pvp

[waxen meteor]

A Good warrior is really powerful tbh

That's probably why there are also 10 times dumb ones

[lone yarrow]

Thank you!

[stoic spruce]

You mean I'm not supposed to leap charge into LoS

?

[waxen meteor]

No, keep leaping

there's a feral kicked me down from mount and tried to kill me

and got killed...

He must think he is super good

[worthy crag]

press W out the gate, leap 40 max, charge 30 yards, bladestorm around the corner in battle stance

pop rally and parry at 8% and die

"heals?? lmao"

[waxen meteor]

had two quite good lobbies today at 1900-2000 MMR with ret alt

[spring bough]

just took this GSW HH no CTO build into a skirmish and all i gotta say is LOL

feels real good even without CTO and no take your cut either

might rock this the rest of the night lol

my teammate ret did 121k and i killed the rogue and paladin we were facing lol

[swift adder]

Has anyone had success at high rating with outlaw

[spring bough]

its good but not as many playing is as sin and sub

looks like sin and sub have +40 people at rival in solo shuff and outlaw only around 20 or so lol

[swift adder]

I don't really mind, as long as it's playable

I'm just not sure about gear and stuff

[spring bough]

it is very playable just gotta get used to only using BTE when subterfuge or dance is active

crit / vers and probably a lil haste

[swift adder]

Right so you essentially play the same build

as pve

[spring bough]

pretty much except pick up stam

so same as pve but drop swift for stam

[swift adder]

I pick up stam in pve

[spring bough]

im trying it without CTO right now for GSW

and cant really notice a RTB difference lol

[spring bough]

so last two rounds of my lobby. cleaved on disc priest. just was on priest whole game got both rounds LOL

[fathom dew]

is shadow strike bugged

its not puttin me behind target

[spring bough]

it is

[fathom dew]

sick game

[hollow crown]

for assa rogue, does IC work correctly? I've been trying to scheme with it in bgs hitting the groups, and it doesnt seem to apply to anyone nearby. unless the range for the additional applications is super short

[surreal barn]

It’s not that far

[hollow crown]

okay

[surreal barn]

It’s melee range not acrobatic strike range

[proven field]

Yeah I think 5 yards only

Gotta play it like chill streak basically

[waxen meteor]

yeah been reported and known

[fervent cobalt]

It's the most annoying shit right now.

[fathom dew]

maybe itll be fixed in a couple weeks 🙂

[fervent cobalt]

God I hope not

[fathom dew]

sin is calling my name

the two-tap sectec goremaws is juicy tho so we keep runnin it

[waxen meteor]

Reaching 5000 vault cap, then stopped this week of sub/dh/ret/demo lock, end points are 1700/1800/1700/1600 ish.

i think this is my tier list

[fathom dew]

dh is nutty

[waxen meteor]

DH tier set is also great

[worthy crag]

need..1800..for..elite..set..

healing is almost always 3:3

[wise breach]

Did you guys know about this thing? https://www.wowhead.com/item=210494/incandescent-essence

It's earned from a weeks-long raid quest

Wonder if it works in PvP...

[spring bough]

solo can be so frustrating..... me and lock teeing off on a windwalker and outta nowhere resto druid starts cycloning him.....

when we had coil and stun and monk had no defensives lol

[proven field]

Clone legit most frustrating thing ever

[spring bough]

then we lose lmao

then druid calls us dumb

like what bro

[wary spire]

If it does and ain't nerfed to hell - it probably will be.

Current blizz philosophy on pve stuff in pvp is "it's allowed but fun sized".

[glad zinc]

would you guys wear a raid finder piece for 2 set and the rest pvp?

[waxen meteor]

I would not

Our two tier doesn’t seem to be THAT good

[surreal barn]

That enchant is supposedly really nerfed in PvP

We were running it on the ptr and it was dealing some insane damage

[fading blade]

deadly poison or wound?

[waxen meteor]

Sin deadly for most

[worthy crag]

400 rounds of solo

to hit 1800 on disc

[fathom dew]

thank you for your service

[vocal surge]

@jolly bear @steel skiff yall on rn?

[steel skiff]

Yep, was tabbed out

[vocal surge]

ingame name-server?

says cannot find player

[steel skiff]

huh, odd

[vocal surge]

You're horde side ye?

[steel skiff]

yep

[vocal surge]

could be that

lemme swap to a horde character

[steel skiff]

appreciate it man

[vocal surge]

yw

you're on whale rn ye?

[steel skiff]

yep

[vestal ridge]

Any tips for new players?

[wintry dew]

For what?

[jolly bear]

not yet I’m at a hockey game for my bday

[steel skiff]

Happy birthday man 🎂

@vocal surge I'm on my rogue if you're still around

[vocal surge]

I messaged you in game and happy birthday Tesota

[steel skiff]

Says you’re offline when I /w

[sharp stone]

zz 14 pnts away from full new elite set tmog

[jolly sierra]

oof y are fast

[sharp pumice]

that's why he's high ranked, finishing fast

🥜

[proven field]

queued as outlaw thinking I was assa and left all my mastery gear on

I absolutely obliterated people

we got rocked (blitz) but I never felt starved and people were just dying relentlessly

[jolly sierra]

i know that guy peruanoal

is a fkn griefer in my server

glad u gave him a lesson

[sharp pumice]

how the fuck did you absolutely wreck people and still lose

[sharp stone]

ngl he kind of gave me a feeling that his parents are siblings

typing nonsence after every round that he died

plate class players man..

[proven field]

It was an epic failure - we were up 1350-900 and then some reason collapsed to market and they capped four and it ticks 500 mph and boom

I think most people are still getting used to how the nodes work in blitz

If you’re not careful you can get blasted back to wueue in like two minutes

[open wedge]

We need haste or mastery on Assassination?

[sharp stone]

yo

am i gonna starve out of energy using new tier set on sub

since dance doesnt give energy anymore without s2 2 piece

[spring bough]

outlaw >>>>>>>>>> any mage

its not even a chance they have lol

just 6-0 a frost and a fire

[gleaming pawn]

yeah outlaw bent most mages over last season too, they just can't handle the mobility and damage output

[spring bough]

theyd ice block swap for a sec go back and dead

2 of the rounds were so fast they couldnt even block

i think i got off 5-6 crack shots in a row on one and it was 100 to 0

[rustic raptor]

the 1600 3/3 struggle is real

[spring bough]

i had two 1-5s today lost over 100 rating and somehow got it back lol

[rustic raptor]

shuffle is something else

[spring bough]

i had resto druids cycloning dps we were on

like no other earlier lol

[rustic raptor]

i havent tried the greenskin build out

might have to give it a shot

[spring bough]

getting 100k normal pistols when it procs lol

for one of the 3 hits lol

so prob like 150k in total or maybe a lil more

[rustic raptor]

yeah thats a lot of extra damage

[spring bough]

dont even notice i dont have CTO

feel like with 4 set wont even need CTO for rateds

[exotic dove]

Games are Rough playing Assa not because of damage but our Survivability. Anyone else notice this in 3s? The same games went much better in 3s just playing Sub two healers I played with this week have a hard time keeping me up as Assa.

[stoic spruce]

night and day for me

[proven field]

Yes if you dont kill quick you feel a bit naked as assa

[exotic dove]

I was kind of frustrated writing that too every game had a Dh in it

[worthy crag]

where is blessing of spellwarding on the pally skill tree?

[stoic spruce]

yeah CtO is night and day

[stoic spruce]

killed through cheat death again

[stable urchin]

Since when is cheat death better than feint?

I remember back when i played rogue cheat death was considered noob and troll pick

And feint was considered broken

[stoic spruce]

I never said it was better

Feint is better but it's not broken

Was this a "I like waffles." "So you hate pancakes?" interaction or did you really just not know?

[rotund fulcrum]

A lot of specs damage profiles do aoe naturally so another thing to consider is that picking cheat death doesn’t make feint useless

[stoic spruce]

Yes that is important to note

[stable urchin]

I see most people taking cheat death tho thats why im asking

[stoic spruce]

Really? I haven't noticed

Weird

[sharp sierra]

is it better for assa to go arterial precision or dragon tempered blades or preference?

[mystic shoal]

what greenskin build

[rustic raptor]

Some people are opting to drop Count the Odds for Greenskin's Wickers

[mystic shoal]

Like this?

I'm missing Fatal Flourish and I feel like I'm getting griefed energy wise during my goes

I wonder if dropping Riposte is the play

Yeah this is prolly the cooker

[jolly sierra]

pvp talents

[sharp sierra]

Noob question but why do people say vanish as offensive cd with shadow dance for outlaw?

[frank citrus]

legit question

where do i as a mage find decent rogue players ? XD

[rotund fulcrum]

Outlaws damage comes from ace procs with crackshot so you want to use vanish or dance to maximize those

[sharp sierra]

Togwther at same time?

[rotund fulcrum]

No one or the other

[rustic raptor]

Yeah thats the one. Im still using CTO over wickers but i think its a preference thing

[twin burrow]

Another reason is damage is so high, that in order to keep that momentum you can't waste globals on feint. And since damage is high you get more value out of cheat death since your more likely to proc. Back when feint was broken it was tuned a bit better but overall the meta was slower so you got big value out of feint uptime.

You can prolly still die with feint up, whereas a cheeky cheat might.give you that global for a vanish or whatever defensive you need

[spring bough]

That’s what I’ve been using. I would drop riptose for fatal flourish though

I also started using pistol during crack windows instead of ambush as a CP builder especially when FTH is up

Cause if it crits you’ll get a combined 150k pistol ontop of a BTE crackshot. Does some big damage

[spring bough]

I’ve been thinking of dropping GSW later and trying KS for a Que and see how it does

[rustic raptor]

every lobby above 1600 is dh dk lol

[spring bough]

Yeah we almost got 10 elite DHs out there. Every other class lucky if they have atleast one lmao

DH nerfs most definitely coming

[mystic shoal]

that's actrually insane

I don't have riposte though. I want Fatal Flaw for the regen but don't know how the fuck to get it

need to nerf warlock tbh

warlock is insane rn

[sharp sierra]

guys can you recommend any guide for someone completely new to outlaw? like i dont even understand rotation and burst

[lusty meteor]

For sub are we dual daggers or stat stick in off hand? I’ve seen both.

[spring bough]

Take a look at the outlaw faq for the rotation for more in depth. But it’s pretty much pop adrenaline, RTB, snd, open with cheap get blade flurry up and start pumping full cp BTE into ambush into BTE until subterfuge wears off. Vanish keep the rotation going. Probably dance after that keep doing the rotation and if your night elf meld and keep doing the rotation and by then vanish probably off CD so rinse repeat

Most likely never want to BTE out of dance or subterfuge unless dance or vanish are more than 45 seconds off CD

There a bunch of reroll rules too for RTB but with so much going on in solo I usually refresh every time RTB is up especially cause I’m running take your cut for the 15% haste buff

[sharp sierra]

thank you sir that already helps a lot

[spring bough]

No problem. If you’re an addon person. Try out Hekili. Calculates best possible ability to use next for max dps

Will def help you get the rotation down at the start

[waxen meteor]

Shoot

Why are we doing too good at raid

[rustic raptor]

RIP

[thorn pond]

I think both are pretty much equal. With double daggers you’ll get more shadow technique stacks. So it’s up to you if you want to fish for more shadowtechnique stacks or if you prefer a bit more stats

[jolly sierra]

FUCKING PVE ANDYS ALWAYS WE GOT THEIR CRAP WHEN THEY GET A NERF

god dammit

[waxen meteor]

yeah and sin seems to be quite a bit ahead ha

[spring bough]

Sin and sub on the nerf radar after seeing that LOL

Outlaw looks safe whew 😅

[sharp sierra]

holy f do ppl actually use this in arena

feels like cheating

[spring bough]

What does using Hekili? Lol

It’s pretty good doesn’t always get the next move right but it’ll help

[sharp sierra]

what does the 7th combo point do for kidney shot?

[spring bough]

You can also set it to highlight your action bar so you can see what to hit too

Nothing. 5 cp is max for Kidney

[sharp sierra]

i c

[spring bough]

Just gives more cdr if used at 7

[jolly sierra]

a bit? literal is topping KEK

[sharp sierra]

is roll the bones capped at 2 buffs now? there was a time when you could get all right

[spring bough]

Yall sin looking like unholy DK was on that chart all of season two

[sharp sierra]

or is that just super rare

[spring bough]

No RTB can be anywhere from 1-5 and you can get the sixth with cto procs

If you pop adrenaline before RTB it always gives a minimum of two

[sharp sierra]

that i read

but i havent seen more than 2 so far

[spring bough]

It’s just rng

If you rock cto you will usually get up to 5-6 with stealth windows

[sharp sierra]

sorry but whats cto

ah count the odds

i dont have that specced atm

[spring bough]

I keep going back and forth with that and greenskin

With four set might not need CTO for arena

[maiden gull]

i debating if KS or GSW rn

for shuffle

[spring bough]

Second I get home I’m hitting up a Que with KS

[wintry dew]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/HnDf4rznlk

[spring bough]

See a couple over 2100 using it

Might be worth in solo

[wintry dew]

@spring bough

Stop making people mad at reddit

You just pressing W mate

[spring bough]

Oh boy that might actually be me LOL

[wintry dew]

That would be fucking hilarious xD

[vocal surge]

People crying about Outlaw having 2 Shadowstep charges

these redditors are delusional

also bet they lost to Outlaw

because they all stood clumped

letting Outlaw cleave freely

[spring bough]

Nothing beats my two mage lobby I 6-0d last night. The disc priest was crying in my whispers how mages got ice block removed

[vocal surge]

XD

[spring bough]

I was like bro they didn’t remove ice block it just didn’t matter they pressed it off the first rip then died on the second lol

This is from one of the rounds in that lobby last night. Cast BTE 3 times and then the round was over

[vocal surge]

that was on a mage ye?

[spring bough]

Yeah lol

[vocal surge]

[spring bough]

I don’t think he even ice blocked that round it happened so fast

[languid swan]

anyone got a SS, ambush, BTE macro for pvp?

[spring bough]

#outlaw message

[vocal surge]

2 extremely close matches

talking

1 hit away from winning

slipped out of my hands

went 3-3

the tease

[stoic spruce]

I did a dungeon as outlaw

Bro

If I could have the AR uptime in arenas like I do in dungeons, it's over for all them motherfuckers.

[spring bough]

Yeah it would be unreal if we could avoid all the CC lol

[vocal surge]

Yep

[spring bough]

Noticed yesterday every time I popped dance or vanish it was instant fear or stun on me or cyclone

They are catching on lol

[vocal surge]

its not hard to counter Outlaw burst

people jsut dont press buttons or dont want to know when we burst

[sharp sierra]

is it ultra important to play offhand dagger? or can i use 2x sword

[stoic spruce]

I love how people stun my KS as if that's where my damage comes from.

Thanks for taking the bait retarf. Now you will lose.

[sharp pumice]

Almost as if it's in... ||stealth||

[spring bough]

Either works. Depends on what stats you wanna run. Dagger is crit / vers or you could go haste / vers or mast / vers with a slower wep

[sharp pumice]

Used to be good enough that I'd bait stuff like that

Not really the case anymore as we've gained 38 buttons and I've lost a few million brain cells

[spring bough]

I’d save my trinket for the clone and then boom hit with a stun and there goes that subterfuge window lol

[scarlet wharf]

engineer goggles still worth? nfi how to build around them

[spring bough]

How is KS doing in solo?

[split marsh]

what stats is outlaw using now for PvP?

[stoic spruce]

its honestly not as bad as people claim it to be

[rustic raptor]

i was thinking about using it too, i feel like it can be really good for those clutch kills when the opponent is low and you just barely lose the round. Anyone who tests lemme know how it goes

[vocal surge]

+6 rating from a leaver pog

Back to grinding Southsea Pirates for 2 years

[jolly sierra]

dat troll

[vocal surge]

Got 2 bars

while waiting for solo shuffle

for Gadgetzan

[languid swan]

is there a way i can macro if in stealth/subter/dance then it prios BTE? saw it on a stream

[hard compass]

Had a sub rogue disc pr mirror match earlier in an absolute stalemate. Are we just shit outta luck fighting priests right now?

[vocal surge]

tripled my progress already w. The Southsea's grind

xD

wtf is druid

rip

1-5

Literally cant compete vs balance / havoc / Unholy

Everyone is easily over 120k DPS XD

also everytime druid was on my team

throws

literally doesn't press CDs to prevent the burst of DK Havoc

[sharp sierra]

is nelf a must have as outlaw for the subterfuge window?

[quaint cedar]

Probably would be yeah, but idc I play what I want lol

[sharp pumice]

2 options, I do both in solo, 1st school of thought is like PVE, whenever you're missing 100 energy and you're able to hit your target

other use is for the extra mastery on say, flagellation stacked finishers

[quaint cedar]

I think a lot of people are just used to ignoring the outlaw rogue because we've been dogshit this entire expansion. And now they are getting butthurt that they have to actually respect our damage

Just like every other dps

[vocal surge]

Yeah

and funny thing is

we're not as overtuned as DH, DK, or Balance Druid

[quaint cedar]

Yeah for sure

DH does insane damage

[vocal surge]

Its brain dead insane damage

[quaint cedar]

And they do all that damage as aoe so in shuffle it gets really nuts

[vocal surge]

Yeee

[quaint cedar]

I tried healing a few shuffles on my priest. Was so miserable. DH every lobby and they are just cleaving the whole team down the entire game

[vocal surge]

rn hardstuck 1700s 1800s pain

[quaint cedar]

I haven't even tried shuffle yet

Been grinding 2s

Just got 1800

[vocal surge]

I had a game (above)

Unholy DK, Havoc DH, Boomie

each round lasts 20 - 30s

[quaint cedar]

That's a nightmare for outlaw

[vocal surge]

and I ended with a 1-5 and losing all my progress getting past the 1800

I was 6 rating off getting past 1800 again

[quaint cedar]

oh man that sucks

That's why my patience for shuffle as outlaw is very limited lol

We get so fucked by comps

[vocal surge]

Yeah

[quaint cedar]

Anything that can CC us a ton and just do massive aoe damage is a pain for us

[vocal surge]

The DC 2 days ago really fucked me

[quaint cedar]

oh lost 150 huh?

That blows

[vocal surge]

no

lost 50

internet was down for 5hrs

[quaint cedar]

that's something really frustrating about shuffle too

if you drop rating for any reason it can take so long to get it back

between queues and just bad luck with lobby comps

[vocal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/struggle-sisyphus-gif-4952086791107433131

One must imagine Outlaw happy

[spring bough]

not sure about that one but if you find it id love to try it out lol

[spring bough]

good thoughts only today will take us to that elite rating XD

[vocal surge]

Yeah

[sharp sierra]

guys how do i get the item to upgrade a craft item to pvp ilvl? i got it on my shaman but my rogue doesnt have it

[spring bough]

Just need to win a bg and its in the strongbox for the quest

[tribal badger]

alright got some fast queues up to 1900 but now queus r back to 45m

time to get an alts mog unlocked

wonder who i should do first this season

[waxen meteor]

Win a skirmish

[wary spire]

Aaand only a few hours of frustration I've realised I was wearing quest greens on like half of my gear.

jfc

[spring bough]

avg wait time is 21 min for me right now......

[tribal badger]

I was in for 50m zzzz

[spring bough]

so im testing out KS on the pvp dummy

one cast 345k

is that real or am i seeing things

[frank citrus]

bit hard to see when there are like 5 pixels :p

[tribal badger]

Idk I my average cast in arena was like 140k I'm pretty much just using it vs roots

[spring bough]

idk how to make the screenshot better RIP lol

[tribal badger]

But armor maybe

[spring bough]

second go it did 284k to the dummy

and thats without take your cut too lol

just swift slasher

[tribal badger]

Well it's damage doesn't acale with haste at all

It just takes less time to cast

I wish it's damage scaled with haste

Would be way better

[spring bough]

more haste less time to get CCd during it lol

its like 2.0 flat with all the haste procs from stealth and RTB

got another 310k with it lmao

[meager echo]

hey guys how did top rogues get 2 tier pieces and conquest weapon? i know that u get tier for 1600 but i don't have enough conq for both weapon and another conquest piece

[spring bough]

world pvp item. get the epic one with trophy, convert to tier. spend conq on weapon and 1600 tier from achieve

[meager echo]

oh damn u can convert items from bloody tokens into tier?

[jolly sierra]

O O F

[unkempt vine]

It will be 3 ilvls lower, but yes.

[sharp sierra]

still didnt get it ...

[waxen meteor]

open the chest from win, should give you a mission

[sharp sierra]

didnt give me a chest lol

[waxen meteor]

Then you didn’t win

[sharp sierra]

i did

[waxen meteor]

Or you had already got it

[proven field]

They look fine to me; I think disc caches crap versions for low connections and upgrades over time

[sharp sierra]

i just dont have the items

100% bugged

i got it on my sham on first pvp activity

[waxen meteor]

Sure? It looks the same as s2 thing

[sharp sierra]

i know what it looks like

[proven field]

You definitely have it

[sharp sierra]

i definitely do not

my inventory is very empty

[proven field]

Do you already have trophies

[sharp sierra]

of strife?

yes

[proven field]

Of conquest

[sharp sierra]

thats what i m asking about

that i should have them but dont

im gonna try bg win ...

ok you were all right

im confirmed dumb

[proven field]

https://tenor.com/view/its-ok-evan-morrow-nick-gaines-the-mighty-ducks-game-changers-dont-worry-about-it-gif-22600284

[languid moss]

Is rogue a bit bugged atm? It seems like something is breaking me out of stealth. My own auto attacks from 1000 yards away

[wintry dew]

shadowstrike?

its bugged

[thorn pond]

Yeah there some bugs at the moment

[languid moss]

Ye I know, but it honestlyu seems like my auto

I'm not pressing anything

And breaks stealth, with shadowstrike and rupture on the target

[wintry dew]

are you, for some reason, using sarka cloak?

[languid moss]

No

[thorn pond]

I too have this bug

It’s known, but let’s hope it’s fixed soon

[languid moss]

Ye

Ye just tested in a dual, SB and rupture breaks stealth

[proven field]

Are you undead

Or wearing last season tier

[languid moss]

No, dwarf and only new honor pvp gear

[halcyon timber]

Its not a bug , its replicating the damage as you are striking again if you watch closely

[proven field]

Did you hit a fisherman with your car and then lie about it with your friends

[halcyon timber]

Unless developers make note, its intended

Same w replicating shadows, if it ticks - it will delay stealth

[wary spire]

Got absolutely destroyed on assa today. Well it is what it is.

[halcyon timber]

So you have to mash stealth like heck

[languid moss]

Aaah I see, thanks!

[halcyon timber]

No sweat man, stinks but yeah have to be careful with it

[languid moss]

So dont rupture and SB if you want to quick vanish again basically

[halcyon timber]

Yes or cancel sb if needed

If you’re absolutely sure you need to run, it isn’t cool but that’s one way to live if needed

[languid moss]

Ye, makes sense. Thanks for all the info. Long time since i've pvp'd

Sub with all the resets is super fun, but a bit hard lol

[halcyon timber]

Its a difficult specialization. We have a lot of tools much like our other rogue counterparts do. All rogues are in a good spot but you definitely have to think a lot as subtlety.

[marble oasis]

really loving this shadowstrike bug

[languid moss]

Oh ye that is something else

[halcyon timber]

Yep stinks but it will get fixed. Im more annoyed with shadowed finishers currently but nothing we can do about it man

[languid moss]

Can't get out of the habit of using it as a step so I just shadowstrike and start spamming my keys on nothing

[fervent cobalt]

B R O shadow finshers doesnt work?!

I knew I was fking tripping

[halcyon timber]

Correct

Hasnt worked in a few days.

Recuperate seems to be mostly working again.

[languid moss]

What is shadow finisher?

[fervent cobalt]

oh so it did work at one point?

[halcyon timber]

Eviscerate and black powder deal 30% damage as shadow

[fervent cobalt]

I thought details was broke

[halcyon timber]

It didn’t work work for a little

[languid moss]

Oh ye that one

[waxen meteor]

[sturdy dune]

sbs or sep for pvp?

or neither

[jolly sierra]

going w ret, fill another one and i will go ww

god forgive my poor monk

[sharp pumice]

so is sub still borked?

[jolly sierra]

1-6 in my first SS

w the rog

dh-warr-ret

the drood blamed me for dying because i didnt cced

OFC I WONT IF U ARE FUCKING MESSING MY DRS REEEEEEEEEE

[wary spire]

Today was full of zug. It was horrible.

[jolly sierra]

ye lol

i fkn hate dumbasses

dude if u are just spamming stuns on the healer alongside cyclones ofc i wont cc him in time

just STFU

and the warr w the dh spamming stuns too

[wary spire]

Ye that checks out lol

[jolly sierra]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[jolly sierra]

see? this guy is not mad

290k kingsbane

O O F

4-x

i knew was the fkn lobby

5-x

5-1

[foggy horizon]

anyone have the assas talents?

[languid swan]

anyone got a BTE>ambush>SS macro?

!ambush

[sharp sierra]

Is the 2 piece for assassin good?

[jolly sierra]

yes

[jolly sierra]

ww monk is awful

in this patch

endures a shit

even less than assa rog

[halcyon timber]

Monks have evasion pretty much in the new patch on data mined talents

[jolly sierra]

yeah

ive saw that

but no yet

[halcyon timber]

They have what atm?
130% mhp karma
Dampen harm
Fort brew
Escape from reality
What else? They have a lot going for them atm

Expel harm was bumped up a lot too right?

[jolly sierra]

i got bypassed

by 2 warriors

or a warrior and a chicken

also

[halcyon timber]

Agreed, slippery jokers

[jolly sierra]

i did even less damage

than them

like half

in former season

i did equal or more

[halcyon timber]

I see some use ox kick a lot too

And jade serpent statue when they port

[jolly sierra]

the one i did 1-5

was a match w a dh

a ret

and a warr

later i had one w a mage, a warr and a ele

5-1

what a difference

dh is counter for all

rn

the dmg is fkn disgusting

[halcyon timber]

No metamorphosis no problem!

Good lord

Cleave city

Lol what a dooker

Plus mobility and backflips to immune

Kiting is a good defense for them

Immo aura cleanse is cloak

Reverse magic etc

They can get bent w their propaganda

[jolly sierra]

the thing fucked me hard

too

is than they just spammed stuns

IN EVERYTHING

[halcyon timber]

Blade dance shield isn’t a meme either

[jolly sierra]

even the healer

so the healer just called me a troll

because i didnt cc

BUT THEN

[halcyon timber]

Tell him to get a job

[jolly sierra]

got the other match

and got the big W

[peak agate]

I'm trying to play outlaw on my other rogue and I feel like I do no damage.

[halcyon timber]

Why’s that man?

[peak agate]

The hell if I know. Hoping someone here can help. Lol. The spec feels sluggish and even a bit wonky

[halcyon timber]

Yeah gotta ask the pistol lads

Dunno who’s on atm though .

[peak agate]

I'm guessing with the complaints I've been seeing, I'm sort of expecting a nerf.

I guess it depends on what they are basing it on. I know DH need some tuning regardless.

[halcyon timber]

Other classes smoke people harder with their non cc dependent tab targeting

They can get bent

Casters hit hard, no reason anyone should be nerfed to make them feel better

No one has full gear or tier

That’s solid to hear at least . About time outlaw is strong

Same time, cc the rogue

Jack rabbit minds

Yeah doesnt need to be touched

Meanwhile lava burst procs will 80-0 you for doing jack crap

Moonkin aoe’ing everyone is fine and starsurge etc wrecking

Ferals are pretty filthy too .

[sharp pumice]

plus cleave, plus stealth counter, plus.... yeah

[halcyon timber]

Yep plenty of stuff dude. Those winged blind rats can take a seat

[sharp pumice]

people often call pigeons rats with wings

do not insult pigeons by comparing them to DHs

[visual flume]

hey bros do I use feint on cd on outlaw?

[halcyon timber]

Anytime you’re about to trade in the paint , you feint - Sun tzu

[visual flume]

wise I see

makes sense tyty

[sharp pumice]

my god solo shuffle queues are hiterally litler

I just want to play the fucking game

[mystic shoal]

solo shuffle should just be 1v1

if I wanted to play with random idiots i'd queue lfg 3s

[exotic dove]

need more healers to bring the solo q time down

[atomic adder]

Tell me about it

[sharp pumice]

offer more incentive for them to queue

[sharp pumice]

that's about tied with my worst, that's awful

[peak agate]

Brb gonna log in my priest and decline solo shuffle 7 times in a row. JK. I don't play SS

[sharp pumice]

lul

[rustic raptor]

just dropped 30 points in a healer diff 3/3 lobby because the good healer opened chat mid match and died in the opener

i hate this game mode

[worthy crag]

is gladius updated?

[mystic shoal]

what are some good 2s comps with Outlaw bro

I cant keep doing this solo shuffle shit

[rotund fulcrum]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1981088374 have you seen this lol

[sharp stone]

s3 sub is just infinitely worse than s2

perma out of energy and tier set is a joke

[worthy crag]

I like to think of it more as s2 set bonus being bonkers op

[marble oasis]

i was literally about to repost this.

this is why i can't stand PVP until the end of the season but by then the hype is gone.

gg no re

[rotund fulcrum]

yeah i just did 1600 for the token day 1 and vaults but thats it

[gritty heart]

their good days will end soon

[proven kayak]

i like how sub was supposed to be the most op spec 😄

[gritty heart]

nah .. we need buff

[surreal ravine]

maybe a question of all questions... but what pvp spec to use to kill a healer ?

[thick slate]

wtf happened to sub ? its the most fucking dog spec for solo and its not even close

literally 0 dmg

goremaw hits like crap against geared ppl

[marble oasis]

i mean it's broken in multiple ways so that won't help

[thick slate]

in what ways exactly ?

having the most scripted go in the game where literally 1 cc on your dance fucks your whole damage

[worthy crag]

its still a very good spec in solo

[marble oasis]

30% damage as shadow talent not working. shadow strike not teleporting you but doing it damage at range to name a few

[worthy crag]

honestly I dont mind the DH and DKs shutting down some arms and ret representation cuz thats worse for sub

I wouldnt ever press goremaw without 4 pv stacks though

[sharp sierra]

arms is 3rd most represented no?

[worthy crag]

still relatively less than last 2 seasons

[olive light]

Guys any idea why my friendly party frames are disappearing in arena? Trying to heal and bring these q times down

[quaint cedar]

True. Nerf DH and you'll see arms and ret take its place. Ret is still doing absurd damage. I've only done 2s so far and already faced a few that did anywhere from 20-50% more damage than me the whole game while still being unkillable without a priest to purge bop and md bubble

[scarlet wharf]

man where are the guides atm, just came back to the game and have nfi what to do

[sharp sierra]

too soon

for guides apparently

[scarlet wharf]

whats the deal this season with the pros and cons of each spec?

kinda into 2v2 and blitz atm. sin feels good for it so far, just stick to that?

sub i feel i'm getting constantly wrecked during my goes, which is ironic because sin is way more telegraphed. NFI about outlaw

[thick slate]

so thats like a big part of our dmg not existing

[marble oasis]

yeh finishers are 30% weaker than they should be

even more actually as phyiscal is normally reduced

[waxen meteor]

More than 30 yeah

[waxen meteor]

I think we are overall not that useful in blitz, everybody commutes with space rockets, we steal resource but people come in 5 seconds

[keen magnet]

I'm looking for an aoe assa build for bgs, anyone has one?

[scarlet wharf]

blitz is a bit of a shitshow ngl. Essentially every team fight that breaks out everyone is immediately on the drs

[waxen meteor]

Just drop 10% bleeds dmg for aoe bleed and take tempest

[scarlet wharf]

m+ rotation lol

[keen magnet]

this is my normal build

getting tempest requieres me to drop some things

[scarlet wharf]

you cheesing kingsbane with cb?

[keen magnet]

yeah

330k hits Xd

in arena

[waxen meteor]

Wow you don’t take slice?

Think that’s a lot more needed than the poison one

[keen magnet]

ill try it out

what about the aoe

thoughts on this build for aoe?

[tender ferry]

Drop KB for Sudden Demise, drop Sepsis for Bone Spike, drop vicious venoms for something else so you have enough energy to properly use Sanguine Blades. Get Shadow dance from class tree

Enjoy the carnage

[sharp sierra]

so if i understand correctly crit is for more burst and mastery for more overall dmg with outlaw. one better than the other?

[wary spire]

I'm honestly thinking on going full vers.

Feel more squish than the last season that's for sure.

[spring bough]

so i dont think warrior is any worry for outlaw LOL

147k dps had an arms and fury and just cleaved them all day long lol

[jolly sierra]

i did like 290k in a KB yesterday in a shuffle

[spring bough]

that sounds nasty i wish KS would hit for that all the time lol

[jolly sierra]

is both using shiv and good timing

and RNG w crit lol

[olive light]

What is the standard opener for sin nowadays

[proven field]

I think rogues are crazy useful in Blitz - as assa spread dots, sit one healer and cc the other and your team wins every fight

[spring bough]

yall sin rogues are squishy huh lol

[proven field]

super

[spring bough]

just got in a lobby w one and he got deleted

paladin and warrior smoked him

[proven field]

I've found as assa my job is to open with so much dmg that it scares them into freaking out and blowing CDs early

then I reset and kill

otherwise I am dedd

[olive light]

Also is it bad to macro kingsbane and death mark together?

[proven field]

its not too bad but if you've been playing outlaw where you can facetank a lot, it's very different

sry this is to welith ^

I don't think you need to macro them together though; DM doesn't double KB

and you might want to use them separaretly

[rose wigeon]

Yes

[olive light]

Okay thank you. I really just need to figure out the sin opener now

[rose wigeon]

Get bleeds and SND up asap

[olive light]

Do I save stun dr for kidney? And open with garrote? Or should I cheap shot then garrote

[waxen meteor]

Hmm the most killable spec to enter the deep to spread dot and cc healer?

[thick slate]

any outlaw plays with greenskin ?

kinda annoying when you get a greenskin proc, you cant really tell if its greenskin or if its a quick draw proc

[tender ferry]

Playing without greenskin is kinda liberating tbh. Now you can just press pistol shot when it glows rather than always having to time it after BTE

[sharp sierra]

how much do pistol shots hit for with greenskin?

[jolly sierra]

blame the dev

[vocal surge]

104k non-crit

[vocal surge]

^

[unkempt folio]

Greenskin hits like 24k. With opportunity its like 24k + 2x 8k

[sharp sierra]

if i cant get both of them, would you guys choose 2set or main hand weapon this week for outlaw

so our set isnt that good?

ok ty

i fkd up early this week and bought dagger cause i was assass, but now i enjoy outlaw way more

[olive light]

for sub, assuming we always use symbols with goremaws, is it bad to just macro them together?

[teal imp]

can triple threat procc main gauche?

[twin burrow]

It's always bad to macro, or at least its not the best solution. Your pigeon holing the ability. What if you need that energy from symbols for duel etc

[proven field]

I dunno I'm having fun with it

[waxen meteor]

Yeah that’s totally fine

I don’t know how this mmr works now but it’s like skirmish level game now

[tribal badger]

probably but its not rlly relevant

the talent is nearly worthless

[teal imp]

ty

[vocal surge]

I lucked out

and pumped

276k DPS

He didn't get a chance to Spirit Link Totem

that's how fast the DK and Monk were dropping

[bleak tundra]

hey all how do i open with OL?

[bold drum]

is night elft really better than human for pvp ? or is it just a tad bit better

[vocal surge]

Shaman took only 33.9k Damage from Blade Flurry if you're wondering

nothing else

[tribal badger]

unholy pets tho

[vocal surge]

They make up less than 1/6 the damage

[worthy crag]

infinitely better

[stoic spruce]

Smeld is given a lot more credit it deserves

[waxen meteor]

276 is quite crazy

[vocal surge]

I hate DHs

xD

This DH literally goes hur dur

charges across the map and hyper over extends beyond the healer

and dies within 10 seconds of engagement

[sharp sierra]

like a true demon hunter

[worthy crag]

anyone know a fix for gladius trinket tracking?

[vocal surge]

oh my goodness

I can hear this priest raging so hard

[proven field]

sweet, what build u running?

[vocal surge]

The iron stomach is interchangable

if theres a caster, I go for numbing

[proven field]

full crit?

[vocal surge]

Ye

in the screenshot

I had 77% crit for abilities

[proven field]

yeah was messing with my mast set from assa and was still 45-50% crit most of the time

swapping CTO for GSW too, I do miss GSW

[vocal surge]

Aye

[proven field]

I just can't get the consistent pump with OL that I can with Assa... I can sit 100k dps+ with assa all day but outlaw I always hover around 75k

[vocal surge]

understandable

it varies from lobby to lobby for me

depending if I can cleave and if I get CC'd a lot or kited

[inner yew]

Which rogue spec is best for RMP rn?

[proven field]

im just a rogue slut, that's just what I am.. I play one blitz as assa and im like "oooo baby this feels good" but then one SS as outlaw and it's back to "arrrg me mateys"

[worthy crag]

honestly outlaw is probably best for all rogue comps including rmp

but then again outlaw is probably headed to a quick nerf

[fervent cobalt]

yo is Shadowed finishers working?

[halcyon timber]

Nope, hasn’t on players since the patch released. Works everywhere else though.

[fervent cobalt]

ooh okay jesus, I keep testing on dummies and keep tripping

[halcyon timber]

Devastation is nuts too, jokers are wrecking jokers pretty hard. 200k eternity surges, 90k disintegrate ticks, 130k fire breath ticks.

[halcyon timber]

Yeh stinks but we are waiting on a fix

[wary spire]

Man

[halcyon timber]

What’s that?

[wary spire]

Kingsbane

[halcyon timber]

Fug yeah

Should be strong, its a cd. Takes 2 ms to peel the rogue .

[wary spire]

I wish dm felt as good as kb.

[halcyon timber]

What’s funny is devastation does that with fire breath

If you add up all of the duplicated damage and all the bonuses / effectwhat does DM equate to?

Should still be pretty nice no?

[wary spire]

Sure, but it doesn't feel good

[stoic spruce]

Feel good as in to use or feel good as in morals?

[halcyon timber]

XD

Go in depth with feel good please I’m not following well on that.

[stoic spruce]

If it doesn't feel good moral wise...

One shot them hoes and leave them in the rear view mirror

[thick slate]

What rogue spec are people dominating solo shuffle with?

[stoic spruce]

Assa and Outlaw and also Sub.

[halcyon timber]

Demon hunter

[thick slate]

This isnt a rogue spec

[halcyon timber]

Based on that goofy graph

[thick slate]

You popping off on all 3?

[halcyon timber]

Yeah was joking but all 3 can do well

[stoic spruce]

Nah only outlaw but people have been performing well with all 3

[thick slate]

You playing greenskin on outlaw?

[halcyon timber]

Heard someboys were getting like 100k+ pistol shots

From ol greenskin

[stoic spruce]

I switch it up sometimes but GS is indeed good

[thick slate]

Outlaw feels so weird though, your only windows of damage is dance or vanish, otherwise you do nothing

And you need to proc in those windows

[halcyon timber]

Outlaw atm

[stoic spruce]

Yeah thats why I like greenskin because it helps with that a little.

[wary spire]

What are "morals"?

[thick slate]

I see

[halcyon timber]

Morals was the name of an old warship from the first outlaw expedition

[stoic spruce]

The thing people have that want to nerf the class they play. A.K.A cucks.

[halcyon timber]

XD

[wary spire]

I pop it and don't see the effect. Healers are removing it without issue. Nobody cares.

I want dispell protection for 2 min cd.

[halcyon timber]

Makes sense, difficult situation . Who does? Racial from dwarves + bop from paladin + dracthyr w carterize etc

Dunno how to rationalize that man other than the rogue just being able to redo it if it gets pulled off

Like providing a window to reapply or some jazz

[wary spire]

Yeah it's a "mark". You can reapply the "mark".

[halcyon timber]

Agreed

[wary spire]

Just killed a druid with net-o-matic lol

[halcyon timber]

Druid getting what he deserves - colorized 1945

[wary spire]

It's insane how badly this one sucks

Compared to good ol' netomatic

I pretty much have to sap before using it.

[proven kayak]

i just top dps in arena with dh without even trying and doing perma mistakes

how is that possible

[wary spire]

100k dps.

Consistently.

[surreal barn]

I kind of like getting a DH in my lobby

[wary spire]

You sub?

[surreal barn]

They can get killed pretty easy if they line, a lot are morons

Assa

[wary spire]

I like when they pop darkness and you run out of it they just stand there for a second, unsure. And then run out as well.

[surreal barn]

lol

Speaking of sub I do really miss the vanish CDR lol

Would be nice to have that and a little extra reach on our step

[wary spire]

At least our leeching doesn't drop on instances.

As it did before. So there's that.

[fast cargo]

got the 2.1 illusion not sure what to put it on other than the daggers from BC

[wary spire]

Gz!

The illusion this time is kinda shit tho.

Same with elite set coloration.

[worthy crag]

i swear to god the process of going from fresh cr to 1500 at the start of season is the most tedious thing ever

[wary spire]

As a pvp-er I crave that shadow the hedgehog energy.

[surreal barn]

A really good paladin with the DH has been hard for me as well

[vocal surge]

Gotta love 1v2s X)

[stoic spruce]

did they respect the 1v1?

[vocal surge]

no

Rogue got knocked out of stealth w. my blade flurry

and I brutally cleaved em down while the DH got smoked

then once DH died, I just blinded em

RP walked because of crippling poison

and yeeted their health

They tried to make the sin burst play but failed lol

[obtuse iris]

hey, can someone give me some good examples for a 3v3 comp with holy pally and rogue?

[steel scarab]

Dumb PvP question! For the Great Vault, what PvP item level is the PvP stuff you get?

I have a full set of honor gear already, I'm trying to decide how high my arena rating has to be to make the Great Vault worth it?

[tribal badger]

it tells you if u mouseover ur reward thing on the side

pvp gear this season sucks ilvl wise 🙂

[steel scarab]

So the ilev is just the pve ilev?

What increases the PvP ilev? is there any difference?

or is 476 just the cap?

[tribal badger]

pvp ilvl doesnt change

[vocal surge]

Any Outlaw rogues down for skirm queues

while waiting for SS popups

[vocal surge]

Destroyed a lobby

with 600 ping

https://tenor.com/view/im-having-a-connection-issue-gif-18822004

[steel scarab]

@drowsy oar thanks for the info!

[vocal surge]

Been experimenting w. openers

[vocal surge]

some gameplay of full crit

[tribal badger]

you were HOUNGRY for that mage food

[vocal surge]

xD

[tribal badger]

taunted by the cakes

[vocal surge]

needed them mana buns

[proven field]

what's the harlan's buff thing near the start?

[vocal surge]

harlan buff?

[halcyon timber]

Loaded dice no?

[vocal surge]

thats the AR RTB buff

[proven field]

ah gotcha

[vocal surge]

to guarantee 2 rolls

[vocal surge]

realized I never pressed RTB in this one at all lol

[halcyon timber]

Was filthy af

Those ace resets are a great thing to hear

[vocal surge]

Aye

[halcyon timber]

Well , not for them but yeh xD

[vocal surge]

and yes

the outlaws I slammed in those clips

are crit mastery users

[jolly sierra]

O O F

[thick slate]

which spec did you use and in which bracket?

Oh assa in solo shuffle : o how is it ? and what do you do when you full send on someone and a pally for example just bops your whole deathmark go

would your damage just evaporate and you end up with no pressure afterwards?

[placid cloak]

those are really cool WA! Do you mind sharing?

i'd like to edit it to make a diablo-like interface

[stable urchin]

Does anyone know how to remove the pistol proc graphic from above my character?

[placid cloak]

it was a setting in interface to edit the transparency from 0 to 100%

[stable urchin]

oh yee

Spell opacity or smth

[stable urchin]

Forgot it existed ty😆

[unkempt folio]

Hey, do u have any tips vs healer(mostly rdudu) + dh? Also healer + udk? I Play as outlaw. If i try to kill rdudu usually its roots+clone all time and goin into dh/udk makes them cleave. I Play with all healers spec

[stoic spruce]

What ui is that?

[stoic spruce]

Nastyyyyy

[vocal surge]

depends if you're on x)

[vocal surge]

Its me own weakaura that I made in S1

[placid cloak]

/invite redewolf-argent dawn

[stoic spruce]

The health and the bars on either side?

[vocal surge]

ye

[vocal surge]

you horde?

[placid cloak]

xfaction should be a thing

[vocal surge]

Says cannot find player

[stoic spruce]

My brother in christ I NEED the sauce

[stoic spruce]

Scientists say you need 3 things to survive. Food, water, and shelter. I finally found the 4th.

[vocal surge]

are you perhaps on EU?

[placid cloak]

Oh yeah i am on eu

[vocal surge]

That'd explain

I dont have a wago page for it lol

[vocal surge]

are you on is the question

[stoic spruce]

No :/

[vocal surge]

F

[stoic spruce]

I'll catch you later then.

You should have a wago page >.>

Its hawt

That mustve taken forever to make

[vocal surge]

couple hours

I reused some older WAs to make it

[placid cloak]

is it grouped in a single folder

[vocal surge]

cough cough this

[placid cloak]

or is it an amalgamation of different free floating was

[vocal surge]

I prefer organization

[placid cloak]

mine super simple

[vocal surge]

Have em all in a folder

[placid cloak]

hp changes colour based on hp/energy if i have blades going on

also this

for eva/cloak

[vocal surge]

Aye

I made my combo points change color for what is considered optimal for finishers

and energy bar also changes color if im low on energy

[placid cloak]

i really want to make a CP sound for when you haev full CP/try to build more CP after being full

with shao khan from MK saying 'FINISH HIM/HER"

[vocal surge]

XD

Its possible

[placid cloak]

it is, but getting the WA to recognize the gender of the target is hard

[vocal surge]

I also have a warning sign that changes color from invisible to yellow to red

whenever SND is starting to get low or drops off

[placid cloak]

for combat i went full minimalist

[vocal surge]

I went bigger because my old one didn't cut it for Sennarth and Kurog

because their visuals would sensory overload me mid fight

[vocal surge]

and I'd blank out and heavily lose focus on where to focus

since the old UI bars were small and of similar color to the background

[placid cloak]

was kurog in the first raid

[vocal surge]

Ye

[placid cloak]

ive only done it on NM, i wouldnt say i was sensory overloaded

maybe on hc/mythique

[vocal surge]

Mythic raider here

[wary spire]

Ay yo same!

[placid cloak]

i also made a custom wa for shields

cloaked in shadows

or monk cocoon

[wary spire]

And they called me a madman, a madman!

[placid cloak]

why do you need secret tech so big

but dance so smol

[vocal surge]

^

[hard compass]

Does anyone have a working WA for perf stacks?

[wary spire]

Dance is also a pink dot.

[placid cloak]

if it works for u it works

thats all i can say

[wary spire]

Nobody understands my genius.

[nova viper]

the best addon for enemy arena frames? Gladius, gladiusex, bg frames, sarena?

[placid cloak]

here is gex

best one is the one that works for you

no other answer tbh

[nova viper]

I'm just curious what you play. I uses Gladius because it is probably the most readable, at least for me

[placid cloak]

then use gladius, i prefer gex because i can better move things around

and show enemy CDs, so i dont need to use omnicd

i still use omnicd for tracking interrupts, but i dont have to find the screen space for enemy cds

[sharp sierra]

I want that energy bar

[placid cloak]

its a box progressbar with a custom texture

[stoic spruce]

im logging on

oh god he's offline

[cursive umbra]

i know this has been shown elsewhere and maybe even earlier here today, but WHY o god WHY has no tunings gone out? Below is representation of classes in EU Solo Shuffle 2100+

[vocal surge]

im here now

[cursive umbra]

why havent blizzard adressed this already? fcking ret vibes from 10.1.5 but at least they adressed it multiple times (even on release and 2-3 days after)

[vocal surge]

^

[cursive umbra]

ended up still being OP but they did something

[fading blade]

Cuz blizzard is lazy on weekends

[cursive umbra]

well, release wasnt this weekend

[fading blade]

Prob more tuning today or tomorrow to throw those disgusting zero iq dhs in the trash

[cursive umbra]

i hope you are right, i just would have hoped for quicker actions

[fading blade]

They prob got flamed all weekend and look into it

[cursive umbra]

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[shadow creek]

@vocal surge You may want to really consider making a wago page for your UI, I suspect a lot of people would dig it

[vocal surge]

I should

its a pain to setup a wago page

if I recall

[shadow creek]

Ah, hadn't realized

[sharp sierra]

i swear echo is going to get sub nerfed lol

anyone watching world first mythics?

all of their subs are #1 dps lol

[stoic spruce]

@jolly sierra sometimes you just gotta RAHHH yourself to sleep

[jolly sierra]

wut

what have i did now lol

[wise breach]

Man, Assa is dominating PvE dps rankings

Nerfs inc for sure

[wise breach]

Can't speak for why they're not doing PvP tuning, but they're likely waiting for the RWF to end before they do a more significant tuning pass

[jolly sierra]

yeah fuck it i hate it

at least capped 3 slots already

[waxen meteor]

What do we need to prepare to start myth

What’s like the entry level gear this season

[tribal badger]

sins strong but sin is also getting mega simped

cause its one of the best simp targets in the game

[stoic spruce]

Gotta hype yourself to sleep sometimes

[tribal badger]

id honestly be surprised if they nerf it too hard

dh is pulling wild numbers natty

[jolly sierra]

ofc

tomorrow ill work

so ill sleep earlier

lol

i would be ok

if the dev would heard us in the moment

about the low endurance from assa rog in pvp

like 1002132143 times ive called assa never needed the dmg

hope the nerf touches the aoe dmg

so i wont bother about shit in pvp

also, hate being fucking barked by the healers when im in a match w a dh

god i hate them

[tranquil saddle]

and for things to settle down once people get tier sets

[stoic spruce]

And people get geared

[wise breach]

Eh, everyone in the race has their 4pc, so they do have data on that

[stoic spruce]

We get to see who scales good and who doesn't.

[jolly sierra]

i wanna skip to wednesday so i can see which char will get tier

i didnt crafted anything yet

[waxen meteor]

I only crafted boots for all char