pvp

[nova viper]

Lol u play rotten?

I hear is only good in simp but is completly unplayable

[jolly sierra]

depends of ur rog concept

i need buffs

lol

[minor cape]

law and assa for sure

no way that sub needs buffs

[nova viper]

Needs nerf

or better

delete from game

[minor cape]

no

[potent pivot]

what

[nova viper]

SIM*

[jolly sierra]

remove blind

[minor cape]

sub needs to live

[nova viper]

Autocorrect

[nova viper]

Why

[potent pivot]

it's good in pvp

[jolly sierra]

too op

[potent pivot]

and i like the image

:d

[minor cape]

blind so op

[potent pivot]

nonono buff all 3

[minor cape]

5 sec piece of shit

[jolly sierra]

2m cd for 5s is too much

[minor cape]

once every 2 minutes

[jolly sierra]

better remove it

[minor cape]

i wouldnt mind if they just made it ranged gouge with some type of cdr

[jolly sierra]

i would be happy

if is for that cd

they merge outlaw blind with all miss chances into it

[minor cape]

but like blind is still super useful

[jolly sierra]

for all specs

[minor cape]

even with 2 min cd and 5s

its still a good cd paired with other controls

[jolly sierra]

ofc is still good, but the cd is shit

monks do the same for less cd

im jealous

[minor cape]

monks also dont have gouge, cheap shot, sap and kidney

[jolly sierra]

fair enough

but can do 200k in 0.5 seconds

fair trade

[minor cape]

tbf sub can too

[jolly sierra]

sectec?

[minor cape]

sectech is not 0.5s but cold blooded eviscerates can

[jolly sierra]

im sure ppl will bark about nerfs for rog in forums as always

u always get the nerf bat

[minor cape]

of course they will

me trinket sap nerf rogue!!

how come me die in a duel with no defensives and 40% hp REEEEEE CHEESE

how come me warrior don't have stealth and sap!!

[jolly sierra]

rogue watch adapt trinket:

saps and kidney afterwards

adapt trinket user:

😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

[potent pivot]

literally watched a priest die in a 2.3k+ 3v3 game to a sub rogue in the first 10 seconds

basically boomie+sub one shot them

but they just didn't react

they did nothing

[jolly sierra]

SL s1 was even worse

[minor cape]

they will be screaming for a nerf

[jolly sierra]

i still recall a hpal geing 1 shotted by a MM and a rog dragging him to duel

[minor cape]

its so easy to not die to rogue as a priest cmon

disc is like an awesome anti rogue healer

[minor cape]

that hunter was mad

[jolly sierra]

they themselves already has a passive dmg reduction from stuns

so is hard to die as a priest

[jolly sierra]

that video was hilarious af, is in reddit

but cant recall the name

[minor cape]

in worldofpvp?

havent seen that one

[jolly sierra]

is a video from like 2020

a tauren hpal being dragged away by a rog and has hunter mark

then the hunt appears in screen after having pally dead cuz casted aimed shot inside it

[alpine tinsel]

why wont they die man lmao

[minor cape]

aint that hard to kill a shadow priest past dispersion

[languid ravine]

I just love that blizz made the effort to upscale the old world content to new levels

really makes me feel extra stupid for having paid 30k honour points to make my pvp gear tolerable against world quests

[jolly sierra]

wut

[languid ravine]

nevermind

its just that that honor gear is

[alpine tinsel]

maybe it'll feel better tomorrow once I have some gear

[languid ravine]

freaking SIXTY itemlevel below LAST PATCH upgraded pvp gear in the overworld

SIXTY

which in itself was only heroic pve levels

lmao

[vocal surge]

Big brain time from Blizz

[jolly sierra]

the worst is

they buffed all npc to do more dmg in this patch

[vocal surge]

Now to farm

the rest of my honor

for the night

[languid ravine]

it can take 2 hours if you win everything

for 20 if you lose

XD

or*

[jolly sierra]

oh that is easy

just go skirmishes

lol

[languid ravine]

I think doing them weekly quests is actually the best way always

[jolly sierra]

that too

the problem are queue times tho

[copper maple]

I was annoyed by adapt trinket once.

Because it was a hunter in stealth so I couldn't sap it off instantly xD

He was also human

[jolly sierra]

that trinket works well sometimes against people which have micro ccs

for example it won't trigger by gouges

but overall if u use a big one its crap

[copper maple]

But it means you can't get out of a cheap shot if needed

[jolly sierra]

also true

u need a kidney to trigger

well now im thinking it

its very shitty

[copper maple]

If you wanna kill the guy with it just use cheap shots

[jolly sierra]

cheap shot then kidney and u have full original kidney experience

to delete somebody without react

[copper maple]

But other classes have longer stuns, don't they

Or they all nerfed to 4?

[jolly sierra]

think are nerfed

[copper maple]

Hoj was the longest afaik

Like kidney

[jolly sierra]

cap is 5

[copper maple]

And adapt triggers from 5 sec right?

Idk if there're any more stuns that trigger it now. Maybe leg sweep?

[jolly sierra]

yeah 5+ secs

leg sweep does trigger it i recall

but not paralysis

[minor cape]

is there ever

a situation

where having adapt trinket is better than not having it

[wary spire]

Well in matchups when you're going to trinket everything anyway.

So, duel against a paladin?

[minor cape]

you only need to trinket hoj 🤔

i mean, adaptation is just so stupid

dont even need to force a dudes trinket - kidney him and kill on the next go

[alpine tinsel]

what games are yall taking disarm instead of veil into

[minor cape]

warrior, dh

it's not about not getting killed often times but about peeling your teammate

oh, also mm hunter 100%

[alpine tinsel]

what about into sub

[minor cape]

yeah into sub i just play both

[topaz cedar]

i mean ret has aoe blind but yeah i mean the total kits are different, just thought it was closer than monk

also honestly i hate that blind is just desync'd from trinket now, its dumb, especially in 2s, before the easiest win condition was just:

force trinket so you can blind -> sap and kill dps etc

now you can just cheap blind sap and you can do it again before their trinket is back

[languid ravine]

wasnt it desynced even in season 1?

[topaz cedar]

no one ran the vanish cdr

[wary spire]

Hoping for tuning this Friday

Preferably assa buffs

Blizz plz.

[languid ravine]

I just lost a 1v2 where I killed both enemy players

[wary spire]

I guess there's no draw built in so you lost a coinflip.

Or maybe you both lost. Depends on the code.

[copper maple]

Who dies first I guess

[wary spire]

But the system detected them dead at the same time. Rocky style.

Btw have anyone ever won a 2v3?

I don't think I ever managed.

[minor cape]

fake news - many did

in the start of the season it was the most popular build

towards the middle it was replaced by brew

but some people still played it like evasionx

i also did

[topaz cedar]

i mean fair, not heard of evasionx, but by "now" I just meant compared to past xpacs

[minor cape]

yeah now every rogue is doing it

[topaz cedar]

I was also not really a fan of outlaw's 1.5min cd blind before but vanish would still gate the sap off behind the regular cd

[minor cape]

the ones wout tier set arent

but still

[languid ravine]

man I was just starting to enjoy Sub, then I get into a full smorc lobby at 1500 mmr xd

maximum int

[minor cape]

well then do what you have to do against smorc

shiv the motherfuckers to oblivion, play thiefs bargain, disarm, veil

[twin burrow]

I love when rogues don't realize they are David in David v Goliath

[minor cape]

peel

[wary spire]

Not duel?

[languid ravine]

yeah but its actually two goliaths and you have another goliath on your slide blocking your slingshots

[twin burrow]

Beautiful poetry

[minor cape]

i dunno i drop all towards survivability when i have to

[wary spire]

But then what's the win condition?

[minor cape]

stun healer

aint that hard

[wary spire]

I don't know. It feels like I just constantly have to run away in the bayblade hell.

[topaz cedar]

biggest danger with smorc lobbies at 1500 mmr is them just globalling your healer bc they forgot to press buttons and they're on stun dr already

its literally always throwable by teammates at that bracket

in like half a sec

[minor cape]

i dunno man sub has so much ways to live and win against that shit

dont even see it as much of a problem

rn

[topaz cedar]

or your other dps kiting out of line and dying

[wary spire]

Yeah but consider these points :

[topaz cedar]

you yourself shouldn't really be dying easily unless you're going way over aggro with your cds

[wary spire]

• I'm trash

[minor cape]

me too

[wary spire]

We're not the same!

[minor cape]

[wary spire]

Well true. My games usually go this way - I burst at the start, nobody dies, I just run around and try to peel - ether my second burst kills or healer succumbs to pressure of zug.

On assa I was just deadge.

Like yesterday I wanted to try assa again but then thought "what would I do if I'm up against 2 zugs".

The answer was as short as it was sad.

[minor cape]

impotant thing is to setup your burst

then you can know for sure

someone dies

or you force cooldowns

[wary spire]

I cheap shot healer and dps (should kidney but mah muscle memory), burst, sometimes throw out a cloud of desparation at the end

Yep that's running like a headless chicken time

[minor cape]

you can calculate that tho

[topaz cedar]

you can force a lot of defensives / sometimes even get a kill if you bomb like halfway into a kidney, and recheap the kill target so they cant leave. People just really dont like trinketing half a stun and you can take advantage of it

[minor cape]

this is very true

delayed bombs are huge

[topaz cedar]

bomb is honestly a win condition of its own though, slightly less nowadays with all the extra pw barriers, emerald communion etc but it's still huge enough that you shouldnt really be just throwing it out

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-praying-for-you-god-love-peace-gif-18029756

me praying for a tier piece today

[languid ravine]

Now that finally Cheat Death is fixed in PvP I am glad to report that it has been successfully nerfed down to 1% of max HP (down from 7%)

job well done hope they get another raise

wait they get layoffs these days innit, I keep mixing those up

[queen geyser]

Me praying I don’t get a tier piece

[harsh steppe]

?

why lol

[queen geyser]

It’s so

Garbage for outlaw

[harsh steppe]

oh lol

[queen geyser]

Not only is it a dps loss but it straight up breaks gouge and blind

[harsh steppe]

hmm it looks like about half of the top outlaws use two piece

[wary spire]

Wait since when?

[narrow tangle]

i ddidn't like the tier piece for sub, flag finality echo feels better and it doesn't benefit from tier 2 set

and if you go 4 tier you'll lose dmg because it doesnt give mastery

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-swaroop-rsj-cry-badha-gif-20583027

me trying to miraculously get to 1600 before reset to get my 2nd piece

[potent pivot]

How does it not?

[narrow tangle]

Of course it helps, but it's very understated when compared to the incredible advantage it gives when playing with rotten.

[potent pivot]

I think it’s still really good without Rotten

Also atm I think there’s at least 1 build you can play 4set quite successfully iirc

[minor cape]

i doubt 4 set will work

lets be real, you will loose too much for it

too much mastery, too much versa

and 2 set is mega cracked for sub idk what you are talking about dude

it cuts people into pieces

[narrow tangle]

i was comparing the effect while using flag finality

[minor cape]

oh sry

sure

then it isn't that good, but you still get free energy tho on your bursts and you dont really loose much mastery cause pants + chest is mastery

[narrow tangle]

i totally agree t30 is good even feels broken while using rotten, i am so glad we have such tier bonus, dont mind me i just wished it was that broken in finality build, nothing serious :P

[narrow tangle]

i agree

you'll get %20 evis crit dmg while symbols while losing probably %10 mastery for haste

[minor cape]

kinda sucks you cant really do rotten flag

but that would be too cracked

i mean you can but then you loose macabre

which i never managed to make work

some people play without macab somehow 🤔

[surreal barn]

Flag without macabre works fine

The CDR from rotten build actually brings it back faster than normal which is nice af

You can flag duel the healer to build up stacks, kidney healer when duel ends, blind then do your go with massive mastery

[odd mortar]

i am also praying for tier today, but i already have helm i just need token TBH

the unreachable unachievable token

[surreal barn]

good luck 🤞🏼

[odd mortar]

i almost rage deleted my account yesterday lmfao

climbed over 100cr and was getting close then lost it all

[surreal barn]

I swing like 200 just know it’s no big deal

We are talking about shuffle right

[harsh steppe]

welcome to the club, been stuck at 1k for months

[surreal barn]

You’ll climb hyper. You aren’t a clicker are you?

[harsh steppe]

aw thanks 🙂 soonTM & no lol

[minor cape]

i dunno fellas i kinda climbed to 1600 in the first week and just went to play 2s 🫡

with the current shuffle state

[harsh steppe]

trying really hard to work on keybinds for my focus target, i'm still tab targeting between targets, i have my focus keybinds set up, but it's incredibly difficult to press them while trying to do everything else

[minor cape]

at least you have focus macros

[harsh steppe]

where do yall keybind yalls focus stuff

[minor cape]

ctrl + additional mouse buttons

[harsh steppe]

ahh hmm i may try that

[minor cape]

but ngl i havent pressed my focus macro once

cause its too hard to handle for my small brain that runs on mostly dumplings and dr pepper

[surreal barn]

I only play at work and can’t comms lol. I’d have done the same

[minor cape]

and i got pretty good to just tabbing to my target

[harsh steppe]

same but i'm also trying to get used to my target arena 1/2/3 keybinds too

[minor cape]

i do use a focus macro on warlock to cast fears backwards

are arena 123 even that good? i think its like more confusion than just tabtarget + retabbinder

[potent pivot]

I prefer it tbh

[surreal barn]

It’s pretty damn good esp when hopping from class to class

[potent pivot]

I only have focus macros for a couple important things like step and blind

Then I just use arena123 for most everything else

[harsh steppe]

fuck it imma force myself to do it today, i'll remove tab targeting completely for now until i get used to it

it's time to fucking climb baby!

https://tenor.com/view/hooray-letsgo-lets-go-gif-18410791

[pale storm]

Removing tab targeting isn’t going to make you miraculously climb. Change your tab target to only target enemy players and you are chilling.

[fathom dew]

I use mouse wheel up for arena1, down for arena2 and wheel click for arena3 and it’s definitely helped

Tab targeting against demo locks or hunters is cancer

[harsh steppe]

enemy players still takes too long to cycle through, & still targets the wrong target often, i’ve tried it already

[fathom dew]

GL hyper I believe in you

[nova viper]

Leeeeeeeeeets go 53% winratio, make 4/2 on Solo and get +5 ratio XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[fathom dew]

If you ever want to run some 2s I could heal you on disc priest

[harsh steppe]

aw man i would love that

[vocal surge]

Didnt expect a Honkai Star Rail meme in here lol

[spring bough]

Isn’t this maintenance until 11am pst today? Maybe some unmentioned mmr tweaks that would be amazing

[vivid dove]

Any one shot builds for sub currently?

[lucid citrus]

#pvp-faq

[wary spire]

Is subterfuge over extra range - bait?

[copper maple]

Why not both

[wary spire]

Coz I like the energy one.

Can't take all 3.

[minor cape]

idk guys subter is just so good

how do some people play without it

[minor cape]

you can just go meld and do a tripple cheapshot and same through vanish

[wary spire]

I'm rocking this currently.

[minor cape]

looks good to me

[unborn portal]

I could never

drop subter

once you play it

[minor cape]

+++++

prey on the weak is so good too tho

is vigor worth dropping prey and blackjack

[wary spire]

Blackjack makes me sad every time zug runs in.

And it's apparently bugged on blind?

Not sure, but read on the forums.

[nova viper]

30 minutes que

leeeeeeeets gooooo

this game is piece of shit xD

[surreal barn]

I flip between acrobatic strikes and subterfuge depending on the comp

[nova viper]

i flip

from my window

[surreal barn]

lol

[nova viper]

when i play

[wary spire]

Maybe I should really try 2s...

[fathom dew]

I have way more fun in 2s than solo lately but 1600-1800 bracket is sweaty

Plus the amount of hunters in 2s is sickening

[waxen meteor]

is there a long maint today?

[pale storm]

https://twitter.com/holinka/status/1663561697637060614?s=20

Brian Holinka (@holinka)

After nearly 11 years, Friday will be my last day on World of Warcraft and at Blizzard. I'm excited to spend time off with my family this summer, after which, I'll begin a new adventure with my old friend and mentor, Greg Street.

Twitter · May 30, 2023, 3:03 PM

uh oh

the only pvp dev that ever responded/gave info is leaving RIP

[last jasper]

Great. Maybe they will actually stop rolling out idiotic changes

[surreal barn]

Pretty sure he came around right after MoP yeah?

[last jasper]

😂

[surreal barn]

lol

[last jasper]

Chad

[wary spire]

My heart is full of neutrality!

[rose wigeon]

Anyone who doesnt realize how big of a loss that is for us is definitely new to the game and doesnt know how much that guy has done for the community over the last 10 years

[unborn portal]

nah

rip bozo

[wary spire]

Exactly! Have no idea who the guy is.

I like the hate train tho, so choo choo!

[rose wigeon]

Holinka has been the only developer looking out for us for years, i mean way back to even WoD when he was the only dev actively trying to bring us new content and changes (even if Ashran was a total L haha)

Look at how the top AWC competitors and PVPers are responding to that tweet. Look at the respect the TOP of the ladder has for him.

[spring bough]

So MMR rework next season got it

S2 just scuffed then got it lmfao

[last jasper]

Meanwhile. Awc champs can’t even get glad mount in current season…

[wary spire]

They're literally me fr fr

[wise breach]

It's a loss for sure, but on the other hand people tend to overestimate the impact of a single dev, his role will obviously be filled by someone else

Plus he hasn't been solely focused on PvP in a while, he was the lead combat designer

[rose wigeon]

When no one is on PVPs side, having a single dev holds alot of weight on the community, but you are right people think that he was capable of saving ALL of pvp. Thats unrealistic but he did do alot for a single dev, he was also one of the only devs who plays the game openly and played with the community regularly to get feedback

[wise breach]

Which is a huge role, of course, but it's always a team making decisions

[rose wigeon]

Meanwhile our last PVP focused developer was caught getting selfplayed by the top RBG team NA because he couldnt get to 2100 after 10 years of playing pvp

[wise breach]

Thing about Holinka is that he wasn't afraid to be the face of Blizzard for PvP community and that counts for a lot

It's also why he got a lot of shit way back, but frankly the PvP community can be toxic af so that likely happens to anyone

[rose wigeon]

If anyones active on twitter you know how few developers allow you to tweet at them. Holinka was a face and thats what we need sometimes considering we get ZERO feedback from devs on the state of PVP, hes the only one that tried to help communicate. With him gone PVPers are going back to the dark ages, we will have no feedback or comms from blizzard at all

[jolly sierra]

my wish was granted

i hope this time they gives the opportunity to someone better

[rose wigeon]

lmao the level of uninformed in this channel today is wild, new levels of trying to blame the only dude that helped us. This is a massive L for the pvp community. I do hope whoever replaces will show the same interest or passion for the community as he did

https://twitter.com/holinka/status/1663564554780176385?s=20

Brian Holinka (@holinka)

@leekatv I've read every tweet and certainly acted on a few. Thank you for your passion for the game.

Twitter · May 30, 2023, 3:14 PM

[jolly sierra]

why so? he story wise always had a mess

and always had people wanting him fired

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[pale storm]

He was active and responsive, listened to the community especially some of the top pvpers and brought some decent changes. He left to go work with ghostcrawler who was also a really active pvp dev back in the day

[jolly sierra]

dunmo how good was hearing community

[last jasper]

Ion was active and responsive as well. We all know how it ends

[jolly sierra]

so we got the CC changes mess

[wise breach]

As if the PvP community is one unified voice

[last jasper]

Even tho, if the guy was all about good changes and couldn’t push them. He’s not good lead dev then

[jolly sierra]

he managed through BFA and SL pvp seasons

objectively a mess

cant say his path was made of roses or something else

[wary spire]

So wait
He broke sap blind to "test things out"
And now fucking skidaddles?!

[jolly sierra]

i hope somebody better takes his role and can move game for good

[vivid dove]

Idk if I’m blind but i don’t see any one shot build in there

[jolly sierra]

this season just went a step back

anyways im going to breakfast

see ya

[wary spire]

Wait what time is it on your side?

[last jasper]

Bfa is when he took his lead role as combat designer 🥲

[potent pivot]

You say this, but look at the state pvp has been in for idk how long. He was not the sole dev focused on pvp, nor was that his main focus lately. Now we just hope for fresh faces and fresh attitudes.

[lucid citrus]

#pvp-faq message

Try this one, it should lead you to the sun builds and all of those builds can one shot

[harsh steppe]

should my macro for focus kick/arena1/2/3 include shadowstep?

[potent pivot]

Not saying he isn’t a good guy who tried his hardest, I just disagree that this will be that big of a hit to the pvp community

[wary spire]

If you're a masher you can eat up both of em shadowstep charges

[harsh steppe]

ah im def a masher lol, ok i'll seperate them, ty

[unborn portal]

I use cast sequence for my step kick

not once have I stepped the same person twice

I press same button twice and it steps, then kicks

[rose wigeon]

Definitely need fresh faces and new talent

[wise breach]

Tbh PvP in DF has had a ton of positive changes

[unborn portal]

legion was the last time pvp was good

[surreal barn]

We gonna be fine we are rogues

[wise breach]

I'm not a fan of the current meta, but class balance isn't PvP's biggest issue

PvP gearing is the best it's ever been

Shuffle is a good addition overall despite the problems

[unborn portal]

that ones still out on the table chief

[harsh steppe]

do you have seperate keybinds for just kick 1/2/3? or do you just always ss kick

[wary spire]

The only thing I miss from legion is pants.

[surreal barn]

Those heal pants man

[unborn portal]

@harsh steppe I have kick/ focus kick for when in range and I have step kick 123

[harsh steppe]

ahh tyty

[wary spire]

At this point it's easier to just learn piano than wow pvp.

[unborn portal]

Im a healer now so

disc priest now

havent touched rogue all of s2

swapped last few weeks of s1

[spring bough]

They just need to hot fix in a no MMR cap and it’ll all be fine somehow someway 😂

[unborn portal]

mmr cap so

dumb

[spring bough]

Are we even over a dozen players yet over 2400? Last I checked it was like 3 rogues, locks had like 6 or so and a few other classes. Some classes max was 2200 or so lol

[unborn portal]

I mean it will be a good indicator to see how much inflation is going up per week

same time next week if someones around 2420~ for example

[jolly sierra]

13 PM

i turned very lazy in my holidays

dont get why they hard capped mmr

the thing is we need another head for pvp HQs

with new ideas

this is not the end and can be a chance to turn better

[potent pivot]

Pretty sure they’ve already got a head pvp person, I’d assume

[jolly sierra]

nice

its venruki im sure lol

[surreal barn]

Servers up it’s judgement time in the vault

[alpine tinsel]

GL everyone

[surreal barn]

Lurkers shoulders yuck

I almost wanna just take the gem token

[alpine tinsel]

im stuck in the loading screen lols

[wary spire]

Ah. That explains it lol.

20 here in jermany

[spring bough]

Can pika co chair with him? That would be wild lol

[alpine tinsel]

lol haste/verse legs and head for assa and crit ring

[spring bough]

If I get no good pvp gear in vault and get a beacon or dragon bomb trinket I’m making my pve transition today 😂

[alpine tinsel]

guess I should have looted as sub

[median isle]

Have no tier and got tier shoulders as an option in vault, should I take that or on-use trinket?

[spring bough]

Do you have 2pc or can you make 4pc with it?

[surreal barn]

I got those shoulders in mine too, debating on making 4pc

[spring bough]

I’m guessing most aren’t going 4pc for sub cause of losing so much mastery. I’d prob lean trinket if you already have 2pc

[median isle]

Have no tier pieces currently, I can get to 1600 for the token and have 2 piece if I take the shoulders

[spring bough]

I’d prob go shoulders then. I’m rocking them and the legs for sub. Went vers/mast gloves and helm

Praying for that sweet tier chest in vault then gonna craft some sexy vers/mastery shoulders and slap a pvp token on them

[median isle]

This was my exact plan too lol

[waxen meteor]

Holy fuck, still no tier

[jolly sierra]

gotcha that is one of the reasons we don't connect ingame most of time lol

[surreal barn]

Sorry @waxen meteor that blows

[jolly sierra]

heh, imagine them arguing in the HQ cuz one did a cc chain

[jolly sierra]

try getting lfr tier sets at this step

[surreal barn]

I decided on a socket lol I’ll rock 2 pc some more

[jolly sierra]

as a filler

u can get them up to 424

monks were doing miracles with the old tier at s2

u should be ok

[last jasper]

U need run m+ for item to upgrade them up to 424 (((

[jolly sierra]

i just run w outdoor events and got the 424

[last jasper]

I saw it says u can get it from outdoor. But couldn’t find any quest with it. Idk

[tiny parrot]

set loot to combat for fist wep for sub? or can sub roll it?

[stoic spruce]

is there no room to grab imp bte?

[jolly sierra]

look u need drake shit to do that

outdoor events awards coins from the bags

those bags worth 30 coins

total

u got another drake shit from 2k flightstone achiv

outdoor rares there awards shards too

[fading blade]

You think the 90%a mast embellish worth

[surreal barn]

Finally a buff that gets me

[jolly sierra]

F

[fading blade]

Tryna decide if I should pve the spark or make some 90% mast shoulders

[lucid citrus]

fuck yes i got 2 set finally lol

whats the rotation with 2 set now? 😅

[spring bough]

Phase 1 Staying alive Phase 2 ??? Phase 3 one shot

[fallen wharf]

cheap - blades/badge/dance macro - shadowstrike - cold blood - sec tech - symbols - shadowstrike - evisc and so many people are already dead

Disclaimer: I don't play in the 2K+ bracket, so take that with a grain of salt 🙂

Does Sub NEED the 4 piece? I have 2 already... curious if we're shooting for 4 or not. The stats on 4 piece suck.

[spring bough]

For pvp doesn’t seem like it. Pve looks like it’s running it don’t know if that makes a diff. Maybe run it if rotten build for pvp?

[fallen wharf]

Right this is strictly PvP speaking and yes with rotten build

[tiny parrot]

probably will be a 2p build and a 4p build by the end of s2. i can imagine people complaining of ST being broken, maybe they finally compensate evis dmg and 4p becomes best.

[harsh steppe]

i have a short vid on the full rot w two piece if you want i can dm it to ya

[lucid citrus]

sure dm me

[jolly sierra]

u up now? lol

[harsh steppe]

yah took a nap lol

[jolly sierra]

wanna the quick lesson?

[waxen meteor]

ngl, it's quite frustrating

[harsh steppe]

lemme see if i can set it up

[waxen meteor]

and the more casual character i play, the more tier set i got

[spring bough]

Anyone trying any new embellishments today since we get another? I was gonna add the silken to shoulders but might just make the piece to get vers/mast without any embellish

[jolly sierra]

sure, tell me when u are up

im opening bnet app rn

[jolly sierra]

yeah happens a lot

[waxen meteor]

rogue/dh -> 0, only the rating bonus one i haven't exchange.
ret -> 1 + rating one
hunter -> 2
priest -> 3

it's like trolling me

[jolly sierra]

the one which has no tier rn

is my monk

in those 2 weeks 0

rog, ret and warr already has at least 1 piece

w ret having 3

rog 2

[fading blade]

is the embell mast above 90% worth the craft

[wary spire]

I was so proud of myself this game. First one without panic button mashing.

[jolly sierra]

think so as sub

[harsh steppe]

gz! very nice

[jolly sierra]

lol gratz

try going 1k6

[minor cape]

wp edaniel

where you at in shuffle rn?

dudes

[jolly sierra]

i was at 2s

[fading blade]

1807

[jolly sierra]

i have 1599 rn in 2s, and like 1490 in SS

i didn't played shuffle since 4 days ago

[minor cape]

im 1600 in both 2s and shuffle and shit is deflated as hell

[jolly sierra]

i know

my partner this time is a glad

so can get the 1k6 safe meanwhile

but i will go smooth for this month

until we get some news about tuning

[minor cape]

what do you think about current state of double dps

🤔

[jolly sierra]

ded tho

[minor cape]

were playing destro sub w my friend but its just so hard into certain matchups

[jolly sierra]

can safely say

i won the 100% of double dps at 2s

some of them sub mage

[minor cape]

to be fair i did too

[jolly sierra]

XD

had a guy which almost killed me w his sub

but cloak triggered and blinded him

so i bought time and healer fully got me

[minor cape]

its easy against some healer dps comps too

for example enh healer is easy

hunter healer

disc assa

[jolly sierra]

yeah

my healer was a pevoker

so imagine the amount of trolling around

[minor cape]

but when we get queued against a fucking disc warrior

we are likr

[jolly sierra]

agree

i got fucked for a rsham arms

rsham never trinketed REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[minor cape]

at least w rsham arms you can just go rsham

[jolly sierra]

yeah was my fault tho

i went warr

bruh

for a moment forgot always sham begs for help after astral shift

[minor cape]

anyways my lock fella is switching to disc

[fathom dew]

Got 1740 in 2s a week ago and have spiraled into the low 1600s since. 2s is deflated as fuck

[jolly sierra]

agree with deflation

but feel is less deflated than s1

i was stuck at 1k4 in 2s at least in s1

[harsh steppe]

woot 1 tier piece!

[jolly sierra]

ppl was just juggling to do something

[fathom dew]

S1 wasn’t much better. I think my high was 1850

[jolly sierra]

gratz for tier

[minor cape]

me too but it was mainly cause i sucked more

[jolly sierra]

try lfr later

[fathom dew]

Meanwhile I used to hit 2.1k easy

[minor cape]

and double dps was much worse

[jolly sierra]

i got like 2050 in SS as assa in s1

but stopped after 10.0.7

cuz u know

[minor cape]

certified anyone but ret moment

[jolly sierra]

even r1 were dropping rating for rework

[alpine tinsel]

Damn went from 768 to 1596 in two SS lobbies, 4 short of my free tier piece QQ

[fathom dew]

I miss those assa days before 10.0.7 😵‍💫

[jolly sierra]

i know i know

felt like a nail to the coffin

[alpine tinsel]

STG this always happens to me. the amount of times I've hit like 1799 rating is absurd

[jolly sierra]

that moment

keep going

[alpine tinsel]

I was just quing for the quest tbh but yeah now I'll have to lol

[jolly sierra]

im up, @ me when u are ready and i'll log inmediately

doesn't worth the stress for now imo

im just farming plants for now

XDDD

cuz i already capped the chests

[alpine tinsel]

Now that I've got some gear after I was playing against everyone in 3 weeks of gear when I was in blues, those lobbies felt like cake

[unborn portal]

first time I pushed 2100 on my rogue I remember getting 2099

[alpine tinsel]

lolol

[unborn portal]

then I went down to 2040

[alpine tinsel]

yeah I dropped back down hard too

[jolly sierra]

that fkn number

[alpine tinsel]

it was in 2s at that was in SL when surv hunter was eating us for breakfast lunch and dinner

[jolly sierra]

i have 1599 RN in 2s from today

but the MMR is high so i don't lose anything if i got a defeat

[jolly sierra]

u recalled that for me from 2 days ago

got feasted for like 2 survs in a row

[minor cape]

my sub is in best days however it doesnt matter if i queue into glads on rating thats 300 below my best

[sinful ingot]

Is there a written guide on how to sub? I just can't seem to do any damage and people who stream are like 5-10-15 levels above me and i can't keep up

[fathom dew]

If I see a survival hunter in 2s I always wanna /slit

[minor cape]

pop all the shit shadowstrike sectech lets goooooooooo

[jolly sierra]

fkn survs

but its funny when u go warr and fuck them

[fathom dew]

Been thinking about playing war more this season

[jolly sierra]

do it break their fkn spears

and make them cry

[fathom dew]

They def deserve it

[minor cape]

for real tho its a long story, but you can check out icy veins guide and look at evasionx and pikaboo videos

[sinful ingot]

i was told the IV guide was bad

[minor cape]

it kinda is

for character build

but playstyle is correct

for how to deal damage part check out the videos of evasionx or pikaboo - there you will find rotation

[sinful ingot]

pikaboo is like watching a surgeon

[minor cape]

he had a guide in s1 that really helped me

thats the shit

[jolly sierra]

he helped me with generic SS tips

as rog

[fathom dew]

Does shadenox play sub? His assa guides were super helpful last season

[jolly sierra]

lemme check

[sinful ingot]

watching pikaboo is like

step 1: prep for surgery
step 2: do the surgery
step 3: patient is cancer free, you win

[jolly sierra]

he is full assa this season

[fathom dew]

What a chad

[narrow tangle]

he is doing shiv build

affli but melee

[jolly sierra]

crimson tempest one

[fathom dew]

Played assa in 2s to get 1600 but once I got 2set I haven’t looked back

[fallen wharf]

I would like that for sure if you don't mind sending it, please and thank you

[sinful ingot]

I was going to play assa but thought sub was stronger this season

[fathom dew]

It is

[minor cape]

In short sub deals damage in short windows and is peeling in between without doing much dam. On your goes you are trying to force cooldowns or kill. To do that you cc healer and kill target and sometimes off target. Your rotation would be pop all the shit -> kidney -> shadowstrike -> cold blood sec tech -> spam shadowstrike evis. There are multiple builds that you can find here in pinned or pvp faq @sinful ingot

[jolly sierra]

Chadnox

[narrow tangle]

why dont people fotm sub rogue

[fallen wharf]

I'm thinking by the time we need it, we can use the catalyst if/when ST gets nerfed. 2 piece seems fine for now yeah?

[jolly sierra]

thought they were FOTM rn with 2set

[minor cape]

its a rat class, thats why i dont need to fotm it

😎

i already am a rat!!

[fathom dew]

Sub is harder to learn than braindead 10.0.7 ret

[sinful ingot]

appreciate the writeup

[narrow tangle]

still the most least played class

not the most but one of the least

[minor cape]

dont be discouraged if your overall damage is low. Its normal for sub

[sinful ingot]

I main fury and branched out to devoker

[fathom dew]

Overall dmg def isn’t as important. I’ve had games where I match a warriors dmg and still lose

[tiny parrot]

My assumption as well. I play sub primarily for solos. But I also run high cr rbgs so I get some assa needs as well so im picking 4 for assa if needed too

[sinful ingot]

kinda enjoying the utility as devoker and thought rogue might have more of that

[jolly sierra]

i won against a dh today who did 3m more dmg than me

[narrow tangle]

i started playing wow in df, how do you even find rbg group, everyone is asking for exp

[fathom dew]

Good, bury those DH losers

[jolly sierra]

they deserve it

[fathom dew]

Whenever I think DH I automatically think mvq

[jolly sierra]

wheelchair class

[sinful ingot]

best way is to make friends with people who play rbgs

it was my way in with no exp

guess they enjoyed my personality enough to bring me on their alt runs and eventually on their main run

[fathom dew]

Wait you can make friends in-game???

[wary spire]

Btw, anyone has their cooldowns and resources like from some mecha anime or just me?

[jolly sierra]

i just go to fresh rbgs tbh

even more now i was kicked from my guild roster

[sinful ingot]

secret is to whisper people after solo shuffle and tell them they're good

[jolly sierra]

are u dale carnegie?

[sinful ingot]

am i what now

[jolly sierra]

love ur books

[fathom dew]

I got whispered by a BM hunter that my “4 button class was getting nerfed soon” was he trying to be my friend?

[jolly sierra]

yeah

he wanted to disuade u to go bm

[sinful ingot]

showing submission is a sign of friendship

[fathom dew]

Damn I guess I shouldn’t have called him an ape and ignored him

[sinful ingot]

i have a confession to make

[narrow tangle]

"by a BM hunter"

[jolly sierra]

why there are too much animal pfp here in chat?

[sinful ingot]

in solo shuffle on my warrior i stun DR'd everybody constantly to piss off the rogue while he was on my team, just so he would hyper focus on me during the other rounds and i could win easy

[narrow tangle]

animals are cute and must be protected

[jolly sierra]

kek

LOL

[jolly sierra]

300 IQ tact

[alpine tinsel]

we did it boys

[sinful ingot]

I knew it worked when he stopped up during second round to whisper me

[alpine tinsel]

my mmr was high enough that 1 win got me there lmao

[sinful ingot]

What did you get?

[alpine tinsel]

just 1606 in RSS

so now I can get that tier chest yeet

[sinful ingot]

congratz man

[alpine tinsel]

....where do I buy that tier chest?

[sinful ingot]

I think it's in the new zone

[alpine tinsel]

nice thanks

[jolly sierra]

gratz

in zaralek

north of all

[sinful ingot]

I just write "wowhead.com: whateveritemiscalled" in my browser whenever i'm in doubt on how to use a thing

[fathom dew]

Gzzzz 2set is hot af

[sinful ingot]

takes me straight into the item's page and there's always a comment that is green and spells it out for me

[jolly sierra]

i cheated for my 2set

went lfr and upgraded it to 424

[fathom dew]

Pve loser

[jolly sierra]

but i had a pvp tier before

nah its ok, if vault helps me i could got 3/4 pvp pieces

[narrow tangle]

what's the easiest braindead healer? i wanna try healer but i dont wanna put any effort

[jolly sierra]

then i use this fourth one and can disintrgrate ppl

[fathom dew]

I wanna know how 4 set does with assa so thanks for your service

[sinful ingot]

I hear MW is pretty chill to play

[jolly sierra]

tested it

are just 3k dmg overall

for ur details

in ST

[fathom dew]

It’s that bad?

[jolly sierra]

yep

[fathom dew]

Sadge

[jolly sierra]

remember is a 20% more nature dmg for 30s

instead a 40%

[fathom dew]

Oh true

[jolly sierra]

but between use it and doesn't use it

i take those 3k dmg

[wary spire]

Should've asked him for the exact 4 buttons.

I'm kinda curious now which ones.

[jolly sierra]

also, i think did the wrong approaching w it

[vocal surge]

Here's an idea for an Outlaw Build

We axe Enduring Brawler

[jolly sierra]

maybe would be higher picking shiv route

[vocal surge]

for Dagger in the Dark

[jolly sierra]

i was using the standard build + CT

[vocal surge]

and then swap gouge into Prey on the Weak

and get Ghostly Strike

[jolly sierra]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh

would it work?

[acoustic junco]

that sounds just terrible

[fathom dew]

Braindead BM hunter can’t name 4 rogue spells let alone his own

[acoustic junco]

enduring brawler is a trash talent now to be fair

[vocal surge]

Issue with Enduring Brawler

is that the downside hurts too much

as much as we love proc rates

We're probably better doing big consistent damage in a small window

w. our short Vanish CDs

than to sit out w. Enduring Brawler to keep getting stacks

since we play defensively

[jolly sierra]

u need SL s3 tier bonus back as talent imo

[vocal surge]

Outside of our DPS windows and Vanishes

we act as a stun bot

[fathom dew]

We need more

[jolly sierra]

lets see if ppl does the same

[acoustic junco]

best talents are smoke bomb, cloak, disarm . After that it's probably enduring brawler, control is king, take your cut/turn the tables.

[spring bough]

And when everything is DRd we just stand and whistle 😂

[vocal surge]

xD

[spring bough]

Oh that lock just smashing shadow fury GG stun windows

Or the DH smashing that aoe stun 😂

[jolly sierra]

or the drood random spamming cyclones

[dusk spindle]

just got sub 4P, What build should i be usingg

[jolly sierra]

everything but shoulders

[gleaming trench]

https://streamable.com/ljtyhw Has anyone encoutered this? I try to restealth but somehow i get into combat instantly after leaving it

keeps happening to me almost every arena now

[odd mortar]

2 piece with the vault coming in cluuutch

i just went 5-1 and my dps has drastically improved

glad i didnt delete him yesterday LOL

[jolly sierra]

dunno how tf u flipped that way today

u were all mad yesterday cursing the shit out the pvp

[fathom dew]

Truly inspiring

[acoustic junco]

I'd bet on bonespike and the warlock damage dleay

[jolly sierra]

bonespike dissapears after dropping combat

[wary spire]

Met a lock on 1400s that was using adaptation...

[unborn portal]

he lowkey goated w the sauce

[wary spire]

Mhm

[jolly sierra]

in SL i've met rogues using adaptation

not humans

wtf

how tf got that rating w adaptation?

[wary spire]

I KNOW RIGHT?

[gleaming trench]

idk, maybe some weird interaction bug with spike because it happens to me so often that im scared to try to go for re now

[wary spire]

Btw. Does disarm proc adaptation?

Damn should've tested it

[jolly sierra]

MOM HE IS SHOUTING AT ME

[wary spire]

ADAPTATION ON 1491

[gleaming trench]

okay i tested it in duel and it is garrote + rupture somehow

https://streamable.com/gx8d0o

[wary spire]

What is your gear?

[acoustic junco]

maybe energy ticks from garrote/rupture

ya gotta be that. open the combat log and turn on that. I bet its putting you in combat when it ticks for energy

[topaz cedar]

it never used to though

also can i just say how funny it is that on a wow rogue server, pvp is in the same misc channel as "path of exile" and "league of legends"

[wary spire]

Well tbh we got great company with transmog and that's the true endgame for everyone in wow.

[spring bough]

no pvp tier. do i go dragon bomb dispenser and moon light on the side as PVE or do i go for some gem slots lol

[acoustic junco]

you don't even want tier as outlaw, it's pathetic

[gleaming trench]

wow that may be it! i has never done it before 10.1 though

[jolly sierra]

we are a minigame

[spring bough]

oh wow they finally reduced sparks to 50 after im done farming that quest lmao

[jolly sierra]

what the

did they reduced it to 50?

[spring bough]

quest says 0/50 yup they def did was def 100 last week lol

[jolly sierra]

fuck

that is amazing

[spring bough]

neck, ring, or trinkets this week what to buy with conq. gonna upgrade this bloody token chest since no tier this week lol

[jolly sierra]

F

[spring bough]

oh crap id have to buy a token to make shoulders so idek what to do now lol

[jolly sierra]

i'll check the vault later and maybe cap the spark quest w 4 chars

here in EU u have it empty in early hours after reset

i was thinking in crafting stuff

w alts

but what

[spring bough]

ew this sparks quest is for the forbidden reach who the hell goes over there anymore

[jolly sierra]

:l

[surreal barn]

We should all meet there and 25v25 rogues

Get it over with

[odd mortar]

just got second 5-1 in a row

waiting for blizzard to bend me over...

I was burnt out yesterday and cranky probably

[jolly sierra]

eksdee

well at least u got cooled down

[jolly sierra]

think can be easier if there are any outdoor zone there

get a friend on any autoress zone and kill him every 30s

then ur friend do the same later

[spring bough]

picked up the dragon bomb dispenser. thing slaps so hard like 150k plus crits lol

[jolly sierra]

wat

is a pve trinket?

[spring bough]

it is BIS for pve. using it farming sparks lol

[jolly sierra]

ah gotcha XD

[surreal barn]

What???

[spring bough]

just farm the rares / rare quest in the reach took less than 10 min to do the sparks this week

8 from rares 15 from the quest

[jolly sierra]

get someone from here

[topaz cedar]

wait, rares drop the wpvp upgrade tokens?

[jolly sierra]

party up then go to a free for all pvp zone

[topaz cedar]

or am i misremembering names

[jolly sierra]

kill him constantly profit

[surreal barn]

Screw the sparks I want the trinket

[jolly sierra]

but need to be from the other faction tho

a

[spring bough]

rares give 8 sparks the blue WQ gives 15 and you only need 50 this week

man this week a buzzkill for pvp gear lol. upgrading the chest takes 10 trophies??? christ lol

bout to upgrade a bloody token cloak, replace the spore cloak and rock mastery shoulders lol

[jolly sierra]

are u sure will survive well?

[gleaming trench]

Omg I figured it out. It is not the energy tick. Its tier set bonus on rupture that is causing it

[spring bough]

no idea about to find out. do i have to survive well if we just one shot off the bat? lol

[jolly sierra]

XD

what

does tier set removes u from stealth?

[gleaming trench]

yes let me show you

https://streamable.com/ika3z2

[jolly sierra]

gimme a moment

i have the same 2set

[fathom dew]

as if assa wasnt gimped enough

[wary spire]

Who uses stealth as a rogue anyway.

What are you, coward?

[gleaming trench]

i was ripping my hair out trying to re today in arena lmao

i must facetank from now on, no other way

[spring bough]

everytime i hear use meld im like bro im a blood elf stop with that shit lol

[fathom dew]

at least you have meld

[spring bough]

LOL

[fathom dew]

lmaooo

[jolly sierra]

we are rogues

we are cowards

[fathom dew]

sub rogue is ultimate coward

[wary spire]

Yep love it.

[jolly sierra]

tf its true

u got unstealthed with this bs

[gleaming trench]

yep

[fathom dew]

small indie company

[wary spire]

So no tier for outlaw AND assa.

Cool.

[gleaming trench]

i cant even post it on bug reports cause its on us forums and im from eu

[jolly sierra]

i'll keep using the tier anyways

but will be more careful now tho

fkn shit

[gleaming trench]

how are you supposed to play with it, never go for restealths when rupture is up? lmao

[wary spire]

Vanish is basically feign death.

[jolly sierra]

u almost never restealth in SS tho

[waxen meteor]

feels like everybody is playing boomie now

[gleaming trench]

i mostly play 2s with my druid friend so i constantly go for re's

[jolly sierra]

ah well

[waxen meteor]

just doing causal 35k dps in bear form lol

[jolly sierra]

then its fine

u will still get benefits

[wary spire]

With this tier you'll be going for reee's as well.

[jolly sierra]

from garrote

i was playing 2s today

and had more problems with zugzug shit instead restealthing tbh

mostly i stayed in combat dotting

and when i had the chance to restealth i just garroted the healer and went full dps

[topaz cedar]

I do if its double caster and they position so i can restealth while getting topped by healer

[jolly sierra]

ah yeah i agree in that context

but in that case u can still silence them

[gleaming trench]

i wonder if that 40% bonus damage is counted as an initial hit

[jolly sierra]

w garrote

tbh

monks said their tier set didn't break ccs in ptr

but it does in live

think is bugged

[spring bough]

hit that 88% mastery in pvp. anyone past 90%? lol

[pale storm]

It’s always 50 sparks when it’s forbidden reach, it’ll go back to 100 in the other zones

I’m 91% in pvp

Think I had 93% on my main today actually

[spring bough]

is that with the zen embelish?

[pale storm]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/blakezilla

[jolly bear]

are we able to make Elemental Lariat into a pvp item with crest of honor?

[spring bough]

damn its the gloves for me then that would break it past 90. but have tier on them right now lol

[spring bough]

yes 525 conq for the token

[pale storm]

Yeah, on my Nelf I had gloves/chest but got legs this week in vault so both my rogues are same gear now

[spring bough]

i need that tier chest lol

[jolly bear]

oh sick thanks

I have 0 tier pieces dude I'm mad

[jolly sierra]

just noticed wowhead locked comments for holinka departing in the news

[spring bough]

unholy DK, devo, and a demo lock w 2 prot paladins and me

[jolly sierra]

heh

gl

watch how they spit at the prots

[spring bough]

prot told me im a bad because i dont like playing w tanks lol

5-1 as a rogue with 2 prot paladins i am done queing solo for the week feel like a champ

[jolly sierra]

who likes play with tanks in SS

they are just a wasted slot mostly

i swear i've never seen anybody liking having a tank in their team there

[spring bough]

dude told me "Look at my win rate" then won 2 games i def hit his whispers after that LMAO

[halcyon timber]

Imagine being a tank telling people how to do anything

You literally sit there like a jar of pickles

[toxic yarrow]

What class can break a hunters bubble shattering throw ?

[proven kayak]

Noone

[halcyon timber]

None

[toxic yarrow]

That’s stupid

[halcyon timber]

Eh it’s whatever

[toxic yarrow]

I can’t even mass dispel it on my shadow priest lol

[halcyon timber]

They still get smoked to dots in it

Unless mending bandage

[proven kayak]

^

[jolly sierra]

tell him i have less than 40% win rating with 1k7 cr

its like tranquility

[halcyon timber]

Hes a tank to just pve the entire time

[jolly sierra]

u still hit them w stuff from inside

[spring bough]

this dude had 20 more wins than losses and was still only 1700

[jolly sierra]

but will cover himself outside

XD

[halcyon timber]

Like a chocolate candy

[jolly sierra]

u hit a nerve

[halcyon timber]

XD

[jolly sierra]

i imagine he cant play as ret

[spring bough]

knowing me he prob reported me for abusive language GG game time for me lol

[jolly sierra]

so needs to go tank to feel better

XD

f

look that was for me in a lobby and he ended 0-6

[spring bough]

oh ive been there before lol

[jolly sierra]

i was thinking about something

for reset i'll get another entire spark

should i upgrade my infurious boots from 424 to 450 or use the 450 cum boots instead and craft a life-given shoulder with versa mastery?

need ur advice guys

think my shoulders are blue w versa haste

[last jasper]

name speaks for himself

[topaz cedar]

ya but you only have to 0-6 a couple times to be -200 etc

[stoic spruce]

outlaw tier is kinda poopy aint it?

[nova viper]

Xd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqCx6WyeDZs leeeeets goooooooo

[jolly sierra]

uh a new one nice

[topaz cedar]

t.. the.. the 450.. what.. boots..

[jolly sierra]

C U M B O O T S

[topaz cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/gokittygo-gif-24238051

i.. see...

[nova viper]

dont use "..."

like a spacebar

pls

[topaz cedar]

cope

[jolly sierra]

hey....i....neeedddd...help..to..seee....wha.t..to...cra.ft...next...

[nova viper]

[jolly sierra]

thank ..yu..ver.y....much........

[topaz cedar]

i,,,,n,,f,,u,,ri,,o,,,u,,,s,,,,,,,,,,,,b,,,,,o,,,o,,,t,,,,,s,,

[nova viper]

u should make carrier in standup

or something like that

[topaz cedar]

carrier...

[jolly sierra]

eve...nn...if......i.....h.aaave....slimy....boo.ts..at....450....???

[nova viper]

career*

[jolly sierra]

carry my standup pls

[topaz cedar]

are you even standing up if youre being carried smh

[jolly sierra]

look those are the cum boots

usually call them like that here

i have them already at 450 cuz i had to craft them for my rbg roster

i was kicked cuz they wanted a sub

and noticed 2 weeks later i was assa

[nova viper]

reroll to sub

king of rogue

[jolly sierra]

so my question now is

should i use the cum boots and craft 450 versa mastery shoulders or upgrade my 424 infurious and use 437 shoulderpads with versa haste instead?

[jolly sierra]

beh i was already replaced lol

btw there are hotfixes for today

just this is just the only thing for pvp

xd

[jolly bear]

first time getting this high on anything

I finally am getting the hang of it

[nova viper]

Maybe the current state of PVP is the right one that Blizzard has been coming to for 20 years

[jolly sierra]

cmon keep going

[jolly bear]

13 more sparks