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gleaming pawn
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the cancelaura only matters if you're trying to stealth first

dapper chasm
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Well, you can't stealth during ShD

gleaming pawn
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because you cannot be in Stealth and Shadow Dance at the same time

dapper chasm
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But to be out of combat and ShD is rare

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So it's for very rare occasions

harsh steppe
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ahh i copied it froms omeone here then, i remember now
they had a macro that is stealth & sap to make it easier for them, and i thought that was a good idea

dapper chasm
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I prefer adding cancel ShD to Vanish

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But that's mostly for UI reasons

harsh steppe
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is there any harm in this then?

#showtooltip Sap
/cancelaura [nocombat] Shadow Dance
/cast !Stealth
/targetenemyplayer
/cast Sap
/cleartarget

dapper chasm
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Seems perfect

harsh steppe
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ok tysm ❤️
we don't need /stopattack right? i have a habit of adding it to everything, i used to main hunter

dapper chasm
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Well, you can add it before Stealth

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In case you hit stealth and knock yourself out

harsh steppe
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ah ok ill keep it then ty

dapper chasm
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Don't forget to add /cast [stance:1/2/3] Pick Pocket before Sap

harsh steppe
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lmao

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it works perfectly, exactly what i wanted, tysm

untold remnant
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Just had a shuffle with 2 holy pala, sub, assa, outlaw and Ret.

Needless to say, the ret went 6-0 😅 it’s so RNG slot machine what you get

harsh steppe
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ouch

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that's what i had earlier except shams instead of rogues

wary spire
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Wait what does it do.

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Evis out of stealth, sap in stealth?

gleaming pawn
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that macro
Evis if out of stealth or in Dance
Saps if in Stealth or Vanish
Evis again, but only if out of stealth
and finally Stealths if not already in stealth, while not dancing and not in vanish

dapper chasm
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I have like 50 macros from 12 years ago when I used to play

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It was to minimise bar latency, but I'm not sure if they fixed that

gleaming pawn
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bar latency is really only an issue these days (that I am aware of) when dealing with Backstab and Shadow Strike. But since it's a problem there still, it could conceivably be an issue still as well with your use case

jolly sierra
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if u dont have 200 ms average think u are ok

languid ravine
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whoa guys I FINALLY have enough reputation to craft 408 gear

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naiccceeeeee

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wait Outlaw 2set breaks Gouge almost immediately?

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fuuuuuuuuuuuck

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wait it mioght have been shadowflame enchant

jolly sierra
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wreathe? is nerfed af

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dont use it

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btw got assaulted in outdoor w my ret by 2 hunters

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killed 2 and called him cowards for waiting to kill the wpvp boss cuz i was tanking xdd

sharp sierra
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There is no way to get pvp level on a LFR dagger, is there?

languid ravine
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maybe If I didnt spend 20k for shadowflame wreathes I would have gold now to buy sophic devotions OMEGAKEKW

jolly sierra
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nope lol

languid ravine
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nonononono

jolly sierra
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there are gold wpvp for gold in eu now

languid ravine
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mate come on

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its a joke

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and I know that there are world quests

jolly sierra
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thought u were real broke

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like my prisoner healer

languid ravine
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I play World of warcraft you know

jolly sierra
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has like 2k gold rn in acc

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lol

languid ravine
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ouch

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trying to cap as Outlaw: 20min queue for 1600 game
Each round lasts =<30 sec and you go 1-4
Healer leaves and you get 100 honorpoints OMEGAKEKW

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^repeat 50 times I suppose

jolly sierra
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oof

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i got 2-4 yesterday cuz a augvoker appeared in the match

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so he buffed the winner every fkn time

minor cape
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inflation kicked a lot for me

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and q timers are fine somehow

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i was 1620 in shuff, didnt play a month, turns out my mmr was 1750, played 3 games, got to 1820 mmr and 1780 cr

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lololo

jolly sierra
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lol

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keep going

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dropped hard in SS but im going well in 2s

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think i'll stay there if i have the chance to play w a good healer now

minor cape
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i found some good disc player and we got 1760

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in 2s

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hopefully i will get 1.8 this season too lol

jolly sierra
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think u can

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im aiming for 2k1 w this healer

minor cape
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pretty close already

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i believe in your duelist

jolly sierra
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got duelist in 1st time w him and he is elite xp

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so is safe

minor cape
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you will do it

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or else....

jolly sierra
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ty chad

jolly sierra
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yeah i will

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im taking measures

languid ravine
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I m in lobby with Prot palas, both 1900cr

jolly sierra
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bruh

languid ravine
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which means there is no heal to dispel HoJ :^)

minor cape
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my bet is ill reach 1.8 then will wait again for inflation

jolly sierra
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did ppl trashtalked them?

minor cape
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legendary prot pala lobbies

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the ones where class with most burst goes 6-0

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i wonder how prot pala qs are

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is there even another pala in prot q to begin with lol

jolly sierra
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always

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if is region wide

wary spire
minor cape
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i dont mind prot pala lobbies on sub

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cause its either 6-0 or 3-3

gleaming pawn
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oh speaking of tanks in shuffle

jolly sierra
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think that doesn't need to be questioned

gleaming pawn
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when did they change it so tanks take a dps spot

languid ravine
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this one was 3-3 aka 0-6 prot

jolly sierra
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always happens

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lol

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ah nice

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a noob prot vs a good prot

minor cape
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either class with most burst goes 6-0

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or one of the prot pals is so bad its auto 3-3

wary spire
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I honestly don't know why people are doing that to themselves

jolly sierra
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cuz they hate themselves

gleaming pawn
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I've had 4 lobbies in the last week, where there was a tank in a dps slot. 2x Guardian druids, 1 x tank DH, 1 x Prot warrior. Their team always lost because they didn't have enough damage or control to secure a win against a healer

minor cape
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guys, when i played swtor the classic 4x4 ranked arena was composed of a healer, tank and two dps. The thing is every tank had that ability called Guard with no cooldown. You see, guard worked like that paladin blessing which splits damage, but was only limited by gcd. So the whole gameplay was farming damage and then aligning cooldowns once a minute to try and burst someone and controlling tank so he doesn't change guard. This is why i have ptsd and don't want any tanks in wow arena

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this was my ted talk

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thanks

gleaming pawn
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god SWTOR pvp was such a shit show for that very reason

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huttball was a blast though

minor cape
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nah solo ranked was awesome

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the ones w 4 dps

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the game was balanced around that and it was very fun

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i hated huttball lol

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and i of course mained a rat class (concealment operative)

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rip pvp in that game

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😦

gleaming pawn
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I bounced between healing on my operative, and dpsing on my marauder. Always enjoyed a good huttball and making plays

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I can't even imagine huttball making a WoW appearance, but I would love it if they tried to implement it

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not like it would do any harm over the shit BGs we have since the begining of time

minor cape
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yeah huttball is cool, but it is also very imbalanced which makes it a lot less fun

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like, my class completely destroyed that game cause it is impossible to catch it and it just rolls to the goal

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and the team that won was the one with most operatives or a premade

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not very fun

minor cape
gleaming pawn
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for those with no clue what we are talking about, picture a hardcore rugby or football/soccer gamemode. One ball starts in the middle, mass scrable to control the ball and get it into the enemy goal

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multi level maps, no mans lands

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damnit, now I want to play some huttball

minor cape
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yeah except you can also use grappling hooks, stun enemies into traps that oneshot them and it has a cool comentator

gleaming pawn
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yes!

jolly sierra
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malicia

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kek

minor cape
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noo thats cooler than malicia

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he even said

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NAMECALLING AND CHEATING ARE ENCOURAGED

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he also said

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CANNIBALISM? YOU CAN BE THE FIRST!!

jolly sierra
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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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fuck

gleaming pawn
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you could try and throw the ball to pass, be bad and throw it to the enemy team, or they CC your target because it's just a reticle on the ground, and you intercept it

minor cape
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oh yeah, there was also a think where he would say

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no kicking the huttball cause hutts dont have feet

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and the you could buy cosmetic item that lets you kick the ball

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and he would get angry as fuck

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thats the good part of that bg, there are a lot of bad ones too

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like when everything would lag in jump through the floor

wise breach
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Huttball was so damn fun

scarlet shell
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Lag-Ball

hard jolt
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(found answer in search sorry)

minor cape
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🫡

languid ravine
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both heals in my game 1900cr are taking turns afk griefing the Demon Hunter ionwut

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nope they started actually playing at round 4

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yah its probably bots bugging out randomly

stoic spruce
gleaming pawn
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such a dumb change

stoic spruce
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It's a necessary evil

gleaming pawn
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they could just ban tank specs from arena, zero reason they need to be in that game mode

stoic spruce
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Either that or have them replace healers again. (Or completely rework them in pvp lul)

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That's the worst idea

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Shitty business practice

gleaming pawn
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Never met another non-tank player that has ever thought tanks had a place in arena. Make them healer spots, or ban the degenerates outright, imo

stoic spruce
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When they put tanks in the dps slot, I was under the impression their cooldowns would be rebalanced.

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I miss glad stance prot warr

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Now that was a spec

vocal surge
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Indeed

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It was also very fun to play

wary spire
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Weren't there supposed to be an addition to pvp patchnotes on Monday?

stoic spruce
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For next week's reset

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Idk would that imply this Tuesday or the Tuesday after to "reset" this week

austere thorn
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Prolly some random bm buffs or boomkin compensation buffs

jolly sierra
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imo w dps slot fkn prots will make rounds eternal

stoic spruce
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They do more damage than outlaw

jolly sierra
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everything do more dmg than outlaw

stoic spruce
jolly sierra
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maybe later

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remember we are in EU

stoic spruce
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Oh yeah Monday

spring bough
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so outlaw gets another 10% cant wait

jolly sierra
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so its afternoon there still tho

spring bough
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i just want outlaw to be fun again like it was in shadowlands

wary spire
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17:51 there.

stoic spruce
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Yeah we have a couple hours before their time frame stops

spring bough
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with everything else thats gonna be DELAYED

jolly sierra
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no further changes for rogues this week

wary spire
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USA chads win again feelscryman

spring bough
jolly sierra
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oh cmon

spring bough
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week before 10.2 comes out "sorry yall forgot again"

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we had to add a fourth evo spec sorry rogues

jolly sierra
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time to rethink your methods

stoic spruce
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You only think they treat rogue bad

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You could be DK

wary spire
stoic spruce
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And get shafted every other patch

jolly sierra
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dk got something this time

stoic spruce
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This time

jolly sierra
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this time

stoic spruce
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Fdk still in the dust

wary spire
stoic spruce
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I bet they'll get a rework at the same time or after rogue rework

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Disarmed every go is not cool

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You got that gamer?

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Unholy is dead to me

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You got that too gamer?

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Blood does more damage than Outlaw.

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YOU GOT THAT GAMER?

wary spire
spring bough
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outlaw worst dps tank in the game LOL

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worst tank too? lol

stoic spruce
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Nah it's not the worst

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Maybe idk

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There's only 5

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Actually gdudu might be

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In terms of damage

gleaming pawn
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I dunno about in pvp, but guardian druid does crazy damage in pve

stoic spruce
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It did not translate well into pvp lol

spring bough
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80k ended match with an aug as outlaw

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i feel god mode lol

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100k dispatch feels so good

stoic spruce
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Is that the ER/KiR build?

wary spire
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I honestly think evokers are the worst class.

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Blizz released a broken spec and those goofy ass dragons still got hate mail. OMEGAKEKW

spring bough
stoic spruce
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I hate them because they look ugly

spring bough
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prob coulda been more with dispatcher lol

wary spire
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I forsee them being shafted worse than monks in future expansions.

stoic spruce
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I go out of my way to not be on the same team as them

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I'm extremely racist

jolly sierra
stoic spruce
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Me dood

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Is sooo cringe

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I gotta be honest

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I'm glad rogue is getting a rework but I think frost dk needed it more

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HOWEVER

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As the greedy pirate I am, I want it first.

wary spire
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I mean.

stoic spruce
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Here's a hot take, SnD is worse than RtB and if RtB never procs just 1 buff, it would be a lot better.

wary spire
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And thought "yea"

wary spire
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"Its cool"

stoic spruce
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Scaly freaks

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Furries

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They all have no place here

wary spire
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Their forum avatars are so goofy.

jolly sierra
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muh panda

stoic spruce
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Panda and Taurens are cool because they've been a thing since WC

wary spire
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Pandas got more rights just because Dracthyr are so bad.

stoic spruce
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Vulpera and the others not so much

jolly sierra
wary spire
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My only issue with pandas is their eyes honestly.

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If they were full black they'd be cooler.

jolly sierra
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leave my purple eyes alone

stoic spruce
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The new undead customization feels shallow. Wow! A slightly greyer shade of green :O.

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I want the female undead to have the same features as male undead.

surreal barn
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Reminds me of the whos

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From whoville

stoic spruce
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Did yall know that human has some faces locked behind skin color?

gleaming pawn
gleaming pawn
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it's such a shit ability, and I hate that people were hyped for it coming back instead of protesting it

stoic spruce
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I feel like the should remove barriers like what I stated with undead and human before we get more.

stoic spruce
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I wish it stayed a dead talent like in bfa

wary spire
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That's the reason not to roll a nelf on your rogue.

stoic spruce
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Okay but what does it look like on the ladies?

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.>

gleaming pawn
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the ladies looks great, especially the purple one

stoic spruce
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Nice

jolly sierra
spring bough
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def peaked higher than 80k this the most wild lobby ive ever had

wary spire
gleaming pawn
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we are finally getting the armor set from the original vanilla game trailer

spring bough
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didnt know blade rush can crit for like 45k lmao

gleaming pawn
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damnit man! Making me think the Outlaw dream can actually be a reality, maybe

wary spire
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I still don't like nelf aesthetic. Nature can suck a dick.

spring bough
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256k burst in under 2.5 seconds not bad as outlaw lol

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with aug in tow lol

gleaming pawn
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you're playing with breadblade right?

spring bough
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nah that was all just regular HO but i did 2/2 CTO

gleaming pawn
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Killing Spree being such a fucking joke, hurts my soul

spring bough
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i dont use it i use precise cuts

gleaming pawn
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ah ok

jolly sierra
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ne heritage armor should have them naked

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if they wanna embrace nature for real

gleaming pawn
stoic spruce
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Praise be to slut mogs

wary spire
jolly sierra
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we will get a slutmog for real

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in august

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w blood troll stuff

wary spire
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Oh tru

stoic spruce
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Huh?

wary spire
stoic spruce
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Whoa

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Mama

gleaming pawn
wary spire
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Feels like i'm wearing nothing at all!

wary spire
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Which one?

stoic spruce
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I bet they smell like hibiscus and lavender 🥰

jolly sierra
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im 100% sure there is a furry in the lead art team if they are giving fempandas bedroom eyes

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and make vulperas like uwu owo alongside dracthyrs

spring bough
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idk what furry is but it sounds bad and i dont wanna know lmao

wary spire
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I like 2 things about pandas.

jolly sierra
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fat

languid ravine
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boobs and thighs

wary spire
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Their landing animation and their suzumiya dance.

jolly sierra
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greatest tights in all game

jolly sierra
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or how they evis?

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readycombat w daggers

wary spire
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Das too monky tho.

spring bough
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thats a pretty cool looking panda ngl

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i like how the female blood elves touch the ground in stealth thats why i hit the barber

wary spire
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Good enough for a ninja fantasy i guess.

languid ravine
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said it before but I m pretty sure blizz just yoinked the flashy Shaolin styles for panda animations

wary spire
spring bough
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im old enough to remember when they announced pandas as a new race on an april fools day way before MOP was even a thing and then fast forward and they actually did it LOL

wary spire
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So many races can't use footwear. So many races.

spring bough
jolly sierra
spring bough
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oh that means good product INC

wary spire
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Also I think evoker's designer was a 100% confirmed furry.

jolly sierra
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also gnoll designer

wary spire
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4 real?

jolly sierra
wary spire
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Ah. New models.

stoic spruce
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Tbh I'm surprised pandas didn't make it into vanilla because they were struggling to find an alliance race to have an even amount of races and pandas were playable in WC3

wary spire
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I was looking at this lol.

stoic spruce
jolly sierra
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i do a spin and finish doing this when im evis

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panda master race

wary spire
jolly sierra
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lemme see the comments

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im sure read about a twitter from the lead art dev

languid ravine
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shit all my account wide makros are deleted

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whattttttttttttttttttttttt

stoic spruce
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That's what you get for maining evoker

wary spire
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That's a serious accusation.

stoic spruce
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It is

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Evoker main

wary spire
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Don't worry man, with today's advancements in medicine that can for sure be healed.

jolly sierra
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found the dev

wary spire
jolly sierra
languid ravine
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is she the reason why everything is horny on dragonisles

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with horny I mean they have horns on their head

jolly sierra
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dunno

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just know gnolls do ahegaos thanks to her

wary spire
jolly sierra
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sussus amogus

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well lets bury this shit away in chat

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i still need to cap chests tho with some classes

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can discard both monk and ret this time cuz both are literal full geared and gemmed

languid ravine
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I think my 100 macros are gone for good

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I ve had like 6 different shadowmeld macros pepehands

wary spire
wary spire
jolly sierra
jolly sierra
languid ravine
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what do you mean better? you can't make perfect better

wary spire
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Just make it perfecterer.

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Add a message with something like "Stand back! I'm beginning to meld!"

gleaming pawn
languid ravine
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It's Melding time

jolly sierra
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i have some macros from like 2008

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and had them deleted cuz were too cringe

wary spire
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Some of the current wow players weren't alive in 2008.

jolly sierra
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i have yugioh cards older than those fkn players

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from like 2002

gleaming pawn
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damnit Panda, quit being so old!

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(not that I can talk, but it's more fun this way)

jolly sierra
wary spire
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I imagine you as panda.

jolly sierra
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kek

toxic yarrow
spring bough
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why do resto druids and mistweavers just MELT

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literally every round either one died lol

stoic spruce
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mistweavers are immortal and I will die on that hill

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(because MW doesnt die)

spring bough
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idk man we got this dude to bubble off the bat, swap for a second, go back and just deleted

stoic spruce
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I call cap

spring bough
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prob just not a good mw tbh lol

stoic spruce
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I am

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so fed up

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with MW

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bro

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RAHHHHHHHHH

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nvm

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so madge

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and now Details doesnt want to cooperate

spring bough
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im kinda having fun in solo tonight as outlaw must be getting good comps lol

jolly sierra
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im pushing forward w my chars

spring bough
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1877 right now with OL and hit a 5-1 to get to it

surreal barn
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Nice that’s damn good, shouldn’t we be getting more class tuning notes today?

stoic spruce
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we should be

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but yknow

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blizz

languid ravine
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Venruki: "Arcane is the least played PvP spec outside of tanks"
He knows that Outlaw is a tank spec OMEGAKEKW

stoic spruce
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Venruki is a list of things that would get me banned if I said them

languid ravine
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no way, he is a %&%"§$ ?? If only I knew before

stoic spruce
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if only

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there are things I wish I could say to streamers in person

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does that make me a bad person?

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I decided it does not

languid ravine
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imo you have severe tunnelvision if you think "streamers" as a category are worth any kind of resentment

stoic spruce
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im ignoring that because that's stupid

spring bough
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i wish asmon still played wow lol

stoic spruce
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why doesnt he?

spring bough
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last i saw he was on some other games

spring bough
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he still does review videos which are always great but when he was playing that was some good stuff w his boy mcconnell lol

queen geyser
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You ever just

shut solstice
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pathc notes when

jolly sierra
shut solstice
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tonight?

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bc they promised tonight

jolly sierra
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look

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the healer got 1k8 but im at 1k7 cuz i was shifting between chars to cap lol

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i went w my monk at his mmr and won 9 from 11

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the monk had 480 CR at start

jolly sierra
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think we can get 2k easily at this step if he returned 2 weeks ago

exotic dove
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Much harder to get into RBGs now then it used to be. Common message I get back is Blizzard killed Rogue cc capping for bases

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and there are better sitters

wise breach
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They updated the hotfixes for tomorrow with additional tuning

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Zero rogue changes 🙂

lucid citrus
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it doesnt even look like they added anything lol

wise breach
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There are a few updates

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Penance buffed by 15% in PvP

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Abyss Walker is now 100% more effective in PvP combat. is new I think

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Barbed Shot PvP buff removed looks like

exotic dove
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They seems like they are keeping the pvp modifier for it but the pve buffs for BM are still going through

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so overall a 5% barbed shot buff in pvp for them

jolly sierra
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outlaw

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im not a mage why tf i got an ice barrier?

stoic spruce
jolly sierra
stoic spruce
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Dood that's crazy

jolly sierra
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did u thought i was native? lol

stoic spruce
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You speak burrito and cheeseburger?

jolly sierra
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yes

stoic spruce
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That is insanity

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Good for yoo

gleaming pawn
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0 Rogue changes

jolly sierra
stoic spruce
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Yoink

wary spire
# gleaming pawn 0 Rogue changes

Rework is just a few parches away! Can you believe this information? Rework is just in a few months! Wow. Rework in just a few months.

untold remnant
wary spire
minor cape
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idk, i think sub is still fine

untold remnant
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Solo shuffle perspective

minor cape
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yup played shuff yesterday wasn't too bad

untold remnant
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In 2s and 3s it feels fine

minor cape
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still that control and cheese gameplay

untold remnant
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It's supposed to be a caster meta 😄 yet all my lobbies have Rets and Wars in it

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All casters probably sitting at 2.2 and up

minor cape
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i got a warrior ret dh lobby yesterday

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and this was my thought yes

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"oooh caster meta"

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but went 4-2 so it oke

untold remnant
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Nice one

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But warriors keep using shockwave and DH chaos nova.. just let me stun them m8s 😅

#

I just keep climbing to 2050 and then start losing a lot, mainly due to hard lobbies. That enchant is lurking at me

dapper chasm
#

Wait, wait, wait

#

Blind removes Rupture?!

#

What is this baby shit? When did this happen?

minor cape
#

nah

#

it shouldn't

#

🤔

dapper chasm
wintry dew
#

In pvp blind removes all dots from the target

#

I mean, it's anything but shit

#

@dapper chasm

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You get to reset your goes in a click

dapper chasm
#

The point wasn't how strong Blind was - the point was how HARD it was to use

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It was how legends were made

wintry dew
#

1st world war achievements xD

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It has been like this for ages

dapper chasm
#

You kids have it too easy

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But I guess it makes sense now that they've added 3 billion useless auras

wintry dew
#

Weird being called a kid since I've grown with the game since tbc

wintry dew
#

And no I've never played vanilla/classic

dapper chasm
#

I played TBC too, quit about Cata

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But we can pretend I played since Vanilla pre-alpha

wintry dew
#

Cata gets a lot of hate but I actually loved the pvp/PvE during it

dapper chasm
#

Yeah, it was solid

#

Rogues excel as support classes, but Sub had some bite to it too

wintry dew
#

We were also healers due to recuperate

dapper chasm
#

Great sustain healing when not everyone was a tank

#

lol yeah

#

Just a great, solid, snappy feel to the class

#

Shit feels a bit sloppier now

wintry dew
#

I enjoy the idea of recuperate way better than this shit heal we have now

dapper chasm
#

I just wish not everyone had a wall

wintry dew
#

Everyone's a "bob the builder" nowadays

#

Cause all of them have walls xD

dapper chasm
#

Everyone has disarm/ms/incap

#

How you reacted to abilities used to really matter - how fast your mechanics were

#

Now it seems more about "managing" the list

wintry dew
#

Yeah pretty much

dapper chasm
#

Strategic, sure, but less gamey

wintry dew
#

The best part is when you play well but the fact they play badly is better.
Example: you get stormbolted and feared at almost the same time, you ofc will trinket the stormbolt, just to be randomly fucked by the fear that in a normal scenario wouldn't make sense being there

dapper chasm
#

I don't have a clue what you just said

#

3 classes got added since I last played

wintry dew
#

Phone fucking me up

#

Stormbolt = warrior ST stun

dapper chasm
#

I just have head-cannon for all the new shit - that's "Warrior of Justice stun"

wintry dew
#

Do you understand now what I meant?

dapper chasm
#

Yes

#

But I would keep an eye on priest position or lock cast

#

So I would not fall for that like a pro

wintry dew
#

I would imagine the lock fear to be on my partner p.e

dapper chasm
#

And not check target? You're mad

#

MAD

wintry dew
#

You have /focus macros

#

You don't need to target

dapper chasm
#

I meant arena target to see what they're fearing

wintry dew
#

Yet, lock could be targeting me while casting fear on my partner

dapper chasm
#

btw, is there a list somewhere of all the new walls/evasions so I can update my buff tracker?

dapper chasm
wintry dew
#

Yet

#

If I didn't trinket the stun, I would have gotten DR'ed by two ccs for no reason

#

So their play was bad

dapper chasm
#

Look, I just see people blow everything on the opener

#

And hope for the best

wintry dew
#

That's the way to go yes xD

dapper chasm
#

If I can get back to 2.2k/2k I'll be hapy

wintry dew
#

Also solo shuffle is a thing now in case you haven't played it

dapper chasm
#

It's ALL I've played

#

Got like 1000 games in

#

Still getting used to shit, but I'm starting to "see" what's going on more

untold remnant
#

with a hpal

minor cape
#

Venruki releases a guide on arcane mage

#

says

#

"its the least played spec in pvp right now"

#

opens graph where its actually outlaw rogue

#

😭

untold remnant
#

Disarm him!

languid ravine
#

He didnt forget Outlaw, he explicitly said "except for tank specs"

#

and even if he did, that Outlaw % graph is like one pixel tall OMEGAKEKW

untold remnant
#

He applied a correction now, it has a textbox insert (*2nd least played)

stoic spruce
#

I wonder why it's not played

#

All the arcane mages I've seen have been melting steel beams

languid ravine
#

man of course the day I hit 70 on my mage is the day where ALL three world pvp quests offer ..reputation

wary spire
minor cape
#

and i bet most mages like playing fire more

languid ravine
#

I love the heck out of Frost currently

stoic spruce
languid ravine
#

never loved a spec so early into trying it

minor cape
#

presses ray of frost

#

look mom im a caster!!!

languid ravine
#

honestly that shit way out of line with the rest of the spec

#

but hey not my problem OMEGAKEKW

minor cape
#

yeah true, its good rn

#

before rework you had to cast those long ass glacial spikes

#

and pray it hits hard

languid ravine
#

fuck me I bought season one wpvp item (408) gollUMM

stoic spruce
#

How?

wary spire
#

There's 2 sellers there for some reason.

stoic spruce
#

Oh wpvp lol

#

Yeah thats dumb

minor cape
#

oh yeah guess who bought a pve tier set at the start of 10.1 for his 1.6k token

stoic spruce
#

You!

minor cape
#

yes

stoic spruce
languid ravine
minor cape
#

why would they fucking add pve gear into a pvp token vendor

languid ravine
#

oof female vulpera have intentionally annoying voicelines

tawny kestrel
minor cape
#

oh oke

wary spire
languid ravine
#

that should have been the racial ability

stoic spruce
minor cape
languid ravine
#

can someone explain why this macro wont work?
#showtooltip
/use [nomod] Blinzeln
/use [mod:alt] Verzerrung
/use [mod:shift] Verzerrung
Verzerrung is the "return to location before you blinked" mage talent

#

it even shows the correct icon when I press alt, but no cooldown

#

ah, it fetches the wrong spell id, same spell but different cooldown and duration

jaunty ether
#

Guys, is there still some decent amount of world pvp in dragonflight ? thinking about coming back to the game

restive hemlock
#

I run into other players pretty regularly but I don't think it'd be worth coming back if your only interest is world pvp. It's very rare that the fights aren't extremely one sided

jaunty ether
#

I'm a bit hesitant. I'm currently playing on classic era and loving the wpvp in it. But there aren't THAT MANY players, especially only a few WSGs up at any given point, and no other BGs. On the other hand there's Dragonflight, but it seems the world is a bit empty again, and so the only option is basically spamming arenas or BGs while staying in a city

pale storm
#

I like to go to the world pvp quests and sit in stealth and kill players trying to do the quests. Definitely can make your own world pvp.

surreal barn
#

So many warriors now lol

#

THEY HAVE RESURFACED

jaunty ether
minor cape
#

i dont get why did they give such huge buffs to fury tho

#

it was already very good

pale storm
gritty heart
#

hey guys

#

im stock between sporclock or that 90% buff

surreal barn
#

Get both and swap when you know you’re gonna get trained all match

minor cape
#

i mean why take sporecock on one of the most unkillable specs

jolly sierra
#

sporecock is something used by squishy specs like assa or ww monks

minor cape
#

hahaaaa goteeem

#

now we rollin like that

last jasper
#

haven't played for a few days. and q time are back to 30 min. the hell

jolly sierra
#

welcome to the club kek

minor cape
#

now time for my dh upgrading

#

panda do you know why is that you have to throw glaive on cd?

#

from a guide i saw

#

what does throwing it on cd even do

jolly sierra
#

to join combat? idk

#

or maybe for the bleeding dot

minor cape
#

yeah like the dot is there

#

the guy from the guide said you have to like

#

throw it on cd, but it doesnt do shit

jolly sierra
#

AHHH I CHECKED

#

nono

#

look

#

ppl receive 20% more dmg if u throw the glaive at 1st

#

according to talents

#

w my monk i need to fae stomp to do that

minor cape
#

but it increases by 10% for 20 sec

jolly sierra
#

pick 2 points

minor cape
#

wym

jolly sierra
#

2/2 increases by 20%

minor cape
#

nah, i just thought for some reason you were a dh player

jolly sierra
#

eww

minor cape
#

ahhhhh

#

i see which one it is

#

its for 6 sec

#

thats why on cd

#

got it

#

ty g

jolly sierra
#

literal just opened wowhead talents and checked 1 by 1

minor cape
#

sorry i entered dh mode

#

and became illiterate

jolly sierra
#

2 buttons

surreal barn
#

2 warriors and a BM

#

Managed a 3-3

jolly sierra
#

nice

surreal barn
#

Flarkness talkin smack

#

In his defense I thought i was goose egging it

last jasper
minor cape
#

oooh

#

rend stacks

#

🤔🤔🤔

last jasper
#

I actually don't like glave build. As much as I love soulrend to be back, glave build feels clunky and starved

minor cape
#

yeah thats weird that you kinda have to use an ability that was put there fun on cd lol

#

kinda like if rogue bursted with shuriken toss or some shit

last jasper
#

well, souldrend was op back in legion. thats why they took it away

#

But back than u only needed to keep the dot and not stacking it like today for 50 rage

minor cape
#

dh was even more cracked?

last jasper
#

Oh yes

#

mate, they had 100% evasion every sweep strike

#

lmao. isn't they were trying to incrase prices like 2 month ago? 😄

minor cape
#

damn dude

last jasper
#

is it longer now?)

stoic spruce
#

The evasion is still bugged on it too

last jasper
#

yea, everytime dh pop evasion is like 100%

minor cape
#

nah still 6s i think or 8

last jasper
#

oh, u meant evasion every 6s. yea, nuts

#

nerf ray frost they said

shut solstice
#

this is getting out of hand

#

holy evokers

#

whats next, outlaw evokers?

jolly sierra
#

holy evokers wtf

wary spire
#

Oh nice, holy evkokers can be humans.

dense harness
#

Any assa rogue that streams a bit on twitch?

dapper chasm
#

They can't get OBS working - too many buttons

bold bison
#

man wtf is with the MMR decay in this game?? I haven't PvPed this patch but all my characters are queueing shuffle with honor blues at 2.1k mmr

#

I need to sit 30 min queues to go 0-6 so I can get to an MMR with other people in bad gear

jolly sierra
#

oh at least u are not with r1 like me in week 1

shut solstice
jolly sierra
#

why tf dk pustules hits 45k each

#

at same fkn time

queen geyser
#

We take those?

languid ravine
#

whowhoaohowa a god amongst humen

nova viper
#

SEEEXOOOOOOO

nova viper
jolly sierra
stoic spruce
#

Any negative winrate gamers?

languid ravine
#

yeah I'm 25% winrate on my frostmage starege

minor cape
#

but we still climbed to 1750 so it's oke

#

we also played a lot of barely working double dps comps

#

and now every time someone is salty at me in shuffle they have to bring this up even tho my shuff winrate is like 54-55

wary spire
#

We lost A LOT.

minor cape
#

thats how lfg is

#

no way you are having a positive winrate in 2s as rogue by going lfg lololo

dapper chasm
languid ravine
#

Conan - the barbie doll?

harsh steppe
#

ugh i'm not sure what to do, loving plater, but having some issues with trying to turn off the cd timer on the auras above their name, also i am seeing some side auras for CC/important stuff just like bigdebuffs, only sometimes it shows different ones that BD doesn't show which is nice, but it's confusing having both, so im not sure if i should turn off omnicd or get rid of plater

#

i'm also having issues with discord randomly popping up mid match because of the stupid ~ hotkey, but can't find how to disable it

surreal barn
#

doesn’t sound like a good morning

#

Might be time for an add-on audit and get rid of stuff that is showing you the same information twice

harsh steppe
#

yah =/ which would you get rid of, plater or bigdebuffs

dapper chasm
#

Plater is a far more comprehensive package

#

But if you're new I strongly recommend using the presets on wago.io

harsh steppe
#

what presets? i have a lot of WAs

dapper chasm
#

Like WAs, you can get Plater packages

magic schooner
#

playing shuffle with sub

#

makes me want to gouge my eyes out

#

jesus

#

christ

minor cape
#

its fine dude

#

go oneshot a motherfucker in a bomb and make healer rage by giving him a 20 second stun chain or some shit

#

🤩

magic schooner
#

half the problem is that everytime you do well against a healer with a cc chain at low cr

#

they rage bail before you get the points lol

minor cape
#

just an unlucky lobby its fine

harsh steppe
#

also why does this macro keep targeting different players it's really fucking me up

minor cape
#

thats a weird macro overall wtf does it do

magic schooner
#

its a resap/stealth macro

#

whats the beahvior of targetenemyplayer?

#

I can't imagine literally any reason to use that specific api call

potent pivot
#

Generally targets the closest player

harsh steppe
#

it's my stealth but also open gate stealth sap finder clicker

minor cape
#

thats complicated as hell

#

why not just targetenemyplayer sap as another button

#

for spam

harsh steppe
#

ig ill do that

#

ty

magic schooner
#

classic blizzard

harsh steppe
#

ahh

magic schooner
#

honestly until that point that's how stealth should work

minor cape
#

so like, the idea is have safe stealth macro

magic schooner
#

but blizzard devs too busy doing important stuff

minor cape
#

and then when you stealthed

#

you just have spam sap

magic schooner
#

target nearest enemy and sap

#

nah its like

#

the gcd you stealth

#

it'll also sap

#

so if you're racing to stealth/sap someone

#

you're wayyyy more likely to get it

minor cape
#

nah thats pretty cool

harsh steppe
minor cape
#

but why cancel shadow dance then

#

cause like

#

you can sap put of sd

magic schooner
#

I'd change the tooltip to stealth

#

personally

#

as seeing the sap icon provides no benefit

harsh steppe
#

oh ok good idea other than that it's ok?

magic schooner
#

mines looked like this for like

#

5ish years

#

I dunno seems fine ot me

harsh steppe
#

ok tysm

minor cape
#

whats with cancelaura shadow dance, would you even want to restealth with shadow dance up ever

surreal barn
#

Rare, I could see it though

harsh steppe
#

honestly not sure i was told to put it in there dracthyr_shrug

magic schooner
#

anytime you want to restealth and its up

minor cape
#

idk never happened to me but im very green in this game

#

🤩

magic schooner
#

its more comon in bgs

#

but it'll happen a bunch in arenas as well

minor cape
#

like, i play 6 second dance and if i pop it then im in combat

#

and if im not its a weird situation

minor cape
#

if another rogue vanishes

#

you loose combat?

magic schooner
#

or even just you kill the other guy

#

now you're sitting around outta combat can't stealth

minor cape
#

oh gotcha

harsh steppe
#

hmm i should probably take it off my Stealth2 macro perhaps then, because although sometimes i want to cancel shadow dance for stealth, sometimes i press the same key just to sap, that could be fucking me up too

minor cape
#

nah you see

#

it will only put you out of dance if you are not in combat

#

so it wont fuck you up

minor cape
magic schooner
#

is there a content creator that has multiple brain cells for sub on youtube?

#

I feel like I'm either missing something with this spec

#

or it is actually rank garbage

minor cape
#

this spec is good

#

pikaboo, nahj

magic schooner
#

bro pikabook more than 1 brain cell?

#

I dunno mane

#

2 maybe

minor cape
#

dude he went like 25-0 on blizzcon

#

like 2 weeks ago on sub

#

🤔

#

i think thats enough brain cells

restive hemlock
#

Palumor also has some decent content

minor cape
#

true

magic schooner
#

the actual damage spec stuff

#

I'm seeing it come together

#

and this spec is still not 'great' imo even with the cheese 1shot

#

this is gimmicky as hell

#

and requires like 12 pieces to work

cobalt pewter
magic schooner
#

LOL

#

MUD you know I'm a warrior player

cobalt pewter
magic schooner
#

I don't respect mages or rogues, it's just policy

#

na mean

#

at least Palumor had the decency to make it a swifty 1 shot video

wintry dew
#

What you doing here then? xD

magic schooner
#

farming transmog alright

#

its a good looking set

surreal barn
#

Warrior together smart

magic schooner
#

do you remember s1 shadowlands rogue set?

#

hella ugly

wintry dew
#

Got them all :3

#

And yeah pretty ugly

magic schooner
#

the warrior/dk discords are like

#

super legit

#

there's always back alley info

#

probably cause MUDS terminally online

#

lol

wintry dew
#

There isn't in rogue's one?

magic schooner
#

nah

#

it's not very good compared to those two tbh

#

mage discord has the same problem

wintry dew
#

But pvp wise or?

magic schooner
#

oh just the pvp chanel

#

I hung up my raiding boots and now I raid IRL

wintry dew
#

Pvp wise we aren't bad, we have some good fellas like @pale storm

magic schooner
#

might be timing

#

I've been around at aussie hours

#

like I reckon

#

I asked like 3-4 times in here for info on the rogue stuff and got basically meme answers each time

#

until just now

wintry dew
#

What did you ask btw?

magic schooner
#

well I asked like a warrior so I basically said

#

'rogue is bad'

#

but I reckon that's a fair way to ask

wintry dew
#

I can see the meme answers yeah

magic schooner
#

though to be fair, half the reason rogue feels like shit is because of all the fucking warriors running around shockwaving like no tomorrow

wintry dew
#

You gotta take the channel seriously if you want serious answers :3

#

@potent pivot will help you out if he's online for sure

pale storm
#

What info you looking for?

wintry dew
#

But tldr sub good, assa alright, outlaw has seen better days

#

Sorry for pinging you blake

#

Was just letting wolfsmind know we have quite good players here

magic schooner
#

I'm learning

#

about the big cheeses round these parts

#

frankly as a rogue player

#

you disgust me

#

but its not personal

cobalt pewter
magic schooner
#

😛

pale storm
#

I probably 1v2d you in a skirmish, so it’s fair hate

magic schooner
#

oh nah

#

I don't do skirmishes

pale storm
#

Hehe I’m messing

magic schooner
#

you'd probably hard fuck me up on my mains though

#

dk still getting eatten by rogues in 1v1 these days isnt it?

restive hemlock
magic schooner
#

lol

#

warriors a fucking weird spec/arms in particular

#

it's either balanced/under powered and feels gigabrain to make it work

#

or even slightly overtuned and braindead

cobalt pewter
#

arms warrior takes the most brain power to make work

#

out of every spec

magic schooner
#

definitely the coolest spec in the game

restive hemlock
#

I really like arms. Can't really stand fury after playing it the last couple seasons of shadowlands. Don't have the time for multiple chars these days anyway though so... rogue4lyfe

pale storm
#

Sub rogue is in this weird place right now where you only really do meaningful damage during dance as CDR/Rotten, however in casual/SS it’s really easy to just get CCd on your dances without communication/cross CC. I can definitely see newer players having a really hard time. However we have so much CC/defensives and if you aren’t CCd on your go, you are just insane.

magic schooner
#

the 2 main problems I see

restive hemlock
magic schooner
#

are when I style on healers they rage bail

#

so I've missed like ~5 great lobbies of points

#

and people just sending random stuns constantly

pale storm
#

I’m giving Assa 3s a go this week fellas, wish me luck 🙏🏽 time to get that long neck glad mount

wintry dew
#

Please keep us updated

harsh steppe
#

what are yall's thoughts on this
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restive hemlock
#

Don't use sequence macros

wintry dew
#

Get cc'ed -> there goes the macro

restive hemlock
#

It doesn't make you a better player. If you get CC'd during it, it completely F's it up. And again, you aren't improving

harsh steppe
#

that's what i was kinda thinking

restive hemlock
#

You can look through it and see what order you should be pressing stuff. But don't rely on just pressing 1 button and thinking you're improving

restive hemlock
magic schooner
#

related

#

anyone know how to get rid of this frame

#

advice on reddit was bunk

harsh steppe
#

fatalarenaframes

restive hemlock
#

Thank you sir. Will def try that tonight

#

Ugliest frames ever

magic schooner
harsh steppe
#

nope! just takes away the arena frames

harsh steppe
magic schooner
#

rest of it aint too tricky

#

led me astray

#

hmmmm

#

here's a contenious question

#

how outdated is the following macro;

restive hemlock
#

I wouldn't use that. You'll want seperate bindings for em

magic schooner
#

yeah 100%

minor cape
#

imagine calling rogue evil while playing the most ungodly class (warrior)

magic schooner
#

mate rogue is just a sneaky warrior in tight pants

#

it's literally just worse

minor cape
#

i mean if you are talking about outlaw then sure

#

Playing warrior is a sin - Gen 11:26

magic schooner
magic schooner
#

alright you'veconvinced me, rogue discords alright

minor cape
restive hemlock
minor cape
#

you 100% sometimes kidney from stealth

#

especially with first dance (idk if stance 1/2 is shadow dance too)

magic schooner
#

this is my predicament

#

I kinda wanna put kidney on 4, maybe 5

restive hemlock
#

I have Kidney on 4

magic schooner
#

move SnD to 6, and shroud to Shift+6

harsh steppe
#

my kidney is also 4

minor cape
#

i have kidney on ctrl+r ama?

surreal barn
#

Take shroud and pull it off the bar

magic schooner
#

ctrl is my focus mod

restive hemlock
#

Shrouds fun in random BGs

magic schooner
harsh steppe
#

wtf random maint?

restive hemlock
#

Yea that's why I just use focus macros instead of arena1-3

minor cape
#

but shuriken on 1 is super unhinged

surreal barn
#

Yeah but you really don’t need it taking up space, bind it on an invisible bar

restive hemlock
#

yea it's not used much. Mines Shift-6 for that reason lol

magic schooner
#

for me its like

#

2/3 most important binds

restive hemlock
#

pretty much only used to keep someone in combat or to build CPs before a go

magic schooner
#

4/5 next

#

1/6 minor cds, aoe random spells, etc

surreal barn
#

This isn’t warrior all your binds are important

magic schooner
#

but cause I'm a dk main, shuriken maps well to outbreak

magic schooner
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rate my key binds -
ctrl + r on kidney
ctrl + f on cheapshot
shift + 3 on blind
ctrl + x on disarm
5 for target friendly player

restive hemlock
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How do you focus kidney/cheapshot/blind?

magic schooner
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this is by far, the best macro I've ever seen

minor cape
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i dont have focus kidney and cheap, i just tab to that. My focus blind is ctrl + additional mouse btn

magic schooner
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3 abilities, 1 bind, no modifiers, all context

magic schooner
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little niche in arena, but more about keeping the ctrl binding specific to focus where possible

minor cape
minor cape
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peak warrior performance

surreal barn
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Mud made you that didn’t he

magic schooner
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nah I used to have a lot more time for the game

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years ago

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that was in my serious raiding days

minor cape
harsh steppe
magic schooner
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it's my finest weakaura work

minor cape
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i swear if they add 1 more button to rogue im going to have to hookup my guitar pedals as keybinds or some shit

harsh steppe
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lmao
get a razer mouse, it's a god send

magic schooner
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prints out a list of players, and their targets - IF they're on a target other than your target
formats it by class colour

restive hemlock
minor cape
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true true

restive hemlock
minor cape
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oh oke, i have those as binds

magic schooner
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wait

minor cape
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and walk on AD

restive hemlock
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Yea I just got used to using those instead of turning so just rebound em

magic schooner
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important rogue/melee player question

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where you kids

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bind flag of ownership?

minor cape
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click