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jolly sierra
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and tracked this

stoic spruce
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Dawww

hollow carbon
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Korthia was so awful, I just did the soul ash farm on several toons for sockets

potent pivot
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lol

jolly sierra
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god dammit

hollow carbon
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Worst experience

jolly sierra
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knaifu just roasts u hard

potent pivot
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my guild didn't require sockets until after that season

stoic spruce
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The shadowy phase of korthia is the worst thing wow has ever had

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What was it called

jolly sierra
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u can reroll it

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imo the worst shit in SL

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was anima

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FUCK I REALLY HATED ANIMA

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specially the items

stoic spruce
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Was Anima tied to power?

jolly sierra
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anima was tied to upgrades, ye i think so

stoic spruce
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Lame

jolly sierra
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the big issue w anima

stoic spruce
jolly sierra
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was it was a VERY big item slot leech for ur bags

stoic spruce
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Dude right??

potent pivot
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i don't remember anima being tied to player power?

stoic spruce
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Wth was that about

potent pivot
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was it something with legendaries

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i don't remember

jolly sierra
stoic spruce
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Ohhhh that's right

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Outside of all the grinding

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SL was fun

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Take the hint blizzard

potent pivot
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i think they did for the most part

jolly sierra
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nah pls dont bring SL ever again blizz ty

potent pivot
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they keep adding more and more QoL

jolly sierra
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worst xp ever played

potent pivot
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like brand new characters starting with 9 charges of the catalyst is amazing

stoic spruce
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Bro read SL and folded

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Ptsd lol

potent pivot
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i liked SL pvp

jolly sierra
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ye

potent pivot
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i liked the raids too

jolly sierra
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fkn hated it

potent pivot
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castle nathria was goated

stoic spruce
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If SL didn't have the grinding you'd have loved it

jolly sierra
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nope

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had sylvanas everywhere

potent pivot
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sylvanas was a terrible fight though

jolly sierra
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i hate fkn sylvanas

stoic spruce
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Was a very sylvanas heavy expac

potent pivot
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sanctum was not that good of a raid

stoic spruce
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I thought it was alright

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I liked sepulcher

jolly sierra
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i was hoping her to be killed in sanctum

potent pivot
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sepulcher was better

jolly sierra
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oh tbh i hated zereth mortis too

potent pivot
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but i didn't like it as much as nathria

stoic spruce
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Why

jolly sierra
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and u know what i hated the most

stoic spruce
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Nathria was great

jolly sierra
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farming items in outdoor

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was disgusting

stoic spruce
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SL but no grinding

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It's fixed

potent pivot
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halondrus is one of my all time favorite fights

stoic spruce
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Bro

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I think about that fight sometimes lol

potent pivot
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i loved it

stoic spruce
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Was so fun

jolly sierra
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shadowlands had very exclusive xmog items tied to VERY rare npcs

potent pivot
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i hated lords of dread and rygolan

stoic spruce
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Rygolan

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Which was that

jolly sierra
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jailer was the most laughable antagonist ever

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fkn shadowlands pls bury forever in the maw ty

potent pivot
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the one with all the little mobs that blow everyone up if they hit the boss

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and also had shadow realm phases

stoic spruce
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Imma have to look this one up

jolly sierra
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imo my best xp overall

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was legion

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i enjoyed every fkn second in that xp

stoic spruce
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Oh yes

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I remember

stoic spruce
potent pivot
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wish i played mop/legion

stoic spruce
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I played a little of legion.

jolly sierra
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suramar was beautiful

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nighthold specially

stoic spruce
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Here's the thing when I rate my wows

jolly sierra
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u literal felt godlike

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with VERY huge numbers

stoic spruce
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I don't take the grinding into account for some reason. So SL is very high for me.

jolly sierra
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probably the best fight ive ever played in game overall was star augur ethraeus

potent pivot
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you gotta take the grinding/player participation into account tho

stoic spruce
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Also DB/Flag/GSW is uncontested best outlaw gaming

potent pivot
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yeah i loved that too ngl

stoic spruce
potent pivot
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some of the legendaries had amazing gameplay

jolly sierra
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look the background from the fight

potent pivot
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like assa with vendetta legendary and exsanguinate

stoic spruce
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Holding BtE for an opportunity proc to delete half a health bar is :chefskiss:

potent pivot
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i wish they didn't get rid of exsang

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everyone hated it but it was so sick

stoic spruce
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Why?

potent pivot
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why what? why everyone hated it?

jolly sierra
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cuz was another button tho

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and ppl is lazy

potent pivot
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it was an extra keybind, it made dots half duration, and it snapshotted your haste

jolly sierra
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also was nerfed hard

stoic spruce
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Now that shadowdance is gone, we can have DB back!

lusty lion
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We did it bois

potent pivot
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we did not do it

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stealth still breaks from a million other things

stoic spruce
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You posted that here as if they listen to pvpers lol

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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Go thank the pve channels

potent pivot
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what

stoic spruce
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Being evil rn

potent pivot
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who do you think told the pve channels

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HMMM

lusty lion
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Negative andys :(

jolly sierra
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF

potent pivot
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i was just being sarcastic

stoic spruce
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Yeah good stuff

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Same

lusty lion
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But are outlaws happy?

stoic spruce
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Yeeeeah

potent pivot
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brother

stoic spruce
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Yes

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No

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Yes

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Yeah

potent pivot
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it's literally linked in the pins lol

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we've seen it xdd

lusty lion
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Oops sroz

stoic spruce
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GET HIM

potent pivot
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no worries :d

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the outlaw nerfs aren't a big deal really

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they unnerfed Ace and Crackshot

lusty lion
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Not a big deal yea, but still... Why

potent pivot
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because outlaw was doing too much damage

lusty lion
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And at the same time assa wat

stoic spruce
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The ace unnerf makes me want to be mean but I'm restraining myself to not be mad until I actually play crackshot again.

potent pivot
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why else would they nerf it

loud ember
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Whats the play for ass in pvp? Do we go Fatebound?

stoic spruce
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Death

potent pivot
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it buffs a lot of abilities and has insane defensives

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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UNNERFED Ace

lusty lion
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It's whatever, I'll take the buffs

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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Trickz

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Meet me outside org

potent pivot
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i'll bring this with me ok

stoic spruce
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I'll suck the dick on that one

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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There's a cricket in my AC and it makes me want to light my office on fire

potent pivot
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lmao

lusty lion
# potent pivot ?

I haven't really played beta so I don't feel confident to make any meaningful comments on these patch notes, for my purposes my specs got a bit of a buff so I won't complain

stoic spruce
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You should complain

potent pivot
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assa ST was below average, so they buffed it's ST

stoic spruce
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Complain about crackshot with me

lusty lion
stoic spruce
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Hmmmm

potent pivot
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expecting them to nerf assa's aoe at some point

stoic spruce
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Lemme thonk

potent pivot
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because it's aoe is just way too bonkers atm

lusty lion
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I mean in a way they buffed aoe with shiv ehehe

potent pivot
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yeah but that doesn't mean much kekdog

stoic spruce
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I had the driest chicken sandwich earlier. They had the warmer too hot and dried out the edges of the chicken patty.

potent pivot
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damn

indigo hill
jolly sierra
stoic spruce
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I had to put strawberry jelly to give the sandwich moisture lol

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Whoaa that's wild

indigo hill
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You sure it wasn't just a plastic hotdog?

jolly sierra
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no, it was crunchy and tasted well

stoic spruce
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Bro said "mmm yummy plastic ๐Ÿ˜‹"

jolly sierra
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was funny, i went to the guy attending

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told him showing a napkin the shit i found

stoic spruce
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Panda

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Favorite weiner

jolly sierra
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the chef was alongside him, he explained me was probably a noodle dropped into the hot dog

stoic spruce
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Go

jolly sierra
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wait

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lemme finish

stoic spruce
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Okay

jolly sierra
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then the guy attending told him to shut up

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and the guy apologized to me

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XD

stoic spruce
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.>

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Amazing

jolly sierra
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favourite weiner? emmm

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idk how to tell it cuz im not north american

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but i really like premium quality hot dog weiners they sells here

stoic spruce
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We know weiners dw

potent pivot
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you can just say what it's called in w/e language

stoic spruce
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Yeah

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We'll know

jolly sierra
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this ones by far

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idk the fkn name

stoic spruce
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Ew chicken?

potent pivot
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Mas grande, mas rica

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lmaoo

jolly sierra
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XDDDDDDDD

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yeye

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tastes well

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ive done a lot of them w kraft mayo

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some american mustard

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ketchup

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and damn

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dont regret anything

potent pivot
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i like just mustard on hotdogs

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with onions n stuff

stoic spruce
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I'm here to save you

potent pivot
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mmm

stoic spruce
jolly sierra
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ppl here bullies me for not liking it w avocado

stoic spruce
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Really?

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I would too

jolly sierra
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here we use avocado, mayo and tomatoes for it

stoic spruce
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So I can't talk

jolly sierra
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im the weirdo

potent pivot
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avocado... on a hot dog?

jolly sierra
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ye

stoic spruce
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It's creamy

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And yummy

potent pivot
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never tried it

stoic spruce
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Try it

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Now

jolly sierra
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look for "completo italiano"

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and try it

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in ur home

potent pivot
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ew noo

stoic spruce
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Yeah bro I'll go look under the couch for "completo italiano"

potent pivot
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mayonnaise noty

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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Yeah but he said in your home like it's hiding somewhere

jolly sierra
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kek

stoic spruce
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That's how I interpreted it

jolly sierra
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i said in his home cuz nobody prepares it in the US tho

potent pivot
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sauerkraut, diced tomatoes, mashed avocado, and mayonnaise

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they do

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pretty sure

stoic spruce
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I do I know for sure

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So that's 1

potent pivot
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i don't do sauekraut either

stoic spruce
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Chilli, onions, sourkraut, cheese, and peppers.

potent pivot
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my favorite is chilli dogs yeah

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onions, chilli, cheese, mustard

jolly sierra
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sauekraut is optional

stoic spruce
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Or if I don't have Chilli, avocado and ditch the sourkraut.

potent pivot
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but i just can't stand mayo on 99% of things

jolly sierra
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they call it italian just because it matches italian flag colors

candid tide
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Which of the hero talent do u guys like so far

potent pivot
jolly sierra
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not because was prepared by italians in the 1st place

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lol

stoic spruce
candid tide
potent pivot
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i hate them all EZ

stoic spruce
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Mayo on a hotdogs always felt weird

jolly sierra
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kraft mayo for me is my favorite

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always use it for hotdogs and fries

candid tide
stoic spruce
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The blue mayo

potent pivot
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only thing i can stand with mayo is chicken/tuna/potato salads

stoic spruce
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I'm not a resident assa player so idk fs

potent pivot
candid tide
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Oh wait we can

potent pivot
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you have 6 seconds to garrote

candid tide
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With the talent

stoic spruce
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Goober

jolly sierra
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if i could think in local traditional food

candid tide
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1.5 gbc wasted

jolly sierra
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would say an empanada w ham and cheese

potent pivot
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huh

stoic spruce
jolly sierra
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but oily, elastic cheese

potent pivot
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ambush still does damage

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i wouldn't call it wasted necessarily

jolly sierra
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fried chicken, hands down

stoic spruce
candid tide
stoic spruce
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Fight me

jolly sierra
stoic spruce
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American and then Muenster

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On a sourdough

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Or brioche

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Mmm

potent pivot
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swiss is pretty nice on burgers ngl

candid tide
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Bk whiskey burger go crazy

stoic spruce
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Swiss is refreshing yeah

stoic spruce
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A what?

potent pivot
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i think i'd like almost any cheese on a burger honestly

candid tide
stoic spruce
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I need a burger king app

candid tide
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I tried five guys 2x in eu, mid asl

potent pivot
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whaaat

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five guys is good asf

stoic spruce
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Five guys isn't fantastic yeah I agree

potent pivot
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maybe it depends on where you are

stoic spruce
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Had it once and it didn't live up to the hype

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Maybe

potent pivot
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every time i've gotten five guys it was like

stoic spruce
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Okay question

candid tide
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Expensive asl too

potent pivot
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5x better than fast food

stoic spruce
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What's the fast food chain with the least amount of varying quality?

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What's the word

candid tide
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Five guys

potent pivot
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chic fil a

stoic spruce
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I'd say taco bell. They've never been above of below mid to me

potent pivot
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the least amount of varying quality means it's either good/mid/bad every time right

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i'd def have to say chic fil a in my experience

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it's always good

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i've had taco bell be terrible a couple times

jolly sierra
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KFC crispy BBQ for me was good af

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sadly was limited edition

potent pivot
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that's just on the workers though

jolly sierra
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but ngl

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was delicious

stoic spruce
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I need the word to convey my point

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I can't think of it

potent pivot
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consistency?

stoic spruce
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Yeahhh

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Consistency

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I wish Dairy Queen was more consistent

potent pivot
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man i used to go to DQ all the time

candid tide
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I wnna try chipotle

potent pivot
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when they had the popcorn shrimp basket

stoic spruce
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A good DQ beats everything else by a country mile.

potent pivot
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chipotle is fire

jolly sierra
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10 years ago when i was younger w like 18 yo i used to eat a lot bbq ruster

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until they retired it from market

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FUCK

potent pivot
jolly sierra
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bbq ruster was cheap af and tasty for the price

stoic spruce
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Yeah good ones are so rare

potent pivot
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the popcorn shrimp basket was fire, but the chicken tenders were mid

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i don't think i ever tried their burgers

candid tide
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Texas bbq prices look like tourist scam

potent pivot
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taco bell's nacho fries are sick

stoic spruce
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Usually

potent pivot
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sonic's mozzarella sticks are usually on point

jolly sierra
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probably a very good experience ive had in fast food chains was in johnny rockets

potent pivot
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BK's onion rings

candid tide
jolly sierra
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lemme recall what burger ive eat there

stoic spruce
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Hot take but mozzarella sticks are mid

potent pivot
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they can definitely be mid

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but some places do them really well

jolly sierra
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was a double smokehouse

potent pivot
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BK mozzarella sticks are mid as fuck

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terrible even

stoic spruce
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I never dared to venture into bk mozzarella sticks lol

jolly sierra
stoic spruce
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Whoa

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That but squished

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I thought I was a weirdo for putting fries on my burger when I was little

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Turns out it's popular

jolly sierra
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yeah

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cant lie

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was delicious

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and just noticed the store is in the city too (i went to capital the 1st time)

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my safe bet and quickie was this one

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sadly is gone

stoic spruce
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Panda

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Wanna hear something wild

jolly sierra
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wut

stoic spruce
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The fish sandwich is McDonalds best item

jolly sierra
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rlly

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they doesnt even have it here

stoic spruce
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Oh really?

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Well apparently no one likes it but it's sales say otherwise

jolly sierra
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and mcdonalds is rn just raided for hello kitty x yugioh collabs happy meal promos anyways

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spoiler

||those shits are lame af in quality||

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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When they did the adult kids meal thing I couldn't stand looking at a McDonalds

potent pivot
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i always thought it was fine

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nothing special, but not bad

jolly sierra
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mcdonalds is pretty bad here ngl

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fries are cheap ass in quality

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cheeseburger is dry af

stoic spruce
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I was addicted to big macs and then naturally a steady diet of big macs and arena spamming made me fat

outer sky
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IMO The only fast food worth a damn is Chick Fil A chicken sandwiches, popeyes chicken tendies, wendys baconators, and checkers burgers.

jolly sierra
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the most decent here from mcdonalds here are ice creams

stoic spruce
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I remember my first big mac

jolly sierra
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wendys have very good burgers too

stoic spruce
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Was in an airport

jolly sierra
stoic spruce
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Wanna trade?

jolly sierra
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emmm

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no ty

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lol

stoic spruce
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I'm not fat now

jolly sierra
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i like my ferret metabolism anyways

stoic spruce
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That was years ago

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I like it too

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Gimme

jolly sierra
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nuh uh

stoic spruce
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:[

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Fine then

jolly sierra
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nice memory

potent pivot
outer sky
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If I'm going to eat a burger from mcdonalds it's going to be their quarter pounder not their big mac

stoic spruce
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I was 11 years old and they didn't have kids meals

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And it was the number 1

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And I chose that because I felt pressure

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(I can't talk to strangers)

jolly sierra
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last KFC promo here was this

they used mozzarella cheese, pepperoni and some pizza ketchup

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was ok, but not that good to try again

outer sky
potent pivot
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i always just order the same shit

stoic spruce
jolly sierra
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but tbh probably will aim for this again next time it spawns

potent pivot
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damn that looks nice

stoic spruce
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We don't have anything that cool where I live

jolly sierra
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indeed

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was nice

stoic spruce
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We're just now getting a taco bell

jolly sierra
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never went to one btw

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lol

outer sky
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I mean just look at this. This isn't a stock photo, I took this Pic myself. THIS is fast food. Like what?? It's so good!

jolly sierra
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here i say

outer sky
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And yes I add bacon

stoic spruce
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Cheese on a chicken sandwich?

jolly sierra
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ye

outer sky
outer sky
stoic spruce
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I agree

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However I can't taste it and it makes it more weird

jolly sierra
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from yesterday

potent pivot
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back in the day when i ordered it i'd get it w/o the cheese always

candid tide
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Mc nuggets >>

potent pivot
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ain't no way

stoic spruce
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Are you 12?

potent pivot
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chic fil a nuggets stomp mcd's

outer sky
stoic spruce
jolly sierra
outer sky
indigo hill
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KFC here doesn't have nuggets. They got chicken popcorn..

stoic spruce
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What is going on in pandaland?

jolly sierra
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lol

stoic spruce
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Uh ohhh

stoic spruce
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Is there a miss panda???

jolly sierra
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emmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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maybe?

outer sky
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Yall remember when KFC stabbed us all in the back and discontinued their potato wedges? I.e the only good thing on their menu

jolly sierra
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XD

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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UH OHHHH

potent pivot
jolly sierra
candid tide
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Dude america got so many food chains fr

outer sky
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A dark day in fast food history

jolly sierra
stoic spruce
jolly sierra
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my life way is to taste it at least once when is available so i dont regret never tasted it in future

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still recall that crispy BBQ was delicious and worth it

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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The jalapeรฑo burger from bk feelsyarrman

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Fly high king

potent pivot
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jalapeno poppers tho

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๐Ÿ”ฅ

jolly sierra
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probably the most disgusting shit ive tasted in a fast food chain were chicken popcorns with honey mustard

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fuck i even tossed the shit to the trash

candid tide
potent pivot
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capitalism PU_ppToiletRocket

jolly sierra
outer sky
stoic spruce
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All this but no JALEPENOS

jolly sierra
outer sky
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Every time I've ever ordered a whopper it's been cold

jolly sierra
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ive tasted them in another food chain and OOF dude was like the powerhouse from the store

outer sky
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I also feel like the whopper's patty to toppings ratio is way off

jolly sierra
outer sky
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All I can taste is the pickles and condiments

jolly sierra
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this one was delicious for me too

outer sky
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These days I just make my own burgers

jolly sierra
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housemade stuff is always a safe bet

outer sky
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And because I grind my own meat, I can cook it medium rare safely

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Love that white cheddar cheese too

jolly sierra
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in youtube w the same friend i talked about showing her the kfc nuggers we watch a russian youtuber which makes A LOT of food

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Vanzai is called

outer sky
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You live in Spain right?

jolly sierra
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dunno how tf but his food looks s+ tier

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in chile, but im from spain

outer sky
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Ah gotcha

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My wife and i almost honeymooned in Spain and Portugal

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But we chose Latvia and Estonia at the last minute

jolly sierra
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oh

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its fine

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well, gotta go sleep here are almost 4 AM

outer sky
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It's almost 4am here too and you don't see me calling it quits

jolly sierra
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bb, u make me hungry w that amount of food talking

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ye, but i didnt slept in last night

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XD

outer sky
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Adios amigo

jolly sierra
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bye starlink, remember to report us lvl 80 pvp later

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we will be aware here

stoic spruce
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Dude

outer sky
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Yessir

stoic spruce
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I'm also a starlink gamer

outer sky
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Nice dude

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I had to take break from the game for over a year because the best internet I should get was viasat. Cost me $300/month and I had a minimum of 650ms with frequent outages and data throttling after 150gb used

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Finally got starlink

stoic spruce
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Bro

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I had to tether my phone to my pc to play

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That shit was ASS

outer sky
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Now I pay $120/month for unlinked, no throttling, 60ms

stoic spruce
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It's sick

outer sky
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Theres no cell reception where I live

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So i need wifi

stoic spruce
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Everytime I use my phone while on my pc, it brings me back to when I couldn't do that because my phone only got service next to the window

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I have yet to take it for granted lol

outer sky
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Where are you located?

stoic spruce
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Northwest Louisiana

outer sky
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I assume the middle of nowhere like me

stoic spruce
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Yeah

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Just trees

outer sky
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Yeah I'm off in some mountain in northeast West Virginia

potent pivot
stoic spruce
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I was on the wait list for a year and a half

potent pivot
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no data throttling that i'm aware of, but the amount of drops is insane

stoic spruce
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Now you can just go to best buy and buy it lol

potent pivot
#

i basically can't play anything during the day

#

the internet will DC every 20-30 minutes

stoic spruce
#

That's so bad

outer sky
stoic spruce
#

All that money into infrastructure and we've yet to see any actual results

#

But I got starlink now. Shoutout to the people that said it wouldn't happen

potent pivot
#

i think i'm going to switch to spectrum

stoic spruce
#

Do ot

#

It

potent pivot
#

they sound way better than this dogshit

stoic spruce
#

What do you have

potent pivot
#

it's kind of a smaller company

stoic spruce
#

Ah

potent pivot
#

really cheap for 600mbps

#

only $50/month

stoic spruce
#

Not bad at all

potent pivot
#

but it's just terrible

stoic spruce
#

Old people internet

outer sky
#

this is my house

potent pivot
#

damn

stoic spruce
#

That's sick

potent pivot
#

looks like paradise right there bud

stoic spruce
#

Mines like that but it's a double wide and it's hot and humid and sucks all the time

outer sky
#

Life isn't super easy here because there's nothing within like a 45 minute drive but I wouldn't trade it for the world

potent pivot
#

that's a ride

stoic spruce
#

I 2nd that

potent pivot
#

but you've got a truck, just buy a months worth of groceries

outer sky
potent pivot
#

that's always nice

#

fishing n shit for your dinner

#

i've done it a few times

outer sky
#

2 or 3 minute walk behind my house on my property is this

potent pivot
#

there was a time i drove 2hr back n forth for work

#

4hr in the car a day

stoic spruce
#

2 or 3 minute walk behind my house is more woods

potent pivot
#

driving to another state

#

shit was insane

outer sky
#

I have about 40

stoic spruce
#

Yeah same. About 37

potent pivot
#

gd

stoic spruce
#

Been passed down forever

outer sky
#

last october i got this guy on my trail cam

stoic spruce
#

Whoa

#

We don't have bears here anymore

#

They're more east

potent pivot
#

supposedly we have panthers out here kekdog

stoic spruce
#

Where are you

potent pivot
#

southeast

stoic spruce
#

Nice

outer sky
#

and then 2 months later we tracked him down, fully CCd him in the tree, and used kill shot to finish him off (not shown in video)

#

Ground him up into sausage

stoic spruce
#

Lmaooo

#

Nice references

#

Bro went /cast Intimidate

potent pivot
#

buddy was rooted irl

outer sky
#

Yeah and no trinket

stoic spruce
#

I like being able to do what I want

#

I go outside to take my morning piss

#

And in the winter and the wind hits your boxers just right...

outer sky
#

Yeah I piss outside just because I can, too

#

hey @potent pivot are todays rogue changes also on beta? If so I might queue a couple SS on beta just to see how kingsbane feels

potent pivot
#

some people were speculating the beta already had these changes

#

and they were just pushed to live

#

but if so then these changes were never datamined or covered anywhere so idk about that

#

they also might not even be live yet

#

there's really no telling unless you go hit a dummy and can tell a difference unforch

stoic spruce
#

Are people still playing hardcore?

potent pivot
#

i think some people are

#

there's some content creators working on making a guild with a special solo self found addon

#

but they're only going to invite other content creators so they know that everyone is following the SSF rules

outer sky
potent pivot
#

like i know they've done some 'stealth nerfs' that weren't covered anywhere, like when they nerfed Darkest Night

outer sky
#

oh, I know how to tell

potent pivot
#

but someone would've noticed the tooltip in pvp or something

outer sky
#

I'll just queue a skirm and mouse over crackshot

#

if it says dispatch at 50% then nothing changed

potent pivot
#

you can just hit a pvp dummy

#

and mouseover

outer sky
#

oh ye

#

nope changes arent on beta yet

potent pivot
#

yeah maybe they thought it'd be redundant

#

i'm sure they've gotten all the data they needed

#

or maybe the changes aren't on live yet either and they're coming with the next time the servers go down

outer sky
#

Kingsbane could probably use another 5% buff

#

Maybe another 5% on garrote too

#

LOL I'm so fucking biased

potent pivot
#

garrote is the last spell that needs a buff lmao

#

i'm still hoping we see more ST buffs

#

i really wish they'd buff ambush by at least 20%

#

i just really want to play blindside again

outer sky
#

time to find out if the buffs are on live or not

#

nope

#

not live either

potent pivot
#

wouldn't surprised me

#

i would assume they'll be in Monday or Tuesday at the latest

#

unless servers go down before then for some reason

harsh kiln
#

is the beta down now?

outer sky
#

no

harsh kiln
#

you're right my pc was just extremely slow

#

got stuck on loading realms forever.

orchid temple
#

Anyone here with opinions on optimal keybinds?

Specifically I'm wanting to know about targeting (I currently use mouse wheel w/ shift modifier for focus and ctrl modifier for party, but seem to panic when needing to cross CC and find it difficult to work with) and whether abilities like Shadow Dance shouldn't be on e.g. a shift modifier as you need it quickly?

potent pivot
#

keybinds are a very personal thing

#

some people only use focus macros, some people use full on arena123 targeting, or just arena123 on certain abilities

candid tide
#

the a123 users are mad skilled

#

but imo targetting is kinda ez with modern day wow

proud vortex
#

How does arena 123 work? Always used focus macros

candid tide
#

very smooth

candid tide
#

u macro it to like gouge arena 1 for numeric key 1

#

pressing shift u gouge arena target 2

#

modify ctrl u targert arena 3

#

idk know how these people can keep up with who is a123 during all that chaos during arena pvp

lusty lion
candid tide
#

so much to process smh

lusty lion
candid tide
lusty lion
candid tide
lusty lion
#

It'd quite a lot to process for sure, but once your eyes kind of get in a habit/workflow it gets more and more automated

lusty lion
lusty lion
#

I used to main healer so it's basically a different game being a dps AND melee

marble crag
#

not critizism curiously asking as i must be missing some pro hack

lusty lion
#

Well it's faster if you're used to it

candid tide
lusty lion
#

And 1 input instead of 2 (if I understand you correctly), more flexibility as well

candid tide
#

but thats what im saying, thats like no problem at all with rog, not sure if we really lose that much down time on dmging with the rog

marble crag
#

yes but you still need to remember 3 more buttons for each ability to focus ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

#

one question how will focus work on blitz? or there wont be? you cant possibly focus quickly 8 ppl

#

for now im not using focus at all as its all very situtaitonsl and random but i do miss it in big fights when i need to focus someone quick

#

for a blind

lusty lion
marble crag
#

yes i guess

lusty lion
#

You don't focus in that case btw

candid tide
#

yeah maybe at 3k+ rating mili seconds matter whether win or lose

marble crag
#

were focus introduced later on so some people are used to 123?

pearl dune
#

Any good world pvp yet? Ive had warmode on and havent seen a single opposing faction

lusty lion
#

I can keep dpsing my kill target and not change my target when press blind a2 (if that's the healer)

marble crag
#

i dont think wpvp will kick off until full release and ppl can get all greens at least. Also nobody wants to gank or be ganked while leveling

#

i hope they have added something new for wpvp other than the supply chest but i fear they have not

pearl dune
#

I want to ruin somebodys experience

lusty lion
marble crag
#

hahahaha

#

i lnow the feeling i do that as well for roleplay sometimes but i feel bad about it

lusty lion
marble crag
#

and i only do it when in bored which wont be when im leveling hehe

marble crag
#

it gets boring after a while ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

I think they will eventually add pvp events like in SoD one of the devs hinted at

#

I cant wait

last jasper
dapper chasm
#

Did they break Subterfuge cancelling?

potent pivot
#

it is tho

#

just checked kekdog

wintry dew
#

nice :3

potent pivot
#

i just remember seeing this at the top of the page

wintry dew
#

i actually had this on ctrl-v

#

" Some of the hotfixes below take effect the moment they were implemented, while others may require scheduled realm restarts to go into effect."

potent pivot
#

and i don't think the pvp tuning is in effect yet

dapper chasm
wintry dew
#

Thats the only thing they fixed

dapper chasm
#

Ah, the blizzard fix

potent pivot
#

yeah cancelaura doesn't work on subt

#

but why would you want to cancel it

dapper chasm
#

I really don't like Subterfuge

#

I hate the fact it last forever now

#

Sometimes I want to dance seconds after the opener, but now I can't

dapper chasm
#

You don't understand

#

My Shadowdance bind is cheap shot during stealth

potent pivot
#

oof

dapper chasm
#

Not oof at all in a world without subterfuge

potent pivot
#

why would you do that to yourself xdd

dapper chasm
#

IT DIDN'T USED TO BE A THING

#

Or at least, a thing people picked

#

No, you wont convince me that this is a me problem

#

NoTrickz, just another Blizzard shill trying to keep the man down- plus you have a Z in your name, so pretentious

potent pivot
#

what

dapper chasm
#

FINE, I'll look at changing the bind

potent pivot
#

all my binds in and out of stealth gotta be the same

#

it fucks with my brain if not

dapper chasm
#

I'm mostly the same

#

But backstab-ambush, dance-cheapshot

#

Oh, and evis-sap

#

I used to do fan of knives - cheap shot, but there were times I wanted to fan during dance/sub

#

So I moved it over to dance - cheapshot

potent pivot
#

so you can't press evis in stealth

#

?

cinder elm
#

do u drop ic when ur not against pet heavy comps

#

feel like its kinda wasted

#

and bone spike does decent dam

potent pivot
#

you can drop IC vs SOME caster comps that usually stay really spread

cinder elm
#

also is there a reason that gouge doesnt clear debuffs like blind or poly does

#

is that juust smth u learn over time

potent pivot
#

blind is a disorient

cinder elm
#

is poly also an incap?

potent pivot
#

yeh

#

gouge/sap/poly

#

some classes have talents that n shit that let their incapped target take some damage iirc

#

like DH imprison

cinder elm
#

ok but doesnt poly clear my bleeds too

#

or is that wrong

#

swear i hear pvpers complaining about mages polying dm off or smth

potent pivot
#

yeah i'm not sure where their logic is behind what clears and what doesn't

#

maybe it's just because it's mage's main CC ability i have no idea tbh

cinder elm
#

ok good its just a learn as u go thing

stoic spruce
#

RAHHHH A WILD POPO APPEARS

#

Any 80s yet?

cinder elm
#

i do wish the wowhead dr page was updated

#

2022 is kinda oldge

last jasper
stoic spruce
#

So close

#

HURRY

last jasper
potent pivot
#

pvp doesn't have a lot of people that do volunteer work for the community because the pvp community in general is pretty small compared to pve

cinder elm
potent pivot
#

and idk if wowhead even has pvp writers

stoic spruce
#

Nope :)

cinder elm
#

yah i was thinking gladius big pvp addon, surely updated, but nah not since jan 24 lol

#

its all fan stuff

stoic spruce
#

They're all written by pvers who get info from their respective pvp channel of their discord

last jasper
cinder elm
#

its feb 22

stoic spruce
#

Or they copy paste.

#

Or they go "yeah this looks like it could work"

cinder elm
#

im using sarena now

#

by uh

#

sammers

#

only one i could find

potent pivot
#

you have to get the bicmex version of gladius iirc

#

nope

#

you don't even have to do that

last jasper
# cinder elm
Warcraft Wiki

Diminishing returns means that certain spells and abilities become less effective against a target if used frequently within a short period of time. While diminishing returns mostly applies to player characters, some abilities also have diminishing returns in PvE. The tables below contains a list of abilities that are affected by DR, and under w...

potent pivot
#

oh it says 1/29/24

#

well shit

cinder elm
#

yah jan 24 kek

potent pivot
#

the bicmex version it is

#

prolly doesn't work for TWW yet

cinder elm
#

i like sarena tbh, the legacy style is nice

potent pivot
#

i can't stand it

cinder elm
#

gladius didnt even display for me when i tried it

potent pivot
#

that was last updated in 2020

last jasper
#

It is in the list

cinder elm
#

is wiki gg fandom rebranded or what

last jasper
#

Idk. First link in Google

cinder elm
#

yah evoker is on there

last jasper
#

I used to look in it sometimes

grave basin
#

any other dad gamers still at 71

#

finally sent the kids and wife to mother in laws house

#

holy shit im free

halcyon timber
#

Yeh boy

potent pivot
#

ig i scrolled through to the update date too quickly

wintry dew
#

idk what you talking about, game isnt released yet kekdog

halcyon timber
#

Yeh sleep walk is a disorient but โ€œcanโ€ take some dmg to break (if not on the list the boys found)

surreal barn
#

Are dungeons the play for leveling

last jasper
surreal barn
#

I had too much work yesterday ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

last jasper
surreal barn
#

Thanks

last jasper
#

Q time can be long (10min). On eu at least

potent pivot
#

the dungeons feel buggy af

#

and isn't the campaign required on your first toon?

last jasper
spring bough
#

To unlock the first dungeon too

potent pivot
#

and the bird boss would keep getting stuck in mid

#

mobs evading from weird pathing

spring bough
#

Do you have that action prio targeting setting enabled somehow?

potent pivot
#

multiple things

last jasper
potent pivot
#

the delve i did was fine

spring bough
#

It wouldnโ€™t let me Que till I did that follower dungeon quest lol

last jasper
spring bough
#

So I realized I couldnโ€™t get ques at 78/79 last night cause they set you up with similar levels. Second I hit 80 and qued it instantly popped lol

#

Just gotta find one group and all get to 80 at the same time lol

potent pivot
#

i was in a dungeon at 71 with 80s

spring bough
#

I musta got boned then lmao

#

So in twin peaks last night. I did FC as outlaw. With these double grips I must have crossed this map in like 20 seconds lol

#

Outlaw gotta be one of the fastest specs

potent pivot
#

apparently due to the wonky scaling it's better to q with a lower level

#

because they will do way more damage than a higher level

spring bough
#

From then on it was smaller packs but still decent size

last jasper
#

jesus, thor is streaming for 15h straight ๐Ÿ˜„

potent pivot
#

the hero talents are so boring

#

that i literally forgot to start speccing them

spring bough
#

You should try outlaw and see fatebound coin (tails) top dmg everytime lol

#

Going to annihilate some dungeons later canโ€™t wait lol

rain crown
#

What are
People having more fun with rn

#

Between the rogue specs

potent pivot
#

i've been switching between em

#

started as outlaw, on sub now

#

grappling hook is nice for world content

spring bough
#

Yeah when u donโ€™t throw it across something and then lose the hook ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

One lil thing in the chain path and itโ€™s over lol

#

The one bug they will never fix ๐Ÿ˜ญ

cinder elm
#

i just made such a good bug report on it

#

with a link to a video of a place to easily reproduce it

#

now we just wait unitil 12.0 drops and we should be good

potent pivot
spring bough
#

Like if ur going up a hill and thereโ€™s a bump and the chain goes thru that to its ending point you donโ€™t go anywhere lol

potent pivot
#

yeah ik

#

just hasn't happened to me in a while

#

maybe i place hooks unconsciously knowing it

spring bough
#

I just send it and let it fly lol

last jasper
#

My watch has ended

dapper chasm
#

Why would you ever evis in stealth?

last jasper
spring bough
#

Iโ€™m about to play the hell out of delves later. Can get up to 603ilvl from it lol

potent pivot
#

because i think you can only do tier 3 delves atm

spring bough
#

Ah then Iโ€™m playing the hell outta tier 3 ones lol

#

I got an explorer wep yesterday gotta max it out too ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

Yall running delves with healer or dps?

last jasper
#

healer

last jasper
spring bough
last jasper
#

Good question ๐Ÿ˜„

potent pivot
#

yes

#

you get WQs after completing the campaign

#

and you unlock the adventure track for alts

last jasper
#

damn. shot myself in the foot

spring bough
#

Time to complete the campaign ๐Ÿ˜‚

potent pivot
lucid citrus
#

lol tricks that will occasionally turn you into a curse drawf, itโ€™s funny

potent pivot
#

i was half hoping it was a profession item

spring bough
#

Iโ€™m about to pickup mining cause the delve zones have nodes

last jasper
#

lmao. my lvl 70 rogue vs 78-79

vocal surge
#

Usual level scaling

potent pivot
#

yeah that's pretty typical

potent pivot
vocal surge
#

Unless conq uncapped

#

PvE items on avg outscale early full blue pvp gear

potent pivot
#

you realize you're not supposed to have that right

vocal surge
#

Really?

#

It's from farming rep

#

And rares drop rep

potent pivot
#

oh is it

vocal surge
#

Yeah

potent pivot
#

i thought you were exploiting m+

vocal surge
#

Lol

#

I could get ilvl 603 items if I sat down and just no life rep farm

potent pivot
#

people are exploiting a bug that gives 597 loot from m+

vocal surge
#

Rn in TWW?

potent pivot
#

yeah

wintry dew
#

And I hope they get banned

vocal surge
#

It's just m0s

potent pivot
#

2s

vocal surge
#

Wtf

wintry dew
#

DF m+ is still active

potent pivot
#

so rep giving that much ilvl before monday is prolly an oversight as well

#

i'd imagine?

vocal surge
#

It's the same as early DF

potent pivot
#

not saying you're exploiting

vocal surge
#

If your thinking ilvl wise

potent pivot
#

yeah ik

#

but they turned down everything til monday

#

so that people wouldn't feel so behind

vocal surge
#

There is an active event rn

#

Giving ~1/5 a factions renown rep every hr

potent pivot
#

then maybe they said fuck it lol

lime oar
#

What ilvl does the honor gear scale to for pvp?

vocal surge
#

PvP gear vendors aren't out yet

potent pivot
#

prolly like 611?

vocal surge
#

Prob best to look at Beta lol

#

Prob 626

#

Since 639 is cap

lime oar
#

Yeah I assumed someone knew from beta or something

potent pivot
#

no1 really looks at honor gear on beta

last jasper
#

the scalling is really stupid. tankin the whole dung

potent pivot
#

you just get full conq gear for free

lime oar
#

I know that

#

Still useful to know itโ€™s pointless to farm pve gear

vocal surge
potent pivot
vocal surge
#

It is

potent pivot
#

damn

#

i prolly won't cap for hours

#

trying to just finish campaign

vocal surge
#

Lvling in DF, I used to pull entire dungeon wings in 1 go w. Boss

#

And AOE em down

potent pivot
#

and i've got 2 full zones left

vocal surge
#

Haven't even finished Hallowfall lol

#

And I'm 80

potent pivot
#

then i've also gotta do dungeons because campaign won't cap me

vocal surge
#

I've been doing all the side quests

potent pivot
#

but you have the event unlocked?

vocal surge
#

Yea

potent pivot
#

thought you had to finish campaign just for WQs

vocal surge
#

Not yet

last jasper
potent pivot
#

your armor is still scaled way higher the lower level you are

#

you do more damage

#

the mobs are lower level for you

#

etc

potent pivot
vocal surge
#

I haven't finished the entire campaign lol

lucid citrus
#

Yeah i donโ€™t think you can do world quest until you finish the campaign??

vocal surge
#

I just grinded from lvl 53 to 80 in 1 sitting

potent pivot
#

and you've got WQs unlocked?

#

or just the event you're talking about

vocal surge
#

Event auto unlocks at lvl 80

#

It's like feasts, or hunts

potent pivot
#

ic

#

yeayea

vocal surge
#

Or dragon keep

potent pivot
#

idk why i care i don't need to waste my time with it LMAO

#

i need to level alts

#

just curious i guess

#

i'm so behind

#

people have been making millions of gold/hr

last jasper
potent pivot