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Thing is you still have to know how to kill someone, cause that warrior or DH will kill both of you if you don’t lol
but i mean, if u lose to every team that has a pet and win when they don't have one, that's still above a 50% winrate as long as u don't meet too many hunters
no, its more like a 100% lose rate vs teams with pets and still like 50% on other teams
hey guys
i created a BRILLIANT STRATEGY
it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO LOSE WITH IT
at least in my mind
i just need another rogue who will play with me
the strategy is very simple
we sit afk stealthed in the base of the 2v2 arena, enemy will not know what's going and be confused
eventually they will check but we can just sap then grappling hook to the other side of the map which only has a 30 sec cd
from there all we have to do is not get damaged until dampening hits like 60-70%
at which point their healer is useless so it's basically a 2v1
and we have vanish + cloak with pvp talent for full reset every 2 min
it's like playing hide and seek
until the dampening meter hits the point of no return
and they become toast
S tier copypasta
should ping Everyone with it, let the world know
im gonna spread it to other discords
i once pinged the koffing guy to tell him how amazed i am that they made a pokemon based on his name
but he never responded
oh well
maybe 2nd time's the charm?
did you know that, meowth was such a popular pokemon, that cats actually evolved to sound like them
wow that's amazing
what if u just always stay on the opposide side of the map where the gem is
and if they grab it
u just LOS em until it's over
they can't see u on LOS right?
but its literally 50 50
they can. the gem is an aoe thing
yeah but if i'm hiding behind a wall they shouldnt have vision of me
its literally how it works in real life
or they could grab both gems on both sidse of the map
yes
lol.
this might slightly hurt my strategy
amazing display
i feel like blizzard made this only to counter this insanely good strategy
no other reason
they would make 2 gems like that
I mean, yeah?
IIRC gems didnt even exist when arena was first introduced
and they realized some ppl were sitting in stealth for 43 minutes
yeah its like the guy who invented WWW
he was genius
but if he didnt invent it
prob some1 else would have
yeah u cant do that anymore
and sub vanish was like 45 sec cd
p sure it was 30 sec in season 3
cuz each reset reduces by 7-10.5 sec
if u roll for the one that gives higher cd reset
i watched doctor daggers
and he literally use vanish and 20 sec later its back off cd
he use hook 3 sec later its back up
its like his abilities have no cd
I wish something else countered us instead of an entire armor class lol
believe in the heart of the daggers
well I play double 1H like a real outlaw rogue
why should outlaw be bound to the rule of wielding a specific weapon type
they are outlaws, they should outlaw their law and just swing greatswords
and wear plate
cant beat em, join em
his hs quotes are so good
THE BROTHERHOOD SHALL PREVAIL
LAPDOGS, ALL OF YOU
u could just feel it in his voice
All of the "Edwin Vancleef" card dialogue, in 12 different languages.
The brotherhood shall prevail
Lapdogs, all of you
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nothing made opponents concede quite like dropping a 16/16 minion on turn 2
he even has his own hero with even more epic voice quotes
proceeds to play Ironbeak Owl
Bring back sunder armor
owlsen strikes again
outlaw monk
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this guy almost makes me wanna play classic
blonde hair shobek is amazing
who are the best sub streamers to watch for learning content?
Pikaboo
pikaboo is good for entertainment, horrible for educational stuff
90% of what you watch is just gonna be 1650 mmr 2s with him pressing flagellation one shot sequence
against people who are so horribly unaware that they trinket on gouge
(unless he streams his actual team 3s which is realllly rare)
Id suggest nahj but he can be depressed a lot of times
normally
like, 80% of the time
problem is people trying to learn sub for the first time by watching him will think what he's doing is actual meta
He’s latest vid is actually good. 1v2 with standard build in 2.1
He won, but he's gone
I still think blizzard is a corpse being puppeted, but, the killer is no longer wearing it as a fucking skinsuit, so it's an improvement
Could anyone link nahj's stream? or youtube channel? The only thing i can find is 7 months old on YT.
he is offline now. Gonna go live in 7-8 hours prob
18x R1 Rogue main. Played and been passionate about WoW most of my life, but I have played some league/starcraft/smash as well on the side.I generally stream afternoons of 1pm-7pm MST except for Thursdays.
Clearly a win for players since we care only about the game
No, he's just hanging it over his mantle now
I'm sure wow will have such a huge influx of high quality content now
I mean, hate if you want, but SoD has had me entertained
Retail is too bloated, we aren't suffering from a lack of content, we're suffering from irrelevant complexity
Not hating. Just convinced that this does nothing for me is all
I don't think it'll do much substantively for at least a year
But, God, can we prune back like, everything
I didn't like their pruning abilities, and I still wouldn't
Didn’t said wow is going to be great again. At least there is a chance for improvements.
I'd argue there's just as big a chance as before tbh
Pretty sure his departure was one the reason for metzen to return
Perjaps
Nah, I love gouge. Don’t take it away pls 😂
As mostly a warrior I'm intensely jealous of acro
And disarm too, because I'm petty.
Too late mate
I mean it was ranged, so really you were getting the better deal
Gouge is ranged too
And iirc not subject to melee hit shit
Ie couldn't be dodged or parried
I wish discord kept messages from way back when Realz said he regretted putting acro in the class tree.
I would frame it and put it above my fireplace
Kinda feel like everybody needs acro
Long arm of the law
Etc
Just make that base melee for damage dealers
Arms not having it feels weird
Yes
Rogue spoiled you
Arms needs to be culled
Ret does more damage from midrange than they do up in your grill
I know that isn't a statement of fact
But it really feels that way
The number of times I've broken off from a ret and still died
a decent ret would run around u doing that shit while u try to chase
the range gap does enough for that
the funny thing i recall bout them was in s1
pre rework
when were so despaired about deathmark
so basically was force bubble without effort
then deathmark
@jolly sierra may I dm? I have a very specific question from your vods
sure
im about to breakfast, so go ahead
Whatchu eatin
cereal and some bread
Is it normal for me to only hit 100k Evis crits at 482 ilvl secret tech hitting for about 80 as well and this is with badge and blood fury .?
ye lol
nono the cereal in a bowl and the bread as toast
but bread bread, not loafs
what talents should i play with i currently play smoke, veil, hemotoxin
what taöents should i change against certian classes?
do i do death from aboxe abaistnt rage?
Disarm warriors DH MM hunt and DK
smoke veil required. hemo, control is king, and dismantle are your variables.. dismantle against classes that can't do ish when dismantled, hemotoxin against squishy classes with good healers, control when no melee to dismantle, and weak healers.
would you recommend using duel as a brand new rogue who's basically never touched the class?
(sub)
or just try to focus on fundamentals and play talents like control is king until class feels good
or veil I guess
control not so hot for sub...
Sub always takes duel
Most overpowered skill in the game imo
Even just using it after your cc chain wins entire matches
I've been wondering if I'm doing something terribly wrong while playing pvp with my hunter who has been my main for ages (mainly in pve, just dipping into pvp for cosmetics etc) and it feels like while playing either MM or BM there's a significant lack of impact and it feels like I'm hitting like a wet noodle, my iLvl is decent and my gameplay at least mechanically is sound enough, but there's just something that feels lacking. I tend to play rogue quite a lot in pve as well so could that be the fix I've been looking for, my rogue is slightly less well geared than my hunter though so would it matter?
as for specs I'm most comfortable playing assassination since it at least to me feels most straight forward, though subtlety has quite a high burst damage which could be better pvp, outlaw just doesn't click with me so it's a tossup between those two, any tips/recommendations
4 set worth it for sub?
yes
kalvish and nahj
I just got my 4 set for my lock... it cranks damage so hard. Lmao
Way better than I expected
had a few 3/3 2/4 lobbies..
just went 6/0 and had a warrior ask me "what.. are you some punkass glad or something..."
i giggled
That’s a good person
When I 60 warrior chased me to say I am noob
PMed me 15 mins till I reported him
that is the mildest DM
Sometimes people are just so dumb
only went 6 and 0 because there were two not great players
one evoker w a glad mount called me a fucking trash because he was going 0-X
so nearly every round i had an obvious target
undergeared mage, and terrible bm hunter 🙂
Yesterday there was a affl lock killed me while I was afk outside of ICC raid entrance. I came back when I was like 10% hp but still died. Then I revived and flew away, he chases on mount lol, then I landed and he came, I killed him. Then I sit there, he revive again and tried me and got killed again, then I started to /lol /sigh, and flew away, then that mother fucker flew to mountain to throw dot on me, then I had to kill him again, so in the end I killed him 8 times in total….
Those people really have brain issue
some persons are sore losers
tbf.. i dont like losing
i used to punch lockers in high school when I lost wrestling matches
in my defense.. that was 25 years ago, and then after punching lockers, I went home and watched my tapes for hours, then went running for 5 miles
And I honestly understand the immediate try back for a couple of times
But 8 times and chase me on flying mount like need for speed?
Is it normal for me to only hit 100k Evis crits at 482 ilvl secret tech hitting for about 80 as well and this is with badge and blood fury .?
Hello guys! What spec is the current go to for pvp? Gonna do it soon with my rogue 🙂
do you have teammates you can play with and or are able to communicate well and set up cc chains and "go" opportunities? sub might be for you!. do you like the idea of spread pressure, have great game sense and awareness and are able to use cc appropriately for deathmark kingsbane opportunities? try assass. are you adhd, like to roleplay as captain jack sparrow, and have an average of 300 apm in every game you play? try outlaw
orrrr play a few bgs, spend a few minutes on the training dummies and decide which you like the feel of
locks are not allowed to live my man,u kill them even if they behave 👌
whoop
pushed to 1803 last week, dropped to 1450 this week, finally climbed back to 1823
okay.... my step/kick macro will not work and its driving me crazy
anyone else have this issue
I think it never worked, if you press only once at least for me
I had to quick double click
a bit low for evis, but sec tec is normal
castsequence macros require you to push the key for as many spells as are on the macro
spells that re just /cast blah /cast blah.. will try to cast all spells at once.. however comma
isn't step of gcd?
it is
you can not use two spells that are gcd at the same time
try /cast shadowstep /cast kick instezd of /castsequence?
i have 😦
icyveins guide has a list of macros
just remember if its castsequence it has to be pressed twice
it might cast it before u end up near the target with ur step
Using this macro will use Shadowstep Icon Shadowstep on your focus enemy. If you press this macro again, it will use Kick Icon Kick on your focus target. This makes it easier to interrupt an enemy while keeping your current target.
etc etc
should work the same without focus.
#showtooltip
/cast [target=focus] Shadowstep
/cast [target=focus] Kick
From Icy veins. it only steps and doesnt kick and if i press again it just steps again
dunno. its the one ive used,. guess blizz changed it to not work
I think it does kick if you press it quick enough
But I don’t like it I just do step focus then manual kick
It did! but its still jank
it gives me "not in range" so it faster than step
Then you are opposite you hit too soon
Regardless you need to press it twice anyway so just focus step is good
I mean when u press it once. it steps but kick goes faster than step cast animation
I’m too old for this. Barely handle 6 buttons on my mouse. So I made it focus step and taken change my target to focus. So I can use normal keybinds for kick etc
with gold
nah thats insane stupid wow
I wonder, can we use like razer synapsis macros. Or I could get a ban for this?
on other hand, ppl are clearly fake cast scripting and its okay
guys i got emeralrd mark of dream what should i buy with it?
was nothing i seen that i played with pve soulders XD
is sudden demise a good talent to take?
any guide of how to play the assa rogue | frost mague one 2c2?
whatever mog u want
Ok, I might would need mental care after holidays. 😂
every single time I'm 1 win from rival I get melee zugzug
I've been wanting to do some TC on that, because it's not assa's best single target setup and in my experience the only time sudden demise got the killing blow for me, that person was going to die regardless
Just go sub 
sub in pvp its better? im new at rogue
Sub atm is still a better and sub always fits rogue mage better than any other specs
Sub has more CD, better burst dmg, better movement, better survival/resets
Sin burst basically comes out like a few seconds after your setup and kidney, which leaves more room for opponents to react
Sub burst just come right off when you call it
for me it gets most of kills
in my 6-0 at 1k7 it gave me 6 final blows
I think 10% bleed might already worths it
It does pop and get some kills
On the other hand I think you are right if we are able to push target down to 10% they are dead anyway
But in some cases there could be some key CD still there like HP swap and BoP etc
sub - best for burst but relies on teammate to go with u and not fuck up ur DR
assass - best for dampening
outlaw - best for consistent dps
With mage at 2s you only need burst and resets basically
of those i think sin is the easiest to paly
If you zug in mage/rogue you gonna lose
So i need to learn sub, bc im playing with my friend who is a frost mague
Any good guide to rely on?
Well rogue mage if basically you two cc one, and send a go on the other, then try to kite and reset wait for DR and have another go till they die
Don’t do like 25 seconds fight till your next go
so short fights, what is DR?
Let’s say this, when your go is finished, you are low energy and you both no cd, and enemy is not stunned/cced. In most cases you won’t be able to land a kill even if their HP is fairly low. So in this next 15 seconds, you goal is not to fighting them face to face for another 15 seconds until you have another full stun, because in this 15 seconds you most likely going to get killed and hurt a lot and you have no heal
Dr is when you and your teammate apply same type of cc on same person, the next one duration will be halved
Then next one will be 1/4
Then immune
Until reset
it autotriggers at that point
without reaction
that is one of the things which makes its good alongside the 10% more bleed dmg
How is ferocious bite hitting for 200+ k
With vein and rotten
What's vein and what's rotten for a feral druid?
Or shit I thought you mean our bite 
Ok, deleting my rogue 😄
what is good opner for 2v2 as rgue sin
Merek go watch Shadenox's video
he does 2v2?
he explains how to play Sin rogue in any brack, Solo, 2v2 or 3v3
I mean we told you and you have watched shadenox's video.. yet you still ask for the same thing? lol
yeah watch his videos, he literally explains everything, what gear to have, different builds focusing on ST or aoe, and he also explains different openers
ait
Happy Holidays you filthy animals!
do u have the code for talent that's good to use in pvp (sorry for my poor english)
i use a custom one
u wont like it
dont follow fucking outdated guides
Your english is awesome! I know it can be difficult at times to write in a language that isn't your main language! ♥
if i can understand ur english then is good
btw a lot of ppl here is not english native (including myself) so imagine how we talk lol
I remember someone posted a sin pvp guide a while back
Does anyone still have the link
It’s not pined 
Any good guide of sub rogue? 😄
is it better to get the conq weap or the gear on assa
He just took r1 on sub. Just chillin
not even close
oh u mean solo shuffle
interesting nahj is 2nd 3rd and 4th
there's a guy who is 2163 rating with Tank DH
that's insane
all the tank specs top at like 1850 rating
actually protect pala can reach almost 2100
destruction warlock is so busted
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Get embellishments last
They're all garbage
There's not a world where youd want an embellish before your mainstat pieces
Unless that world had all of them unnerfed
Then we can talk
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Hope all my fellow backstabbers have a good new year. 
does spark get uncapped later in the season?
The Rotten or Dark Brew for sub ?
what bout infurious
what about it
isnt good enough
of course you craft the boots first because you get a free token
duh
also wtheck is this smorc meta I am coming back from 2 months break and there is bots pumping a hundred thousand dps
someone can explain what happened at 0:50?
he was 4% health, went into stealth and after few secs he was 75% ?
and why couldnt the shurikens get him out of stealth ? they have big aoe range and he was very close
also how I could have played it better lol
you can cheap shot against evasion and then hit them if you stand exactly behind them
that heal probably health potion or some world pvp item maybe
looking at murloc top subs still playing Cheat Death while having to take the therefore dead talent for +1 charge of feint
:^) nice rework
arms warrior pvp has me like https://youtu.be/jw44JdK3p9k?si=do3IV_g1DXaezpwd
This video has more views than the original on Paul Stanley's channel LOL
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He had a hidden healer
lifebloom circled
if they are stunned, they cannot dodge from behind ?
only from front ?
they cant dodge anything in stun
There is nothing wrong with feint. Most subs just copy paste pros. If u ask nahj or whazz they would tell that feint is great tool if u know how to use it. especially in lower ranks
, feint is good af for assa
I play feint too. Saved my ass quite a lot.
how is the choice that NO pro makes better in lower ranks while it has a higher skill ceiling too?
complete nonsense
Which one that pros still says feint is good or “feint is bad cuz pros choose cheat death”?
Yea yea I m just exaggerating
Cheats better in solos due to all the bs that occurs, feints still really good in 3s and 2s especially if you preempt gos
you right though I was reading more into it than what you wrote sorry x)
I think otherwise. Solos are less coordinated but with rapid dampening. So it less likely it would pop before it could be useful.
why is the blue bloody token gear worse than the green honour gear bliizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Generally, is it better to cheap shot right before using secret technique, and after one shadowstrike, eviscerate and backstab for danse macabre stacks ?
danse macabre stacked -> cheap shot -> secret technique, eviscerate, shadowstrike, eviscerate for uninterrupted dmg ?
what is it called when one keyboard button doesnt work when too many others are pressed simultaneously?
okay found it I guess its called ghosting'
When I’m just goofing around in wpvp I do blades, gouge, dance, kidney, flagellation, dps trinket+symbols+sepsis, shadowstrike, evis, shadowstrike, secret tech, goremaw, cheap, evis and so on
They’re usually dead after tech hits
Sorry actually goremaw before the secret tech instead of shadowstrike
anyone who want too play 2v2?
I know it’s wpvp but still. Why ss after sepsis if u already at full cp?
Just for danse stacks
Doesn’t really matter in wpvp
I guess u could rupture after sepsis, adding another stack, then ss evis, goremaw, secret tech. Idk if u have enough time in one dance
Playing for Danse stacks is stupid though
You do way more damage if you hit the Evisc button twice instead of 1x Evis + 1x Rupture
One full Evis is way more damage than +4% on the sectech
Danse is basically free bonus damage, don't play around it and just do your max damage rotation. The last few spells will hit even harder, and that's all
Ty
hey there, im freshly starting ol rogue for pvp and have a question. Should I use Vanish to activate crackshot or is vanish just a pure defensive cd?
hey, hows outlaw in shuffle these days?:) havent played in a while
I can’t speak for Outlaw, but using Vanish offensively is really common.
It all “depends” for all rogues. Risk vs reward situation you have to gauge for yourself.
- can the target seriously take a whooping right now?
- what diminishing returns are off atm. What is available atm? Can i chain things or create space for team mates?
- potential danger you can put yourself in if positioning isn’t hot atm.
Lots of decision making based on pressure/ cds you have / cds enemies trade / team cds etc.
can i keep malicia's hoard box from a previous week and open it right after tuesday reset for instant spark fragment?
Happy 123123 day, y’all
im free from hotel job
now ill wait at home till fireworks and sleep
fuck u guests
i was playing 2s with this disc, nothing serious and just casual
after like 4 games i realized they werent playing power word radiance
crazy stuff
how is sub rogue in pvp?
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damn, not even skillcapped talking about Outlaw rogue CDs to worry about
Torc gives you more Mastery and less Versatility, I think.
If you're on Tichondrius, hmu, I'll make you a rank 5 one for free.
Very well. I am tarted
Im not unfortunatly but thankyou very much!
np
@jolly sierra in 3h we can play if ur down but iam if iam too drunk we do tomroeowkrj
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U can recors me top iknow iam good asf
that should be interesting
I mean i play in 1700mmr and iam winning so
Also in ss i can manage too carry 0 win players
5 games won in ss
With 0 min mage gave him 2 eins
Fuck iam too drunk cya
ye funny af
You're drunk? You look 6 lol
Wdym dude i look 18 obv
Kiddinng
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Happy new year
Happy new year new rank too get
Sus
Are the elite transmogs acc wide for the specific class
Yes.
aight
tryna get the rogue set but cba wasting sparks on main just gonna boost an alt lmao
@jolly sierra play?
k
im recording u
im going w ret
we are playing rn
im sending everything
Waiting
1/5
2/5
3/5
totally transparent guys
even losses
4/5
disclaimer
i went ret w him to support, i refuse to heal
and could work
5/5
give ur conclusions, i was fully aware we could lose when they brought healers
am I dumb or does blue silken lining not stack
let them talk dood
orc or night elf for arena as assa/sub
murlok io has like majority as night elf but idk if its actually for meld or just looks
20% stun reduc and extra on use sounds pretty good to me idk
Meld for Sub
Free reset.
It’s 10%
It nerfed by 50% in pvp cuz of whole cc nerf in 10.1.5
It would be too op to leave orcs with another 20% on top of all cc nerf before
I watched few for fun. It’s ny night.
Happy new year everybody
Sounds good, although I dont play with goremaw neither flagellation idk if they are needed
They don’t. It’s a meme build
Need more cc on that off target from your end @cosmic thistle, also - use smoke bomb more
Most of your games you could have ripped a huge bomb opener and @jolly sierra would have just killed them in it
cus my friends play ret and rdruid
like 2kish
I would say its playable but not the best
4/10 maybe
if you have good communication with each other
Drunk af but happy new year all
What should my prio be when using conquest? Tier set or Weps?
Just started gearing my rogue its full green Verdent set atm from honor.
In a battleground: I just got feared by a Priest 0,05 seconds after I step onto him
Kinda sus
(and no I wasnt close to him and there was noone else too)
nice try
welp
Wanna thank the chat cause i'm always lurking around and reading tips from most of you lovely people, happy new year!
gratz dude
Thanks for helping me out with the addon btw!
Gz bro
Happy new year
Huge gratz dude, enjoy the transmog!
I haven’t seen any rogue using that transmog
Happy new year and congrat
I used it for a long time, without it being a full set
how is sub rogue in 10.2?
Set mog is good. Sadly they ditched boots model for undead
#transmog message minus belt that I swapped
the elite mog is really weird though
red/black tint for pvp elite woulda been sick
Speaking of transmog when do we get our wardens maiv xmog
Is there a way to track war chests I need to get some bloody tokens the weekly quests only seen like 3 people so I didn’t get anything pretty much
every wpvp worlquest gives you 50 just for finishing them, so you get 200 for 4 Wquests. Besides that, its random with the warchests, Malicia sends a warning in one of the 6 DF zones, and you see a plane in the map, thats pretty much it.
Ty
Two major ways to farm it quickly
Jeez, I might get it by the end of war within 😂
Anyway the set looks lazy af
ill try it in the panda lol
seems like cheat death doesn't work atm
depends in which thing killed u
if is something like a glacial pike which does simultaneous but separated spells like icicle
can't seem to get it to work. was working fine til i restart wow client
then it wont trigger
wow client has nothing to do with spells.
mind games might killed you
god this class is super glitched lol
everything takes you out of slteaht
even just running lol
What should my prio be when using conquest? Tier set or Weps?
Just started gearing my rogue its full green Verdent set atm from honor.
Sin/Sub main hand conquest weapon.
Crafted Head with free mat; Crafted boot (primary stat with cc) with free mat; two tier, badge.
World pvp gear with trophy can cover a lot of pieces as cloak wrist belt and off hand weapon
Craft both rings if you could
anyone have a lol acc i can barrow?
o.o
Today I learned if you just press Kidney Shot on CD, you win
You use Badge over Insignia with Assassination?
ui question, so I've got glad ex working, but I have 2 sets of arena frames instead of just one (i.e. 2 sets of bars for both my group and enemies); anyone know where the other frames are from?
Screen shot all your addons
these are some of the ones I recently added, sorry there wasn't a super convenient way to have all of them in one shot
there's also TrufiGCD; for more context I also use elvui
i will also try to take a screenshot when i load into another solo shuffle; these extra frames dont show up otherwise
Second enemy frames are default ui. Why u have also friendly frames twice idk
anyone want too 2v2?
FrameSort is legit
I am about to launch the biggest ddos against blizzard that they have ever seen
lets see if the can mitigate 1.2Terabits
lol imagine that kind of attack
how do i go about actually disabling the default frames?
on elvui, I have unitframes -> group units -> arena -> disabled
as well as nothing checked on options -> interface -> arena enemy frames*
There is an addont for that. I dont actually remember the name (might try to search here, it got mentioned a few days ago prob)
They’ve changed that in df. So this shit is not hiding anymore. I just scaled as much as possible and moved away. So it didn’t bother me
Is this a new meme. Had back to back lobbies where dru just cyclones low hp main target. Last time this idiot managed to cyclone dh in fckin smoke bomb 
why farm bots triggers so hard when u take a titan node?
Guys a question for sin players:
For 2v2 matches (both teams healer+dps) do you dot both targets at opener? Go for ooming the enemy healer?
I lol’d so hard at your name btw
My new hobby is raising my blood pressure from lurking pve channels.
mine is raising my blood pressure by killing a third of the enemy team by myself and still losing that blitz bg
newbie on pvp, about 35% versa is okay? is too much? should i increase?
prob too much
Resto druids and discipline priests are awful to play against
But fiance and I finally hit 1600
Check murlok.io, the you can see the stats of the top 50 players in each bracket/spec
for sin that’s okay
Don’t need to decrease
yeah i disarm mages as profession
huh
<<ssssssssssssssssssssssssss
what is the addon that like gives u a focus on a player that has like a red circle around them?
Thanks
Best way to obtain tier? Just go raid and hope?
Toptarget
Feels bad spending conquest on champion gear to make tier.
yo guys, I'm starting my pvp journey as a rogue now
Any crucial tips? I have installed all the common pvp addons, got my pvp gear and setup my sub
Maybe some useful macros etc that are used atm
there's a convert thing ...
u can do myth and convert
I just broke my 2 piece Hellbloom to get the 4 piece tier set bonus
hellbloom set bonus doesnt work in instances
its only open world set bonus
so thats fine
that's useless
hellbloom set doesn't work in any pvp scenario other than world
yes
In theory you don't need that gear to PvE, and champion 476 is already pretty high
I dont want it to PvE. Does tier still up in PVP combat then?
Tier set boonus work in Arena
and any pvp scenario
but most of the effects are halved
or more
u dont need to pve u can make a full set of pvp tier withj ust conq pieces or hellbloom now
we have 3 cata charges (4 today) plus an omnitoken when u hit 1600 rating
Cursed life:
My gf accidentally used her omni token on the PvE piece when she meant to buy the PvP piece
And equipped it
😔
unlucky
you'll still have 4 cata charges as of this weeks reset tho
so thats a full tier set
Our raid leader did that last tier AFTER warning everyone not to do it and even posting images explaining the difference of the two.
CE Guild btw xD
There really should be a more clear distinction between the pieces
It does say PvP, but at the bottom, as an afterthought
Does it not say "Elite" at the top too?
Also explains that "this piece goes to 489 in PVP"
I mean, there is quite a lot of information on it no?
did a skirmish somehow as sub+rsham vs arm+heal monk
how is that possible
just two sides both happen to have 1 person short?
was a fucking 8 mins match
oh shit here we go again
I might drop rogue for the season guys.... been playing UHDK and they fucking rip. Feel like a juggernaut in bgs lol
k, gl
yea plate classes usually feel like the MC when they are in arena lobbies
Am I the only one who finds discipline priests and resto druids to just be awful to play against
like dh
It's too satisfying hitting Apocalypse and melting almost half a health bar
Boring imo
if big fights and zug is your cup o tea, you should. if you were playing rogue like that in bgs I can imagine it was painful. In bgs I am never in team fights.
but.. satisfaction is.. hitting a node with one defender.. ramping dots, hitting deathmark and kiting while his health drops a quarter bar at a tick and he cant stop it
what is not satisfying is 3 weeks of crap vaults. lol
kek. HoJ stun is going from 5 seconds to 8 seconds for ret in 10.2.5
8 second stun willl be nice
jesus
Where are u seeing that
Guys a question for sin players:
For 2v2 matches (both teams healer+dps) do you dot both targets at opener? Go for ooming the enemy healer?
Don’t look very real…
I personally double dotting only when healer is on cc dr
by cc dr do u mean stun as well? coz u kidney the kill target right?
Do we have any priority list what to buy first w the conquest that we farmed?
dont ping me
How cranky
Razer synapse: "hey you need ME to configure your mouse"
also Razer synapse: "guess all your settings are deleted randomly lul"
always a good time to be a gamer
Yea lol. It had a bug if u plugged it in to charge it replace default profile and all your keybinds are gone. Until u unplug it back
No I mean normally if they are on cc dr, like halved gauge/blind etc it’s probably the time I won’t cc healer for a 15 seconds
This is the time I am double dotting
When healer is not on cc dr, I might try to get a kill window with long cc chain
But it’s hard to be more specific when we might be playing with different healer
Like yesterday I did a few games with rsham friend (new alt from war), very rough start, but reached 2000 mmr in the end
There could be a very long cc chain we do periodically, like gauge - shanmy stun/kidney - shammy sheep or blind
When we are close to such a killing window i won’t over dotting the other healer
But once we do this combo and can’t land a kill, the next 15 seconds or so can be easy double dotting.
I guess the key thing is when you double dotting you can’t use gauge
Could be very different as well, because I go at healer a lot too
whats the current state of marksman anyone know? I've always wanted to do a mastery stacking marksman for the memes :S
its same as last season
strong against non plate rough against plate
lobbies can be very slanted against or for u but u absolutely eat mages alive which is fun
do i just target what toptarget tells me?
quite good
dafuq is that
the addon which draws a red square around a target
iam don with ss its trash only 2v2 now
wasn't your bet with Mage to get 2400 in SS
overall
no but ss sucks always a trash healer or a guy who just goes 6 wins
i will record and u will see what the fuck i mean by this trash game
was 2k2
but still far away
it seems to always be everyone else's fault but your own that you cannot win SS rounds
How do you CC a fucking preservation Evoker? Just me or are they just immune to everything?
I might be wrong about the name but during glide they are cc immune
WHY DOES EVERY0ONE USE EVAISON SO EARLY`?
If they have shroud on them (3 globes floating around). Wait 30 sec or spam sap/cheap 3 times and that’s it
Only to snares. Roots are their weakness
They do have 30 seconds cc block for 3 times
If they pre cast it it’s easy
You triple sap to consume them
Wow, 10.2.5 is in 2 weeks
What's the major thing in 10.2.5
How it feels coming back after a two months break on a spec you have played for 8 hours
Niederlage = Defeat btw 
yo when did the meta shift for sub to go tea sepsis dark brew lmao
how tf do I even play that
anyone who want to play 2v2
is there an easy way to know when someone is on stun/disorient/other cc dr
i dont really know all the icons for cc from the other classes, so although there's a big icon that shows up i generally dont have a good indicator
Play other specs 
I am not sure if there are other add on you can customize the icons to character class ones
Battleground Enemies tracks DR, and the arena addons track it as well. So you should be covered except for the outside world
I think he means he doesn’t read all icons shown there in those addons
think i understand how too play now won 6 rounds
I use the diminish and set the icons to cheap icon for stuns, sap icon incaps, blind icon disorients etc
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/diminish
That's really helpful, thank you
finally 1600 rating
LETS GO MY BOY, NOT HARD STUCK IN 1500 ANYMORE
Real and it was simple asf too get it
this week 207
Holy shit lol
1257 this season
i ran 60 TOTAL on my rogue and got to 1800, (never pvped again on the rogue)
Holy cow guys
Fiance and I have played 119 in 2v2 all season so far
Then again I'm sure solo shuffle is harder than 2v2
@wintry dew i just always look so atleast 2 people have bleeds on them and its just a win
if nobdy dies i just kill healer
idk played some 2v2 people in 1700 dosent seem so much better
i need to learn too use my feint more i barely use it. and juste the cc for reasons
@wintry dew Do rogue often run away too get too stealth again?
if possible yes
well i barerly doo that think i will start doing it
only 600 elo more and the gold is mine!!
the servers id down why?
lmao, managed to get insta pop before 14min reset and 5\1
Like a boss
WHY is servers down?
Idk, what lobby was that. All except war were eating 200k evis. (no bargain tho)
How much mastery do you have?
103 in arena
huhhh
@wintry dew 1700 rating now
in 2's?
ss
good good
@lucid citrus U think i have been doing good for this short time of wow or does everyonre reach 1700 this fast?
I think your next goal should be 1800, what is your mmr right now?
Ouff idk actually, in bed right now but around 1700 i think
reminder: i'm stupid, old, and bad. If i can hit 1800 anyone can 🙂 keep grinding 🙂
Doesn't matter the time, since you've done 1200+ rounds of SS
A normal person would have done around 1/3 of that in the same time span
1200+ rounds is astronomical, but as long as he’s improving. Next season will be a good test for him
Yeah improving is good obviously, I just think he's trying too hard to prove he's better than the average pvp Andy when learning
When it doesn't matter if he's better or not, he should focus on learning for himself xD
why blizzard. Excatly in that moment wheere I have 2h window
I'm learning sub since sl. It remains the lowest spec for me. Despite, I tried a few new (like mage) this expac.
How's it going?
Hey, returning player, haven't played with the new sub talents yet (I missed DF season 2), can someone give me a quick rundown or some sort of a guide for sub in 10.2 please?
but what about the people who are stupider, older and badder? 😦
I only played like 3 ss in this year. Watched a few vids trying to figure my mistakes. Feels better.
That's what it is all about, self improvement
Guide per say I don't know any, avidance/kalvish/nahj and pikaboo play sub often afaik so try checking them out? Someone confirm if avidance/kalvish actually play sub
thank you ^^
I always hear that rogues are one of the hardest classes in wow so I wonder how much easier it is to play dk/warrior/dh
As sub rogue i was 1,8 rbgs and 1,7 arenas but i was playing only rogue since mop
Most likely 2k. Definitely with dh
I went from 400 to 1800 with my arms warrior in a single afternoon in SS, still don't know how to properly set up a good opener besides zugzug
Pretty much this. I just pve until high damp.
Thanks, maybe i will try unholy dk
im bad af with warrior and im still hardstuck at 1550 w it
Heroic Leap, triple Shockwave, Dragon Roar 2x Blade storm
works every time 
and there is absolutely nothing that can go wrong here
No colossus?!
The best way to progress in this game is to see/read what your class should focus on and just play.
grind mindset and other that shit, you know

to find an answer to that deep question you have to active your minds eye and ask yourself "does colossus add to the comedic effect of this scene? or does not pressing colossusmash in fact increase the lulz?"
just queue blitz, people these days at least at low mmr are indistinguishable from bots
or maybe they are very convincing bots idk
me see puny rogue
me win
106% mastery. yey
You mean the math behind their decisions is working?
Beep boop affirmative.
wtf, I'm being whispered 3d time today from 0\6 blaming me 😄
4 Set or daggers first? (Sub)
Mh first
Alright. I'm 1 piece off of 4 set
Aren't there 4 charges of the catalyst already?
Yeah, there are.
Yeah I'm new to Sub haven't got enough conq to buy my last piece
You could in theory get a wpvp upgraded piece
That's what I did
I see
Okay thanks
I would take oh from wpvp and mh conq.
To min max our small burst window as much as possible
I went with conquest MH and WPvP OH
Same
Perfect I'll do the same
What ring should i craft for sin?
Vers/Mastery, I'd think (Harmonious)
Ringbound Hourglass and Signet of Titanic Insight are the same stat-wise
but you can craft 1 of each and wear both, instead of them being unique equipped
Ty
The crafted rings have less vers and more offstat(mastery) than the PvP ones
Also double check on the mastery, before you craft it. I'm not much of an authority on Rogue just parroting what I've seen
Whar should u get?
Trinket / pants need to be upgraded
Maybe the pants are the biggest upgrade stat wise?
Yours are still blue right? (I'm on mobile)
I have the lucid but i saw that shadenox played with it
Probably the upgraded version
Not the blue one I'd say
The item isn't all that matters, pvp Ilvl is way more important I'd say
And 476(?) Is way lower than 489
He plays ir blue
Aight
I will prob get the ring
How can people sat 1200 games is much its not that much
Only played wow for 200 hours
Will try getting glad today
If y played like i did it will be ez. Won 6 rounds all time idk how i got so good
Is there an addon that shows you your stats in pvp combat
Without having to hit the dummy
I’m still rocking with 486 tier parts. Funny enough my gear ilvl is the same as on dh with full conq tier
But prob still missing around 100main stat. Cuz it’s a heavy items. Chest and legs
cocky
How
way too overconfident
This is the way
until u met ppl who can press more than 2 buttons
guys is outlaw still good for shuffle or?
You may have some struggles with plate-wearing classes, but other than that it’s good
mhkay
@wintry dew nah, it didn't help. Same rollercoaster 😄
what didnt help?
My improvements 😂
0 cc lobby.
Lock or free casting or trained. High damp someone dies
xDDDD
How shit is sporecloak now? Was it a good idea to nerf it to the ground while everything deals a gazillion times more damage now? or is it fine
won 3, lose one 0-6. and repeat
shit afaik
just feel like its better to log in into my dh and just pve ppl down drinking beer
does queing in higer elo take more time
sitting 30 min lobbies now
and they leave:(
Sometimes shit weeks
1 hour queue now fuck me
just might get week or two off from this shit, cuz thats insane
btw, how wars doing just absurd dam with bladestorm even with feint?
I dont get how to play DB + Sepsis can someone explain lmao
getting 30+ elo from 4 wins is pain
u just use sepsis as ss once thats all
is 30 elo form 4 wins decent?
Pretty normal I would say
Depends on what your mmr was, whether you are coming off a win streak or lose streak etc
nice. shuffle bugged
this look about right for one dance + blades?
with sepsis
also why is this better than The Rotten + Perf Veins + Goremaws
genuinely asking cuz idk anything lmao
cuz of tier set
blades will top any goremaw burst because full cp evis every other gcd is huge
which is why its also a longer cd
One dance + one blade?
ohhhh okay
so when I open, since I got Subterfuge am I pressing Blades right as I cheap for max CP right out of stealth and then pressing SD+symbols and continuing as normal?
only ranged i stand 0 chance
Well first I think subterfuge is questionable…
Then I think first go is better with kidney since you get to sap healer most likely
I think it’s in general easier to sap and ss + dance, with first dance you have 7 cp already
on murlok.io 49 people take it out of 50
Back on 1600 rating waow
so you ss > dance > kidney > blades > ss > evis?
oh wait that second ss should be sepsis huh
You can do sepsis and ST
well it does get buffed by dark brew
I think most don’t use all CDs at open
if you use blades you're going for a kill so shouldnt you send sepsis
But regardless with ss and kidney, you can do another ss + evis and one sepsis/bite/ss and ST and then DR cs
oh so cs > evis > cs > evis

