 illusion's been datamined?

[crimson torrent]

ok ty

[wise breach]

Tbh I don't think we should be using conquest gear outside of tier pieces and trinkets

Rest we can used crafted gear to optimize mastery

[potent pivot]

it doesn't matter for the question that was asked

[wise breach]

It's not spark limited anymore, so can craft using the 626 honor heraldry, then upgrade to conquest heraldry

[potent pivot]

you won't have full gear week 1

regardless

[wise breach]

If you really wanted to get ahead, you can craft all your gear week 1 and socket it right away

[potent pivot]

the crafted gear still costs conquest

so it's like saying the same thing

[fallen scaffold]

wut

[potent pivot]

no

you cannot

[fallen scaffold]

LOL

[potent pivot]

...

[wise breach]

Sure you can, you craft it with

socket

[potent pivot]

that's just honor gear

[wise breach]

Then recraft with conquest one later

I know

[potent pivot]

waste of sockets

[wise breach]

Wouldn't you be recrafting the same item, so socket stays?

[potent pivot]

until we're sure of what the optimal set up is going to be

[wise breach]

Unless you can't replace the heraldry while recrafting

[potent pivot]

you don't know if that slot would actually get recrafted or not

so even if the socket stays

the only thing you'd socket is like ring maybe

[wise breach]

Rings, neck, belt, bracers, but yeah, doesn't matter much, I doubt anyone's going to farm 60k honor week 1

[potent pivot]

again, no

the only slot you can say with 100% certainty won't change later is 1 ring really

it's going to depend if we start running engi pieces later, among other things

[wise breach]

Fair enough, the single stat ones?

[potent pivot]

you can't predict what item for all of those slots is going to be locked in without doing any testing at all

[wise breach]

Or is there some other stuff I didn't look into

[potent pivot]

ye the single stat engi pieces

between those and embellishments, we don't know for sure what we're running yet

[wise breach]

The thing with those though is you can't get them to 639

[potent pivot]

some things are more likely than others, but still

i know i'm not going to be recommending everyone socket a bunch of 626 gear yet

if someone wasted even 1 socket item i would feel like a complete jackass

once our bis list is solved, then it's fine to recommend things

[wise breach]

I'm going to craft a 613 and see if it allows changing the heraldry, if it doesn't then everything I said is irrelevant

[potent pivot]

we also need to know if the socket does in fact stay

[wise breach]

It's got to, recrafting gear in DF only removed the socket when going up to a higher spark the next patch, but fair, can't assume anything

[potent pivot]

btw

[wise breach]

Ahh nice, didn't see those

[spring bough]

over a million dps in a 3s skirm LOL

[outer sky]

assass right?

[spring bough]

no lmao. outlaw baby

[outer sky]

wtf

most ive hit as outlaw in 3s is maybe 650k dps

[spring bough]

i clipped it lol

[outer sky]

were you cleaving a shit ton of pets?

[spring bough]

its like 1min 25s ima see if it can upload

maybe lmao

[outer sky]

nice ace RNG damn

[spring bough]

details got edited out cause im on an ultrawide lol

yeah it was going crazy lol

44m tho and DK at 20m lol

[crimson torrent]

whats the combo points wa ur using

can u please send it

[spring bough]

the one on the chars or the rogue weak aura?

[crimson torrent]

the one on the target

on the nameplate

!Wa

[lethal roost]

Rogue WA's:
https://wago.io/weakauras/classes/rogue (Wago Rogue)

[spring bough]

should be betterblizzplates its an addon or u can do it thru the options on the personal resource display

[stoic spruce]

My build would've killed sooner

[pseudo fjord]

best assasination build for 2's atm?

pins? or that for bgs?

[potent pivot]

The one in the pins is for basically everything but duels/2s

You’d just drop alacrity/deeper strat for lethality/cold blood
And drop indiscriminate carnage for KB

[pseudo fjord]

ty m8

[spring bough]

lock quote from a bg "full of dots FK it blind them off" LOL

[outer sky]

Why cant I queue for the brawl?

wtf

[vocal surge]

Ezpz 5 base cap

[spring bough]

happens to me too /shrug

[blissful cargo]

yoo what ui/bars is that

[vocal surge]

self made w. WAs

[blissful cargo]

damn looks sick!

[vocal surge]

Aye

Lights up on fire the more Flawless Forms I have as well

[spring bough]

fk yeah just got The Horde Slayer title

pretty sure i just got 50straight kills with this debuff lol

[potent pivot]

i think you need a full premade or some shit

[marsh wadi]

Should I stress too much about getting CT up before I burst? Or just worry about gar+rup for the most part?

[potent pivot]

you don't really burst as assa

[marsh wadi]

I kinda just throw it up whenever I'm not actively trying to kill

Okay well, pre-deathmark

[potent pivot]

if you're focusing 1 target you don't need to CT before Deathmark no

if you can cleave your garrote/rupture on more than 1 target, you should CT

[marsh wadi]

Gotcha. That's what it kinda felt like for the most part, but wasn't sure If I was losing valuable pressure.

[potent pivot]

Deathmark doesn't really provide any valuable pressure

it's a pretty bad CD

[outer sky]

the energy is nice

[potent pivot]

your big goal as assa is to dot as many targets as possible

[outer sky]

if you only have bleeds on 1 target

[marsh wadi]

I like the en but yeah it's kinda eh

[fallen scaffold]

people still press buttons when they see it

i like to strategically use it to bait cds, throwing it on a quick swap target right after your teams first "go" etc

back in df id macro dance and kb tea into it all on 1 "go" / target but ye i think its better by itself rn like inbetween windows

[safe pelican]

I’d trade Tww sub in for DF Assass 😔

#Pain

Rip DF assass rogue

[sweet swallow]

how do i make a macro for kingsbane and deathmark

[somber plank]

to use at the same time?

[sweet swallow]

is that not something people do, like a just send it button

[somber plank]

I think you can do a cast sequence macro, I keep DM and KB separate

but cast sequence macros basically put 2 or more skills on the same button, but you need to press it multiple times

if that makes sense

I haven't made one, but I saw Bahj talk about them in his warrior video

I think it'd be something like
#showtooltip Deathmark
/castsequence reset=30 Deathmark, Kingsbane

Where "reset=30" means after 30 secs of the button turning into kingsbane it'll reset to Deathmark

(I think)

[candid tide]

You have to shiv first, then dm and then kb iirc

[somber plank]

Well yeah I'd definitely slap those in there but just as the bare bones

It's DM shiv KB shiv right? I'd even slap in thistle tea trink in there

Prob not optimal but I'm a lazy man

[candid tide]

Nahj 2 streams ago said that sequence macros are buggy in arena

And bad

[somber plank]

Aaaa dang I was actually thinking of making this macro when I got home

[candid tide]

Yeah i was thinking of making a few myself but it seems from his advice that its best to bind everything separately as sub

He dont even macros cheap shot or SS on Dance since it might cause bar lag

[worthy crag]

People bind cheap shot/SS with dance?

Thats a recipe for bar lag for sure

the only castsequence macro that's not "bad" to use on a regular basis would be step kick or step stun

everything else is so situational

[outer sky]

lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[potent pivot]

you know those boxes can have recipes in them right

did the setting actually drop from a box or did you find a chest

[outer sky]

I'm in the same guild as Nessper and he and 2 other guys in the guild were looking for 2 more to fight over the chest

so I joined up and got lucky

[potent pivot]

dope dope

is that a pvp guild?

[outer sky]

for the most part yeah

[potent pivot]

Been able to find 3s q’s in there?

I’m prolly gonna be slummin it in LFG this season

[outer sky]

I have a healer all ready to push

[potent pivot]

I got invited to the only pvp guild I know of on my server but idk anyone in it yet

[outer sky]

I just joined this guild a few weeks ago

problem is

everyone in it

is way better than me

so like

why would they play with me

when they can play with each other

[potent pivot]

Well that’s a good thing

Kinda

When/if you play with them you’ll prolly feel pressure to play your best

Might help you improve

[dull bridge]

no joke playing with people better you is the fastest way of improving

[outer sky]

I tend to crumble under pressure though. The night I conceived my daughter it took like 3 hours

[potent pivot]

That’s definitely how it was for me in pve at least

The hardest thing is finding people that are willing to q while you improve

[dull bridge]

that's a deep cut brother

[outer sky]

This is by far the hardest thing about it

[potent pivot]

almost all of SL i slogged through LFG til i found some consistent people to play with

in DF i don't think i q'd lfg once

if i didn't have q's i'd just shuffle etc

[outer sky]

I get stage fright

playing with new people

like

so much anxiety

if I make an obvious mistake

thats obvious to everyone but me

[jolly sierra]

do you skirmish frequently?

[potent pivot]

it's all a part of getting better man

even the best players there are rn had to start out being garbage when they were new to it

[outer sky]

yeah sometimes

I mean last season was my 1st season doing SS and I got Legend. And I got 2450 in 2s

[potent pivot]

some of them took 2 expansions to get their first glad

[outer sky]

so i think thats pretty good

[potent pivot]

what'd you get in 3s again? 2.3?

[outer sky]

yeah

[potent pivot]

in the least inflated season of the expansion as well that's pretty good

[lime oar]

Hey man I’ve never been over 2k if that makes you feel better. I get performance anxiety as well and I play WAY worse than I do when I’m relaxed in bg’s or wpvp/duels

[jolly sierra]

i think ppl is worse in skirmish

cuz they will blame u from EVERYTHING

[outer sky]

I mean I skirm pretty well I guess

[jolly sierra]

persons says ego is bad but in moderate levels to know u did nothing wrong or could be better is ur shield in that stuff

[plucky escarp]

I played a shuffle once with you starlink and I got anxiety because I thought you would flame me in this chat lol

[outer sky]

howd I do?

[potent pivot]

LOOOOOL

[jolly sierra]

maybe the main problem here are expectactions from another persons

[potent pivot]

no one will ever flame you in here

[plucky escarp]

Umm I think you were 3,4 wins

[potent pivot]

if they do they get the hammer

[plucky escarp]

I think I got 2

[outer sky]

eh not bad

[plucky escarp]

It’s was like, ele and resto sha

[jolly sierra]

the biggest thing could happen here

is being called out

[plucky escarp]

So I was misery

[jolly sierra]

nothing else

[plucky escarp]

Nah I know I was joking I wasn’t worried

Every one is chill here

[jolly sierra]

but starlink, i think your problem is thinking about their povs

[lime oar]

I’ve never pushed too hard though, I hit 1900ish and lose motivation to find teammates

[jolly sierra]

feeling urself inferior

by their expectations

[outer sky]

I'm way too busy scrutinizing my own gameplay to worry about scrutinizing yours lol

[jolly sierra]

if they accepted you was for some reason

and not for pity

i have mglads in my guild and even w them i have no issues and talk normally

[plucky escarp]

I might have the recording. Somewhere. I have all of the games recorded

And I watch them pretty regularly

[jolly sierra]

and are willing to 2s w me and shit

[plucky escarp]

If I ever find it I’ll link it lol

[potent pivot]

yeah i feel like you shouldn't feel that pressured when playing with someone higher XP unless it's their glad push

like

they don't lose much even if you guys lose games

ik you prolly just wanna make a good impression

[outer sky]

bruh I got invited to this one RBG team's hero push during the last week of last season because they were in lfg for like 2 hours and couldnt find a rogue and I was losing my fucking mind. Like, it wasn't even fun.

[potent pivot]

so you can find ppl to do your own glad push

LMAO

[plucky escarp]

I got a 3s team I play with and we can’t get past 2.1k ever, but even if I got glad without them it wouldn’t be the same. It one of the most loyal commitments in my life lol

I think this will be our expac tho

[jolly sierra]

reaching 2k1 consistently is matter of time

for me took like an entire xp to keep that level

[outer sky]

that reminds me of an old joke. one sec let me find it

this but instead of hunting theyre pushing arena rating

[jolly sierra]

and believe me, i dont consider myself good enough compared to most ppl here

but decent enough to keep my own play

[plucky escarp]

Our issue was I was an SV hunter main

Since I started in SL

And I’m not Bicmex

[outer sky]

SV is a lot of fun to play. I wish it was meta more often

wait

I'm an assa rogue

forget I said that

[plucky escarp]

But we’ve played dozens of classes between all of us and landed on SP/Assa/evoker

Yeah I never lost to an assa rogue I felt like lol

Bandage too good

[outer sky]

yeah its hard counter

[plucky escarp]

Especially in 2s

[outer sky]

we might be seeing a lot of assa/spriest this season. I refuse to believe affi lock lasts long in its current state

[plucky escarp]

But I am an assa enjoyer now. I like to play sub but I’m not good at it at all

[outer sky]

idk how theyve dodged nerfs this long

[plucky escarp]

Yeah I think SP and Assa are both really good and not broken

[jolly sierra]

both are not enough for a S tho

[plucky escarp]

My SP buddy is my irl friend too. Our evoker is someone I met in LFG, but hin and I q all the time. Pretty much every day.

[jolly sierra]

compared to DKs and mages

[plucky escarp]

Yeah idk. We tired to just play FOTM when I was detoxing from SV. We just cap out at the same place no matter what. Last season we pretty much only played this comp it and felt so good toward the end.

The cc chain is so obnoxious. Sap > sleep walk or blind > silence. Every opener you get something. You just start with so much pressure

[jolly sierra]

oof

[outer sky]

then stun off that silence lol

into a gouge

[jolly sierra]

ye lol

i really miss MFD dude

[plucky escarp]

Yeah our thing is once you get a cool down it’s like, hold the chain for peel or next dr

[jolly sierra]

why we couldnt get it back

[outer sky]

MfD would be sick with deathstalker

[jolly sierra]

was sick by itself

throw a free insta kidney was disgusting

but i think is mild compared to another shit some guys have rn

like surv cleanse or mage double ice block

OR FERAL FEROCIOUS BITE

[outer sky]

this is the least broken thing about frost mage. them being borderline untouchable is the problem

[jolly sierra]

fkn frosts can easily worth 2 persons as players

with all their skillset

[outer sky]

Aight, the war band is complete!

We got Starlinkgamr the rogue, Monkybizness the monk, and ofc Ovrgrowntegu the evoker

all level 80 and ready to farm

[jolly sierra]

prepare a lift-her-tail the rogue too

[outer sky]

and I guess I'll level Felinebeat if I ever get really bored

[jolly sierra]

or warrior

lol

[outer sky]

the 2 classes I'll never play are warrior and pally

especially pally

but also warrior

[jolly sierra]

then priest

[outer sky]

maybe

[potent pivot]

why lol

playing them will help you understand how they fight

[jolly sierra]

tbh i would never play any caster but lock or dhs

nice already finished in animal crossing

[woven moss]

if youre a good pally you can slump a rogue out i only know how to do such a thing because i know whats coming. mages tho thats a dif story

[jolly sierra]

got the grandpa in the farming

[outer sky]

they just seem unimaginably boring

[jolly sierra]

now ill have a boomer to argue w my another villagers

[woven moss]

lmao he would be so upset to see that dont call him out like that

hes gonna start his own island

[jolly sierra]

i have another wolf which looks like a fashionista who will call him like that 3 times in a day

its perfect

[woven moss]

im dead

[jolly sierra]

its still funny i got as goal looking for a old looking villager to make him argue w ppl

[woven moss]

someones gotta do it

[jolly sierra]

but im done, im back to farm bloodstones

[jolly sierra]

ye