pvp

[jolly sierra]

me win

[stoic spruce]

nuh uh, theyre suppose to be yellowish at the bottom

me winner

[potent pivot]

[stoic spruce]

I dont speak WRONG

[jolly sierra]

nuh uh its on the top too

[stoic spruce]

thats obvioulsy a yellow-green

still no decay

gg go next

[jolly sierra]

excuses

[stoic spruce]

is it an excuse when its a FACT?

[jolly sierra]

yeh uh

its still yellow

[stoic spruce]

my new excuse is no matter what you say, im right

[jolly sierra]

if u say im right then ill say me win

[stoic spruce]

but youre not

and I have a hard time lying

[jolly sierra]

u said im right just now

so

me win

[stoic spruce]

buddy youre just SoL okay?

[jolly sierra]

i played SS till like 3 days ago

[stoic spruce]

your word salad means nothing because I dont eat veggies

[jolly sierra]

left at 2k1 to still getting gear

[stoic spruce]

bros at 2.1k and still aint got gear smh

[jolly sierra]

yeah i dont rely too much this time

played with like 3 purples

[stoic spruce]

my headset is being shaken rn

all this being so attractive and correct all the time is making me sleepy

winning is so exhausting

[jolly sierra]

god here we have a guy which does the same, w appearance

its ugly af with a skin almost decaying and just cover his appearance with filters

[stoic spruce]

really?

I heard it was a female panda that disarms mages

hm

how weird

[jolly sierra]

nah the guy has kidney issues

and was slim af

[stoic spruce]

may have been because of me

[jolly sierra]

my pee pee its clear

[stoic spruce]

for now

[jolly sierra]

u cant do that damage if u are not assa

so not bleeding

[stoic spruce]

youre about to get a ball of lead when I get ahold of ya

[jolly sierra]

how

u cant cause bleedings

[stoic spruce]

you wont even see it coming

[jolly sierra]

fake rog mov

[stoic spruce]

theres no honor among thieves

[jolly sierra]

rogs goes w knives

not guns

[halcyon timber]

The Outlaw who invented between the eyes during the second war, colorized 1613.

[stoic spruce]

rogues dont care about rules

youre a fake rogue my guy

[jolly sierra]

how

if i use daggers and poison ppl

[stoic spruce]

what kind of rogue doesnt deviate?

look at this chaotic lawful rogue everyone

bro goes by the book lolol

he goes by

the law

well im above the law

im an outlaw

[jolly sierra]

im chaotic neutral in dnd

XD

bruh just did a ben shapiro

[stoic spruce]

the always mark me as DnD, Did Not Die

because I cant die

[jolly sierra]

see cant defend himself

[gleaming pawn]

[jolly sierra]

me win

and me float

bye

[gleaming pawn]

Todays chat

This is @wintry dew fault

[stoic spruce]

brother I float like a butterfly

you aint got nuthin on me

[wintry dew]

I'm not even here how is it my fault xD

[stoic spruce]

they call him royal because he is a royal spy undercover as a rogue

[gleaming pawn]

They’ve been going back and forth on Mog!

[stoic spruce]

fake rogue

[wintry dew]

Thats an amazing topic to be honest

[gleaming pawn]

True

[stoic spruce]

I can keep this up all day bucko

you

will

not

win

[wintry dew]

I have a tmog using thise set that ISNT a full set btw

[stoic spruce]

THATS NOT THE FULL SET HEATHEN

RAHHHH

[gleaming pawn]

Anything over 3 pieces is full set!

[stoic spruce]

I'LL SEE YOU IN THE ARENA

[gleaming pawn]

Do you even mog bro

[stoic spruce]

I'm the greatest mogger this game has ever known

[gleaming pawn]

Maybe I’ll submit my humble mog to Royal’s judgement when I get home tonight. It’s a simple one but I am happy with it

[stoic spruce]

Panda had to vanish and reset because my sustained uptime was too high

[potent pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-shit-posting-shitpost-gif-13167152

[stoic spruce]

youre too easy

[stoic spruce]

nope

good try tho

watch

and

learn

[wintry dew]

How you feelin, looking over a chat filled with 14 y'o grown men? xD

[stoic spruce]

points deducted because drakthyr on my screen

[wintry dew]

fair enough

[stoic spruce]

age is a mindset

[potent pivot]

all the heavily unrelated to pvp chat is rotting my brain

[wintry dew]

Men don't grow up, they grow old. Fight me

[stoic spruce]

well make pvp worth talking about

[stoic spruce]

i am literally right now

youre about to lose in a minute also

[wintry dew]

I can't do this on #transmog or @heady swift wipes the entire channel xD

[gleaming pawn]

I wish there was actually anything to talk about in PvP. It’s been the same shit for years I swear

[potent pivot]

could discuss things coming in tww

[gleaming pawn]

3 or more people ask what X rotation is daily, what to buy first, X is op, etc

[wintry dew]

Yeaaah but stuff still in alpha and we actually talked about it yesterday. a lot of dooming

people love to doom

they should reroll warlocks

[potent pivot]

that's part of why the channel exists ngl :dd

[gleaming pawn]

Without Deathstalker, I fear there is nothing to talk about out. Feintster and Fatebound are both big lame

[stoic spruce]

dooming comes free with your wow sub

[gleaming pawn]

Pfft that’s what pins and guides are for imo

[wintry dew]

And do you think those are enough for @harsh steppe to learn!?

You need a PhD to teach him!

[gleaming pawn]

Actually shocked Hyper hasn’t asked for a build review in a while

Is he still alive even

[wintry dew]

Might be asleep

he's NA

[stoic spruce]

equal parts sinister and the other thing

[potent pivot]

i don't really like the idea of posting up rotations for pvp

[wintry dew]

BECAUSE ITS NOT PVE RIGHT

Everything in PvP is situational

EVERYTHING

[snow wyvern]

Hey i am just curious, I am currently seeing on Murlok.IO that most Assass Rogues do not go for 4 set

[potent pivot]

ye

[snow wyvern]

they got for the 2 set bonus

[stoic spruce]

pooopy

[wintry dew]

correct, 2 set. you do not spam envenoms

therefore low value

[stoic spruce]

GARBO RAHHHH

[snow wyvern]

Okay thank you i am going to be trying assas soon

[wintry dew]

you need to envenom TWICE to gain the 4set bonus ONCE

[potent pivot]

and idk how people are still asking what to buy first with conquest

[stoic spruce]

couldnt be me

[snow wyvern]

Ah okay i see

[potent pivot]

like isn't the same for every spec in the game

[stoic spruce]

thats it

[potent pivot]

since tbc

[stoic spruce]

thats the pvp conversations these days

[wintry dew]

^

[stoic spruce]

over as soon as it starts lol

[wintry dew]

It gets to a point where there's nothing else to talk

so we review Hyper's macros

[stoic spruce]

peak pvp channel

[gleaming pawn]

Exactly

[surreal barn]

Sub getting a shadow arrow that functions like grappling hook

You appear where the arrow lands

[stoic spruce]

Zeiss no

[wintry dew]

actually... keep cooking.

[stoic spruce]

they took dreadblades

NO

GET OUT THE KITCHEN

[gleaming pawn]

And I still see countless rogues out in the wild that bought double conq daggers. I just shake my head and murder them

[wintry dew]

Tbf there's a thing Vanguards does that i find pretty cool

He puts up a list on "what to do and buy the first weeks"

[jolly sierra]

camp them hard

[stoic spruce]

Losing? Yeah I figured youd like that.

[wintry dew]

no more questions asked

[stoic spruce]

oh I thought you meant the comp idk why

[wintry dew]

Nah the paladin OG

[gleaming pawn]

Just make Shadowstep actually step you through the shadows to either your target or teleport to your reticle

[stoic spruce]

what if youre in the desert in the middle of the day?

[potent pivot]

yeah there's usually a general thing like that made for all classes across the board

like farm x/x/x currencies and craft x/x/x

[wintry dew]

Exactly!

Maybe Trickz, for TWW we just put one of those up and just do like the other channels: Check the pins

[potent pivot]

like iirc in season 1 of DF there was a jpeg that was shared around, was like a quick guide to the new currencies etc

[potent pivot]

the biggest issue i've run into is that pvp information is reactive

whereas pve information and TC can mostly be done proactively

[wintry dew]

But, as you said, theres info that hanst changed since TBC

[gleaming pawn]

Buying the weapon first, then going for set is pretty set in stone though

[potent pivot]

yeah but i'm not gonna pin what order to spend conquest in lol

i could make a command ig

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Haste=/=Crit
Outlaw: Vers>Crit>Haste>Mastery

[surreal barn]

How you gear is a bit less relevant than what stat weights you should aim for

[stoic spruce]

use vague words like "generally" and "usually"

[gleaming pawn]

Now, how many pieces of the set isn’t solidified for us for a while

[potent pivot]

i'm never going to tell someone the exact amount of a stat to go for

[surreal barn]

True, but I’d rather tell someone that than every pc of gear in order to get

I guess gear will be easier to guess in TWW without vault

[wintry dew]

maybe

[stoic spruce]

but you can give a ballpark estimate

[potent pivot]

i mean if you tell someone the exact stat %'s to go for you may as well effectively tell them every piece of gear to buy specifically

i really don't think anyone ever truly know the perfectly optimal stat set up for pvp

[surreal barn]

More like a range, like I honestly didn’t know how low I should go on versa this season

[potent pivot]

it's all feel craft

can ask 3 different players from the top of the ladder and you'll get 3 different answers usually

[surreal barn]

Well it ain’t 40 like I had 😂

[stoic spruce]

its 41 actually

I lied

its 42

[gleaming pawn]

Vers is good, vers is life

[wintry dew]

No

Resilience

[jolly sierra]

pvp power

[wintry dew]

👴

[stoic spruce]

been playing wow for 9 hours

still cant get in a key

[wintry dew]

PvP power was mop right?

[jolly sierra]

yep

[gleaming pawn]

That explains why you’re unhinged this morning

[jolly sierra]

🐼

[stoic spruce]

teehee

[wintry dew]

Hot take:

[stoic spruce]

go on

[wintry dew]

Panda is the hottest panda in the channel

https://tenor.com/view/change-my-mind-gif-11630051

[stoic spruce]

I mean

[jolly sierra]

i know

[stoic spruce]

have you SEEN the full photo?

I have

THE photo

Panda knows

[wintry dew]

I mean

Panda wins by default

[stoic spruce]

erm

lets just say

<.<

.>

clvge

[wintry dew]

👀

[stoic spruce]

👀

[surreal barn]

When I see your avatar

[jolly sierra]

XDDDDDD

im a little douchy too

[surreal barn]

You have a little whoopi in you

[jolly sierra]

seems like

[wintry dew]

Also

Did you guys started doing your personal tabards yet?

[stoic spruce]

you think she'd like me? 👉👈🥺

[jolly sierra]

SHIT

FORGOT BOUT THEM

GOTTA GO NOW

[stoic spruce]

how do you do that?

[wintry dew]

#transmog message

^

Your boy Royal made a quick PIN about it

[stoic spruce]

ugh I gotta talk to that freak?

nvm

[wintry dew]

[gleaming pawn]

Not a fan of tabards, they don’t fit with leather mog very well

[wintry dew]

that's the best i could do

but the armor being from 2005 helped

[surreal barn]

Does it work on the shirts

[stoic spruce]

are the designs still the same?

[wintry dew]

yes

[surreal barn]

Kinda like the guild shirts

Nice.

[wintry dew]

no

[stoic spruce]

what da heyell

[wintry dew]

YES to @stoic spruce
NO to @surreal barn

[stoic spruce]

RAHHH

I KNEW

[wintry dew]

Just like guild tabards

stuck in vanilla

[stoic spruce]

So what youre saying is

youre gonna gimme all yer loot

[wintry dew]

Best i can do is 5 bucks

[stoic spruce]

bro I need my pirate mog back

[wintry dew]

do it

[tranquil jay]

balanced rite?

[wintry dew]

buff UDK

[stoic spruce]

no that dk is too low

dang I dont have a dagger that matches

[jolly sierra]

t3 gang

[wintry dew]

My boy 😎

[jolly sierra]

[stoic spruce]

well the pirate mog is doa now

I dont have a good enough dagger :/

I lied

day is saved

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

he looks like how Old Spice body spray smells

eyes itch

still cant get into a key

chat should I keep playing for push to find a key?

omg chat I did it

never mind :(

I JUST WANT TO DO ONE +2

THERES SO MANY DEMON HUNTERS

[gleaming pawn]

Start your own group

[stoic spruce]

I got a group

after soooo many hours

Im not doing NO

yes I would rather wait 6 hours than run NO

[gleaming pawn]

Also also, why not just equip dreadblades mog on the dagger too like a real Outlaw

[stoic spruce]

because you stink and youre stinky

[gleaming pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[stoic spruce]

yeah I went there

[wintry dew]

~Popo

How many coffees have you drank today?

[stoic spruce]

two pots why

[wintry dew]

you're roleplaying hyper

https://tenor.com/view/baby-excited-wild-gif-11958046

[stoic spruce]

nuh uh

dude

duuuude

Royal

I cant wait for tww

[wintry dew]

Same my dood

Tired of dragons

and tired of power of friendship

[gleaming pawn]

I can’t wait for Deathstalker, so that we might finally ascend in our doomin

[stoic spruce]

this build is gonna be sooo good I can almost taste it

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[wintry dew]

Killing spree will gain from mastery increases?

[stoic spruce]

nope

but GSW will

[wintry dew]

ooooh

[gleaming pawn]

GSW doesn’t proc MG

[stoic spruce]

other way around

hold on let me slow down my thought process and actually think

[surreal barn]

Off early on a Friday

[gleaming pawn]

Mastery is just doing more damage, and GSW won’t have any direct increases from it

[surreal barn]

Mythic running time

[stoic spruce]

not direct

indirect

[gleaming pawn]

Ah

[stoic spruce]

in a convoluted way

theres like

a middle man

yklnow

[wintry dew]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[gleaming pawn]

Wasn’t there something somewhere that Killing Spree proc’d MG? Or am I remembering something totally wrong

[stoic spruce]

I cant think straight atm anyway

wait wait

explain something

Our mastery has no direct effect on SS?

brain foggy

[gleaming pawn]

That depends

Because I don’t remember if SS counts as a main hand attack or not

Or if it’s all just based on MH autos

[stoic spruce]

hmmmmmmmm

could we take off the off-hand weapon and see?

is that how that works?

[gleaming pawn]

But I recall Spree can proc MG because of the attacks from your MH

Yeah you could science it. Use a macro to cast SS and disable auto attack

See how many times your proc MG

[stoic spruce]

how would that macro look?

[gleaming pawn]

/cast Sinister Strike
/stopattack

Maybe add another stop attack before the sinister strike too just to be safe

[gleaming pawn]

Looks like SS counts then

And by extension, Ambush

[stoic spruce]

okay so GSW is indirectly effected by mastery

kinda

this is really grey

[wintry dew]

you're grey

[stoic spruce]

nuh UH

im a shaman now

[gleaming pawn]

Well GSW’s extra pistol shot won’t do more damage because of Mastery, but the MH attacks that are procing pistol shots will do more damage when they proc MG as well

[stoic spruce]

roight

which is what I was trying to think of saying

[gleaming pawn]

lol

PvE has fried you today Popo

[stoic spruce]

oh my its 1:20pm and I havent went to sleep yet

I need to sleep my fix schedule

I NEED TO FIX MY SLEEP SCHEDULE

whats one more key

[gleaming pawn]

[stoic spruce]

my vault is looking hella sparse

[gleaming pawn]

Gotta get in them Blitz for the free pvp row

[stoic spruce]

that gives honor gear no?

[gleaming pawn]

Nah you get conq for a win

And honor gained counts towards the pvp vault row now

For more conq gear

[stoic spruce]

so honor I get from blitz gives me conq gear in the vault?

NOT NOW JONNIE

[pliant mauve]

lol it’s literally written write there on the screenshot

[stoic spruce]

WHERE DOES IT SPECIFY CONQ AND HONOR GEAR JONNIE

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTHATSRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

||it doesnt||

outlaw>sleep

Jonnie I stg the next words you post better be music to my ears

eyes

wheres panda

I feel belligerent lol

[gleaming pawn]

lol

Pandaaaaaaa @jolly sierra you’re being paged

[stoic spruce]

come here

[jolly sierra]

what happened

[stoic spruce]

panda

[jolly sierra]

what

[stoic spruce]

go away

GOTTEM

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[stoic spruce]

no but forreal

lemme show you something

[jolly sierra]

huh

[stoic spruce]

wait

hold on im cooking

nope

no I burnt it

what ar eyou doing up

lets run a key

[jolly sierra]

im european

[stoic spruce]

I dont care if youve been peein

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[gleaming pawn]

He’s dun lost his mind today

[stoic spruce]

naw

I feel great

[jolly sierra]

ye

lol

[stoic spruce]

im a shaman now

[jolly sierra]

that is the price of being undead

[stoic spruce]

im more alive then youll EVER be

theres something in my eyes

dude I should play this build in pvp

without 4pc

Panda can you get me 4pc plz

I messed up earlier

this isnt tier :(

[jolly sierra]

kek

[stoic spruce]

theres gonna be some stupid fury warr with ashkundur andand the leggo with the fire ring causing all sorts of issues

its time

it uh

did not go well

alriiiight 12 hours of wow is over

[outer sky]

Anyone else's arena lfg still fucked?

[last jasper]

jesus I hate this game

[wintry dew]

same

[jolly sierra]

same

[stoic spruce]

Same

[sick wasp]

Anyone seen how echo destroyed Kasu's junglecleave?

absolutely insane cc chains on that priest

never played the game last match

[outer sky]

against ret/hpriest we go the ret, right?

[stoic spruce]

Yes

[quaint cedar]

Incoming rogue nerfs
Outlaw rogues can no longer equip two weapons
Sin rogues lose cloak of shadows
-10% more evis damage for sub just for good measure

[vital socket]

just remove evis

[sick wasp]

thats some hard

[dapper chasm]

Yawn, ANOTHER 6-0 as sub

If I counted every time that happened, it would be over one

[waxen meteor]

lol did my first dh alt lobby this season, starting at 2.3 mmr, i know there are lots of pets (unholy/surv/bm) but... i am zugging 200k++ dps per game straight 6 rounds...

and it's not short games at all..

[grizzled basin]

Yo, anyone has a good alternative to "Flybuffplate" to suggest ? It make FPS drop from time to time it's unusable

[jolly sierra]

nameplatebuffs

[tiny maple]

How will full gear stat allocation be for outlaw this season? How much crit, vers, mastery, haste are you guys aiming at?

[outer sky]

what pvp talents do you take against jungle?

[tiny maple]

Asking because I still havent decided between Outlaw and Sub and gearing begins to be choices now instead of just set, badge, 1 dagger which works for both specs 🙂

[outer sky]

smoke bomb, disarm, veil?

but then no hemo

[dapper chasm]

Pal

Do you want to be a boy for the rest of your life?

Or are you ready to be a sub MAN?

[tiny maple]

I have been sub main since BFA, first season speccing outlaw and doing terrible so far haha

[dapper chasm]

Screw that jazz, pal

Be a man

When I enter the arena I feel like a cross between a puppeteer and Wolverine

I slip in and out of the shadows EVERY MINUTE

Casting over there? I think not

Being all not stunned over there? I think not

You could expirience this, assuming you're over 6 foot tall IRL, and feel that same power

[tiny maple]

I guess my outlaw stats are going to be all mastery then. haha

[dapper chasm]

Glad to hear it, friend - those guys all just have sunken-cost fallacy because they fucked up rolling hunter 15 years ago and don't want to admit it

Welcome back to the fold

Enjoy glad

[harsh steppe]

Howton is a beast

[outer sky]

I think I've done it. The best build for 2v2

Wait does Vicious Venom buff Doomblade?

if so that may be the play

OMG it does

Ok this is the play for sure

[fluid ravine]

hows assasination rogue for pvp

[fallen scaffold]

Pumps. Hard

[outer sky]

it pumps but you die so fast you really cant stay in and get the full value of it

[fluid ravine]

whats good rotation?

im new to rgoeu

rogue* and wow

[outer sky]

for what spec?

[fluid ravine]

assasination

[fallen scaffold]

U don't really have a rotation as assa

You're just trying to maintain rupture + garrote + crimson tempest + poisons on all 3 targets while simultaneously ccing

[fluid ravine]

what poisons shuld i enchant weps with

dont even have crimson lol i shuld get it??

[fallen scaffold]

Uhh yeah lol. Wound poison and crippling

[fluid ravine]

could u link ur talent tree

[fallen scaffold]

Not home, just go to murlok.io

There's basically only one build

Mutilate is only for totems by the way

[fluid ravine]

k ill check it out

mutilate only for totems?

[fallen scaffold]

Ye

[fluid ravine]

whats that mean sry im new af

[fallen scaffold]

Don't use it on players it's bad

[fluid ravine]

what to use ?

[outer sky]

wait what

dont use mutilate on players?

how does he build combo points?

[gleaming pawn]

FoK

[outer sky]

what about in 2s

when theyre spread

[gleaming pawn]

He needs to go watch some guides, there’s too much to just explain to a new player

[outer sky]

Mutilate is pumping for me

almost 2m damage

to 1 person

why wouldnt you press that

[gleaming pawn]

2s isn’t a real game mode

[outer sky]

even against caster cleave its good to press

unless they stack like idiots

[fluid ravine]

what to use instead of mutilate

[outer sky]

use mutilate

unless the other team is stacked on you

[fluid ravine]

do u guys use fan of knives a lot?

[outer sky]

yes

use FoK if you can hit more than 1 person with it

[safe pelican]

Who is saying don’t use mutilate ??

[outer sky]

Jink and Sei

I think theyre trolling

[gleaming pawn]

I think you’re as bad at this game as you are at reading

[dapper chasm]

tbf I NEVER use mutilate

[gleaming pawn]

I never said to not use mutilate, I said he needs to go read a guide. And 2s is not something to make your decisions on

[outer sky]

you can swap talents now

between game modes

[safe pelican]

I use it with sanguine cause i don’t run CT and it pumps you can Fok too but it’s situational imo , if the kill target is on ropes I’m using mutilate but if I need to build CP for a go I’m using FOK , or if i can’t reach anybody but they are in range to touch with Fok then obvi FOk

Y’all really think just spamming FoK is better than Mutilate usage in 3s ? FoK does do hella damage I guess it comes down to what uses less energy Vs damage

[safe turret]

does anyone have details logs of what kind of damage the snowball bracer/belt does?

[jolly sierra]

wtf happened here guys

[wintry dew]

Its their fault and I've nothing to do with it

[jolly sierra]

same

[waxen meteor]

This seems a bit weird tbh

Muti does some dmg and it has multiple talents to buff it, if you didn’t take CT and talents around it you muti can do some dmg probably not commonly that much %

[outer sky]

I'm playing rank 2 vicious venom

[waxen meteor]

Yeah I do that too in single target build

But honestly we probably do CT in any game in 3s now

[outer sky]

I play the standard build in 3s

[harsh steppe]

why was i just allowed to create a char on horde on Tichondrius with the same name as my regular toon? i thought names were unique?

[wintry dew]

whats your main server?

if its not tichondrius, then yes thats how it works

they are unique IN the server

[harsh steppe]

ohhh

[wintry dew]

I can have:
Royalflux-Grimbatol
Royalflux-Aggra
Royalflux-Frostmane

[harsh steppe]

ohhh wow

[wintry dew]

same name, different servers

even though those 3 are linked

[harsh steppe]

sweet tysm

[astral snow]

So is Outlaw washed?

[oak frost]

do people not play goremaws anymore?

[fluid ravine]

hows assasination dmg atm

[outer sky]

Its fine its just undertuned given its survivability

So WoWHead and IceyVains suggest 2 different talent builds. Any idea which one is preferred?

[surreal barn]

MM set bonus is bonkers

I can just feel the mages dying inside

[fallen scaffold]

not trolling lol mutilate blows

fok cost less energy, builds more points and hits more people = more dmg and spreaads psns better. literally NO reason to use mutilate over it.

[fluid ravine]

whats best pvp specc atm

[fallen scaffold]

BMQAcWb37Z8KXj8LlE1rTPXfsRSkkIJEAAAAAASLJSLJAAAAAAQpFChgkkSEkEJRSSkElWLSIA

[jolly sierra]

why tf hunters and aff got buffed

god dammit

[surreal barn]

I mean up to 1600 today all I had were assa rogues and locks lol

The two mages were delicious though

[outer sky]

How major is assass 4pc?

[jolly sierra]

still assas dude?

damn

awful

dont pick it

[fallen scaffold]

u dont use 4pc

[surreal barn]

Assa is still good tbh, I’d suggest getting the gear though or it’s rough

[jolly sierra]

i will tho

[surreal barn]

I dare say it’s the best

[jolly sierra]

but ill get pve stuff too

im w 71% vers now without OH or embellishment

should be more later

[surreal barn]

I’m sure you mean mastery but yeah

[jolly sierra]

mastery yeah muh brainrot

[steel scarab]

Imagine 71% versatility lol

Actually immortal

[jolly sierra]

ye kek

me stronk

[outer sky]

265k death sweep!?!?

[gleaming pawn]

sounds low

pretty sure there was a 500k one in last week's AWC

[jolly sierra]

still recall the hunt 1 shots for SL s1

[halcyon timber]

Essence break buffed it there too

Def seen some nastier ones on mages in blitz and some 450k hunts.

[surreal barn]

I hath learned a lot about hunter today

I should do this for each class

[jolly sierra]

what did u learn now?

[surreal barn]

Their damage kit

All their little defensives

[snow wyvern]

Anyone know what's a good deathmark macro?

[vital socket]

./cast deathmark

[surreal barn]

I mean I knew what they did before but playing one is so different, easier to tell when they are SOL

Would you all use a weakaura that put a mark over the enemies head if all their defensives were on CD

[jolly sierra]

i learn than i cant overconfide myself with half hp if a hunter is casting aimed shot on me

some days ago got deleted by 400 w both arcane and aimed shot with a 0.1s lapse

[outer sky]

Friend asked me to play arens idk how well this is gunna go

[stoic spruce]

I'm so awake rn

[potent pivot]

that CC you broke would like to have a talk 😉

[jolly sierra]

got a nick trinket

bah

dagger

[jolly sierra]

friendship goals 💯

[steel scarab]

@outer sky in fairness, idk what CR means either

[stoic spruce]

Combat Rating

Your current rating

MMR applies to a groups average rating

So if your CR is 1800 and your friends is 2400, your MMR would be like 2100.

Spitballing numbers

But you get it

[stoic spruce]

How'd it go?

[outer sky]

Not well

[jolly sierra]

mastery raised to 80% after getting the embellished helm, nice

[outer sky]

How do you kite a warrior? I dont get it

he has like 20 charges and 15 leaps

[stoic spruce]

I've been kiting them by not playing so idk

Other than pillar humping

[jolly sierra]

shiv and pillar

[outer sky]

cant he leap>charge?

[jolly sierra]

ye but will be slower so u can just run through the pillar

[outer sky]

What the fuck worms get into healer's brains where they think it's oky to stun the kill target half way through the stun DR?

I cant count how many games I've lost to that

well I can count 3 in the last 15 minutes

[sick wasp]

thats some next lvl trolling

[safe turret]

you keep getting pika on his dh

[gleaming pawn]

are you ready for the DH/Boomkin tournament tomorrow?

it's going to be so exciting to watch

[sick wasp]

😅

tbh i actually was amazed from echo adapting to kasu's thugcleave

it was amazing gameplay

interested to see how chan and raiku will do

especially raiku since mage isnt rly an easy pick now with ele sham and dev evokers and hunters and DHs as possible counterpicks

[gleaming pawn]

yeah very true

poor MM hunters just getting D'd up on, that's what killed The Move last week. Le Pomp just playing full defensive and dulling their goes into nothing

[sick wasp]

i think that the move is a great team but they still need to test new stuff

like pikaboo started playing DH and idk other specs

[gleaming pawn]

yeah, I was hoping they'd hang up the RPS since Shadow is just not great right now

[sick wasp]

middle awc

[gleaming pawn]

and yet they rode it almost the whole tourney

[sick wasp]

yeah they are a good team

[gleaming pawn]

if they can actually multispec meta classes, I don't think Liquid or any of the other teams can touch them. Absterge is just too good and their synergy and ability to play off meta as well as other teams are abusing meta specs is insane

[sick wasp]

there are pvpers especially in EU teams that train multiple specs into multiple counterpicks for years now

like e.g fuseton the man plays everything

trille hits glad in every specc every season

for some years now

whaazz playing like 7-8 specs

getting r1s

[gleaming pawn]

[sick wasp]

lontar literally playing every healer in the game

[gilded gulch]

eu has more multiclassers i’ve noticed

most diverse na multiclasser is probably nick

[sick wasp]

idk who's Nick exactly but i think Tril from liquid plays almost everything

[gilded gulch]

nicktherogue/kalvish’s teammate

[sick wasp]

ohhhh yeh

[gilded gulch]

yeah he’s gotten r1 on almost every class now

[sick wasp]

yup

[gilded gulch]

his old team got screwed because

[sick wasp]

i like kalvish tbh

[gilded gulch]

jah got tourney banned

xd

[sick wasp]

you mean jahmili the mage?

[gilded gulch]

yes

he played with korlic and burnx

[sick wasp]

what would he be banned for

[gilded gulch]

gamer words i think

tbh i’ve been so out of the loop i didnt realize brain’s team broke up

[sick wasp]

theyve broke up huh

sad to hear

[gilded gulch]

thats why ceral is on gg

isnt it

[sick wasp]

yeah most likely

[gilded gulch]

i had to look it up tbh

i think i saw on brain’s twitter he was quitting competing

[sick wasp]

i think one of the best pallies in NA

if we are talking about the same brain

man could heal dead ppl back to life

anyway ye

i would love to see nahj into a team idk

[gilded gulch]

its the same brain

i'm pretty sure he's considered the best hpal on na for years

https://twitter.com/brainofbrain1/status/1690886322385559552

Brain (@brainofbrain1) on X

GGs to everyone this weekend, not happy with how I played the finals. Major burnout from the team and it definitely showed in our gameplay this season. I feel like my competitive drive is no longer there so this will probably be where my journey competing comes to an end (1/2)

Twitter · Aug 14, 2023, 12:41 AM

i imagine drake and prev just played as friends

since they didnt just try to run the team with a diff healer

[sick wasp]

drake

[gilded gulch]

lol i remember the meme of his many face's when hes calm

vs onetapping wizk

(its all the same face)

From what I recall mag saying they originally just made the team as friends playing together

so maybe thats why they stopped competing when brain did

or collective burnout

[sick wasp]

many teams everywhere in gaming quit in general after breaking up

even in keys or raid or anything

its not rly easy to play again when u reach high lvls of communication with ppl and stuff

[gilded gulch]

tbh i was initially surprised by prev multiclassing

since he originally was just known to be a god tier boomy

[sick wasp]

it would only make sense tbh

u cant rly stand this time around in the competitive schene w/o multispeccing

its almost impossible

u need to be years ahead from everyone else in gaming knowledge and stuff

[gilded gulch]

i feel boomkin must be so aids

to play at that level on oce ping

[gleaming pawn]

from what I remember, Brain got tired of always winning and their final season the team as a whole just wasn't feeling it so when they ended not finishing in first, they just quit after that

much like how Mehx got tired of winning everything and quit, so now Echo has Lontar

[gilded gulch]

lack of competition probably gets tiring

[gleaming pawn]

yeah exactly

[gilded gulch]

makes sense since these are players for whom ladder titles and such don't really stand out to them anymore

[gilded gulch]

people memeing pika being a rogue otp

[gleaming pawn]

he generally plays other melee well when he applies himself

but he's never really gone all in on another class with the intent of playing it seriously in tournies

[gilded gulch]

lol i remember they tried to play wwdk in a bfa tourney

and got absolutely bent 3-0

[gleaming pawn]

he's played warrior a few times in recent years, even won some of those matches

he could be a killer WW or DH if he tried though

[gilded gulch]

yeah it used to be a huge bfa/sl meme

that his team pulls out a random comp they didnt practice

get rinsed

then go back to rps and lose again

or win one round

[sick wasp]

everyone does 😅

[gilded gulch]

compared to whaazz tbh its true

[sick wasp]

whaazz

[gilded gulch]

tbh that entire eu cohort

of eu ex tr mains

is kinda wild

[sick wasp]

yup

very wild

[gilded gulch]

tyga and fuseton both play like

4-5 melee above r1 range

[sick wasp]

EU is highly competitive

like the sht ppl do to get on top of that ladder

[gilded gulch]

i mean true

[sick wasp]

insane

[gilded gulch]

even their "retired dads" team was good

asf

@sick wasp tbh rat is probably my favorite rogue streamer

idk why his tilts are so funny to watch

[sick wasp]

😂

rat is the man

absolutely funniest guy

tries to wrestle toxicity

playing with the best hunter in this rock orbiting the sun

love the dude

[gilded gulch]

there's just something

about the way he malds

idk

[sick wasp]

its typical UK fashion

man is toxic af

[gilded gulch]

its just comedic

then there's drainer with his infamous "my eyes" anytime something goes wrong

[sick wasp]

drainer is a totem

i think he's even more toxic than rat

[gilded gulch]

im surprised shuffle didnt tilt him off the planet

[sick wasp]

idk,i think he's over 360 tilting rn

man is spining in rads

[gilded gulch]

the 6 day diff

[sick wasp]

i remember mocking him playing on a shit server and he was like

''my pc is about to xplode only by loging dude''

while every pvper in EU had an inv to aritros guild back on bfa for pve loots

even drainer was in playing his druid n stuff

was a banger

not being near those ppl on a discord

is a loss

[gilded gulch]

lol his pc a potato?

[sick wasp]

period

back in the day his pc was the worse

he bought a gigapc recently

[gilded gulch]

if i got hook pt in bfa

could almost miss the prep buff

[sick wasp]

like u cant imagine the fun times back then

ive learned so much stuff for pvp tactics n stuff

i could legit coach now

and thats some years now

imagine what ppl doing right now

[gilded gulch]

which eu guild

[sick wasp]

doesnt exist now,disbanded after bfa

dads on tour

[gilded gulch]

yeah that one

wasnt it on ravencrest

[sick wasp]

yeah

[gilded gulch]

recall that yep

na never did that i think

[sick wasp]

dont rly know about NA,but i think EU is like Korea for starcraft

its crazy how competitive it is here

[gilded gulch]

fair

[jolly sierra]

EU players are batshit crazy in pvp

they tryhard even more than NA players

[gilded gulch]

i mean

has na even won a single bcon cup

besides lively spirit cdew

[sick wasp]

there was a time when NA was better than EU but that was when reckful was around

[jolly sierra]

rip

he will never be forgotten

[sick wasp]

rip

the man revolutionized pvp

[jolly sierra]

"i dont train assa rogues"

[gilded gulch]

i also like how he played warrior for one season

and became the best at it

[sick wasp]

he played sp as well

its not what he played but the mentality in which he played

also his skill and understanding of the game

years ahead of his time

[gilded gulch]

yeah

[jolly sierra]

guy was too much for us

[gilded gulch]

I've heard sometimes being that smart makes you feel

isolated

at the same time

[jolly sierra]

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=173819/reckful

well at least its inmortalized

[wintry dew]

https://tenor.com/view/for-honor-knight-sword-warden-kneel-gif-16620185541262559922

[jolly sierra]

got a nick dagger dude

finally

[wintry dew]

champion or hero?

[gilded gulch]

the only thing about NA

is people joke how no one has dethroned mes as best dk

in over a decade

[jolly sierra]

champion, hero is way too rare

[wintry dew]

both are in a weekly rotation tho xD but good job! i wont trouble myself doing it

[jolly sierra]

i just spammed HC galakrond fall

and left in 2nd boss

i think ppl hated me a little lol

[wintry dew]

thats adventurer ilvl

its poop

[jolly sierra]

timestrike doesnt scale

its the same at least in that aspect

[wintry dew]

yeah but dmg wise its no good

[jolly sierra]

rlly?

for a stat stick

[wintry dew]

You can SIM it, but a 515 VS Bis off hand weapon was like a 0.3% increase or something

[jolly sierra]

bruh

well my MH pve dagger is 506 ilvl

xd

im thinking in buying smolderon trinket with 1 bullion stack

[wintry dew]

It is just not worth the trouble honestly

[jolly sierra]

and the other one for the mastery ring

[wintry dew]

if you're planning to PvE, then Ashes + Grief + Eranogg ring

[jolly sierra]

gotcha

ppl is weird

[wintry dew]

He's right

but the chance of getting it is low

wait

heroic?!

hmmm

[jolly sierra]

ye

heroic.

[wintry dew]

he might have meant HERO track

[jolly sierra]

can be

but fkn dagger its hard af to get

im keeping it for now tho

[wintry dew]

M0 one is worth farming BUT you should do the whole run

and its a once per week

[jolly sierra]

will try

[wintry dew]

515 nick pretty good afaik

[jolly sierra]

i know

anyways gotta go sleep

i need to finish the last m0

later

cya

[untold remnant]

Enable hard mode boss 2 gives chance for hero track Nick which is 522. But this is only AoE BiS. For single target you want forge storm and the claw from amirdrassil

[wintry dew]

Yeah i know brother, it was due to how it was phrased

[untold remnant]

M0 hard mode you can just say “first two boss or first 4 boss” you get loot per boss, also on hard mode

[wintry dew]

Yes but he said he was just "leaving" after second boss

thats why i said he should go with the party until it is decided to end the run

[stoic spruce]

Coming for yall

[halcyon timber]

Herpes blob

[safe pelican]

Mans got a NPC??

Nah he valid fr

🐐

[harsh steppe]

gm

[wintry dew]

THE goat

[stoic spruce]

Baaaah

[harsh steppe]

feeling kinda guilty that i made a blood elf

what would my velf think?

[waxen meteor]

Blood elf > velf

[wintry dew]

That you got standards

[waxen meteor]

I might do a velf DK in panda incoming

[harsh steppe]

do eeet

[waxen meteor]

Yeah only class not lv60 +

Will probably just do it

But I am not that interested in pandoria content tbh

Is that only pve content anyway?

[wintry dew]

Yes

[waxen meteor]

Some special achievement or toy/mount?

[wintry dew]

A lot of cosmetics, toys, and you can even buy world boss mounts and raid mounts

But

It will be grindy as fuck

BUT it's better being able to grind and just buy it than years of bad luck killing the bosses

[jolly sierra]

finally ill get sais as daggers

[stoic spruce]

Nuh uh

[sick wasp]

heroic as in hero track

thats 522

it beats even 528 wpns

easy

[wintry dew]

go into heroic Dawn of the infinite

and give me a hero track dagger

[sick wasp]

bro im not even farming it for myself

[wintry dew]

you didnt get it

[sick wasp]

its 0.4-0.5% better than a 528

ild trade that

[wintry dew]

dawn of the infinite heroic awards adventurer or something

[sick wasp]

hardmode

its hardmode doti

[wintry dew]

yes

but its in the words we said earlier

[sick wasp]

bac doesnt know good english bro

he's from china

[wintry dew]

Fr?

[sick wasp]

yup

[wintry dew]

actually amazed

and panda farmed HC dawn

xD

[sick wasp]

fr?

[wintry dew]

thats the problem!

xDD

[sick wasp]

[wintry dew]

thats why i said "he must have meant HERO not HEROIC"

meanwhile panda running heroic to the second boss and then leaving

all due to 1 word difference

[jolly sierra]

yeah im crazy

[sick wasp]

🤣

[wintry dew]

You're not crazy, if i didn't know better i'd have done the same and more

[sick wasp]

i need some air

im laughing like stupid

alone

[wintry dew]

https://tenor.com/view/controlling-laugh-laughing-oh-god-thats-funny-funny-thats-hilarious-gif-26533352

[steel scarab]

@jolly sierra oh god Panda don't do that to people lol

Leaving a dungeon halfway through just sucks, finish the darn thing, have some integrity

I know we're rogues but God damn man

It's totally ok to leave if you keep wiping and can't kill a boss, but don't drop just because you didn't get your item

[wintry dew]

As bad as it sounds, as a dps, there isnt really a problem in that

there are 124214123 more in queu to join

[steel scarab]

It still breaks the flow of the dungeon, hurts morale, makes 4 other people sit and wait, then they have to go outside and summon

Just not good

[jolly sierra]

that is not an issue

[wintry dew]

Heroic dungeon

[jolly sierra]

i get replaced at second 1 after

[wintry dew]

^

[steel scarab]

Oh do they not have to summon for heroic like for the others?

[wintry dew]

na

[steel scarab]

That is weird

[jolly sierra]

no

[wintry dew]

its been like this since Wotlk dungeon finder

[steel scarab]

They should just make it like that for all dungeons then

[jolly sierra]

u use the finder

and put to requeue

and another dps appears insta

[steel scarab]

Lol that is ridiculous. Why do we have to summon for any dungeon then

[wintry dew]

mythic mode

[jolly sierra]

thank u i give personal shows in fridays

[steel scarab]

Right but if you wipe in a mythic or lose a player it's usually gg anyway

[wintry dew]

not in m0

but in m+ yeah

[steel scarab]

Right, I thought that's what we were talking about

I haven't done any Mythics this season though

I heard it changed

Where people couldn't even finish M0

Or something

And M9 is like an old M20

Is that true?

[sick wasp]

i feel for u man

[wintry dew]

Yes

[sick wasp]

but running heroic doti

[wintry dew]

it is true

[sick wasp]

[steel scarab]

Very strange, I wonder why they did that

[wintry dew]

it was an amazing change

i rather grind 10 key levels

than 20

[steel scarab]

No, I absolutely agree

I just wonder what prompted the change

[wintry dew]

It was not accessible for most players maybe? idk

The level of entry is bigger now for sure

[jolly sierra]

yeah hope i can join the + with both bis trinkets

i was using the proc combatant one and one which dropped the same boss from the nick

lol

[wintry dew]

You, doing PvE for real?

Thats pretty dope

[jolly sierra]

i need the crests

pushing forward 2k1+ is way too risky now after the nerfs

and got a 6-0 and barely 3 crests

[wintry dew]

oh right that. You need only to push up to +6 keys for the aspects, from 515 to 528