pvp

[waxen meteor]

i guess casters will take precog, others will take -15%

[gleaming pawn]

some will, sure

but the 15% reduced damage during all CC especially stuns is huge

[waxen meteor]

yeah it's huge

even some casters may go with that

[gleaming pawn]

that's almost a feint, at all times

[umbral crest]

I’m guessing anything prone to dying in stuns will go for that

[gleaming pawn]

now imagine we keep most of the trash trickster tree, and outlaw has 100% uptime on feint AND the 15% further reduction

[waxen meteor]

every spec can, probably other than mage

but precog is also big for casters

like for affli lock, yeah, getting hit 24/7 and high danger in stun

but one precog could means all dots on whole team

[gleaming pawn]

the stacking damage on snares is noob trap though

[waxen meteor]

it doesn't look appealing

but i mean even if it's good dmg

probably would still go for -15% during stun

[gleaming pawn]

there is no world where you would ever take it over the reduced damage taken in CC

[waxen meteor]

unless they nerf kidney and all stun one more time to 4 seconds

[gleaming pawn]

it would see it's most potent use against a rogue

[waxen meteor]

yeah

it's a mandatory choice in duel

[gleaming pawn]

and you're trolling if you took that instead of the stun damage reduction

[waxen meteor]

precog just better in 3s probably

2 melee + shammy against affli without precog

[umbral crest]

I can see warlock going precog, I’m guessing stuff like evokers will go for the DR

[waxen meteor]

depends on intreuption amount/range in other team and how many schools you have

some casters don't really care

they cast different schools

[umbral crest]

Might not be too easy to swap them early season depending on

The gem itself might be time gated, if not the socket probably will be?

[gleaming pawn]

socket probably is

[umbral crest]

Unless they go back to sockets on head

[gleaming pawn]

the gem will likely be ~700 conq

[waxen meteor]

anyway it's 11.0

[umbral crest]

Meta gems or whatever

[waxen meteor]

when it comes

might have been nerfed to ground

15% becomes 5%

[umbral crest]

5% damage reduction for 3 seconds

[waxen meteor]

or becomes 25% if sub is good

[umbral crest]

45 sec CD

[waxen meteor]

if 25% with 45 sec cd, basically means our first go becoomes fake go?

[umbral crest]

First go is just cross-cc stun and get the hell out for go 2

No need to actually hit them

[waxen meteor]

well

sap counts too

just sap all three and be gone

[umbral crest]

I’m going to bet that you’re gonna need to be in combat if they add a CD

[gleaming pawn]

that's why it would not have such a long cd

[umbral crest]

Unless it’s like evokers using their shroud out the gates

[gleaming pawn]

mass entangle, mass poly, frost nova, dragon root, dragon stun

[umbral crest]

And getting sapped x4

[gleaming pawn]

tons of aoe CC that would trigger such a CD

[waxen meteor]

DAMN, almost 1on3 in a skirmish

i should have waited cd after killing 2

[harsh steppe]

do i need to worry about keeping slice & dice up still? or is that up on it's own mostly

[waxen meteor]

good to have, okay to miss a bit while

[pearl pasture]

Hello! just started assassination rogue hoping to play it for season 4. I was wondering if there's a general guideline on when to use fan of knives vs mutilate for cp builders in solo shuffle. is it mutilate if there's only 1 target within my range and if there's 2 or more, I use FoK?

[fallen scaffold]

only use fan. mut sux big dik

[pearl pasture]

oh damn so fan all the time (except poly/blind and stuff)?

[fallen scaffold]

yep

[pearl pasture]

that simplifies things haha thank you very much

[fallen scaffold]

unless u play the shitty bone spike / doomblade build

[pearl pasture]

indiscrimiate carnage and the crimson tempest build is the one I kinda copied over

[fallen scaffold]

ya 100% fok

[pearl pasture]

perfect, thank you very much 😄

[jolly sierra]

use fan of knives as main combo source, mut is for breaking totems mostly

[pearl pasture]

Ah okay good to know thank you!

[sick wasp]

15min shuffle ques

probably gets better above 1.8-1.9

but this sucks

im getting bored

[jolly sierra]

i played all fkn day w lock

the rumours were true

weekends are easy af

for pvp

[sick wasp]

ofc its the best days to que

and friday night

lots of ppl n stuff

[jolly sierra]

friday actually was my worst day w lock

dropped like 200 CR

saturday however

[sick wasp]

on my mage ild go like an elevator

each day

[jolly sierra]

im bad af as lock BTW

[sick wasp]

2-2.1=>1.7

[jolly sierra]

that can be a thing too

[sick wasp]

its the lobbies

[jolly sierra]

its the only caster i actually tolerate

[sick wasp]

like what can u do if u que into 2 shammies 2 hunters 1 dh

[jolly sierra]

in my last one had 2 DHs and a sp

[sick wasp]

dhs must be the most dog class

for pvp

legit garbage

everytime i see them dash behind pillars i press everything and they die

brainlet class

anyway

i think hpally might be cool next season

but its boring

up until now mage never let me down,its fun and all,love it

hunter is cool

im gonna try DK as well some time

and monk ofc

that mount is mine

period

[jolly sierra]

dhs are the most dumb class overall

yeah

dunno how tf ppl doesnt feel filthy after using one

specially mains

[pine badge]

i hate dh

0% of my brain wants to play it

[still abyss]

so what's the best way to dump all this useless conquest before season ends?

[jolly sierra]

conquest boxes

u need 1k4 as min to unlock them in sale from vendor

[sick wasp]

im sharding them for next season

[still abyss]

oyu mean I just open them and sell the item?

[sick wasp]

gonna make some early gold from enchanting

[sick wasp]

gear an alt,disenchant them,sell for raw gold

there are choices

[still abyss]

affirmative

[lavish idol]

Sigh, I can't quite push rival this season. Been high 1770s multiple times and then get some comp where I get punished as main target

Really wanted to do it as outlaw, maybe the problem. The thing is, I rarely see any rogues vs atm

Using these talents for fights with a stun in it, switching to if caster heavy... would this seem sensible? I feel like I miss smokebomb

[untold remnant]

I suggest to take Enduring Brawler baseline, personally I take Take your Cut baseline too.

Then I play disarm where it is a boon to have: other rogue, warrior, ret, MM hunt

I take the stun buff talent where there is lot of stun and I don’t need disarm

I take either smoke bomb or boarding party vs ranger.

Currently 2200 in shuffle on Outlaw and 2060 in 3s

So not the best player in the world

[lavish idol]

@untold remnant do you often find you're bottom of dmg meter

This appear to be my problem

Good tips though, thanks. Take your cut is nice indeed

[untold remnant]

Very match to match dependent. Sometimes I’m blasting with blade flurry cleave and I do 115k dps and top the meter. Other times I’m more focused on control and short burst.

Good thing about outlaw is that you can do both and live pretty well

[lavish idol]

I just had a game with 4 melee, ass rog, fury warr, ench shaman. It was crazy, and at first I thought ok will do some good dmg with bf. It was okay, but the others all outdid me. I was trying to get a nice gouge blind stun on heal so maybe explains the fall of output, but didn't even up well for me with 2 wins only 😦

[harsh steppe]

what are the top skills I need to constantly be aware of as sub? i have a really smol brain... so i need like 6 skills close to the center of my screen, more than that my brain explodes lol
everything else i can use weakauras for and put at the bottom, but trying to figure out what 6 i need to leave in the middle
gm all ❤️

[untold remnant]

Outlaw is really gear dependent, I was playing with sub gear and did trash. Swapped to 46% versatility and 38% crit and saw my damage go up significantly

[sick wasp]

u rly dont need anything outside dr trackers for pvp

using WA packs isnt something critically needed for pvp

omnibar is a cool thing to have

[harsh steppe]

ok ty
yes i got to get my addons again

what are the most important addons I have to have? i want as least as possible

[sick wasp]

target of target is also good coz u pretty much know what ppl target at any given situation,easier to predict stuff that way

[harsh steppe]

ok ty
target of focus good too right?

[sick wasp]

target of target encopses all

focus target is still a target,so u see what ur focus target targets

[lavish idol]

fuck me 6 straight losses, I want to cry

I feel like outlaw doesn't last too long if you have a heavy melee and caster on you

[harsh steppe]

you got this keep going ❤️

[sick wasp]

outlaw is pretty strong into any brawl scenario but u cant rly have a lock or a mage free casting on you

i solo highend geared hpalies on my mage

[lavish idol]

I'm so emotional now your well wishes actually helped haha

[sick wasp]

outlaws isnt rly a problem

[lavish idol]

Yeah any match I am trying to convince them to tunnel the caster

[sick wasp]

Its not about tunnel anything

its about constant swapping for those gouges and kses

and kill when uve got the opportunity

[lavish idol]

I do this too, but I think this is where the dps loss is

[sick wasp]

ofc tis a dps loss

[lavish idol]

using DR addon only too

[sick wasp]

outlaw isnt rly ideal in doing dmg in arena anyway

compared to sin or sub that is

[lavish idol]

Honestly in the last ... month? or so, I think I saw 1 sub rogure

[sick wasp]

outlaw excels in controlling and brawling

[lavish idol]

and about 10 or so assass

0 outlaw

[sick wasp]

outlaw is very strong in coordinated groups

like yday all rank 1 rogues streamed outlaw rmps

[harsh steppe]

wow rly

[sick wasp]

3.1+

yeah

ive fallen asleep watching twitch yday

[lavish idol]

Yeah I think if I was better, and climbed, it might actually be easier and other classes know how to play with me

at the moment it's a rat race

[sick wasp]

pretty much

in lower ratings and especially in shuffles no one rly cares to utilize a team comp

they just go in do as muchd mg as they can and kill before die

barely qualifies as rated pvp

[umbral crest]

I see mostly outlaw and assassination, you rarely ever see the spec you play yourself though

[lavish idol]

I prefer solo because I'`m done with the toixity of RBG (even though I actually enjoy them)

[umbral crest]

Outlaw basically just spams cc on everything it feels like, makes it difficult to play a caster/MM, in my experience

[sick wasp]

yup

outlaw is pain to handle

so much disrupt

[umbral crest]

Outlaw and DK lobbies are definitely chaotic at lower ratings, warriors too sometimes

[lavish idol]

Yea, I think the main reason for the loss is on average even if you're doing all the good cc and trying to control the fight, you're dependent on the other guy to do the dmg when needed and you need to align that damage too

[sick wasp]

has grapple+step+bladerush so it can gapclose at anygiven time

so cringe

[lavish idol]

I think another thing I do too much is blow it all at the start and get cc'd to hell

Maybe I need to hold off a bit and get all the insta fears and stuns out of the way then blow up

[umbral crest]

I see outlaws continually pumping damage and disrupting the main target and then using cc on the other DPS when they’re close enough, I don’t see outlaws go for cc on the healer etc as often as the other specs

but that's just what I've seen

[sick wasp]

u shouldnt hold alot unless u are into specific tactics

u need to apply pressure

full send

[lavish idol]

I think because if you do go out to get the heal they often have a cc for you too

[sick wasp]

if u are forced to trinekt before them u ar epretty much dead

[umbral crest]

play like a warrior 😛

[sick wasp]

thats not a problem,thats a healer issue if u dont get dispelled

outlaw is pretty much a better version of fury

imagine holding evasion and clos as outlaw

thats criminal

[umbral crest]

Fury has ridiculous damage though, seen some do 120k dps (2 targets) in shuffles lasting 2-3 min

[sick wasp]

thats not even alot^^

[umbral crest]

Might be more then

[sick wasp]

there are classes that can do 150k+ in a 2min game

[umbral crest]

I might be forgetting the numbers but the fury did the same as the other three, had it happen a lot recently

[sick wasp]

but ye fury ofc does more dmg

[umbral crest]

This is like 1700 on an alt healer though

[lavish idol]

All I really want is to complete the set for rival 😛 but this season ran out of time

If I understood it, I could get it s4

[sick wasp]

u can do rival pretty fast if u get like 4-5 good lobbies

[lavish idol]

Was 1775 or so this morning and was ready, thought it was my time. 1-5 losses, nearly cried

I feel like rogue is hard time to climb out of that 1650-1700 mess

[sick wasp]

dotn get intimitated brother

[umbral crest]

S4 is the same set supposedly so should be fine

[sick wasp]

its pvp,it happens

[umbral crest]

You can just play for now without the pressure since you’ve got another chance

[lavish idol]

true

[sick wasp]

do like a thousand shuffles if u can

or more before season ends

next season u will be flying

[harsh steppe]

which one do i want

[umbral crest]

Gladiusex or sArena are the common ones afaik

[harsh steppe]

tyty

[sick wasp]

whatever works,it doesnt matter which is the most poppular

just make sure to track diminishing returns CD(thats an embodied gladius feature,press /gladius and activate it)

and learn what stuff shares dr to what

[harsh steppe]

omnibar or nameplatecooldowns?

[sick wasp]

whatever u find more comfortable

at this point its like giving us ur rogue to play with

omnibar is on the bottom center of your screen

nameplates requires platter

[harsh steppe]

jw what yall prefer

[sick wasp]

which heavies ur UI

and limits ur vision

its mostly a caster/healer thing

[harsh steppe]

ah ok tyty

[sick wasp]

only last advice i could give u is not overloading ur UI with stupid sht

keep it clean

[harsh steppe]

do i need diminish? says discontinued
but i can see DRs with gladius right

yes def i want as few as possible

[sick wasp]

u just need 1 source of information which u can rely on

to track DRs

its simple

dont use 10 addon and gladius to track drs

its stupid and of no use

if u use gladius stick with gladius

[harsh steppe]

ok sweet tysm

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-gif-22861535

ok so i have: bigdebuffs, gladiusex, omnicd, omnibar, & omnicc
do i need all 3 of those omni ones with the others?

also what are the most important WA packs to have? i see mes WAs mentioned a lot, anything else?

[umbral crest]

There's a WA telling you when your healer is in CC, that's pretty useful'

[sick wasp]

omnicd or omnibar u dont need both

omnicc is the cooldown counter to all skills omnicd is self explanatory

you see all cds

omnibar something like omnicd just a bit more chaotic

u dont rly need alot,keep it simple

gladius literally provides u with all the information u need

wa's,sound indications are all garbage

go in,que and train

there will be 10 diff ppl say what they find its useful for any given situation in arena

u dont need 90% of those

[umbral crest]

I'd say WA is nice since you can customise it yourself, haven't got much on rogue but it can be nice to track buffs etc with no other UI indicators

[harsh steppe]

yes i know jw what yall thought since you guys are all pros 😉

ty all so much for your help ❤️
r1 soonTM

[sick wasp]

not even close on being a pro friend,just an old rogue with tens of thousands of arena games on his belt

dont overthink or try accumulate stuff quickly

go slow but learn

its a process

keep it simple,u will learn more through simplicity

[harsh steppe]

well i know mage disarmer is a pro, he is a god amongst men
everywhere i go, they chant, "PRAISE MAGE DISARMER" right @jolly sierra?

new season tomorrow or next day?

[idle tulip]

New season at reset.

[harsh steppe]

this guy said in 5m?

idk when reset is sorry 😦

[idle tulip]

Tuesday for NA

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24064845/dragonflight-season-3-ends-on-april-22

[umbral crest]

Wednesday for EU

[idle tulip]

^

[harsh steppe]

tysm ❤️

[surreal barn]

To queue tonight or tomorrow 🤔

One rogues bracket is busted. I have a feeling the other two will go the same lol

[idle tulip]

LF rogues to be a guest on my podcast to talk about PVP and one of the specs (your choice).

[harsh steppe]

what is the poison applied with Shiv?

[wintry dew]

What podcast are you running?

[jolly sierra]

crippling poison

[idle tulip]

Technically PVP

[harsh steppe]

ty
and i pretty much want to always cast it off CD right

[jolly sierra]

no

u are not assa

[harsh steppe]

just when peeling?

[jolly sierra]

u do that when u wanna chase down someone or run

[wintry dew]

Is it new? I haven't heard of it

[jolly sierra]

no it isnt

is for season

ppl insisted me to join one xd

last time

[idle tulip]

no. we've been running for many years now. over 200 episodes

[idle tulip]

why didn't you?

[jolly sierra]

language issues to followup the chat flow

[idle tulip]

fair

[wintry dew]

~My bad fam, Had no idea that type of podcast existed. The only WoW related podcast i've been hearing these past few years is "The Starting Zone"

[idle tulip]

No worries. I've been bad at promoting

[wintry dew]

You got yourself another follower and a 5* spotify review (once i can actually review since i need to listen to some eps first)

[idle tulip]

Thank you so much!

[last jasper]

or fuck with warrior 😄

[umbral crest]

Do they lose much from the enrage?

[sick wasp]

try shadenox or raz

ild be happy to hear one of those,both rank 1 rogues,both volturing here

[idle tulip]

I sent @chrome schooner a DM. 😉 thanks!

[sick wasp]

raz has probably more rank 1s than the entire discord server

just sayin^^

[idle tulip]

Which Raz would that be here? nvm. found him

@tawny kestrel

Would you be interested?

[tawny kestrel]

no thx

[idle tulip]

OK

[proven sapphire]

Does anyone know why Assassination specs takes me out of stealth when I press mount

or any action

when im sub rogue this doesnt happen

[wintry dew]

subterfuge

[proven sapphire]

huge

ty

[last jasper]

fr? never notice that

[stoic spruce]

Mr. Transmog doesn't know what he's talking about pffft

[proven sapphire]

yeah using eye glass takes u out of stealth unless u take subterfuge

same with vanish > mount

for escape

[wintry dew]

[proven sapphire]

[proven sapphire]

saved me hours

of headache

trying to figure out

why sub did it

but no other spec

[last jasper]

I tought this basic stealth 😄

[wintry dew]

Mr.Tmog is here to save the day

[last jasper]

Does anyone know of something similar to the Smarttabtarget addon?

[sick wasp]

sry thought you are the best we got 🫶

[jolly sierra]

are they finally thinking in us?

[umbral crest]

That last one sounds nice

assassination tends to get a lot of KBs

[nova sentinel]

What class do think has it easiest for Randi battle grounds?

[wintry dew]

Ranged classes

[nova sentinel]

Mm Hunter seems to be doing well. Boomkins too

[last jasper]

mm known as noob killer

[nova sentinel]

That Sniper shot....way too much dmg

[umbral crest]

MM is fun in BGs, you basically oneshot people from twice their range

Wouldn't want to main it though

[harsh steppe]

do i need to switch to horde for the racial bonus as blood elf? i’m void

[halcyon timber]

Yep

[wintry dew]

Why would you want that tho

[harsh steppe]

i’m not sure which racial is better for sub
but i’m only playing void or blood, sexiness > ranking

[last jasper]

whatever u like more

[wintry dew]

If you want to choose for power --> nelf / orc / human

[harsh steppe]

🤮

[last jasper]

Who knows what appearance I would get if u put crafted gear into catalyst

Need a head from normal 😂

[umbral crest]

You can't, right?

[wintry dew]

Wmode pvp upgraded = normal

i mean i can't be sure if it get normal appearence right away of if you need to upgrade the item a few times (pve ilvl) till you reach normal threshold

Or just get a veteran piece of gear, catalyst it and upgrade it to 5/8

[last jasper]

u sure? Cuz I recall getting just glad version of it

[wintry dew]

From warmode pvp items?

[last jasper]

yea, for bloody tokens, right?

[wintry dew]

yeah, those dont give PvP appearences

[last jasper]

with weekly strafe or whatever it called

[wintry dew]

yeah

Im 99% sure you can just use a warmode upgraded item to get both LFR and normal appearances

[last jasper]

hmm.. it gaved me pvp conq appearence instead :\

at least it was like that a few months ago

[wintry dew]

It was never like that

I've been abusing the system to complete all the rogue sets

[last jasper]

okay, so bloody pieace with strafe should end up with normal, right?

Or I need to upgade it more?

[wintry dew]

up to 5/8

between 1-4 its the LFR appearance

[last jasper]

oh, I see. Thats why I prob got just conq appearence when I tried

tnx, mate

[wintry dew]

wait

i got a belt on my rogue alt

ill test it for you real quick

[last jasper]

4\8 is deff lfr

[wintry dew]

1-4 LFR, 5 is normal mode

[last jasper]

❤️ awesome

[wintry dew]

Champion 1-4 normal tmog, 5 heroic tmog

[harsh steppe]

best 2 options for 2s partners?

[wintry dew]

mage

priest

Priest being discipline, afaik

[harsh steppe]

ok cool tysm

[wintry dew]

@jolly sierra this illusion is so extra:

[harsh steppe]

omfgggg i neeeeed

[wintry dew]

Its a RNG problem

Cataclysm raid - Blackwind Descend - Last boss drop

(just do it on 25 man mode for extra loot)

[last jasper]

jesus.. emerald dream is current sparks location

and I just cleaned 50% of the quests there

[wintry dew]

I can in theory help you, but its probably easier for you to complete the remaining WQ's for the 10% each, get treasures for 5% and then i could try to log on the opposite faction and let you kill me for a bit

[jolly sierra]

that was cool af in cata

but shadowflame is still the spiritual successor

[wintry dew]

I have the AliExpress version

[surreal barn]

lol

[wintry dew]

I really NEED the personal tabard

[last jasper]

Just had war chest disappeared right at my nose 😄

[wintry dew]

NOOO

~I enjoy looking OG, but i still want a tabard to match, and i don't have the more black TCG ones

[jolly sierra]

shadowflame in home:

[jolly sierra]

if u were horde then AB tabard would be your option

[wintry dew]

Yeah ik 😐

this one looks pretty cool too

the wings color kinda match the t3

[jolly sierra]

ye

lemme see

[harsh steppe]

what spec?

[jolly sierra]

the best in that season

[wintry dew]

[jolly sierra]

what bout illidari green tabard?

[wintry dew]

grew tired of it :c

I wanted the OG argent tabard

[jolly sierra]

klaxxi tabard?

[jolly sierra]

F

[wintry dew]

Scryers is probably the best match

[jolly sierra]

and the TCG black tabard?

[wintry dew]

that's the one i want and HOPE appears on the amazon prime

[jolly sierra]

wait

no

look

[harsh steppe]

id tap it

[wintry dew]

Yeah i got it but idk, i just don't personaly like that one even tho it fits, panda brother

[jolly sierra]

maybe is the chest

[wintry dew]

Give me Void

Yes, as a tmog point of view, this sucks balls. But for people that played thruought the expansions, especially since the start PRE transmog, where you could judge a guy for his equiped gear / "tmog"

[jolly sierra]

when using bad gear which looks cool was used as "roleplay"

[wintry dew]

I remember those days man

I love Argent Dawn EU, there are still players USING the items without Tmog

[jolly sierra]

oof

those ones are very old fashioned then

[wintry dew]

They, looking at people with TMOG on

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-guess-what-look-down-gif-13228824

Okay Sorry PVP channel, i've filled the chat with enough tmog related topics for a week

[jolly sierra]

tbh i hate item type restrictions when cosmetic sets exists

[wintry dew]

We will get a lot of cosmetic sets next exp

[jolly sierra]

like a cloth vest and being used even as plates but not the cloth briefs from vanilla

[last jasper]

yo, thanks for the tip. I didn't knew chest gives so much.

[wintry dew]

You bet i try everything to make my life easier, especially now that those "spark farm groups" are non existant

[wintry dew]

The only thing i can understand is... You won't look at a mage wearing heavy plate armor and be like "nah this makes sense fr"

[last jasper]

hmm.. no cost for an upgrade?

I need 5\8 right?

[wintry dew]

Its because you've already upgraded an item to 6/8 on that slot

[wintry dew]

Yes

Once you upgrade an item for the first time to X level, the crests required are reduced to 0 for further items

[last jasper]

prolly cuz I had a piece from 1.6 token. Dont recall I upgrade 😄

[jolly sierra]

hmmm u know

i can have very heavy pieces with leather actually and look like a warrior

[last jasper]

fr? is this blizzard game are we talking? 😄

[wintry dew]

Man this as been like this since s2 xD

[wintry dew]

Yes you're right

[last jasper]

haven't played pve since SL. So I never knew since pvp gear is maxed out in arena. cool

[wintry dew]

i'm not a PvP'er like you guys, i just reach 1800 with 1 to 3 classes per season and never pvp again until next season

i mostly play for tmog, which requires me to raid atleast heroic

[last jasper]

I would’ve run a few Mythic+ too, but 80% of my Battle.net are russian, and as you know, they don’t play WoW anymore

So I just farm 1.8 on my alts

[wintry dew]

i just pug

[jolly sierra]

look im w my lock RN

[last jasper]

I tried once. Spent 20 minutes in LFG and queued solo

[wintry dew]

Yeah exactly, cosmetics FTW.

[last jasper]

damn, why I didn't ask earlier.

[wintry dew]

Anything Tmog related, #transmog might have the answers for you

Vault didn't have a way to cheese Raidfinder tmog, i wouldn't force myself to do LFR

[last jasper]

mythic?

that rogue red is dope

[wintry dew]

I have all sets from this expansion but LFR vault

[surreal barn]

I got the LFR ones by no mythic and some heroic

[last jasper]

Just curious how did u got mythic?

[wintry dew]

heroic raiding / m+

Heroic drops Hero gear, and when you upgrade it to 480, you get the mythic appearance

same with mythic +16

[last jasper]

Cool

They actually did a great job this expansion

[wintry dew]

Yeah it was COOKED for tmog farmers like myself

Oh Egoist idk if you know already but

When Warbands get released later in s4 / prepatch (?), you'll be able to learn the appearance of ANY item (Specific class tiers are one of the exceptions) once you loot it with any character

Example: Looting the tusks of mannoroth on your rogue, and your warrior being able to use the tmog

[last jasper]

Yea, I know that. Not that I’m a big tmog farmer. But this is great feature

[wintry dew]

Yeah but lets say you NEED to farm a dungeon or something for a weapon. Atleast 100% of the time you're spending doing that is being rewarded for future alts

[stoic spruce]

Pffffttttt

[wintry dew]

What!? xD

[stoic spruce]

Oh youuuu

[wintry dew]

What me :C

@jolly sierra Already testing for when the personal tabard gets released

[jolly sierra]

need to to that later

[last jasper]

@jolly sierra a few lock games and 2month rest consumed

thannks to hunter players 😄

[jolly sierra]

same

got a match with a BM monk

wtf

the guy dragged me away from plataform

[last jasper]

lmao

i felt like im the only target on arena

[idle tulip]

seems no one I ask wants to talk about rogues

[wintry dew]

I'd see it more like "people are shy about talking to a big public"

[jolly sierra]

i would if ppl speaks spanish

[idle tulip]

I wish I spoke more languages.

[jolly sierra]

dont worry

[wintry dew]

Writting in english is pretty easy

Now speaking? oof.

I can but the further the conversation goes, the more i lack the vocabulary to keep it clean

[harsh steppe]

habla espanol Mage?

[jolly sierra]

si

[jolly sierra]

or they speak way too fast to understand at moment

specially if ppl are non natives like us lol

[harsh steppe]

muy bien
necissito practico mi espanol para las chicas calientes

[wintry dew]

I'm fine in understanding english since everything i watch in youtube is in english, and all the podcast i hear aswell

LOL HYPER

[jolly sierra]

LOL

WHAT THE HECK

XDDD

[umbral crest]

The only Spanish sentences I can form are not very nice... my roommate in Taiwan taught me 😂

[wintry dew]

Puta madre goes with everything

its like "fuck"

[jolly sierra]

he said "UN FORASTERO AVISAD A LOS DEMÁS"

or "EEEEEEE ACÁAAAAA"

[umbral crest]

It's just a nice way to greet strangers in spanish, hola mi(s) maricón(es?)/maricóna(s?)

I used it every time I met a spanish speaker who wasn't a nun/priest

[jolly sierra]

"hola conchetumare"

[wintry dew]

IF you approach Brazilian people you can also say something like that "Olá Veado"

Its a nice and respectful way to say hello

[jolly sierra]

gibe moni plox

[wintry dew]

M0rdekaizer numero uni

hueheuheuheuheuh

[jolly sierra]

BR BR BR BR BR

[harsh steppe]

on my 3rd day of customizing everything, fixing my ui, fixing addons, correcting macros, & finishing my weakauras
remind me not to ever quit wow again

[wintry dew]

OH HOW I FEEL YOU MATE

[umbral crest]

Always save your ui

[gleaming pawn]

it technically never ends

[last jasper]

this innocent soul. adorable

[gleaming pawn]

I just got done making minor tweaks to the WA packs I built for Rogue and Paladin, and completely overhauling my Plater profile

[harsh steppe]

let me see yall's screens i'm curious

[wintry dew]

wrong screenshot

[gleaming pawn]

bruh

[gleaming pawn]

I caught only part of that

Royal sus

[wintry dew]

oh i can show

wait

[harsh steppe]

very nice

[stoic spruce]

How often does assa throw knives in arena

[wintry dew]

https://9gag.com/gag/azxgnmp first and second comment

is what i had on screenshot

[harsh steppe]

mage yours looks nice too but you're killing me with all this empty space right here lol

[gleaming pawn]

no no

[last jasper]

wait untill u see his debuff setup 😄

[gleaming pawn]

it's physically impossible to compliment Panda's UI

you need to see it while he is in combat

[umbral crest]

What resolution are you playing? 😮

[last jasper]

it seems urs even bigger than mine

[jolly sierra]

rlly lol

[jolly sierra]

1764x932

[umbral crest]

Figured, large UI 😄

Think I had some other non-standard resolution a few years ago as well, worked well though

[potent pivot]

dios mio

[gleaming pawn]

didn't you get a new PC last year, why so small

[harsh steppe]

dagger & what rn is best?

[gleaming pawn]

double dagger for Sub

[jolly sierra]

OOF its trickz run

[last jasper]

Claw oh, dagger main

[jolly sierra]

its fine for me

sec

[gleaming pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/what-blink-big-eyes-stare-glasses-gif-16970879

[jolly sierra]

1920 x 1080

i dont use it in fullscreen

just in window

[gleaming pawn]

as long as it works for you, more power to you 🙂

[jolly sierra]

me stronk

[last jasper]

And I thought ur debuff icons were strange 😂

[jolly sierra]

XD

yeah yeah i know my fkn UI is a meme

here

but for me it works

lol

[harsh steppe]

i like it, it's like, "organized chaos"

[jolly sierra]

exactly as i was described by my classmates in university

[last jasper]

True. And u r better rogue than me.

But I can’t resist 😂

[jolly sierra]

HUH

[wintry dew]

dont focus on getting the 2nd dagger, main pieces are better so you can catalyst them for tier BUT tbf the season ends like next week xD

[harsh steppe]

yah just trying to figure out what to get before season starts, so maybe just a dagger and chest piece? i have total trash gear atm

[wintry dew]

Tbf just farm honor and dont think about it too much

[last jasper]

U are going to replace all ur gear week later with honor

Don’t bother

[harsh steppe]

is conq uncapped atm?

[wintry dew]

around 12k so when season starts you get yourself with full gear honor and queu shuffle

[wintry dew]

yes

[harsh steppe]

ok ty i'll just try to hone in on my rotation & not worry about it

[last jasper]

Plus as royal said. Oh is just a stat stick.

[vocal surge]

Looks like we're gonna have to go with Option 1

2267 damage is pretty low if our health bars are already reaching +900k

Even if we're snared for 10 seconds

thats 22670 damage, pretty mid

[jolly sierra]

that is the equivalent to the embellishment

from early s2

awful af

[vocal surge]

Its a worse version of the embellishment

actually

[jolly sierra]

damn im surprised they decided to worse something was already bad

[vocal surge]

15% Damage Reduction goes a long way because of how much uptime you'll get with it

Certain comps become alot more bearable with that 15% damage reduction

Imagine getting CC chained by a lock w. that 15% DR

w. 20% from Feint

20% from Evasion

• ~41% - 52% Vers (20.5% - 26% DR)

[halcyon timber]

5% pistol talent and 5% fazed too

5% deadened nerves as well (melee)

[vocal surge]

Is it increased in PvP?

I thought it was 2%

[jolly sierra]

prefeint w that would be funny af

[halcyon timber]

DN? Yeh was when they reworked it to exchange for thieves going to outlaw

I mean feral will retain 80% armor when they shift from bear and other goodies /shrug

[jolly sierra]

if u guys were assa u wouldnt care about armor

lol

[halcyon timber]

Im a one way street primo

[jolly sierra]

same

[halcyon timber]

Regardless of what happens

[vocal surge]

w. 15% DR from that gem

we take ~40.6% damage

physical

[halcyon timber]

15% gem prob isn’t going to get an ICD and it will prob be their way of discouraging “micro cc”

[vocal surge]

if we got Evasion + Feint + Pistol talent + Deadened Nerves

no Vers accounted for yet

[halcyon timber]

Feint will likely get nerfed or versatility defensive heavily DRd further to accommodate

[vocal surge]

~31.5% Damage taken w. 45% vers

[jolly sierra]

meh i would micro cc anyways

15% can help sure

but u can still do good dmg in a burst w that

[vocal surge]

Yee

It counters RMP and classes that like to CC its primary kill target

[jolly sierra]

like a rupture tick

[halcyon timber]

Agreed but it can be an experiment they didn’t announce /shrug

Intentionally

[jolly sierra]

it would reduce 30k dmg to 25.5k dmg

the tick

in just the gem

[vocal surge]

That's still pretty big

it adds up

[jolly sierra]

yep

[halcyon timber]

Kinda a big deal not including other stuff and healing going on

[jolly sierra]

i would take the gem as a complement

rather than something to depend

complement for our defensives

[vocal surge]

Yea

I think in general

everyone is gonna pick that gem

[halcyon timber]

Hero talents are also going to be tuned down naturally as well so /shrug

Agreed, its solid

[vocal surge]

The casters will play between 2 gems

depending if it synergizes or compliments their build

[jolly sierra]

we dont know the other rog hero talents yet

the ones related to assa

[halcyon timber]

Warlock gained more dark pact in one of those trees too yeah?

Shaman hydro bubble is interesting too.

[vocal surge]

It'd be interesting to see if Assa and Outlaw had their shared hero talent be all about amplifying their abilities

[jolly sierra]

we can check that w ret tho

[halcyon timber]

Fatebound should be pretty dang cool honestly

[jolly sierra]

they already have 2 hero talents revealed

[vocal surge]

Yea

[halcyon timber]

Its just us, priest, shaman and dh left i think

Bfa flame being back for paladins is nuts

300% SP on hit

[vocal surge]

skirms or rated?

[halcyon timber]

Wasn’t there a guy who did that this season who really made it work?

Mass bombardment from evoker or whatever its called will be crazy too

The gem might just need there to even out a lot of stuff like that too ig

We dunno enchants yet for weapons

[jolly sierra]

if is some main stat related then that is the one to go for

as always

[halcyon timber]

Yep

Shall see

[jolly sierra]

tf are u doing in reddit @harsh steppe? lol

[halcyon timber]

Reddit is like going to chuck e cheese expecting a good pizza

[safe cloak]

can someone help me with this math problem?

thought I was supposed to gain 51 elo, not 27. This is my very first season, so I dont know if the calculations are different. might not get it

[umbral crest]

You gained 27 MMR and 51 rating, I think

MMR/MMV

[safe cloak]

it says rating

[umbral crest]

Yes, but 1560 is your starting MMV

matchmaking value

[safe cloak]

so its doesnt show your rating gains anymore? just your mmr? I thought that was usually hidden ( in most games)

[umbral crest]

Red is rating

Green is MMR/MMV

It's never been hidden in WoW afaik

It's separate like in most games

but MMR/MMV is visible in WoW unlike games like league

[safe cloak]

hmm ok. Isee

so rn my rating is the same as my MMV?

[umbral crest]

Seems so

[safe cloak]

hmm ok. been so long since I played so cant remember what I was at, might have been something like that. Dunno

[umbral crest]

Different each season anyways 🤷‍♂️

[harsh steppe]

cross verifying LOL

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-me-you-caught-me-you-got-me-there-busted-seth-meyers-gif-14147996

[wintry dew]

Dont trust people on reddit tho

I mean the same can be said about discord

[harsh steppe]

yeah fr i asked about the rotation & got a wacky response or two

[wintry dew]

I do spend my fair share of time on reddit, and boy sometimes people's answers scare me

[harsh steppe]

well usually i always just ask you guys first but sometimes if I'm realllllllly wanting to triple check i'll ask reddit

[safe cloak]

kinda stopped this season and went back a little now. When I was learning the game I got down to 900 elo, climbed back up to about 1530 ig. Think I just got tired of 90% waiting and 10% playing.

[umbral crest]

Yeah, the queue times in shuffle aren't great

[safe cloak]

Amen brother

[umbral crest]

I get something like 40-50% actually playing (counting all time spent in the arena), so I guess 2s or 3s would be better

My friend I do 2s with isn't on every day I am though, and our 2s comps make it harder to climb than shuffle 😂

[safe cloak]

yeah. 2s are instant pop. Dont know about 3s. might get my classic friend to play some pvp with me. just made him get Warwithin, he is a warrior though. Not best comp in pvp. rouge war

[gleaming pawn]

not best? that's down right awful

[safe cloak]

haha

im a glass half full typa guy

[jolly sierra]

dude is normal warrs counters locks?

i know then can fuck off the pact

but

OOF

[gleaming pawn]

warriors beat up anything in cloth

[jolly sierra]

god dammit

[safe cloak]

arent mages cloth?

[gleaming pawn]

yes, and if you let a warrior get on top of you, you're in for a hurtin

[jolly sierra]

tbh the hardest matchups w my lock are warrs

[safe cloak]

with a bajillion blinks I hope that doesnt happen

[jolly sierra]

i teleport the fucker is already there

tried to slow

bladestorm

pact

instabroken

try to CC, berserker rage

i do it later anyways

[safe cloak]

pretty decent mobility

[jolly sierra]

to cast real fears

even rogs are easy to play against

[harsh steppe]

how often do you guys use a) shuriken storm & b) shuriken toss?

[jolly sierra]

0 i play assa

[umbral crest]

I'd say warriors are annoying for sure, not as bad as DKs I guess

Gotta play around the pillar a lot I guess

[safe cloak]

ill use shuriken storm, whenever I see a rouge vanish, or anyone vanish. If Im looking for someone who is stealthed basically

[jolly sierra]

i see

[safe cloak]

dont know about shuriken toss tbh 40 energy for 1 cp and very low dmg. I dont use it at all. Might be missing out, dont know. Just doesnt sound good

[umbral crest]

Sometimes for rogues/others with stealth, sometimes because 1 storm=full CP if there are pets

but that's just me

[umbral crest]

1 per target hit

[safe cloak]

toss?

[umbral crest]

Damage is low though so I won't use it if I'm bursting either

[umbral crest]

Shuriken storm gives 1 CP per target

Oh

Right

Didn't see that

[safe cloak]

all good 🙂

shuriken storm is very nice

[umbral crest]

I'll just use toss if I can't do anything else and I'm capped on energy, which is more often than I'd like against roots..

[halcyon timber]

Shuriken toss to keep people in combat or as a generator sometimes when rooted. Storm when in a rat pack or trying to deceive some mfs on who you’re actually going to slam(spreading wound / crippling) and building cheaper cost cb pts

Can also use distract to stop healers drinking their mana milk

[safe cloak]

need fast kidney. Just do shuriken for noice cp

[umbral crest]

Also nice if I'm trying to save PV stacks for whatever reason

That's rare though, I usually just ignore them..

[halcyon timber]

Pv is sick , nice to have a customizable fat hit

[umbral crest]

Yeah, I'm usually too distracted to keep track

but it is nice getting a fat GB or ER

[halcyon timber]

I make my own weak aura art so it is easy to track

[umbral crest]

I do too, but I still don't lmao

[safe cloak]

XD

[halcyon timber]

Haha rigut on

Yeah prefer to make that instead of goofy giant bar of buffs

[safe cloak]

thats wow. Just get a bajillion weakauras/addons, and dont look at em. I try to keep my screen clean and minimal. Only a few addons

[halcyon timber]

Just did an update to it as well but idnt use wa for anything else

Yeh just wa art, tmw for drs and elv for custom bars . Idc about anything else

[umbral crest]

I just have a few basic WAs like this for SnD, SD, SB, PV and then the finalities

middle thing is subterfuge, ignore the cow

[safe cloak]

so the cow is not a part of the WA?🧐

[umbral crest]

No, he's part of the Strongaura

[harsh steppe]

tyty

for the subs in here, what is your E and Q keys bound to?
yes i know it's pref obv but jw

[umbral crest]

I do backstab and shadowstrike to Q and E respectively

[safe cloak]

q is secret tech for me, and e has always been a mobility button for me. So I got shadowstep on E

[harsh steppe]

where do y’all bind shuriken toss & storm?

[umbral crest]

mousebutton 2 for toss and shift mousebutton 3 for storm

[safe cloak]

Shift-mousebutton 5 for shuriken storm, and ctrl-mousebutton 4 for shuriken toss

[harsh steppe]

tysm

[umbral crest]

Honestly, with keybinds just create a system that makes sense to you, I've usually got defensives on T and shift T for instance

[safe cloak]

just find what makes you comfortable.

[umbral crest]

across classes

[safe cloak]

remember that there are pros in cs that move using left click, and all sorts of buttons, while having an inverted mouse. So there are no wrong keybinds (unless you cant reach them with your fingers ofc)

[umbral crest]

supposedly

A league pro crossed his arms playing because he was left handed until a teammate pointed out how he could just put the mouse on the left side of the keyboard

[safe cloak]

hahah

[surreal barn]

So what server time does season end tomorrow

[halcyon timber]

T and shift T

[halcyon timber]

Exactly this

[halcyon timber]

I dig it man. Im in the middle of painting more art to be added. In the middle of exams and stuff atm so it will be a long project to do as i have time.

[umbral crest]

Kinda want to see it later then, mine's very practicality minded, or ugly, depending on what you want to call it

[halcyon timber]

Its really in early stages as i dont have a lot of time to paint atm but for verbal visual acuity “thieves kit” is what im shooting for.

I hand painted my favorite daggers (i like simple stuff) and use them for symbols and blades and they use a simple animation to show when ready and when on cd etc. dance is in the center with a wip icon to show duration, phase in and out / desaturate when no charges etc. goremaws (fave cool ability has its own) and secret with its own stuff but eventually ill be painting hand drawn icons for those too with custom parts to show diff information. Perforated as well etc and shadow techniques stacks etc. a lot of work but visual representation catches my eye a lot more than normal bars. (Kinda like how ffxiv does their class bars) but im making my own thing. Just hard to make time for it with grad school and such

[umbral crest]

Sounds like a fairly lengthy process, couldn't imagine doing it myself but I'd very much like to see it later on ^^

[halcyon timber]

I appreciate it man, not really. Mostly having time to paint as the triggers are all set up. I like the RPG type interfaces and played a lot of shit like ff7 as a kid

Just playing with what ive got until i can chip away at the individual paintings but tyvm for the kind words and stuff

[fringe juniper]

Heyo is the Warlord title still achievable?

[jolly sierra]

yes

[umbral crest]

Maybe not this season though

[fringe juniper]

whats wrong with this season?

just too late lol

[umbral crest]

There's like two days left yeah

[fringe juniper]

oh wait

theres a difference in factions

alliance has fuckin Marshal

thats so lame compared to warlord

imo imo

[jolly sierra]

horde has champion too

[fringe juniper]

dang im about to faction swap

knight is the only maybe cool title

[umbral crest]

Any of the knight titles are kinda ok

Grand marshal if you also look like a banana

Others only if you RP or something I guess

[jolly sierra]

imo horde has better high ranked titles

and alliance better lower ones

[fringe juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/heretic-halo2-arbiter-grunts-gif-19621018

"Grunt"

just Lieutenant couldve been cool too

unless thats a title somewhere else already

must not be that easy then

geez

[umbral crest]

There are two of each, one being from RBGs and one from vanilla

you might be looking at the vanilla one

[fringe juniper]

https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=5356/high-warlord#

this is the one I was checking out

[jolly sierra]

ye indeed is the newest one

but remember

pvp players are in like the ~%5 of total playerbase

look at duelists

1k8 rivals

2k rivals

at like 3 days away from end season

[fringe juniper]

oh thats interesting

[umbral crest]

Huh, the regular rival one is less common than I expected to be honest

So I guess less than 10% play arena

[jolly sierra]

those are overall

the ones w xp names are the least

[umbral crest]

The first two I linked are overall, last one is current season

[jolly sierra]

i know

its surprising how this drops by a lot with season passing

and how this pve achiv is so rare

[umbral crest]

To be fair, I'm fairly certain SL and BfA got higher number partially because BfA had a lower entry requirement when PvErs had better gear by default

and SL required some PvErs to grind for rival etc anyways

[jolly sierra]

yep

but the highest was SL s2 i recall

[umbral crest]

I know mages in particular "had" to grind arenas in SL, that 1 min cd trinket was pretty big for their burst

[jolly sierra]

shadowlands s2

oof

[umbral crest]

and SL s2 was fairly inflated

[jolly sierra]

yep

by far the rarest i have are those ones

https://www.dataforazeroth.com/leaderboards/completion-score

if u wanna check the rarity u can go here

[umbral crest]

It's telling me I haven't got rival 1 for DF S3

That's 1800, right?

[jolly sierra]

yep

[umbral crest]

Strange, I got 1800 on 3 classes the past few weeks

in shuffle which I assume counts

[jolly sierra]

maybe need to sync

w armory

[umbral crest]

Maybe, yeah

Oh yeah, last sync was months ago

[jolly sierra]

there

[umbral crest]

Yeah, I did

apparently rival this season is rarer than cutting edge in CN

Still doesn't beat my 2k in 5s apparently

[jolly sierra]

yeah

playerbase

is the key there

[umbral crest]

Was 5s ever a big thing? I only ever played it once and we got 2k in one evening, I barely remember anything beyond standing behind a pillar mistweaving 😂

[jolly sierra]

seems like it did

[umbral crest]

We did face some r1 resto druid streamer once and they completely destroyed us

Can't remember which one it was

[jolly sierra]

but ppl was way more abundant before

i was a kid when 5s was a thing

XD

[umbral crest]

Same

I must have been 14 or so when I got that

[waxen meteor]

i never enjoyed 5s tbh

and it's easy carry mode when you have strong teammates

[surreal barn]

we did it boys

[waxen meteor]

Wow nice!!

[surreal barn]

thanks, it was a hard lobby

[waxen meteor]

i am surely not gonna play 4 chars s4

espcially added pve

i will do 2 in s4

[surreal barn]

i think... i will make an orc

for s4

[waxen meteor]

even 3 chars, the 3rd char will never step in dungeon AT ALL

[umbral crest]

Orc 🤢

[waxen meteor]

I actually don't want to play paladin s4

but i have got leggo

so...

[umbral crest]

I developed an intolerance towards the orcs following the orc meta

I would rather be GY-camped by a gnome than an orc

[jolly sierra]

finally

gratz dude

u are from the bottom playerbase rn

almost no one reached 2k4

[jolly sierra]

i fkn hate gnomes

[waxen meteor]

top 50 sin NA!

Gnomes looks aweful

Join me as necro

[jolly sierra]

hope next season

have more players

tbh this one for me was the hardest from late time

the amount of glads was disgusting

[waxen meteor]

s3 is much harder

but i also played a lot less

only played a lot this week

[jolly sierra]

u can complain less about having issues w ppl at ur same rating and similar xp

[waxen meteor]

it's not inferno level but much harder than i would have thought

[jolly sierra]

but meeting mglads in low rankings or r1 at 2k2+ is just a real problem

[jolly sierra]

ye

[waxen meteor]

Yeah hopefully more people join pvp at s4

since pve it was just a repeat

pvp is also a repeat but at least they didn't try

[surreal barn]

It’s insane how op meld is

To keep the momentum going

[umbral crest]

Considering transferring my rogue to alliance for a guild, I feel like I have to be a night elf 😛

[waxen meteor]

yeah it needs to be nerfed

[waxen meteor]

isn't guild already cross alliance/horde lol

my horde/alliance chars are at same guild

[umbral crest]

Kinda, but some open world stuff as well as casual BGs aren't, so it makes some sense to be the same faction anyways

hence considering, I'll stay horde for now

[jolly sierra]

disable all racials

kek

so ppl play by tastes

[umbral crest]

Disable me

I hope people pick me for my taste and not my racials 👀

[jolly sierra]

damn

[umbral crest]

We're basically golddiggers or something at this point, choosing based on racials

[jolly sierra]

yep

except me

XD

[umbral crest]

I mean, I chose based on looks so I guess it's more like getting a trophy wife?

It's getting late and I'm making less and less sense 🙂

[jolly sierra]

chosing on looks is like playing without caring about what other ppl thinks about u

instead choosing to get better or optimal

[umbral crest]

To be fair, I think most people do so, except PvPers and hardcore PvErs

[jolly sierra]

yeah in method for example for wod ppl chose BE just to get like 1% more overall dmg

xd

w BE crit racial

[umbral crest]

I remember when everyone rolled troll for the Jaina fight

etc

Also, belf was meta in m+ for the AoE silence until they changed it

[jolly sierra]

ye

[waxen meteor]

be skill was good

silence + no gcd

in tbc/wlk i was able to open mage with stun + silence

it was huge

[halcyon timber]

Always been and always will be blood elf.

[gleaming pawn]

BE skill isn’t all that bad now. I’ve killed many a ret that bop’d low thinking they were safe

[halcyon timber]

Yeh or wiping other buffs can be nice like shields.

[pliant mauve]

Anyone have even an inkling about the play for season 4? Is Assa going to be performing at the same level it is or should I start anticipating a switch to sub or OL?

[jolly sierra]

nobody knows

until season start

[jolly sierra]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/gear-enchants-with-the-war-within-weapon-enchants-cursed-enchants-mount-speed-338801

we got the enchants guys

sounds like we gonna use any of those ones

and the cursed ones (drop a stat and get a better one)

[harsh steppe]

need

[last jasper]

I don’t thing any of these are better than 2k main stat

[jolly sierra]

dunno if those stacks

[last jasper]

Pretty sure they do

[harsh steppe]

so i have a side mouse button razer for extra buttons, & i'm trying to figure out how to start assigning keybinds for them
it's 12 buttons, so with modifiers, that's about 48 extra keybinds
do i just go through and do focus 1-12 stuff (kick, shadowstep to, etc.), then do arena1 stuff, then arena 2, and then arena 3?

[last jasper]

Lmao. After using naga for 4 years. I just realize I can use side buttons with shift/alt 😂

[harsh steppe]

lmao

what do you use them for? focus stuff?

[last jasper]

I only use 8 of them. I think I might reconsider my keybinds now 😂

[pliant mauve]

To the people who have been around since MoP or even BFA, was the Rival bracket polluted with glad alts like it is now at the end of those xpacks? I’ve been going through my arena logs and literally every match is full of people with crazy xp. I’m capping out at 1924 and I’m not upset since this is the second season I’ve “really” played. And yeah I know it doesn’t matter either way.

[wintry dew]

There are less people playing

The ones at that brackets are mostly people with exp grinding alts

[pliant mauve]

Yeah. That makes sense. Thanks. Just got absolutely flamed by multi glad holy pally in SS (he went 0/6) that made me question how I even know how to tie my shoes.

[wintry dew]

Also, rival now starts at 1800

[pliant mauve]

Was that not the case before?

[wintry dew]

No

[pliant mauve]

I thought rival was always 1800