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stoic spruce
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wait

surreal barn
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Thing is you still have to know how to kill someone, cause that warrior or DH will kill both of you if you don’t lol

wild flint
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but i mean, if u lose to every team that has a pet and win when they don't have one, that's still above a 50% winrate as long as u don't meet too many hunters

worthy crag
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no, its more like a 100% lose rate vs teams with pets and still like 50% on other teams

stoic spruce
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hey guys
i created a BRILLIANT STRATEGY
it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO LOSE WITH IT
at least in my mind
i just need another rogue who will play with me
the strategy is very simple
we sit afk stealthed in the base of the 2v2 arena, enemy will not know what's going and be confused
eventually they will check but we can just sap then grappling hook to the other side of the map which only has a 30 sec cd
from there all we have to do is not get damaged until dampening hits like 60-70%
at which point their healer is useless so it's basically a 2v1
and we have vanish + cloak with pvp talent for full reset every 2 min
it's like playing hide and seek
until the dampening meter hits the point of no return
and they become toast

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S tier copypasta

worthy crag
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should ping Everyone with it, let the world know

stoic spruce
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im gonna spread it to other discords

wild flint
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i once pinged the koffing guy to tell him how amazed i am that they made a pokemon based on his name

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but he never responded

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oh well

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maybe 2nd time's the charm?

worthy crag
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did you know that, meowth was such a popular pokemon, that cats actually evolved to sound like them

wild flint
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wow that's amazing

wild flint
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and if they grab it

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u just LOS em until it's over

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they can't see u on LOS right?

worthy crag
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but its literally 50 50

stoic spruce
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they can. the gem is an aoe thing

wild flint
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yeah but if i'm hiding behind a wall they shouldnt have vision of me

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its literally how it works in real life

worthy crag
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or they could grab both gems on both sidse of the map

wild flint
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nooo wtf

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there are 2 gems??????

stoic spruce
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yes

worthy crag
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lol.

wild flint
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this might slightly hurt my strategy

stoic spruce
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amazing display

wild flint
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i feel like blizzard made this only to counter this insanely good strategy

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no other reason

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they would make 2 gems like that

worthy crag
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I mean, yeah?

wild flint
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so my strategy is still brilliant

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just a little too late

worthy crag
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IIRC gems didnt even exist when arena was first introduced

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and they realized some ppl were sitting in stealth for 43 minutes

wild flint
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yeah its like the guy who invented WWW

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he was genius

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but if he didnt invent it

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prob some1 else would have

worthy crag
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and in legion it was an actual strat

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cuz people could vanish after grabbing gem

wild flint
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yeah u cant do that anymore

worthy crag
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and sub vanish was like 45 sec cd

wild flint
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sadly

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outlaw vanish is 20 sec

worthy crag
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p sure it was 30 sec in season 3

wild flint
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cuz each reset reduces by 7-10.5 sec

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if u roll for the one that gives higher cd reset

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i watched doctor daggers

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and he literally use vanish and 20 sec later its back off cd

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he use hook 3 sec later its back up

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its like his abilities have no cd

worthy crag
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and still proceed to lose to every plate team

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outlaw life

stoic spruce
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I wish something else countered us instead of an entire armor class lol

wild flint
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doctor daggers finished 4th in 2v2

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i don't think he was losing much

stoic spruce
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im not doctor daggers

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people win against their counters all the time

wild flint
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yeah

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u just gotta believe in urself

stoic spruce
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that means a lot coming from you

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really

wild flint
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believe in the heart of the daggers

stoic spruce
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well I play double 1H like a real outlaw rogue

wild flint
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so do i

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offhand dagger

stoic spruce
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no offhand dagger

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thats for fake outlaw rogues

worthy crag
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why should outlaw be bound to the rule of wielding a specific weapon type

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they are outlaws, they should outlaw their law and just swing greatswords

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and wear plate

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cant beat em, join em

wild flint
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yeah

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edwin didn't follow other's rules

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he created his own

worthy crag
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in fact, dont even wield a weapon

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just use fists

wild flint
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his hs quotes are so good

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THE BROTHERHOOD SHALL PREVAIL

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LAPDOGS, ALL OF YOU

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u could just feel it in his voice

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nothing made opponents concede quite like dropping a 16/16 minion on turn 2

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he even has his own hero with even more epic voice quotes

brazen drift
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proceeds to play Ironbeak Owl

stoic spruce
wild flint
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owlsen strikes again

waxen meteor
wild flint
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this guy almost makes me wanna play classic

waxen meteor
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Man I miss blind 3 sap for reset

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And cheap shot kidney no dr

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I love those

wild flint
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blonde hair shobek is amazing

still abyss
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who are the best sub streamers to watch for learning content?

stoic spruce
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Pikaboo

worthy crag
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pikaboo is good for entertainment, horrible for educational stuff

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90% of what you watch is just gonna be 1650 mmr 2s with him pressing flagellation one shot sequence

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against people who are so horribly unaware that they trinket on gouge

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(unless he streams his actual team 3s which is realllly rare)

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Id suggest nahj but he can be depressed a lot of times

stoic spruce
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like, 80% of the time

worthy crag
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problem is people trying to learn sub for the first time by watching him will think what he's doing is actual meta

stoic spruce
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could also watch me

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and youll learn what not to do

sharp sierra
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jesus do warriors hit hard

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500k mortal strike :/

last jasper
stoic spruce
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Whoever sees this as a win has the foresight of a blind rat.

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He won years ago

sharp pumice
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He won, but he's gone

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I still think blizzard is a corpse being puppeted, but, the killer is no longer wearing it as a fucking skinsuit, so it's an improvement

mighty plover
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Could anyone link nahj's stream? or youtube channel? The only thing i can find is 7 months old on YT.

last jasper
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he is offline now. Gonna go live in 7-8 hours prob

last jasper
stoic spruce
stoic spruce
sharp pumice
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I mean, hate if you want, but SoD has had me entertained

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Retail is too bloated, we aren't suffering from a lack of content, we're suffering from irrelevant complexity

stoic spruce
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Not hating. Just convinced that this does nothing for me is all

sharp pumice
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I don't think it'll do much substantively for at least a year

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But, God, can we prune back like, everything

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I didn't like their pruning abilities, and I still wouldn't

last jasper
stoic spruce
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I'd argue there's just as big a chance as before tbh

last jasper
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Pretty sure his departure was one the reason for metzen to return

stoic spruce
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Perjaps

sharp pumice
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But having 31 debuffs buffs and side effects is just

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Like

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Fucking kill me

stoic spruce
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I agree. Take acro and gouge off the rogue tree.

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That belongs to outlaw >:)

last jasper
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Nah, I love gouge. Don’t take it away pls 😂

sharp pumice
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As mostly a warrior I'm intensely jealous of acro

stoic spruce
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And disarm too, because I'm petty.

sharp pumice
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Bitch gouge isn't yours

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Parley is

stoic spruce
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Mmmm nah

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You can have parley

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Gouge is mine

last jasper
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Too late mate

sharp pumice
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I mean it was ranged, so really you were getting the better deal

stoic spruce
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Gouge is ranged too

sharp pumice
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And iirc not subject to melee hit shit

stoic spruce
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By 8 yards

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With acro

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Yknow

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Outlaw stuff

sharp pumice
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Ie couldn't be dodged or parried

stoic spruce
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I wish discord kept messages from way back when Realz said he regretted putting acro in the class tree.

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I would frame it and put it above my fireplace

sharp pumice
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Kinda feel like everybody needs acro

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Long arm of the law

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Etc

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Just make that base melee for damage dealers

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Arms not having it feels weird

stoic spruce
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Yes let's make it harder to kite melee

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10/10 idea

sharp pumice
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Yes

stoic spruce
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Rogue spoiled you

sharp pumice
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Not being able to play the game is mildly frustrating

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It did

stoic spruce
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Arms needs to be culled

jolly sierra
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its funny af to be midrange w ret

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most abilities has 20y+ range

sharp pumice
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Ret does more damage from midrange than they do up in your grill

jolly sierra
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fucking mages

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huh

sharp pumice
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I know that isn't a statement of fact

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But it really feels that way

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The number of times I've broken off from a ret and still died

jolly sierra
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a decent ret would run around u doing that shit while u try to chase

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the range gap does enough for that

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the funny thing i recall bout them was in s1

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pre rework

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when were so despaired about deathmark

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so basically was force bubble without effort

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then deathmark

hybrid rapids
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@jolly sierra may I dm? I have a very specific question from your vods

jolly sierra
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im about to breakfast, so go ahead

stoic spruce
jolly sierra
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cereal and some bread

stoic spruce
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Ooo

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Is it yummy?

thick dagger
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Is it normal for me to only hit 100k Evis crits at 482 ilvl secret tech hitting for about 80 as well and this is with badge and blood fury .?

jolly sierra
nova viper
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like that? kekdog

wanton breach
jolly sierra
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but bread bread, not loafs

cosmic thistle
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what talents should i play with i currently play smoke, veil, hemotoxin

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what taöents should i change against certian classes?

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do i do death from aboxe abaistnt rage?

surreal barn
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Disarm warriors DH MM hunt and DK

mortal jay
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smoke veil required. hemo, control is king, and dismantle are your variables.. dismantle against classes that can't do ish when dismantled, hemotoxin against squishy classes with good healers, control when no melee to dismantle, and weak healers.

still abyss
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would you recommend using duel as a brand new rogue who's basically never touched the class?

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(sub)

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or just try to focus on fundamentals and play talents like control is king until class feels good

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or veil I guess

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control not so hot for sub...

surreal barn
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Sub always takes duel

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Most overpowered skill in the game imo

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Even just using it after your cc chain wins entire matches

native vessel
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I've been wondering if I'm doing something terribly wrong while playing pvp with my hunter who has been my main for ages (mainly in pve, just dipping into pvp for cosmetics etc) and it feels like while playing either MM or BM there's a significant lack of impact and it feels like I'm hitting like a wet noodle, my iLvl is decent and my gameplay at least mechanically is sound enough, but there's just something that feels lacking. I tend to play rogue quite a lot in pve as well so could that be the fix I've been looking for, my rogue is slightly less well geared than my hunter though so would it matter?

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as for specs I'm most comfortable playing assassination since it at least to me feels most straight forward, though subtlety has quite a high burst damage which could be better pvp, outlaw just doesn't click with me so it's a tossup between those two, any tips/recommendations

tired lagoon
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4 set worth it for sub?

worthy crag
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yes

wild flint
wary moss
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I just got my 4 set for my lock... it cranks damage so hard. Lmao

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Way better than I expected

mortal jay
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had a few 3/3 2/4 lobbies..

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just went 6/0 and had a warrior ask me "what.. are you some punkass glad or something..."

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i giggled

waxen meteor
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That’s a good person

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When I 60 warrior chased me to say I am noob

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PMed me 15 mins till I reported him

jolly sierra
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that is the mildest DM

waxen meteor
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Sometimes people are just so dumb

mortal jay
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only went 6 and 0 because there were two not great players

jolly sierra
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one evoker w a glad mount called me a fucking trash because he was going 0-X

mortal jay
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so nearly every round i had an obvious target

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undergeared mage, and terrible bm hunter 🙂

waxen meteor
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Yesterday there was a affl lock killed me while I was afk outside of ICC raid entrance. I came back when I was like 10% hp but still died. Then I revived and flew away, he chases on mount lol, then I landed and he came, I killed him. Then I sit there, he revive again and tried me and got killed again, then I started to /lol /sigh, and flew away, then that mother fucker flew to mountain to throw dot on me, then I had to kill him again, so in the end I killed him 8 times in total….

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Those people really have brain issue

jolly sierra
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some persons are sore losers

mortal jay
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tbf.. i dont like losing

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i used to punch lockers in high school when I lost wrestling matches

waxen meteor
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Yeah but you grow to be better and try

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Not just keeping losing more

mortal jay
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in my defense.. that was 25 years ago, and then after punching lockers, I went home and watched my tapes for hours, then went running for 5 miles

waxen meteor
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And I honestly understand the immediate try back for a couple of times

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But 8 times and chase me on flying mount like need for speed?

thick dagger
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Is it normal for me to only hit 100k Evis crits at 482 ilvl secret tech hitting for about 80 as well and this is with badge and blood fury .?

sour pendant
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Hello guys! What spec is the current go to for pvp? Gonna do it soon with my rogue 🙂

mortal jay
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do you have teammates you can play with and or are able to communicate well and set up cc chains and "go" opportunities? sub might be for you!. do you like the idea of spread pressure, have great game sense and awareness and are able to use cc appropriately for deathmark kingsbane opportunities? try assass. are you adhd, like to roleplay as captain jack sparrow, and have an average of 300 apm in every game you play? try outlaw

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orrrr play a few bgs, spend a few minutes on the training dummies and decide which you like the feel of

sick wasp
mortal jay
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whoop

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pushed to 1803 last week, dropped to 1450 this week, finally climbed back to 1823

wary moss
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okay.... my step/kick macro will not work and its driving me crazy

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anyone else have this issue

waxen meteor
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I had to quick double click

last jasper
mortal jay
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castsequence macros require you to push the key for as many spells as are on the macro

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spells that re just /cast blah /cast blah.. will try to cast all spells at once.. however comma

last jasper
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isn't step of gcd?

wary moss
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it is

mortal jay
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you can not use two spells that are gcd at the same time

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try /cast shadowstep /cast kick instezd of /castsequence?

wary moss
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wait

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it isnt

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not on GCD

mortal jay
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icyveins guide has a list of macros

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just remember if its castsequence it has to be pressed twice

last jasper
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it might cast it before u end up near the target with ur step

mortal jay
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Using this macro will use Shadowstep Icon Shadowstep on your focus enemy. If you press this macro again, it will use Kick Icon Kick on your focus target. This makes it easier to interrupt an enemy while keeping your current target.

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etc etc

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should work the same without focus.

wary moss
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#showtooltip
/cast [target=focus] Shadowstep
/cast [target=focus] Kick

From Icy veins. it only steps and doesnt kick and if i press again it just steps again

mortal jay
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dunno. its the one ive used,. guess blizz changed it to not work

waxen meteor
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But I don’t like it I just do step focus then manual kick

wary moss
last jasper
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it gives me "not in range" so it faster than step

waxen meteor
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Regardless you need to press it twice anyway so just focus step is good

last jasper
cosmic thistle
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how can people get boosted and not get banned?

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anyone wanna do some 2v2?

last jasper
jolly sierra
cosmic thistle
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nah thats insane stupid wow

last jasper
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I wonder, can we use like razer synapsis macros. Or I could get a ban for this?

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on other hand, ppl are clearly fake cast scripting and its okay

cosmic thistle
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this is sweden röker på kush my eyes are bleeding

cosmic thistle
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guys i got emeralrd mark of dream what should i buy with it?

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was nothing i seen that i played with pve soulders XD

sharp sierra
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is sudden demise a good talent to take?

jolly sierra
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its the best one to take as assa

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in end ones alongside kingsbane

hollow horizon
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any guide of how to play the assa rogue | frost mague one 2c2?

wild flint
last jasper
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Ok, I might would need mental care after holidays. 😂
every single time I'm 1 win from rival I get melee zugzug

gleaming pawn
# jolly sierra its the best one to take as assa

I've been wanting to do some TC on that, because it's not assa's best single target setup and in my experience the only time sudden demise got the killing blow for me, that person was going to die regardless

hollow horizon
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sub in pvp its better? im new at rogue

waxen meteor
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Sub atm is still a better and sub always fits rogue mage better than any other specs

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Sub has more CD, better burst dmg, better movement, better survival/resets

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Sin burst basically comes out like a few seconds after your setup and kidney, which leaves more room for opponents to react

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Sub burst just come right off when you call it

jolly sierra
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in my 6-0 at 1k7 it gave me 6 final blows

gleaming pawn
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right

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but it triggers at 35%, and usually kills are happening in a stun

waxen meteor
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I think 10% bleed might already worths it

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It does pop and get some kills

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On the other hand I think you are right if we are able to push target down to 10% they are dead anyway

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But in some cases there could be some key CD still there like HP swap and BoP etc

wild flint
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sub - best for burst but relies on teammate to go with u and not fuck up ur DR

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assass - best for dampening

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outlaw - best for consistent dps

waxen meteor
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With mage at 2s you only need burst and resets basically

wild flint
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of those i think sin is the easiest to paly

waxen meteor
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If you zug in mage/rogue you gonna lose

hollow horizon
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So i need to learn sub, bc im playing with my friend who is a frost mague

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Any good guide to rely on?

waxen meteor
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Well rogue mage if basically you two cc one, and send a go on the other, then try to kite and reset wait for DR and have another go till they die

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Don’t do like 25 seconds fight till your next go

hollow horizon
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so short fights, what is DR?

waxen meteor
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Let’s say this, when your go is finished, you are low energy and you both no cd, and enemy is not stunned/cced. In most cases you won’t be able to land a kill even if their HP is fairly low. So in this next 15 seconds, you goal is not to fighting them face to face for another 15 seconds until you have another full stun, because in this 15 seconds you most likely going to get killed and hurt a lot and you have no heal

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Dr is when you and your teammate apply same type of cc on same person, the next one duration will be halved

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Then next one will be 1/4

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Then immune

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Until reset

jolly sierra
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without reaction

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that is one of the things which makes its good alongside the 10% more bleed dmg

nova jay
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How is ferocious bite hitting for 200+ k

waxen meteor
nova jay
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What's vein and what's rotten for a feral druid?

waxen meteor
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Or shit I thought you mean our bite PogO

last jasper
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Ok, deleting my rogue 😄

cosmic thistle
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what is good opner for 2v2 as rgue sin

lucid citrus
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Merek go watch Shadenox's video

cosmic thistle
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he does 2v2?

lucid citrus
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he explains how to play Sin rogue in any brack, Solo, 2v2 or 3v3

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I mean we told you and you have watched shadenox's video.. yet you still ask for the same thing? lol

cosmic thistle
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never asked this

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  • iam high asf
lucid citrus
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yeah watch his videos, he literally explains everything, what gear to have, different builds focusing on ST or aoe, and he also explains different openers

cosmic thistle
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ait

rancid merlin
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Happy Holidays you filthy animals!

sharp sierra
jolly sierra
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u wont like it

sharp sierra
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in icy veins they don't use it

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guide*

jolly sierra
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dont follow fucking outdated guides

rancid merlin
jolly sierra
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if i can understand ur english then is good

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btw a lot of ppl here is not english native (including myself) so imagine how we talk lol

waxen meteor
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I remember someone posted a sin pvp guide a while back

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Does anyone still have the link

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It’s not pined PogO

hollow horizon
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Any good guide of sub rogue? 😄

wild flint
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i saw kalvish speccing outlaw

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not a good look for sub rogues

sharp sierra
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is it better to get the conq weap or the gear on assa

last jasper
wild flint
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not even close

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oh u mean solo shuffle

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interesting nahj is 2nd 3rd and 4th

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there's a guy who is 2163 rating with Tank DH

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that's insane

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all the tank specs top at like 1850 rating

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actually protect pala can reach almost 2100

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destruction warlock is so busted

gleaming pawn
# waxen meteor Does anyone still have the link

Hey ! This video ismyy Assassination Rogue PvP Guide for Dragonflight Season 3, Patch 10.2. Assassination my favorite specialization in World of Warcraft, so I hope I can make you enjoy it as well!

Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:44 Stats
3:42 Gear
5:16 Talents
10:09 Honor Talents
13:05 Playstyle
14:06 Rotation
19:34 Arena Comps
21:41 Macros
23:55 Add...

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waxen meteor
wild flint
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it's too bad warlock is fucking trash in 2v2

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affliction and destruction specifically

surreal barn
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Get MH dagger

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Then prob 2 set

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Even before 2set prob craft stat boots

stoic spruce
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Get embellishments last

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They're all garbage

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There's not a world where youd want an embellish before your mainstat pieces

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Unless that world had all of them unnerfed

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Then we can talk

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#buffoutlaw

brazen drift
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Hope all my fellow backstabbers have a good new year. waveee

worthy crag
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does spark get uncapped later in the season?

fiery gorge
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The Rotten or Dark Brew for sub ?

jolly sierra
stoic spruce
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what about it

jolly sierra
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isnt good enough

stoic spruce
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it is not good

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its okay at best

languid ravine
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of course you craft the boots first because you get a free token

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duh

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also wtheck is this smorc meta I am coming back from 2 months break and there is bots pumping a hundred thousand dps

fiery gorge
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someone can explain what happened at 0:50?
he was 4% health, went into stealth and after few secs he was 75% ?
and why couldnt the shurikens get him out of stealth ? they have big aoe range and he was very close

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also how I could have played it better lol

languid ravine
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you can cheap shot against evasion and then hit them if you stand exactly behind them

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that heal probably health potion or some world pvp item maybe

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looking at murloc top subs still playing Cheat Death while having to take the therefore dead talent for +1 charge of feint

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:^) nice rework

wanton breach
sharp sierra
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am i alone?

fiery gorge
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lifebloom circled

fiery gorge
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only from front ?

jolly sierra
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they cant dodge anything in stun

last jasper
jolly sierra
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, feint is good af for assa

last jasper
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I play feint too. Saved my ass quite a lot.

languid ravine
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complete nonsense

last jasper
languid ravine
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Yea yea I m just exaggerating

sturdy canopy
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Cheats better in solos due to all the bs that occurs, feints still really good in 3s and 2s especially if you preempt gos

languid ravine
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you right though I was reading more into it than what you wrote sorry x)

last jasper
languid ravine
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why is the blue bloody token gear worse than the green honour gear bliizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

fiery gorge
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Generally, is it better to cheap shot right before using secret technique, and after one shadowstrike, eviscerate and backstab for danse macabre stacks ?

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danse macabre stacked -> cheap shot -> secret technique, eviscerate, shadowstrike, eviscerate for uninterrupted dmg ?

languid ravine
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what is it called when one keyboard button doesnt work when too many others are pressed simultaneously?

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okay found it I guess its called ghosting'

lime oar
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Sorry actually goremaw before the secret tech instead of shadowstrike

cosmic thistle
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anyone who want too play 2v2?

last jasper
lime oar
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Just for danse stacks

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Doesn’t really matter in wpvp

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I guess u could rupture after sepsis, adding another stack, then ss evis, goremaw, secret tech. Idk if u have enough time in one dance

chrome schooner
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Playing for Danse stacks is stupid though

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You do way more damage if you hit the Evisc button twice instead of 1x Evis + 1x Rupture

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One full Evis is way more damage than +4% on the sectech

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Danse is basically free bonus damage, don't play around it and just do your max damage rotation. The last few spells will hit even harder, and that's all

nova viper
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new year new me

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in 2024 i take glad

nova viper
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happy new year spanish boy

jolly sierra
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happy new year too polish soldier

cosmic thistle
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Ty

warped oriole
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hey there, im freshly starting ol rogue for pvp and have a question. Should I use Vanish to activate crackshot or is vanish just a pure defensive cd?

limber birch
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hey, hows outlaw in shuffle these days?:) havent played in a while

broken otter
halcyon timber
# warped oriole hey there, im freshly starting ol rogue for pvp and have a question. Should I us...

It all “depends” for all rogues. Risk vs reward situation you have to gauge for yourself.

  • can the target seriously take a whooping right now?
  • what diminishing returns are off atm. What is available atm? Can i chain things or create space for team mates?
  • potential danger you can put yourself in if positioning isn’t hot atm.
    Lots of decision making based on pressure/ cds you have / cds enemies trade / team cds etc.
worthy crag
#

can i keep malicia's hoard box from a previous week and open it right after tuesday reset for instant spark fragment?

shadow creek
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Happy 123123 day, y’all

jolly sierra
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im free from hotel job

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now ill wait at home till fireworks and sleep

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fuck u guests

worthy crag
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i was playing 2s with this disc, nothing serious and just casual

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after like 4 games i realized they werent playing power word radiance

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crazy stuff

sharp sierra
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how is sub rogue in pvp?

wild flint
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gleaming pawn
#

damn, not even skillcapped talking about Outlaw rogue CDs to worry about

tired lagoon
#

Torc of Passed Time

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Talk to me guysss, Is it worth getting

broken otter
#

Torc gives you more Mastery and less Versatility, I think.

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If you're on Tichondrius, hmu, I'll make you a rank 5 one for free.

lime oar
jolly sierra
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@cosmic thistle can give u 5 arena in 2s

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but ill record them

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XD

cosmic thistle
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Mage can we do it tomorow? Iam drunk asf now

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😽

tired lagoon
broken otter
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np

cosmic thistle
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@jolly sierra in 3h we can play if ur down but iam if iam too drunk we do tomroeowkrj

jolly sierra
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k

cosmic thistle
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U can recors me top iknow iam good asf

gleaming pawn
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that should be interesting

cosmic thistle
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I mean i play in 1700mmr and iam winning so

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Also in ss i can manage too carry 0 win players

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5 games won in ss

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With 0 min mage gave him 2 eins

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Fuck iam too drunk cya

jolly sierra
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ye funny af

cosmic thistle
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Its me too the leff

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Leff

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Left

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Fuxk

broken otter
#

You're drunk? You look 6 lol

cosmic thistle
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Wdym dude i look 18 obv

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Kiddinng

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Iam@rol rhe rifhr

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Its me to the right

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74TMR-FCR6X-W7G4G-MQFX3-36WKZ

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This code is for xbox premiums vlaim it

chrome schooner
cosmic thistle
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Free games

jolly sierra
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dude

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u ok lol

last jasper
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Just why

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Happy new year, ninjas!

sharp sierra
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Happy new year

cosmic thistle
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Happy new year new rank too get

jolly sierra
#

face revea

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l

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face reveal

slim iron
cosmic thistle
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What is sus about that haha

nova dragon
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Are the elite transmogs acc wide for the specific class

broken otter
#

Yes.

nova dragon
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aight

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tryna get the rogue set but cba wasting sparks on main just gonna boost an alt lmao

cosmic thistle
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@jolly sierra play?

jolly sierra
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im recording u

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im going w ret

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we are playing rn

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im sending everything

last jasper
jolly sierra
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1/5

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2/5

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totally transparent guys

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even losses

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disclaimer

i went ret w him to support, i refuse to heal

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and could work

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5/5

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give ur conclusions, i was fully aware we could lose when they brought healers

jolly bear
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am I dumb or does blue silken lining not stack

jolly sierra
#

let them talk dood

nova dragon
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orc or night elf for arena as assa/sub

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murlok io has like majority as night elf but idk if its actually for meld or just looks

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20% stun reduc and extra on use sounds pretty good to me idk

nova dragon
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r u sure it says 20% on tooltip

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unless its diff in pvp

cosmic thistle
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@last jasper did i play bad?

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how do i even master dimishing?

last jasper
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It would be too op to leave orcs with another 20% on top of all cc nerf before

last jasper
nova dragon
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thx

fiery gorge
#

Happy new year everybody

fiery gorge
last jasper
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They don’t. It’s a meme build

surreal barn
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Need more cc on that off target from your end @cosmic thistle, also - use smoke bomb more

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Most of your games you could have ripped a huge bomb opener and @jolly sierra would have just killed them in it

nova dragon
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how shit is ret/rogue/rdruid in 3s

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on scale of 1-terrible

fiery gorge
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or hpala/warri

nova dragon
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cus my friends play ret and rdruid

fiery gorge
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oka

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what ratings do you guys play in ?

nova dragon
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like 2kish

fiery gorge
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4/10 maybe

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if you have good communication with each other

sharp sierra
#

Drunk af but happy new year all

torpid fog
#

What should my prio be when using conquest? Tier set or Weps?

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Just started gearing my rogue its full green Verdent set atm from honor.

languid ravine
#

In a battleground: I just got feared by a Priest 0,05 seconds after I step onto him
Kinda sus
(and no I wasnt close to him and there was noone else too)

nova viper
jolly sierra
hybrid rapids
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Wanna thank the chat cause i'm always lurking around and reading tips from most of you lovely people, happy new year!

pale storm
#

grats

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happy new year fellow rogue enjoyers

jolly sierra
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gratz dude

hybrid rapids
sharp sierra
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lmao does mes ever sleep

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guy streams 24/7 on twitch lol

waxen meteor
#

Happy new year

wintry dew
waxen meteor
#

OMEGAKEKW I haven’t seen any rogue using that transmog

wintry dew
sharp sierra
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how is sub rogue in 10.2?

last jasper
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Set mog is good. Sadly they ditched boots model for undead

grave basin
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red/black tint for pvp elite woulda been sick

surreal barn
#

Speaking of transmog when do we get our wardens maiv xmog

wintry dew
#

today

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if you did the trading post for the last 12 months

waxen meteor
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oh shoot#

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I forgot trading post rolls over already

thick dagger
#

Is there a way to track war chests I need to get some bloody tokens the weekly quests only seen like 3 people so I didn’t get anything pretty much

wintry dew
waxen meteor
last jasper
wintry dew
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nvm

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im following your thoughts

last jasper
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Anyway the set looks lazy af

jolly sierra
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ill try it in the panda lol

sharp sierra
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seems like cheat death doesn't work atm

jolly sierra
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depends in which thing killed u

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if is something like a glacial pike which does simultaneous but separated spells like icicle

sharp sierra
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can't seem to get it to work. was working fine til i restart wow client

jolly sierra
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then it wont trigger

last jasper
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mind games might killed you

sharp sierra
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god this class is super glitched lol

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everything takes you out of slteaht

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even just running lol

torpid fog
#

What should my prio be when using conquest? Tier set or Weps?
Just started gearing my rogue its full green Verdent set atm from honor.

waxen meteor
#

World pvp gear with trophy can cover a lot of pieces as cloak wrist belt and off hand weapon

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Craft both rings if you could

cosmic thistle
#

anyone have a lol acc i can barrow?

wintry dew
#

o.o

low ridge
#

Today I learned if you just press Kidney Shot on CD, you win

low ridge
slim violet
#

ui question, so I've got glad ex working, but I have 2 sets of arena frames instead of just one (i.e. 2 sets of bars for both my group and enemies); anyone know where the other frames are from?

slim violet
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these are some of the ones I recently added, sorry there wasn't a super convenient way to have all of them in one shot

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there's also TrufiGCD; for more context I also use elvui

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i will also try to take a screenshot when i load into another solo shuffle; these extra frames dont show up otherwise

last jasper
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Second enemy frames are default ui. Why u have also friendly frames twice idk

cosmic thistle
#

anyone want too 2v2?

sharp sierra
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I am about to launch the biggest ddos against blizzard that they have ever seen

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lets see if the can mitigate 1.2Terabits

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lol imagine that kind of attack

slim violet
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on elvui, I have unitframes -> group units -> arena -> disabled

as well as nothing checked on options -> interface -> arena enemy frames*

last jasper
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There is an addont for that. I dont actually remember the name (might try to search here, it got mentioned a few days ago prob)

slim violet
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gotcha

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thank you for the tip

last jasper
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Is this a new meme. Had back to back lobbies where dru just cyclones low hp main target. Last time this idiot managed to cyclone dh in fckin smoke bomb starege

jolly sierra
#

why farm bots triggers so hard when u take a titan node?

terse fjord
#

Guys a question for sin players:
For 2v2 matches (both teams healer+dps) do you dot both targets at opener? Go for ooming the enemy healer?

terse fjord
stoic spruce
languid ravine
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mine is raising my blood pressure by killing a third of the enemy team by myself and still losing that blitz bg

worn oasis
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newbie on pvp, about 35% versa is okay? is too much? should i increase?

sharp sierra
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prob too much

steel scarab
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Resto druids and discipline priests are awful to play against

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But fiance and I finally hit 1600

wintry dew
waxen meteor
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Don’t need to decrease

jolly sierra
cosmic thistle
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<<ssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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what is the addon that like gives u a focus on a player that has like a red circle around them?

torpid fog
#

Best way to obtain tier? Just go raid and hope?

torpid fog
#

Feels bad spending conquest on champion gear to make tier.

cosmic thistle
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buy hellnloom gear gillbert

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hellbloom

hazy gust
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yo guys, I'm starting my pvp journey as a rogue now

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Any crucial tips? I have installed all the common pvp addons, got my pvp gear and setup my sub

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Maybe some useful macros etc that are used atm

waxen meteor
sharp sierra
steel scarab
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I just broke my 2 piece Hellbloom to get the 4 piece tier set bonus

tribal badger
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hellbloom set bonus doesnt work in instances

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its only open world set bonus

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so thats fine

waxen meteor
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hellbloom set doesn't work in any pvp scenario other than world

steel scarab
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Seriously???

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😶

tribal badger
#

yes

wintry dew
torpid fog
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I dont want it to PvE. Does tier still up in PVP combat then?

waxen meteor
#

Tier set boonus work in Arena

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and any pvp scenario

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but most of the effects are halved

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or more

tribal badger
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u dont need to pve u can make a full set of pvp tier withj ust conq pieces or hellbloom now

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we have 3 cata charges (4 today) plus an omnitoken when u hit 1600 rating

steel scarab
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Cursed life:

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My gf accidentally used her omni token on the PvE piece when she meant to buy the PvP piece

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And equipped it

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😔

tribal badger
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unlucky

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you'll still have 4 cata charges as of this weeks reset tho

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so thats a full tier set

torpid fog
#

Our raid leader did that last tier AFTER warning everyone not to do it and even posting images explaining the difference of the two.

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CE Guild btw xD

steel scarab
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There really should be a more clear distinction between the pieces

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It does say PvP, but at the bottom, as an afterthought

torpid fog
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Does it not say "Elite" at the top too?

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Also explains that "this piece goes to 489 in PVP"

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I mean, there is quite a lot of information on it no?

waxen meteor
#

did a skirmish somehow as sub+rsham vs arm+heal monk

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how is that possible

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just two sides both happen to have 1 person short?

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was a fucking 8 mins match

tribal badger
#

yea probably

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very unlikely lol but it happens

waxen meteor
#

that war is good

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he used swrod everytime with blade

jolly sierra
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oh shit here we go again

waxen meteor
#

doing the craft necklace today

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but i feel no longer excited about sub anyway

wary moss
#

I might drop rogue for the season guys.... been playing UHDK and they fucking rip. Feel like a juggernaut in bgs lol

jolly sierra
#

k, gl

tribal badger
#

yea plate classes usually feel like the MC when they are in arena lobbies

steel scarab
#

Am I the only one who finds discipline priests and resto druids to just be awful to play against

tribal badger
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like dh

wary moss
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It's too satisfying hitting Apocalypse and melting almost half a health bar

lime oar
#

Boring imo

mortal jay
#

if big fights and zug is your cup o tea, you should. if you were playing rogue like that in bgs I can imagine it was painful. In bgs I am never in team fights.

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but.. satisfaction is.. hitting a node with one defender.. ramping dots, hitting deathmark and kiting while his health drops a quarter bar at a tick and he cant stop it

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what is not satisfying is 3 weeks of crap vaults. lol

sharp sierra
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kek. HoJ stun is going from 5 seconds to 8 seconds for ret in 10.2.5

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8 second stun willl be nice

#

jesus

lime oar
#

Where are u seeing that

terse fjord
#

Guys a question for sin players:
For 2v2 matches (both teams healer+dps) do you dot both targets at opener? Go for ooming the enemy healer?

waxen meteor
waxen meteor
terse fjord
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by cc dr do u mean stun as well? coz u kidney the kill target right?

jolly sierra
#

i dot both

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and stun the healer in runs

hazy gust
#

Do we have any priority list what to buy first w the conquest that we farmed?

steel scarab
#

@jolly sierra this is what I do too

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DoT both, kidney the healer

jolly sierra
wary moss
#

How cranky

languid ravine
#

Razer synapse: "hey you need ME to configure your mouse"
also Razer synapse: "guess all your settings are deleted randomly lul"

#

always a good time to be a gamer

last jasper
#

Yea lol. It had a bug if u plugged it in to charge it replace default profile and all your keybinds are gone. Until u unplug it back

waxen meteor
#

This is the time I am double dotting

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When healer is not on cc dr, I might try to get a kill window with long cc chain

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But it’s hard to be more specific when we might be playing with different healer

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Like yesterday I did a few games with rsham friend (new alt from war), very rough start, but reached 2000 mmr in the end

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There could be a very long cc chain we do periodically, like gauge - shanmy stun/kidney - shammy sheep or blind

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When we are close to such a killing window i won’t over dotting the other healer

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But once we do this combo and can’t land a kill, the next 15 seconds or so can be easy double dotting.
I guess the key thing is when you double dotting you can’t use gauge

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Could be very different as well, because I go at healer a lot too

languid ravine
#

whats the current state of marksman anyone know? I've always wanted to do a mastery stacking marksman for the memes :S

tribal badger
#

its same as last season

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strong against non plate rough against plate

#

lobbies can be very slanted against or for u but u absolutely eat mages alive which is fun

cosmic thistle
#

do i just target what toptarget tells me?

wintry dew
jolly sierra
#

the addon which draws a red square around a target

cosmic thistle
#

iam don with ss its trash only 2v2 now

gleaming pawn
#

wasn't your bet with Mage to get 2400 in SS

cosmic thistle
#

overall

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no but ss sucks always a trash healer or a guy who just goes 6 wins

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i will record and u will see what the fuck i mean by this trash game

jolly sierra
#

but still far away

gleaming pawn
cosmic thistle
#

u will show u mastwe

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master

torpid fog
#

How do you CC a fucking preservation Evoker? Just me or are they just immune to everything?

wary moss
#

I might be wrong about the name but during glide they are cc immune

cosmic thistle
#

WHY DOES EVERY0ONE USE EVAISON SO EARLY`?

last jasper
last jasper
waxen meteor
#

They do have 30 seconds cc block for 3 times

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If they pre cast it it’s easy

#

You triple sap to consume them

last jasper
#

Wow, 10.2.5 is in 2 weeks

waxen meteor
#

What's the major thing in 10.2.5

languid ravine
#

How it feels coming back after a two months break on a spec you have played for 8 hours

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Niederlage = Defeat btw OMEGAKEKW

jolly bear
#

yo when did the meta shift for sub to go tea sepsis dark brew lmao

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how tf do I even play that

cosmic thistle
#

anyone who want to play 2v2

slim violet
#

is there an easy way to know when someone is on stun/disorient/other cc dr

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i dont really know all the icons for cc from the other classes, so although there's a big icon that shows up i generally dont have a good indicator

waxen meteor
#

Play other specs wowhead

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I am not sure if there are other add on you can customize the icons to character class ones

gleaming pawn
#

Battleground Enemies tracks DR, and the arena addons track it as well. So you should be covered except for the outside world

waxen meteor
cosmic thistle
#

think i understand how too play now won 6 rounds

pale storm
slim violet
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That's really helpful, thank you

cosmic thistle
#

finally 1600 rating

wintry dew
cosmic thistle
#

Real and it was simple asf too get it

wintry dew
#

The simple part is debatable

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How many rounds have you played? xD

cosmic thistle
#

this week 207

steel scarab
#

Holy shit lol

cosmic thistle
#

1257 this season

wintry dew
#

i ran 60 TOTAL on my rogue and got to 1800, (never pvped again on the rogue)

steel scarab
#

Holy cow guys

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Fiance and I have played 119 in 2v2 all season so far

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Then again I'm sure solo shuffle is harder than 2v2

cosmic thistle
#

@wintry dew i just always look so atleast 2 people have bleeds on them and its just a win

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if nobdy dies i just kill healer

wintry dew
#

Works on lower ratings

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the higher you go

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the less dumb people are USUALLY

cosmic thistle
#

idk played some 2v2 people in 1700 dosent seem so much better

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i need to learn too use my feint more i barely use it. and juste the cc for reasons

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@wintry dew Do rogue often run away too get too stealth again?

wintry dew
#

if possible yes

cosmic thistle
#

well i barerly doo that think i will start doing it

#

only 600 elo more and the gold is mine!!

#

the servers id down why?

last jasper
#

lmao, managed to get insta pop before 14min reset and 5\1

wintry dew
#

Like a boss

cosmic thistle
#

WHY is servers down?

last jasper
#

Idk, what lobby was that. All except war were eating 200k evis. (no bargain tho)

hybrid rapids
#

How much mastery do you have?

last jasper
#

103 in arena

cosmic thistle
cosmic thistle
#

@wintry dew 1700 rating now

lucid citrus
#

in 2's?

cosmic thistle
#

ss

lucid citrus
#

good good

cosmic thistle
#

@lucid citrus U think i have been doing good for this short time of wow or does everyonre reach 1700 this fast?

lucid citrus
#

I think your next goal should be 1800, what is your mmr right now?

cosmic thistle
#

Ouff idk actually, in bed right now but around 1700 i think

mortal jay
#

reminder: i'm stupid, old, and bad. If i can hit 1800 anyone can 🙂 keep grinding 🙂

wintry dew
#

A normal person would have done around 1/3 of that in the same time span

gleaming pawn
#

1200+ rounds is astronomical, but as long as he’s improving. Next season will be a good test for him

wintry dew
#

Yeah improving is good obviously, I just think he's trying too hard to prove he's better than the average pvp Andy when learning

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When it doesn't matter if he's better or not, he should focus on learning for himself xD

last jasper
#

why blizzard. Excatly in that moment wheere I have 2h window

#

I'm learning sub since sl. It remains the lowest spec for me. Despite, I tried a few new (like mage) this expac.

wintry dew
#

How's it going?

hardy prairie
#

Hey, returning player, haven't played with the new sub talents yet (I missed DF season 2), can someone give me a quick rundown or some sort of a guide for sub in 10.2 please?

languid ravine
last jasper
wintry dew
#

That's what it is all about, self improvement

wintry dew
waxen coyote
#

I always hear that rogues are one of the hardest classes in wow so I wonder how much easier it is to play dk/warrior/dh

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As sub rogue i was 1,8 rbgs and 1,7 arenas but i was playing only rogue since mop

last jasper
#

Most likely 2k. Definitely with dh

wintry dew
last jasper
#

Pretty much this. I just pve until high damp.

waxen coyote
#

Thanks, maybe i will try unholy dk

jolly sierra
#

im bad af with warrior and im still hardstuck at 1550 w it

languid ravine
#

works every time kekdog

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and there is absolutely nothing that can go wrong here

wintry dew
#

No colossus?!

nova viper
#

grind mindset and other that shit, you know

languid ravine
#

to find an answer to that deep question you have to active your minds eye and ask yourself "does colossus add to the comedic effect of this scene? or does not pressing colossusmash in fact increase the lulz?"

nova viper
#

give me 50$ for this couching session

#

give back BG vs bots i need wear my alts boohoo

languid ravine
#

just queue blitz, people these days at least at low mmr are indistinguishable from bots

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or maybe they are very convincing bots idk

nova viper
#

queue blitz is 10 min

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when this bot mod is like 30 sec

languid ravine
#

just queue on 16 different chars, one game every 30 sec

#

easy

#

warrior math

surreal barn
#

Those shaman bots are gods

#

Some are so good lol

jolly sierra
#

bots

#

wtf

last jasper
#

106% mastery. yey

wintry dew
surreal barn
#

Beep boop affirmative.

surreal barn
#

sometimes you just gonna lose no matter how many die by your hand

last jasper
#

wtf, I'm being whispered 3d time today from 0\6 blaming me 😄

jaunty pollen
#

4 Set or daggers first? (Sub)

last jasper
#

Mh first

jaunty pollen
#

Alright. I'm 1 piece off of 4 set

wintry dew
#

Aren't there 4 charges of the catalyst already?

broken otter
#

Yeah, there are.

wintry dew
#

@jaunty pollen

#

You know what the catalyst is?

jaunty pollen
#

Yeah I'm new to Sub haven't got enough conq to buy my last piece

wintry dew
#

You could in theory get a wpvp upgraded piece

broken otter
#

That's what I did

wintry dew
#

I see

jaunty pollen
#

Okay thanks

last jasper
#

I would take oh from wpvp and mh conq.

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To min max our small burst window as much as possible

broken otter
#

I went with conquest MH and WPvP OH

last jasper
jaunty pollen
#

Perfect I'll do the same

cosmic thistle
#

What ring should i craft for sin?

broken otter
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Vers/Mastery, I'd think (Harmonious)

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Ringbound Hourglass and Signet of Titanic Insight are the same stat-wise

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but you can craft 1 of each and wear both, instead of them being unique equipped

broken otter
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The crafted rings have less vers and more offstat(mastery) than the PvP ones

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Also double check on the mastery, before you craft it. I'm not much of an authority on Rogue just parroting what I've seen

cosmic thistle
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Whar should u get?

wintry dew
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Trinket / pants need to be upgraded

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Maybe the pants are the biggest upgrade stat wise?

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Yours are still blue right? (I'm on mobile)

cosmic thistle
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I have the lucid but i saw that shadenox played with it

wintry dew
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Probably the upgraded version

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Not the blue one I'd say

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The item isn't all that matters, pvp Ilvl is way more important I'd say

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And 476(?) Is way lower than 489

cosmic thistle
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He plays ir blue

wintry dew
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Aight

cosmic thistle
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I will prob get the ring

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How can people sat 1200 games is much its not that much

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Only played wow for 200 hours

wintry dew
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When people have life's outside of the game

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1200 games is too much

cosmic thistle
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Will try getting glad today

wintry dew
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Go go my man good luck

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🤞

cosmic thistle
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If y played like i did it will be ez. Won 6 rounds all time idk how i got so good

surreal barn
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Is there an addon that shows you your stats in pvp combat

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Without having to hit the dummy

last jasper
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But prob still missing around 100main stat. Cuz it’s a heavy items. Chest and legs

cosmic thistle
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How

jolly sierra
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way too overconfident

cosmic thistle
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This is the way

last jasper
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until u met ppl who can press more than 2 buttons

sharp sierra
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guys is outlaw still good for shuffle or?

shadow creek
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You may have some struggles with plate-wearing classes, but other than that it’s good

last jasper
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@wintry dew nah, it didn't help. Same rollercoaster 😄

last jasper
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My improvements 😂

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0 cc lobby.

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Lock or free casting or trained. High damp someone dies

wintry dew
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xDDDD

languid ravine
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How shit is sporecloak now? Was it a good idea to nerf it to the ground while everything deals a gazillion times more damage now? or is it fine

last jasper
last jasper
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just feel like its better to log in into my dh and just pve ppl down drinking beer

last jasper
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-110cr

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i dont understand this game anymore

cosmic thistle
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does queing in higer elo take more time

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sitting 30 min lobbies now

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and they leave:(

jolly sierra
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some days are good

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some days like shit

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always happens

surreal barn
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Sometimes shit weeks

cosmic thistle
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1 hour queue now fuck me

last jasper
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just might get week or two off from this shit, cuz thats insane

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btw, how wars doing just absurd dam with bladestorm even with feint?

jolly bear
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I dont get how to play DB + Sepsis can someone explain lmao

cosmic thistle
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getting 30+ elo from 4 wins is pain

last jasper
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u just use sepsis as ss once thats all

cosmic thistle
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is 30 elo form 4 wins decent?

pale storm
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Pretty normal I would say

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Depends on what your mmr was, whether you are coming off a win streak or lose streak etc

last jasper
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nice. shuffle bugged

jolly bear
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this look about right for one dance + blades?

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with sepsis

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also why is this better than The Rotten + Perf Veins + Goremaws

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genuinely asking cuz idk anything lmao

worthy crag
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blades will top any goremaw burst because full cp evis every other gcd is huge

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which is why its also a longer cd

waxen meteor
jolly bear
last jasper
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jeez, I found totally useless vs mage with blink stun

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somehow

jolly bear
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so when I open, since I got Subterfuge am I pressing Blades right as I cheap for max CP right out of stealth and then pressing SD+symbols and continuing as normal?

cosmic thistle
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only ranged i stand 0 chance

waxen meteor
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Then I think first go is better with kidney since you get to sap healer most likely

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I think it’s in general easier to sap and ss + dance, with first dance you have 7 cp already

jolly bear
cosmic thistle
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Back on 1600 rating waow

waxen meteor
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Then you enable blade

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Dance you can macro with symbol anyway

jolly bear
waxen meteor
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Yeah

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Might side cs if needed

jolly bear
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oh wait that second ss should be sepsis huh

waxen meteor
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You can do sepsis and ST

jolly bear
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well it does get buffed by dark brew

waxen meteor
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I think most don’t use all CDs at open

jolly bear
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if you use blades you're going for a kill so shouldnt you send sepsis

waxen meteor
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But regardless with ss and kidney, you can do another ss + evis and one sepsis/bite/ss and ST and then DR cs

jolly bear
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oh so cs > evis > cs > evis