Got back to 1500 after dropping to 1300 and still strugglin'.
#pvp
wary spire
Today's the day tho. Today is when I get to 1600 to no longer be pantsless.
That or drop to 1200 
shut solstice
Today's the day tho. Today is when I get to 1600 to no longer be pantsless.
The grind to 1600 in SS is real
agile leaf
just take socket?
languid ravine
Assa with full mastery and 2Set feels pretty good, you actually do damage if you somehow live
and dont use vendetta on a dark iron gonk
wary spire
The grind to 1600 in SS is real
I hate it. But it's so addicting.
shut solstice
I hate it. But it's so addicting.
I got chewed out for being outlaw a few days back
wary spire
I won't quit until I get to my mog goshdarnit
shut solstice
Felt great
languid ravine
I m telling you, only play when you feel it save yourself some nerves and you ll improve more while you enjoy game as opposed to tilting and facepalming at everything
languid ravine
:^D I would be mad too
shut solstice
Her and I got to 1600 last night rdruid/outlaw. We try to get 1800 every season but god damn it’s hard this time around.
wintry dew
Inflation isn't here yet
shut solstice
Inflation isn't here yet
It’s hard to know that I’m a better player than I was last season, but can’t hit the same rating. I know at some level ratings don’t translate but damn
I also recognize outlaw tier is not as ballin as it was for S1.
languid ravine
Outlaw is not as balling in general
you might have better results with Druid
...guardian druid 
harsh steppe
gm
shut solstice
Outlaw is not as balling in general
Man. One day. We will return to our greatness.
wintry dew
Last season i got to 2.2 as assa in SS. This season i could barely hit 1.6 playing sub
spring bough
I’m ready for the 11th to start hitting solo hard as outlaw
shut solstice
I’m ready for the 11th to start hitting solo hard as outlaw
How do you feel about the 9%?
I think it’s enough to make us competitive
spring bough
I like it
I think I might go in tryna be a disrupter take all the BF talents cause of this new grand melee
I ran a lot of keys with KIR last night might even try that in some rateds. Dispatch goes crazy
Only thing I don’t like about that for arena is taking dreadblades cause it’s -5% HP every finisher
languid ravine
Classic Battleground: Win 5/5 zergs: then afk mid and lose to points x)
swarm intelligence off the charts
lucid citrus
Anyone tried sub today? Is sectec nerf noticeable?
languid ravine
dude I just almost missed queue because of closing my window
wary spire
You need to be sweaty to win!
jolly sierra
that sounds like a kangaroo being carried by mum
wary spire
At least that's an affordable real-estate.
surreal barn
languid ravine
you dont get it its a friendship system and you can earn friendship by recommending friends to do friendly acts of friendliness
languid ravine
aaaaaaaand tooodaaaay in this week's P_V_P BRAAAAAAAAWLLLL
Queue for 40mins and join the losing team 5 seconds before defeeaat!
You like de feet dont choo?
taz dingo mon
languid ravine
why dont boomkins play disarm at elite ranks? its like insane only 30 seconds cooldown
Just kidding.. there are no melees at top ranks anyways
obsidian moon
Dispelable
jolly sierra
MOM GET THE CAMERA
gratz son
obsidian moon
Only good into sub rogue
jolly sierra
how tf u claimed u were a 1k player? lol
jolly sierra
with that self esteem xddd
surreal barn
I can feel the sectec nerf
wary spire
I just wish i could make it to 1800 by the end of the season. 
jolly sierra
u will tho
wary spire
I need to complete my de-clownification
jolly sierra
clownificate ur shoulders too
wary spire
I have 5 set now
wary spire
pick the shoulders then
Wait i thought you believed in meh! >:D
last jasper
pick the shoulders then
Good thinking
jolly sierra
Good thinking
ngl if im a person which hates helms i would pick shoulders to complete the set i like all the times
last jasper
Same. But current rogue helm is quite good
wary spire
Tru
last jasper
How are u still running blue gear, mate? And yea, 450 gives quite good dam.
wary spire
How are u still running blue gear, mate? And yea, 450 gives quite good dam.
Bad financial decisions.
last jasper
But weekly strife r free?
wary spire
These 3 bad boys drained all of me money
I've crafted head, tank-cloak, ring, 2 boots
Looks like non-dfa evis does like 150-170 on avarage?
Wonder how i lowballed 140 that one time with dfa
wary spire
Weh
twin cave
random question, which spec wpuld you guys take if you have 4 set, and is the 4 set worth it in the long run?
minor cape
aint no way dfa is the play
jolly sierra
that was the play in wod
when sub was actually decent design wise
got an aggresive goblin rogue in a wpvp wq and massacrated him 3 times
he was playing assa too
languid ravine
Guys, Boomkin is so easy that I win 6 out 4 rounds with it on average
150% winrate
minor cape
dfa is bad cause you already have so many talents you want
idk how it was in wod, maybe it wasnt a pvp talent?
languid ravine
I think it was
it used to do like 3-4 times the damage of one Killing Spree nowadays
I beleive it gave you something like rootbreak or stun immune or someshing
jolly sierra
in wod was the final row talent i recall
or the 2nd end row
also boosted evis dmg for like 50% instead 10
but ngl i would love to have it in talent tree
minor cape
also you cant dfa on the last second of shadow dance cause you might be late
languid ravine
idk it is janky, messes with your camera, and lets you fall through the floor half the time
minor cape
but thats with sectech too
jolly sierra
i've never feel in floor w that tbh
languid ravine
with sectec you can press another dance kek :^)
minor cape
but cmon imagine you based your build on dfa and you see a warrior against you where you want cloak disarm bomb and bargain already
🥹
jolly sierra
ofc
mostly use that shit in caster matches
now manuv is dead bruh
the new devs hate us do they lol
languid ravine
ironically you dont need maneuv because casters are so op they can just stand still and do their rotation
minor cape
i barely ever used maneuv when it was good
minor cape
well
i took it when there was nothing else to take
like you had duel bomb baseline
and disarm or maneuv
jolly sierra
u cant disarm the mages all time u know
minor cape
at the point where i got rooted i usually just vanished cause i played rotten lol
and i would press it and do my go anyway
but i suck ass so maybe thats why
jolly sierra
eksdee
languid ravine
Evoker doing 3 mil damage / 110k per second is fucking gross
jolly sierra
balanced
wary spire
Have they got buffed again or what?
wary spire
Are you na or eu?
languid ravine
eu
gleaming pawn
it's really cute how they think this will have any positive impact on getting healers to queue for Shuffle
wary spire
Well at least it can be used on alts. So the system is made for healers to switch off healers more comfortably
wary spire
I'm already sleep!
wary spire
That's what happens when you're not sleep!
You wanted me to invite your discord alt here or what? 
jolly sierra
nono
i wanna get invited with my alt to a party with my main
its low, need him to go FL
but group finder is restricted to level 50
xddddddddddd
wary spire
Fine I'll load up wow sec
wary spire
wary spire
Reported for afk
jolly sierra
nooooooooooooooooooo
cmon fkn potato laptop log faster
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
gotcha
read ur chat log now
wary spire
Man that is kinda depressing
wanton breach
mage-disarming, potato-laptopping panda
bleak slate
Other than boots, what embleished items are you guys going for for assassination?
jolly sierra
sporecloak
jolly bear
finally got 4 set
jolly sierra
gratz
jolly sierra
up to u tho
jolly bear
nice, not complete dogshit from my vault on both characters this week finally
austere thorn
any1 have the command to increase max camera zoom out?
google is giving me conflicting answers
spring bough
did a KIR build without KIR to pickup float and it did decent
27k flurry for the KB has my crying laughing
lil diff build hit a nice 5-1 felt pretty good
keen dune
is 107 mastery too much? 👀
jolly sierra
percent or amount?
keen dune
%
jolly sierra
nah its ok
keen dune
should I go higher?
I pve so I am thinking of using the neck from raid with like 1k mastery on it
jolly sierra
how much versa do u have?
quaint cedar
did a KIR build without KIR to pickup float and it did decent
I did see that summarily dispatched is getting another tiny buff alongside the 9% overall buff we're getting in 10.1.5
So I wonder if a build like that would actually be good in arena in the new patch
spring bough
I did see that summarily dispatched is getting another tiny buff alongside the 9...
having a blast w this build right now
spring bough
I did see that summarily dispatched is getting another tiny buff alongside the 9...
this build is legit hit another 5-1 almost back to rival as outlaw
89k dispatch not too shabby and thats without cold blood, could pick that up too if i got rid of 1/2 seal fate
chrome schooner
cold blood doesn't make the crit do more dmg
spring bough
oh i know but dispatch crit % would be so much higher if running it
quaint cedar
Man idk if I'm just doing something wrong on the training dummy but my damage is significantly worse running the KiR build
spring bough
it crit 45% of the time if i was running CB that would prob be in the 60's
quaint cedar
vs the standard ambush build
spring bough
i ran prob 8 hours straight of keys with KIR to get the rotation down lmao
spring bough
first key i did i was last on dmg lol
quaint cedar
on the KiR build I feel like I'm always energy starved
spring bough
yup all the time lol gotta rely on the dreadblade
having 1/2 seal fate feels nice get some extra CPs
quaint cedar
Yeah just went back to my old build and I'm doing easy 62k dps on the pvp dummy vs 45k dps with the KiR build
pretty big difference there lol
spring bough
idk why it feels crap on training dummies but it does perform lol
quaint cedar
I even tried 2/2 seal fate and was still at 0 energy constantly
spring bough
finally did aberrus the other day and just did it again today with the build and it is hella fun this buff gonna be real nice for us
quaint cedar
yeah I do think the 9% will make a huge difference
I'm currently at 1903 in 2s
going to gun for 2k hard after those buffs
if I don't get it by then
honestly though most games we lose I'm just barely off from getting a kill
so a 9% overall damage buff can make a huge difference
keen dune
how much versa do u have?
like 30%
spring bough
yeah man this last arena i lost when other team had a dps at 1% in the first round coulda been a 6-0 lmao
quaint cedar
exactly. every time that happens now I just think, if I had those buffs, that would have been a kill
spring bough
im making sure i am off work that week before we get nerfed cause itll prob happen like it did to ret
quaint cedar
I had a 2s last time I played where the rsham was at like 10% HP and between outlaw damage being lackluster and the warrior peeling I just could not finish him off
jolly sierra
like 30%
well, if you won't sacrifice the versa below that amount then sure keep raising the mastery
quaint cedar
then warr pops his CDs and just insta deletes my monk from full HP lmao
vocal surge
wanton breach
going to gun for 2k hard after those buffs
outlaw got buffed?
minor cape
89k dispatch not too shabby and thats without cold blood, could pick that up too...
you fellas run cold blood?
if so why not use it on pistol shot
🤔
wouldn't it be more dam?
(i tried to get into outlaw but im bad)
wary spire
So, is st deadge?
wintry dew
You wait
wary spire
Yesterday I killed dk with 900k. He almost died in a stun.
Tanks take increased damage in pvps.
wary spire
"We won't buff it now because we're planning changes!"
A month later
"We forgot outlaw changes" 
"Fuck it flat 9% from pve should do it kek"
Is bf rtb buff still making it to live btw?
It was fairly controversial.
minor cape
outlaw is actually so fking awful
i guess no flat 9% will fix this
9% is such a funny number - it's like they thought naaaah 10% would be too much
cursive umbra
they are back though the pvp bears
"they are back"? how many encounters have we had?
i really dont want this to be true
wary spire
I thought sub buffs will do nothing and they became op op. I though outlaw buffs were great and they turned out to be literal dog water.
I've learned my lesson, I won't think anymore.
tawny kestrel
they need to buff outlaw damage a lot if its gonna be any good in shuffle
only good thing atm is cc
wary spire
How trinket set nerf was treating you btw?
tawny kestrel
not something youll ever actually notice
topaz cedar
they need to buff outlaw damage a lot if its gonna be any good in shuffle
im still sad bte stun is gone
oblique geyser
End of day 1 havoc. 2k solo shuffle.
Demo locks feel like they flop. And I don’t feel scared about training sps anymore
languid ravine
battleground after 20 sec: dracthyr 7mil damage, 19 other players combined: 4mil damage
slender cargo
yoo how rogues rn ? wanna come back to df
minor cape
yoo how rogues rn ? wanna come back to df <:starege:923197272064426075>
sub is good
slender cargo
nice
languid ravine
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minor cape
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damn! where do i signup
i want to make a shuffle queue and this queue race
languid ravine
yea man we can place bets for real ingame gold money
languid ravine
upgrade medaillon or just take +1 socket at this point? 
acoustic junco
Depends on when you think they are unlocking conquest gain.
Medallion is a better upgrade but socket is better if you think they are removing conquest cap in a month
languid ravine
thing is, cap is already high and with 2 free crafted pieces and 1 free set piece, and the one or two scalewarden pieces seems like I m almost done gearing, even on this character I started 3 weeks behind
supple pulsar
cosmic seal
Heya
How does the sub nerf feels ?
minor cape
it brings us one step closer to playing no sec tech (which some people already do anyway)
wary spire
I made a tmw to show when I have thiefs bargain debuff now.
And decided to give up st. Not because I know it's not worth it, but because I don't want to feel bad due to the nerf.
dusky quartz
hardstuck AF just need the 2k1 enchant ffs 😢
wise breach
Goddamn that's a lot of rounds played, I tip my hat to you
I have done two shuffles all season on my rogue 
Anyway, you got this, one good lobby and you're there
quaint cedar
outlaw got buffed?
Outlaw is getting a 9% overall damage buff in 2 weeks, yes.
shut solstice
Anyway, you got this, one good lobby and you're there
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
oblique geyser
Is that
shut solstice
One good lobby
That's around 27 days in Q
lol
assuming each Q took 25 min
oh wait 6 rounds per q.
oblique geyser
Wait I’m cooked
shut solstice
lol
oblique geyser
Ya you right
shut solstice
boy is out here putting in WORK
oblique geyser
Idk why I thought it was 608
Now it’s worse
LMFAO
Ya I gave up on rogue in solo shuffle. Hovered between 1950-2050 for like a week. Get a full melee lobby and lose 80 pts
Now I’m dh with like 60 rounds played at 2k
shut solstice
I really do enjoy shuffle for some reason
shut solstice
that boy played the game.
how long has the season been here? 7 weeks? a few hours a day in solo shuffle? not too crazy to think about
surreal barn
402 hours just in queue at 15 mins/queue
You might as well stream get that $
We’ll wait I didn’t divide by 6 - 67 hours
austere thorn
You can cancel eyebeam actually
languid ravine
whoa, hidden DH meta?
wanton breach
just use SL bandages as rogue to get your precog to get procced
jolly sierra
or fleshcraft
wary spire
I miss it.
jolly sierra
i was the kind of guy which casted it into vanish
oblique geyser
I see ferals using precog
Was doing some weird tech that looked good
Fake cyclone
Then get the buff and convoke someone
oblique geyser
I think it’s still good. Regardless
Can’t stop the convoke
Pretty cheesy prob will be a 2s thing only going forward
jolly sierra
the thing i got mad about precog is in shuffle
cuz both can interrupt at same time, one is successful
the other one trigger it
xd
oblique geyser
The thing that makes me mad
jolly sierra
dont @ me, u know it happens a lot
oblique geyser
Is casters are OP af regardless of precog
And melee get some stinky main stat proc
jolly sierra
isn't even that
is just a charging buff which hits by 34k after passing through 2 slows dr
jolly sierra
would love it
sand nest
nerfed sectec vs 4set evis still playing at all?
minor cape
nerfed sectec vs 4set evis still playing at all?
basically still hits the same by my experience playing today and mastery lost still not worth it
but maybe im wrong
sand nest
basically still hits the same by my experience playing today and mastery lost st...
idk maybe im dumb but evis hits way higher why is everyone playing sectec still
minor cape
how does it hit way higher
sand nest
numerically mlao
minor cape
if you compare on dummy evis hits 200k max and sec tech can go up to 340k
minor cape
you are doing smth wrong
if your sectech doesnt hit higher than evis
100%
maybe you are looking at a single hit of sectech
or whatever
oblique geyser
Prob looking at a single hit
gleaming trench
rupture doesn't remove stealth anymore
i was so hyped reading this but nope, still removes stealth with 2set.
dull plaza
Jesus...
scarlet shell
sub 2pc is so crazy holy heck
jolly sierra
got a guy into a rbg, a warr
used adaptative as tank and had like 600 cr with 70 SS rounds
minor cape
reached like 1680 in 2s as sub disc, this comp feels hard as fuck honestly, have like 50% winrate in 2 days
jolly sierra
and a dk calling another ones noobs, flexing for having 1k9 in rbg but using adaptative too
jolly sierra
force trinket and go w all after that
minor cape
yeah thats what im trying to do
maybe lack of exp with the comp
gonna keep playing 🫡
jolly sierra
is ur healer friend?
minor cape
he reached 1750 with fury
jolly sierra
assa is better w healer in 2s
jolly sierra
welp
jolly sierra
then dunno, tbh i've won every match against sub in 2s wiht my rog
minor cape
gotta git good
jolly sierra
at like 1k8 mmr pre inflation
jolly sierra
dunno then how i won every match against them
minor cape
the hard ones are surv + healer, shadowpriest + healer
well idk, ive only lost to disc assa because of some big mistakes lol
jolly sierra
think u should ask raz later
fathom dew
I play 2s as sub disc and we’re also around 1700. My priest plays more dmg spec tho which seems to help
Def doesn’t feel like it’s that great of a comp imo
fathom dew
Assa disc was easier
jolly sierra
the guy has glad xp, so at least for me felt easier
also was a guildie
so we coordinated everything
fathom dew
I think as sub disc you just gotta play pillar like bitches until burst
scarlet shell
i am sorry why was there a guardian druid in my game?
guardian druids are DPS now?
still won 5 rounds thanks to Smoke Bomb.
jolly sierra
cuz is trolling
wary spire
Kek
lucid citrus
is thief bargain worth taking now since its a 10% damage decrease?
pale storm
Yes
wary spire
God i hate battlegrounds
Fucking hate them
LeTs AlL gO sTaBlEs AnD lOsE AlL oThEr bAsEs
Fucking bronies
4 bgs all loses
That one looked promising NOPE
We're going on a magical adventure to Narnia
One warlock in epic bg was just punching turnip all game
ffs why
Why the hate for the vegetable, you're playing wow you probably never even ate a turnip
Leave the vegetable alone
light estuary
any1 here play RMP? do yall usually have your mage bust the opener? or save it for the 2nd/3rd goes?
to bust or not to bust, that is the question
oblique geyser
All depends on what u do
If you save blades and cbstec
you can easily solo a person with mage fireball perk thing
jolly sierra
One warlock in epic bg was just punching turnip all game
sounds like a bot lol
pale storm
yeah that sounds borderline bannable
ashen plume
Can someone explain to me why mastery is the stat to go for as outlaw pvp
river dawn
is assassination much less difficult compared to subtlety? i'm still learning pvp, but i'm also new to rogue, so i prefer to start off with a simpler spec. i'm interested in outlaw as well, but i've read that they're not in a good spot right now.
jolly sierra
yeah is easier
jolly sierra
the panda has a huge load of MMR rn
maybe i'll stay like that cuz i already capped w rbg and lfr
vocal surge
Can someone explain to me why mastery is the stat to go for as outlaw pvp
Hits hard
minor cape
is thief bargain worth taking now since its a 10% damage decrease?
yeah honestly after nerfs i didnt notice much difference at all
both with sectech and bargain
minor cape
Can someone explain to me why mastery is the stat to go for as outlaw pvp
crit was nerfed in 10.1 and mastery became better (idk about specifics)
but you can see now that mastery bonus hit is now a good portion of your damage
🫡
surreal barn
If you want to vanish + react it is really noticeable to me
Staggering blades isn’t bad it just feels clunky
oblique geyser
It’s prob more noticeable in solo then anything
surreal barn
Yeah
oblique geyser
Watching pika last night for awc qual
They could do two life bars worth of dmg on their clean gos
surreal barn
I believe it
oblique geyser
Just insane how long a chain for rps can go
Brings me back to the good days of talb reckful and starship
livid sparrow
nature damage is considered "true damage" ?
oblique geyser
Not that I am aware of but it does bypass armor I believe
wary spire
Staggering blades isn’t bad it just feels clunky
Is staggering blades worth in the opening?
I mean, won't they give you more damage through builders overall?
surreal barn
I mean you don’t have to but I just really notice the damage in shuffle, I did a couple 2v2 where you can rely on your partner and it’s not so bad to overlap
spring bough
Been PVEing patiently waiting to pvp as outlaw on the 11th
Gotta say PVE pretty fun this season. Keys and aberrus pretty easy to get geared out too
nova viper
looool
where i can convert my conq gear to set items? xD
I must do quest?
or something?
sharp sierra
Hey guys, new player and rogue here. Is vanish just absurdly bugged? It literally breaks my stealth like every time in pvp.
I’ve checked to make sure I’m not under any DoT. I’ve taken Cloaked in Shadows for the shield just in case. It doesnt matter what I do, in open-world pvp or BGs. It just breaks every time I use it after initiating combat.
Am I doing something wrong? lol
minor cape
undead?
sharp sierra
Blood elf
sharp sierra
I just have normal honor gear on atm
minor cape
then idk but maybe someone else knows
pale storm
I confused by what you wrote, you vanish then you Initiate combat? Like you vanish then auto attack?
Can you take a video of what’s happening?
shut solstice
Can someone explain to me why mastery is the stat to go for as outlaw pvp
I built a mastery set, and I just couldn’t get behind it. Went right back to crit. Just feels better to me.
I think mastery is great for cleaving, but for single target damage, I can’t seem to get away from the crit set.
sharp sierra
I confused by what you wrote, you vanish then you Initiate combat? Like you vani...
Sorry, I’ll try to clarify. I iniate on someone while stealth, run through cooldowns. I try to vanish and wait out cds, but after like 3 seconds it just breaks every time and I’m just sitting there unable to do anything. Even if I use my second charge, it just breaks again. Doesn’t matter if I have no DoTs on me, I’ve checked and it just seems to break for no reason.
Can’t do a video atm but I can after work
languid ravine
shit I went 6-0 twice in a row and now I m way out of my league xd
oblique geyser
Nice little 144 rating spike
thick slate
are ppl playing 2set on sub or are they going for 4set?
pale storm
Sorry, I’ll try to clarify. I iniate on someone while stealth, run through coold...
will need to see a video to figure it out, just take one when you get a chance and post hre, people can take a look and try help 🙂
thick slate
are ppl playing 2set on sub or are they going for 4set?
??
oblique geyser
No
cosmic seal
is the cloak worst to craft ?
dull plaza
Yea
thick slate
getting trolled here lmao
glad zinc
Hey guys, new player and rogue here. Is vanish just absurdly bugged? It literall...
It happens to me also, it's been bugged for awhile now.
tawny kestrel
are ppl playing 2set on sub or are they going for 4set?
just 2 set bro
sharp sierra
It happens to me also, it's been bugged for awhile now.
Really? That’s kind of… unfortunate…
surreal barn
we still running thieves in shuffle? I’ve had mixed feelings
tawny kestrel
we still running thieves in shuffle? I’ve had mixed feelings
with rotten yes definitely, if you don’t play rotten then no
surreal barn
with rotten yes definitely, if you don’t play rotten then no
Thanks
scarlet shell
i literally was taken out of stealth twice by just walking around a BGs
thankfully i did not get caught, but its hella annoying
thick slate
just 2 set bro
Ty
scarlet shell
10 second feints with Bargain is just too hard to pass
grave pier
Hey guys
got a question
why the fuck does omnibar never work for me
always forces me to relaod mid arena match
a way ro resolve this?
jolly sierra
yeah there is a way
uninstalling it and getting another similar addon
potent pivot
why the fuck does omnibar never work for me
It’s been pretty fucky since DF launch. You can try using the console command to stop getting add on/lua errors
languid ravine
-spend 80 honor medals on kyrian weapons
-cant use them
wary spire
a way ro resolve this?
I use gladiuSex now. Highly recommend it.
gleaming pawn
there has been some caching issues with addons like omnibar in the past, where even though you have downloaded the latest version, it still throws errors. I resolved this by uninstalling the addon completely, launch WoW, download the latest version and then re-launch or reload the UI in WoW
pale storm
streaming some skirmishes if anyone wants to watch?
disarmed a mage live on stream in a 1v1 win lol for the boys here
languid ravine
ayo based yolo swag
jolly sierra
disarmed a mage live on stream in a 1v1 win lol for the boys here
fuck why u didn't clipped that i was breakfasting REEEEEEEEEEEE
pale storm
fuck why u didn't clipped that i was breakfasting REEEEEEEEEEEE
I might be able to
pale storm
ok bet thanks
wary spire
jolly sierra
just come back from lunch
pale storm
clip it 😄
jolly sierra
pale storm
hahah my guy!
surreal barn
100 points to go for the enchant 🪄
jolly sierra
keep going
pastel burrow
"disarm him for the boys" so fucking based
jolly sierra
this guy is our boy in high end
pale storm
I am just a skirmish god lol
jolly sierra
kek
queen geyser
https://clips.twitch.tv/PlausibleRoundDinosaurUWot-Zg1WC3hhr6qP-vn4
Based
jolly sierra
ty blake u inspired me to disarm a mage
jolly sierra
ah dude btw
i was watching his streaming while i was clipping that
he is going priest sub
u can ask him if u wanna to tho
minor cape
@pale storm
mind telling about 2s disc sub a bit? Im at 1700 rn and going like 51 wr but feel like doing smth wrong
😩
trying to play it like i would double dps, like do goes off dr and try to stunchain
is the gameplan for sub disc same as double dps? Or should i try to sustain instead
also is it still cheat death over feint?
oblique geyser
100 points to go for the enchant 🪄
23 pts for my dh and I’m scared ima get some shit hole lobby
surreal barn
23 pts for my dh and I’m scared ima get some shit hole lobby
Was DH easier than rogue
Or about the same
oblique geyser
I hit 2083 in like 16 games
I think dh is like the best melee in solo shuffle now
oblique geyser
LOL
glimpse is so obnoxious for rogues in solo shuffle
Getting perma gunned down by havoc doing 55k
With spore cloak
safe agate
is there any reason to upgrade items that scale to 450 with honor?
surreal barn
Yeah sucked, and the other guy was a demo lock they ate him alive
harsh steppe
is there any reason to upgrade items that scale to 450 with honor?
not unless you care about pve
safe agate
is this bis embellishment? look weak imo, but idk
oblique geyser
its a ton of mastery at 450
and most of ur goes ur full health
You can also use sporecloak one
Not awful pretty good
safe agate
okay, thanks
safe agate
does the set bonus work on arenas?
pale storm
<@229460446665506816>
I was playing some no voice Sub/Disc today and we ended up at like 1900mmr I think - if you check my stream out I think there should be a vod of some games from today. Maybe check them out and then DM me any questions? I’ll do my best to answer. I plan to stream a lot more, I’ll try explain what I plan to do and my actions
pale storm
Always!
surreal barn
Had a 26 second healer cc chain
He accidentally trinked the duel
Proceeds to throw the last 3 of my games by jumping around not healing
oblique geyser
Report him lol
jolly sierra
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
surreal barn
lol no rogue changes
pale storm
wdym no changes? sub +4% dmg to ALL abilities lol
massive rework = 4% across the board I guess
ravenholdt meetup at blizzcon?
jolly sierra
sure, if i have money to travel lol
oblique geyser
just pay 800 dollars
to go meet the rogue dev
and ask him what the fuck is going on
queen geyser
Oh my god Outlaw feels absolutely awful with the trinket change
Went from down-but-not-out to unplayable just like that wow
Guess I'm playing Tower Unite until the 11th lmao
silent pilot
quick question, what is cap for mastery in pvp? is it worth going over 100%?
jolly sierra
thought u were pumping w outlaw posting all those details
queen geyser
thought u were pumping w outlaw posting all those details
Been running the ol' reliable build lately, with 7 CP. Might have to crack out the Cold Blood gimmicks again and see if it holds up
spring bough
this game is amazing. DC me during a solo round and then i logon to a blank chatacter screen lol
jolly sierra
lol got pikaboo in an epic bg kek
shut solstice
Went from down-but-not-out to unplayable just like that wow
Bro WHAT
Please be lying
Oh you’re saying it feels like shit rn. I thought you were talking ptr lol
queen geyser
Oh you’re saying it feels like shit rn. I thought you were talking ptr lol
Yeee the weird period between trinket nerf with no buffs
Although I did cook something monstrous and it did well in a random kotmogu
Then again
It's a random kotmogu
jolly sierra
gratz
oblique geyser
jolly sierra
im like this w the ret while im capping chests, just play till i won twice
w the rogue im inflating mmr rn and just going RBG
think i can slack and push for 2k1 in late patch
oblique geyser
I def felt the inflation this week
People in 2.1k were straight apes and I saw so many WWs that just went 1-5 0-6
twin obsidian
any of yall know what profession i need to put greater crest of honor on my leather leggings?
keen dune
2070 and just went 5-1
you give me hope
jolly sierra
jolly sierra
got a guy in a wq lauging at me as same faction in pvp
killed him like 3 times and 2 of them were in like 3 seconds
the guy complained cuz i was running to mobs with my warrior when i was defending myself xdd
(was to recharge impending victory kek)
last jasper
Smells like at least 3 day ban 😂
jolly sierra
what thing XD
jolly sierra
you are eu tho?
yeah this pikaboo seems like an alt acc
jolly sierra
netherwalk is physical, so no
harsh steppe
gm
wary spire
But is it?
IS IT?!
Went 2-4 two times with some healer going 5-1.
Exactly the same scenario. One healer can't keep up but one time pure zug works and a person on my team dies in seconds. 
surreal barn
That shuffle life is addicting
oblique geyser
Shuffle is so taxing
Nothing is worse than the times you get the dps that goes 0-5
And your partner dies without bubbling on free win
tawny kestrel
just gotta keep in mind that everyone has shit lobbies sometimes and it is what it is
harsh steppe
any tips on what i should upgrade/change next?
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/stormrage/Hyperdexia
pale storm
Scalewardens Belt, Sporecloak, Vers/Mastery crafted shoulders
harsh steppe
i thought if i want titanic ring, i can't use sporecloak?
i thought my life bound shoulders was bis?
i can get the belt tyty
chrome schooner
You cannot use more than 2 embellishments
But you can use as many crafted items as you like
As long as only 2 have an embellishment
harsh steppe
ohhh i thought the life bound and titanic ring were considered emblishments lol
harsh steppe
Scalewardens Belt, Sporecloak, Vers/Mastery crafted shoulders
what shoulders?
so just sporecloak & scalewarden's belt got it ty
torpid bough
can craft boots vers/mastery, so remove the pvp one crafted embelish that give 510 stats .. but CRIT/versa, then can craft sporecloak and ring with mastery bonus, idk if worth it
harsh steppe
wait what
surreal barn
Keep your infurious footwraps. They are good
harsh steppe
so i need a new pair of crafted boots, sporecloak, a different ring, shoulders
pale storm
when I click your link you don't have life-bound shoulders
you get 2 embellishments - the infurious boots, then you choose between putting the mastery above 90% hp or sporecloak - the mastery you can put on shoulders, or helm, or ring
you can craft as many pieces of gear as you have sparks/pvp trophies - so can craft perfect vers/mastery
can only have 2 embellishments (the effect type things) howervcer can have as many crafted as sparks/trophies
harsh steppe
oh woops i forgot i switched the shoulders out lol mb
yah everything is the same except i am using life bound shoulders
harsh steppe
when I click your link you don't have life-bound shoulders
you get 2 embellishme...
perfect i wanna stick with boots and ring then
so in that case i just need scalewarden's belt and that's it?
surreal barn
I’d get that cloak if you are having any trouble surviving
harsh steppe
ok tysm ❤️
surreal barn
The spore one
harsh steppe
sporecloak and scalewarden belt, got it, tysm!
surreal barn
Don’t forget you can enchant belt, shadowed belt clasp
harsh steppe
oh shit right! tytyty
harsh steppe
cap it
languid ravine
Fresh heal shaman: "Sorry guys in advance"
30 sec later starts lecturing me
jolly sierra
LFR that crap
yeah i was doing that lol
think im gonna skip a lot SS w the rog to farm inflation
surreal barn
How many points weekly do you expect to get off inflation?
jolly sierra
dunno, but ate the big injection from hotfix
so i expect like +200 mmr rn
dunno with more weeks passing
with my ret won 200 for example
surreal barn
Beware of the rogue counters coming on the 11th lol
Rogue counters rogue pretty well
jolly sierra
rogue vs rogue
surreal barn
I guarantee we’ll see more outlaws in our lobbies than we do now
surreal barn
They prob want to see how rogues are when paired with the new evoker class and balance around that
Imagine you throw down your kidney they buff the hell out of you and then you smoke them
Because that’s what I foresee
jolly sierra
thought that already happened
i had my pevoker allowing me to do 7s kidneys again
lol
surreal barn
lol true, I mean augmentation
jolly bear
im probably gonna sound stupid but i keep getting pulled out of vanish like pretty much instantly nad i dont know why
jolly bear
yeah its really making me mad
surreal barn
Is it possible your acrobatic strikes have you in unintentionally in combat
jolly sierra
now u feel how i am when rupture drags me out from stealth
surreal barn
The range is insane
jolly bear
i dont use that
jolly sierra
with the fkn 2set
jolly bear
i even use a stopattack macro vanish
shut solstice
I guarantee we’ll see more outlaws in our lobbies than we do now
I have legit not seen a single one in 2s this entire expansion.
Or in shuffle… but that’s mainly because I AM outlaw
jolly sierra
i had one once in a shuffle w my assa
and the guy wished me ill and being nerfed soon
languid ravine
dude I just played a 5v5 Brawl and it was evenly matched and super fun can you imagine that?
remember fun in Warcraft?
okay back to shuffle 
dusky quartz
is it me being bad or is an all melee lobby for assa rogue an automatic 0-6 1-5 as best ? feels impossible to survive the ret dh war tunneling you all game xD
languid ravine
yea, I did queue some BGs in the meantime but.. come on game
whoops, I accidentally uploaded my friends' screenshot.
Here is the real one
queen geyser
https://imgur.com/a/rvjbvQO Nvm Outlaw is fine
oblique geyser
Everything is at that bracket
queen geyser
True
keen magnet
how does a sub rogue + balance druid opener look like in 2v2
languid ravine
nono that breaks stealth, just use bash on healer
thats what my druid friend says anyways
man I played like 7 Shuffle matches today, almost all of them a healer 0-6 
jolly sierra
man I played like 7 Shuffle matches today, almost all of them a healer 0-6 <:Cri...
still better than the 6-0 dps KEK
oblique geyser
Unless you the 6-0 dps
surreal barn
That happens when you’ve got a good fire mage in your shuffle
oblique geyser
Yeah love when demons just randomly give a fire mage precog
jolly sierra
fucking precock
gleaming pawn
there's nothing more boring than watching the EU AWC. It's all just wizards dampening each other for 10+ minutes a game and playing for second place, while Echo curbstomps their way to 1st place
jolly sierra
yeah
that is one of the reasons i hate wizard lobbies
they are slow af and just hugs pillars
but is funny af to watch them suffer in ruins of lordaeron
languid ravine
there's nothing more boring than watching the EU AWC. It's all just wizards damp...
"Reeeee I hate Wizard comps"
"But I love Wizard comps when Echo does it."
Also go rewatch Liquid vs Frogs, that is some clutch shit for 2mins straight
shut solstice
Boys what pvp talents do you take as outlaw?
I just realized I take that cloak talent for all situations when it’s useless against Magic. Has me thinking what everyone else does
queen geyser
I just realized I take that cloak talent for all situations when it’s useless ag...
Against wizards? I run either DFA for the extra gap closer (also briefly gives cc immunity and can chase lock/monk port) or Drink Up
Sometimes if there's another wizard that really benefits from haste on my side, I run Take Your Cut and drop it on them before opening
languid ravine
you run enduring brawler or whatever its called 100% of the time
queen geyser
100%
Brawler and Smoke Bomb
Basically always
Smoke Bomb too versatile to sacrifice
queen geyser
Hell ye brother
queen geyser
Sometimes if there's another wizard that really benefits from haste on my side, ...
@languid ravine In a similar vein, although Drink and DFA are probably better, if there's a melee on my team against double wizard, I'll sometimes run Boarding Party
Oh whoops wrong ping
queen geyser
<@170929439172067328> In a similar vein, although Drink and DFA are probably bet...
@shut solstice
scarlet shell
smoke bomb is by far the greatest pvp rogue talent i have used
the healer is forced to enter it or they cant do anything to help the dude being targetted.
shut solstice
I never realized the talents were so versatile.
queen geyser
You can also drop smoke bomb on your own healer if wizards are pelting them
scarlet shell
across all 3 specs, smoke bomb is nasty
queen geyser
Forces the wizard to either get aggressive (and probably blink right into you), hit someone else, or stand there like a lemon
scarlet shell
^^
gleaming pawn
"Reeeee I hate Wizard comps"
"But I love Wizard comps when Echo does it."
Also g...
where did I say anything positive about Echo? No on can touch them, which is also extremely boring. Is there the odd bombastic wizard match? Sure, but by and large they are boring matches to watch and EU is almost entirely wizard comps
queen geyser
You can also cast AR and smoke bomb in stealth. Very important to know
queen geyser
So you can hit AR before you actually open
Or smoke your healer after a vanish
Whatever needs done
shut solstice
I’m legit shocked hahaha I always use a god damn global in my opener
Holy shit ahhahahaha
No wonder I’m an 1800 Andy hahahahaha
languid ravine
where did I say anything positive about Echo? No on can touch them, which is als...
oops I read you wrong then
shut solstice
Fuckin thanks guys.
queen geyser
I wouldn't drop smoke in your opener as Outlaw, you typically don't have the damage to really capitalize on it
Now if you've vanished or got a restealth and opening on something that's half-health with no stun DR?
Smoke, open, that's juicy
Force something
scarlet shell
outlaw does no damage this season jfc.
queen geyser
Aye it sucks
scarlet shell
the ambush build is Budget Sub rogue.
queen geyser
https://youtu.be/H-4HeQK8YFY Except into undergeared fire mages lmfao
And I didn't even get the KB
languid ravine
you can tell with the UI
this guy MAINS battlegrounds
languid ravine
why? sounds fun
scarlet shell
toxic
queen geyser
Tank imbalance is one reason
languid ravine
I ve been complaining for months that BGs is a massive huge waste of time due to no ratings
queen geyser
Of many
queen geyser
I ve been complaining for months that BGs is a massive huge waste of time due to...
I'd argue it's better because of no rating
scarlet shell
probably will surpass league of legends annual toxicity.
queen geyser
It's the wild west
It's part of why BGs are fun
RBGs as they are now are cool but they're a sideshow compared to arena
scarlet shell
Solo RBGs would be between CoD and League.
languid ravine
solo rbgs would the real wild west
bgs right now are a carousell ride that is dysfunctional half the time most of the time
scarlet shell
just one bad game and the orc flames.
queen geyser
just one bad game and the orc flames.
"let them win..." -the undead mage sitting at your gy
scarlet shell
if anyone saw that mail about the shotgun on reddit.
languid ravine
how do you do the crossed out thing in discord
languid ravine
okay got it
queen geyser
@shut solstice Also, get you some weakauras if you haven't. These are the ones I've made. Having indicators somewhere other than the enemy debuffs, your buffs, and your action bar really helps keep your plates spinning
Really only takes like a night of fiddling around to figure them out (not that you should have to do this but yknow)
It doesn't have to make sense to anyone else, just you. You're the pilot, you probably want a personalized cockpit
scarlet shell
just buff the rolls for the love of god
queen geyser
I wish they'd dump RTB altogether and focus on the sword and pistol thing
Or bring back some elements of old combat
(Bandit's Guile my beloved)
scarlet shell
at least True Bearings is very worth
queen geyser
Oh yeah, buffs
True Bearing, Skull & Crossbones, and Broadside are all things you want to keep
Reroll the rest if you get them solely
Grand Melee might be worth keeping when 10.1.5 drops
Might
shut solstice
How often you out here getting all the buffs?
queen geyser
Not very
shut solstice
Same :[
queen geyser
Rip
jolly sierra
nothing because my laptop barely runs wow with minimal settings
queen geyser
what do you guys use to record your games?
OBS
It's free and pretty easy to set up
Took me like 10 minutes, probably would've been 5 if I just looked it up and didn't spend the first 5 fiddling with it on my own
Just gotta have storage space
jolly bear
awesome thank you
jolly bear
well I was trying to get improved shadow techniques but there's no way to get it with my build
jolly bear
yall ever miss something huge that's been staring you in the face but you couldnt see it and when you did you were just like holy sht I am an idiot
cursive umbra
yall ever miss something huge that's been staring you in the face but you couldn...
My wife
And no, not in a romantic way. Shes just huge 😉
hidden dome
man I just love how DHs are basically impossible to heal against in 2s
With their 65k+ constant dps and silence + cage + kick + 2 stuns
I don't mind skillless classes being a thing, but do they have to be broken every second patch
Nothing drains mana quite as fast as a DH doing it's 2 button rotation on you
last jasper
Ur problem is u think dh r skillless 2 button class
hidden dome
I'm certain it takes skill to get 2.4+ with DH
But for 1.8-2k you just need to not LoS your heal
last jasper
But for 1.8-2k you just need to not LoS your heal
It’s basically describes every single viable spec
hidden dome
Yes
but most of them have a slightly more complex rotation
or need to atleast use their cc correctly
last jasper
Dh has it too
languid ravine
here:
+press Firebrand aura on cd
+BEEG Novas
+dispell BoP
done
last jasper
In low rating they would have low damage and die in a stun. Cuz u need to press more than 2 buttons to actually do some dam. It’s not sl
And not even s1 op dh who could one shot u with hunt
dusky quartz
assa rogue is 100% the worst spec in shuffle along with DK frost
hidden dome
assa rogue is 100% the worst spec in shuffle along with DK frost
You spelt outlaw wrong
hidden dome
Don't worry, the blizz devs did too
last jasper
How this describes dh in any way? I assume u grabbed “ez” glad back in s1 as dh?
dusky quartz
not sure how its so hard to give some love to the underplayed/meme specs
like legit a spec can be unviable a whole season in this game
nah he can pick fury war and pve his way to 2k
hidden dome
or just dh again
ye
I mean I literally played against a few glad DHs today trying to help my friend get 1.8 on his hunter
and not one of them did correct cc chains of any kind
dusky quartz
yea zug zug all the time
hidden dome
I'm used to rets doing this kind of burst. But this was outside of wings...
last jasper
What cc chain u expect from dh, i wonder
hidden dome
355k in a second outside of burst 🙂
hidden dome
What cc chain u expect from dh, i wonder
Not much. Using their stun or cage to set up rune
topaz cedar
assa rogue is 100% the worst spec in shuffle along with DK frost
Assa is better than both dk specs rn
both unh and frost
minor cape
Assa is better than both dk specs rn
yeah, assa aint even that bad
i mean its on the bad side but not dk bad
😩
topaz cedar
just noticed theres no wotlk pvp in this server, is there one for that or?
last jasper
i mean its on the bad side but not dk bad
Is there a dk pvp spec?! Wow 🤯
deft edge
So is there a way to get wyrmcrests in PvP?
digital crypt
So am I just a masochist if I try playing outlaw in 2's and 3's?
languid ravine
Dont you guys love getting griefed two rounds in a row and then you are missing 100 honor to cap weekly?
pale storm
Back to the hour Q because someone left early
Need like a Q priority if you Q after game ending from someone leaving
languid ravine
pretty sure there is
ruby sentinel
355k in a second outside of burst 🙂
its what you deserve for not pressing onne of ur 20 defensive cds
topaz cedar
ignore this dude he's here literally just to seethe
forums would be more entertaining
potent pivot
last jasper
Nah. Pala prob 2 button spec as well
jolly sierra
wings goes brrrr