pvp

[vocal surge]

except for WAs for my own abilities

because I cant focus with things playing loud sounds into my ears

I was also that rogue

that would rather run Elusiveness over Cheat Death

lol

When it comes Dragonflight Mythic Raids

I have a top 3 hated raid bosses

Sennarth, That Tauren dude, and edgy nelf lady in elemental form

Sennarth was overall just not a fun boss dealing with getting clipped by small rocks and losing all your momentum or having swirlies knock you off the edge by spawning directly under your feet while getting into position to move up the stairs

Tauren Dude constantly overwhelms my autism and makes me blank out mid fight because theres too many mixed visuals on the screen that makes seeing the ground so difficult. Especially the Pyroclast ability that targets other players and makes swirls that can 1 shot. The other part was the RNG of the elements spawning when you needed to change tiles in the room at ~90% - 95% energy

Sometimes he wouldn't spawn Wind and spawns Earth or that other element and its an automatic wipe

Then Edgy nelf lady in ele form, just an overall stale fight mostly since Outlaw's talents leave it no room to have fun

I'd rather Killing Spree, Grappling Hook, and Shadowstep the suction mechanic than have a cramp on my small finger that was as bad as playing GTFO for 4hrs straight holding Ctrl to crouch for holding A or D on my keyboard

The other issue I had with Vault of the Incarnates was the visuals were extremely bland

[potent pivot]

[vocal surge]

but ye

Kurog Grimtotem I think his name is

was a huge focus test for me when it came to progging his fight

to simply not shutdown mid fight and Alt F4 in front of my PC

[potent pivot]

sometimes fights be like that

Sylvanas was a struggle not to alt+F4 for part of prog

[vocal surge]

Yeee

Outlaw had some exploits in her fight

[potent pivot]

i played sin for prog

keeping up alacrity during the intermissions became a mini game to fight the boredum

[vocal surge]

True

or getting as much cleave as possible

or hitting CD targets

[potent pivot]

shadowstepping the boss in the split second before the 2nd intermission

and getting 1 gcd in

like when you got held in the air by anduin, right before the RP

i'd always step->rupture there

[vocal surge]

Lmao

[waxen meteor]

Everybody went diablo?

2s are having 2 mins queue

[vocal surge]

prob

[jolly sierra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/13yx0f8/solo_shuffle_i_chased_this_guy_around_all_match/

ME SMASH

[thick slate]

Hey everyone, idk if this has been asked here im not usually active in this channel. However what are your opinions on the Sub nerfs ?

is it going to remain the best rogue spec currently?

i dont think 4% aura buff on assa will suddenly make it super good, but i might be wrong

[potent pivot]

they were kinda warranted, but i don't think they will kill sub

assa getting +5% dmg should help, assa is already viable to a degree as is

[vocal surge]

^

Sub's damage is going to tank but you still got the evis build w. 4p

[thick slate]

is that build capable of erasing someone in a kidney if they mindlessly used trinket before?

[potent pivot]

not really going to be able to tell until after reset

but really no spec in the game should be able to do stuff like that

[thick slate]

Yeah that's true

Reason im going rogue is because my main (ww monk) is looking pretty sad in most contents of the game right now. And atleast sub looks like its meta in all content at the moment

and devs being giga busy with Diablo 4 and wowhead spamming diablo posts every hour makes me think that it would be a while before we see an actual proper tuning/rework for the underperforming specs

[potent pivot]

diablo devs have nothing to do with wow i'm pretty positive

[final vessel]

^^^

[thick slate]

i hope this aint the case lmao

[final vessel]

Why would the wow balance team ever touch diablo

[potent pivot]

every game has it's own team

wow in general has multiple of it's own committed teams

[thick slate]

But wouldnt blizzard want the attention to be shifted towards Diablo at the moment ? So they would probably hold on to making big changes until the hype has faded

[potent pivot]

the only reason we wouldn't be seeing many changes coming right now is because they're busy working on the changes coming in 10.1.5

[potent pivot]

no

[topaz cedar]

arent there like 5

being a bit hyperbolic but 10.1.5 really doesnt seem to change anywhere near as much as it should

[thick slate]

^

[potent pivot]

i mean they literally just announced a pretty sizeable tuning patch for next week

[thick slate]

did they ?

when was that

[potent pivot]

the sub nerfs were apart of it?

[topaz cedar]

Yeah but certain specs like both of dk dps options are completely forgotten about

[thick slate]

Oh you meant this one

[topaz cedar]

despite both being outlaw tier

[potent pivot]

wdym

i don't think they've finished announcing changes coming in 10.1.5

[thick slate]

Yeah thats what i meant, there are a lot of very underperforming specs that still havent seen a single change ever since s2

[potent pivot]

there's supposed to be some sort of rogue reworks coming

[thick slate]

does it need it though? apart from outlaw ofcourse

[potent pivot]

idk, unless you're pushing for r1 titles i think that's the last thing to really be worried about

[potent pivot]

yes, rogue as a whole has been stale as hell for a long time now

[topaz cedar]

Honestly so many specs just need deworks and to be walked back to the legion designs, rogue, uhdk and disc come to mind immediately

[potent pivot]

talent trees slightly disappointing, and rogue hasn't seen any major changes in years

[topaz cedar]

the fact that atonement on disc is only looking at a 10% buff in 10.1.5 so far is a joke ngl

[potent pivot]

like many years

[final vessel]

Wow players talking balance is actually crazy.

[topaz cedar]

Im talking about design, not balance

[potent pivot]

yeah i don't think balance is anywhere near as big a problem as people make it out to be

[topaz cedar]

disc is strong but its strong in ways that are completely antithetical to the whole point of the spec

[potent pivot]

there's always going to be fotm players that jump to the OP stuff

but it just doesn't matter

[thick slate]

Boomies, locks and SPs shouldn't be dominating as hard as they are right now, so balance is kinda an issue

casters are shredding the ladders

[potent pivot]

you can get good enough with any spec in the game to reach glad when it comes down to it

95% of the time

[final vessel]

Things change and they've obviously tried to move disc away from what it was in legion?

[wary spire]

Any news about that btw? I only remember 1 post from them at the beginning of ptr.

[potent pivot]

nothing yet

[topaz cedar]

But the new design is awful? It went from being an active healer that had to do damage to keep tempo to just being a shield bot with artificially strong cds

[potent pivot]

since they announced outlaw getting a RtB buff change

been radio silence on the rogue front

[wary spire]

I really hope we don't get into a "sorry guys, we ran out of time" situation.

[topaz cedar]

I very much doubt anyone considers the current design of disc to be a step in any direction but down, compared to how it was after the legion rework

[potent pivot]

if it means we get a more polished rework in 10.2 i wouldn't care tbh

i want it to be good

[final vessel]

That's nice, but that's not the point.
"Reverting" back to legion isn't what they want, quite obviously, so why would they

[potent pivot]

not just "we got rid of this, added that. moved 4 talents around the trees"

i'd like meaningful playstyle change entirely

[wary spire]

"Sorry guys, 10.2 is not a time for reworks. Plz wait for 11.0"

[topaz cedar]

reverting back to legion design it doesn't have to be 1:1 obviously, but I mean with it having it's healing weighted more towards damage, doing more damage relative to other healers, and having its mana pool / sustain adjusted to account for that would all be changes that give disc its niche back

[potent pivot]

Nah

[topaz cedar]

blizz should ideally be trying to keep specs unique rather than homogenising and destroying niches for no real reason and to the detriment of the playerbase for those specs lol

[potent pivot]

Too much of the player base complains against that

[vocal surge]

I honestly wouldn't mind reverting rogue back to Pre-Legion

and making Outlaw an offshoot path for Combat in the talent trees

[final vessel]

I'm fully supportive of niches and I loathe homogenization, but Im also aware that fundamentally unhealthy design makes it impossible to balance

[topaz cedar]

the offensive disc design wasn't unhealthy though

it was kept in check by mana issues and other weaknesses

every time that i remember disc being massively complained about in the legion <-> bfa era was just because of how it would be broken by pve trinkets

which wasn't the spec so much as just.. idk, i honestly have no idea how bfa went without disabling trinkets felt like every season was another pve hellscape lmao

[odd mortar]

My priest is my highest rated toon, and will be swapped to shadow Tuesday unfortunately

I think I’ll be focusing on resto Druid moving forward until priest is fun again

Now just a weaker shield bot :/

[vocal surge]

[nova viper]

Lol

Be healer now is so fookin disgusting

[odd mortar]

lolol

[nova viper]

I guess is reason why i must wait 30 min for shuffle

On 1.6 ratio

[odd mortar]

I may sound dumb but only class above rival and the shield build just got shat on

No other viable option really

[nova viper]

Prot paladin

[odd mortar]

Bro

[nova viper]

Its joke

[odd mortar]

I’m gonna try and climb with blood dk

[nova viper]

relax

[odd mortar]

I know

[nova viper]

Loool all dk is usless now

[odd mortar]

But I think if I climb as blood dk

😜

[nova viper]

U know

If u pick frost u die in 5 sec Unholy is crap too

[odd mortar]

I can’t kill unholy

I also haven’t tried to learn why

So that’s on me

[nova viper]

Unholy doesn't make any pressure compared to other meles.

Just kill other target

[odd mortar]

Yeah

In ss I feel most of the time the dk just keeps the caster gripped and anti magic where they don’t dps

And we end up not killing other targets in time

[topaz cedar]

Unholy struggles to survive into both melee and caster

Maybe you're just being thrown off by them having IBF + trinket, force both before bombing etc

it used to have a niche as anticaster but that's kinda just gone now

[odd mortar]

Okay I need to take a look at why I’m losing those lobbies, because if it’s an easy fix almost all of my rogue 1500 push to 1600 have been stopped by ss lobbies with dk

But I am brain dead and new to rogue

And have not looked up anything around them sooo

What is IBF lol

[topaz cedar]

IBF breaks stun and makes them immune to stun for 8 secs, and reducing physical damage by 30% for the duration

2 min cd

[odd mortar]

Oh wow

Yeah just googled it

[topaz cedar]

that's the only actual physical cd they have though, they'd have to give up damage to spec into bloodforged armor pvp talent which gives 20% physical DR after death striking but death strike itself heals for basically nothing even in early damp

AMS also gets scaled by damp

[nova viper]

IBF is Incress Body Fat

[odd mortar]

That looks like a frost ability

[topaz cedar]

It's just a DK ability

[odd mortar]

Ok

[topaz cedar]

its in the left tree

but yeah that's all it really has

[copper maple]

I guess AMS can still reduce shadow damage done by sub, can't it?

[topaz cedar]

most of sub damage is physical and damp hits it hard anyway

[queen geyser]

https://youtu.be/a22QAY6R0VM I got OBS working :). Please berate me for my blunders

[minor cape]

going to leave a mean comment

😎

[queen geyser]

Please do

It amuses me greatly

[minor cape]

done

[odd mortar]

combat is OP??

[copper maple]

Maybe in classic

[odd mortar]

im trying to comment

but it wont uh use my nickname

[dapper chasm]

Is the sap macro broken now?

[surreal barn]

Works fine to me

Everyone is a night elf now though seems harder to get it off

[dapper chasm]

The cleartarget part doesn't seem to work

It sticky targets the first player

[jolly sierra]

maybe can comment something hmmm

[cobalt pewter]

all rogue specs are op rn

[odd mortar]

okokok

HEY PANDA

[jolly sierra]

wat

[queen geyser]

ye?

[dapper chasm]

I found a workaround for the spammable sap macro, am I the only one with issues?

[odd mortar]

hello.

[wary spire]

What's the workaround?

[dapper chasm]

Well, it's ghetto as fuck

[queen geyser]

No, lol

I play Outlaw because I'm a masochist

[dapper chasm]

There is an addon that allows for multi-part macros "GSE" - get that an split your macro in half to make sure that /cleartarget and /targetenemy are on separate parts of a macro. When you press once, it will do the first part, and then the second press will do the next part of the macro.

I then went on my keyboard settings and just made it tap the sap key twice when I press it

You could just tap it twice yourself, but my sap macro has several components, including evis, that I don't want to have to press twice

#showtooltip
/cleartarget [stance:1/3]
/stopattack [stance:1/3]
/targetenemy [stance:1/3]
/cast [stance:0/2] Eviscerate
/cast [stance:1/3] Sap
/cast [stance:0] Eviscerate
/cast [stance:0] !Stealth

That's my macro, and it can just be split down below /stopattack

Again - I'm not even sure if this affecting other people and I just wasted time on nothing

[jolly sierra]

xd

[languid ravine]

anyone tried Rotten + Brew`?

wait I cant take dark shadow then

[minor cape]

yup

cant do it

[jolly sierra]

gl for tomorrow NA sub homies

tell us how the dmg goes

[odd mortar]

I will cry

and record it

then send to blizzard for buffs

[waxen meteor]

[languid ravine]

why does DUEL not work in katmogu

fricking scammed

[wanton breach]

no worries, assa will have 5% more damage and be viable again, right?

[waxen meteor]

I remember this meme face

[queen geyser]

It- it does

[languid ravine]

yeah yeah but not on the ball carriers

[queen geyser]

I saw a Sub Rogue do it on my healer just this morning

Aaah-

Weird thing btw

You can apparently cloak off the orbs with the new cloak talent

So probably just another weird interaction

Can you not duel flag carriers in Twin Peaks and WSG?

[jolly sierra]

me killing outlaws as ret

[queen geyser]

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-starwars-darthvader-gif-5533636

[queen geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-herobrine-taco-bodies-fingerprints-gif-19016021

[tribal badger]

man i dont even care i just cant wait for the warlock and boomkin nerf

so tired of watching destro and boomkins RP as bm hunters running around the map the whole game doin 70k dps

I've had games where lock was the top damage and MF only got 1-2 chaos bolts off the entire round

still doing 50k dps

[jolly sierra]

i was mad tbh when a fucker said to the chicken

"u were the easiest dps to heal i've had"

and that was because the fkn chicken just kept outdamaging everyone

and btw, prepare urself u will see a lot of MM after this week

but damn they are easy to beat in 2s

[surreal barn]

Tbh I’m looking forward to it

[queen geyser]

^

Damage won't fix them getting trained constantly

[surreal barn]

That is good for us

[queen geyser]

In fact, it'll make it worse

(for them)

[surreal barn]

For us, for them

[queen geyser]

Don't let 'em cast boys

[surreal barn]

I am scared of BM becoming OP again

[jolly sierra]

nah MM will go op tho

but will still be glass cannons

[last jasper]

I have a perfect solution for upcoming nerfs

[jolly sierra]

so its ok

[hasty holly]

mm hunters dealing 70% of your hp in two button presses :)

[jolly sierra]

better than fucking double tap

with 150k aimed shots x2

[waxen meteor]

bm also got 5% buff like sin

think hunter will be better position next week

[fathom dew]

Couldn’t get to 1800 before sub nerfs

[jolly sierra]

f

[fathom dew]

Excited to see how Assass does though I miss that shit

[jolly sierra]

they were fine before buff

[quaint cedar]

I'd love for more MM hunters in 2s. Easy wins lol

[jolly sierra]

agree

[minor cape]

my lock friend leveled a disc priest so with disc nerfs and mm hunter in 2s ill be happy

[fathom dew]

I’ve been playing a lot of disc lately so I’m double sad

[minor cape]

(i mean that it will be easier to deal with other discs)

ah it will still be good

[fathom dew]

I’m sure but solos as a healer is already rough

[languid ravine]

Imagine if boomkin was squishy and also melee and also their burst can be hard countered by Darkdwarf Racial and their dps is like half

wait that's just ass rogue

[odd mortar]

https://youtu.be/qYbG0-FtMrE

[languid ravine]

thats a clip from the future? we are still in Season 2

[odd mortar]

Yes

[languid ravine]

all my weakauras are gone

[waxen meteor]

I feel disc nerf is quite big

[languid ravine]

anyone else had all their weakauras vanish?

this is sadge

[odd mortar]

no but that is a sadge

[languid ravine]

like how even

[wary spire]

I think they can be pretty good with smolge buff and nerfs of everyone else.

The question is - better than sub or nah.

I also that outlaw would be great. My are not very accurate.

[languid ravine]

I would say Sub and Assa are too different to compare on the good/bad dimension

unless the blizz balancing team makes it so obvious like presently

[jolly sierra]

just will say assa ages like wine for end xps

[languid ravine]

yeah maybe, or it is gonna die even faster x^)

[jolly sierra]

give us more survivability REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[surreal barn]

I just can’t wait to play the next ret rework right before the end of the season again

[waxen meteor]

is warlock really getting a rework next week or next version

or is that a fake rework

more like a tiny adjustment

[odd mortar]

shadowburn is pretty big

I use it as an execute

Can do lost of dmg over a round tho

there was one more nerf that would be decent

errm

[vocal surge]

I got 13 days for mine lol

[stoic spruce]

Yeah it happened about a month ago. I have no idea what caused.

[pliant spoke]

WA is now a rogue

[last jasper]

Lol, blizz just put last nail in the coffin. 😂🤝 raised sub price

[jolly sierra]

wait are u turkish or from ukarine?

[last jasper]

Ukraine. Did they announce price increase in these regions?

[jolly sierra]

yes

on both

[marble oasis]

how much of a price increase was it? i know they did a 10% rise in the UK back in WoD

[last jasper]

30%

[jolly sierra]

try farming tokens

[last jasper]

Comments on wowhead 😂

[jolly sierra]

send screens lol

[last jasper]

Just shitting blizzard for raising for ppl who r literally in the middle of war 😂

[languid ravine]

really is this true? why would they do +30% (!!) sub fees in a third world country such as the UK?

[marble oasis]

Jesus christ.
Exchange rates really that much i find hard to believe.

[frank mango]

Hey guys returning to sub rogue and gearing up just bought my conq wep what else should i aim as a priority to buy ? Badge or main stat piece like chest etc

[languid ravine]

trinkets, weapon, mastery

weapon first obvious

and dont do trinkets, just get the honor set bonus I meant

[frank mango]

I have all honor gear im talking about what to aim for with conquest first

Got crafted boots helm and ring.

Conq wep

Honor all other gear

[languid ravine]

weapon and then use your brain to calculate the maximum stats per conquest ratio per week

[last jasper]

Best part is, uah to usd exchange is exactly the same it was year before. Last time they updated price for Ukraine

[frank mango]

Thanks for your help . You have been great mate .

Im sure someones already done it hence me asking

[hard garnet]

How bad is the sub nerf tomorrow?

[simple crest]

for me its bad enough that im gonna be done pvping. its hard enough as it is to rank up in SS with the 1 hour queue times without getting nerfed. The worst part is, all I really care about is getting 1 saddle for the Warstrider mount.

[marble oasis]

Sorta same atleast while the mmr is so insanely suppressed that meeting rank 1 is possible at 1800lol

[hard garnet]

Thank you guys

[simple crest]

Not to mention the nerf to the vault. 3 hours for 3 games of SS to not even unlock the first slot.

[languid ravine]

mate those are triple digit numbers

so look at chest

441 agi for 875 conq

thats roughly 1:2

boots are 331 per 700 thats slightly below 1:2

but you might end up having more pieces earlier if you take the cheaper ones

guys did the !WA pins get deleted? I cant find them anywhere xd

[jolly sierra]

ask trickz

[topaz cedar]

Do not buy the chest lol

[languid ravine]

where does it say to buy chest?

here, might as well post the content

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm2BTWLh_oo

[jolly sierra]

tf are u talking about

[topaz cedar]

whomst

[jolly sierra]

u, the chest

[topaz cedar]

bc what happens if vault has chest tier

the convo is about conq pieces not the token

[jolly sierra]

ah in that sense just wait till reset

[waxen meteor]

Damn solo always pop with goblin..

[jolly sierra]

did he bribed them?

[cosmic marsh]

are we already able to have 3 crafted items? or is that with reset tomoorw

[jolly sierra]

we already were since this week

[fossil thunder]

just got back to the game, any idea how to get tier gear guys?

[jolly sierra]

go to AH and buy obsidian pvp pieces

[copper maple]

I remember a local ~20% increase somewhere in 2021 I think. But as I learned later, nothing compares to losing the official way of purchasing game time and relying on third party services where its' cost is dependent on exchange rate. Right now it's almost double the 2021 price.

[jolly sierra]

guys trickz is not here say something lol

[odd mortar]

Hello

[vocal surge]

ngl

Girls Frontline Community > WoW Community lol

WoW Community:
DPS issue? "Learn your rotation, go watch a video lul."
Got an upgrade? "Sim it."
PvP? A lot of trashtalking and not a lot of professional advice available out to the public except in Rogue Discord. Rogue Discord best community of all the WoW communities.
Need help w. something ingame? LFG or log off for the day.
Gameplay? Boring
Lore? Mostly pointless or why.

Girls Frontline Community
DPS Issue? Dalao gives you the talk on how to build your team. Very helpful tips and tricks and setups.
Got an Upgrade? Congratz.
Ranking? Friendly competition and get to join discussion on how to resolve issues and ways to get around problems or how to improve.
Need ingame help? Over 100 dalaos and veterans ready to give you a friend request to help you get through the game
Gameplay? Chill and intense
Lore? Interesting and fun to read up on

[jolly sierra]

wut

[vocal surge]

you said say something

xD

[copper maple]

You're right though, rogue discord is the best

[nova hill]

And hunter discord by far the worst

[vocal surge]

Worst is subjective

Warrior is the worst if you're looking for transmog. You can summarize their pea sized intellect with: "Zug zug, 2 big weapons gud mog."

Demon Hunter Discord barely exists

You walk in and it's quiet

Paladins are gloomy in their corner but they have good mog tastes (they have the worst stickers thou)

Mages got a coffee and spatial magic addiction, they're built different like the definition of insanity

Warlocks are busy tryna plan their take over of the world with their legion supplied army of demon summons

[jolly sierra]

ah right

kek

[jolly sierra]

demon hunter discord in pvp thread are just gay picture posting according to some guys from here going there

[vocal surge]

xD

[jolly sierra]

dk discord has flarkness according to some guys from here going there, that enough to say tho

[wary spire]

I wonder how other discords describe rogue one. "Oh yeah that's the place where they yell about disarming mages for some reason"

[remote lava]

hey guys what is the best pvp spec rn, looking to get back in, have played all 3 in the past at some point

[wintry dew]

Try sub, even tho it was recently nerfed (or will be) i believe it's still the go to

[minor cape]

im not even surprised

its also their gameplay

they are playing a huge half naked dude

not macroing "GREGORY I AM COOMING" into eye beam is a sin

[topaz cedar]

were the nerfs even that bad

[topaz cedar]

hopefully one day lord and saviour petkick will appear

[queen geyser]

The Return of the King

[wary spire]

We need to wait and see.

[copper maple]

I thought most DH characters are female with slutmogs

[minor cape]

i dunno i see male dhs a lot

[nova viper]

Slutmogs and classic era mog

Is totally bis

[minor cape]

motherfuckers stole the warglaives

[nova viper]

True king

use draggers from Ragnaros

and blackwing lair set

[minor cape]

these?

its ugly as fuck tho

😩

[nova viper]

Ban him

[minor cape]

im not nostalgia biased

😎

[nova viper]

Im too

man i have 21 years i dont even play classic

But this daggers and set is so vibe

[minor cape]

it looks like a toy

😩

[nova viper]

I so vibe

Like a old anime

[minor cape]

it doesnt give me an old anime vibe more like a shitty psp game vibe

whatevs

we should mog into what we like kings

the important thing is not rerolling dh

🫡

[harsh steppe]

gm

https://tenor.com/view/abbott-elementary-praying-prayers-pray-give-me-strength-gif-25350525

me praying for tier today

[wintry dew]

Have you managed to grind up @harsh steppe ?

[harsh steppe]

nah still low

[copper maple]

Nothing beats legion mage tower assa rogue daggers

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/534433.jpg

They even change shape, blew my mind when a friend told me

[harsh steppe]

nah leggo daggers > everything

[copper maple]

They're too big imo

Imagine trying to stab someone with that

[harsh steppe]

ahaha

https://tenor.com/view/nightmare-nightmare-soulcalibur-soulcalibur-soulcalibur-vi-sc6-gif-21449279

[copper maple]

The animations and colours are cool though

Also broken bottle daggers for simpler mogs are fun

[wintry dew]

As a proud owner of both the legendary daggers and the ghostblades , i gotta say .. Ghostblades fit in way more transmogs

Fangs of the father are just too big

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-thats-what-she-said-laughing-gif-20569583

[minor cape]

im a df s1 dagger enjoyer

the conquest ones

[copper maple]

I also like the ulduar daggers, celestial looking ones

[wintry dew]

Get the updated model

From sepulcher

Rygelon boss:3

[copper maple]

Looked it up, I like the ulduar one more

This one's kinda fat lol

[wintry dew]

It is fat

I dislike ulduar one BCS it's... Really old and the model isn't really up to date

[queen geyser]

Ban

That was the coolest looking dagger in the game until AQ

Also reject fat daggers

Embrace simple broadsword and pickaxe

[wintry dew]

Perdiction best dagger from classic for sure

[copper maple]

I think it still aged better than some more detailed daggers

[queen geyser]

My problem with TBC gear is what even are the colors

[wintry dew]

Yep yep for sure!
I like simple daggers tho, so WoD actually gave me some of those

Especially the crafted ones

[queen geyser]

Like with vanilla gear, even though they're low res and low poly, they look real enough that your brain just kinda fills in the gaps

With TBC gear, it's so... flamboyant that it sticks out, and you can't really suspend your disbelief, so it looks really bad

[minor cape]

i aggree

[queen geyser]

The exception to this being purple judgement set

[minor cape]

i dont like most daggers

at all

they are either small and stupid or huge and fat

[queen geyser]

Pre much

[minor cape]

this one is awesome tho

its like a good balance between not being small

but also looking sharp

[copper maple]

Looks like a small axe

I feel like two handed weapons have best mogs

Most of them are of proper size

And for them being too big is less of an issue

[minor cape]

wow weapon mogs look so silly

😵‍💫

overall

armors are cool

some

but weapons - you look at collections and they are all ass

[copper maple]

Mostly yes

[queen geyser]

One thing I hate about modern weapon appearances is they look like they're made out of foam

Older weapons looked like they were made out of metal

They had a sheen to them

And they weren't stupidly bulky, most of the time

I've got the SL S1 jacket on with a bunch of high res gear from Cata onwards

And then I've got a vanilla green sword and a pickaxe

[harsh steppe]

anybody know what addon puts enemy DRs above their nameplates?
trying to fix all these different DRs everywhere

[supple pulsar]

Diminish

Setup enable on ennemy nameplate

[harsh steppe]

ahhh tysm!

[minor cape]

fellas better tell me

which addon gives dr above characters

tired of looking on gladius every time

nvm im stupid

[topaz cedar]

I find regular dr addons too hard to keep up with so i have one that emails me the current dr count every second and i just tab out when i need to see it

Ok hear me out

is there any good reason why blizz doesn't give us an option to break down crafted items to get the spark back

like

???

this system is the opposite of flexible, you cant really test things bc you're just stuck without another spark for 2 weeks

[languid ravine]

No loot goblin in the whole of dragon isles and stormwind

is there another zone I missed?

[wanton breach]

orgrimmar

[wary spire]

wod daggers are still bis.

[topaz cedar]

WoD had such cool looking things in it! those daggers! old killing spree those really big 1 handed swords from blackrock!! old killing spree the season 1 elite sets!!!!! old killing spree

[quaint cedar]

What, you don't like an ability called "Killing Spree" doing 0 damage and instead being primarily used as a root break?

[topaz cedar]

i wouldnt even mind if it was still the cool thing it was before

[quaint cedar]

I just don't understand why outlaw has so many dead abilities

I swear some dev is still butthurt about dying to a red buff killing spree back in WoD and now they refuse to let it be useful ever again

[queen geyser]

Personally I use it for the wall more than the root break

Hit Feint, hit KS

Solid two seconds of big damage reduction

(Until I get CCed mid spree and lose 35% of that wall lmao)

[quaint cedar]

Yeah can be used for that too

[queen geyser]

It’s still stupid that an ability called KILLING Spree is a defensive

[quaint cedar]

Exactly

[queen geyser]

I'll give Killing Spree exactly one thing offensively

If you're in an opportunity proc drought, and your target is on like, 5%

Then it can kill something

[quaint cedar]

The favoritism is unreal. Compare to warrior bladestorm. CC immune, does a ton of damage, you can still use ignore pain, don't get teleported back to start when it's over

[copper maple]

Didn't play wod but I remember getting oneshot by KS from a full pve geared rogue on a wotlk server, was funny

[quaint cedar]

Spree has to be one of the most useless buttons in the game

[topaz cedar]

it just looked and sounded so much cooler

[quaint cedar]

Yeah I've gotten a couple of killing spree kills from that exact situation. However, I've also been in that situation and had killing spree still not finish the job

[topaz cedar]

i feel like blizzard is kinda consistently making everything look worse, subtlety went from subtle visuals to being neon purple, weapon enchants got giganerfed to being tiny, idk

[quaint cedar]

Well I personally like outlaw's animations a lot. I just want it to do damage

Neglected for 6 months now feels awesome

[topaz cedar]

ok but the weapon enchants i mean cmon blizz un-nerf them

[quaint cedar]

Most of them do look pretty bad

[copper maple]

I like pistol shot, cool ability

[quaint cedar]

Fan the Hammer makes it even better

I love my pistol

Sub rogue nerds may get cool things like actually doing damage but

I have a pistol

[queen geyser]

I wish you could customize it like a druid form

I want a wheel-lock pistol or a navy revolver

[quaint cedar]

That would be sick

Wheel-locks are so cool

[queen geyser]

Or have, as some people often say

A throwing knife or something

[quaint cedar]

Noooo

Gun only

[queen geyser]

New Outlaw nerf

You have to manually, tediously, meticulously reload your pistol between shots

[quaint cedar]

lol

That is one thing that bugs me a bit

You can't "fan" a flintlock pistol

That's a revolver thing

It's cool though so who cares

[topaz cedar]

tbh that couldve been the tier set, a stacking buff of "extra bullets" for your bte or something, either based off seconds passing or ambushes or something idk

[quaint cedar]

Our SL tier set was kinda like that

[topaz cedar]

didnt play SL for obvious reasons 😎

[quaint cedar]

Would fire a free BtE every 6th pistol shot

[topaz cedar]

Played 2 days of s1, saw what things were like and bounced

[quaint cedar]

I legit enjoyed SL pvp more than DF

Helps that my spec was amazing in SL vs being total booty in DF

We're still paying for the sins of Shadowdust outlaw being crazy OP I guess

You'd think 6 months on the bottom would be enough...

[queen geyser]

I actually had a burst combo as Sin using the Fan of Knives talent that functions exactly like that

I would dabble in Sin in DF if it weren't for Vendetta being gone

That's a big dealbreaker

[topaz cedar]

The legion legendary?

[queen geyser]

Nah in SL

It was just a talent

[surreal barn]

No vendetta feels weird

The stealth counter it provided would come in handy today

[surreal barn]

In rogue rework let’s give assa night vision goggles

[minor cape]

make eviscerate great again

😤

[surreal barn]

Or move that finality lower on the tree lol

It hits pretty damn hard

[minor cape]

like

180k

if ur lucky

[surreal barn]

That’s good to me

[minor cape]

on dummy

[surreal barn]

Less after dark shadow nerf I suppose

[minor cape]

not much less

i dont want to play the fucking sec tech but i dont want to loose all the cool rotten tree benefits

to just eviscerate 50k more

sometimes

[minor cape]

so this and remove sectech lololo

[surreal barn]

What if they gave you an option for sectec where your clones hit aoe or ST

[minor cape]

still spell that forces devs to make subs other aspects to be worse ehhh

but that would be much cooler

[surreal barn]

I just want us to still have a kill condition idc what it is

Right now I feel like we have many after todays nerf who knows

[languid ravine]

what do you mean bottom? We are the second best tank spec in the game, only behind guardian druid

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-24688521

na servers back up

gl everyone

[harsh steppe]

TWO PIECE FINALLY

[minor cape]

fuck yeah

how is that sub dam

doing

still pumping?

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-arnold-schwarzenegger-schwarzenegger-terminator2-terminator-gif-24450886

[surreal barn]

Two mo sockets

[wintry dew]

The difference from 0 set to two set won't be huge

Especially since now you gotta Tweek gameplay again

[surreal barn]

Catalyst working???

Just picked up a quest

[wintry dew]

What

Did they fucked the servers that bad

M+ keystones seem to also be bugged and have no afix

[surreal barn]

I just turned in a catalyst quest

[harsh steppe]

no the damage increase is def huge from 0 to 2 set

https://tenor.com/view/yuge-huge-donald-trump-gif-7357158

[surreal barn]

I don’t notice too much from nerf

But I’m on a trackpad@ work, can’t play rated till tomorr

[fathom dew]

Gzzz dude

I randomly stumbled upon your twitter hyper

[harsh steppe]

ahahaha oh no

[fathom dew]

I’m not a creep I swear

[harsh steppe]

i know, i am the creep

now the eternal question: do we go four piece or do we still not know yet

[wintry dew]

Check high rated players and decide

Google "checkpvp"

Most of the top rogues might have 4 piece already

They might or not be using it tho

[jolly sierra]

i have the CM wod daggers, def my favorites

but i need to take breaks of xmogs sometimes tbh

[quaint cedar]

Changes are live already?

[languid ravine]

guys my two favourite specs to play are Outlaw and FrostDK

[surreal barn]

@quaint cedar if they are I can’t really tell lol

2100 is back on the menu boys

[quaint cedar]

lol

Was curious how hard the sub nerfs would be

[quaint cedar]

I feel you, my favorites are outlaw and hpriest....

[jolly sierra]

we are next

[potent pivot]

We do

[harsh steppe]

tyty

[wary spire]

Are we?

Are we?..

[minor cape]

in brew?

finality i mean

or both

[potent pivot]

I just run it with everything tbh

[minor cape]

is there even a point if i will cold blood sec tehc

[potent pivot]

It’s slightly better than usual with no sec tech build

But I just run it no matter the build

[potent pivot]

Yes

[minor cape]

weird but allright

[potent pivot]

I mean

You still end up pressing evis

It’s just kinda free dmg

Guess it can depend how much mastery you have, but if you’re fully geared you should have plenty mastery to run the extra set pieces

[surreal barn]

I’d run it if I wasn’t replacing with shoulders and a LFR pc. Didn’t make sense statwise till I get the right tier

@potent pivot is your rupture dam noticeably lower

[jolly sierra]

yeah they already revealed and reviewed mages and hpals

in next build they will say something tho

[cosmic marsh]

Can we wear both crafted rings?

[jolly sierra]

wat

[pale storm]

Yes, you can wear as many crafted pieces as you’d like (as long as you have sparks + pvp 450 ilvl reagent) - however only 2 of those crafted pieces can have embellishments

[minor cape]

i bet every dps enjoyed queieng 40 min for this

[gleaming pawn]

The copium is strong with Panda 🙂 rogues won’t be getting shit. Not even buffs, let alone any kind of rework

[minor cape]

they literally wrote in bluepost that they are planning a rogue rework

[gleaming pawn]

They have said a lot of things about rogues over the years

A lot of empty promises

Still waiting on that vial change from years ago

[surreal barn]

Bake in slice and dice

[pale storm]

Bake in vanish shield and give all specs 2 vanishes 😍

[quaint cedar]

Have we even had a single rogue blue post since DF launch?

[surreal barn]

lol

[pale storm]

Yeah, lots of rogue nerfs

[jolly sierra]

what the dev did to u lol

[potent pivot]

Nop

[gleaming pawn]

I’ve been playing since launch, I have zero trust in the devs

[lucid citrus]

I’ve been there😂

[languid ravine]

dang warrior weakauras are lame and boring, yet another reason why rogue is the best class

[languid ravine]

you mean the vial change to have it give damage mitigation?

[austere thorn]

Are the outlaw buffs in yet?

[minor cape]

this lobby?

🤔

[lucid citrus]

Oh i meant like going 3-3 and gained 0 rating

[minor cape]

its normal tho

[languid ravine]

god 1200 mmr lobbies are AIDS

healers dont dispell HoJ on the opener, Ass Rogue doing a Fury opener without stealth

and 80 IQ Ret pala goes 6-0

Lmao

[minor cape]

yeah what did you expect

[jolly sierra]

wings goes brrrrrrrr

[minor cape]

its a psych warfare

[languid ravine]

I dont think there is any psych left

[minor cape]

1200 strategist 180iq assas rogue: hahaaa they will be shocked about me opening without stealth and panick!!!
1200 reterdation paladin 60iq: ughmmm rogue has stealth????

1200 healer no iq: dispell? i thought discipline is a dps spec

[jolly sierra]

did the disc never dispelled the ret? lol

[jolly sierra]

i used to gank persons w the warrior

with like 3 guards over me and the fkn hunt running around

i killed him and just heroic leap out and returned later

[surreal barn]

You all queued into any MM hunters yet?

[vocal surge]

3 of em

[surreal barn]

In solo

[jolly sierra]

im in eu

[vocal surge]

oh

[surreal barn]

How’s it going vs them?

[vocal surge]

pain

[surreal barn]

Are you queuing as outlaw

[vocal surge]

Paladin

As much as I want to play Outlaw, not in the mood to put in a lot of effort

when Paladin is just easier to play

[surreal barn]

Doesn’t pally have like a ranged spec they can talent into now

[vocal surge]

Ye

But your mostly trying to keep yourself alive

vs MM

to do any damage

[surreal barn]

Scary

[queen geyser]

Bros you need to try Gravity Lapse

[proven kayak]

Tomorrow is the nerfs?

[jolly sierra]

in NA are already up

[proven kayak]

Is sub playable at any rate

[jolly sierra]

dunno im in eu lol

[odd mortar]

I just had an okay lobby

but not sure yet

[dusk spindle]

feels fine ngl low mastery and still doing around same damage prenerf

[odd mortar]

yeah just hit a dummy

doing around the same

[dusk spindle]

at 71% mastery in pvp my Secret is hitting 190kish from my average 200k prenerf

[minor cape]

normal mastery rn is 90+

85+ i guess

so even better

[odd mortar]

im 73% outside of pvp

[dusk spindle]

yea, i dont have any of the crafted pvp pieces

[odd mortar]

i dont have tier chest, i have glad chest from vault

[dusk spindle]

used all my crafted on PVE so i feel so scuffed in PVP

[minor cape]

im 81 outside 95 inside

no life giving boots

[odd mortar]

hmm i wonder how im not higher

[minor cape]

with tier

wait we have another mage disarmer

[dusk spindle]

my Evis is still hitting 200k during shadow dance tho

[minor cape]

[minor cape]

how dude teach me

i tried it with brew

cold blood finality

just cant do it

😩

[dusk spindle]

after building stacks with flag i just shadow dance with kyrian with blade

[minor cape]

ooh with flag

nvm then

[minor cape]

with flag?

[odd mortar]

no cdr

Is this good?

[dusk spindle]

538k with flag is insane

[odd mortar]

If I am reading it right, my secret tech is 95k avg

am i dogshit?

😅

[dusk spindle]

mine is hitting 90k average i think ur doing something wrong

[rancid merlin]

wait I heard sub is Dogsht now in pvp 0.o

Lol

hmm 98 Secret is just fine

98K

[languid ravine]

!!! Wait this is actually genius
Ret pala brain is programmed like this: wait for rogue to come out of stealth.
But what if you never come out of stealth??

he is gonna wait forever

sick emote, once agaain rogue discord best in the world

[rancid merlin]

I hate it here LMFAO

[languid ravine]

yeah me too

[rancid merlin]

that shit is sending me lol

who made that

[dusk spindle]

my assa sepsis is hitting like 180k

[languid ravine]

over how many seconds

[dusk spindle]

12

[languid ravine]

not great not terrible

[dusk spindle]

sorry 7 but yea it is pretty bad

too much people have the ability of just dispelling it 😦

[jolly sierra]

had any of u got a catalyst charge?

[queen geyser]

Yehehbooi

Getting that hourglass ring when I get conq capped

[jolly sierra]

wait

why did u that?

u already have the tier w that stats

and malicia chestpiece

[wintry dew]

[wary spire]

https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1666200129286594575?s=20

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)

Blizzard has posted Patch 10.1.5 PTR development notes for today which includes more class and talent changes for Mages, Druids and more!

#Dragonflight #Warcraft

https://t.co/1JRya3ZkTd

Twitter · Jun 6, 2023, 9:47 PM

https://youtu.be/CQeezCdF4mk

[lucid citrus]

Sadly no i did the quest and got no charges

[wary spire]

Wdym ferals aren't rogues?!

[jolly sierra]

tf did they now

[jolly sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQFMUv_cQBk

the fuck is this

heheheheheeh

[wary spire]

No hehe!

This is seroius!

[jolly sierra]

hehehehehehehehheheh

they fucked deathbolt

[wary spire]

I don't think i saw a single affliction in s2.

[jolly sierra]

i did

but are good news if they get buffed

[wary spire]

Were you AFFLICTED?

[jolly sierra]

YES

[wary spire]

Hehehe

[quaint cedar]

Rogue being listed in the 10.1.5 announcement had to be a typo

[unborn blade]

yo. Do I want 2x Shadowflame Wreath, or MH Sophic Devo + OH Wreath? (pls tell me why)
sub with 4-set, using sec tech/rotten build, 447 pvp ilvl, if it matters

[tawny kestrel]

u want double sophic devotion

[unborn blade]

why not wreath?

[tawny kestrel]

because shadowflame is awful for sub

a dot isnt going to help you nearly as much as an agility proc

[unborn blade]

word, ty man

[jolly sierra]

rogue is blizzard's son which was left to buy cigarettes

[queen geyser]

Okay

Maybe it's my mickey mouse build

Maybe I'm just on top of gearing

But Outlaw has felt

Good today

Probably the abundance of MM Hunters giving the new buffs a whirl

Kinda hard counter them with Disarm and spammable Feint and 1 minute Evasion

[odd mortar]

ok yeah sub feels like shit

[potent pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-callouts-rogue-gif-26757787

[queen geyser]

I'll have to play a SS or two to see if it holds up in rated tho

[jolly sierra]

cum boots

[topaz cedar]

STOP

[jolly sierra]

CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS CUMBOOTS

[queen geyser]

[stoic spruce]

Sub had flag this while time?

[topaz cedar]

nuh uh,,

no cumboots they are simply

sticky..

[stoic spruce]

The nerve

[jolly sierra]

sticky and doing very good dmg

[cosmic seal]

is outlaw still shitty ? And how does sub feels after nerf ?

[topaz cedar]

outlaw is broken op if you remember the secret ddos tactic

step 1 hire a russian botnet

[jolly sierra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/13zz5st/cheating_isnt_possible_in_wow_pvp/

[queen geyser]

I would say it's... solid-ish, if you know what you're doing and you're willing to put up with less damage (citation needed)

@tawny kestrel Psst

[odd mortar]

wtb wtb

@jolly sierra hi

[jolly sierra]

xd

[potent pivot]

it's not that great still yeah. sub still feels decent so far, imo

[potent pivot]

let's try to tone down the trolling a little

[jolly sierra]

= )

[chrome oracle]

where did you get his picture of me

[fathom dew]

sub still feels good

[ionic crown]

IS SUB DEAD?

STILL GOOD?

[lucid citrus]

still good

[lucid citrus]

Which crafted helm is better?

[jolly bear]

this is all trash and I already have the chest, which is trash. should I get the shoulders or just get a socket on my 450 ring

[queen geyser]

Socket

[languid ravine]

Ive seen one in Skirmish, shit did like two assrogues in DPS, even in a short round

kek

[pale storm]

You could get shoulders with catalyst out next week you could swap for tier I guess

Although I think shoulders is worst tier

[jolly bear]

does it have to be a conquest piece

[potent pivot]

for catalyst?

basically any gear from s2 will work

raid, m+ or conquest

don't think you can catalyst honor gear

[tribal bay]

what spec is everyone playing

[harsh steppe]

sub

[jolly bear]

sub if you like winning

[potent pivot]

assa is fine as well

outlaw's a bit... behind

[jolly bear]

the worst spec in the game tied with both dps DK specs*

:(

[stoic spruce]

so true

at least we have gouge c:

[jolly bear]

everyone does

[stoic spruce]

Dks don't is what I mean

[jolly bear]

they have blinding sleet its the same thing

[tribal bay]

lol rip

rip flarky ❤️

[quaint cedar]

I think DK is still slightly worse but yeah outlaw is a bit rough right now

Still playable though

[jolly bear]

is it as shit in pve or is this a pvp only problem

[potent pivot]

it's fine in pve

pretty OP even

[quaint cedar]

I thought outlaw was mid in pve

Idk though, don't really do pve

[unborn portal]

4th highest rogue on ladder NA was in my solo shuffle on my priest

that was uhhh

interesting

he cracked everyone

never seen his name before though

[potent pivot]

i thought he meant DK

lol

[unborn portal]

his name is greyed out on drustvar

and checkpvp he doesnt even show up

interesting

the plot thickens

[jolly bear]

nah I meant outlaw

[jolly bear]

the clot thickens

[potent pivot]

[unborn portal]

I just wonder who it is

is all

he killed two people before they pressed trinket

[jolly sierra]

what the

just noticed

i can craft a 437 vers mastery dagger rn

if i get 6 vault coins

[potent pivot]

weird

[unborn portal]

yeppers

he was v good

[jolly sierra]

2 crappy rings and a trinket i won't use

at least luck is in my side to try to buy the stuff

bought 3 wyrm shits

[copper maple]

Mmm, wyrm shit

[jolly bear]

why not get a socket

[jolly sierra]

nah i have some already

[odd mortar]

Does anyone use MES weakaura for Arena, prompts whats been used on the screen?

[jolly sierra]

i do but i dont understand ur question

[odd mortar]

I use it, and was curious if anyone else did

I find it hard to see them when they pop up and wanted to see if anyone customized how they appear

[jolly sierra]

nah

it just pop up and u can see it with a sound alert

seems ok

[odd mortar]

im blind lol

I really just need something to track shaman totems, offensively and defensively so I know when link is down etc

[jolly sierra]

that is too much already lol

maybe u should use ability team tracker

[odd mortar]

yeah I only really have this issue when on rogue, the casters i see them easier

ill figure it out

[potent pivot]

you can go into the WA settings and put them wherever you'd like

[proven kayak]

Got again 2 tier choices

[jolly sierra]

i just got w monk and warr this time

w monk im thinking and warr shuld reach 1k6 for 4set

[wanton breach]

why won't you use that trinket?

[jolly sierra]

im not sub

[wanton breach]

it's not bad for sin either :p

[jolly sierra]

is awful

crit is shit and u benefit more from haste instead

[chrome schooner]

It is way, way worse than insignia for Assa

[jolly sierra]

u won't do stuff like in shadowlands

where was decent cuz was sync w vendetta

[chrome schooner]

Vendetta... every night I cry

[jolly sierra]

dude pls

help in forums w the rework

we need u

[minor cape]

but like

if you were human it would be good

[jolly sierra]

ofc

but im thicc

so i cant

btw gotta sort the yugioh cards and going to sleep for now

[minor cape]

YOU PLAY A PANDA

[jolly sierra]

YEAH I DO

[minor cape]

the picture you know which one

[jolly sierra]

oh u wanna cap

I DO

[minor cape]

WHY ARE YOU A FURRY

[jolly sierra]

I DONT KNOW

[minor cape]

[jolly sierra]

i'll need to sort the stuff faster

[dapper chasm]

What's the best PvP choice here?

Invest in another tier piece for 4pc later or get the helm now allowing this week's points to go to second weapon?

[minor cape]

head probably

for tier set

eventually

[dapper chasm]

You think so?

I'm a returning player from the old days, doing more than 2pc seems... weird

[minor cape]

idk i've seen multiple players who do it and trickz says it's good

[dapper chasm]

Still, getting tier is probably best as I have direct access to conq helm whenever I want

[minor cape]

but i guess its personal pref

[dapper chasm]

Ok, random person, I trust you

[minor cape]

🫡

[dapper chasm]

But if you're so smart

Answer me this

[minor cape]

im not

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What do with my 900 conq this week?

wep 2?

[minor cape]

you have wep tho?

both

[dapper chasm]

No, other is 437 hc

[minor cape]

then sure

but not the dagger

or like

[dapper chasm]

You're mad

[minor cape]

depends what you want

[dapper chasm]

To have two knives

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-the-simpsons-two-knives-i-gotta-tell-ya-this-is-pretty-terrific-gif-27687620

[minor cape]

if you want mastery go for claws, if you want more shadow technique and transmog go for dagger

but many people play claw or axe or sword rn

[dapper chasm]

They're not real rogues

Might as well go play fury

[minor cape]

i do it for mastery stick and i hate it

[dapper chasm]

Don't do it to yourself

Come back to the fold

[minor cape]

its like 1 knife 1 sword

so still rog

[dapper chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/nollywood-cry-desespoir-black-boy-cry-black-kid-cry-gif-21448854

Tell yourself that

[odd mortar]

the urge to delete my character is strong

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btw, I got the 450 tier piece from a token