pvp

[halcyon timber]

Living bomb may be as explosive as eating 4 gas station burritos and getting stuck in traffic then attempting to sprint in your house while playing the saw sound track Want to play a game??

[nova viper]

All Fear, Silence, Sleep, Stun & Interrupt visual effects have been updated with a new visual. Additionally, all movement speed slowing effects greater than 50% will now display a universal Slow visual on the target.

Developers’ notes: Our main priority for this visual update is to help increase the clarity and consistency of messaging for common status effects. Slow (the status effect not the spell), for example has taken quite a few different visual forms over the years, mostly in the range of multicolored dust clouds around a target’s feet. As you can imagine this particular visual was difficult to notice from a distance and wasn’t easily recognizable. So, we did a pass on Slow and the other status effects listed to help address those clarity/messaging issues making them easier to quickly identify in combat.

@jolly sierra

Look this spanish boy

[fading blade]

ok cool but where rogue changes

[jolly sierra]

is that a direct message to me? lol

they watched my replays it seems

[nova viper]

No lol

[jolly sierra]

nah its fine

now lets see the generic icons for all dr categories

[halcyon timber]

part of that could be good as it would reduce memory being eaten up as well.

[outer sky]

Should we replace our honor gear with tier gear?

err

reverse that

should we replace our S3 tier gear wth S4 honor gear?

[halcyon timber]

Pretty big jump in hp and agility

Def would, gearing has been quick already as is which is solid

[waxen meteor]

I have a big question homies

Conquest = 522 in arena S4 right?

[gleaming pawn]

no, 528

[waxen meteor]

oh shoot

nvm

so some pve gear to 535 doesn't matter that much

[gleaming pawn]

plate with the lego axe will hurt, but otherwise not really

[jolly sierra]

lego axe is from the same ilvl than regular pvp wep, right?

it is capped to 528 or 535?

[gleaming pawn]

I would have assumed 535 because it's legendary

but no idea tbh

[grave basin]

Didnt play outlaw last sn, is the tier good ?

Feels like some classes like boomy just can't die

[gleaming pawn]

@jolly sierra we can actually trigger that ring with a shadowflame patch embelishment. So you don't have to craft the helm that procs fire damage

[jolly sierra]

hmmmmmmmmm

this one?

[gleaming pawn]

yeah

[jolly sierra]

hmmmmmm

[safe turret]

Actually wild how awful outlaw feels without tier, 4pc is how roll the bones should work baseline

[stoic spruce]

I wonder how that'll get addressed in TWW

I'd hate for this to be the only season where I dislike the iteration but had my favorite bonus

[waxen meteor]

isn't this one nerfed to hell?

[jolly sierra]

ye

but if it does trigger

maybe can work

[waxen meteor]

does it worth it?

i mean the ring dmg is that significant that worth another craft just to trigger it?

[gleaming pawn]

what else are you going to use, a secondary proc that will push you further into most of your DRs?

[hallow tide]

I don't know if I should be playing a poison or bleed build for PvP assassination, any opinions?

[jolly sierra]

sangrado 100%

[halcyon timber]

Can confirm on alpha that the new cc vfx is a subtle white flash. Its noticeable enough to clearly distinguish as a good indicator

Dfa is buffed to 40% vs live too and the smoke bomb talent is slick

A few things aren’t proccing but that’s all WIP for fazed but it is noticeable on the uptime and can links together stuff nicely. I dig it a lot, its simple it has a clear picture, coup de grace will be able to be used when you want kinda decently . Surprising strikes is cool and brings up the floor and kinda feels like old hemo.

[polar stone]

Just watch pika's latest vid. The lengend is still playing the damn sub omg.

[grave basin]

@halcyon timber you have alpha access ?

[halcyon timber]

Yes sir

Feels kinda like old hemo with a lot of triggers and i dig that shit

Hopefully more of us pvpers get in so we can throw feedback in. I really dig it, the mastery buff stacks kinda nicely sorta like alacrity.

[waxen meteor]

There’s no poison build in pvp

[hallow tide]

Oh, oke, I was just looking at Wow head for a PvP build and it was focused on a poison-like build

[waxen meteor]

Poison dmg is low, to a level you can ignore

[jolly sierra]

wowhead is bad af as reference for pvp

[hallow tide]

Really? Which one can you recommend me? Murlok io?

[waxen meteor]

If you want to learn sin pvp watch shadenox

He posted some intro pvp videos I know lots of people prefer to read

But his video worth watching

Take your time and it’s way better than reading dated info

In s1 when we used DTB at least poison does some dmg, so beginning of season lots picked poison talent, but during end of season it’s already dated

This season and s3 we do not take DTB, so your only poison is just wound poison which does very low dmg anyway

Build around poison has zero sense

[hallow tide]

Got it got it

Thanks a bunch

I wrote all that to check tomorrow

Hopefully I’ll improve well enough to melt people

[jolly sierra]

im using this rn

[lucid citrus]

how do you like ER?

[jolly sierra]

with crimson tempest dude

big dam

are u fucking kidding me

[exotic dove]

Well one of my Assa rogues is doing good ill hit 1600 tomorrow with maintaining around 2100 mmr which I started with currently 1278 cr the other rogue has had 2 devs an hpal and a ret or lobbies with 3 complete counters each time and its miserable

Hope all of you are having a good season so far

[jolly sierra]

its fine dude

tbh i dont overthink in this week

ive got a rog 3 times in a row (outlaw) w the reflexes of a stoner

the crazy fuck countered me at milisecond from afar

i was like REEEEEEEEEEEEE inside

but nothing to overthink tbh

[jolly sierra]

1k6 nice

now time to wait till week 2 to go

[last jasper]

Why?

[steel scarab]

Man Assassination feels awful with the green PvP gear

I must be doing something wrong but I am getting smashed and can't kill anything

[jolly sierra]

no fkn way

is funny af

[jolly sierra]

cuz im a coward and rather prefer to keep my sanity intact

[steel scarab]

Maybe because I'm in lobbies with 2000 rated people

But I am getting smashed

I also tried some rounds with Dragon Tempered Blades

Don't do that folks

Guaranteed loss

[jolly sierra]

oh boi

if u are not with enough experience

NEVER

BUT NEVER

PLAY SS IN WEEK 1

ranks one are the ones there at that MMR

[steel scarab]

😔😔😔

I did not know that

No wonder I am getting destroyed lol

[grave basin]

That's why you go down to 1600mmr where first time queues are

@jolly sierra did you buy 2pc ? Or saving conq

[jolly sierra]

didnt buyed anything

my partner said the same when i got 1k6

[last jasper]

Oh, you still think you are sane. 😄

[jolly sierra]

told him im more slow paced for stuff cuz rushing things like tier or conq buyouts besides the wep would just fuck everything in following weeks

[grave basin]

I think I'm going to chicken out too and hold

What about bloody token gear

[jolly sierra]

its the best dude

bought a belt

and maybe will buy pants

and turn them into tier

depending of vault

but imagine

i buy a chest

then next week

in vault

appears another one

bruh

[potent pivot]

bruh

[grave basin]

Just take the gem slot

[jolly sierra]

that is a good one too

but lets see

[potent pivot]

[jolly sierra]

we have like 5 months of season tho

[grave basin]

If you get one tier next vault , then it's guaranteed 4 pc

[jolly sierra]

im assa

i just wanna 2 pieces

XD

depends of vault now

if it gets a chest, even generic, then i pick the chest, else pants

then i buy the other piece and get the 2set

[grave basin]

I just learnt today that RTB only gives 1/2/5 buffs and never 3 or 4

No wonder it feels like ass without the tier

[last jasper]

lmao, I have glad ele in a lobby. poor guy got zugzuged 3 rounds in a row

sub, outlaw and sin in 1 lobby

[lucid citrus]

you win those

[last jasper]

sin won 😄

[exotic dove]

Like others have mentioned there is a mix of different experience people right now I have one rogue hovering over a 60% winrate as assa and the other is 29% and the 29% was people higher xp than I was counter lobbies and rank 1s

[steel scarab]

When should I start playing then

Because

This shit is just awful

[jolly sierra]

week 2 or 3

go battleground blitz instead

so u cap it

[steel scarab]

Okay

[jolly sierra]

this is not a race

[steel scarab]

I'll do that

[jolly sierra]

eventually u play w similar ppl

[exotic dove]

Yeah I am playing shuffle cause I want to play against people that high so I can learn though its a great time to learn. I am even playing my hunters at 2k+ mmr as well

I feel that is the best way to gain experience yourself imo

[jolly sierra]

but week 1 is always plagued with very high experienced ppl

[exotic dove]

I also gamecapture the games though to see why I lost

[jolly sierra]

i felt enough with playing with mglads at 1k9 lobbies in former season

[exotic dove]

or even won

[jolly sierra]

i know can play better, but always liked the slow pace

so prefer to go calmly

[exotic dove]

That is fine as well 🙂 Eveyrone likes to play differently and there is nothing wrong with it

[last jasper]

In shuffle there is hard to learn. Cuz there is always another 5 who can fucked up

[exotic dove]

How quick can you cap vault with Blitz is it as much as winning rbgs? Might just send all the alts through that if its the case

[harsh steppe]

what offhand do i go with? gm all ❤️

[last jasper]

That have mastery on it

[harsh steppe]

those all have mastery on them

[last jasper]

yes, one from honor vendor the other is from bloody

pretty much those who took 525 are playing outlaw

I dont see any other reason why would u spent 7 strife for an OH first week into the season

[harsh steppe]

oh ok so just wait a bit on offhand?

[last jasper]

just grab hammer from honor vendor

[harsh steppe]

ah ok tyty

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-hammer-cant-touch-this-gif-20008560

[wintry dew]

Inside the city in valdrakken, at the far right buildings

I'm not in game right now, can't really screenshot

[last jasper]

tnx, googled it ❤️

[wintry dew]

Ok 😛

[last jasper]

bronze enclave

is it worth spending strife this week for p2 on assa or its not that huge?

[outer sky]

I just noticed the Outlaw tier set is nerfed in PvP. was it last season?

[grave basin]

All tier is nerfed 50% in pvp

Blanket nerf

[wanton breach]

yup it was, 5% sinister strike proc chance and the buff from 4set is at half duration

[digital current]

yo pals

which rogue spec can be equally viable and good both in pvp and pve?

[last jasper]

@jolly sierra this is so good its mental. just finished placement games
could've been higher. But in the last 3 matches had a guy who was going to 6-0. managed to spoil it and make it 5-1 😄

[safe turret]

tier uses s3 bonus but s2 stats? or is it a bug with the item sets tab?

[last jasper]

It’s not. Stats are from s2

[last jasper]

the amount of 6-0 games is insane

[safe turret]

Seen a lot of, mostly EU, outlaws using snowball embelish last season, anyone know what the damage breakdown with it looks like?

[lusty meteor]

Assa only needs 2 set?

[harsh steppe]

all

[digital current]

what about the most noob friendly one?

[last jasper]

prolly assa

[digital current]

assa good in rbgs?

[last jasper]

idk, i dont play bgs

[pine badge]

sub is my fave for bg’s. learning sin now for arena. outlaw gg for pve

[hidden moth]

i’ve mainly played sub and season 3 tried assa and was easier for me tho. the only hard thing about assa is survivability

[nova viper]

I have dumb question - how i can make details look like this? xD I think I've gone through all the settings and I'm either blind or stupid

[outer sky]

Did they give disc priest a 3rd PS charge??????????

[harsh steppe]

def not sub. assa or outlaw for sure. but i did hear a few times that outlaw is very good in BGs, so perhaps try that first

[chrome schooner]

No

[waxen meteor]

actually i don't use CT in 2s...

unless it's against some pet heavy spec

My exp is DTB is better in 2s

[restive hemlock]

I've been grinding conquest/vault in Blitz as Outlaw and it's a menace lol. Plenty of team fight damage with Blade Flurry and Hook helps with chasing down EFCs or getting tf out. I do have a pocket healer so results may vary lol

[waxen meteor]

@chrome schooner what embollishment you are planning to use for sin this season?

stat boots and blue silk?

[surreal barn]

You secure R1??

[chrome schooner]

yes

[chrome schooner]

no, in 3s my team fell apart like 3 weeks ago so I had 2810 maybe 3 weeks before the end when end ssn cutoff was 2900, so, q very sad one, and in shuffle I was 2886 which was really high on the overall ladder but then on tuesday I wake up and I see the night crew got 4 chars above 2890 past 6 AM (surely legitimate, right) so I don't think i'll get it

[surreal barn]

That’s brutal, kinda sounds like there is still a chance for shuffle though

[jolly sierra]

1 win = like 1200 honor

[jolly sierra]

crazy, u are going fast af dude

[jolly sierra]

dtb? forgot about that after that big nerf

[lucid citrus]

Wait you can fill vault with blitz this season? I thought it was next expac

[jolly sierra]

yeah since s4

finally we can

[lucid citrus]

Ohhh wow Okayy

[waxen meteor]

yeah but in 2s i don't feel aoe that good

[jolly sierra]

agree w that

[outer sky]

Why would you use CT in arena at all? I use it in BGs but in arena wouldn't you want to go full ST spec?

[waxen meteor]

no

CT is great dmg source for sin at 3s

[grave basin]

it's the fabled triple rog lobby

[long shore]

What does the outlaw tier set do for this season?

[gleaming pawn]

That poor assa rogue is not going to enjoy that lobby

[grave basin]

0 6 mw that got solod every round

one round i proced like 4 bte back to back and blew his head off

[last jasper]

finished 😄

[gleaming pawn]

Nope not finished, since the transmog is old you must push for 2400

[safe pelican]

Nerf holy priest and frost mage

[gleaming pawn]

Nah just buff Rogue

[grave basin]

is that cerva on ww

lol

[last jasper]

sub pretty please

[safe pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/kkekekekekkeke-kk-gif-27232250

[gleaming pawn]

Oh sorry, I should have been more specific. Buff Outlaw and Assassination. Sub can get buried once and for all

[last jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/margot-robbie-gif-9412046

[safe pelican]

Blasphemy, Sub shall rise again

[last jasper]

I’ll give time for a big boys to climb. Cuz it’s annoying almost everytime there is a guy stomps a lobby

And u sweat for at least 3/3

[gleaming pawn]

That’s fair

[last jasper]

Hope they won’t nerf assa before that 😂

[safe pelican]

Story of my life yesterday

[jolly sierra]

gratz dude, u got 1k8 at week 1 very rushed

why tf u named urself @last jasper dude lol

[safe pelican]

That holy priest i played against made me go 3/3 his fears were godly had that SD weakaura got feared almost even dance pop

Solution kidney first ? That’s what I’m thinking

Instead of popping dance and setting off the WA

[last jasper]

lmao, I felt like Im acting like one 😄

[jolly sierra]

nah merek flexed a lot to whine after that and complain a lot about their own partners and fellow community members

[last jasper]

that's why its 2.0 😄

[last jasper]

Yea, if only I didn't waste 2days trying to make sub work

[jolly sierra]

merek never got 1k8 i recall

[jolly sierra]

[grave basin]

so uh, dh still pumps with no tier eh

[jolly sierra]

ye

[grave basin]

\

dude just got blasted lmao from half health

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[last jasper]

Nope.

[nova sentinel]

What are we looking at, broken Demon Hunter DMG?

[waxen meteor]

that 2.76 chart doesn't seem to say too much tbh

and it looks like that dh actually was using tier set

could be new season one or old season one

[last jasper]

Tier set doesn’t amplify their damage

[waxen meteor]

that's true

but honestly

there's zero change

from s3 to s4

[last jasper]

Prob got lucky on that buff that boosts all their damage

[waxen meteor]

what difference are we expecting

[wintry dew]

Seeing "Merek is typing" gave me a mini heart attack

[last jasper]

They are not even near to what they were in the first part of s3

[last jasper]

Sorry mate

[waxen meteor]

yeah in first days of s3, i run into 3 people and killed all 3

in 2k+ lobby...

that had been quite broken

but that part was adjusted fairly quikcly

right now we are at same stage of end of season s3

[last jasper]

Not really. The main reason of that insane dam was adjusted after a second or third nerf

Not that all other stuff was balanced. But

[jolly sierra]

guys what would u consider for dinars in week 2?

[gleaming pawn]

Nothing unless you’re doing m+ keys for the crests to upgrade something all the way

Or raids for that matter, but raids are harder to just pug into

[jolly sierra]

ye i know

[restive hemlock]

Isn't there a vers mastery dagger from raid?

[jolly sierra]

ye

from igira, and u can get it till 528, i think that is a big deal

[last jasper]

https://youtu.be/2c5M0h3N8co?si=43JDyZpOUmBco44X

Wow, this dungeon looks sick

[surreal barn]

I want alpha

😔

Have you all fought against Devastation + Frost Mage yet

As assa

☠️

[steel scarab]

I fought a monk and got wrecked repeatedly

Just could not get that fucker off me

They were really long matches too but he just did way more damage than me and stuck to me like glue

[waxen meteor]

Use Feint well against monk

that's half of your defensive already against monk

Then you can save a step for defend

when they use the big punch, just step to your healer

[last jasper]

Fighting against good frost mage only is already a pain

[surreal barn]

I went 0-6 each time I was at 2550 mmr

Took me right back down

[tiny maple]

As a long time sub rogue wanting to try outlaw what is the main differences I should focus on adapting to? And where can I find a good guide on playstyle?

[waxen meteor]

you can hardly use the aoe build i guess

[surreal barn]

My dam was still on par with Devo idk

[potent pivot]

It’s more pve/sticking to targets in a way

[tiny maple]

Do I hold stuff for setups sometimes or just play it like a DH (ish)?

[potent pivot]

Not really

Holding as outlaw is bad

[waxen meteor]

Tried my SP after whole season gap, started with 2100 MMR wtf

[potent pivot]

Outlaw has CDR on most of its abilities

[tiny maple]

Alright makes a lot of sense

Thanks man

[potent pivot]

Np

As for play guides you might be able to find some vids from pika or someone on youtube

I would just watch a good rogues gameplay

[tiny maple]

Great will look for that then

Thanks

[last jasper]

best way for me was just los them and kick/silence/stun when they near

[waxen meteor]

It’s very difficult in solo

Because your teammate may very likely not on same page

So it’s not hit and run

It’s hit and 2 on 3

Hit and 2 on 3

[last jasper]

true.

In most cases ur teammate just stays in open yolo

[hidden meadow]

i've seen assa playing echoing reprimand lately, feels interesting to play

[waxen meteor]

I have been running that since last season

I think some quick 7 cp CT and ruptures frees up a lot from cp build time

[jolly sierra]

CT

[gleaming pawn]

What are you guys dropping to run ER?

[hidden meadow]

Lethality

[jolly sierra]

lethality

sadly

[harsh steppe]

gm fam
which is the right way of typing target focus for macros? or are all these right? just different ways?

[jolly sierra]

just one conquest weapon in main hand

[potent pivot]

Those all should work I think though they seem odd. To me at least

The shadowstep one I believe will clear your current target, shadowstep your focus target and make them your new regular target

You don’t usually see /cqs for melee (in my experience)

[harsh steppe]

ahh ok tysm
do you normally do the "[target=focus]" or [@focus]? and do I need the extra "[]" after the "[@focus]" ? ([@focus][])

[gleaming pawn]

@focus saves characters, and is better because it’s more elegant. But that’s me being a coder

[potent pivot]

I’m honestly not 100% sure I haven’t looked at my macros in ages

[gleaming pawn]

Otherwise they function the same

[harsh steppe]

tysm ❤️
i am a previous coder too so i was hoping you'd say that i could use the shorter one lol

[gleaming pawn]

[] means “when nothing else, just do X normally”

You would use it in a macro where you use a modifier key to change the behavior. Like casting blind at your focus. Using [] at the end tells it to just cast blind normally when you aren’t using a modifier key (at your current target)

[harsh steppe]

ohhhh yayy i don't use modifier macros at all so i can safely delete them then, tysm

what code did you used to write in? i liked C++ & python

[gleaming pawn]

Python and C# though my python days are long behind me

[gleaming pawn]

Do you just have one button for blind? Or is focus blind a different button

[harsh steppe]

yes a different button dw ❤️

[surreal barn]

Disintegrate channels behind pillars too :/

[jolly sierra]

that shits should autointerrupt like lock drain spells

when u are in los

[harsh steppe]

should i be using my previous 2 set until i can replace them? or just use the higher ilvl honor gear for those slots

[pine badge]

i am very bad at pvp i have determined

[jolly sierra]

no, play w greens

[potent pivot]

PvP takes a lot of practice in wow, but everyone has different skill levels

[grave pier]

Best pvp outlaw talents?

if u dont have any tier sets

[safe turret]

Enduring brawler always then veil, disarm, bomb, take your cut depending on matchup

[gleaming pawn]

playing Assa

[grave pier]

nana need outlaw though

[grave pier]

i mean acc talents thou

like i got none

no talent tree*

[safe turret]

BQQAcWb37Z8KXj8LlE1rTPXfsBAkQSSkEIJhkIIRSaSS0SiUSCAAAAAAUahgkkUIpEBAAAgkIA pretty standard

can play spree over count the odds if you want

nothing has changed

sting like a bee over float vs wizards/when you aren't a target

[grave pier]

what about this?

[safe turret]

vigor is pretty big for outlaw, coldblood doesn't really do much since our crit is so high to begin with

also you need subterfuge

[grave pier]

Alright thank you

[safe turret]

def want ghostly strike

just copy the string I sent and can import it in game

[outer sky]

What does "go do rogue things" mean in an RBG context right now? Since we cant blind or kidney cap anymore

[fading blade]

Well you can sap cap, but other than that probably still best to roll around with another stealth to cap, if not then just cheese/ win the duel for caps

[long shore]

What is best way to gear up now?

[safe turret]

from what starting point

usually just afk epic bgs or spam blitz, blitz scales your ilvl up and also caps your vault

[woven jolt]

Pinpoint who is defending, make them pill out their dh out of the teamfight, Try and take the Trinket out of their sitters. the only class thar can reliable still solo steal is a Druid

A rogue can still solo kill a sitter, so they pressure is almost the same

even if we can't blind capo

On Flag maps, Rogue can wipe out a Dh's jumps, and cd's if you find them alone

You can also go the annoying route and kidnap their D Healer on their base or in the middle

and let your O team wipe out their tank

If you're commited to it, you can lock down someone on pure CC

If you're assigned the D rogue, your only target is their rogue

[steel scarab]

1785, not bad so far

For having all greens and no embellishments

[exotic dove]

Grats man I knew you could do it

[digital current]

guys is outlaw fun in rbgs/bltiz/solo bg?

easy to get into it?

[exotic dove]

Well the Rogue that had bad luck earlier this week ended up being the first of my toons to 1800 cr. So far managing to keep this mmr on my two hunters and both rogues since they are all around the same mmr.

The others are close in the mid to high 1700 cr range

[harsh steppe]

nice! keep it up @exotic dove @steel scarab

[harsh steppe]

so veil of midnight basically makes cloak of shadows another trinket? or does it not break every cc

[hidden meadow]

Is it worth replacing the embelished items with the greens atm?

[harsh steppe]

you mean embellished from last season?

how do i make infurious boots again?
and is that the only thing i need to make? it's just that and then get 2 set pieces from catalyst right

[hidden meadow]

Yeah 🙂

[harsh steppe]

sweet

what addon is making this pop up everytime?

[hidden meadow]

Sorry, no I was replying to you about the embellished from last season

[harsh steppe]

oh ok aha

no, forget all items from last season

[hidden meadow]

See the one that procs 604agi is quite good given it's ready for every kidney go

[harsh steppe]

yep but the new greens higher ilvl > any last seasons benefits

https://murlok.io/rogue/subtlety/3v3
ok yah looks like main choice is 2 set is chest & legs, & infurious boots. so 4 piece isn't worth it like when i used to play?

[last jasper]

It doesn’t break any cc at all. It just removes physical debuffs. Such as disarm, bleeds etc

[harsh steppe]

ohhh i see
is it worth picking that over shadowy duel?

[last jasper]

Not really. Better drop something else.

[harsh steppe]

i use theif's bargain & smoke bomb too

[last jasper]

It’s not worse running it all the time. Unless u face feral or someone who is going to disarm u

[harsh steppe]

i need to properly learn to use SD then, everytime i use it it's not really a game breaker sometimes even messes me up lol

[last jasper]

It can be used defensively. Or just on a healer if u feel u don’t have enough juice to finish urself

[harsh steppe]

ahhh tysm! i'll try that

https://tenor.com/view/imma-be-honest-im-a-noob-connerbobay-im-just-starting-amateur-newbie-gif-19069154

[obtuse venture]

Is it assassination strong right now in SS??

and if so, what is the best talents in ur opinion?

[harsh steppe]

yes sin is strongest rn i believe

[hidden meadow]

I find monks are dropping me in a stun yet my bane/deathmark with full dots is not dropping anything below 50%

Problem exists between chair and keyboard I imagine

😛

[outer briar]

What are the top healers for assa in 2s right now?

[outer sky]

How do you beat healer/frost mage in 2s? It feels impossible

[harsh steppe]

disc

[tough spruce]

Deathmark is kinda meh atm, I use it to bait cds. Dance + kb is what really pressures enemies. Try to cc healer before your go with kidney/blind and during damce you want to delay KB as much as possible so that you can maybe proc zoldyk recipe and sudden demise. Also make sure you have shiv and empowered garrote on your kill target

[lone goblet]

Any idea if the VotI rings will be good for pvp? Seems like free bonus effect is good.

Just slap on a shadowflame patch for fire damage.

[lone goblet]

I've decided I need teammates who don't use CC

Frost trap, sheep, and similar are the bane of my existance in pvp

I just spent 10 seconds and a bone spike charge getting every dot on this person, and you trap them...

then I do it again and you trap them again

this is a gg

now I have no energy, no regen, no bone spike charges

because of TEAMMATE ACTION

argh

[surreal barn]

Dance without kingsbane is nearly as deadly being able to apply empowered garrote

[wanton breach]

yes, absolutely

why is dh still so disgusting to play against, feels impossible to kill in shuffles

[jolly sierra]

100% ppl is playing without that rn

try reading murlok.io to see the talents ppl are picking rn

never

is a complement

[wanton breach]

crimson tempest gets a whole bunch of damage the more targets you hit with it, so all kinds of pets like from unholy dk, hunters, priests and such give you bonus damage on your primary target - and just hitting 2 players might be worth against a team you want to rot down with bleeds

[hidden meadow]

I do tend to find myself pressing kingsbane as the first global while in dance. That might be where I'm going wrong

[waxen meteor]

Why is it wrong?

[surreal barn]

Sepsis is actually hitting hard as hell atm for some reason

If you know for a fact you aren’t going to be able to get off crimson tempest it’s worth a try

[harsh steppe]

i saw the top sub atm is using sepsis too was thinking of trying it out

[jolly sierra]

hmmmmmmmmm

[surreal barn]

Might be the overall agility and versa added

Combine that with a dance window and oof

[jolly sierra]

tbh i hate sepsis for the dispell mostly

[wanton breach]

points at evokers, paladins, survival hunters, dwarves what's one more thing to dispell?

[jolly sierra]

yes

[hidden meadow]

I think pressing a tad later benefits from zolds right?

[chrome schooner]

If you know you'll get people below 35% then you should wait

[hidden meadow]

Forgive me but what does crimson tempest have to do with sepsis? Is there an interaction I'm not familiar with? The alt choice for sepsis is bonespike, I assume I'm missing something.

[chrome schooner]

But if you're not sure then you can press it earlier to benefit from dance's damage modifier on the dot longer

[jolly sierra]

shade, thoughts about sepsis?

[chrome schooner]

I played it in 1 2v2 game

it dealt disappointing damage

cooldown is long

stealth spell can't be garrote, it treats it as non stealth

that's the biggest issue

[jolly sierra]

oof

fair enough ty

[hidden meadow]

The cooldown feels the worst. Having bonespike feels a lot more useful to get full combos easily

I must say I don't usually play crimson in 2s thoughi

Maybe I should but I tend to find the muti/ambush extra damage talents help me more with single target pressure

[waxen meteor]

That’s one of reasons I take ER over crit dmg talent

[waxen meteor]

Unless you are certain target is reaching <35% soon before dance is over

In most cases it’s not

[hidden meadow]

I see

[waxen meteor]

Shiv dance kb is more than fine

[chrome schooner]

crit dmg is insane with garrote tho

[hidden meadow]

Crimson pumps even single target. I use it in 3s a lot

[waxen meteor]

Do you refresh rupturr during dance?

[hidden meadow]

I tend not to refresh rupture during dance

[waxen meteor]

I think rupture done during dance has better tiks even after dance is over

[hidden meadow]

I think one of my big learnings is trying to stay over 150 energy

For the sanguine ticks

[chrome schooner]

Sometimes

There is some snapshot mechanic with Dance I think yes

So, about crit dmg talent

• on Kingsbane ofc

[dark kernel]

mmm

[waxen meteor]

Yeah it’s ‘ improved ‘ rupture and also aoeed

So quite a bit higher in longer term

But obviously lose some evenom burst

[surreal barn]

You can’t pick it up without dropping it is all

[chrome schooner]

Envenom deals no dmg anyway

[last jasper]

Yea, it snapshots the damage for the whole duration of rupture. U def should refresh it during dance

[jolly sierra]

so, are you guys considering bullions buyouts for using in pvp? the 528 cap seems like a good option for some stuff

even if u have to pve a little im sure can be a good idea

[surreal barn]

I already used mine on xmog lul

There’s a double devastation preservation 3s going on twitch atm

It’s hilarious

[lone goblet]

I was thinking fire rings, one has higher ilevel max even.

I read theya re 25% effective in pvp, but that's still something.

You dont give up any stats

[hidden meadow]

Sorry, isn't crimson on the far left and sepsis on the bottom right?

[surreal barn]

Yeah.

[jolly sierra]

fucking lizards

[jolly sierra]

fire damage ring is with x1 multiplier, the other one from diurna has 0.25

even if both are related to the same boss in lore, the one we were looking at was the damage one

[jolly sierra]

filthy

[hidden dome]

I have been playing this season for not even a week

and I already can't stand playing against assa rogues

I haven't seen a single sub or outlaw

[gleaming pawn]

because Sub does shit damage, and Outlaw is trash without Tier

[hidden dome]

Yeah

Also assa just seems strong right now

[gleaming pawn]

it's no stronger than it was in s3

people just slept on it

[idle root]

what bracket

2s 3s SS?

[hidden dome]

2s around 1.8

[idle root]

hm interesting

[last jasper]

Target > enemy players

[stoic spruce]

gonna rage

dude

the average wow player

I dont understand them

I've been playing long enough to know theyre stupid as all hell

[jolly sierra]

the average wow player is a pve player

[stoic spruce]

oh pvp, pve

it doesnt matter

dumb as shit

[wintry dew]

https://tenor.com/view/curiosity-curious-intrigued-interested-interesting-gif-14505707

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-south-park-gif-26992332

[last jasper]

90% ppl in this channel is avrg wow player

[wintry dew]

Define Avrg wow player

[jolly sierra]

*95%

[jolly sierra]

pve

[wintry dew]

Nono, what i mean is, what defines them as average

[jolly sierra]

ask popo

or our friend merek 2.0

[wintry dew]

i've actually been doing some pve these past few days

its fucking sad

i cant change my 463 tier pieces

with 493 normal pieces in the bags

[stoic spruce]

I never thought I'd had to explain what an average wow player is

so im not

throw a dart and youll hit one

[last jasper]

sounds toxic 😄

[jolly sierra]

yeah dude that name is tainted

lol

[last jasper]

I see 😂

[stoic spruce]

yall have a name thats ruined because of someone?

I cant be friends with Sarahs or Zachs anymore

[wintry dew]

Hmm...

For me its Zé

[stoic spruce]

its on sight for every Zach/Zack

[wintry dew]

Zé is a short form of José

guess i made someone mad

xD

[stoic spruce]

probably a Jose lol

[random yacht]

Lmao no that is just SO pretentious of a name

[wintry dew]

Why do you say that

[last jasper]

Idk, typical casual player playing for fun. Something like that

[wintry dew]

i play for fun after playing for the chores

[random yacht]

Who shortens a two syllable name to one syllable???

[wintry dew]

Welcome to Portuguese names

[random yacht]

Notable exceptions: Richard -> dick because hehe funni

[stoic spruce]

I bet if jesus was born again and he went to a public school AND played baseball, theyd call him J-Dawg

[wintry dew]

LOOOL

Lil'Jay

[stoic spruce]

LJ

[last jasper]

lil j

[jolly sierra]

little D

[stoic spruce]

Da Son

[last jasper]

Big J

or merek

[gleaming pawn]

this shitty season is already getting to y'all, you're unhinged today

[hidden meadow]

I see so many people playing hemotoxin but forgive me, it doesn't stack with wound anymore does it?

[gleaming pawn]

it never did

and it's not worth the pvp talent

people playing it are big dumb

[last jasper]

I wouldn't say liek that

[stoic spruce]

You should M+ with the real outlaw build

[gleaming pawn]

maybe, but there's pretty much no reason to run the talent anymore so

[silk tundra]

it's not bad for assa as shiv does aoe damage and applies hemotoxin to nearby targets

[wintry dew]

mind sharing the illusion? havent seen it yet

[jolly sierra]

its sand

[gleaming pawn]

you're already applying 24% wound poison to those people, no it's not a good talent anymore

[silk tundra]

30% is better than 24% tho

[last jasper]

unless u need both veil and disarm there isn't much else u can take

[silk tundra]

i like control is a king

[stoic spruce]

B)

[wintry dew]

It looks like... that one from preorder

[last jasper]

it looks like ... garbanzo 😄

[stoic spruce]

Why your dagger farting?

Everyone who tries it says it plays very smoothly

Js

Is it good?

Lol nope

I love my build

[waxen meteor]

Not my fav for sure…

[last jasper]

https://youtu.be/3WvWrk3KWzM?si=H-nTpKPkBrJvhJmM

[surreal barn]

I put mine on the kingslayers it looks kinda cool

[tough spruce]

Hi Shade, in solo shuffle do you tend to use dance/kb or deathmark first? Usually in the opener I try to spread empowered garrotes followed by a deathmark -> stun on kill target. I end up saving dance/kb for my 2nd go but sometimes I feel I lack the pressure and as assa it really sucks to fall behind on cds

[chrome schooner]

I use Dance first always

Empowered garrotes have very high uptime due to Dance Meld and Vanish so you can always find a good moment to use Deathmark

Beyond the opener I mean

[outer sky]

Best 3v3 spec?

[tough spruce]

Thanks. So during dance do you prio shiv for extra burst (when playing tiny toxic blade) or just care about having the debuff up? Usually I go for cheap -> garrote -> shiv -> kingsbane.

[chrome schooner]

I just care about having it up, I don't try to use it during Danc eespecially

If it happens it happens

[steel scarab]

Woo 1850 D:

Is the best first conquest piece generally the mainhand dagger?

[jolly sierra]

ye

[potent pivot]

yeah unless you're going to catalyst a piece it's generally best to do weps first

[steel scarab]

Makes sense, yeah I have zero tier pieces so I guess a MH first

Should the second conquest buy be the offhand? I heard before our offhand isn't impactful

[jolly sierra]

no

[steel scarab]

Okay!

[stoic spruce]

its him

(I base this on absolutely nothing)

[waxen meteor]

I should have done solo

2s are toooooooooooooo slow

did 9-1 today CR = 864

[steel scarab]

up to 2005 D:

[compact moat]

kinda want to try wow again is solo queue working on 2v2 and 3v3?

or do i have to wait 15 minutes to get a match

[lone goblet]

solo shuffle has a wait time, but 2's and 3's are pretty fast

depends on your rating tho

[gleaming pawn]

solo queue is 3v3 only, and the average wait time is around 15-20min until around 1800

[wanton breach]

neat - not too bad

[compact moat]

dam thats long

15minutes

[lone goblet]

You do get to play 6 rounds at a time

so it seems long, but you get a lot of games once in

[long shore]

Is outlaw 4 set exactly the same as last season?

[fallen scaffold]

isnt everything

[long shore]

I have no idea. All set bonuses same as season 3?

[gleaming pawn]

Yes rogue set bonuses are all the same as s3

[long shore]

Thanks alot!

[harsh steppe]

NICE

[sharp sierra]

am i just bad or is sub really weak in 3s atm

i normally played assa and came back after 2ish months swapped to sub but my damage is just so bad lol... im doing like 3m dmg every shuffle round while others are doing 10m 515ilvl

[last jasper]

Sub never was about topping meters, but yea. Currently struggling and worst out 3 rogues

[sharp sierra]

i understand not abt topping meters but i just feel soo useless haha idk if the buttons im pressing are wrong or what

whenever my inital burst is gone i feel hella confused on what to pres

cus if eel like when im not in stealth im really button deprived, not sure what i should be pressing

[sick wasp]

sin kinda ridiculous now

able to cleave melees

finishing with 150k+ overalls

[sharp sierra]

id play sin but sub is just so cool lmao

[sick wasp]

im into whatever works

im playing mage anyway

but que'd some rmp

[last jasper]

It much easier to play sin or outlaw. Sub is lacking raw damage. You have 2 charges of dance and cdr from vanish

[sick wasp]

our boy is into sin tech

smashing melees

[sharp sierra]

im just gonna have to struggle on sub for a bit it seems till i get the hang of it might have to hang in 2s for awhile, sub is just really cool thats the only reason i dont wanna swap haha

[fallen scaffold]

sin is so overtuned rn wtf

145k dps every ss round this is sick LOL

[last jasper]

Yea I know what are you saying. Tried sub myself. But you need to be really good at him or ppl won’t die

While as assa u just faceroll ur keyboard and do 150k dps

[fallen scaffold]

litrealy

im 6-0ing everything

[last jasper]

Ppl just freaked out and die

[sharp sierra]

it does seem much better but sub cant be that bad in 2s right? xD ive only tried ss so far

[last jasper]

In tea build it lacks crit currently

Should be better with more gear

[sick wasp]

yup in shuffle it should be smashing everything

was talking about 3s

the way mongols zone in shuffle enables sin to just murder everything if played correctly

[sharp sierra]

ill see how it feels after i get the 2 set hte 2 set seems nice

[fallen scaffold]

sin is so fuckin fun rn omg lmao

[last jasper]

It does like 2% of ur dam 😂

Rupture with the aoe talent hits like a truck tho

[fallen scaffold]

kekw

[sick wasp]

reset ur meters/update

also remove the last % column

we had this like 10 years ago

lul

also use dynamic record

[fallen scaffold]

yes father

[harsh steppe]

sub 4 LyFe

[tough spruce]

Thanks for the tips 🙂 on to the solo shuffle grind now

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grind-dont-stop-gif-26421494

[harsh steppe]

which of these do i use

oh looks like spark of awakening mb
is there any way to get a free trophy like there used to be?
don't have enough conq for the one i need 😦

[wintry dew]

You can get 8 per week

It's week 1 so you can only get exactly 8

[harsh steppe]

8 what

[grave basin]

Trophy is from doing any of the PvP activities

The first box you open should give you an item in your bag that looks like a scroll

Turn in that quest

[harsh steppe]

oh hmm do you know what it's called by chance

oh i found it yayyy tysm

am i good to go?

power infusion is just for pve right

[wintry dew]

Thought he meant trophy of strife hehe

[harsh steppe]

yeah i was like wait what lol

can i craft them?

it would make these, just want to make sure i'm not missing anything

[wintry dew]

There's nothing to miss there, they are correct

[harsh steppe]

awesome woot! tysm ❤️

[wintry dew]

Boots + spark + trophy

[harsh steppe]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/try-on-boots-gif-18996745

how i feel rn

[wintry dew]

Nice TMOG actually

[harsh steppe]

tyty

[twin burrow]

oh wow hyper still around

thats a good sign, good guyh yper do you mind telling me the meta spec atm?

for us

@waxen meteor /wave

[wintry dew]

He's too busy kicking ass

[harsh steppe]

LOL hey @twin burrow ty
sin is the strongest atm & godlike

[twin burrow]

cool ill give it a try, any quick tips or tech

played assa s1 but they have sinced reworked it

and thx

[harsh steppe]

no i play sub i’ll leave that to the other guys here

[outer sky]

can someone send me the talent tree string for sub in RBGs?

[tough spruce]

Search shadenox on youtube, best assa content out there

[minor cape]

yo hyper you glad already?

@harsh steppe

😈

[jaunty osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/691060193647394896/1234017115699154985/image.png?ex=662f337f&is=662de1ff&hm=5d46ede211c148a32bb1d086b7540f118dbee5529f51da1885aad4d5de4d13a6&

Big 498k kingsbane

[last jasper]

wtf. I only had it hit for 300k once

Jesus

[waxen meteor]

[gleaming pawn]

Pika posted a video of his murdering people in 3s with assassination. Even though the only difference from s3 is more agility, I’d say assa’s days are numbered

[last jasper]

I said that yesterday

The only thing that saving assa is awc. Pretty sure they wont touch anything before it ends

[jaunty osprey]

Idk it was always crazy damage in S3, but squishy af

I got 2900 Shuffle and was hitting almost the same numbers as now

People just copy whatever streamers do

So now that streamers are playing it, it’s being put in the spotlight as op

[pliant mauve]

That would be some bullshit if they nerf assa after letting DH’s get away for so long. And never mind WW.

[gleaming pawn]

Welcome to Rogue

[last jasper]

I bet they will

[sinful ingot]

assa lasts until people start swapping to dwarf again

[gleaming pawn]

Any time a rogue spec is oppressive, it eats a big nerf. Without fail. And AWC caliber players stomping with Assa means it might not even wait until AWC

Dwarf only helps so much, and it’s very easy to reapply your cleaving dots with IC

[chrome schooner]

In the video he qs into DK or Hunter every game almost

Assa does insane dmg into these comps due to pets

It's a bit of a scam

[gleaming pawn]

True, and he’s playing with Affliction so everyone is just rotting period. But assa is doing numbers regardless

[last jasper]

awc is starting next week. and they have 2 days to post nerfs or it wont happend until it ends

But Im not really sure ppl wont play outlaw again.

[outer sky]

Isn't outlaw top dog in arena right noe?

Now*

As far as rogues are concerned

[stoic spruce]

I'd wait until the season gets a little older until people get gear before we know for sure

Top rogue yes

[outer sky]

I've heard people saying assass is best

I'm like

Have you even played outlaw

[stoic spruce]

Oh yeah

Yeah they're pretty juiced atm but so is Unholy and that won't last for a month or so.

[outer sky]

I will never be on board with assass in arena as long as pallys are a thing

[stoic spruce]

A month is generous too

[outer sky]

A lot of its in my head but I just hate how bad it feels pressing my CDs knowing I have to get through 2 BoPs and a bubble just to have like 1 minute to do damage before the first BoP is back off CD

[stoic spruce]

Kick hpal, win game.

Ezpz

[outer sky]

Outlaw is just so nice. The damage never stops

[stoic spruce]

I think crackshot might be leaving. Or it's going to be it's own cooldown.

[outer sky]

And you don't die so easily

[outer sky]

This season?

[stoic spruce]

Feint uptime 100%

[stoic spruce]

Nah next expac

[outer sky]

Ah ok

[stoic spruce]

There's a slew of bugs that either won't or can't be fixed

[outer sky]

My favorite version of Outlaw will forever be Keep your Wits About You

I miss that so much

[stoic spruce]

What was that again?

I don't think I remember that one

[outer sky]

Every time you cleaved you got an extra 2% chance for SS to hit twice

[stoic spruce]

Oh that's cool

[outer sky]

So in no time every SS would hit twice

It made the Skull buff literally worthless

[stoic spruce]

I think my favorite version of outlaw was funnily enough in SL with Dreadblades/Flag/greenskin

Healthbar deleter

And then everyone went kyrian and took ER

Blech

[outer sky]

I quit in SL after they nerfed the crit leggo into irrelevance

Got my 2400 S1

[stoic spruce]

I have a build I love playing but it's so bad

Even though it has 2 capstone talents

I wonder how it'd be in pvp

[outer sky]

I'm really hoping at some point they reverse the homogenization of the classes that's been occurring over the last few xpacs but it seems like it's only getting worse

[stoic spruce]

No lie

Talenting into SD with all 3 specs is omega sleeper

[outer sky]

Having an MS used to be a unique class advantage

Now everyone has one

And slows are actually stupid right now

[stoic spruce]

But all classes are starting to have a similar issue really

Yeah

I'll be honest

Only warriors, rogues, and unholy DK should have an ms

[outer sky]

Everyone slows by Like 50%+ but also everyone has gap closers so the slows become irrelevant as everyone is just using their mobility more or less on CD

[stoic spruce]

Sub did not need disarm

[outer sky]

Every game is either fighting face to face or kiting with gap closers

[stoic spruce]

You can't have both shadowy duel and disarm lol

That's wild

[last jasper]

who cares about duel if u hit like wet noodle

[outer sky]

Disarm as sub seems kind of lack luster since you shouldn't really be in the fight anyway unless the entire other team in CCd

[stoic spruce]

Goes are still very deadly and that's what matters

Yeah which is weird

[outer sky]

If the sub rogue is peeling for someone else outside of a go then something has gone horribly wrong

[stoic spruce]

Right

How do you manage to fit that in your gameplay?

[stoic spruce]

They didn't play with a mage lolol

[outer sky]

That's another problem with sub

You're hard locked into a mage comp

Outlaw and assass both have a lot more options

[stoic spruce]

I disagree. Moreso setup comps but yeah the other specs have more options.

Like

Sub and fdk is kinda sleeper

It fucks just sayin

[outer sky]

If you're playing sub with a set up comp that doesn't have a mage you may be able to make it work but you'll always be wishing you had a mage

Especially now with how OP frost is

[stoic spruce]

For sure

Also

I'll play rmp

That's fine

[outer sky]

Fire mage sometimes could get into trouble but frost can kite for days and they're so so tanks

[stoic spruce]

But I will never play outlaw rmp

[outer sky]

Tanky*

[stoic spruce]

It feels so weird

[outer sky]

Because outlaw isn't really a set up spec. It's a spec that has the ability to set up

So you feel a little nerfed spending those globals setting up

Outlaw thug feels pretty good

So does outlaw RPS

Outlaw is kinda like a warrior where it CCs because it wants to not because it needs to

[stoic spruce]

Sometimes I send a KS because it's been a while since I've stunned

[outer sky]

Honestly sometimes in 2v2 I'll dance, cheap the healer, cheap the kill target, and wonder if the cheap on the healer was worth the global during crackshot

Like it actually feels better sometimes to just press damage globals for more pressure

And that's at 2300mmr

[stoic spruce]

I hereby declare outlaw rmp to be illegal and punishable by up to 300,000 gold to be paid by each of the persons involved on the opposite team.

[outer sky]

Anyone here figured out how to beat frost mage/
Holy priest in 2v2 reliably?

I think we just lose unless they make a major mistake

Especially if the mage is playing blink stun

[harsh steppe]

ahaha not yet 😉

[minor cape]

road to glad lets goooooo

[stoic spruce]

RAHHHHHH

[harsh steppe]

wake me up when it's tuesday

[prisma saddle]

What talents are sub rogues running and why does sempsis thistle build hit like a wet noodle, having much more success with cold blood

[surreal barn]

Everyone rocking green gear which is loaded with versatility

That will change in 2-3 weeks

@waxen meteor you on your hunter at all? Once you have 2pc it’s insane lol

[waxen meteor]

No, doing SP this season

[steel scarab]

As an assassination rogue, should I have any more gear than all pvp greens, the conquest dagger, and the Life Bound Boots with the blue silken on them?

So 2 epics

I'd craft another piece but I don't know if it's possible to have 2 sparks at this point?

2000 rating might be my limit at this point, games are getting very difficult

I'm also running into a lot of people throwing, like they'll go 0-3 and then either leave or just not participate in the last 3 matches

[wintry dew]

why you doing dungeons? xD

[rocky osprey]

Wich build u actually running and what is the rotation? Im learning assaRogue and still feel like i have no impact in the game or cant really feel like im making big Dps

Ty

[harsh steppe]

LOL ikr

[steel scarab]

I did it boys

I'm using the exact same build everyone else uses because Dragon Tempered Blades is 100% non-viable

[harsh steppe]

WOOT get itttt

[steel scarab]

If it makes you feel better, most matches I do not do the most dps

It's more about using your Dance windows to create pressure and interrupting the critical plays the opponents make

Than it is about just pure dps

If you want pure dps pressure rogue definitely wasn't it last season and I don't think this season either

[harsh steppe]

not cold blood but having a lot of success with this one if it helps
BUQAcWb37Z8KXj8LlE1rTPXfsBAk0SAAAAAAItkkUSEkikEiAHIJJRi0SJJJlWIcgkIgSEAAAASgA

[steel scarab]

Do I get a weapon enchant this season for Duelist or was that last season only?

[lucid citrus]

you got a weapon enchant for hitting 2100

@steel scarab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X1GvBtfgxk

should be this one

[steel scarab]

Oh, it didn't pop up in the text bar, but I do see it in the transmog section, very cool!

[nova sentinel]

What should I spend my Conquest on first and then second, should I craft a piece with the pvp reagent?

[harsh steppe]

weapon

[nova sentinel]

Okz, ty

[idle root]

bro i swear to god, 4 out of 5 my blitz games were temple of kotmogu

this map is fucking dogshit

[harsh steppe]

depends what spec are you

for the crafting

[surreal ravine]

how u got the pvp reagent

[nova sentinel]

Sub

[harsh steppe]

for sub yes, you'll want the infurious boots of indemnity, i actually got mine today!
so you get the reagent by accepting a quest you get in from your first pvp weekly i believe
look in your inv & you should have it, accept it, go turn it in at the conq vendor, he'll give you two trophies
go to the crafting auction person, type in infurious boots of indemnity
it will pull up the rest of the ingrediants, buy them at the auction house
the last thing you'll need is a spark
bring them all back to the crafting auctioneer person & place an order, you can preview what it will be when it's complete

[surreal ravine]

I did rated bg;s and finished the weekly quest

but no trophies ?

oh i got it

lol

thx

[harsh steppe]

np

[jolly sierra]

looking for a fkn bladefist and already gave away a white chocobo cuz already had one

[vocal surge]

Got a lot done on Classic

time to pvp myself out in Retail for max vault

till I cant stay up anylonger lol

[gleaming pawn]

queue for SS and blitz, you'll be done in no time

[vocal surge]

Gotta do WQs & the weekly for spark + WPvP epic gear

also to start the SS queues with a conq weapon already

[nova sentinel]

Does Blitz count for vault?

[gleaming pawn]

yes as of this season

[nova sentinel]

Niiice

[jolly sierra]

ANOTHER ONE

WTF

[fallen scaffold]

why r ppl gearing haste over crit for 3rd stat as assa

faster bleed dmg better than the crit, rly?

[jolly sierra]

are they?

[gleaming pawn]

no one is gearing anything right now

it's the end of week 1, and people are wearing 90% honor gear

[jaunty osprey]

🥱

[jolly sierra]

at least they didnt hardcapped this time

[fallen scaffold]

i guess gearing is wrong word. murlok shows more people "choosing" haste over crit but ya probably means nothing in big picture now that i think about it lol

[jaunty osprey]

ya

this was a freshish char too, i didnt queue it last season

havent queued my main yet though

[jolly sierra]

oof

sounds nice

gotta try in reset tho

now im trying to get TW bladefist w my old rog

[jaunty osprey]

im waiting for tuesday to min-max gear

[jolly sierra]

im thinking in the dinar too

[jaunty osprey]

gonna use bullion to buy vers mastery raid dagger

ye

[jolly sierra]

ye

sounds like one of the best options

[jaunty osprey]

im hoping i get vers mastery brackenhide ring from vault

[waxen meteor]

It seems the fire ring is very good?

[jaunty osprey]

no

[waxen meteor]

Cause we are lack of fire dmg I guess?

[jaunty osprey]

stats are very meh

and we have no way of proccing the ring

[waxen meteor]

Yeah stats are meh

Shadowflame patch

[jaunty osprey]

gtg

[jolly sierra]

got the ring in my +0 dungeon

should be good to start doing plus

and getting decent upgrades for that dagger

[jolly sierra]

FINALLY GOT THE FKN BLADEFIST W THE ROG

AFTER LIKE 2 DAYS

now i can do pvp

[nova sentinel]

But you can only use it in Spanish games

[jolly sierra]

ye, doesnt works like in pokemon

lucky day got the dagger which can be socketable x2 in TW

[grave basin]

Is there any point getting these tw items ?

[jolly sierra]

mage tower

[sharp sierra]

has anyone here used skill capped monthly and found it was actually worth it? looking to improve really fast on sub rogue and was wonderign peoples experience

[wanton breach]

Daga

[jolly sierra]

kotowaru

[harsh steppe]

gz!

[wanton breach]

could be useful for magetower if you are missing that

[grave basin]

Aren't the rogue ones p easy

I remember I just got SOO gear with the triple gem slots and the aoe ground poison trinket

Which made a huuuuuuge difference

From first boss of xavius raid

[grave basin]

Man watching pikas new vid has me itching to try assa

[thin rain]

Hey🙂 just a quick question! Anyone else having problems with secret technique doing a bit low damage? Just noticed it from testing around abit.

[sharp sierra]

think sub is just weak atm D: i feel the same way

[thin rain]

Yeah it tops around 300k with cold blood, though I’m pretty new to sub rogue. Thanks for the answer anyways😃

[harsh steppe]

yes sub is weakest spec atm 😦

what are trophies of strife for? i can get wpvp gear without it, i can get my conq gear with conq, so not sure what these strife trophies are for

[sharp sierra]

its for the purple wpvp gear

also would anyone know how i can get the draconic crafting gear? the ones that make ur crafted piece 528 ilvl

i got it on one of my alts auto but not on my main

[harsh steppe]

ohhhh thank you thank you fewf almost just bought the regular wpvp weap lol you saved me

[sharp sierra]

yeah haha a lot of ppl gear alts easy by the trophy of strife weapons

[harsh steppe]

can you check rq how much the cudgel is?

[sharp sierra]

ahh sorry i would have but i just went to go do a daily

[harsh steppe]

nw

[sharp sierra]

is it a one handed?

if it is its 7 trophies and 400 bt

[harsh steppe]

yes one handed offhand ok tysm!

400 oof

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[last jasper]

Drop cb. Mine does 300 with a tea build. Non crit

[harsh steppe]

turn in quest from pvp weekly
go to crafting auctioneer, type in your crafted item
get all mats it shows

[thin rain]

Thanks a lot for the answers!

[harsh steppe]

❤️
lmk if you need more help later

[harsh steppe]

what's the name of the talent that if you were going to die, just reduces you to like 1% or something?

[wintry dew]

Cheat death

Rogue talent tree