pvp

[halcyon timber]

Yeah i have zero weight on that but shit is cool

Outlaw def can smack hard lately

Seen some dudes do like 65k repeated pistol shots, and 90 dispatches

[stoic spruce]

Shadow Dance as your burst is so Zzzz

[halcyon timber]

Saw one thrash the crap out of a warrior in the caverns today as i was snagging herbs for my potions

[stoic spruce]

my stealth action bar looks so weird now lol

[halcyon timber]

He did talk about ghostly possibly being replaced or removed

[stoic spruce]

Ooooo

thatd be cool

[halcyon timber]

Id think dreadblades might turn to an actual death sentence too

[stoic spruce]

thatd be hot

[halcyon timber]

Sad to see killing spree stink and become a defensive

Not like blade dance is one for demon humpers

[stoic spruce]

lol demon humpers

[halcyon timber]

Can’t stand those rats

[stoic spruce]

same

[languid ravine]

I think it needs two things:
A: a REAL single target build that is not energy starved after 20 seconds if you want to really tunnel something
and or B: a button that speeds up your ramping time, think of like Shadow Priest throwing their grenade and applying their VampTouch/ShadowordPain

[halcyon timber]

Love illidan, hate them

Cocky arrogant turds usually are dhs

[stoic spruce]

yeah I'd like that

[stoic spruce]

so true

[halcyon timber]

You’re on to something black

Tea needs to go or be nerfed to 1 charge for sure and sf go back to assassins

Id take dfa as well but pve kids blew a gasket about it the other day

[marble oasis]

by assa feeling off. as in a lackluster sorta way. or lack of finishing sorta way?

Like you can't kill anyone or like you're just really slow clunky?

[stoic spruce]

ye

slow and clunky my b

[languid ravine]

I just had a Divine Revelation on the toilet

[cursive umbra]

we happy they buffed ele?

650k in 0.3

[languid ravine]

New Ass Rogue Talent:
-Cheap Shot, Ambush and Garrote from stealth causes your next Rupture to also apply Garrote for X seconds to your target

[languid ravine]

Developers’ notes: We're adjusting some of Elemental's damage away from Flame Shock and into instant damage spells to improve the spec's finishing power, which has been lacking this season.

kek

[halcyon timber]

They love griping about cc too but rarely use any of it

Just like spamming damage

[languid ravine]

well those 650k woould have been 580k before patch so idk

[halcyon timber]

Good lord

[languid ravine]

please some Dev write this down I ll never in my life have a better idea than this one ever

[marble oasis]

Ye nature of it’s design. Slower more planned playstyle.
Pretty much gotta think of yourself as a melee affliction lock. And with the single target build you’ve gotta get ruptures up for the energy regen.
Its a very odd way to play given the other rogue specs.

It’s very much in a rot them dead sorta state since the nerfs in season 1

[marble oasis]

Could just rework imp garrote to something like this honestly

Instead of it being boring damage amp. Only.
But has that added text for cheap and ambush

[languid ravine]

my suggestion would remove one of the 12 buttons you press in opener, at the same time give synergy with like the zoldyck side

[halcyon timber]

Def a fan of choice nodes

[languid ravine]

and you can combo it with like subterfuge or some werid shit

[halcyon timber]

Hope to see stuff like that too

[languid ravine]

hypothetically

[marble oasis]

As it is applied to the target as Garrote and imp garrote so wouldn’t be too hard i don’t think if cheap and ambush also trigged that amp garrote

[languid ravine]

you could even like give up to 3 stacks so you garrote three guys and the next three ruptues give mini garrotes to another 3 guys

or give mini garrote duration on the same 3 guys

[halcyon timber]

How dare you think of something cool

[marble oasis]

My only concern with going too heavy on bleed stuff.
There are TONS of stuff that removes them now
So i’d argue more damage needs to be placed into poisons.
Maybe shifting the imp garrote part to a poison of some kind just to split our damage schools

[halcyon timber]

Assassination will probably have more talents to speed it up in diff ways id imagine

[tawny kestrel]

its an awful idea

u just gonna overwrite ur empowered garrotes or what

[marble oasis]

Raz you’re looking at it with how it is currently designed.

We’re concepting

[languid ravine]

it might even be full duration and just be an empowered garrote itself

let the math hacks figure that shit out

you d then have 4 bleeds up instead of 3 bleeds after 3 gcds

[cursive umbra]

not sure how the math works with volcanic surge works where they got 10% increase on lava burst, but they also got 12% flat to lava burst? isnt that more like 530k before patch?

not saying it didnt hit hard, but adding 120k is game breaking

[stoic spruce]

sure but theres a difference between "afflock" style gameplay and feeling like something is missing or whatever.

and the afflock gameplay is happenstance

[marble oasis]

Well that something missing is our way to speed up the dots or giving us proper improved garrote back after they absolutely gutted it.

[stoic spruce]

rip

[marble oasis]

Exsang used to be that till it was giga nerfed

[languid ravine]

rip 45 sec exsang

[marble oasis]

Exsang used to be as strong as secret tech.
But due to pve it was over nerfed

[languid ravine]

but tbh it wasnt very fun anyways

maybe its more interesting as a big CD (if it would even hurt)

[marble oasis]

Oh no it’s not fun at all. I’d argue neither is Secret tech considering you don’t see 4/5th of the damage.

But it’s pretty fun seeing people with a debuff bar the size of the sun and watching them flail around after you exsang all of it. 😈

[languid ravine]

tee hee

[stoic spruce]

killing in a kidney shot would be fine if we didnt have smoke bomb

Maybe not. I just ate.

[minor cape]

how's that related

bomb is control on healer 🤪

so killing a guy in a kidney while healer is controlled with a bomb is not okay but killing a guy while healer is controlled with a blind is okay

🤔

anyway i'm all for killing in a kidney

[marble oasis]

I think rogues should just delete healers

[stoic spruce]

Because kidneying someone in a smoke bomb means they can't be healed.

[minor cape]

same with blind

idk, i use bomb more as a force trinket tool

[stoic spruce]

But there's no intervene in a smoke bomb

[minor cape]

cause you can force two trinkets at once with a bomb

which is pretty cool

[languid ravine]

I use smoke like a mindcontrol death grip so I can gouge the healer

without having to move

[minor cape]

i thought everyone does

like bomb kidney target wait for healer to come close and gouge

🤪

[languid ravine]

1100 Prot vs 1900 Prot, place your bets now

[rotund fulcrum]

1100 prot

💯

[languid ravine]

correct

and the 70 IQ unholy facetanking fury, windwalker and DH every round goes unpunished

didnt even take the phys reduce talent

XD

[stoic spruce]

then who was the target? lol

oh I was thinking of prot warr

[halcyon timber]

Standard procedure, plate being dumb af . thEy nEed tO rEwOrK aRmoR

[fading blade]

ya how is sin after the buff?

[dusky quartz]

nothing changed

[surreal barn]

How are DHs and warriors

[fading blade]

not even a bit noticable in pvp?

[untold remnant]

An assa lobby VS. Fury, arms, ww, holy pala and MW ended in 4 wins for both the warriors. Massive damage, but both ww and assa take huge from them

[dusky quartz]

i mean its 5% not that big of a deal and assa problems in general are not related to dmg in ss so its w/e ( i mean yea a bit of dmg buff will ofc help)

probably wait for the 10.2 tuning at this point

[wise breach]

I mean it's noticeable, I'm doing good damage, but it doesn't feel any different, it's still just Garrote and Rupture dominating the damage breakdown with low burst and playing the damp game.

With that said, I like that playstyle, so I'm happy enough on the offensive end

[languid ravine]

you need to play Sassy Rogue like a caster

and some lobbies for some reason let you freecast while those fools melt

also whats up with blood dks pumping 50k+ deeps every round

[jolly sierra]

blood dks? wtf

[languid ravine]

I ve never once in my life done 50k dps on Outlaw

[jolly sierra]

w that said i expect flarkness doing BS w dk in SS

[languid ravine]

okay fake news my meter is bugged

[jolly sierra]

ah

[languid ravine]

its more like 30ish plus minus

[jolly sierra]

ah gotcha

still decent dmg tho

[halcyon timber]

Waiting for the next caster propaganda where they all get 15% buffs because of dh for some reason

[waxen meteor]

yeah blood dk does good dmg

i dont know much about them and it's still rare

but they do good

not like tank dmg at all

[halcyon timber]

A bit silly for sure

Pepperidge farm remembers when blood was a damage dealer and frost was a tank

[jolly sierra]

the funniest thing in SS for me at least was a bear pretending to be a dps and losing every round then later

[halcyon timber]

Yeah rated skirmish is weird when tanks are there xD

Not really sure what is going on when a guardian is there. They don’t clone anything. They just mosh pit a lot.

Watched almost every tank get absolutely crushed by mm in bgs so far.

3 matches had 6 to 7 mm in a row haha. People were not happy .

[gleaming pawn]

they are holding back the tide of all the warlocks, so I'd be ok with that

most of them are so bad, if they can't get their camo > 1 shot off, they are useles

[halcyon timber]

Natural predators of classes is good

No one should be weak , I don’t get that npc mentality of the forums

Lately, lots of ridiculous propaganda about make rapid fire and aimed shot do less damage to cloth . Makes zero sense .

[long shore]

Hey guys, is kidney 5 seconds or 6 seconds in pvp?

[halcyon timber]

5 my good sir

[long shore]

The tooltip shows 6. So I guess they changed it?

[halcyon timber]

Yep was apart of all the cc changes a few patches ago

Same w blind and sap

5s

[long shore]

Damn, I guess cheapshot is pretty OP since it’s a unnerf 4 seconds then

[halcyon timber]

Wouldn’t say its op as rogues depend on stunning

Not like 2005 when cheap and kidney didn’t dr each other for whatever reason

[wary spire]

If I had to choose one thing to bring back it would be breath of the dying from bfa, lol.

[halcyon timber]

Fat hateful mutilates

[wary spire]

Bfa assa was eating good.

That shield protecting restealths...

[jolly sierra]

lord @cobalt pewter i have a doubt, should i pick hurricane or unhinged in that capstone considering bladestorm buff?

(lets see how warr is going in EU lol)

[cobalt pewter]

unhinged is dead

hurricane okay but it makes it so u cant cancel bladestorm

[jolly sierra]

kk

what about warbringer and blunt instruments?

[jolly sierra]

WTB fleshcraft for assa

[stoic spruce]

that stealth absorb from SL was so nice

[jolly sierra]

sadly was only given for sub and now they even doesn't use it

and yeah, i know its nerfed to work only w vanish

[halcyon timber]

Also is affected heavily by dampening

[teal silo]

is this dps normal for outlul?

[halcyon timber]

Its the lobby

Everyone is pve’ing in there

[teal silo]

I won that round but spammed cc

Im half geared btw

[rotund fulcrum]

Double melee should give you some blade flurry pad 😮

[halcyon timber]

Nice to see observer cant be ccd anymore

[jolly sierra]

i have not seen any caster besides an ele today

by far i've seen more dhs

huh? what is this?

[fathom dew]

Looks like two monks and a rogue

[jolly sierra]

ye

[halcyon timber]

Grapple weapon spree

[waxen meteor]

DH dps is quite high now

[halcyon timber]

Yeah and incredibly high time on metamorphosis it seems

[waxen meteor]

It's super high even on long game

then i was looking at my little sub rogue

[jolly sierra]

lost that match

cuz the guys didn't reacted to the fucking hunter and rog

and i got obliterated cuz i just used die by the sword

F

[waxen meteor]

Priest set doesn't look that good as i thought

[stoic spruce]

Because it doesn't belong to priests :)

[jolly sierra]

that looks like a set for a paladin

[stoic spruce]

Correcto

[jolly sierra]

dh ended 6-0

im done for today w warr pushing

won 60 cr anyways

[halcyon timber]

dH neEdS hElP pApPa bLizZy

The return of rogues is coming to put those winged rats in their place

[surreal barn]

Brutal

[jolly sierra]

crazy af

[waxen meteor]

ok, two lobbies with casters, 5-1 5-1 done

all chars elite unlocked, can't believe main last

[jolly sierra]

gratz

finally

[waxen meteor]

god i hate melee blend in solo with rogue

they do nothing just zug zug zug

and ruin stun dr with 1 sec stun

it's funny last game, the warlock said in team 'you are winning all 5 rounds for them, you know that right?'

then i tried to be humble and said thanks

then he died in 10 seconds

i thought it would be an easy 60

[jolly sierra]

OOF

dude im thinking in requeuing for midnight

just to catch the sleepy players for what happened today w fucking DH

[waxen meteor]

DH is doing 60K dps whole day

[jolly sierra]

fucking dhs are even worse than warriors

think they overbuffed them with ununterruptable eye beam

oooohhhh

[marble oasis]

Yup. i called it on tuesday. wow -16% dam nerf but now can't stop the other 80% of it >.<

[jolly sierra]

i wanna see the forums

about how they complain about dhs

[waxen meteor]

i think the real buff is other dmg

eye beam is not the killer anymore

i feel lots of DHs are actually shifting away from eyebeam talents

[jolly sierra]

lemme see

ye balanced

[waxen meteor]

Chaos Strike/Annihilation is like evis for us

Soulrend dmg also increased

Essence break too..

[jolly sierra]

absurd

that shit was the reason they were nerfed in 1st place

[wary spire]

Are they doing it to "shake up the meta" to nerf them back 2 weeks later?

[marble oasis]

Who knows. But it does seem that way as some of the buffs make little sense outside of that.

[wary spire]

It's the second time they overbuff classes at the end of the season.

[marble oasis]

Blizzard fairies how about a little bit of damage buffing to compensate for the rework. 😉

So uhm 😂

[jolly sierra]

so, is this DH colossus smash?

[jolly sierra]

accurate

[marble oasis]

Just casually 50% more dam than anyone else

[jolly sierra]

hmmmmmm

well i already know what to track now to disarm lol

or when to run

[wary spire]

Don't they have a way to get rid of disarm pretty easily?

[jolly sierra]

the backflip?

[wary spire]

Ye

[halcyon timber]

And the smoke people in a sigil because that works like warrior intimidating shout

[waxen meteor]

DH is not impacted by disarm that much like us

Can eye beam or throw blade or any sigil

[jolly sierra]

shit

well, im picking execute charge against them then

[gleaming pawn]

with all these DH and Warriors running around, maybe wait to push until the day before reset when there's more casuals trying to get games in for their vault 🙂

[halcyon timber]

Yeah its just warriors / rets / dh training people down

Heavy consistent ass hits constantly

And yes dh can use glimpse and do vengeful retreat and get their weapon back.

Monk gets locked out of some stuff but not much as well. FOF and their wind fist of doom or whatever it is called requires a weapon

Locked them out of karma a while ago, don’t think that is still a thing

[nova viper]

someone have change list?

[jolly sierra]

i use monk

and i dont think they needs wep to do strike of the windlord

but can confirm for FoF

[jolly sierra]

i fucking hate matches w sore losers

a guy lost a lot so he used cocoon at start for no reason

[broken otter]

So, 2set for Assassination still breaks stealth, huh?

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-17998277

[jolly sierra]

yes

[broken otter]

sad trumpet noise

I wish there was a way to de-convert my tier pieces lol

I get conquest at a trickle (casual nonrated player) and I've got 3/4 set atm

[jolly sierra]

i wanna a way to get my sparks back

[broken otter]

So, why does Goblin Gliders break stealth when I'm Sin, but not as Sub (in BGs)?

[potent pivot]

probably some jank interaction with subterfuge

if i had to guess

[broken otter]

Hmm. I do have subterfuge on Sub and not Sin

Could be it

[jolly sierra]

subterfuge allows u to even HS in stealth

[pearl warren]

subterfuge lets you start casting abilities while in stealth without breaking it (ex. mounting or the dismount nets)

but once you complete the cast stealth will break

[broken otter]

I was wondering why I could suddenly mount/hearth from Stealth. Didn't think that it was swapping to Subterfuge.

Neat.

[pearl warren]

allows for a lot of instant cast toys/consumables to not break stealth

in shadowlands i abused it by vanish soul shaping

the blink wouldn’t break stealth but the initial soul shape cast would

so if you vanished first you could just blink around in stealth

[broken otter]

Hahaha, that's dope.

[halcyon timber]

Yep tools of our trade spongebob me boy

Can’t wait for 10.2 man jeeze

[jolly sierra]

i recall doing fleshcraft w vanish too in SL

[pearl warren]

yeah but any cast you start during the 2s of empowered vanish won’t break stealth

as long as it isn’t a rogue ability that by default; breaks stealth

dwarf is my current favorite

(no backlash from dispelling ua or vt)

[winter seal]

Blind removes dots gouge doesn’t

[jolly sierra]

got a guy which said

"why im in a 1k8 stuck lobby ah nvm playing w ai" and left

dammit i would wish to don't be in his team, ended losing rating xddd

was the healer

last one

if is a guy whining or a 3-3 im done for today

BTW

shams doesn't know how to purge in 1k8 SS matches

[wanton breach]

that's not the usual response to seeing a panda

[jolly sierra]

think that is for fems

[karmic summit]

Is kingsbane useful in pvp for assa?

[rotund fulcrum]

Don’t think kingsbane is useful in wow for assa in general 😣

[jolly sierra]

nope

[karmic summit]

F

[jolly sierra]

once i was using a noblegarden rob w panda and a guy said i was turning him on

wtf

[wanton breach]

apparently there are a lot of furries?

[jolly sierra]

closet ones tho

the guy was an undead lol

[stoic spruce]

Can you rework dk?

Plzzzz

[teal silo]

fun time I had on my ww

enhanc behind pillar with holy priest

has bop

priest doesnt dispell so I can stop him and burst behind pillar

kept running like a headless chicken

[thick slate]

Bro rogue rework when

Every melee got giga buffed except rogue

[untold remnant]

Anyone enjoing assa rogue? Probably the spec that needs most reworks

[rotund fulcrum]

I am fond of assa because it’s the first rogue spec I learned 🥺

I’m a pve andy this season tho for the most part

[jolly sierra]

wat

[jolly sierra]

didnt played yet

btw nice game the one from some hours ago

never thought i would be obliterated through all my defensives in all rounds xdd

[languid ravine]

I ve just spent around 90 seconds in Cyclone, polymorph, lasso, bash and ring and still won

then some guy decides to leave after 5 rounds :^)

idk its not technically sabotage you do get penalized for it anyways

[jolly sierra]

fan of knives?

i use it when ppl disarms me

or when somebody uses evasion

[jolly sierra]

genuine sabotage happened to me yesterday

with a sore loser MW monk which pulled all his cds before gates opening

did it like 3 times in a row

[untold remnant]

Yeh.. that was rough for you man 😦

[proven kayak]

I miss from game like 2 months do people can make more shadowcrwfted items cuz I see most of good players run 4 but only 2 got embolishments

Is this stat wise ?

[jolly sierra]

don't worry, i know is not normal dying like that, but u were pretty chill, so was ok lol

i use 2 in both dps

and tend to gouge the healer a lot

im not renewing amazon prime this month

i already have this one

from BMAH

[untold remnant]

Ye, first time I ran into you. That was fun 🙂 playing a game on the DH alt. Now I'm on MM hunter. Just got a 6-0 lobby 😄 afraid to go back to sub for the 2.1 - 2.4 push

[proven field]

my complete idiot spec so far - I actually kinda love it... timing sepsis to reset full push garrote feels good and I am getting 120-140k kingsbane hits

I know I am 500 miles from meta, but the research must continue

[stoic spruce]

Don't ever apologize for science

[languid ravine]

If you put on your Nostalgia/Exclusivity blocking Sunglasses, its actually a fairly ugly pixelated mess of a tabard

[stoic spruce]

Big cope

Black and white goes hard

[languid ravine]

Tuskarr tabard for life

we fishin'

[stoic spruce]

So true bestie

[languid ravine]

I guess it DOES own black/white niche

[jolly sierra]

yesterday got a lobby with TWO MM

[stoic spruce]

Also the time rift scourge tabard goes insanely hard

[jolly sierra]

imagine how awake i needed to be to keep myself alive

[jolly sierra]

it has the pixels of a t3

[languid ravine]

honestly not terrible for 15 years old asset but yeah :^D

[jolly sierra]

wod assets seems decent as min

but behind that besides CM

no no

[wary spire]

Too bad cata had the best mask.

[languid ravine]

my favourite is actually the monk mask from Siege of Smorgrimmar

not the red version but the other two are bis

[jolly sierra]

i hope t3 mask goes updated, that is my favourite overall

[untold remnant]

On war or rogue?

[jolly sierra]

warr, wasn't so tough compared to DHs, but my partners were pretty unaware tho

[halcyon timber]

F the meta anyway.

[gleaming pawn]

more power to you if you're able to get it to work. It's just that Kingsbane is so easy to stop and it's a 1-trick spec so once you blow your load and KB is handled, you're done

[languid ravine]

feels like I queued for 3 hours and played for 15 minutes today

but couldve been 20 minutes, who really knows

[stoic spruce]

everytime I think about that after queuing solo shuffle, I switch to Palia.

[jolly sierra]

the problem w KB as seijuro said is that, some of us used kingsbane in prepatch but just because was the only capstone available

however could consider it if in rework realz give us more capstones and options

rog capstones are the most narrowed tho

[halcyon timber]

With the reduction in power / shifted costs. Definitely see the rogue developer team making more paths and additional talents. Anyone here speak mage? How did they do their split and such for talents ?

Translate mage pre and post redesign into rogue language is kinda what im getting at.

[jolly sierra]

demolishing throw is juicy af against locks

got a mage with glad mount from SL as frost

the guy was deleted hard by a dk and a priest

he left shortly after that

[jolly sierra]

question, how i make weakauras count stacks from something? i can only count an exact amount in my knowledge lol

[gleaming pawn]

stack of what

[jolly sierra]

anything

a buff

maybe

[gleaming pawn]

do you want the icon to glow when you reach X stacks, or play a sound, that kind of thing?

basically there is 2 ways to set it up. You can create a trigger for the specific stack count. Or you can create a condition on the basic trigger that when the desired stack count is reached, Z effect happens

[jolly sierra]

just wanna put a 2 in the icon

[gleaming pawn]

ok, mostly still easy but needing a bit more info

do you have a single trigger for a CD, or is it a multi-trigger like t1 is the ability buff and t2 is the ability CD

[languid ravine]

on "display" section (should be the second category) add text and have it say "%s"

you can change font size colour and position etc

[jolly sierra]

here?

[gleaming pawn]

you're looking at Trigger, you want the Display tab

[jolly sierra]

lemme see

oh it worked lol ty

[languid ravine]

I ve had a Beastmaster and a Marksman with Snipershot in my lobby

guess which one used WASD keys more

[surreal barn]

If you’re trying to imply sniper shot is a bad choice you’re wrong there

[languid ravine]

yeah its kind of a bad choice though even against a mediocre amount of ccs

anyways this particular beastmaster did not move during any of the rounds

xd

he just waddled into the center of the arena and stood there doing his thing

[surreal barn]

Sniper is 20% + mastery it can absolutely destroy

I’ve seen one mm swap to heals and accidentally kill a healer. I’d definitely consider swapping it out vs certain comps though

[marble oasis]

honestly probably a bot. sounds like they finally got the bot to move out of the starting area....

[jolly sierra]

lol players arrived to wow

[spring bough]

Spriest or fury war to level and mess around with in dungeons lol

Also thinking demo lock too maybe lol

[jolly sierra]

tf is wrong today w arenas in eu

constantly getting a 3 digit rating guy which just lose every time but win 1

fuck it im going ret

and ill burst that guy every fkn time

[marble oasis]

ok yeh warrior damage is uhm yeh

probably another bot wave...

all those macro rotation banned people getting back up to 2k+ rating with another one i guess

[jolly sierra]

today i had a very bad streak w warr

w that guys at 1k8 lobbies having barely 800 CR

so im getting ret to try to defend them and fkn kill them later

[languid ravine]

same I went like 7-14 the last 3 games on my surv

and I swear to god I was by far the best player in all of them

but when you stun mage, kick mage, and blind mage and your mate still dies after 12 sec what do you even do

[stoic spruce]

Need to buff outlaw to put these warriors and hunters back in their place

[jolly sierra]

just go zug this week

either dh or ret

[stoic spruce]

See this dirt? That's where you are. See the top of that mountain? That's me.

[languid ravine]

Just play Survival, their blade rush deals like 80k damage :^D

and you can shoot Sinister Strikes at 43 yards

and Gouge has like 20 yards range too

[jolly sierra]

question

how mass dispell does work?

its a selected area?

or just casted?

[marble oasis]

cursor

[jolly sierra]

damn

[languid ravine]

I m have reached lobby levels where my chances of victory WOULD BE BETTER if my teammate went afk completely

absolutely disgusting

[jolly sierra]

yeah matches are ass today in EU

[waxen meteor]

Selected area

You could use cursor macro like all area skill though

[fading blade]

whats the easiest class to hit 2.1 in ss

[jolly sierra]

ret, but im having problems now lol

[waxen meteor]

Probably DH atm

[jolly sierra]

or dh

its overtuned

[waxen meteor]

You don’t necessarily have to do a lot of skill moves

1.8 - 2.1 is partial skill partial zug zug

And you have dominated dmg in zugzug

[jolly sierra]

got assblasted by a dk in 1k9 mmr lobby

the guy hitted like a truck

all fkn time

[languid ravine]

Ele sham might be another one, no kappa

[waxen meteor]

Ele is trained 247

[languid ravine]

I ve also managed to go 2k on frost mage after like 3 weeks of playing it

[jolly sierra]

in other one got insta dispelled in every round

[fading blade]

i might try MM/bm

[languid ravine]

if you are experienceed frost it should be a such a breeze

[waxen meteor]

BM is fairly easy

I reached 1800 as alt with limited gear

Only a few games played

[languid ravine]

dno I think BM is the worst hunter spec and also the least fun

[waxen meteor]

Yeah it’s not that fun tbh

[languid ravine]

its not even easy like it used to

[waxen meteor]

But it’s starting point to learn hunter

[languid ravine]

you gotta do barbed shot EXACTLY every 7 seconds man

what is this shit

[waxen meteor]

I don’t play survival hunter anyway it’s not like a hunter just a melee

Marksman is too defaulted trained

I am not that familiar with that class yet

[waxen meteor]

And watch out for globals

[jolly sierra]

alright this is fucked up

[jolly sierra]

ended 4-2

im done this week w ret

[halcyon timber]

THE AGE OF BLADES IS NIGH

[jolly sierra]

playing hardcore and already checked a dead guy

good shit lol

[halcyon timber]

Lol dang

[jolly sierra]

playing rog btw

[halcyon timber]

Bring that up in the pve channel and they will have diarrhea

Whattya mean pressing core abilities is fun? There were no gimmicks to meme wif dooood.

[jolly sierra]

kek

heh got stealth

[halcyon timber]

Man trying not to get my hopes up

Forums are absolutely a mess w rogue stuff in our pocket lately too

[jolly sierra]

when it isn't

[gleaming pawn]

you mean for the rogue update coming in 10.2?

[halcyon timber]

Yeh

[gleaming pawn]

it's truly best not to get your hopes up

while we don't know specific details, Realz has been pretty up front on what the breadth of this update will have for us

not Realz speaking, because his points are spread all over. But Whispyr summed it up well enough

[halcyon timber]

Yeah stuff won’t change drastically but moving stuff around and a few new talents would be great

[jolly sierra]

shit

[halcyon timber]

Ive been keeping an eye and jump in sometimes

I like keystones and shit too , just haven’t cared too much since my group split after SL nonsense

[waxen meteor]

Sin for aoe?

[waxen meteor]

I feel outlaw is a bit like ret before rework a lot of skills that do similar things

[jolly sierra]

got a green dagger

heh

[proven field]

ok research update

ran my terrible spec in RBGs

honestly it kinda slapped their VDH relentlessly

being able to re-roll 2 extra silenced garrotes from the sepsis procs on his pocket healers felt so good

[waxen meteor]

This one?

[proven field]

that very one

dont judge me 😦

[waxen meteor]

I feel it’s almost mandatory to have the slice and dice talent picked

In bg probably less important

But in arena I guess you must have it

[halcyon timber]

Solo shuffle is horse shit man

People either quit/ don’t cc/ don’t capitalize when you control shit. Meanwhile zug from just about everyone exists currently. Good god man.

[torn stump]

what's the breadth of this update?

[marble oasis]

Owl, seriously no one knows anything concrete yet beside a few very surface level comments which you've already been told multiple times....

[torn stump]

I thought he knew the breadth.

[marble oasis]

which you've already been told.... i.e what whispyr said yesterday is just the most recent copy paste of what we've known for over a month no further details have come out beside people making stuff up based on realz's comments which is pure foolish.

We're literally a matter of days/weeks away from 10.2 PTR being up and we can actually see the changes.
anything people say is happening before then is talking crap.

[torn stump]

unhappy

[torn stump]

Do you think my surface level comments can be implemented?

[wary spire]

I think SnD has a pretty big chance of at least being looked at.

Considering it was a vocal point for a while.

[torn stump]

Really? That's good for all rogue!

[wary spire]

I just hope assa will get some sort of buff to survivability.

[wary spire]

It would be nice, yes, but we still don't know if it's really going to be changed/removed. We can only wait.

[wary spire]

People running around in tank cloaks to have a chance is honestly kinda dumb.

[marble oasis]

just to be clear, i wasn't saying your comments were surface level.
just that the information we've been told by 'blizzard unofficially' is very surface level changes.

It's like saying patch 11.0 will be a new expansion and it'll have content. that's surface level i mean.

Yeh i've got some hopes that assassination can go back to being somewhat tanky. giving all rogue specs leeching poison i feel got it nerfed too far for assa.

but then again since i've had my arms warrior geared the amount of healing they do is actually stupid. especially considering they can randomly choose to ignore 90k+ of your damage

[torn stump]

What you're saying makes sense, it looks like this. And hope SnD can improve.

[languid ravine]

First game as healer ever:
0 seconds queue
0 seconds game

[untold remnant]

2.1 unlocked on the hunter, 65 rounds, so about 10 shuffles 😄

[languid ravine]

second Round getting griefed by female blood elf sub rogue

little does he know my queues are 25minutes shorter than his

[minor cape]

MAKE SND PASSIVE MAKE SND PASSIVE MAKE SND PASSIVE

[torn stump]

MAKE SND PASSIVE MAKE SND PASSIVE MAKE SND PASSIVE

[minor cape]

🤪🤪🤪

[torn stump]

🤪🤪🤪

[proven kayak]

gear wise you need all those crafted items for sub rogue ?

[minor cape]

which items you mean

[proven kayak]

neck ring shoulder back

[minor cape]

generally on sub you want to minmax to do shit!

i have 2 crafted rings, neck, engineering goggles, inf boots, 90% shoulder

[proven kayak]

i mean tbh i never minmax i only play up to 2200

XD

[minor cape]

well with sub you really really want that mastery

🫡

[proven kayak]

but only 2 take embolishmnet right?

the oters are juts for stats ?

[minor cape]

cause 85% of your dam scales from mastery

yes

[proven kayak]

i will check murlok io to see what they craft

[minor cape]

they craft what i said + dagger sometimes but ye

since baldurs gate came out i didnt play at all maybe shit changed

[languid ravine]

wtf is this

is this new

[proven kayak]

i just need conq to craft em 😐

[marble oasis]

Isn't that the healer reward for doing solo shuffle was added at x.x.5

[minor cape]

it's Medaille der Eroberung (it's an award they gave to germans in ww2 throw it away immediately as it has bad vibes)

[dusky quartz]

this is a solid build to pad ur numbers as assa in random BGs xd

[languid ravine]

take sepsis for another empowered garrote on 8 targets!

[dusky quartz]

what should i remove ?

need 2 point to take sepsis

[waxen meteor]

it's been there for a while

i think you garantee to get 1 from a solo healer game

[languid ravine]

sheesh, all this time I couldve just spammed healer queues to farm alt gear gacha boxes?

[surreal barn]

Yes

lol

[wary spire]

It depends if you hate yourself or not

[surreal barn]

I just assume we all hate ourselves if we queue SS

[stoic spruce]

is that the alliance version of Marks of Honor?

ohhhhhhhhhh gear boxes?

[pearl warren]

move the 2 points in 20% mutilate dmg as nature to increased FoK radius + mutilate dmg on garrotted targets instead

[teal silo]

outlaw only gets to do real damage with heavy mastery?

[stoic spruce]

pm

[minor cape]

-outlaw
-heavy damage

[teal silo]

idk

saw nahj stream

good dam

my dam = bad dam

[minor cape]

you sure nahj damage isn't just blade flurry pad

[teal silo]

it was 2s

[minor cape]

yeah in 2s totally possible

[teal silo]

actual gear

[minor cape]

in shuff chances to be the top damage are small

anyway just build the whole mastery gear

this is da wae

🫡

[fading blade]

sub rogue just so bad in SS, at the mercy of others to watch DRs rofl

[minor cape]

how much mastery exactly you need i can't tell, i just switch to law w my sub gear

[waxen meteor]

yeah and then get blamed for low dmg

when others zug zug uzg

[fading blade]

honestly sin might just be easier to hit 2.1 at this rate

[minor cape]

if they just let you cc the victory is only in your hands tho

which is cool but i also lack skill a lot

🤪

[fading blade]

palyed against a sin rogue, now i doubt sin would be easier lol

[minor cape]

and honestly i have more games where they do let me

cc

and less where people just go and spam their chaos novas

on yellow dr

[minor cape]

it's cause ur sub

i bet every sin player shakes when he sees a sub

[fading blade]

im just stuck at this 1910-2k range atm lol

its so annoying

[minor cape]

chill out my man and come back fresh tommorow

🫡

cant push while tilted

[fading blade]

worst part is its only 9am

my hardest challenge is the war/ww/dh comps. You sit on 1, you get cleaved hard and die, but cant keep resetting/being passive without tryna help peel the hhealer

[minor cape]

war - shiv a lot, disarm avatar - don't let him breathe in general

dh - kidney and kill lel

ww - idk i get destroyed by those mfs too

if its all 3 then yeah

nightmare blunt rotation

[fading blade]

i wont even try WW unless I can cheese kill in the duel but theres a lot of good WWs that wont let ya

all this tilt to get 2.1 when i can just gear my ret prob and hit it lol

[languid ravine]

you dont even need gear on ret

[fading blade]

It’s sucks cuz I don’t wanna give up on the 2.1k sub dream, but if it’s way easier on another class I might just send it for the illusion

[restive cedar]

ups caps someone reached the 2,1k with outlaw?

[languid ravine]

not me

[waxen meteor]

don't worry it's just lobby thing

i constantly got 51 or 60 when there's at least 1 caster

[languid ravine]

I m currently hardstuck at 1500 with my resto sham, FOUR leavers in a row :^D

[waxen meteor]

when it's 2 or more range, almost always 60

when it's 4 melee

i stuck so bad

even got 06

War or DH just throw random stuns

[languid ravine]

its not random at all

its always the first global

My Warrior pressed 3 buttons in total but sadly didnt have enough cognitive power left to understand that their whole team is doing nothing except hard cc his Healer

gotta give him some slack though, a huge white glowing beam of light falling down from the sky is easy to miss in the heat of battle

[stoic spruce]

thats just your average warrior tbh

[jolly sierra]

me smash

[stoic spruce]

so freaking true bestie

[jolly sierra]

[languid ravine]

Conquest box gacha: 2 out 8 hits

Healer Queue : 6 out 7 lobbies with a leaver

[jolly sierra]

still w issues in EU?

god dammit this is worse i expected lol

first the leavers, second the uneven matches, third the healer sore losers for first 2

[gleaming pawn]

my favorite when I am healing, is when the DPS all blow their CDs in the first minute into walls and then are completely incapable of doing any damage at all for the next 5min while I run out of mana and have to try and keep the brainlettes alive

[jolly sierra]

the zug

at least casters are mostly gone now

[proven kayak]

im getting trained

its so annoying

[jolly sierra]

yesterday happened the same to me w my ret

still managed to 1k9 anyways

[sturdy canopy]

Subs easy to kill as sin 🤨

[jolly sierra]

false

sub counters assa

[languid ravine]

ZugZug is the way guys trust me this is fine a great strategy to facetank everything I mean it was close though

[sturdy canopy]

If it doubt zug it out you know dis

[languid ravine]

man I m doing MORE damage than these two clowns against nonstationary targets

on my assa

[waxen meteor]

Question, why do we pick this one now

[languid ravine]

for damage

[waxen meteor]

but that goes for 6% in arena roughly right?

even two targets get rupture all time

[gleaming pawn]

6% AGI is a lot of AGI

and even if you only have rupture on 1 target, it's still free AGI for more damage

[languid ravine]

:^D that is the worst poison it is just deadly poison without the dot

[potent pivot]

Yeah IMO instant is trashola

!poisons

Did we never make that a command

Deadly/wound or deadly/amp

[proven kayak]

Who is we bro

[jolly sierra]

insta in assa is straight trolling

[potent pivot]

Wut

[jolly sierra]

imagine warrior can have 30% STR in bladestorm and after 5s

[potent pivot]

The RH team

[jolly sierra]

then imagine having rupture with a 6% agi all the time

[proven kayak]

I mean on the guy who said we take this

[jolly sierra]

who? reply him

[proven kayak]

Tarny

[jolly sierra]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[waxen meteor]

The guide posted just the other day

[proven kayak]

It supposed to be fun reply don’t mind me

[potent pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/so-tired-oops-doggy-sleepy-gif-25596345

[waxen meteor]

[pearl warren]

if theyre doing this its bc they dont know how to control deadly with poisoned knife, and dont want their gouge to break

player skill issue

[jolly sierra]

[languid ravine]

I m hardstuck at 1300 Resto sham

[analog crater]

So I know last time I really tried messing with rogue, I was struggling to do any damage with outlaw or assa in pvp, and even sub was mediocre damage at best, has this been a pretty common thing or is it more then likely me, my gear, build etc.

[languid ravine]

its feels like all five players are actively playing against me

[analog crater]

This was in season 1

[jolly sierra]

or when the guy doesn't use his defensives in ur round

[stoic spruce]

I love when there's no communication too.

[languid ravine]

my eyes just go like and my brain is just compiling 40-50 lines of "wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong etc" I cant fucking play like that

it hurts my soul

[stoic spruce]

I think healers have a vendetta against outlaw. They just refuse to heal me.

[languid ravine]

Its called Deathmark now

[jolly sierra]

in one i got killed cuz the MW didn't used cocoon w me when he has it available

other guy didn't used bop w me in same context, was a ret

stingy fucks

im tracking ur cds u fuckers

[languid ravine]

look I can queue right now and type 40 stupid reasons why we won/lost PER ROUND but I think I ve already whined enough for today :^D

[stoic spruce]

Nah

[jolly sierra]

its fine tho

rounds are pretty messy in EU anyways

like having two 1k6 healers for a 1k9 round

[analog crater]

As a ret main I am always trying to keep an eye out for bop potential, but I swear sometimes people do nothing to help with their own survival and die before I can get it off.

[jolly sierra]

dunno, when im stunned and already used my cds i would shout for a bop

im not being stingy if the guy is about to die

[analog crater]

Yeah. If always looking out cause if you die I lose too.

[jolly sierra]

usually w my ret alt

i sac first

[analog crater]

I have gotten away with some pretty great last second saves.

[jolly sierra]

if he is about to die then spellwarden/bop

[languid ravine]

Afflock in my lobby pumped 70k in two of the rounds he lost :^D

[halcyon timber]

Melee cleaves are miserable af. No cc , no one does shit. Just a mosh pit.

[stoic spruce]

can someone tell me how to turn the thing that says "Currently Equipped" off?

[potent pivot]

Having full conq gear, embellishments and tier set are very important dmg wise

Build isn’t as important for rogue tbh, there’s many viable builds

There’s a few important talents that you always want for each spec etc, but otherwise it’s nbd

You’re always going to do less dmg on the meters as sub by the end of a match

Just gotta know how to utilize the dmg you do have

[languid ravine]

there is kind of a hidden variable that doesnt show in damage meters, namely the value you get from all of your crowd controls, which rogue has a lot of

[minor cape]

why deal damage when can just kill

[languid ravine]

like Chains of Ice on Warri = 40k heal per second

[minor cape]

oh yeah

to deny damage is also huge

but no matter how much of that you do you wont be top damage on sub anyway unless you just kill an ele shaman in two dances

at least in my experience

nesper says its not true

he knows better

[karmic summit]

İ cant seem to find the gloomblade build does any1 have a photo or something

[potent pivot]

#pvp-faq message

it's in the faq

• or - a couple of talents that are personal pref

[karmic summit]

Didnt see it mb

Thanks

[proven field]

Ok the reasearch into Assa dumb spec continues - question, what is a good burst number? I am about 100k dps over 3M dmg so far but working on getting that consistent to say 5M dmg

(got kingsbane up to just under 150k hit as a side note, I get ppl know it and it sucks if they just CC u but I can't help myself, maybe it's the inner FDK in me)

[jolly sierra]

burst number? 100k envenoms

[proven field]

No like during burst rotation what dps are you hitting

Like most shuffles I see (granted im@only 1950) people are around 40-50k sustain per round

[frigid surge]

What is this bug wher I'm being pulled from stealth

[proven field]

It’s a few things doing it

Especially for outlaw

[waxen meteor]

Sin 2set does that too

[frigid surge]

I'm sub rn

but it hap[pened like 3 times in a bg

where I was near no one

and got pulled

[proven field]

Shadow priest shadows

[frigid surge]

I don't think so?

[proven field]

Boomy big red aoe thing

[frigid surge]

I was completelu out of combat

it looked like a heal hit me

[proven field]

Ooo!

Are you undead

[potent pivot]

there's multiple stealth bugs

[frigid surge]

tauren

(meme)

[proven field]

Hail pika

UD racial pops you too

[frigid surge]

lmao

dude blizz is so ass

[proven field]

Maybe sporeclosk?

[frigid surge]

you can't even use shadowy duel on flagcarriers

I'll try and look for it

this one

but it looked like a heal pulled me

[proven field]

Man if duel worked on FCs sub would be as mandatory as a tank

[jolly sierra]

dunno, but have like 30k average per round

[proven field]

How much dmg, 3-5m?

[jolly sierra]

dont recall

but don't expect too much burst dmg from assa

[waxen meteor]

I will try sin next week!

[jolly sierra]

i'll try in reset tho

or for next tuning

[waxen meteor]

Seems no tuning next week?

[jolly sierra]

hmmm

maybe for next friday

ppl was already complaining tho

[broken otter]

How important is 2-set for Sub? I'm looking to play both Sub and Sin, and would like to avoid the set bonus (because of the Sin Stealth bug), if possible.

(I know I said I had 3 set yesterday, but this is a new Rogue I'm gearing now)

[fading blade]

Yeah im starting to think I’m just really tough on myself, prob too tough. Obv im not Raz, Pika and such, I have my own dog shit problems, but those lobbies are just absolute dog shit and I pray for at least 2 wins so I don’t drop much

[waxen meteor]

I got two 0-6 beginning of this week, with double melee blend lobby, honestly I felt I am dog shit. I think too many DH and Warrior were trying their buff

Then I got 2 caster + mm lobby, easy 6-0

My poison even expired in middle of a round still won easily

I feel it’s really hard to avoid zug zug match in 4 melee game before high rank

And people don’t burst hard, throw random stun DR, doesn’t swap well at that range

So we sort of dragged into slow dps contest in some rounds and there’s no way we win

[fading blade]

Those melee zug games, especially when it’s like 3 games back to back to back, definitely kill my confidence that’s for sure

[waxen meteor]

—-
Btw, middle of week I got two 0-6 in a row again with melee blend, I felt again I was so bad

Luckily before I gave up, got 3 lobbies with caster or casters

6-0 5-1 5-1

Feel like a real player again

[waxen meteor]

Yeah and sometimes people shamed on me, I don’t even know what to say

Those people just say yes to not ruin stun DR and kept throwing it to kill target for a 1 sec stun

Said they would let me sap, but ride to opponent’s face

Said would interrupt true vision but never did

And in the end, they said you got shit dps

[fading blade]

Those games are super tough. I have way too many rounds played for my rating(played way too many on my days off extremely baked, bad idea) but I’m just glad my Q’ing anxiety is gone so I can just keep playin to grind and improve

But at least I’m not the assassin guy I ran into this morning who deathmarked me on CD and forgot cloak just removes it

[waxen meteor]

Haha last season I got a bit anxiety as well for queue

Especially when I tried to reach 2400

I even got a feeling I should only queue on Wednesday and Thursday

Felt scared at weekend and only played alt arena over weekend

[fading blade]

I still think I should Q as sin since my MMR would prob be higher since I hit 2400 last season with it, maybe I can hit 2.1 lol

[waxen meteor]

I will try sin next week, afked too long this season. Didn’t try sin even

Got second dagger just today

[fading blade]

I only see like 40 sins above 2100 in ss for US, always makes rethink it lol

[wanton breach]

only tried sin in a bit of 2s but feels like we're pumping hard now - only concern for shuffle I have is squishiness

outlaw and sub just have better tools for shuffle to survive

[steep loom]

does anyone know if magazine of healing darts embellishment triggers off of leech/crimson vial?

[halcyon timber]

It won’t

Has to be healy heal type crap

Can heal for 50k though from what ive noticed

[lavish idol]

So... not really followed PvP this season. I want to grind out the season mount - any tips? I guess solo shuffle queue still crap? Usually I go RBGs but not sure if any specs are standing out right now

I get the feeling the answer is rogue is not too op atm and none really stand out

[proven kayak]

funny that i lost 200 rating cus of lobbys

[broken otter]

I think Sub is solid in RBGs atm.

but I don't play rated right now. So, take that with a heaping grain of salt.

What ability do you Sub Rogues macro your Bade of Ferocity with, - if any?

I was thinking Cold Blood, but that's a 45sec CD, not 1min.

[lavish idol]

Yeah I usually default to sub in RBG and last season was switching to assass for FC

I never really push past 1.8k

[wanton breach]

if you want it easy you can macro it into shadowblades, dance and sectec

[broken otter]

Like all three and let the cards (its CD) fall where they may?

SecTec has CDR so, I'm afraid fo it not syncing

same with Dance

but Shadowblades does make sense

Gonna try that actually

[scarlet shell]

why do i keep on forgetting to use Shadow Blades

its literally my burst

[broken otter]

Dude, I feel you.

I'm so bad at remembering to use Shadow Blades lol

(I'm an unrated BG hero - don't laugh at me)

[scarlet shell]

i have not being using my rogue all too much

and then i wonder without blades, why my only burst is sec tech.

[surreal barn]

180 subtlety duelist+ this late in the NA season lol

That’s pretty funny

[jolly sierra]

funny af yeah

elite rog xmog this season will be very valuable at future tho

elite name fits well for the label

[proven kayak]

Elite sets lost the meaning when was available at 1800 tho

[jolly sierra]

well yeah, but participation is very low compared to most xps

and pvers still whines about wanting the sets, so is still meaningful tho

[proven kayak]

But it’s good tbh you can get things to flex in higher ratings

Is Assa playable or you get run through

[jolly sierra]

didnt played assa this week due to dhs winning most of time in lobbies

dmg is disgusting, im passing for now tho

[potent pivot]

it's quite big

[broken otter]

Thanks. I guess I’ll commit to the 2-set, and eat the Sin bug. I’m enjoying Sub more anyways.

[sharp sierra]

Rotten and 2p still the way to go?

[wanton breach]

the shadowflame illusion might be more sought after than individual class sets

[pearl warren]

best illusion in a LOOOOOONG time

id even say ever

[wanton breach]

the legion illusion was also pretty dope

but not as different to previous illusion as shadowflame is now

I have yet to get it, been slacking too hard in pve only

[broken otter]

It's the best illusion in the game so far, imo. And I'll never get it. :<

[jolly sierra]

im trying to get the shadowflame but im still 200 CR away

[surreal barn]

Don’t worry there will be a ret paladin buff 3 weeks before season ends and everyone will get it

[jolly sierra]

gg

[thick dagger]

What’s the illusion look like can one of y’all post a pic ?

[broken otter]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/pvp/dragonflight-season-2-rewards

Scroll down a bit, there’s a video of the illusion.

[jolly sierra]

i find very funny than DF s2 is deflated af compared to SL s2

[thick dagger]

Ty

[proven kayak]

Last seasons illusion was so good

[jolly sierra]

rlly liked primal storm ngl

fits well w thunderfury and orcish weps

[proven kayak]

I use it with anything that isn’t dark themed

[jolly sierra]

w dark stuff i use dreadflame

but hope i can get shadowflame

[hexed chasm]

morning, looking for a reccomended w/a pack for outlaw. Trying to avoid the big compilations as they are more clutter than help lol. But would like to track RTB and other important buffs if possible. The main one that shows up in search is a bit much, almost would prefer to have all buffs on the screen and highlight which ones are rolled

[potent pivot]

there are rtb specific WA packs on wago

quite a few, just gotta find the one that fits you

[hexed chasm]

ohhhh not sure why i didn't see that second one lol

i'm kind of wary of a 2018 one, but I guess honestly it's just tracking the buff not doing any major calculations

[potent pivot]

the ones that tell you what buffs to reroll etc are all pve based anyway

some reroll suggestions can apply to pvp as well but not all

you can also just get one of the big WA packs that include rtb

and turn off all the auras you don't want

[hexed chasm]

tru, hey thanks for the info by the way 🙂

[potent pivot]

np

[proven kayak]

does anyone why im gettng perma error at my gladius sometimes when i face dragon healer

[broken otter]

I don’t play Outlaw atm, but that second aura is sexy af.

[fading blade]

yeah its pretty bad lol

[jolly sierra]

the lack of rework screwed all for rogs tho

[thick dagger]

We even get a confirmation of when the rework is happening?

[stoic spruce]

Newp

[languid ravine]

How long does angel form lasts after holy priest dies?

feeels like forever

almost griefed my team staring at the priest :^D

[jolly sierra]

lol

15 seconds

[stoic spruce]

You're supposed to stop dealing damage right?

[jolly sierra]

or run to los the dying healer

[languid ravine]

no it was the enemy priest who died and in those 15 sec my resto sham almost got wrecked while I still had some peels and stuffs

oh no I have reached DH bracket on my healer

both DHs in my Lobby want to focus the other DH over the Warlock :^D

[stoic spruce]

So you are suppose to stop dealing damage right?

[jolly sierra]

dont think so

in my case i just say my healer to run away

if the dps is a dumbass then will chase u at los and he dies

[stoic spruce]

That was the play in SL so I was wondering if it's still a thing

[jolly sierra]

sounds like if they still have that talent

but usually u have a WA to track that

[languid ravine]

Rsham is so ass in shuffle, its like it suffers extra from all the trillion of versions of imcompetence humans train themselves into

[jolly sierra]

it sucks cock cuz needs to stand in place to do shit

[languid ravine]

in 1500 bracket the winning play is healing tide first global, use aura mastery as mobility :^D no kappa

[proven kayak]

can soemoen tell me why the fking gladius bugs vs evoekrs

holy fuck

it perma errors

[jolly sierra]

dunno else i would told u

holy shit

dude that is a genocide

[desert hollow]

What happened to make outlaw suddenly viable in pvp? Surely it wasn’t just the 5% dmg buff? It feels like overnight it went from zero to playable right after AWC had two in the finals.

[potent pivot]

it was always playable. the buff just helped a bit and the AWC showed everyone that it was viable

[waxen meteor]

What’s hard core classic?

[potent pivot]

before awc/buffs it was viable but most people don't care to put in the effort

[waxen meteor]

You die once then game over?

[potent pivot]

yes

[waxen meteor]

Then pvp players are worst ever

[potent pivot]

what

[waxen meteor]

Don’t we become real murders

[potent pivot]

you don't really pvp in hc classic

people have to flag for pvp on RP type realms etc

[waxen meteor]

Oh okay

Didn’t know that

But flag result is one person will game over?

[jolly sierra]

yeah

im going extremely safe this time

by just farming silvers and getting greens in low lvl quests

[sharp sierra]

I died at 9 😂 wasn’t paying attention farming mobs a little higher than me and it was all fine and then someone i guess pulled mobs near where i was farming so out of nowhere i started getting attacked by 4 mobs all a level higher than me 😞

[sharp sierra]

I was on a priest, not sure if imma go priest again or not. What you playing on HC?

[jolly sierra]

OOF

that is griefing

[jolly sierra]

rogue

as should be

[halcyon timber]

Rogue or uninstall. This is our way.

[jolly sierra]

lvl 12, im getting very slow but safe

almost got killed by a rare thrashing me but used a pot and succedded

[jolly sierra]

primal w green high res orc axes

now rlly want shadowflame

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/161c5ms/how_hunters_are_born/

[unreal pelican]

uhm for assassa do i do deathmark or the speed up the bleeds one first

[jolly sierra]

one or the other

don't do that together

[potent pivot]

iirc exsang isn't working correctly with DM

if it was, you'd exsang the bleeds first, then DM. so that you don't halve your DM bleed, thus shortening your DM window.

[jolly sierra]

also, for a fkn 3m cd doesn't worth the burst window

[potent pivot]

but for right now it's as panda said

[jolly sierra]

tbh would just do it by separate in 2 different instances

[unreal pelican]

oh so just don’t press it?

[jolly sierra]

do dm in 1 kill window

refresh all bleeds and exsang the other one

[unreal pelican]

aye aye 🫡

[jolly sierra]

kk

[nova viper]

sexoooooooooooooooooooo

do you wanna watch something funny?

[jolly sierra]

SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO

trolled

lol

that cuz u shouted sexo before reach the line and spent 1s in that

[nova viper]

indeed

[jolly sierra]

XD

[jolly sierra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/161izbl/my_solo_shuffle_healing_commentary_will_carry_you/

great tip

[proven kayak]

some lobbys are fking unplayable

ret fury demo XD

[karmic summit]

Which 3s comp would be besr for rogue atm?

[jolly sierra]

is not RMP?

[thick dagger]

RMP and Thug

[jolly sierra]

i slept like shit today again, even when i went earlier to bed

fuck, seriously now need the melatonin

[sharp sierra]

What is thug 😅

[wise breach]

Rogue Hunter

[jolly sierra]

a thief

[wise breach]

Guns and knives!

[jolly sierra]

cum and boots

[karmic summit]

for rmp does ammge go fire or arcane?

[minor cape]

rn really any rogue + any mage is fine

we've seen successful outlaw arcane, fire sub is always fine, sub frost and sub arcane prolly can be good too

idk about any assa comps

@jolly sierra prolly knows better

you can also play sub our outlaw with sp or with destro warlock and give them space and control to outdamage anyone

with hunter idk whats the proper way to play but i go sub surv holy priest