ok ty
#pvp
fossil monolith
halcyon timber
Welcome back man, we are ok honestly. Other classes got buffed a lot while you were gone. Tuesday on patch day, we may see ptr for our talent revamp to test for 10.2.
They should delete that image so pvers don’t go wUtttt pvPeRs gEt aN eXcLusiVe SEt? Wat ThE fIsh BLizzUrd?!?!
Welcome back brother, yeah a lot of stuff changed. Some good, some bad. Combat is still aggressive, we are about to get new talents and stuff getting shifted around so get ready to adapt. Hope you’re having a good time at least so far man.
jolly sierra
They should delete that image so pvers don’t go wUtttt pvPeRs gEt aN eXcLusiVe S...
brInG elITe seTS bAck tO bMah blIzZ rEEEeeeeEeeE
halcyon timber
brInG elITe seTS bAck tO bMah blIzZ rEEEeeeeEeeE
ThAt sHuld bE oN tHe tRadInG pOsT
Dingdingdingding
karmic summit
Does any1 know a high level rmp playing streamer that i can watch them play? Or a guide to rmp
stoic spruce
Maybe don't afk
languid ravine
its like you see Guardian druid and you expect nothing but still get disappointed 
stoic spruce
Bro these tanks are pumping this season
jolly sierra
fkn bears they are legit trolls
halcyon timber
Tank lobby -> afk lobby -> leaver lobby - minus 18 rating
Had a -68 and a -90 lobby w that exact scenario a few weeks ago. 1 after another
Played 2 matches in both
languid ravine
gross man
halcyon timber
Does any1 know a high level rmp playing streamer that i can watch them play? Or ...
Dunno but you’re pretty much a pokemon for your fire mage and you just stun crap each time they are ready to do damage. Mage does the damage and you get nerfed for it is how it works usually.
You pretty much set the table and keep them free casting as much as possible while doing damage in between controlling stuff.
jolly sierra
thinking in xmogging back to elite s2 with primal storm and those daggers from trading post once season is over
to celebrate this fkn season is finally done
hope they removes precock for season 3 like they did with CC reduction
waxen meteor
thinking in xmogging back to elite s2 with primal storm and those daggers from t...
I feel this dagger looks really like the new trading post dagger
Try this one too maybe
clever blaze
how's sin in shuffle since the buffs?
halcyon timber
Does good damage, just reliant on team to stay alive if trained
(Observational note)
We are all kinda waiting on ptr to see what’s the deal moving forward though.
jolly sierra
hmm not bad
wary spire
Does it have a pink variant?
past crown
andybody has a keybinding guide for me .. i have problems trick shot multible targets because i am to slow changing targets
waxen meteor
hmm not bad
Seems just shorter version of trader post version
Which in game looks more like a dagger over as sword
And it looks longer in game than in your screenshot
wary spire
Waiting for that ptr to drop to have something pvp related to discuss. 
jolly sierra
this channels talks more about <#226403529894526987> than playing pvp <:kekdog:9...
shhhh we are still in topic cuz we are discussing this for the elite pvp set lol
stoic spruce
<@530563212093947914>
I cried
Ita probably going to be some lame-ass light vs void shit
quaint cedar
eww
I hope not
I still believe in the pirate xpac
remember when blizzard said evoker wasn't getting a new spec?
scarlet shell
SEA OF THIEVES EXPANSION then we are cool
stoic spruce
Yeah thats true. They do that a lot actually.
scarlet shell
they made dragonriding work
with its spaghetti code engine
now make realistic water and boats
and boats that take damage and sink
stoic spruce
So much ocean we haven't explored
Bro if we could have Sea of Theives in wow, that would unironically go so hard.
quaint cedar
I would be so hyped for that
surreal barn
Deep stories about realistic threats are always more fun to play along to for me
Giant sword in silithus not so much
lol
quaint cedar
Same. I've never really liked the cosmic side of the lore much
wary spire
Ita probably going to be some lame-ass light vs void shit
I'd be ok with it If I could choose a side.
Fuck you light.
I am my scars.
quaint cedar
I am my scars.
easily my favorite legion cutscene
wary spire
Deep stories about realistic threats are always more fun to play along to for me
Were there any deep stories in wow? They were always a fun shallow puddle.
quaint cedar
I wouldn't call it deep or anything, but I really enjoyed the alliance campaign in BfA. It was fun and I enjoyed a more grounded story. Being naval/pirate themed certainly helped too lol
Of course then they had to bring in old god stuff later in the expac anyways
wary spire
Classic - run around in that cool rts world
BC - oh shit demons
Wrath - oh shit blue spooky dude
Cata - oh shit big dragon
Panda - panda
Wod - oh shit into the wowiverse
Legion - oh shit demons again
Bfa - shit
Shadowlands - oh shit death
Dragonfligt - oh shit dragons but good ones
jolly sierra
make us fight in time again but in our timeline
jolly sierra
Classic - run around in that cool rts world
BC - oh shit demons
Wrath - oh shit ...
panda
quaint cedar
panda
surreal barn
With the timeway anomalies you know they’ll have someone escape their timeline into ours
And if it’s someone like a rhonin or medivh that could be kind of cool
wary spire
I wouldn't call it deep or anything, but I really enjoyed the alliance campaign ...
I would've liked bfa more if I was a blue boy. Liked the spooky witch stuff. Trolls and dinos not so much.
jolly sierra
i would fight in an unexplored time after war of the ancients tbh or something close to troll wars
would be fun
quaint cedar
I would've liked bfa more if I was a blue boy. Liked the spooky witch stuff. Tro...
yeah drustvar was so cool. one of the best zones we've had in a long time
surreal barn
Dueling area was fun
jolly sierra
oh
quaint cedar
I got so lucky with sharkbait, got him after only a few dozen runs
jolly sierra
i got the rivendare mount after like 50 trys
jolly sierra
@wary spire dont hide from me
wary spire
panda
jolly sierra
wary spire
Whump whump!
jolly sierra
damn nothing to do
lucid citrus
Nahh you don’t need an MMO mouse
queen geyser
panda
jolly sierra
Nahh you don’t need an MMO mouse
im good w my 2 keys
just trolled a warrior in SS
he said to me SO FKN BAD
he ended 2-4
then i said him "ME WARRIOR ME SMASH"
he replied nothing
lucid citrus
im good w my 2 keys
Same i use Logitech pro wireless which has 4 buttons (2 on each side)
jolly sierra
Same i use Logitech pro wireless which has 4 buttons (2 on each side)
oh my own just has 2 buttons in total in side
is a logitech too
a g203
lucid citrus
Ohh i used to have the that one
jolly sierra
is reilable af
halcyon timber
You’re reliable
jolly sierra
eksdee
twin burrow
How's fire
halcyon timber
No idea man , we are rogues
jolly sierra
got a fucker he opening me trade when i tried to transmog
tell him "u screwed my xmog"
he said "what a shit"
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
where is nzoth non faction toy when i need it
halcyon timber
Being fair, no way for someone to know if you’re transmogging
halcyon timber
Meh potato tomato
jolly sierra
ended the xmog
with the glad tabard
used the sub artifacts, a red scarf, a cloak w blades and some berserking ilussions
never thought glad tabard would fit with something
halcyon timber
Anyone a metal head in here?
New polaris album is out, its pretty good but prob need another few listens to see if it sticks.
jolly sierra
LOOKS GOOD
ty, im going like this for a while instead the slutmog
till i feel coomer enough to reuse it
proven kayak
Btw any high rated assa rbg can u say me what to do in orb map cus I see people pump tons of dmg while I play sub and hit like a wet noodle
Also what talents u use I would see murlokio but I don’t know if information of top 10 is viable now
proven grotto
where do i find info for assassination rogue for pvp
jolly sierra
where do i find info for assassination rogue for pvp
shadenox youtube channel
stoic spruce
I wish we could share bartender setups
jolly sierra
nice
winter seal
We made it
long shore
with the glad tabard
Which season tabard is this?
spark tree
Which season tabard is this?
s1 elite
jolly sierra
SESOOOOOOOOOOO
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
jolly sierra
Which season tabard is this?
crimson gladiator's tabard
swift dove
Hey guys im using gladiusex and was vsing a BM hunter. UI said he had 26 seconds left before he could trinket but he suddenly pressed it and got out of stun. Is there any ability/passive that allows this?
potent pivot
Hey guys im using gladiusex and was vsing a BM hunter. UI said he had 26 seconds...
Nothing allows you to use 2min trinket before the CD is up afaik. If they were Human then it could’ve been their racial?
pale storm
Hey guys im using gladiusex and was vsing a BM hunter. UI said he had 26 seconds...
Who was in his team? Was there a paladin?
languid ravine
New polaris album is out, its pretty good but prob need another few listens to s...
sounds like every other metalcore album ever :3
swift dove
Nothing allows you to use 2min trinket before the CD is up afaik. If they were H...
Turns out i was vsing a human hunter and will to survive wasn’t selected to show in gladiusex @pale storm
pale storm
That’ll do it haha
languid ravine
-> join Katmogu BG
-> become top DPS after 5 seconds
-> another 5 seconds later our team lost
wanton breach
never thought glad tabard would fit with something
just make it fit
like dis
but pvp tabards are usually hard to mog with
languid ravine
Great combination of "vomit green" and "poison purple"!
its a neat mog though
wait I thought this was the transmog channel kek
how did you make that screenshot, addon or website tool?
jolly sierra
like dis
oh it fits well too
ngl w pvp tabards i wont care about full set BS tbh if those are so hard to fit lol
languid ravine
my brain: damn, that was a good dragon race!
dragon race: silver rank, 10 sec slower than personal best
jolly sierra
my brain: damn, that was a good dragon race!
dragon race: silver rank, 10 sec sl...
or the legendary 1 second late dragon race gold
wary spire
Mindgames?
jolly sierra
or a ray of copium hope
languid ravine
yea it was ray of hope)
jolly sierra
i have it tracked when it will give a negative result
so i start kiting or using mitigations
to see if i can delay my death
kek
jolly sierra
i love hpriests ngl
languid ravine
I still got no clue what any of the healers really can do after 10000 rounds of shuffle
except fpr shaman, they can jump off a cliff
jolly sierra
being completely indiferents tho
languid ravine
marksman pressed Rapid fire - you lose
👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
and fucking 1800 healers dont even dispel explosive shot
jolly sierra
languid ravine
and the 1800 fury warrior thinks Demon Hunter is the best target to go for when you play against the clock
wary spire
0 proof
languid ravine
ME SMASH *leaps*
honestly I ve done that quite a few times with a rogue in my team its easy to forget :^D
jolly sierra
honestly I ve done that quite a few times with a rogue in my team its easy to fo...
yeah can do a pass w that sometimes
wary spire
MY EYES ARE SHIT
That could've been anyone.
jolly sierra
but not when the warrior writes in caps how bad u are and then winning the round against them
jolly sierra
OOF
THE END IS NEAR
dammit there are not other streamers to watch and get the drops rn
halcyon timber
and fucking 1800 healers dont even dispel explosive shot
RF is great fun man, completely fine - mm hunters
halcyon timber
THE END IS NEAR
Maybe
wary spire
dammit there are not other streamers to watch and get the drops rn
Can you still get drops if you're banned in their chat?
halcyon timber
Prob not
jolly sierra
Can you still get drops if you're banned in their chat?
dunno
jolly sierra
Can you still get drops if you're banned in their chat?
halcyon timber
Can’t wait for datamining to start so people can blow us up for no reason
rOguEs gOt wUt? REeeEEeeE
jolly sierra
NERF ROGUES
halcyon timber
Dingdingdingding
Hopefully with the start of the new season they just turn off old tier sets so they don’t start nerfing classes for poop reasoning
wary spire
Can’t wait for datamining to start so people can blow us up for no reason
Detect Traps is off the gcd now, the rogue's broken.
halcyon timber
Detect Traps is off the gcd now, the rogue's broken.
Lol saw people griping about sap still too.
Like good lord, come tf off it already.
wary spire
It was nerfed like 2 times already. First the range then the time.
It is also nerfed by solo shuffle.
halcyon timber
“They need to nerf stealth or give everyone stealth” literally an argument i read last night
They already did nerf stealth. The plenty of classes break us out for doing jack crap
shuffle shows rogues don’t do a lot until we do, then we get nerfed. Makes zero sense.
Druid has similar toolkit and hits harder but is fine? Get off the piss already boys.
languid ravine
hey hey there
druids has permanent dots with random damage spikes, not a useless nothing burger like us
such an unfair comparison
halcyon timber
Kek , ignores no armor but can do bites for 200k
pale storm
anyone else find that after logging in today non max level characters can no longer access the BMAH in valdrakken?
halcyon timber
No sir, haven’t noticed
jolly sierra
cmon do something
quaint cedar
So how long do you guys think we'll get to enjoy our "rework" until we get nerfed into the dirt?
Even though rets got to be laughably OP for months
jolly sierra
10.2 ptr
quaint cedar
lmao
quaint cedar
Actual facts
jolly sierra
so we can have time to do our shit
potent pivot
anyone else find that after logging in today non max level characters can no lon...
Pretty sure that’s the intended interaction all expansion
Wasn’t it like that in SL as well? Or am I trippin
halcyon timber
I don’t think it will be ridiculous, retribution did get an actual rework so theirs was deserved on nerfs. We prob wont get tuned unless something is ridiculous
pale storm
I was checking the bmah on levels 60s, level 10s, now after patch only level 70s
also can't interact with the assistant in middle of room for some reason
jolly sierra
ret was extremely bad post nerfs and pre reworks
potent pivot
I swear it’s been like that for a while idk
jolly sierra
i still don't get how i managed to get 1k8 being fully nerfed
cuz u literal have the assa waiting for u to bubble then using deathmark to finish the job
still think than ret post rework is the strongest incarnation overall in pvp
just disgusting
(before being balanced again ofc)
potent pivot
I was checking the bmah on levels 60s, level 10s, now after patch only level 70s
It was changed in SL prepatch to only allow maxed toons
sour charm
Uhhh where is the 10.2 ptr? I need some more copium to make it through
potent pivot
If it was letting you do anything other than that it was prolly a bug or an oversight
pale storm
dang, looks like they changed it then
halcyon timber
Uhhh where is the 10.2 ptr? I need some more copium to make it through
Prob tomorrow or next week.
halcyon timber
still think than ret post rework is the strongest incarnation overall in pvp
They gotta let those zealots be strong man.
jolly sierra
They gotta let those zealots be strong man.
like the guy which got 1k8 w ret in rework calling other people in forums what to do
lol
halcyon timber
bY tHE lIgHT
jolly sierra
lIghT gIVe mE strENgtH
halcyon timber
Punch em in the pp
jolly sierra
or throw them to a fel pool
halcyon timber
Yes sir
weak ether
and i just evisterate everytime i have full cb points until cds for secret tech are up?
halcyon timber
Pretty much, just waiting for gimmicks honestly
Gimmicks and drs then feel out the field for an opportunity
weak ether
is it worth to secret tech with no cds?
over evis
halcyon timber
No sir, pair that bad boy up
weak ether
thx man im very new
halcyon timber
Its cool man hope you’re having a good time at least
weak ether
yea having a blast
weak ether
learned assa first just to find out its b teir
halcyon timber
Subjective, don’t get wrapped around tier lists
weak ether
i mean its not only teir lists, i learned the sub opener and was dumb founded
100 to 0 off an opener
halcyon timber
Yeah until people peel or trade cds
weak ether
yea i see how it can be predictable
also with the season coming to an end soon
should i save conquest/honor or just buy
jolly sierra
ded geim ded geim
halcyon timber
Jajaja
halcyon timber
should i save conquest/honor or just buy
Up to you man but prob just snag conquest as it isnt hard to get. Season prob wont end anytime before blizzcon. Ptr is like 6-8 week’s usually so maybe Oct / mid nov
steep loom
ded geim ded geim
i've been queing solos at the same time as skirms and my solos are popping before skirms. i'm sorry
jolly sierra
i've been queing solos at the same time as skirms and my solos are popping befor...
lucky
wanton breach
have you found any other mogs that ift that tabard
no
teal imp
How do you guys deal with toxic players in shuffle? I did my second shuffle on my new assa and got mixed with 2k players (i had a long break and was never good in pvp) went 1:5 and 1 healer flamed me i should never play pvp. Just turn chat off?
languid ravine
literally do nothing, not worth even reading that nonsense
teal imp
Kinda discouraging tbh. But whatever
Is it normal to face higher people in shuffle ? Like 300-400mmr higher
languid ravine
no that is insane, but blizz thinks its okay
most likely lack of players to fill lobbies means longer queue times means higher tolerance for rating gaps
wary spire
How do you guys deal with toxic players in shuffle? I did my second shuffle on m...
I usually clown on them. Like telling them I'm a veteran who lost both of his arms in Vietnam and now play wow with my tongue. Stuff like that.
They kinda shut up after that, I don't think they're prepared for anything other than "no u".
languid ravine
bonus points if you actually type that out with your tongue
wary spire
Sluuurp
teal imp
Well yeah i shouldnt get butthurt so fast and just q on
proven kayak
How do you guys deal with toxic players in shuffle? I did my second shuffle on m...
Why you even care what a guy from pixels typing to you are you that fragile ? Just don’t mind him and do you
harsh kiln
way to bash on a guy b4 giving advice;)
proven kayak
He is not obligated to also if you getting frustrated at a player lower than you that means that you are insecure
teal imp
Why you even care what a guy from pixels typing to you are you that fragile ? Ju...
Did you read my last message ? U repeazed what i said
proven kayak
I never mind anyone who flames me if I am not intentionally griefing
harsh kiln
i honestly thought you were asking him, that's my bad for reading it wrong @proven kayak
proven kayak
Nah it’s ok bro
finite crescent
Hi all - I'm a r1 shuffle assa rogue and I'm really looking for a fun alt to play. What classes do you guys recommend and why? (Not warrior, ww or mage)
languid ravine
why not mage though
maybe try Survival Hunter, its really fun and has some parrallels to assa
waxen meteor
Hi all - I'm a r1 shuffle assa rogue and I'm really looking for a fun alt to pla...
Ret plays a bit more like rogue as melee in term of resources , but more support; marksman plays more like rogue as range with hit and run
analog crater
Hi all - I'm a r1 shuffle assa rogue and I'm really looking for a fun alt to pla...
As a pally main for almost 17 years, I'll always suggest ret. Yeah it is on the simpler side, but its just fun to pop your wings and go brrr in a general direction and smack the shit out of people. Plus just a ton of lore and backstory and class pride to be had.
waxen meteor
I feel ret resources really like rogue but plays tbh a lot different
languid ravine
yeah, and its about 10x easier to hit the same rating as Ret than assa
waxen meteor
Really focusing on different aspects of a game
analog crater
Plus you have a lot more variety for all forms of content as a paladin
languid ravine
isnt Ret just pump 80k dps out of your ass while having EVERY "fuck you" button in the game?
analog crater
Might be biased myself, but I definitely like to think that ret falls on the "easy to learn, harder to master" category.
languid ravine
nah, press divine shield first global, win instantly
I am not biased btw
purely objective
finite crescent
why not mage though
The reason not mage is because I already alt that and I dislike hunter sadly 🙂
Well guys I think you have sold it to me - I will try ret!
wary spire
Oh no
languid ravine
oh no
wary spire
What have you done
waxen meteor
Haha I dislike how to throw trap too
finite crescent
Hahaha don't worry it is an alt I still play 4 rogues
finite crescent
Haha I dislike how to throw trap too
Far to complex and jittery lol
languid ravine
my main is alt f4
analog crater
I'm currently in the process of trying to get better with ranged classes. I can pick up just about any melee class and learn it pretty quickly and do well, but man do I suck ass with any of the ranged classes in game.
waxen meteor
Yeah
Exactly what I am doing as well
BM is easy one to start with
You don’t worry about too much
analog crater
Haha I dislike how to throw trap too
I fuckin hate the travel time on traps. I miss too damn often because I either send it out a half second too late and they pass it, or too early and they watch where it landed and avoid it lol
harsh kiln
I'm currently in the process of trying to get better with ranged classes. I can ...
i did that with mage, took me one game to delete it and never touch one in a pvp setting again lmao
came to the conclusion im really terrible at it
analog crater
i did that with mage, took me one game to delete it and never touch one in a pvp...
Dude... I was leveling a mage, was absolutely loving it leveling, frost was a lot of fun, the big ass ice shard launching at your enemies was super dope, went into 1 bg at 61, havent touched him since lmao
waxen meteor
I fuckin hate the travel time on traps. I miss too damn often because I either s...
Mostly you will need to throw it with other skills
Like pet stun or better after teammates cc
languid ravine
you guys need to give Mage a chance it is the most fun I ve had in WoW pvp maybe ever, even in this nutty shuffle environment
waxen meteor
Dude... I was leveling a mage, was absolutely loving it leveling, frost was a lo...
Wait till you find a warlock at world leveling
analog crater
It's like free casting is perfectly fine and fun, but as soon as someone even looks in my direction, I feel like I shit the bed crying and sobbing and just die without getting any dmg off lmao
analog crater
Wait till you find a warlock at world leveling
I've actually been leveling a warlock on the side, it's actually been pretty fun too
waxen meteor
It's like free casting is perfectly fine and fun, but as soon as someone even lo...
Yeah
Typical when you swap from melee to caster
Big diff
I am still not comfortable of doing fake cast for kick
And honestly I don’t have an addon to monitor the kicks
Sometimes I don’t even know I got them already
analog crater
I'm currently messing around with a hunter, because at least if I end up just hating life as a ranged spec, I like survival so I can just default back to that so I don't feel like I have wasted my time like with the mage.
waxen meteor
It’s just about to get used to it
analog crater
Think I'm gonna use compstomp to get my hunter and rogue honor capped and see how things play out. I miss rogue.
waxen meteor
Knowing how to play casters help rogue life as well
waxen meteor
Think I'm gonna use compstomp to get my hunter and rogue honor capped and see ho...
I sort of not enjoying hunter at all when I started hunter alt
Sort of forced myself over that period till I am used to it
And I found BM spec is really easy to deal dmg so I can focus on kitting, positioning and cc more
After I got used to it, I am feeling better playing other caster specs
And classes
analog crater
My problem with bm is it can be just so boring to play for the damage part of it
analog crater
Yeah, I just need to buckle down, know thay I'm gonna suck for a bit til I get use to it.
minor cape
are you sure mage dies when someone looks in its direction
i think mage is pretty good at surviving?
analog crater
Think that's been one of the biggest hurdles, im so use to my paladin and know it well, that when I go to the unknown of ranged classes and get my ass stomped, it just makes me wanna say fuck it and go back
analog crater
are you sure mage dies when someone looks in its direction
When I'm playing one, I might as well be made out of wet tissue paper lol
waxen meteor
oh yeah no way anyone is ever outdamaging a destro
Also hunter
minor cape
yeah and hunter
waxen meteor
And don’t have heal like SP boomie
So against casters mage needs to be highly skilled
analog crater
I'm also coming from only ever having done bgs with a caster, which I know isn't the best place to actually learn your spec for pvp.
minor cape
i just can't deal with them as rogue for some reason (l2p issue maybe)
potent pivot
How do you guys deal with toxic players in shuffle? I did my second shuffle on m...
That’s just gaming unfortunately. Always going to have some unsavory characters once in a while.
analog crater
So, I originally came here because I saw a discussion on why people weren't playing rogues, and a lot of people were saying that for them the complexity as a whole in pvp was a major off-putting thing for a lot of the people there. What do you guys think?
I haven't played too heavily on my rogue since cata so can't speak too much myself on how complex it is now, so I was curious
spring bough
How has solo been the last couple weeks? Looks like outlaws have climbed to the 2600s looking good for rogue right now
proven kayak
im rly thinking if i need more than 91% mastery
outside arenas i think inside arena i have 102 or 103%
languid ravine
classic hunter brain: insult tens of thousands of people who play warrior, then proceed to ignore the frost mage in the same round
oh shit now I m doing the same thing to hunters
jolly sierra
i did everything wrong w ret
i was using avenging wrath nerfed af
when i needed to use crusade
all that fkn dmg wasted
but i still can climb w it tho lol
wary spire
Your first mistake was playing ret.
jolly sierra
i went too far already
grave basin
hi all
hows sub this season?
used to main it in SL, not sure how it fairs in this patch
jolly sierra
its ok
wary spire
hows sub this season?
According to the forum - extremely broken.
halcyon timber
I haven't played too heavily on my rogue since cata so can't speak too much myse...
Wouldn’t say complexity per say but its that other classes mosh pit in shuffle and rogues goof off waiting on DRs and team mates continually don’t cc / off heal / los etc. that as a whole makes our job a lot more annoying. You get blamed and then nerfed because cc is too strong though we rely on it.
halcyon timber
According to the forum - extremely broken.
I despise that turd, always has wild things to say.
languid ravine
shadow priest in my lobby is having a GREAT TIME against DH, Fury and Ret :^)
halcyon timber
Buddy gets free and starts teeing off. Void torrent channels for 300k and that’s all he needs
Affliction does that kinda nonsense with oblivion too right? Per dot does x more
Seen some mean af lava bursts lately too from shaman
languid ravine
the games went like "stop it, he's already dead"
halcyon timber
Dh bug reports are like : im not doing top damage!
jolly sierra
According to the forum - extremely broken.
k
yesterday w my monk we had an ele in a shuffle
and an outlaw alongside a wheelchair
imagine the result
now our favorite section in this thread
TIER LISTS
halcyon timber
Tier lists need to die off. Attracts unnecessary attention especially when any rogue is doing well.
stoic spruce
Not only that but they have too many tiers
jolly sierra
they said something interesting anyways
outlaw is using double fang embellishment it seems
looks like a premium feature lol
halcyon timber
I mean, doesn’t take a tier list to figure out what feels solid.
Tier list videos are like watching those cackling witches who sit around gossiping for money on tv.
languid ravine
is that a thing? I need to watch that
waxen meteor
Fuck I am playing all lower ranks
languid ravine
probably went like this:
"you got any clue what any of these specs do?"
"eh whatever just put them all in A"
waxen meteor
well tbh I don’t think it’s a bad list
languid ravine
at least they got balance druid right whoooweee
waxen meteor
There are variance but it’s not so bad
And it even says like SUB is good at higher ratings
Which is real
languid ravine
but how do you get to higher ratings
waxen meteor
And marksman good at lower rating, which is also real, just one shorting people
jolly sierra
fucking dhs
waxen meteor
but how do you get to higher ratings <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
Outplay the plebs
languid ravine
I do that every match and it nets me 2-4 or 3-3 at best
waxen meteor
if you start rookie lobby in 60, you already at 2.1k
My marksman game was like that
Second game at 2.1 when I hardly know my skills
tribal badger
alright back to finish off the season on my rogue
i hit 1.8k back in week 1 and stopped playing my rogue cause law felt like ass 
time to come back and finish the season with gigachad buffed outlaw
and build an entirely new gearset cause apparently everyone stacking full mastery now? is this the way
jolly sierra
pretty standard
stoic spruce
time to come back and finish the season with gigachad buffed outlaw
Lol
Lmao, even.
languid ravine
Breaking News: Breaking News tomorrow!
halcyon timber
Ha
jolly sierra
ohhhhhhhhhh
waxen meteor
13/18 win this week as marksman lol
fossil monolith
???
halcyon timber
You have transcended reality
fossil monolith
real
waxen meteor
Does 10.1.7 bring anything new to PvP at all?
stoic spruce
No
waxen meteor
Run into 2 outlaw rogues in the lobbies today, both didn't have much impact in the game
I guess outlaw indeed need high skills
stoic spruce
theyre useless without comms
but I'll be damned if it aint fun
I hope this suedo-rework will put us in the right direction
wary spire
We're the chad spec now!
stoic spruce
the best feeling in existence
jolly sierra
stars aligned
jolly sierra
ngl dude
i've already seen both
and i really like the trade post one cuz looks way more menacing
stoic spruce
I need this set
analog crater
If they were to do what i would typically call a rework, where they change large sections of the abilities or mechanics for rogue, what would you guys wanna see change?
stoic spruce
My only changes are simple. Have RtB be a lot more lenient with the amount of buffs rolled, never a single buff rolled. And have a burst that doesn't involve shadow dance.
analog crater
i was thinking about that earlier, at this point, why not just get rid of the whole "Requires stealth" part of the abilities that have it and rework them so they are more used in the rogues tool kit and just do something else to replace shadow dance. just a what if, not an actual suggestion
jolly sierra
and that is EZ af, just switch places for blindspot more above in tree
pliant spoke
This is the trader post vs the dagger i sent
i wish the TP dagger was a tad bit smaller.
halcyon timber
If they were to do what i would typically call a rework, where they change large...
1 dance, no cdr, fw more impactful making dance windows (50%+ wod) meaningful by nature, stealth only FW again so it becomes better. Backstab being decent sustain until its time to jam again. No more abilities of an expansion taking over making the core kit feel like side characters.
white gazelle
What’s top comp right now
waxen meteor
If they were to do what i would typically call a rework, where they change large...
For me, sub is overall fine, but needs at least some sustainable dmg, make vanish shield standard for all spec, it doesn’t make any sense you vanish and show up in 3 sec
Assassination design wise is overall okay, just survival and dmg tuning, not a design change. The 3 min CD skill needs to be a lot better
I personally think outlaw does need a rework, many bottoms for similar but different skills, it could be simplified a lot, which fits the overall rework direction that is to simplify and free key-bind.
Slice and dice could be default for rogue in a way
halcyon timber
Prob frost mage / lock / holy paladin .
white gazelle
Prob frost mage / lock / holy paladin .
This a bait? Frost seems strong but not insane
halcyon timber
This a bait? Frost seems strong but not insane
If you can’t touch them and they are good then no.
waxen meteor
1 dance, no cdr, fw more impactful making dance windows (50%+ wod) meaningful by...
Love to see cheap shot and kidney no CDR like old days, but I guess it will not happen 
halcyon timber
Love to see cheap shot and kidney no CDR like old days, but I guess it will not ...
yeah definitely wouldn't fly. people would blow a fuse and we would do like 50 damage at all times due to the outrage.
waxen meteor
If cheapshot doesn’t cdr it actually buffs stealth hit and run and dance
Which is a fun way instead of only doing dmg during dance
halcyon timber
would rather just have decent sustain instead of ding dong ditch nonsense
we are more than likely to get some stuff from legion integrated and if SV from legion is somehow in there, I will pick that 12000 x out of 10.
stoic spruce
I can't wait for tomorrow
halcyon timber
pretty much
white gazelle
Yea I want to hear about the feral Druid leggo to make them giga again
halcyon timber
whatever it is, appreciative of the team working on us when it does come around.
halcyon timber
That the one that refreshes when you move? I haven’t seen that used in a longgg time
jovial dove
Fresh out the gates to PvP and was curious about Elusiveness vs Cheat. Elusive sounds a lot better than Cheat but looking at Murloc Cheat seems to be a lot more popular, just curious about people's thoughts about it here. Also if I run Elusive should I imagine I should pair it with Float if I'm playing Outlaw?
minor cape
Fresh out the gates to PvP and was curious about Elusiveness vs Cheat. Elusive s...
for law its probably elusiveness every single time
it's a choice node - might be just bugged
float is also like a must have talent?
pretty sure, i'm not much of outlaw player
but yeah, elusiveness is just so good for outlaw - makes him thicc
scarlet shell
i have more success with elusive than cheat
in any spec i play.
elusive is extra padding
scarlet shell
yeah that ability is super wonky idk latency?
minor cape
not latency. You can in fact be killed through cheat
so if you cheat and a sub sends a secret tech after you cheat
you will still die
scarlet shell
yeah i have seen that before, very rare
stoic spruce
For druid I bet
wary spire
They have the most specs, so they have a higher probability.
languid ravine
Will I finally get the enchant? I m ultra rusty on Assa too :/
ah fuck it I ll just play DH kek
proven kayak
is dh any fun i have one 70 lvl but didnt did a single solo shuffle with him
languid ravine
I think its very medium in the fun department
but at least all match ups are playable
no bipolar rollercoaster ride
wary spire
Bipolar rollercoaster ride sounds dope actually.
languid ravine
yeah, half the time
halcyon timber
Nope, but if its here then cool.
waxen meteor
We are happy to tell everyone, in 10.2 we will remove a hated class called rogue from game permanently
lucid citrus
It’s probably best to keep our expectations low for any rogue news low since it’s Blizzard
waxen meteor
Jokes aside with the name of the patch, I feel I need to have a druid char now
halcyon timber
Keeping expectations low for anything in life is good. Disappointment doesn’t linger on you as much
stoic spruce
I'm expecting 3 non-specific changes to outlaw. Anything more than that, I will be pleasantly surprised.
halcyon timber
Who knows but it seems bigger than that. Our dude did a lottaaaa work and was very specific with questions too.
Wouldn’t be surprised if more stuff changed.
stoic spruce
Surprised wasn't the right word
halcyon timber
Past few days of discussions may have yielded more changes but who knows
Dunno not surprised by much or expecting much because that only sets ourselves up.
stoic spruce
I'm expecting 3 non-specific changes to outlaw. Anything more than that, I will ...
I will be pleasantly more pleased
halcyon timber
Thankful and expecting are two different mindsets agreed
jolly sierra
preparing the ret for next season
stoic spruce
Make outlaw S tier RAHHHHHHH
halcyon timber
We are thankful for what they did do but shouldn’t expect something ridiculous.
stoic spruce
There are more deserving classes for a real rework
halcyon timber
But its not a rework
stoic spruce
I know
halcyon timber
Its a talent revamp and that was needed
stoic spruce
There are more deserving classes for a real rework
I'm saying there are classes that need a rework more than rogue does.
halcyon timber
Who actually needs a redesign?
stoic spruce
Though I'd argue rogue doesn't even need one
halcyon timber
Abilities etc
stoic spruce
Who actually needs a redesign?
Fdk
jolly sierra
shamans tho
halcyon timber
We are getting talents shifted that’s pretty much it. There is no rework
stoic spruce
We know
stoic spruce
those fuckers are balanced like shit
Maybe a damage redistribution
jolly sierra
Maybe a damage redistribution
agree
stoic spruce
Like unholy got
stoic spruce
Unholy wounds are getting very old in pvp and pve so maybe them too.
halcyon timber
How so?
stoic spruce
No one likes them
jolly sierra
the necrotic wounds easily can take away like 200k in a pop moment
halcyon timber
From a dk pov
stoic spruce
the necrotic wounds easily can take away like 200k in a pop moment
That's apocalypse
jolly sierra
its really obnoxious to face
halcyon timber
Do unholy dks like all that?
jolly sierra
the ones ive faced have done stuff like that
halcyon timber
If they do then mission accomplished
stoic spruce
From a dk pov
Wounds are clunky and necrotic wounds healing is arguably part of why fdk is squishy because when blizzard nerfs an ability, it effects every spec. Deathstrike in this case.
halcyon timber
Hm that stinks
stoic spruce
Do unholy dks like all that?
They nerfed all the cooldowns so all the fun builds are bad.
jolly sierra
btw where are nessper or raz? i wanna ask them if is a good idea to get double fang embelishment in assa lol
languid ravine
theres no way you drop sporecloak
jolly sierra
maybe lurking to avoid misinformation lol
jolly sierra
theres no way you drop sporecloak
i did in a zug match and played fine
but was cuz i was using battlemaster
languid ravine
is battlemaster + fang really better than sporecloak + haste and proc trinket?
jolly sierra
else would be fucked
languid ravine
hard doubt
jolly sierra
tbh
never pick haste proc trink
cuz almost always im the train target
if we get a survivality revamp sure, can take it off
else im sticking w battlemaster
stoic spruce
Is that the health trinket?
languid ravine
on Outlaw you get lots of attack speed and passive bulk to make fang good
I expect it to be much worse on assa IF you are juking a lot more but idk might still be good so where are is the data :^D
halcyon timber
They nerfed all the cooldowns so all the fun builds are bad.
Makes sense
jolly sierra
Is that the health trinket?
ye
well is still irrelevant anyways if we are about to finish the season
tbh if we are no getting info about rogue tree i expect to know about the tier
how the fuck it was never fixed for assa this season
languid ravine
looks kinda shit on my favourite glaives
sour charm
Oh boy, can't wait for next season.
jolly sierra
looks kinda shit on my favourite glaives <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
looks like wod arakkoa swords
funny
sour charm
Imagine, you can experience Shadowmourne TSG and Dream Render TSG at the same time
what a throwback
languid ravine
still waiting for Arakkoa allied race 😦
stoic spruce
ew no
languid ravine
CAW CAW SCREECH
sour charm
stoic spruce
languid ravine
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1699835503795728492?s=20
hell yeah finally I can get my hidden Legion artifact RBG appearance
jolly sierra
CAW CAW SCREECH
CAW CAW KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
narrow tangle
how's assa
jolly sierra
squishy
jolly sierra
https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1699835503795728492?s=20
funny af
sour charm
Rated RBG SoloQue will be great if it has S1 Solo Que inflation
stoic spruce
everyone knows dwarves dont carry flags
sour charm
Only if they bring Magni back to announce it every time
Ideally with a cross server message for everyone, including a voiceline. "X HAS BECOME A CHAMPION OF AZEROTH!"
jolly sierra
100% sure that "limited time" is a experiment time for blizzard
to check if they will add it permanently or not
sour charm
Oh definitely
It will just be very onesided, no way they have rotating teams for RBGs or else you'd be in there for hours at a time
jolly sierra
would be crazy af if is the way to
maybe will be just random
or a custom way to bg
maybe just capping a flag per turns?
sour charm
Ah so the team with the proper tank just wins then?
And every non bear/vdk goes 0 6 by design?
I could see it
stoic spruce
im crying
jolly sierra
glad i got the heirloom from there before closing
sour charm
Time to fire up some Super Hexagon to relive the good memories
waxen meteor
So who’s gonna get the orange weapon?
narrow tangle
when does s eason end
jolly sierra
nobody knows
waxen meteor
Don’t like it myself but could be a good new thing!
lofty panther
teal silo
LOL
marble oasis
Might actually be something pretty good. Just gotta play it and see.
waxen meteor
marble oasis
Think this is the flip compared to arena rbg’s are like a ghost town and this might bring them back
waxen meteor
Rogue and DH rework hmm
I thought DH was just updated prior to DF and it’s quite good
stoic spruce
When will they just let DH rot?
gleaming pawn
Solo RBGs will be a shit show and people will hate it 🙂 no healers are going to queue up for that shit
stoic spruce
With healing being looked at, there's no way to know that.
jolly sierra
quaint cedar
Solo Q BGs! That's interesting
I wonder how the matchmaking will work for that. Like will a tank be required?
Being the team without stealth classes would probably feel bad
jolly sierra
hunters got an absolute awful looking tier as always
quaint cedar
I imagine it will be an equal amount of tanks for both teams
Yeah that's what I would think too, but this is also blizzard lol
This does make me sad though that blizzard killed sap capping bases. That was the most fun part of playing a rogue in BGs
I don't even really bother anymore because you can't do much of anything other than afk at a base
languid ravine
honestly maybe sap capping was too strong :S
maybe finally we can join the zerg like we always wanted to
quaint cedar
Yeah but other melee do that better
surreal barn
Holy shit
scarlet shell
solo q rbgs is gonna be so toxic mark my words
quaint cedar
Even in SL when outlaw was OP it was still the worst rogue spec for RBGs because sub is better at getting or keeping bases, and assa was better at killing priority targets
jolly sierra
time to indiscriminate carnage the entire enemy team as god commands
quaint cedar
Outlaw is useless in RBGs generally
scarlet shell
i like the idea of Solo Q rbgs but they better enforce the hell out of the social contract
stoic spruce
A rogue for team fighting is weird
quaint cedar
Like sure you can team fight with blade flurry but other classes do that better anyways
stoic spruce
The pvp talents had team play in mind
stoic spruce
Lol okay
jolly sierra
in rbgs when i used to go w assa i was usually sent to tfs
i just opened in a guy w carnage garrote then rupture then left
the recount just spiked
scarlet shell
just play sub or assa and single out a random dumb dumb who decided not to follow the pack
jolly sierra
then went to troll their healers
also, it does a mass silence
so was even funnier
quaint cedar
I mean in regular BGs I can pump crazy damage as outlaw by just zugging in team fight. I just don't think that's very useful in a rated environment. You'll just get shut down hard
scarlet shell
3 players is all is needed to take down an outlaw
quaint cedar
Yeah in RBGs you'd be dead in a stun once trinket is gone
jolly sierra
yep
but this will be a zugzug rbg tho
so maybe ppl won't hit u between all in the first place
quaint cedar
Guess we'll see
jolly sierra
maybe we will see a lot of guys doing their own shit
scarlet shell
deathball in the middle, then 3 players will leave the BGs if they are the ones taking the beatings.
quaint cedar
I'm just not optimistic outlaw is going to be useful at all in RBGs and it's the only spec I play so.... yeah
languid ravine
Outlaw is going to be garbage in rbg :^D have fun defending home flag
jolly sierra
oof
steep loom
I only play outlaw in rbgs.
languid ravine
nah maybe itll be fine you can still annoy the heck out of people
quaint cedar
I will say that in team fight the take your cut pvp talent could be nutty
Give everyone near you a ton of haste
That's assuming you can survive though lol
jolly sierra
scarlet shell
sub just gets the job done for me imo
languid ravine
I will say that in team fight the take your cut pvp talent could be nutty
I ve already prepared my roll the bones bot build
steep loom
Yeah idk what u guys are talking about. With mastery stacking, riposte, and 2 evasion no melee wanna touch us.
jolly sierra
don't
jolly sierra
I ve already prepared my roll the bones bot build
we will have a lot of shit switched
don't bother yet
stoic spruce
I ve already prepared my roll the bones bot build
EWWWWWWW
languid ravine
10 COMBO POINTS PER SECOND
quaint cedar
lol
stoic spruce
ER EWWWWWW
jolly sierra
where tf is wellinth to show us his mastermind outlaw build?
quaint cedar
^
quaint cedar
Yeah idk what u guys are talking about. With mastery stacking, riposte, and 2 ev...
Higher rated RBGs are going to be a caster playground
balmy shuttle
I have played outlaw in RBG at 2k mmr (EU) a couple times. Mostly in zerg. DMG and survivability is okayish. The question will always be: why take an outlaw rogue over the busted meta specs. Or over assa in a teamfight. There is no reason to.
steep loom
Yeah, well 1800-1900s still got a good cut of melee in them though.
I mean...my rbg team runs with an outlaw, arcane, survival. And no tank. The games are quite enjoyable lol
jolly sierra
C H A M P I O N A Z E R O T H N E E D S Y O U
quaint cedar
I have played outlaw in RBG at 2k mmr (EU) a couple times. Mostly in zerg. DMG a...
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Outlaw will always be a subpar choice in RBGs unless the design changes significantly. Assa and sub do rogue stuff better than outlaw and other melee do team fights better. There's just no point.
jolly sierra
i wonder
if ppl in solo will get HOTA and HOTH
or will be another shit like legends
stoic spruce
It doesn't need significant changes. Just buff damage and maybe buff Boarding Party and Take Your Cut.
Really dig into the team player archetype
quaint cedar
If we got burst that would help too. So we can take down priority targets
jolly sierra
or maybe will be legend too lol
stoic spruce
Yeah
jolly sierra
cuz is for solo
quaint cedar
I do like the idea of buffing the team oriented pvp talents though. Feels very fitting for outlaw
Boarding party right now is a bit useless
waxen meteor
C H A M P I O N A Z E R O T H N E E D S Y O U
that's a nice title!
stoic spruce
Buff that vial pvp talent too
jolly sierra
that's a nice title!
love it tbh
quaint cedar
Would be cool if it gave freedom to everyone
jolly sierra
very simplistic and original
waxen meteor
I guess it expires every season?
halcyon timber
If we got burst that would help too. So we can take down priority targets
Zero reason for outlaw not to have burst
waxen meteor
that's nice
quaint cedar
Yeah I think every rogue should have a burst. Even if outlaw's is the weakest burst that's fine. Just give us something.
stoic spruce
A burst that's not shadow dance is nice
waxen meteor
so ornage weapon is not for druid
stoic spruce
so ornage weapon is not for druid
No
quaint cedar
I want them to do something with either killing spree or dreadblades
jolly sierra
dfa dfa
quaint cedar
Both are pretty useless right now
stoic spruce
I want flag dreadblades back
jolly sierra
make dfa a class tree option
balmy shuttle
Outlaw would need either overtuned dmg or a gimmick like shadowy duel to be desirable in RBG. Assa is only viable on some maps because it does overtuned aoe burst.
halcyon timber
Get rid of duel
stoic spruce
Yeah
jolly sierra
oof duel always was controvertial af
halcyon timber
Dumbest shit ever is designing us around dumb shit
stoic spruce
Here's an idea. Maybe outlaw doesn't have to do typical rogue stuff?
jolly sierra
and they never rid off the MM mark trick, right?
halcyon timber
Get back to bread and butter rogue
halcyon timber
Stop making dumb shit like sl cov and azerite the main character of our kit
jolly sierra
in shuffle u can troll hard with hunter's mark alongside duel
halcyon timber
Mark nulls it
stoic spruce
When people think of rogues in rbgs they think of capping bases or whatever. But outlaw is clearly not that kind of rogue. It's design oozes teamwork and fighting.
halcyon timber
Immunities remove people from duel too like DS
jolly sierra
wss already fixed?
jolly sierra
Stop making dumb shit like sl cov and azerite the main character of our kit
ah borrowed power fuck it
can accept it in tiers
halcyon timber
I mean duel doesn’t make us immune to stuns like cap totem or whirling dick kick stun
jolly sierra
but not in shit like onyx rings and crap like that
halcyon timber
F borrowed anything
quaint cedar
When people think of rogues in rbgs they think of capping bases or whatever. But...
Yeah I'm down for that. We already have some pvp talents that are based off that idea. They just need to lean into it more.
stoic spruce
Whirling dick lol
jolly sierra
whirling dick kick
halcyon timber
Cool things can exist but they should be supplementary at most
Not hi jack our whole shit
halcyon timber
F azerite
jolly sierra
like a beam
scarlet shell
i like outlaw bc its not a "get in, kill, get out"
it holds its ground and kill the mutineers!!!!
jolly sierra
yeah azerite should never return
quaint cedar
Exactly. On outlaw I just wanna blast people. I don't want to be running away for restealths and shit all the time
quaint cedar
I do like retaining the full rogue kit though. Legion was too extreme
halcyon timber
Was shit
quaint cedar
Agreed
steep loom
I like outlaw cause I feel like I can shift to any roll without any talent/build changes
stoic spruce
Outlaw doesn't benefit from stealth a lot soooo
jolly sierra
fuck class fantasy
halcyon timber
Fuck all that
jolly sierra
that was the worst offense overall
halcyon timber
Pruned rogues for nothing
stoic spruce
Class fantasy gave WoW a lot of depth it needed
halcyon timber
We get gouge back even though dh and monks have it and its a problem
scarlet shell
"captain, this a mutiny!"
"no you" fights everyone, does not hide, and comes out bloodied as the victor
jolly sierra
Class fantasy gave WoW a lot of depth it needed
it struggled a lot in playstyle decissions too
quaint cedar
I'm still mad about what happened to feral. I miss when you used both cat and bear form. Pretty sure I'm in the minority on that though
stoic spruce
it struggled a lot in playstyle decissions too
How so
halcyon timber
Strength of the forest or whatever is just cb from legion that got pruned
stoic spruce
What about gouge
jolly sierra
gouge was awarded just to outlaws for class fantasy
halcyon timber
Gouge never should have been pruned
jolly sierra
in legion
stoic spruce
Sub does not need another CC.
waxen meteor
We get gouge back even though dh and monks have it and its a problem
And their gauge is range gauge btw 🙂
stoic spruce
Re-prune gouge
halcyon timber
No sir
scarlet shell
look yeah class fantasy is S tier idc what anyone says
scarlet shell
i dont want every melee and caster to be the same
stoic spruce
I'd sacrifice outlaw burst if it meant sub lost gouge
jolly sierra
i hate class fantasy tbh cuz it fucked up a lot of they toolkit to make it fit in it
quaint cedar
I still think outlaw should have been compensated for all the shit the other specs got from us. Acro and gouge in particular.
jolly sierra
garrote, taken out and given to assa
stoic spruce
I still think outlaw should have been compensated for all the shit the other spe...
Disarm in SL
jolly sierra
shadow blades, taken out given to sub
quaint cedar
Sub does everything outlaw does but better
halcyon timber
Acro should be outlaw only
quaint cedar
Oh yeah disarm too
jolly sierra
disarm, only awarded to outlaw
halcyon timber
Dismantle was a rogue thing forever
Bomb should be baseline like the old days too
jolly sierra
outlaw had a very good toolkit for cc in bfa
halcyon timber
Ok but everyone has cc
stoic spruce
Yes
jolly sierra
don't think so
halcyon timber
Tell a dh who has 3 stuns and doesnt rely on them , gouge , and a fear that
scarlet shell
the pvp cloak of shadows is stupid overpowered
quaint cedar
Yeah
scarlet shell
its so cheap how do you fight it
quaint cedar
It shouldn't give dodge
halcyon timber
Tell a dk who has ape aoe blind on a 1.5 min cd that doesn’t break to damage
jolly sierra
its funny af to counter too
stoic spruce
You can shadow step kidney it
quaint cedar
Just the bleed removal is plenty
jolly sierra
warrs can just storm bolt
scarlet shell
why did it remove bleeds lmao its just an f u to warrs and ferals
scarlet shell
i win fights i should be grinded to dust
stoic spruce
First off those furry feral FREAKS don't deserve nice things.
quaint cedar
Tbf warriors generally have it pretty good
halcyon timber
But yeah removal w veil is fine
jolly sierra
veil is good af for assa mirror matches
halcyon timber
F druids anyway
halcyon timber
Well dm might get 2 mechanics now
scarlet shell
ferals are cringe but sometimes i feel bad for the rogue rip offs
halcyon timber
Our boy talked about that a few days ago
jolly sierra
but this shit is making me very impatient
quaint cedar
I have this terrible habit of using cloak on dumb shit whenever I fight assa and then I feel like the biggest idiot when I get deathmarked and have nothing
halcyon timber
Its just a mark
Then can be reapplied anyway
Assassin should get that mechanic asap
jolly sierra
I have this terrible habit of using cloak on dumb shit whenever I fight assa and...
for me i was spared in a SS match as assa cuz i was about to die and then got back my veil cloak CD and won the round
against a warr and a ret
but yeah
with both ferals and assa
halcyon timber
Gonna watch this vid and brb boys @quaint cedar caught me up a little since ive been in school all day
jolly sierra
u have to hold it more
stoic spruce
I will say
My favorite part about shuffle is how people think I make a good kill target since I'm outlaw.
jolly sierra
PUNY ROGUE DIES RAAAAAAAAAAAAH
quaint cedar
Yeah. I think it's just that I never fight assa anymore so whenever I do I forget about holding cloak for deathmark
stoic spruce
RAHHHHH
quaint cedar
You guys all went extinct after 10.1
scarlet shell
my SS lobby beaten up an assa once
jolly sierra
i know
scarlet shell
one lonely assa player
jolly sierra
only loyalists stayed
quaint cedar
Good on you. I wish more people stuck it out with their specs instead of just rerolling
I just play outlaw, whether it's good or bad
scarlet shell
everyones reroller, if everyones an assa we gonna see alot of Dark Irons.
mole machine jumpscare
stoic spruce
Outlaw is fun even when it does tank levels of damage. That's good spec design.
quaint cedar
^^^
I love outlaw so much. Even at it's absolute worst this expansion I still preferred it to any other spec.
scarlet shell
outlaw will always be my fav but i had to jump ships this season for Sub
stoic spruce
After what they did to unholy, I'm on the same page. I always played Outlaw and loved it but now with these new talents, I think I'll just completely main Outlaw now. Just get 1800 on my dk and then use him to tank mythics.
jolly sierra
everyones reroller, if everyones an assa we gonna see alot of Dark Irons.
like in S1
stoic spruce
I'd argue it was stronger than launch dk