pvp

[wintry dew]

Aight imma go sleep night nerds

[cosmic thistle]

aight lil bro

[jolly sierra]

O O F

guys u are nuclear this night

i went to dinner and this shit turned into chaos

[cosmic thistle]

XD

[last jasper]

Target @mage.
/cast rapid fire
No more mage 😂

Ok, night, mate

[cosmic thistle]

is sub better then sin?

[jolly sierra]

gn dood

[jolly sierra]

Target @mage.
/cast disarm

[last jasper]

Yea, should’ve been sleeping like for 2hours already 😂

[jolly sierra]

OOF

go to sleep if u need to

XD

[last jasper]

Only if u face double mage lobby

[jolly sierra]

always

[last jasper]

U can’t disarm both bro

[last jasper]

Nah, I’m okay. Only wifey is not okay that I woke up in the middle of the day 😂

[jolly sierra]

once i went to job with 0 sleep hours

and almost bumped twice some cars here

[cosmic thistle]

mage what u workin with?

[last jasper]

Oof.

[jolly sierra]

hotel

a 5 star one

[cosmic thistle]

i see own it right?

[jolly sierra]

nuh uh

[cosmic thistle]

nah just kidding xd

wo what u doing there?

[last jasper]

What are u doing there? I mean responsibilities

[cosmic thistle]

^^

[jolly sierra]

they tosses me w clients and mostly outside

with cars, ppl and shit

[last jasper]

I see. How long you’ve been working there?

[jolly sierra]

like 2 years

[cosmic thistle]

become pro with em instead

me

[jolly sierra]

sure come to chile

[cosmic thistle]

ur from chile?

u said ur were british ffs

[fiery gorge]

mid or int

😎

[jolly sierra]

i went to chile

its different

[cosmic thistle]

nah that u ditn say that when i told i was half chile

[jolly sierra]

wtf

u can go anywhere

if u have family u know

also

wtf are u doing awake

GO TO SLEEP

[cosmic thistle]

idk iam sick anyways

[jolly sierra]

even more reasons

[cosmic thistle]

trying too get better rating but cant win

[jolly sierra]

ofc if u dont sleep

[cosmic thistle]

its not the sleep

just cant too seem to escape 1500 rating

[fiery gorge]

same lol

but maybe its not beneficial that I leave arenas when I see disc priest/rdruid either lol

and play with comps like arms war

in 2s

[cosmic thistle]

is wear 1500 is elo hell

swear

These dks and arms idk how too play at all

[fiery gorge]

against them ?

or with them

[cosmic thistle]

against

dk how too escapt them

they cant be stunned

theu always digetspin me

[fiery gorge]

icebound fortitude ?

[fiery gorge]

death grip ?

[cosmic thistle]

idk what that even is

[fiery gorge]

well thats partially the problem

need to know key def cds of all classes

setup omnibar

its very helpful

[fiery gorge]

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=48792/icebound-fortitude

[last jasper]

Sub arms is not a comp. It’s just 2 guys playing 2s for meme

[fiery gorge]

yup thats what we do

not for meme but because my friend only plays war

and I dont have healer

[cosmic thistle]

i will show a typical game of arms warrior

[last jasper]

Well, you won’t get anything except memes playing like this

[cosmic thistle]

keep in mind the healer only won 1 round

i ended up with 4 wins

but still

think i did well for that healer just the trap was really bad of me

[fiery gorge]

I dont need anything

I already have the power of friendship

[last jasper]

Lmao. What I just saw

[arctic scarab]

Just started playing again after a year away. I heard rogues can no longer blind into sap. Can we still solo cap bases w/o that?

[cosmic thistle]

from me:(

[fiery gorge]

idk I tried a lot of diff ways but what worked for me is kill the bozo camping at flag and then take flag

so no solo cap without that

[arctic scarab]

👍

I hate Blizz

[fiery gorge]

it was good change

it was broken

lol

bfa and doggylands was unbalance soup

Daddy Microsoft saved blizzard

[last jasper]

Idk what was “typical” about war.

[arctic scarab]

Wasnt a good change to rogues

[last jasper]

Idk shit about bgs. You can cheap>blind>sap

[arctic scarab]

@last jasper ty brotha

[fiery gorge]

yeah but will it not interrupt flag ?

[last jasper]

As I said. Idk shit about bgs. 🙂

[fiery gorge]

only arena ?

[last jasper]

Yep

[fiery gorge]

what is best comp for rogue

except frost mage

[cosmic thistle]

is forst mage and sin good in 2v2?

[fiery gorge]

decent but sub better

rather sin disc priest I would say

[last jasper]

I haven’t played 2s since bfa. Anything that can extend your cc. Disc, boomy

[fiery gorge]

and 3v3 ?

[last jasper]

Whatever u met in solo shuffle 🙂

[cosmic thistle]

egoist should i play 1 more ss or sleep its currently 4am

[last jasper]

Same, as in 2s. Anything that won’t dr ur cc

[fiery gorge]

I would sleep

tomorrow another day to conquer everything

[cosmic thistle]

iam sick aswell lol

[fiery gorge]

get some rest

[cosmic thistle]

aight cya gn

[fiery gorge]

Hope you get well soon

sleep well

[fiery gorge]

Do you have macro keys for every cc ability individually for target arena enemy 1,2 and 3 ?

or do you target switch with tab/target 1-2-3 macro keys and then use ability and reswitch target same way ?

[last jasper]

Tab switcher or click on sarena.
With focus blind and step

Step macro makes me step to my focus and change my focus to my target. So I can kick,gouge, stun using my normal keybinds

[inner tartan]

what is that addon showing the enemy and friend cds

by there nameplates

[cosmic thistle]

Nameplatescooldown

Something like that

[inner tartan]

kk ty

[fiery gorge]

shadowstep macro?

can you send it pls

would take a look

[inner tartan]

what a good sin talent built for pvp

[fiery gorge]

BMQAcWb37Z8KXj8LlE1rTPXfsplEhIJEAAAAAASjIlkAAAAAAAlSSChgkkSEEJSSSSSSo1iECA

for 3v

[inner tartan]

u got a aoe one for pvp

bgs

[grave basin]

/cast [target=focus] Shadowstep

Replace the focus with arena123 or party123

Or even names of people if you queue with consistent teammates

[brazen drift]

Can really see the improvement man.

[lime hedge]

New sub rogue and it's wild. 6 keybinds just for sap

[brazen drift]

You've been super well with the info given in here, keep it up.

[lime hedge]

Can anyone here help me with some relevant openers for current meta build?

[sick wasp]

u can create mod macros and compress those to just 2

[cosmic thistle]

Ty, tho i need too use my thistle with kb more

[last jasper]

#showtooltip Shadowstep
/cleartarget
/stopattack
/target [target=focus, exists]
/cast [target=focus, exists]Shadowstep
/focus [target=focus, exists]
/targetlasttarget [target=focus, noexists]

[cosmic thistle]

iam so fking good

[wary moss]

I left off at 1589 last night.

I'm at work now, get a good head start on me! I gotta farm xmog first too. Lol

[cosmic thistle]

damn u already have more rating:(

[wary moss]

I've had really good lobbies. My luck will catch up with me. Lol

[cosmic thistle]

ly lobbies are inting so hard

but i still make it 4 wins for me

[wary moss]

My last 3 games were all 5-1 😅

[cosmic thistle]

the video i sent could hav been 5 wins my first match me and the enemy died at the same time

and i hate this evoker cant be sap or stunned

[jolly sierra]

cocky

[cosmic thistle]

sry just got happy i even won with that rogue

[last jasper]

He is improving. From dred kidneys to dred blind 😂

[cosmic thistle]

whats a dred

[jolly sierra]

dismishing returned blinds

[cosmic thistle]

he was joking right? lol

[last jasper]

No, I’m not

[cosmic thistle]

this sub rogues u cant win against them they can always get away and have idk how fking many defenives

[wary moss]

If you're talking about in RSS, you almost never have sub as your go target

[jolly sierra]

unless u are a warr or a ret

then u can go freely on them cuz they just crushes the sub

[cosmic thistle]

iknow that but they just cant be fking stopped

[surreal barn]

They can

Dampening ramps up enough or you completely shred your opener and you find them having to blow offensive cds defensively

[lime hedge]

playing the meta build, how's this for an opener?

/castsequence reset=20 Cheap Shot, Shadow Dance, Shadow Blades, symbols of death, Sepsis, Secret Technique, shadowstrike, cheap shot, eviscerate, cheap shot, eviscerate, shadowstrike, eviscerate

[cosmic thistle]

@jolly sierra 1v1 me master

is sudden demise op?

feels like it does nothing

[jolly sierra]

im in breakfast

[cosmic thistle]

breakfast now lol

where in chile live?

[nova viper]

seeexo

i smoke e-cigarette

for breakfast

mango ice

[cosmic thistle]

no CIGGARET for the win

[wary moss]

Smoking is bad

[jolly sierra]

SEXOOOOOOOO

nice e-cigarette lol

[cosmic thistle]

RET PALA IS SO FKING OP

there is soemthing unkillable

[jolly sierra]

they were a meme pre rework

[cosmic thistle]

they dont fking die never played so good and no dont die absorb tank imune idfk

fucking monkeys are they

ugly monkeys

[wary moss]

A good ret beats a rogue every time. Don't stress about it to much

[jolly sierra]

had a guy in elite set ambushing me in an outdoor quest

was a sub rog against my ret

he ended fleeing away

[last jasper]

How?

[tribal badger]

huh

oh maybe if ur like outlaw or sin, especially sin

idk if sub loses to any class 1v1 tho

maybe if u have no cds and no pillars and u went to make tea

[wary moss]

Yeah sorry was in the context of assassin

[jolly sierra]

if is in arena then will be permatrained

the rog

cuz ret dmg is way too explosive

if ret is decent will cast his feint in the kill window

or precast the sanctuary

if he sees he is about to die he will just bubble

instead keep hitting

[cosmic thistle]

fuck every class

[whole ermine]

Guys, what's the general Sub Rogue burst Build? I'm so confused there's loads of them and mine seems so clunky and weird.

Does anyone have a link to one with Macros that are used as well? One that most Subs use?

[last jasper]

There is literally one build for sub. Check murlock.io.

The only macro all sub may use is dance,symbols, blades, badge macro

[compact river]

None of that is on the GCD?

[last jasper]

No

[cosmic thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/dkkd-gif-26307405

[jolly sierra]

yesterday i fought against a dk and the fucker seethed hard in outdoor cuz i bubbled regen

so he brought an hordie to translate for him and a rsham

i just said to the hordie it didnt worth it and i bubbled to home

[cosmic thistle]

mage would u siwtch too sub from sin?

[jolly sierra]

no

[cosmic thistle]

cap

[wintry dew]

No cap

[cosmic thistle]

@jolly sierra

[fiery gorge]

Why does my focus arena button not work

did the same for arena2 arena3

doesnt work in arenas when I press it nothin happens

[jolly sierra]

tf are u asking me

[cosmic thistle]

1v1

mig

[jolly sierra]

im logged w warrior

if u wanna face the warrior fine

[cosmic thistle]

sure

[fiery gorge]

me too

after

[gleaming pawn]

Try /focus @arena1

But also, you can just right click the person in gladius/sArena frames to quick set the focus target

[cosmic thistle]

aight add me

coldman#21757

[languid ravine]

playing a 4minute balanced skirmish is such a kek

[jolly sierra]

this game is teasing me w the warr

ill try tomorrow again tho

[fiery gorge]

peng ting brev

innit

[fiery gorge]

what about targeting

[cosmic thistle]

cant win against frost dk and a ret

they dotn die

[jolly sierra]

wanna me bringing the ret?

[fiery gorge]

frost dk is paper

ret is tanky af

[jolly sierra]

frost dk is lit disarm

at low health

and its done

[fiery gorge]

ye

[cosmic thistle]

cant jill him

[fiery gorge]

no death strike

[cosmic thistle]

cno

he wins every round

what should i do

[fiery gorge]

send vod

[jolly sierra]

disarm him

[cosmic thistle]

when?

[fiery gorge]

below 40%

[jolly sierra]

at 40% hp

assa is good af against dk

cuz they bypasses antimagic shield

[cosmic thistle]

so ddisarm 40hp smoke bomb kb dead?

[fiery gorge]

sub doesnt ?

[jolly sierra]

assa dmg is most in bleeds

sub is mostly mixed in shadow

[fiery gorge]

and anti magic wil ltake away the shadow dmg ?

only physical not

[jolly sierra]

yes, will, but will take some time

the pressure is bigger w assa

cuz they wont mitigate bleed dmg

[cosmic thistle]

xd just went fulll cc on their healer xd

we won

[jolly sierra]

did u never do that?

xd

[cosmic thistle]

no

lol

i barely do that

[wary moss]

Frost dk can do some serious burst damage right now

[fiery gorge]

take some time ?

[jolly sierra]

bruh

that is the reason u are hardstuck

[jolly sierra]

antimagic > sub stuns and does his damage, shield broken and keeps doing damage

antimagic> assa stuns and have all bleeds up, dk is still dropping hard

also with assa u can dot up and run

[cosmic thistle]

so how often should i do it

[jolly sierra]

dk requires contact to heal

[jolly sierra]

EVERY FUCKING TIME

HOW TF IS THAT A QUESTION

[cosmic thistle]

every round?

so ui should just trhow away all my stuns at the beggining of the game

why

i lose so much if they dont get a kill

[jolly sierra]

never said it should be a stun

ofc u will lose if u dont cc the healer

cuz will be permahealing ur target

just blind healer in ur goes

if he trinkets shadowstep jump and gouge

[cosmic thistle]

dude

[jolly sierra]

then cheap shot or kidney

[cosmic thistle]

i dint mean it like that

it was mid round

and they elft ehri healer so i just used vanish shadowmeld kindey c shot gouge blind and won

but its kinda tisky

[jolly sierra]

u can shadowmeld stealth cheap shot

then garrote

on healer

u have it easy af

[cosmic thistle]

yha i won the round for that

[jolly sierra]

gouge are for like 4s, blind for 5, kidney for 5

[cosmic thistle]

can show a round when i do it cause i maybe do it wrong

[jolly sierra]

if he has no trink

u can left the healer useless for 14s

[cosmic thistle]

should i do this every openor?

[jolly sierra]

no

when u are about to burst

[cosmic thistle]

ah i see

[jolly sierra]

now come im bringing my ret

[cosmic thistle]

gay

[jolly sierra]

try facing this

[cosmic thistle]

ur so fking monkey

[jolly sierra]

ur mum

[cosmic thistle]

ret people uwwww

[last jasper]

Unless u disarm him during his burst. Turning him into a creep

[last jasper]

U know that both dks can heal with coil and some frost runs death pact?)

[jolly sierra]

yeah but pact is an absorb

so u can still go

specially with MS

[last jasper]

It still gives him hp

[jolly sierra]

yeah but fucks his healer

[last jasper]

Being dead fucks his healer more 😂

[jolly sierra]

dk is also paper against physical melees

the problem is w casters and mixed dmg melees

[last jasper]

Yep. They are paper against any melee plus they suffer with high damp. Which is in ss

[jolly sierra]

yeah

[last jasper]

And frost can be literally shut down with one fuckin disarm

[jolly sierra]

yeah

he will fkn die

[last jasper]

And most dks at 1.8 I met as sub press icebound on the very first kidney. Making them more deadge later 😂

[jolly sierra]

yeah

happens a lot

XD

[cosmic thistle]

fking rets

[gleaming pawn]

Do better

[cosmic thistle]

got panda 1 time

only

almost 2

[cosmic thistle]

Can frost mage use ice block 2 times???

like is it charged 2?

cause i never seen that ebfore

[languid ravine]

they have a skill that resets cooldown of barrier, nova and ice block

its not charges

[fiery gorge]

when sub stuns and does damage only the physical damage goes through, no ?

Shadow gets mitigated by the shield

[wintry dew]

they have an ability to reset the iceblock afaik, but they cant use 2 iceblocks back to back if things didnt change, there's a 30sec downtime between both blocks

[jolly sierra]

yes

[cosmic thistle]

i understand

[gilded gulch]

ams doesnt mitigate bleeds no

and dks cant press anything silenced

[whole ermine]

Crit before Haste for Sub PvP right?

[wintry dew]

yes

[last jasper]

By anything you mean a few spells?

[fiery gorge]

Haste is completely useless

need 0%

some crit can be good

[jolly sierra]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/zandalari-troll-paladins-are-an-abomination/71914/34

god the salt here is big

love this arguing

[last jasper]

pve andyis having a debate

lmao

[jolly sierra]

not any kind of pve andies

this ones are male human ret paladins, the ones which flex in outdoor when u pvp

[last jasper]

oh, i just saw that its a necro thread

[gilded gulch]

you cant deathstrike can you

or strang

[jolly sierra]

funny af

[last jasper]

DS is a phys skill

why would u strang someone at this point? )

[gilded gulch]

i could have sworn you got screwed if silenced as a dk

[jolly sierra]

u cant stun if u got silenced

[last jasper]

asphyx is a phys skill too

[jolly sierra]

lemme tell u something

if u get silenced as warr

u cant intim shout

[last jasper]

my war doggy is only lvl 20. can't say anything yet

[jolly sierra]

yeah, the thing is

asphxy doesnt work w silence

[last jasper]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=108194/asphyxiate

[jolly sierra]

spell

[exotic comet]

Any outlaw rogues ever play a “tanky” build with max speed for flag carrying and just all around trying to get a 0 death BG?

[last jasper]

and still, phys school can't be sileneced?

[jolly sierra]

repeating

intimidating shout cant be used in silence

btw im dumping warr for now

god that was funny

[old dome]

Is Draconic missive of the Harmonious the one with vers/mast to use?

[jolly sierra]

yes

[old dome]

There is none with Mast/vers?

Thanks alot!

[gilded gulch]

its 50/50

[old dome]

Ah tnx!

[gilded gulch]

unlesd you get engy bracers or helm

[gilded gulch]

average warrior comms

prob average turbo or retwarr comms

[jolly sierra]

was funny af

[old dome]

Ahh wait. I need the Embolishment for leather helm.

[jolly sierra]

to RP as double warr in SS

[gilded gulch]

double warr sounds cool until you paired into double wizard on tolviron

[jolly sierra]

yeah

but when there are just a caster

its laughing af

[gilded gulch]

need is a strong exagg

cant you craft it on another slot

technically

[last jasper]

Ofc u don’t. How can you shout being silence 😂😂

[gleaming pawn]

But that’s not 1800 yet!

[jolly sierra]

yeah but still use my lungs and no magic to do that lol

[jolly sierra]

dunno why warr felt so crappy this season

in s2 was easy af to climb

[gilded gulch]

idk blizz tips say players cant dodge from behind

[jolly sierra]

this is by far my worst alt rn

[gilded gulch]

but dhs clearly can

i do find it a bit goofy you only need 1600 for the season token

[jolly sierra]

cuz dhs are blizz spoiled edgy son

so they just do whatever they want

[jolly sierra]

yeah, i almost completed the season set w that

[last jasper]

Dh don’t have cheap shot and you do. Plus I saw that veil cloak makes us dodge from behind too

[last jasper]

Idk, I want so bad to try war. I just don’t want to level him 😂

[languid ravine]

did Blizz improve like cross realm phasing? coz every fucking worldpvp drop chest is 8hordes vs me and at most 2 other alliance

[jolly sierra]

u can lol

[last jasper]

Pretty sure I need level 70 to enter ss. And I don’t want to pay 40$ for that 😂

[gilded gulch]

yeah i havent played since you got fear sigil as dh now

[last jasper]

I couldn’t even stand to level my lock from 60 to 70. Stopped at 63 😂

[gilded gulch]

the bigbrain low mmr play vs meleecleaves as dh was go healer

and just cleave the dps for free

[jolly sierra]

no fkn idea about how to match this fkn set

ngl

but armor is heavy enough to fit the panda

hmmm this looks better

[languid ravine]

where is 1600 token pvp vendor in emeraldream?

[jolly sierra]

in the waterfalls

[frigid surge]

been keeping my head in the sand as sin for a while, but looking at sub for a bit. Any reason it looks like most top players aren't running goremaws? Just nerfed or is the comp at high rating more sustain?

[fiery gorge]

When conq gets uncapped next week, swap hellbloom out with glad gear ?

[jolly sierra]

hellbloom cloak is good af

to be replaced

the mastery amount is absurd

[wary spire]

I feel like i'm taking crazy pills.

I love the set.

But everyone else seem to hate it.

Looking cool Panda!

[lucid citrus]

wow literally all Season 3 tier sets for all specs for rogue is the most voted

[wintry dew]

Gameplay was greatly improved with the tier sets + we had the rework

[jolly sierra]

thank you

lol

[last jasper]

except pressing sepsis

[wintry dew]

Yeah except that

[jolly sierra]

how tf

aaaaaaa

gimme s1 bonus for assa

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[last jasper]

pve andy said NO

[jolly sierra]

bruh

[fiery gorge]

wtf is this "andy" xD

"classic andy" "pve andy" etc

[gritty bobcat]

is conduit bettter or blue silken?

for asas

feel like your opener is huge for asas silken prob better

[last jasper]

🤷‍♀️

[gritty bobcat]

it means your like a typical person right

like a pve andy is someone who always does pve and behaves like a pve person

[fiery gorge]

pve andys vs pvp joes

who wins

[last jasper]

There is no such thing like pvp joe

[fiery gorge]

I invented it

[gilded gulch]

honestly im surprised sin thread has the most pvp related posts

yet sub is considered the archetype pvp spec

and probs most complained about one

[languid ravine]

but maybe its not surprising because sin is the closest you'll get to just doing your pve rotation against players

[fiery gorge]

whats sin pve rotation ?

[jolly sierra]

pvp players always perform at least above average compared to pve players doing shit in pvp scenarios

[gilded gulch]

lol i remember playing sl outlaw mirrors

and i'd always do 2-3x the other rogue's dam

without flurry even

[jolly sierra]

in pve?

lol

[gilded gulch]

nah in game

it was a fotm spec late sl but i swear most people hit like a wet noodle

[jolly sierra]

yeah i recall

s3

[gilded gulch]

if it was unchained season sin 2s

running a degen deeper strat kidney build as sin

was peak comedy

[jolly sierra]

i recalled in s2

i just played till 1k8

literal just got it in a weekend

and stopped playing

xd

[wary moss]

@cosmic thistle are you still ahead of me?

[last jasper]

lol. my favorite is when blizz puts boss mechanic with 2 color types. 😄

death sentence for every single pug grp 😄

[jolly sierra]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

fuck

[jolly sierra]

my warr has 5 more CR

me win

[last jasper]

Mythic +++++ type of shit for typical pve Andy.

[jolly sierra]

pve andys are mostly relying a lot in addons compared to us

in pvp

[last jasper]

Most ppl are used to play with addons

Was flamed by my friends whole legion and bfa cuz I refused to install any kind of addon except details

[jolly sierra]

see

[gilded gulch]

i feel weakauras didnt catch on for pvp

until SL

when mes made visual gladiatorlosa

[last jasper]

They should ban wa. This shit is op

[wary moss]

i was using weakauras back in WotLK for pvp. it started with making an easy tracker for maelstrom weapon stacks. lol

[jolly sierra]

did WA existed in LK retail?

i recalled it for WoD

[wary moss]

i might be thinking of cata

i know its that old atleast

[gleaming pawn]

this hasn't been true in years

[compact river]

Honestly I wish they didn’t allow them and balanced the game around that. But at this point you need WA and a bunch of addons to do well.

[inner tartan]

zug zug

[livid sparrow]

Does anyone know if the Shadowlands PvP Transmog Vendor are already by mark of honor?

[inner tartan]

yes

[last jasper]

Disagree. For pve u only need a few brain cells to be good at scripted stuff. Idk about df, cuz dropped any type of pve this expac entirely.

[inner tartan]

define need

i have hit 1800 in pvp and 2500 in pve as outlaw rogue before with no addons

atm i am useing addons thou xd make life so much better

[last jasper]

With one exception. There was mechagnome boss in bfa s2. Literally unkillable for pugs cuz it needed coordinated voice or wa

[compact river]

I played BfA and the only hard part of mech was the stealth part, which ruined a lot of keys. I haven’t done PVE since nzoth, and I think there are too many mandatory addons for all content

[waxen meteor]

Seems we are getting s3 tier set for all specs in s4

[inner tartan]

any sin rogue bg player got a good aoe built they could share rq

gonna take a break from outlaw and learn sin

[hybrid rapids]

Which addons do you use when playing outlaw? I've been trying it out lately and i've been having fun, but I keep reading outlaws use addons for procs or something but I have no clue what it's all about

[last jasper]

There was a mechanic where u need to destroy small robot (or something) by pressing 1 of 3 buttons. And only ppl outside could tell u which one. It wasn’t hard, but impossible to accomplish w/o addon or voice

My last raid was in sl s3. And ppl were still wiping raid on anduin with 2 types of color mechanic.
It feels like every pve Andy is color blind

[inner tartan]

i use wa for stealth windows and wa to keep track of snd blade fury and rtb buff ask in the outlaw selection for the roll the bone wa and use that and then ask for rthe stealth one and use it

[compact river]

I just think that addons and WAs give a player an advantage.

[sick wasp]

knowledge gives the advantage,WAs is just a tool

[compact river]

Seriously when are subs getting nerfed

[cosmic thistle]

Ur gonna win iam so sick right now had 38grade fever or what its calles and my trhoat is dying rip

hard stuck 1500

but started too perma cc healer and works good just need better lobbys cause i have won3 games now only

[languid ravine]

I am glad Blizz stayed true to their design philosophy of making the damage "less spiky"

imagine getting oneshot at exactly 400k HP xd

[cosmic thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/ugh-annoyed-eye-roll-eyeroll-whatever-gif-12583888296439898899

uwu

[jolly sierra]

did it work to unlock RBG xmogs?

[cosmic thistle]

mage sometimes my gouge dose 1 sec or something like that on ehaler when i havent even done it before?+

[wanton breach]

not even a fullmoon

[cosmic thistle]

there is only trollers in 1500 fr

is their any quest addon that shows the ebst quests too do?

[willow valley]

[cosmic thistle]

whats the best way too farm conquest?

and aslo can i get all spark of dreams in 1 day?

[vocal surge]

[thick dagger]

Is that a 400k full moon good god

[languid ravine]

its a half moon

[thick dagger]

How is a half moon hitting that hard wtf ???

[willow valley]

just do the quests and play xd

the RBG are the best for conquest, each one gives u like 260 i think

but u have to play with a premade group so...

[cosmic thistle]

DAMN

DOING THIS NORMAL SHIT TAKES FOREVER

[wary moss]

Feel better my man

[cosmic thistle]

got the war within so got lvl 70 boost and took it on a rogue so grinding for that now

andwhy does shadenox have 4 alts?

[wary moss]

Aw man you shoulda got a new class

try dif things out

playing other classes will help you beat them too. get a better understanding of them'

[cosmic thistle]

was thinking about sub but idk really want too get good at assasin first and its the only class i like

[wary moss]

have you tryed others? lol

[cosmic thistle]

nah sin is the only way

i iam very lazy

dotn ahvw time for that stuff

[pale storm]

What do you mean you don’t have time? Haven’t you played over 1k rounds of shuffle?

[cosmic thistle]

y

when u get a new charachter dont u get like 3 verdant trophy for gear?

[wintry dew]

2

and they are not the same

[cosmic thistle]

how i get them?

@wintry dew

[wintry dew]

do a bg or an arena

[cosmic thistle]

have done that haven gotten any

iam stupid

havent taken the quest

[jolly sierra]

xd

[cosmic thistle]

KEKW

farmed conuqest for 3 hours now only got 700 conquest

people in bgs are retarted

[jolly sierra]

with that kind of vocabulary u will call the mods xd

[cosmic thistle]

will i call the mods?

nah iam good

[jolly sierra]

if u write the R word correctly u will

[cosmic thistle]

they cant hide the truth

[thick dagger]

They can hide you from this channel watch what you say .

[gritty bobcat]

why do some outlaw rogues not play with gouge

isnt gouge insane

for stopping like casts?

or runnign away

or cc healer

[restive hemlock]

Every rogue should have gouge

[jolly sierra]

i have 2

[cosmic thistle]

i cant win any conqust pople are some shi fr

dotn remember bgs was this hard

[cosmic thistle]

why do some of the top sins play 4 set?

[tardy magnet]

are all specs viable in pvp or is one above the others?

[storm harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc9dYtmC4zI&ab_channel=Beanz

[inner tartan]

wdym rbg xmogs what am i missing

[cosmic thistle]

@jolly sierra uknow how i can make giold have 175 and need to buy items and enchant for pvp

[jolly sierra]

rated bgs unlocks xmogs since 1k8 rating but dunno if it does work with blitz

[jolly sierra]

already told u do memory

[cosmic thistle]

nah ma buddy gave me 50k now he is papi

[jolly sierra]

u owe me 100k for end season shut up

[cosmic thistle]

stfu u owe me

[jolly sierra]

start gatheting that gold

already told u what to do some days ago

now recall what i said exactly

[cosmic thistle]

me?

u said alchemy stuff but i aitn have time for that yet

[jolly sierra]

see

u have a lot of time if u fkn played 2k matches in this season

those are just excuses

[cosmic thistle]

no cause if i start grinding for money i wotn ahve time for 2200

iguess i can do it in the mean time while iam searching for matches

[jolly sierra]

u have like 4 months

stop giving excuses

[cosmic thistle]

how is that excuse i dont need money cause i will give it too me anyways:)

tho do i have catalyst points on my new char do u know that?

[jolly sierra]

u need if u are whining for gold when u have 150

and asking me how to get gold lol

[cosmic thistle]

i got 50k in 10min bot

[jolly sierra]

then why u are asking me

also how tf u have a bot

and why

[cosmic thistle]

wdym i have bot lol

i ment ur a bot

🤖

[jolly sierra]

are u high again

[cosmic thistle]

yes and after that my papi said i will give u 50k cause iam so cool

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[cosmic thistle]

ur jealous

i love my papis

@jolly sierra tho uknow if i have those catalyst points on my new alt?

[jolly sierra]

do u have a sugar daddy lol

[cosmic thistle]

haha

yes

[jolly sierra]

i dont wanna know what do u do w him outside but good for u lol

[cosmic thistle]

ahaha no its my friend he has alot of gold and dosent rally play that much so i just send some pics and he gives

[jolly sierra]

are u sending feet pics

wtf

[cosmic thistle]

hahaah

[jolly sierra]

this become shady af

[cosmic thistle]

iam jokinglol

[jolly sierra]

nah

[cosmic thistle]

@jolly sierra can u asnwer me now ffs do i have catalyst points on my new alt so i can get 2 set?

[jolly sierra]

no, u are a meanie

[cosmic thistle]

harrased by a 16year old man na

[jolly sierra]

big meanie

[cosmic thistle]

just anwer

answer

[last jasper]

this is fckin meme. The guy just cant fly to an npc to check how many catalyst point he have 😄

@jolly sierra bruh

[cosmic thistle]

its cause i have no pink items so cant se my points

should i start pvping with the gear i ahve now or wait utnil iam full gear?

[gleaming pawn]

he also sits and complains every day about queue times, but then says he has no time to do anything else

1000% a meme

[jolly sierra]

ye lol

u tell him anything and wont hear, so

[idle root]

is there a quick way to get flightstones? i need like 500 to craft my 2 pvp items and my alt got.. 10?

lol

[cosmic thistle]

i often just find treasure

get like 10 each

[languid ravine]

what is symbols of death spell id? I ve tried all wowhead IDs and none of them work

[inner tartan]

that was with rbgs not blitz how do i tell i unlocked the mogs is it the elite pvp set if so i already got that one

[inner tartan]

u have 4

[cosmic thistle]

ty

is it worth buying the glad chest peice?

[wintry dew]

It's worth buying the whole set

And bro please

Wow is easy man

Nothing compared to Aion

Stop making dumb questions

You don't need to be 5head to know the answers to your questions

[cosmic thistle]

idk how its dumb question when i couldnt see my catalyst points cause i dont have purple items so i dont buy honor gear instead

[jolly sierra]

go to area 52 in netherstorm

if somebody tells u dumb questions doesnt exist

TELL HIM IS FUCKING WRONG

[wintry dew]

#merek moments

[cosmic thistle]

idk how its dumb when i cant see ?

[wintry dew]

Do you ever search info for yourself?

Like www.google.com

[cosmic thistle]

ditn get any aswers so asked here

[wintry dew]

Google has answers

[cosmic thistle]

yha but i still ditn know if it applyed on a new char

tought i started with 0 and then 2 weeks but somone told me so ty

[wintry dew]

That would be an extreme disadvantage to new characters

[languid ravine]

I m 2k+ in blitz and no Elite set 😦

[inner tartan]

will do ty

[languid ravine]

wait I dont know my actual rating just the last two games were 2k mmr

[inner tartan]

blitz dont count this season i think

atlest not in us

[last jasper]

Yea, blitz is just a brawl. Like solo in sl.

[jolly sierra]

legionary set its by 1k8+ tho

[inner tartan]

solo is sl were u could do 2 tanks 4 dps was awsome

game were fast ques were fast

[gleaming pawn]

did you ever get your answer? the spell CD and buff are both 212283

[coarse stone]

Are there some outlaw bugs rn? Had multiple 5+ cp killing sprees going on cd without doing anything.

Also bte is bugged and not usable when using meld > stealth sometimes.

[fiery gorge]

arena wins

gives 15/win

mythic doungeons

quests

some quests give 70

[cosmic thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-gif-27475997

[west bolt]

where can i find outlaw ilds

buils

[inner tartan]

zug zug

we go stupid

[inner tartan]

yes i can ty for telling me about it

[jolly sierra]

u welcome

[hybrid rapids]

Is this set you are speaking of a different set from the one you get from arenas?

[hybrid rapids]

I see

Ty

I think I'll just keep doing arenas lol

[jolly sierra]

u welcome

[gilded gulch]

tbh the alliance set has some usable pieces

horde one just sucks

[jolly sierra]

horde one fits w faction

fucking rude

love it

[gilded gulch]

mud hut dwellers

[jolly sierra]

me horde me rude puny ally fears me

[gilded gulch]

says while playing the neutral race

[untold lotus]

6-0 a lobby at 1900s as sin, proud of myself and bragging

[steel scarab]

Brag away brother

I went 6-0 at 1500 and felt good, 1900 is legit

[exotic comet]

Anyone play outlaw and run a “tanky” build? I want to try leech, stamina, and as much healing as I can get.

[jolly sierra]

why tf i got a ping here

[wintry dew]

bro was asking you how to make gold

[jolly sierra]

again

rlly

tell him to send feet pics to his sugar daddy again

[last jasper]

Bro, how to make gold?

[hidden dome]

After Aug season 2 and Devi Season 3 I believe that Drachyr should just be removed from Arena

Very fun to play against 1 button spamming machine that is impossible to beat as meele

[spring bough]

hard stuck 2200-2300 and it is the most frustrating thing ever lol

[serene sable]

Yo, someone have actualy talent tree for sub/pvp ?

[spring bough]

try something like this. for the outlaw tree i keep swapping heavy hitter / gsw with cto and swift

[jolly sierra]

its better than be hardstuck at 1k6 at least

[hidden dome]

Serious question how do you guys beat Devi Evoker as Outlaw? I have a 0% winrate against them. They are rare, but always a matchup loss

[spring bough]

grap hook, shadow step, sprint and just stay on them and lock them up lol

blade rush

[hidden dome]

I do all that

and they still do 80k dps spamming 1 button

[spring bough]

avoid breaths

dont get hit by that long stun lol

[spring bough]

i cant get past 2313 and im back up to 2302 so here comes the slump lol

[jolly sierra]

O O F

at least we are not in end season yet so u will reach safely that rating

[spring bough]

this last round lasted 50 seconds. had the beavis and butthead of shamans in that lobby

124k BTE for the killing blow LOL

[hidden dome]

Breaths do like 15% of his overall damp. And stuns are hard to avoid when you are constantly slowed by 50%

Speaking of 2s here

[spring bough]

you with a healer or another dps? would still try to hook out of the dragons way if they get u slowed or step to teammate if out of the way or to dragon so u can get behind and avoid a breath

[hidden dome]

I was playing with holy Priest against Devi Ivo and Druid Heal

[serene sable]

which spec will be best for pvp and why

[hidden dome]

What is the rating you are aiming for?

If you aim for less than 2.4 then just play what feels best for you

[serene sable]

I aim to play with one character and one spec. I would like to have a big impact in the arenas

i think sub are good

but the sub has a lot of different builds

[hidden dome]

All 3 specs are really good this season

But you can't go wrong with Sub

[serene sable]

should I play with a cc or burst build?

[hidden dome]

Depends on the comp you are playing

in 2s or SS I would play burst

[serene sable]

i will prefer 2s

do you have one good burst build

[hidden dome]

Would need to log onto my rogue, I am currently on my mage

getting farmed by rank 1 players at 1.6 rating

[serene sable]

Could you tell me how to log in to Rogue?

[jolly sierra]

we dont log here

[spring bough]

yup...... wind and snow here.... second i get into a lobby at 2302 the power goes out as round two starts

somehow got back on at round 4 and won two rounds but i think thats it for me after that BS lmao

[sharp sierra]

outlaw pvp

has to be the most dog shit spec

ever

even enh is better

[jolly sierra]

huge declarations

[spring bough]

idk i do pretty well as outlaw lol

[exotic dove]

Assa kind of feels dog now went sub and got teh 100 rating I lost and then some

Maybe its just a bad day for assa too I dont know

[gritty bobcat]

if i change my name in wow for 10$ can i change it again

if i dont like it

[languid ravine]

Feels great to be back on Sub while it is good and STILL go 2-4 and 3-3 in lobbies you outskill/outbrain all the time because DH and Arms in every lobby stun DRing like their life depend on it

[wintry dew]

yes

[serene sable]

Is the sub played with 2x dagger or 1 dagger and 1 1h with mastery?

[wintry dew]

for the same price

[wintry dew]

https://murlok.io/rogue/subtlety/3v3

[willow valley]

what's the hellbloom cudgel?

[wintry dew]

mace from world pvp vendor, upgraded with trophy of strifes, (the weekly pvp quest to gather 100 sparks of life in a certain DF zone with WM on)

Sold by Malicia herself

[last jasper]

Don’t need to upgrade. It sells the upgraded one. Still need trophies tho.

[wintry dew]

Yeah you're right, i'm still stuck explaining the way it used to be

mbmb mates

[last jasper]

yea, since ppl ask this kind of questions, I thought it might need a little clarification

[serene sable]

Do you recommend any wa to track your CDs?

[hidden dome]

I swear drachyr Devi has to be some kind of new meta in 2s

I saw 0 a week ago

and now I played my like 12th matchup against them

Losing 100% of games

[cosmic thistle]

does omibar dont work for u guys aswell or is it just me cause it often says i get too many errors and i cant press anything and need too reload?

[last jasper]

Idk about outlaw. But devokers literally dies from a wind blow

[hidden dome]

in 3s maybe

or if they are bad at the game

[jolly sierra]

most of time is a bad day for assa

[cosmic thistle]

u play wound poison on rogue bsub right

[wintry dew]

Right

[cosmic thistle]

aight

anyone know a good sub rogue who gives good guides?

[wintry dew]

Nahj

[spring bough]

back to back lobbies dps or healer going afk after winning 1 round lmao

love these boosters/win traders lol

[last jasper]

in 2s, in 3s whatever. They have less range than ret and 0 survivability.

[languid ravine]

I ve played ONE game at 1900 assa this season and all of my teammates have been actively targeting someone else than me

[cosmic thistle]

seen a guy he said i should be running away more from fights not like stand there in the middle and just use fan of knives and just kindey whatever chases me but isnt kind bad for my teamted too be left alone?

[languid ravine]

yes its true since season 1

[hidden dome]

Unlike ret they have infinite mobility

[exotic dove]

yeah if they target you though it make it rough healers keep telling me that assa they hate healing they are so squishy this around 2100 in shuffle and 2s

If they dont go you though its you are happy as a clam

[languid ravine]

the damage is so through the roof, if I dont prefeint a 4 second stun I need to cloak afterwards

its insane

[exotic dove]

Yeah I play sub in 3s with my best friends who are a lock and a sham games are so much better

compared to assa

Assa just doesnt have the dam to counter act being that squishy

or to be a damp spec

If they buffed assa survivability a little bit Assa wouldnt feel so bad

Swapped to sub in 3s insta went to 2200 mmr if I started it as sub we would have also been 2200 cr instead of maybe 1800 cr trying assa. That being said I will probably give assa another shot eventually

[last jasper]

Unlike Ret they die in a stun.

[hidden dome]

Maybe if you play one of the classes with giga burst

They certainly don't die in stuns against Outlaw or Frost Mage

[last jasper]

Bro, if u play rogue mage and u can’t beat devo. The problem here is definitely not devo

[hidden dome]

I played rogue with heal and mage with heal. I didn't play rogue mage

obviously rogue mage should crush evo

[jolly sierra]

a pigeon fell from sky dead where we are

i had to take a shovel and put it in the bushes

[cosmic thistle]

r.i.p

[west bolt]

sub pvp build?

[cosmic thistle]

Anyone who can tell me why i lost this?

FUck i dint use my veil. but was there anything there i could have done better

[last jasper]

Triple dr kidney in a new meta 😂

[cosmic thistle]

is what why it wouoldnt apply ?

if i use 3cd it wont work?

[cosmic thistle]

funny thing i often win by this lol

[surreal barn]

I’m in the airport and have nothing to do

Okay @cosmic thistle

[last jasper]

Cuz instead of sit on 40% ret u weee tunneling monk for no reason for 4 sec only to remove all ur dots after with a blind

[surreal barn]

Save blind first off it’s a waste the way it’s used here

[sharp sierra]

god damn. im doing the DH intro quest chain. iam 6 hours in and still going

how long is this campaign lol

[cosmic thistle]

Damn ur smart will think about this my next games

[surreal barn]

Your bleeds need to be up on the paladin and hunter if you plan to sit that healer the way you did

[last jasper]

Not that bad to bait a trinket. Unless u sit afk near healer watchin ur blind to worn off

[surreal barn]

Nah there will be no bait here

[cosmic thistle]

I often win by this blind i do

But i can stop it

[last jasper]

Idk, as a sub I love sometimes to chess ppl “I don’t press bubble/netherwalk” with gouge blind sap

[surreal barn]

It’s fine as a sub

As an assa you need some pumping

[cosmic thistle]

Can send another clip this was really bad from me could habe son by just pressinf veil

[surreal barn]

The BM is allowed to do his whole opener

[last jasper]

Definitely u don’t sit near healer watching ur blind ticks.

[cosmic thistle]

I see

[surreal barn]

A good hunt would have thrown a flare

Either way hop on the hunt to delay his damage while his wrath is up

I smoke BMs they are a good target for us - but if you do go BM it’s nice to not blow your sprint at the start, so ask the warrior to let you sap

[last jasper]

Going somewhere?

[surreal barn]

Also, in that opener you blew meld! No bro 😎

[surreal barn]

Home from a wedding

The cc chain on the healer is going to be way easier at the start like you’re doing but imagine if you did it while your partner was bursting and you were a minute into battle

[willow valley]

which opening is the best with sub rogue?

[last jasper]

Going ham

[willow valley]

wat

ham?

[last jasper]

Hard as motherfucker

[willow valley]

like hamburger?

[willow valley]

oh

but with what i have to open

i usually do cheap

but i dont think is good

[last jasper]

Sap healer, cheap off, kidney main

If he pops cd u switch

[willow valley]

but to single target?

cheap, shadow strike and kidney is good?

[last jasper]

Ur opener is basically to force cds. Cuz 1 min later u r going to have ur 2nd go

[last jasper]

Blades, cheap, kidney. Ppl often have wa on blades and can react. Sometimes u want to sit a little and let them use some insta cc like coil or something and then pop blades

[last jasper]

No, u ss kidney>cheap or just cheap>cheap>cheap. Don’t roleplay merek

[cosmic thistle]

wdym not roleplay fku xd

[willow valley]

XD

k

so i should start with shadow strike till i stack the combo points to kidney and then if necesary do cheap?

[willow valley]

yeah

[cosmic thistle]

aa exakt

[willow valley]

thats what i usually do

i let the other guy use their habilities and when they used them, i go with blades, trinket, and i spam symbols

and then i just start doing damage

but i just wanted to know if what i was doing to open a duel was correct

cuz i noticed that cheap and kidney share DR

[last jasper]

Yes. They both stun. So

[willow valley]

yeah, but theres a lot of diference between a 3 sec kidney and a 6 sec kidney

and i just noticed that

also, how does the disarmd work?

[last jasper]

No u can do 1 ss with blades if u wanna kidney target. But don’t just spam ss to build cp for kidney

[last jasper]

It disarms ppl, surprise 😂

[willow valley]

but i dont want to use blades on open :c

[willow valley]

rlly?

[last jasper]

Why?

[willow valley]

i use blades when the target used their abilities or when they are weak

so i dont waste all the damage

well, when i know i can oneshot the target, i do it

but im not full equiped so

[last jasper]

What does that mean?

[willow valley]

uh

for example, when im against a paladin, i want to wait for him to use the invincible abiliti which i dont know the name

so i can use blades when hes not invincible anymore

im srry, my english is not the best

[last jasper]

Why would he use it if u don’t do dam?

[willow valley]

honestly

idk

[jolly sierra]

if he notices u are doing not dmg or burst he wont bother in use defensives

max the div prot in stun

he wont use bubble unless is about to die

[surreal barn]

I miss ret auto bubble from legion

I loved that shit on my ret

[jolly sierra]

i cheat a little so i regen inside bubble

[jolly sierra]

crazy af

still recall that

[willow valley]

k

[last jasper]

There is no need to hold ur cds. Ur blades can be 1.10min cd. Rets bubble is 2min

[jolly sierra]

bubble is 5m cd

[willow valley]

oh

[jolly sierra]

but has bop

so no changes

[willow valley]

bop?

[last jasper]

Really? I thought they tuned it somehow. Okay. 5 min

[last jasper]

Shit crown buff that makes him immune to physical damage

[willow valley]

oh

[last jasper]

Can be purged

[willow valley]

how

[jolly sierra]

blessing of protection, physical inmunity

[willow valley]

but not to magic damage right?

[jolly sierra]

with a sham, a hunter, a belf, a mage or a priest

[jolly sierra]

no

[last jasper]

Not by rogue. Unless u playing belf. Which i doubt

[willow valley]

k

[willow valley]

yeah ok, thats what i thought

and no, i only play rogue

and i only have a furry

hehe

[languid ravine]

deathmark off CD for 30 seconds, that first cloak was greedy af imo and I think need to multi dot more when you play with warri

[last jasper]

And there is no 1v1 arena. So ur teammate can have a purge

[languid ravine]

hmm maybe cloak was fine hard to tell

[willow valley]

yeah, but i play BG

and sometimes i 1v1

thats why i wanted to know

[last jasper]

In a 1v1 with all cds there is little someone can do to sub unless he let them too

[jolly sierra]

1v1 is just force cd run

force cd run

force cd run