pvp

[jolly sierra]

rn i look like this

[waxen meteor]

lol your current look is better

[jolly sierra]

yeah but is for collection

to have at least 1 elite

[languid ravine]

I LOVE that sets helmet

leveled a warlock only for that

but I actually hate playing Warlock so it ended up being pointless

[languid ravine]

for real though, every single class I can see why people would main that shit, except for warlock

you get shadowlocked once and might as well delete the char

[jolly sierra]

oof

yeah dunno i dislike casters but ngl locks are the ones which i tolerate the most

[languid ravine]

like you bait people into a bad position and make a genius gate to GG and check out

except you cant click it because theres like 10 pets blocking it

[jolly sierra]

just played a 1k8 mmr match w 1k8 ppl

and ended 3-3

dunno how tf

[wary spire]

They gonna get a rework tho, no?

I remember locks reeeeing up the forums.

[languid ravine]

hopefully

[jolly sierra]

lets see

[languid ravine]

last I played Affliction you needed to study that spec for like 8 semesters and also track all your shit on a second monitor

to do OKAYish

[jolly sierra]

yeah that is the reason i went demo

just scratch my balls while pets does the job

[languid ravine]

and I havent figured out how to play destro at all

it looks piss easy but I couldnt get it over 20k dps

without dying instantly

<- 2.4k cr on warrior btw

kek

[jolly sierra]

dont feel too bad

look at my 1k8 CR ppl lobby recount

FOR THE WINNER ROUND

cant call myself good w that

lol

[languid ravine]

ah, just gave the hunter all the space he needed i m sure :^)

[jolly sierra]

the only shit i did

was run away and fear ppl

[languid ravine]

no kidding, often times with a hunter on your team you just gotta play as suicidal as possible, so that the enemy has no choice to focus you over the hunter

[jolly sierra]

and just noticed the pet was in passive

for the entire match

XDDDDD

god is is funny

[languid ravine]

warlock pet is just gonna die to like Blade flurry anyways

another reason its the worst class

[jolly sierra]

oof

[languid ravine]

as if 0 mobility wasnt enough already

[jolly sierra]

still dont understand how ppl plays casters

without being cockblocked when they are trained by 2 melees

[wary spire]

On one hand yeah.

On the other - do you remember that frost mage that kicked our asses in scrimish?

Man that was something else.

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[wary spire]

M?

[jolly sierra]

human being duality

im moving forward

[wary spire]

Can't stop won't stop!

[jolly sierra]

gas gas gas

[waxen meteor]

PROF LOCK NOW

[jolly sierra]

im done

leaving this shithole

now call me part time warlock lol

alright cheated the elite xmog w everything but the helm

its over

what a day

[waxen meteor]

lol what are those chinese names you maade

cause of panda?

[jolly sierra]

ye

still find funny i was able to get 1k6 at day 1 being fucking bad w the class

[inland comet]

Which spec most fun to play in pvp?

[glass bear]

fun is very subjective are you talking about just rogue on in general?

[inland comet]

Just rogue

[glass bear]

depends on what playstyle you like

[stoic spruce]

If you like big bursts than sub is the go to. Its usually better of the other 2 specs. If you like fast gameplay than outlaw is fun.

Outlaw is miserable in shuffle though so be wary

[inland comet]

No points in sin's favor?

[stoic spruce]

Oh right

Sin dies fast but it does good dam

It's a hit and run play style

[jolly sierra]

yep

[inland comet]

As sub, is it normal to do less damage than everyone else due to focusing on cc?

[jolly sierra]

ye, they do dmg in burst windows mostly

[inland comet]

Does sub struggle in solo shuffle?

[tawny kestrel]

every spec struggles sometimes, sub is the best rogue spec in shuffle tho

and rarely have unwinnable lobbies

[quaint cedar]

Is the strat for outlaw in shuffle still to just dump every cc into the healer?

I've been avoiding shuffle on my rogue this whole season but was thinking of trying it again

[tawny kestrel]

ye typically just kidney gouge healer off cd

sometimes u have to do other stuff ofc, but thats the general idea

[quaint cedar]

Ok, thanks!

Raz have you tried rogue on ptr?

[tawny kestrel]

nopå

[jolly sierra]

sub the best spec in rogs for high brackets

but in low struggles a lot cuz ppl like WARRIOR storm bolt ur target

or the drood which cyclone the kill target

or the healer and fucks ur blind

[inland comet]

Yeah I was getting messed up by stun totem full DRing my stuns and got frustrated

[jolly sierra]

happens a lot sadly

[stoic spruce]

Yeah some classes/spec just simply do not synergize.

[serene galleon]

whats the go to rogue spec rn for pvp specifically in 2s and shuffle? looking to get back into it before the season ends

[jolly sierra]

im going like this for next season

[jolly sierra]

assa

or sub in 2s

cuz sub is a trouble for most ppl in low brackets from 0

[potent pivot]

@stiff cypress server isn’t meant to be LFG homie

[stiff cypress]

should have a lfg channel ngl

[jolly sierra]

we are a minigame

luckily we have a pvp thread lol

[potent pivot]

Pretty sure there aren’t any LFG channels on purpose, even for pve

[stiff cypress]

fr

[stoic spruce]

The pvp channel is in misc

[stiff cypress]

archived

[twin obsidian]

what does exp mean in pvp

some douche didnt invite me to a premade for not knowing

[radiant glen]

experience

usually highest rating or previous season rating

most ppl just say highest

[wary spire]

Just say you had experience with their moms last night. Works 50% of the time.

[cobalt pewter]

goddamn pander

[surreal barn]

The all white from LFR with those daggers looks slick too

[tender ferry]

Anyone experiment with 10.2 sub builds?

Curious if we’re going DB or more Rotten/Goremaw’s

[floral crest]

When is next season? This is last week for this season right?

[wintry dew]

Fellow pvpers, I haven't pvped for months now since I got the elite mog for this season.
Will S3 have a lot of differences in gameplay for sub rogue or even assa from what has been gathered in PTR?

[wintry dew]

Probably 14th

[white gazelle]

Do you guys macro cold blood to secret tech ?

[wintry dew]

Yes

[waxen meteor]

Yes

I opned like 35 conquest chest for my warrior yesterday, got everything but the weapon

fuck

[jolly sierra]

yeah, but blue one has something

but ngl i would wish elite one would be red

[floral crest]

I opened 12 on a priest lastnight got 6 fucking BM’s lol

Like wtf come on

[jolly sierra]

weapon is a fkn miracle to drop lol

[jolly sierra]

opened 10 and dropped a staff, a chest piece and a shoulders between the best stuff for my lock

[floral crest]

Yea my warrior I opened 13 and used 11 pieces including weapon on one of them

Was fucking amazing

Got 4 pc, weap, bis offset pieces until I crafted. Was nice to just buy trophies for gear instead of buying pieces

[jolly sierra]

good shit

well, at least season is about to end

btw have u got the 2k1?

[unique bramble]

What is the add on/wa that shows icons above totems ?

[floral crest]

If I have a week left I will… 1950 in shuffle 1960 in 2’s and 1.9 in 3’s lol

Warrior is almost identical crs

Sham I’ve done the 2.4 shit.

The hunter I just wanted to gear / honor cap and same with priest

[floral crest]

Cr is going kinda quick and ez so far though…

[jolly sierra]

ah sure, u are done then

[floral crest]

Yea I wasn’t sure if had 1 more week or not

[jolly sierra]

my rog is dropping hard in rating but i dont care anymore, i just play for fun

[floral crest]

Your name is funny btw…. I disarmed a spr lastnight 🤦🏽‍♂️

[jolly sierra]

last match was a zug round with a dark iron dwarf

[floral crest]

Yea I’m just playing with homies now

[jolly sierra]

2 warrs, a ret and a pevoker

so imagine how i ended HAHAHAHA

[jolly sierra]

happens lol

[floral crest]

Dude I had a 2 warrior / frost dk lastnight

I said fuuuuuuuuuuuu

[jolly sierra]

but the meme appeared when a guy here

who isn't w us anymore

[floral crest]

Ended with 3-3

[jolly sierra]

disarmed a mage

and we asked him why he did that

so i insisted in my question and no answer but a lot of ppl here found it funny

lemme find it

[floral crest]

Haha

[wary spire]

WHY DISARM SP

[floral crest]

Lol Jesus

[jolly sierra]

god its still hilarious

[jolly sierra]

lucky u

[floral crest]

Yup…. Not going to lie to you….. I opened hard and ran the entire time

Let the partner do the rest when I had no CDs

[jolly sierra]

that is nice

at least u didn't dropped anything

[wintry dew]

Still waiting for an explanation

[jolly sierra]

day ??? + 1

hyper has left the server, but didn't leave any explaination for his behaviour about disarming mages, we are still here waiting for a response

[lucid citrus]

He left the discord?? Lol

[jolly sierra]

yes

[lucid citrus]

Crazzzyyy

[stiff cypress]

Disarming mage

[lucid citrus]

They can’t cast spells if you disarm them

[jolly sierra]

sadly our guy gave up

maybe was because the bullying he received from other bad pvpers in arena

saw his screens

those fuckers

[stiff cypress]

[wintry dew]

He will be remembered

He had determination, I'll give him that

[jolly sierra]

yeah

a lot

[wintry dew]

2k+ (?) Games and still at 1k rating

Although I believe he actually managed to reach 1.4?

[jolly sierra]

ye did w blake tho

[jolly sierra]

in one he had 800 CR and those scumbags just bullied him

dude at least had the balls to keep playing

[wintry dew]

I would have quit halfway

[wary spire]

Yeah the lower you are the nastier the players.

[wintry dew]

I didn't even know there was a world in the 1000s

Or below

[lucid citrus]

He still playing rogue? Or did he give up on that too?

[wary spire]

We don't know.

[jolly sierra]

ironically

most of time bad players are the trashtalkers

[jolly sierra]

we can check that fast

seems like he left

xdd

[glass bear]

i think hyper has me blocked I tried to help him in like 93250986 discords

[jolly sierra]

he blocked me once cuz i called his shit when he sent his replays

was still a good guy anyways

[glass bear]

[wintry dew]

True, i remember that day actually

[jolly sierra]

nothing to do, at least we tried

and made another guy a chad here

[waxen meteor]

🤣 doing a skirmish 3s with a sub rogue

he said his dps > mine

then his biggest dmg profile is my reflection (aug)

[jolly sierra]

something im pleased about this chat is ppl doesn't call CR from ppl to disregard them

[jolly sierra]

bruh

[jolly sierra]

and the ones doing that are just ghosts lol

[waxen meteor]

my reflection took his 19.8% dmg profile

and i had to heal him like 50% of the time since he is dying whole day

shammy put out earthern, and he jumped out with low hp to setup a kill....

it's good he always do a cheap shot on healer and went kidney on kill target

but he sets everytime kill window when himself is totally dead

[jolly sierra]

u recall me to the mw monk which called my assa dps low cuz i was unable to outdamage our chicken partner

rlly

[waxen meteor]

lol

[jolly sierra]

a little suicidal

[waxen meteor]

i actually used carry skill to move him away from his killing window twice lol

like he setup a kill double stun, try to kill warrior, but demo lock having a tryian out there and sub himself has 30% hp

[jolly sierra]

bruh

[lucid citrus]

I remember he made a YouTube video of sub rotation

And he tried to link it here

[jolly sierra]

i wanna see it

[lucid citrus]

I’ll dm you

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/joseph-joestar-nice-good-job-gif-7319727

[jolly sierra]

glad im done w season

now im losing 0-6 against a ret and 2 dhs

love this toxic shittalk

[lucid citrus]

What mmr are you at? Lol

[jolly sierra]

1781

it cringed after the 2 losses

redeemed

[lucid citrus]

Letss gooo

[jolly sierra]

LETS GOOOOOOOO

[worthy crag]

Ah man

hard to finalize the sub tree for 10.2

[floral crest]

do bloody tokens reset with seasons?

[halcyon timber]

Don’t think so but never payed too close attention. Trophies do change though.

[halcyon timber]

All paths are solid, just depends what you want to emphasize on. Lots of good mix and match options.

[worthy crag]

its certainly better than the tree we have now

and having to weigh different options instead of having one obvious build is a good thing for sure

[halcyon timber]

Agreed, very happy with it. Really appreciate flexibility instead of leaving tools feeling weaker.

I’ve always enjoyed a big emphasis on generator damage and mixing in eviscerates. Glad i still have options to make what is important to me work

[jolly sierra]

nope

it doesn't

spent all in full bloddy gear

[pale storm]

./wave

[languid ravine]

dude its actually gross that Augvoker can pump 50k direct dps by spamming eruption

and meanwhile on Assa I m rotating between 8 different buttons to do the same dps

except my dps is indirect DoT damage that can be purged and stuff

by fair classes such as Augvoker

[glass bear]

that's AUGly

[worthy crag]

isnt eruption dmg the same even if its instant vs fully charged

only the aoe radius changes?

oh wait im thinking upheaval

[jolly sierra]

EZ thro

in assa i got the burst dispelled a lot

[jolly sierra]

prepare ur bloody marks

new s3 drakebreaker weps

sadly the dagger is haste versa again

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[waxen meteor]

Oh I should spend all blood coin again now right?

All my s1 blood coin expired at s2 start

[jolly sierra]

ended 3-3 vs his 2-4

those guys

[jolly sierra]

btw reached 1k9 again tho

was hell

[lucid citrus]

PTR is up?

[wintry dew]

dont they reset?

[jolly sierra]

last time it didn't

[jolly sierra]

checked from wowhead, dunno tbh

[lucid citrus]

ohh I do see that

[jolly sierra]

the thing is

i will need to buy a versa mastery dagger again

OOF

[potent pivot]

that's not that big of a deal xdd

kinda hoping some haste is good with new talent set ups

[jolly sierra]

well

idk

will that tea still being a thing

[potent pivot]

it wasn't only tea that was making haste worse than mast

really the energy gen of haste is only a tiny portion of it's value

biggest thing is faster dot ticks etc

[jolly sierra]

idk how would be a thing if in most seasons we were still going for mastery

it didnt got devalued or something else

[potent pivot]

i think historically assa has mostly gone for haste

[jolly sierra]

i know

i was from the era w haste

[potent pivot]

mast has been a more recent thing, could be wrong that's just how i remember it

[jolly sierra]

since DF s1

[stoic spruce]

I cant wait for haste gear

[sharp pumice]

is mastery stilll looking meta

with the rework

[visual flume]

hello guys do we know which spec is gonna be better next season between assa and outlaw?

[potent pivot]

won't know until more testing is done

[potent pivot]

nope

[stoic spruce]

Sub>assa>outlaw

Everything is moreso the same but they're all better now

We don't know for sure but I say this with utmost confidence because lemme tell you

I put in some hours on ptr

[sharp pumice]

I tried a few things on ptr but I wasn't able to get any significant pvp done

and I caught a ban from the warrior disco so I'm only testing rogue, lel

[jolly bear]

yo how often do you guys run into someone scripting interrupts?

[minor cape]

idk but sometimes i feel like i run into people who have some kind of an autostun cheat

but im not sure if it's a thing or just my l2p issue

🤩

[sharp pumice]

Legit think a good number of players are cheating, that or there's some serious rank one skillset mfs in the 1700s now

[hidden moth]

Better question, how often do you guys run into bots at 1700 mmr lol

Literally 3 matches in a row of straight up bots who just afk and if they get hit they randomply pop and ability

[wary spire]

Never seen one like that.

[nova viper]

I probably never seen bots

xD

[hidden moth]

i just had another one

a war just started afking

he only moved once i targeted him idk its kinda suspicious

[jolly sierra]

the only bots ive seen are the interrupt ones

[gaunt flax]

Anyone have a good weak order package for pvp? Outlaw compatable preferably but sub is the backup if I can't get good enough

[jolly bear]

it’s easy just pick a kick bot and you’ll get 1800 in no time you can’t even report people for using it!!! I’ve tried!!!

[tribal badger]

man what stats can law even go on ptr

mastery got nerfed, crit is already nerfed

the haste talents really dont add much value to haste

its a bit cursed rn

all of new laws design seems a bit cursed for pvp honestly

[languid ravine]

expansion endgame where stats are the most abundant
all stats suck for Outlaw
Find Weakness and marked for death removed

[tribal badger]

they also made it so ur balanced around vanish and dancing on cd for damage

where before u just did good damage all the time looping with procs

and could dance for higher pressure/setup and vanish defensivly/for cc

[languid ravine]

now you press Vanish just to keep up

[tribal badger]

outlaw on ptr does like 30% less dps total if ur not playing around crackshot

entire spec is tuned around that talent

i think the damage will still be fine vs cloth, idk about vs plate

but needing to use those on cd + all secondaries sucking

time to go for 10k vers boys

idk why they felt the need to nerf mastery with the rework

[languid ravine]

All rogues stack mastery in PvP?
This MUST mean mastery op, just nerf it no need to check the numbers

tbh it will be so fucking hilarious if this is the most fun to play Outlaw iteration ever and also most trash in PvP Outlaw ever

[chrome schooner]

What's the nerf to mastery ?

[languid ravine]

no clue but some guy on discord said it was nerfed, therefore it must be true

if it wasnt nerfed directly there is still the fact that you have a lot fewer main guache procs with the new Outlaw

[hollow stratus]

do we have less hp than other classes ?

i am 1.5k but with 3 3 like every ss i wont climb

and 2.1k is a long way to go

😦

[tribal badger]

They removed 5% proc chance from the talent tree that you always had

Which is an 8% nerf to masteries raw value for law

[chrome schooner]

I mean there is still a talent that increases the proc chance by 5% in the spec tree though ?

[tribal badger]

Yes but it used to be 10%

[chrome schooner]

Oh really, I thought it was always 5

[tribal badger]

It was a 2 rank talent u always took that gave 5% per

[chrome schooner]

I mean if that's the only nerf I think the stat will survive :p

[tribal badger]

I mean

An 8% nerf to a secondary is pretty big

It went from meh in pve to pretty much worthless

I guess we might still stack it just cause there's nothing else to take

[gaunt flax]

I'm just doing solo queue because it feels more fair hard to keep track of audacity and all the dumb maintenance buffs

[hollow stratus]

very fair when there is trash palyers

its nearly impossible to go better than 3 3

[gaunt flax]

I don't mind. Feels more gladiatorial being thrown into a ring with random people of varying skill. It should be the only mode to reward glad title

[hollow stratus]

y

but still frustrating

like evry class has more hp tahn us

[jolly sierra]

are you in assa?

cuz ppl will assblast u very fast if you are in a group of peabrain melees

from yesterday

[hollow stratus]

i am assa ye

[jolly sierra]

context, im going assa and got a match w a ret, a warr and a windwalker

lose 3 rounds in a row, but won the next 3

that is it then

try running more if possible

w shadowstep

[hollow stratus]

idk what build i should take

cleave build or burst build

and what poisons XD

wound and deadly i guess

[nova viper]

Assa assa

mikasa es sukasa

[hollow stratus]

[jolly sierra]

DTB with wound/deadly

[hollow stratus]

damn its so hard i just want 2.1k once 😄

[wary spire]

https://murlok.io/rogue/assassination/solo
Check this one. Shows the most popular talents and you can peek at which talents the top ones are using.

[hollow stratus]

cool picture

but thats not an assa 😄

[jolly sierra]

if is your first time then try for next season

u can however get 1k8

[hollow stratus]

but i need illusion 😄

[jolly sierra]

too

late

if is from 1500 in this final week

[hollow stratus]

not if i perma win XD

[jolly sierra]

send me a screen in nov 4th with ur duelist

im waiting XD

[hollow stratus]

^^

[cobalt pewter]

[hollow stratus]

is there any difference from normal tset to pvp tset ?

[jolly sierra]

the ilvl

pvp has 450 ilvl

[hollow stratus]

stats are the same ?

[tribal badger]

Yes

Stats on tiers are set

[jolly sierra]

pvp has more

[nova viper]

SEXO

[jolly sierra]

SEXOOOOOO

[waxen meteor]

Are there any reasons to do panda monk other than lore ?

[jolly sierra]

ehhhh

1% versa food

[waxen meteor]

Oh wait, that's something you can eat in arena?

[hollow stratus]

next season is diff illusion or

[waxen meteor]

for weapon?

[hollow stratus]

y

[jolly sierra]

ofc is something i do all the time

[jolly sierra]

different

[hollow stratus]

ah damn

guess i need to plunder my bank account Kappa

[waxen meteor]

think each season will be diff

tbh both s1 and s2 illusion looks nice

[hollow stratus]

y didnt get s1

thought lets get s2

than realized time is not on my side

[waxen meteor]

you still have enough time

[hollow stratus]

1 week no

solo shuffle is quite hard

[waxen meteor]

that's good enough if you play it during day time

sometimes

[hollow stratus]

i am not that good in pvp

decent but not good

[waxen meteor]

will always be hard if you don't try!

this is best time to reach 2100

[hollow stratus]

sure

[waxen meteor]

inflation max

[hollow stratus]

but i mostly go 3 3

but quee times are huge

or long idk 😄

i got 1,8k during bfa season 1 with my warri in 2s but yeah

i am not a pvp player

[waxen meteor]

queue time is actually fine these days

[hollow stratus]

still sad that u do not get rating at 3 3

20 would be nice 😄

[waxen meteor]

Nice nohead is gone

I think been doing 7 chars per day for whole weeks

[hollow stratus]

whut

[waxen meteor]

the halloween mount

[hollow stratus]

ah

how much is 0 -> 2.1k boost

😄

[waxen meteor]

@jolly sierra honey, enchants are same in 10.2 as of today?

[waxen meteor]

what boost?

[hollow stratus]

2s or 3s idk

i just think i am not fit for pvp 😄

but i wil leasy farm the elite set in 2 addons

KAPPA

[waxen meteor]

I am not sure if i got what you mean

[hollow stratus]

u can like relatively easys farm any mythic set after another addon is released

but elite is gone forever

[lone goblet]

This late in the season you really want full conquest gear and embelishments

If you have the gear can prob get to 1800 just by doing pve rotation on people with almost no pvp sense needed.

[hollow stratus]

started like 3 days ago xd

[waxen meteor]

1800 is like starting mmr now

[hollow stratus]

idk

i am 1561 rn

[lone goblet]

It's harder if you're undergeared because you can't bully people then

[waxen meteor]

you can do it

[lone goblet]

and need to actually be good hehe

[waxen meteor]

dont be so worry just go ahead and keep playing

solo is also fine

if you need to wait for your 3s teammates to be online

it doesn't hurt

[hollow stratus]

i have no mates

no one likes me

[waxen meteor]

so why not go solo

[hollow stratus]

i do

but its hard

i have like no gear

[waxen meteor]

That's quite low, how -.-

my one day old warrior is much higher gear lol

[hollow stratus]

how ß

[thorn pond]

honestly the next season's pvp gear will be out in 7 days so just farm honor to be able to buy it day 1 and then you'll be on par with others

[hollow stratus]

and waht will it do with this season ?

0

[wintry dew]

TLDR either you spam SS until you passout and get lucky lobbies, or you can start gathering honor / bloody coins for next season

[jolly sierra]

illusions or enchants?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S2CX6KDBLuE

this is the s3 elite enchant

[wintry dew]

BIG MEH

[jolly sierra]

yeah shadowflame all the time

[hollow stratus]

ok need to grind even harder now

[jolly sierra]

what will u do?

[hollow stratus]

queue up for solo shuffle and hope the best

[lucid citrus]

EWWWWW

I’m so glad i got shadowflame LOL

[wintry dew]

I'm so happy for all the rogues that grinded the 2.1 this season

WHILE I GOT IT DURING S1

[hollow stratus]

[hollow stratus]

whats s1 illusion

[wintry dew]

Lightning + wind stuff

looks bad

cant make video

[jolly sierra]

same lol

[wintry dew]

Mage can you showcase the s1 one ?

i know you got it

on that sweet paladin

😛

[jolly sierra]

dude im glad i got it, even if was w the ret 1st

[jolly sierra]

ahhhh huhy

yeah i "cheated" w s1 one

what u wanna know lol

[waxen meteor]

enchants

i am thinking if i need to buy all from AH today

next week it will cost more for sure

[wintry dew]

can you make a video of s1 elite illusion?

like you did for s3

nevermind that was a youtube video

LOL

thought it was you on PTR

[stuck gate]

Hey everyone, just a qq cause I'm mad confused about builds for sub rn. There's so many different variations I've seen, and some of the top players on the leaderboard are running Vigor in their rogue tree which I've never seen mentioned anywhere. Is there a specific reason for it? I'm also torn on running gloomblade and the first dance.

[jolly sierra]

im in job XD

[wintry dew]

dw my man xD

[jolly sierra]

the enchant is primal storm

im sure there are a gif, sec

[jolly sierra]

dunno if the new enchant is decent, but just in case buy for sophic as always

remember what happened w shadowflame enchant

[jolly sierra]

ye that one

love it w my ww monk

[waxen meteor]

There are just too many trash rogues in skirmish

I am so sick of these

Fucking rogue used stun once (a cheapshot) in a 1 min 2s

[jolly sierra]

what if they come here and ask us to git gud xdd

sadly most of bad and toxic rogues arent even here

[hollow stratus]

how to play vs mage

u cant

nice

[jolly sierra]

wut

u are disgustingly good against mages

as assa

[hollow stratus]

trash mates can los

cant'

[jolly sierra]

shadowstep is the key there

[waxen meteor]

Well if rogue cannot play against mage, other melees are auto dead

[hollow stratus]

step -> blink

step -> blink

perma slowed

moving like an idiot

[waxen meteor]

use your kidney wisely

[hollow stratus]

i used it

[waxen meteor]

nowadays mage doesn't use the bliink with stun removal

[hollow stratus]

trinket

rooting

jumping away while nearlys os

idk we say we focus mage

mate goes on other target 🙂

[waxen meteor]

fine, you will lose mage for a while, you cant stay with them forever, but we are the primary threat for mage among melees

he can trinket stun once, but not twice

[jolly sierra]

there are 2 kind of mages

the ones using shimmer and the ones using blink

u can check that if u stun them

if they moves inside stun then is blink

[waxen meteor]

yeah nowadays they all use shimmer

[jolly sierra]

u can just shadowstep them safely

[waxen meteor]

i like blink and use blink myself

[jolly sierra]

if is shimmer

just stun them

[hollow stratus]

honestly it was healer diff

one went 6 0 the other 0 6

[jolly sierra]

and use a lot the poisoned knife

to short distance

[waxen meteor]

the thing is, regardless of how hard it is

in solo it's better to not leave frost mage unwatched

you lose some dmg, but you can still dotting others

the key is to not allow frost mage do 123481308 cc and 543845038 dmg

[jolly sierra]

the shittiest melee against mages imo are ww monks

they can just dispell the root once

also yeah, u can still dot up and throw spikes

[floral crest]

Idk 9/10 mages I ever come across use blink in stun

[sharp pumice]

They're brutal to their fellow melee though

[hollow stratus]

alwas 3 3

its so dumb

[jolly sierra]

yesterday

when i dropped to hell to 1k7

cuz a 1-5 and a 0-6

had very good matches in a row

most of time is because your comp

i got a 5-1 and a 4-2 shortly later

[halcyon timber]

Yeh boy

[wintry dew]

My ret friend reached 2.4 yesterday, and he was between 2.2 and 2.4 CR for like 2 weeks

Either you get a good lobby and go 6-0

or get a lobby where you're the KT and go 0-6

[waxen meteor]

yeah some lobbies are hard, and some lobbies you were left open

[halcyon timber]

Or a lobby w people who use don’t peel for healers and line them and quit

[waxen meteor]

i am fine in my ret lobbies to be kill target, it's not that hard

i also like to be target in my SP lobbies

[wintry dew]

LoS the healer the whole game - Healers fault

xD

[waxen meteor]

but i don't enjoy it in sin lobbies

[halcyon timber]

Y u no hel me?!? XD

[wintry dew]

Exactly XDD

[waxen meteor]

some healers got exposed to cc 24/7 then they yelled you los

[halcyon timber]

Waddling duck priests

[waxen meteor]

there was a DH match, I was like literally not healed for 15 seconds, and i saw him in middle of the field being cced forever

i stayed behind pillar for 15 seconds and still died lol

[jolly sierra]

the 5-1 match had a ret as kill target

w me being assa

[halcyon timber]

Dh doesn’t cc, gets feared once and dies to void torrent and blames healer

[wintry dew]

"OMG THIS GAME IS STUPID I GOT CCED FOR AGES" - A random healer, standing in the middle of the arena

[jolly sierra]

so in the case was skill issue

[waxen meteor]

the bigger problem is

after the 15 seconds cc

he finally tried to reach me in pillar

[jolly sierra]

"IM UNSTALLING REEEEEEEE"

[waxen meteor]

but went same direction as the casters on other sdie

[wintry dew]

LOL

[halcyon timber]

That’ll show my healer!

[waxen meteor]

Then i had to run against all of them

was funny

[halcyon timber]

Warrior leaps to their side and gets space jam dunked by chaos bolts. Effin healer!

[waxen meteor]

cause i had like only 10% hp

then he went you los me

i was like, oh yeah of course

[halcyon timber]

Yeah a 130k heal is > 250k in damage according to solo shuffle kids

[hollow stratus]

healer doing dmg in ss is bis

to kill targets

[waxen meteor]

Game is literally like this

[halcyon timber]

XD

[waxen meteor]

Green circle being the healer

[chrome schooner]

High lvl art skills right there

[waxen meteor]

Picaso

[halcyon timber]

What a beautiful work of historical art. Must be preserved.

Rogue strategem , colorized 1865

Perfection

[wintry dew]

Thats how you get to 2.4

[waxen meteor]

I think I had to do this to not los him

but i think i am dead before he can see me lol

[halcyon timber]

Hard for people with hot dogs for fingers

What’s crazy is some people will go left and run around and scream you lined them

[waxen meteor]

yeah

sometimes i do wrong things too

but it's werid people make mistake and yell at others

[halcyon timber]

For sure but some people like to treat mugumbala like nascar

They fix blades edge? They took it down and put it back. Im assuming you can’t tony hawk kickflip blast wave people 1200feet anymore like the x games

[jolly sierra]

graphic design is my passion

[waxen meteor]

Rate me 100 pls

[jolly sierra]

wait

[jolly sierra]

done

[visual flume]

haha neat! ty I'll prolly main assa then

[jolly sierra]

WHY U ARE SO BAD ROG IMAGINE LOSING AGAINST A MONK AND A WARR

[hollow stratus]

why do fking blizz gate good stuf behind shit pvp

[sharp pumice]

Because it gives the illusion of a vibrant and thriving pvp system

Without having to address issues

[jolly sierra]

to avoid pve andys flexing for having their stuff and be jealous of us

[hollow stratus]

thats why pvp andys flex with pve stuff great

while u can get it in max 2 addons for ease

wp

[jolly sierra]

the difference is

i can get pve stuff like rewards anytime mostly

in pvp is just for a season and then poof

[hollow stratus]

y

thats exactly what i meant

eventho ur maybe good at pvp and bad at pve

u can get stuff easily

2 addons later

[wintry dew]

not the mounts

[hollow stratus]

of course

they still drop

[wintry dew]

0.1% xD

[hollow stratus]

better than removed

[jolly sierra]

yeah i have a invincible but ngl i found it boring af

also ask a pve player to do a full rotation in an arena match

and u will see what will happen

[hollow stratus]

i can tell

u get ccd slowed and outhealed

[jolly sierra]

or just trained down

so, what will u do for the 2k1?

[hollow stratus]

just keep queueing

[jolly sierra]

u have 1 week remaining

[hollow stratus]

hoping for the best

[jolly sierra]

k, gl

[hollow stratus]

idk what else i can do

[wintry dew]

Complaining wont get you rating

[hollow stratus]

?

i am in queue

to go 3 3 again

[jolly sierra]

the thing is u chose just the last week to push

[wintry dew]

then stop queuing

and stop crying

[jolly sierra]

with a little experience

[hollow stratus]

i chose the week i returned playing

[jolly sierra]

bad timing, for real

u will stress a lot trying that

from 1500

[hollow stratus]

dont know what u mean

its just dumb when u go 3 3 and someone goes worse than that u still dont get points 😄

[wintry dew]

You think about others way more than improving yourself

[hollow stratus]

in the end i have to play with them

sure i think about em

[wintry dew]

but

from what you write

you are good, others are bad

thats a bad take

[jolly sierra]

ppl can call me shit even i high rated

but i check their stuff

and how they played

[hollow stratus]

i am really bad

in pvp

thats why its so dumb that i have to do it

[wintry dew]

then dont do it

[hollow stratus]

??

i want the elite and the illusion

[wintry dew]

then get gud

and get it

[jolly sierra]

and see if they are saying me the truth

if you are too rushed and see u are stuck just get a boost dunno

but tbh i dont think u can improve that much to 2k1 in SS in a week

[wintry dew]

from 0 to 2.1k without prio experience

and playing a rogue?

no way

[jolly sierra]

i got 2k1 in rogue after like 2 seasons i started

then in SL got 1k8 in s1, 1k8 in S2 due to lazyness, then 2050 in s3 and 4

[wintry dew]

thats prio experience xD

[jolly sierra]

mostly was because i had problems finding partners and my setup

imo is the worst from here overall

[wintry dew]

wdym from here

[jolly sierra]

dude i use a 2013 office laptop to play

im comparing myself w ppl from here haha

[wintry dew]

OH

i got what you mean now

Yeah i saw your setup

xD

[jolly sierra]

in DF s1 got 2050 w rog again, then stopped w ret rework, parked him to 1k8 when was in the shit and got 2k4 in day 3 after rework

[jolly sierra]

cyberpunk 2077 setup lol

had to admit i cheated that rating but is still in my historial w rog, so

now i got 2k1 w ret again, just because i played w 3 chars pushing from the same CR (1K8) and reached it first

im playing rog now just for fun

but that is it, took its time to catch the trick

it isnt something u can do just in a week xd

[hollow stratus]

honestly

i dont want to get good

i only want transmog

[wintry dew]

xD

[jolly sierra]

then go w nova and pay a boost

[wintry dew]

xD

[hollow stratus]

i would if i had gold

[jolly sierra]

well, that is beyond the legal now then

gl finding the 2k1 by other ways

[worthy crag]

reroll ret Kappa

[jolly sierra]

ret is EZ thro

but helps a lot mitigating my setup

KEK

[jolly bear]

question, from Nov 7-13 are we not able to play ranked or the season for PvE doesnt start until Nov 14

[jolly sierra]

hmmm

[jolly bear]

also are we immediately ditching 2 set as sub for new honor gear and going back to dark brew or staying on the rotten

[jolly sierra]

u wont play ranked for that time

but u can still get the bloddy token gear

if is like in this season

ur second question tbh idk cuz i dont main sub

in s3 u can still go to new zone but not doing stuff like raids or rated pvp

during that time

[jolly bear]

so are the ranked modes just greyed out?

[jolly sierra]

yes

u can still push but u are unable to get any season reward

like elite sets

[jolly bear]

I'll just duel outside the pvp cave lol

[jolly sierra]

or go to premade groups and farm tokens

im still mad about the dagger being not versa mastery

so will have to do the same shit i did in s2

cuz i dont care about pushing pve for a fucking dagger

[sharp pumice]

If you're climbing, it's prior experience - if you're saying you gave (rating number)xp, it doesn't count, and you're old

[jolly sierra]

ª

im thinking about the next lego

im wondering the drop ratio, maybe can do weekly runs to the boss hehehehehe

[wintry dew]

I honestly didn't understand what you meant, could you rephrase it?

[jolly sierra]

same, maybe even more cuz i dont speak english as first lang lol

[wintry dew]

Me neither my bro

I did understand the part where I'm old

[sharp pumice]

I'm just making a stupid joke about how people disregard old xp, but in this case, still cound old xp

[wintry dew]

I was not disregarding it 😮

[sharp pumice]

wasn't too deep for you to get, it was shallow enough that you missed it

[worthy crag]

No IMO

[wintry dew]

I was actually saying that he had prior exp before getting duelist

[sharp pumice]

ye

and when you apply for groups and say 2600xp

[worthy crag]

2set is too good and youll wanna hold on to it as long as possible

[sharp pumice]

they're like OH IT WASN'T THIS EXPANSION YOU SUCK

[worthy crag]

some ppl even said keeping it for BiS in season 3 but i kinda doubt that

[wintry dew]

Oh I got you now

The good old " WW2 achievments"

[worthy crag]

Disregard xp not by expansion but by season

[sharp pumice]

kek

D-Day, Cata, same diff

[wintry dew]

XDDDD

[worthy crag]

"Hey Im multiglad, once from corrupted and another from unchained season"

[sharp pumice]

I mean my 2600 then is probably realistically ~2100-2200 now

[untold remnant]

1 more week guys, then we will be broken for 1 day 😄

[sharp pumice]

naaaaaah, we'll be broken for a full 3-4 days

[wintry dew]

Yes mister kayn pfp

[sharp pumice]

Ret got like 2 months

we'll get a week

[worthy crag]

I mean havent people had a chance to try on ptr?

Not sure I heare outrageous things at least with sub

[sharp pumice]

PVP was disabled when I was screwing with PTR

could only duel

[worthy crag]

O i see

[sharp pumice]

and I usually stomp people in duels

not because good, but because rogue

but being a bigdick dueler doesn't translate to arena/rbg performance

[worthy crag]

Its still a decent chance to gauge how much of a healthbar a 7cp evis takes off

But I never got on the ptr so i wouldnt know

[wary spire]

Ayyy

[frigid spade]

Genuine question: why do I see so many sub pvpers with dagger mh and outlaw weapon oh? Is there a genuine reason for it, or is it just people who also bought an outlaw pvp weapon for some reason?

I'm assuming it might be better stats or something...?

[wary spire]

Oh that has better stats.

[sharp pumice]

versatility mastery stat distribution

that's all

having a slower OH used to be good but I don't think it does anything for us now

[jolly sierra]

tbh i would do that

if a shadowlands s2 glad insults me in his ugly dead farnished dragon mount

[sharp pumice]

I didn't really play SL so I'm kinda ignorant there

[jolly sierra]

to beat me again in an arena match XDDD

shadowlands s2 is the most inflated season in recent time

[jolly bear]

I would prefer double daggers but I only got 437 daggers and that’s not good compared to 450 claws

[sharp pumice]

ahhhh, I see

[jolly sierra]

so had a lot of glads compared to other seasons

[sharp pumice]

lotta people jumping above 3k and such, lol

[jolly sierra]

can confirm

a guy tried to teach me once after beating me in a duel

[untold remnant]

I managed to 2.4k in shuff on rogue, now trying to push some 3s, but it's hard man 😮

[jolly sierra]

and checked his xp, just said "no thank you, tbh i dont care about dueling that much"

[jolly sierra]

that hard? damn

[jolly bear]

shuffle is a fiesta but I’m sick of all the fkn druids and paladins man

[jolly sierra]

OOF

do u have the emerald nightmare trinket from first boss and some enginnering?

[wary spire]

Ye took me like 20 tries with pvp gear and no consumes.

[jolly sierra]

damn

and u have it now, right?

[wary spire]

Have what? Trinket - no. Cool looking set - yes.

[jolly sierra]

then its done, gg

[jolly bear]

I actually liked the season set this time

[glass bear]

who even needs vers

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/ravenholdt/tantify

[wary spire]

I think i'll try clearing the other 2 specs just for fun.

But not going to level a tank or a healer for their challanges that's for sure, lol.

[wary spire]

That's some dedication to the mastery.

[glass bear]

[wary spire]

Ended up not using the set in my s3 transmog. But got inspired!

[worthy crag]

s3 prob gonna be verse season, or at least thats what i plan for myself

[jolly sierra]

im using it for next season, no questions

[sharp pumice]

what I wanna know is how do people go black in the armory and all that

also goddamn yeah that's some mastery

[glass bear]

It is when you first transfer to a server

I do a lot of bmah

So I change a lot

[sharp pumice]

oh so it's more a bug than a feature

[glass bear]

Yeah

[stoic spruce]

Outlaw

I forgot how good the resident evil movies are

[jolly sierra]

good luck, ask me if u need scaled gear for give a try the next towers

[stoic spruce]

I seen that and I was like "thats how I feel about Outlaw"

[wary spire]

Ay sure. I remember sub being the hardest for me. And outlaw one taking maybe 3 tries.

[jolly sierra]

OOF

for me the hardest was outlaw one

always got shitty dice rolls

[jolly sierra]

also, i can craft u a lot of old world stuff w mage tower scaling

trades are region wide, so

[stoic spruce]

what do you MEAN you dont like Grandmaster and Blade Flurrying in single target?

[wary spire]

I'll wait with rework first on those ones. Want to try the ra-ta-ta-ta-ta build on outlaw there.

[jolly sierra]

in legion w that thicc imp mommy always were unlucky af

[jolly sierra]

hmmmmm

[wary spire]

Mamaaaa

Oooooooooh

[jolly sierra]

uhhhh

[wary spire]

I've killed a man

[jolly sierra]

dat timing

[languid ravine]

Back in Legion the Outlaw challenge was like three times as hard as the other ones

[jolly sierra]

the easiest one for rogues in that time was assa one

just because u used the feint lego and boom perma healing

but ironically had one of the best looking skins across all 3

[jolly sierra]

look

[wary spire]

TRUEEE

Sub one sucks.

[wary spire]

I think it also did not have an enrage. So you could just screw around as long as you liked.

[jolly bear]

yup I use Sin's appearance usually

[jolly sierra]

the ice breaker

i use it w mage tower rog xmog actually lol

[jolly sierra]

maybe was cuz that

[jolly sierra]

i used it w s2 xmog till they added those giant daggers in september trading post

[jolly bear]

which ones

[wary spire]

Transparent blue sin one looks dope with it as well tho.

[jolly sierra]

the big blue ones

[jolly sierra]

yeah i used them with primal storm illusion

[wary spire]

Ye that's dope. Do pandas have silver jewelry btw?

[jolly sierra]

only gold i recall

[wary spire]

Darn.

Thought I was onto something.

[jolly sierra]

at least can change some hair color to fit stuff lol

[waxen meteor]

Starting mmr now = 1888

I just had first warrior game, char reached lv70 a couple of days ago from lv1. 1888 MMR

[tribal badger]

the grind begins

this spec is fun

but it has way too many buttons

ret does all its burst in like 3 buttons

[stoic spruce]

Which are you

[tribal badger]

why does this spec have like 15 cooldowns

im the dk

[stoic spruce]

Ah okay

Yeah I win on opener most of the time because people react weirdly lol

[tribal badger]

i got the GOAT rng on my conquest boxes

[stoic spruce]

No way

[tribal badger]

dinged 70 an hour ago and i went straight to 447 pvp ilvl

only thing i didnt get was a ring and a pvp trinket

got all tier pieces + perfect weapon

only piece with wrong stats was neck

[stoic spruce]

Those are chump change too lol

[strange stag]

If i want to get glad in S3 (i got legend this season) should i start from beggining ? Or late in the season

[stoic spruce]

Late

Take advantage of mmr inflation and stuff

Beginning is a bunch of r1 at 1800

[strange stag]

I would love to start right now but its probably too late for lfr 2000-2400 push and 50 w

[stoic spruce]

Yeah probably

If you had a group, def possible

[waxen meteor]

I was a bit confused in trial account for DK

double resources

[tribal badger]

it has alot of buttons ngl

just to do its damage

[waxen meteor]

Waiting for DK rework lol

Now I only miss DK/Druid/Shammy/Monk Char

DF is so good for alt exp

[stoic spruce]

why rogue got one before dk is beyond me tbh

[waxen meteor]

well rogue rework also confuses me tbh

I don't know anything about DK but I feel rogue just needs some small tuning on the tree

I feel outlaw is the only one that needs rework, but it doesn't get a huge rework (to simplify control, remove similar skills like ret and other reworks)

[stoic spruce]

dk is down bad

[waxen meteor]

DK had been broken good for a while isnt it?

before it was nerfed

[tribal badger]

i dont think it was ever too broken damage wise

but it was ludicriously tanky earlier in the expac

so it ate some pretty big defensive nerfs

then they remade ret to be a god

now dks probably the least threatening of the plate specs tbh

arms has worse counter lobbies probably but i still think its stronger

also frost hasnt existed since its nerfs way back when

literal dead spec

[stoic spruce]

they couldve nerfed two talents and got a much better effect. When a DK is a good kill target for casters, you have a big problem/

[tribal badger]

yeaaa dks defensives r decent early in the game they just get hardfukt by dampening

[stoic spruce]

yeah after a minute or so. they become CC immunities more than defensives

[jolly sierra]

JUST FUCKING DIE U MOB THUG BRINGING 3 GUYS TO KILL ME

[jolly sierra]

DIEEEEEEEEEE

[jolly sierra]

got something similar days ago w the lock

but never played rated till that moment

[jolly sierra]

damn those r1

[thick slate]

do it in a season where the glad mount looks atleast somewhat good lol

[marsh ridge]

any sub talent tree available to analyze for pvp?

[wary spire]

You mean updated talent calcs? They're on wowhead under ptr section.

[marsh ridge]

I see, but I am curious if anyone created a dust or db build for ptr to use on pvp

[stoic spruce]

From: Mizzen
Subject: It' s a Rumble Promotion!
Heya pal! The name' s Mizzen, and I hear you' re pretty good at findin' stuff.
See, I've been playin' this new game called Warcraft Rumble but I'm fresh outta coins.
How about we meet up and I'll tell you where to find some?

[teal imp]

Mizzen spaming my Mailbox

[jolly sierra]

From: Mizzen
Subject: It' s a Rumble Promotion!
Heya pal! The name' s Mizzen, and I hear you' re pretty good at findin' stuff.
See, I've been playin' this new game called Warcraft Rumble but I'm fresh outta coins.
How about we meet up and I'll tell you where to find some?

[languid ravine]

From: Mizzen
Subject: It' s a Rumble Promotion!
Heya pal! The name' s Mizzen, and I hear you' re pretty good at findin' stuff.
See, I've been playin' this new game called Warcraft Rumble but I'm fresh outta coins.
How about we meet up and I'll tell you where to find some?

[exotic dove]

This might be an incredibly fried take but Rogues in solo shuffle was the most annoying/difficult to climb tbh. I achieved my ratings and goals with the class but compared to other classes it was noticeably rougher.

Rogue being one of my main classes though probably helped.

[tribal badger]

rogue was def the hardest melee climb i did

[jolly sierra]

rog is one of the best classes to git gud

but yeah its pretty crappy to climb up in shuffle with all those zugzug peabrained players

[tribal badger]

zugzug is very effective at climbing in shuffle ive found

just maximize pve rotation on the squishiest target and make ur focus macro for us 30s cd 4 second ranged stun

press it on cd

thats basically a free 2100

or it was on ret/warrior/soon to be dk

oh and dh

[exotic dove]

My Dk got 2100 in SS back in July or August in under 100 rounds played as Unholy lol

felt free tbh haha

[jolly sierra]

that will be a speedrun in 10.2

cuz fyrakk lego