yall sleeping on OL
#pvp
lucid citrus
OL?
spring bough
outlaw
lucid citrus
OL is fun af
jolly sierra
that fucking dig spell is busted af
spring bough
125 to go for this rival feels like forever its gonna take lol
jolly sierra
enh dmg is disgusting
wary spire
enh dmg is disgusting
Rogue feels the same but in a bad way. 
jolly sierra
Rogue feels the same but in a bad way. <:sucksman:1046546244413173760>
ended 2-4
cuz the fuckers had unhealable dmg
spring bough
94 to go till rival finally lol
closing in
4-2 against a boomy and lock not bad at all lol
jolly sierra
gratz
spring bough
aent gratz yet this probably gonna take more than a few ques at this rate lol
spring bough
so i dropped heavy hitter to get 2/2 CTO with GSW and dropped float for loaded dice and it feels real good lol
getting max RTB buffs every round
grand haven
how did you get 2 CTO without dropping GSW?
spring bough
dropping float like a butterfly and heavy hitter lol
jolly sierra
impossible
tribal badger
yes but it plays with tea
and tier
where u wanna bte on cd
maybe once u get 4set in pvp so u can bte on cd
last season with s1 tier u dropped gsw for cto
gsw just has synergy with new 4set
spring bough
did one solo que with it and ambush was in the 80s for double hits and pistol got a 67k crit lol
spring bough
gonna try 1/2 cto with heavy hitter and keep GSW
yeah i was getting ambush double procs in the 90s earlier
still have yet to cross the 100k in pvp with it lol
66 to go till rival inching there lol
jolly sierra
i die by fkn dampening w ret all times
spring bough
pain. hunter starts on evo after i do. evo throws up the flame wall. our healer on the other side and you just see evo fly thru breath flames and hunters goes 100% to 0 just like that
next round evo gets deleted by warrior lol
tawny kestrel
jolly sierra
im out for today
spring bough
damn them illusions look SICK
spring bough
the new duelist illusion
tawny kestrel
yeah it looks pretty sick
light estuary
did blood strife tokens get reset this week? or did they carryover from last week?
do you have a link to these slimy boots? what do they do?
tribal badger
healing is
incredably
not fun rn
like the changes to the pacing and the nerf to healers just
made healing soloq even more painful
spring bough
hard stuck at 1734 lmfao. keep getting this evoker every 30 minutes. he deletes people when hes off my team then gets deleted on my team >.>
then blames me every time lol
chrome schooner
you wait until you get one from vault so you can get 2p instantly instead of spending it now only to get it again in the vault and be sad
graceful ravine
same
lucid citrus
I was literally thinking about that just now
graceful ravine
they should give another at 2100 or something
spring bough
1 and done 😦
lucid citrus
sadly
lucid citrus
@chrome schooner you play sin?
jolly bear
hey is it a good idea to use my spark and a lesser crest of honor on my lariat?
jolly sierra
think im gonna go warrior in soloq before reset
to do something idk
poor ret was assblasted to death by r1
cuz i had the mmr from s1 elite
tribal badger
hey is it a good idea to use my spark and a lesser crest of honor on my lariat?
no
of all the possible embellishments to use this season, lariat is not gunna be one of them
its not even used in pve anymore it got nerfed
jolly bear
what is rogue taking as of rn?
jolly sierra
oh shit here we go again
jolly sierra
tbh i was watching dampening going faster than usual
dunno if it was the thrill of r1 lobbies or was for real
tribal badger
it really does tho
i mean the change to pacing was basicaly put in to slow down healing and make cc more effective to help counter the cc nerf
and soloq players ignore their healers
so healing feels garbo fr
jolly sierra
they will beg to bring rogues back
vague summit
is everyone playing outlaw
waxen meteor
When heal reduction goes high, late game is really unhealable
It’s not like healers are cced without trinket
It’s just dps >> hps
jolly sierra
sounds like warrior and assa will have a feast
tribal badger
if the match goes beyond 2m
and one team has an ms
that team wins
thats what healing is like rn
its like 1:30 vs arms
as soon as dampening ha sramped up that high u can literally smash heal ur fastest heal into them and hp bar will not move
its wild
I had someone sitting in my barrier, I radiance radiance pw:S penanced
and they died through it from 20% hp
hp bar just wouldnt move up
same vs demo honestly
jolly sierra
nah dude this season start is awful
they whined for ccs
now whine for dmg
also
i can say ww are fkn op for day 1
tribal badger
tbh
everyone is blasting rn
except rogue
if u dont cc peoples goes like all the big pp melee r doing 80k dps rn
to 1 target
WW, enhance, arms, dh (except its all game) dk
meanwhile I pop off with a proc chain in a kidney and hit a massive 50-60k dps
😏
some priest kept PIing me in the lobby i was in
such a waste
brother im spending half the game chasing healer to cc 
throw it on my partner
jolly sierra
that is how works this season tho
but im 100% sure will be tunings announced this week
tribal badger
honestly low key, in full gear
jolly sierra
season is fkn crazy
tribal badger
i think unholy is gunna be insanely toxic this season
the playstyle is so unfun to face
jolly sierra
for damp meta?
jolly sierra
ah fuck
tribal badger
guarenteed 40% hp hit
jolly sierra
yeah i recalled that shit
tribal badger
plus all their other damage
jolly sierra
fkn zombies are inmune
tribal badger
and its not gunna be out HP'd because its % hp
like i get it takes some timing
but its really not hard to setup
and its so constant
jolly sierra
here says the zombie hits by 20% not 40
jolly sierra
ah fuck
tribal badger
quite easy to get 2 to overlap
then u get to play ven diagram gaming
grip into center > stun
ig theres some skill to it but like
it feels very unfun to play against
because the only counterplay is pray the dks timing is bad, or los
u dont get to try to dodge it
jolly sierra
the trick in bfa with stuff like bike
which spawns to shot someone
was going to a pillar
and summoning it there
cuz it would explode instant
maybe will be similar
spring bough
ray of hope just crit a boomy for over 500k
tribal badger
ya idk ive had 2 dks in my lobby
spring bough
holy shit
tribal badger
just didnt feel fun to face
like whether or not the setup hit was not in my hands
and the zombies r just out constantly
hmm
maybe slam out lizard 1800 tomorrow, only managed to get 2 games in today
back to 30 minute queues
zzzz
i queued a bit on my disc but healer climbing rn is a pita
tribal badger
yeaaaa idk
i like to hit it for title but
unless they add some more 2handers to vendor
theres like, zero good elite skins this season
jolly sierra
look at this fkn shit
tribal badger
the dagger is alright. at leastit matches
jolly sierra
what is this
tribal badger
AHAHAHA RIGHT THE FUK
the bow is aight
but the rifle, i thought it was just because im a vulpera
so i swapped my hunter
blizzard trolling fr
jolly sierra
the only 2h
jolly sierra
in s1 u had a pole and an axe
tribal badger
like wtf blizz put no effort into elite weapos this season
jolly sierra
THIS FKN AXE
spring bough
yeah no swords is a bummer lol
tribal badger
i mean whats wild is
last seasons vendor had 2 full pages of weapons
this seasons has half a page
?
like the difference in amount of skins
tribal badger
maybe theyll add more
jolly sierra
hope so
tribal badger
i usually push 2400 for the pve gear tbh
lets me upgrade to 434 and my rng is garbage for raid gearing
jolly sierra
and not just a fkn flopped pennant
tribal badger
but this season feeling a bit sweaty
jolly sierra
like the fallen pp from season 1
tribal badger
especially since ive commited to using my sparks for raid instead of pvp so thats putting me abit behind
jolly sierra
OOF
tbh im not deciding into my sparks yet
with nothing
more than the cum boots i was forced to do
spring bough
1762 almost there one more 4-2 away lol
this is so hard today it feels like lol
avg wait time is like 35 min
jolly sierra
u are facing rank 1 tho
spring bough
might just keep pushing thru the weekend see where it takes me lol
quaint cedar
idk why but I tried switching to CtO and it feels like I'm doing way more damage
I dropped 2nd deeper strat and GSW
rotation feels more smooth too
narrow tangle
is sub better than assa now?
vague summit
Sub the play?
jolly sierra
can i at least win a shuffle w assa today?
just 1 is enough lol, just trying now
or no, lemme check my chest after all those rbgs
hmmm maybe 1 won't hurt
narrow tangle
saw some rotten +dm rogues doing great job
stiff coyote
Is the shadowflame enchant good in pvp?
raven trench
what we looking at for bis gear boys
sub rogue
4 set good or we going full mastery stacking again
waxen meteor
pretty good tho
There’s a new enchant?
jolly sierra
There’s a new enchant?
yeah is like fiery weapon, procs a lot
hits by 7k per proc and in 2 mins counted it like 150 times
waxen meteor
On weapon?
jolly sierra
yes
waxen meteor
Kkkk!
lucid citrus
Is that the enchant that cost 400k on AH or the pvp enchant?
spring bough
slapped a r2 shadowflame enchant on my MH and its doing 2x frozen dmg lol
jolly sierra
yeah that one
spring bough
r2 is 25k rn not bad
lucid citrus
should i buy a mh for outlaw?
waxen meteor
Anyone got the cloak?
light estuary
nvm its in my bags
how do we get free tier? is this a quest?
light estuary
nice ty!
graceful ravine
you get a token to turn in
light estuary
do you get the pick the slot?
graceful ravine
i think so
jolly sierra
i can reach a conclusion w assa
i think i need the cloak
lol
or maybe change my 395 ilvl bracers so i don't die that fast
jolly sierra
i got one with 1700 mmr in my rog 1st, was the surv and the dwarf
damn hurted a lot
but when i got a wizard lobby think become better
but tbh
im capping and leaving for this week
light estuary
yall buying conquest dagger this week?
jolly sierra
ye
jolly sierra
u wanted to go outlaw?
waxen meteor
not sure, but the first 4 solo are hard
valid notch
First time trying to get serious in pvp, does solo shuffle really take 15 mins to queue as outlaw?
waxen meteor
think dps queue is normally around 20-30 mins
I kinda realized the dmg issue even on new map
but didn't realize it's that bad
it's like you see every other guy hit the creep 2-3 second
me - 15
jolly sierra
w assa got positive score at 2nd shuffle
with warrior the same
w ret i don't have any yet cuz i started with 1k9 mmr
i wanna go monk but i lack 1 ilvl lol
jolly sierra
nice
waxen meteor
DMG wise, still like this lol
it's not high rating, so i was able to dodge a lot of casts by position
jolly sierra
how did u saved urself from BM?
waxen meteor
well when you have lock as teammate
at least 2 rounds you are free
Killed ret one round, he died with his own physical protection
jolly sierra
XD
waxen meteor
he lasted quite a while
but i was able to cheapshot + gauge healer
lock closed him
jolly sierra
gouge is the key tho
nova viper
simple crest
what is the best way to shift shards for wild arcana? got a no life pally here with so many buffs he just one shots everyone who shows up.
jolly sierra
kill the elementals and run away
simple crest
i cant, he has like 500% ms and is just running around killing them as they spawn.
ive gotten 2 in 5 mins
jolly sierra
run inverse to his direction
simple crest
i guess killing 4 has pissed him off, he's now running around spamming hammers lol
potent pivot
4 set good or we going full mastery stacking again
Think 4 set is good this season
jolly sierra
how did u ended in that round?
waxen meteor
how did u ended in that round?
killed lock
DK is a literally doing nothing different than zug zug guy
jolly sierra
xd
agile leaf
Hi what is the difference between the trophy of conquest's?
jolly sierra
the stuff than allows to craft
agile leaf
like these 3 appear to be the same thing
harsh steppe
is this true? no weekly charge or anything?
for tier set*
wintry dew
You get 1 HC / 450pvp ilevel free tier piece from getting to those milestones (whichever you get first)
After that is vault / raid stuff
And in 6 weeks (?) Catalyst
simple crest
i love losing cause of the damn stealth bug they refuse to fix
harsh steppe
ohhhh so we can still do catalyst justa fter a few weeks ok ty
wintry dew
Best way to improve your odds @harsh steppe is to fill out the 3 pvp vaults
wintry dew
i love losing cause of the damn stealth bug they refuse to fix
Don't you love getting out of stealth randomly
harsh steppe
Oh ok what's hc mean?
jolly sierra
habbo club
wintry dew
LOL
harsh steppe
ahh ok tysm
jolly sierra
guys i'll do something stupid
i'll craft a pve cloak w pvp ilvl
with my monk which needs enduring
i will tell u if worth the try
harsh steppe
and we do symbols > kidney now right? instead of right after
lavish idol
Hey guys, what are people taking from the quest?
Tempted to take the greater purely as it costs more conquest
jolly sierra
What does the cloak does?
cloak autoabsorbs like 100k hp after dropping to 30% hp
harsh steppe
also is this ok for 2 set? only 1 of the top 4 that had rotten, which i believe is needed for 2 set right
tawny kestrel
Hey guys, what are people taking from the quest?
you could just take both
jolly sierra
hope this shit is any good
i'll leave the order done and go to sleep
btw, monk is good in arena atm
i was the lowest geared and in 1 round just one shotted a guy
wintry dew
I'm having trouble playing assa but that's because a) I'm bad, b) i can't get any healers so i end up queuing with random people and c) holy damn there are some specs i can't really do shit against them
jolly sierra
classic
alright did the order
im going to sleep
what a chaotic day, my bathroom got inundated
fuck it, cya
ah look, they will have a lego after all
light estuary
just got 1600, how do i get my free tier now?
tawny kestrel
you got an item in your bags called draconic mark of mastery
tawny kestrel
u go to a vendor and u can pick any item u want
just make sure if u want a pvp item that u buy the one that has pvp scaling on it
raven trench
Think 4 set is good this season
nice
light estuary
just make sure if u want a pvp item that u buy the one that has pvp scaling on i...
would it be best to wait until tuesday's vault before i pick a piece? that way higher chance of 2piece?
tawny kestrel
yeah for sure
agile leaf
first thing to buy with conquest be the dagger?
harsh steppe
how can i add rotten/
harsh steppe
first thing to buy with conquest be the dagger?
yah or conq ring
since you can't have 2 rings w/ the right stats you need, i got the conq ring first so i have all right stats; but im getting dagger next
wintry dew
Wouldn't dagger be your best upgrade?
Damage wise
By what i would say miles
Because we can get pretty much bis weapons week 1
wintry dew
My boy xD...
I feel like you are too impulsive sometimes, even when giving advices to others xD
harsh steppe
yah i need to work on that
wise breach
So have we decided which embellishments seem to be best? I've been testing Gathering Storm and it's utter garbage against everything except frost mage
Will probably try Shadowflame Tempered Patch next week
languid mirage
Am I losing too much damage not getting echoing reprimand?
I already have too much stuff to follow on screen, having to use finisher on the exact combo point is too much for my 2 brain cells
potent pivot
how can i add rotten/
You drop DB and ST I think
potent pivot
Am I losing too much damage not getting echoing reprimand?
It’s pretty strong yeah
potent pivot
first thing to buy with conquest be the dagger?
Ye
surreal barn
Am I losing too much damage not getting echoing reprimand?
It’s good. I don’t see many take it with flag build but you’d still have an extra button
wicked tide
According to kalvish and nahj once you get tier piece and all the beta boys go orc 7 points >echoing because . A -you get flooded more combo points with double rotten , and B - it’s an extra global you have to fit into your burst which your really not gonna have time for VS orcs
radiant glen
Am I losing too much damage not getting echoing reprimand?
assuming ur talking about assa bc name color, yes
its a lot of dmg
spice harness
anyone know if shadow-flamee embellishment does any dmg in pvp ?
odd mortar
I was thinking about waiting for vault before buying the dagger, are y’all buying conq dagger straight away?
I went honor dagger/honor mace off hand btw to start, for sub
And yeah I’m curious to if we do any crafted gear this season, didn’t see anything on YouTube. I have full honor gear with the exception of wrist belt I think? I went wpvp gear for those.
And double mastery rings, using last season ring
languid mirage
assuming ur talking about assa bc name color, yes
Forgot to mention it, I'm gonna try sub this season
wintry dew
As assa I went conq dagger + wpvp dagger for 450/447 weapons
So i don't have to worry about them for the rest of the season
odd mortar
I didn’t play my rogue much last season, I tried rogue for the first time since TBC and played assa. I am really enjoying sub even with people saying it’s not strong.
wintry dew
But it is
odd mortar
That’s how I feel lol
But that’s why I got all the questions lol, usually I can find a YouTube guide but it’s super early in the season
wintry dew
Afaik rn rogues DMG isn't topping charts whatsoeverz especially in shuffle,
So we are kinda cc bots
And sub is perfect for that while doing good burst
odd mortar
I won my first couple rounds as sub rogue in YEARS yesterday off blinds and smoke bombs, gouges..
wintry dew
Double vanish
odd mortar
Yeah it’s pretty cool
wintry dew
Meanwhile I'm bad at pvp sub so I'll force my way into 1800 again as assa
While complaining the whole way
harsh steppe
can't wait
odd mortar
Might try outlaw when I have extra for swords or something, and assa later on
harsh steppe
yah i might try outlaw at some point too
someone tag me when outlaw goes meta please
wintry dew
Was wondering if i want to go for 2.1 this season again for the illusion, but idk, i did it s1 but i felt like it was more luck than skill
harsh steppe
r1 or bust
harsh steppe
it's okay to lose your sanity, look at me!
wintry dew
It isn't when you have a wife that will murder you if you punch the table
harsh steppe
ohhhhh ahahaha
wintry dew
And man i love to punch the table
Instant stress relief
Pvp is the only aspect of the game that makes me go full apeshit
odd mortar
LOL
wintry dew
Not even wiping because of monkeys gets me that mad
odd mortar
I literally almost put a whole through my monitor
I only pvp no pve, may try it this season though
harsh steppe
i'm def doing pve this season too, this new gear system is hype once you adapt
wintry dew
Tbf i also hate m+ and only did +20s because my friends wanted the portals so they can show their grandchildren that once a day, they can return to a lost dungeon and farm a mount.
Fuck i actually only like raiding. And i don't even raid mythic
odd mortar
So you think I should wait for vault before buying anything? lol I’ve never done m+ my brother wants too though
wintry dew
Someone press the casual button
harsh steppe
Fuck i actually only like raiding. And i don't even raid mythic
why? im still new to pve but it seems like it'd be harder
hell no crumb buy gear asap
the chances of you getting the item you are gonna purchase are so low anyways
wintry dew
And
If you get 3 vaults, you surely will have something new
Hopefully a big conquest piece
So you don't have to waste buying it
harsh steppe
so why are we wearing a mace nowadays in offhand
wintry dew
Mastery
Sub doesn't need 2 daggers
And since conq dagger is crit and wpvp is haste, you can just get a offhand that has mastery
harsh steppe
right i know it's a stat stick, but wouldn't a wpvp dagger instead of mace be better like last season?
wintry dew
Wpvp dagger was mastery
And i don't even know if it is the mace that has mastery, but definitely one of the one handed
harsh steppe
i saw one r1 with a sword... can i do that instead?
wintry dew
Dagger sword?
naive plank
guys how is sub/sin in 10.1 worth resubscribing?
wintry dew
You can do whatever really,
wintry dew
guys how is sub/sin in 10.1 worth resubscribing?
How high do you wanna reach?
harsh steppe
okay sweet tyty
what would be the best sword in your opinion
wintry dew
okay sweet tyty
what would be the best sword in your opinion
One that has mastery xD
Sub/assa want lots of mastery
naive plank
How high do you wanna reach?
I want to be able to enjoy the game, and be able to not get evaporated by every other class that has everything better than me
specially dmg 😄
harsh steppe
so conq sword, ok ty
harsh steppe
I want to be able to enjoy the game, and be able to not get evaporated by every ...
define enjoy the game
wintry dew
I want to be able to enjoy the game, and be able to not get evaporated by every ...
Does that translate in casual 1400 rating or?
naive plank
I don't have the time to play competitive, so I'm doing the occasional arena/mythic+ and BGs
that's it
harsh steppe
yes resub for sure
wintry dew
Hm
naive plank
I'm don't have the time, patience or will to aim for 3k rating or something
harsh steppe
all specs are viable rn anyways, so you can play your fav
wintry dew
You sure you want to play rogue or anything with big numbers would suffice?
harsh steppe
i used to main mm hunter, they are super fun & easy
naive plank
You sure you want to play rogue or anything with big numbers would suffice?
I play my rogue since vanilla, so Id say I'm sure
wintry dew
Aight that makes two of us (tbc tho)
Well rogue is always.... Good.
They gutted rmp in arenas recently
naive plank
but just before my sub expired I leveled my DH, and I'm amazed how little buttons I have to push compared to the rogue
wintry dew
Due to cc nerfs
wintry dew
We aren't warriors
Nor ret paladins
But we do our job
Also depends on how well you press your abilities
naive plank
so we are still forced to used SD 6-8 seconds window and then I can wet noodle slap them
naive plank
this sums it up pretty nicely, yea
wintry dew
For casual pvp rogue is okay
scenic raft
can you go mastery as outlaw in pvp?
spring bough
CC feels so stupid now i just get CCed into oblivion
tawny kestrel
mastery definitely isnt awful for outlaw
perfectly fine to go for mastery gear then u can play all 3 specs
strong holly
I guess yeah, if you want to try all three
Idk the other two are way ahead of Outlaw anyway feels like. I've been struggling with it.
spring bough
i think in the outlaw faq it gives more weight to mastery over haste. could always cop the bracers / belt from the bloody token gear for a lil mastery
might use those and upgrade them to 447 over the next couple weeks focus on bigger pieces
tawny kestrel
haste is more or less a dead stat for outlaw this expansion
and crit got nerfed in pvp so
mastery did get some changes that made it better in dragonflight as opposed to other expansions
spring bough
i swapped all my gems from the higher crit / vers to the higher vers / crit combo lol
tawny kestrel
ye definitely worth
spring bough
some games feel real good. others? lmao its like CCed into oblivion and casters just popping off on you and its over
tawny kestrel
raz, have you done some rogue arena this season already?
ye i played outlaw in shuffle to 2.1
nothing else
busy w pve
minor cape
do you think law is best spec right now?
tawny kestrel
outlaw feels good but rogue in shuffle seems a bit eh in general
not as op as it was prior to 10.0.7 anyway
harsh steppe
way better
tawny kestrel
sub is quite good
waxen meteor
you really need your teammate to be on same page for sub
spice harness
anyone know if shadow-flame embellishment does any decent damage in pvp ?
waxen meteor
anyone know if shadow-flame embellishment does any decent damage in pvp ?
think panda said it's very good
spring bough
anyone know if shadow-flame embellishment does any decent damage in pvp ?
i put shadowflame r2 on my MH and it is doing about 3% of my dmg and frozen r3 on my OH is doing around 1.5%
spice harness
i put shadowflame r2 on my MH and it is doing about 3% of my dmg and frozen r3 o...
I mean embellishment thingy not enchant
https://prnt.sc/Bt8Vz3DfewQf this one
spring bough
not too sure about that one. if its anything like the enchant should be decent
valid notch
I just seem to tickle people as an outlaw I guess I really have to learn my rotation... I just started pvp and I'm having a terrible time
valid notch
I dunno, I suck and just started pvp but I don't feel I can pressure
crimson basalt
Rogue can’t pressure
Only thing rogue can do is pray to god
They can get a mage or someone to do dmg
valid notch
I guess I'll just learn to control with some cc's
do i sap kill target at the start?
crimson basalt
I feel like at minimum
Ret should be a
At 1800 tho
1800 don’t rly mean anything
I mean ig
But even then it’s filled with fucking locks
I hate it
So much
Serebad
I love that dude
jolly sierra
think panda said it's very good
no, i said the ENCHANT was good
the embelishment is crap tbh
but can say the cum boots are still very good even 50% nerfed
untold remnant
but can say the cum boots are still very good even 50% nerfed
Where do you see 50% nerfed?
Just played a frost mage/fire mage/survival hunter shuffle and went 1-5. Survival hunter was randomly dying when he was on my team. And the frost just jeeted the rest. Was expecting to do better in that lobby, but mages just don't die
vague summit
Anyone else thinking of switching off form rogue this season ?
wintry dew
Many did during ret prime
valid notch
So as someone new to rated pvp I shouldn't try and learn with an outlaw rogue?
wintry dew
Why not
valid notch
I'm trying it feels terrible, I guess I haven't planned out my keybinds properly and still need to get used to them
spring bough
these lobbies are all over the place today
valid notch
Been looking up vids on opener rotations on outlaw but couldn't find any
vague summit
Pvp is a deep learning curve
valid notch
Will enchanting my honor gear make a difference right now?
wintry dew
But every spec is viable
vague summit
Give your self time to learn and how to react to things
wintry dew
Some more than others
valid notch
I did switch from crit to mastery as what was discussed above
vague summit
Sure if you have the gold
wintry dew
Will enchanting my honor gear make a difference right now?
It's super minor
valid notch
cool
wintry dew
It's a small bump
valid notch
There's just so many things to track, I'm taking skillcapped's template for alot of things (I did decrease the scaling for my own taste)
wintry dew
I've been pvping since tbc, am i glad player? Fuck no, just a 1800-2000 player, but since I've been playing for so long i tried out all the specs in the game so i have a general idea on what they can do
valid notch
I'm 3-12 in SS with 288 rating 
Oh yeah, my aim is to just at least be at a point where I'm at the average
spring bough
i hit high 2300s last season and i cant get past 1760 the last two days lol
its ridic
jolly sierra
Where do you see 50% nerfed?
in recount comparing with pre reset
jolly sierra
this week is the worst to climb tbh
i faced r1 with my ret cuz its mmr and was fucking hell
however w monk, rog and warr get the daily honor at 2nd match
wintry dew
I had the worst time doing 2s yesterday aswell
Barely hit 1k
Then a Miraculous priest appeared and it went way better
harsh steppe
@minor cape @potent pivot hmm what next? i don't wanna lose st
tawny kestrel
i hit high 2300s last season and i cant get past 1760 the last two days lol
how can u expect to hit the same rating when highest rating last season was 3.6k
right now the highest players are 2.3
radiant anvil
up to you
well maybe that thing u used was for 3v
mine is for 2v
if it was for 3v
harsh steppe
how can i get closer to rotten?
radiant anvil
the rupture to 2 targets is better
oh
you want to play rotten
BUQAAWulQAmRd/c4Iy2r7VOUFAAAJlEAAAAAAABSSikISikkgAQSkkkEHgkk0AJkEIJEAAAA
this is mine for rotten
crimson basalt
Anyone else thinking of switching off form rogue this season ?
Yeah me
harsh steppe
crimson basalt
This doesn’t offer big burst like the other one does
crimson basalt
how can i get closer to rotten?
But you need flag
harsh steppe
i don't wanna lose st =/
crimson basalt
St?
harsh steppe
secret tec
crimson basalt
You keep that
crimson basalt
What you run for big dmg which lots of rogue r gonna run for now
And run rotten later when they get tier pieve
trim arch
in that case, what two should i take off to keep st
I can take off 1 point from +2sec SD and take off chance double attack
crimson basalt
Is
radiant anvil
i think st
is better to keep it
thats why i dont play rotten
in 2v as suti you should play with other dps like mage
radiant anvil
with cloaked shadows you hot 2 resets
crimson basalt
The other build will still be good and wanted
Because of tier set
But for now ran that
harsh steppe
don't i need rotten as sub in 10.1 w/ the two set
crimson basalt
Because, eviscerate hits hard
crimson basalt
Rotten would be big with tier set
light estuary
how do yall feel about using ER with shadowdust/rotten/secret tech build?
spring bough
every game ive played today too has had almost always one 0-6 healer its been real fun lol
crimson basalt
how do yall feel about using ER with shadowdust/rotten/secret tech build?
Er?
crimson basalt
every game ive played today too has had almost always one 0-6 healer its been re...
Been their dw homie rogues have to play out of their mind :/
harsh steppe
ok just need one more for dm, any tips
trim arch
I think ER would be better then 7 combo points in main tree
crimson basalt
I think ER would be better then 7 combo points in main tree
Negative
It’s to much buttons to press just for dmg
Echoing is good so is flag
harsh steppe
no er is a core part of the rotation
trim arch
ok just need one more for dm, any tips
harsh steppe
perfect tysm ❤️
minor cape
no macab
crimson basalt
minor cape
wassup w that
harsh steppe
trim arch
But that build helps you hit 170k evis
I don’t think you need flag for this
crimson basalt
I don’t think you need flag for this
Try with echo
trim arch
Evil hit 127 I hit ~115k with build I stole from pikaboo with ER tallent
crimson basalt
Evil hit 127 I hit ~115k with build I stole from pikaboo with ER tallent
Toss the build over
tawny kestrel
why would u remove weaponmaster when u play rotten??
trim arch
Anyway I would test
minor cape
why would u remove weaponmaster when u play rotten??
fax
better remove the shadowstep thing
crimson basalt
why would u remove weaponmaster when u play rotten??
Proc chances
minor cape
cause you will be fine with cdr
tawny kestrel
ye quick decisions can go if u can afford the point
def go weaponmaster over quick decisions
minor cape
rotten without weaponmaster is missing a lot of dam
light estuary
any1 else holding their conquest pts this week? im thinking of just saving it
minor cape
anyways, how tf did he get 170k evis
is it like macabre stacks with cold blooded evis?
harsh steppe
trim arch
Toss the build over
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crimson basalt
is it like macabre stacks with cold blooded evis?
That’s what I’m tryna figure out, I feel like it’s
crimson basalt
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Send me picture
minor cape
i dont like this build at all
harsh steppe
?
minor cape
vigor is not needed, better go down that subterfuge path
and get the reduced sprint cd
with rotten its very good
you dont really need veiltouch too here
crimson basalt
Getting rid of some mobility won’t hurt as we are very mobile
minor cape
and gloomblade
but gloomblade is a preference
i feel like shield is important in this build as you will be vanishing and going back in
harsh steppe
i don't even use gloomblade
harsh steppe
how can i get subterfuge w/o losing er
minor cape
on dance
harsh steppe
or cb
crimson basalt
minor cape
yes.
crimson basalt
The x2 left side
crimson basalt
i feel like shield is important in this build as you will be vanishing and going...
The shield
Is not good
minor cape
i think in rotten it is, in brew not really
minor cape
you get healed? That makes sense
harsh steppe
ok i have room for putting in one?
crimson basalt
It’s a shield
minor cape
yes, i mean
crimson basalt
It’s gone when you leave vanish
crimson basalt
And it’s not that great at all, it’s just troll imo
harsh steppe
imma go prey on the weak
minor cape
yes
crimson basalt
You could go for dmg, because that 2 seconds just doesn’t do ANYTHING
minor cape
im ditching it
minor cape
ok i have room for putting in one?
prey
remove that one point below your anti healing poison
and put it into
sprint
minor cape
You could go for dmg, because that 2 seconds just doesn’t do ANYTHING
dude ill be testing it in like 15 mins
harsh steppe
harsh steppe
works for me thanks all so much for your help ❤️
crimson basalt
dude ill be testing it in like 15 mins
Alr, and I looked it up, it’s 6 seconds in vanish
minor cape
better swap that cheat death for elusive
crimson basalt
But, it’s gone when you open
spring bough
is everyone else with me on the CC feels like its even more than last season? so much for nerfs lmfao
jolly sierra
you can officially kick from this chat after this honestlt
disarm the mage
spring bough
its like we lost CC and everyone else gained CC. got feared for like 8 seconds than another 3 second fear such a GG after that
waxen meteor
Anyone else thinking of switching off form rogue this season ?
So far I did Sub/BM/DH/Ret/Priest solo, all at roughly 1.8 range.
I have to say Sub is most challenging one, it feels like I had to do a whole lot more to achieve similar goal. but surely rogue is our passion
jolly sierra
feels like is even more because dampening is hell faster
minor cape
But, it’s gone when you open
why does it work...
waxen meteor
its like we lost CC and everyone else gained CC. got feared for like 8 seconds t...
Undead faction change on discount lol
spring bough
undead still have will of forsaken? and does it work in pvp and not nerf? lol
waxen meteor
it works
jolly sierra
it share cd w trink tho
waxen meteor
i am not even trolling
waxen meteor
at this season, i think undead can actually work better than orc
it's only 30s share cd with trinket
minor cape
@crimson basalt - i just vanished and attacked the dummy and the buff was still on me
waxen meteor
but some classes that are not heavily stuned (killed)
jolly sierra
fkn shitty spell
minor cape
Tarny, do you know smth about that vanish shield?
crimson basalt
<@869817381525020713> - i just vanished and attacked the dummy and the buff was...
?
Show me a ss
waxen meteor
Tarny, do you know smth about that vanish shield?
what do i need to know about it sir
minor cape
does vanish shield disappear when you exit vanish
vague summit
@waxen meteor I definitely feel the passion for rogue ! Getting duelist I. Solo feels like a ton of work
spring bough
bro how do you even see anything lol
waxen meteor
<@446428215070949383> I definitely feel the passion for rogue ! Getting duelist ...
i feel i am constantly using my brain to find who to cc at when and where
jolly sierra
or use the curtain dunno
waxen meteor
where when i do BM/DH/Ret etc.
I hardly need to pay any of that attention
zug zug zug win
ok, with some small cc and anti cc
minor cape
or use the curtain dunno
i have them on the way.... i moved to a new appartment in winter and then spring gave me this surprise xd
im not a psycho i dont play like this i just needed to do some urgent testing
xd
jolly sierra
xdd
jolly sierra
i have them on the way.... i moved to a new appartment in winter and then spring...
pick a cat and make it give u more darkness
nah just kidding
maybe u need to move the desktop to another place in the apartment
minor cape
waiting for my sheets to arrive so i can get freaky inside
with my hand
what?
nothing.
jolly sierra
ª
graceful ravine
close one @pearl warren ❤️
minor cape
whats the off weapon you guys use?
crimson basalt
2 secs tho
jolly sierra
think u can use the mastery sword
valid notch
Is assassination the easiest to learn in ss? I felt like a wet noodle while playing my outlaw. It feels I can go more often with the cd reductions but my go doesn’t feel impactful
jolly sierra
in general it is but is stlll a torture in day 3
valid notch
Am I encountering high rated people? I’m new so I’m at like 6-18 right now on ss 😂
copper maple
How do you process all the information you get on the screen my man?
minor cape
How do you process all the information you get on the screen my man?
told ya dudes im not playing like this 😤
valid notch
Any good resources on outlaw pvp? I only see assassination and sub
valid notch
🙏
jolly sierra
he tried to teach me outlaw but i was so bad with the exccesive random combo points gaining than i went crazy and dropped it
w assa that doesnt happens at least
delet that, we cant LFG here
valid notch
Thanks for the tips, I’ll check the site
will do
Thanks for the heads up, should’ve read the rules
spring bough
im about to just delete my character at this point lmao
its like oh about to win this lobby oh wait CC into oblivion dragon flys over u and ur dead
some rounds damage is there others its not lol
spring bough
idek how to outlaw right now. been on like 4 diff variations of talents one times goes great next game not so much lol
lucid citrus
Change your sword mog lol
lucid citrus
Can’t believe they are mocking us with that dagger
potent pivot
Pog
minor cape
balance tuning: rog nerfed
spring bough
"1% damage increase, we have done our job here" inc troll changes lol
prob gonna be months before 10.15
simple dew
Phew, cdc just finally announced Covid 19 pandemic is officially over, that means I managed to make it through the whole demic without taking that risky vaxx, especially given the surfacing news of adverse effects for specifically young men
lucid citrus
What?
simple dew
@lucid citrus the cdc officially declared the pandemic to be over
And I’m just thankful I stuck to my guns and didn’t let anyone else decide for me when it came to what I injected into my body especially since I was hesitant for valid reasons, and now that side effects are coming out specifically for young men, I’m just glad I have my best interest in mind always
jolly sierra
"assa buffed by +10% damage in all abilities. doesn't apply for pvp combat"
quaint cedar
maybe they will make killing spree not be a total noodle ability
I hope they fix our class tree
we can barely take any utility talents because we have to go all in on damage
and even then rogue damage is still subpar compared to other classes...
jolly sierra
which talent were u picking for rooting comps?
i went nuts and used death from above to move lol
quaint cedar
death from above breaks roots?
jolly sierra
no, but makes u inmune to ccs if u use it before
also moves you where the enemy is exactly, even if he runs away to the other extreme of the map
wary spire
Class balancing as a patch feature is such a meme btw. ~_~
jolly sierra
plus i love the backflip lol
quaint cedar
as outlaw I use killing spree to break roots because that's all that dogwater ability is good for
potent pivot
Class balancing as a patch feature is such a meme btw. ~_~
We pray for actual talent changes
light estuary
Did they mention mages rogues and holy paladin because they think we op? 🤔
waxen meteor
i was in 1k8 lobbies w rog
My second bm game, it’s war/bm/sin/ret, sin dies 3 games in a row and rage quit…
quaint cedar
well pve mages have been complaining a lot about their class
they don't like the class tree, and each spec has design problems that make it feel bad to play
jolly sierra
My second bm game, it’s war/bm/sin/ret, sin dies 3 games in a row and rage quit…
still a fkn tragedy, but what will u do? lol
waxen meteor
Honestly my game with sin had great chance
quaint cedar
and holy paladin is just awful so
potent pivot
Did they mention mages rogues and holy paladin because they think we op? 🤔
Nah mostly because those players complain about talents etc
waxen meteor
Priest swapped HP with ret, if he stays with ret we won
jolly sierra
sin is good, just lacks the survivability tho
waxen meteor
But he swapped to priest after 5 seconds of swap
If he swap immediately we could probably close as well
jolly sierra
so ill test sporecloak today and tell u how is going
waxen meteor
They were totally dying
waxen meteor
so ill test sporecloak today and tell u how is going
But how do you go 450
wary spire
sin is good, just lacks the survivability tho
Yep. No second vanish, no hook, no dance for cs stun.
waxen meteor
bought a trophy
jolly sierra
Yep. No second vanish, no hook, no dance for cs stun.
hook is shit
glad we have double shadowstep
wary spire
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
quaint cedar
hook is great what are talking about?
jolly sierra
daga kotowaru
quaint cedar
way longer range than step and doesn't require a target or LoS
potent pivot
sometimes it doesnt drags u away
Thought they fixed that
potent pivot
potent pivot
Yeah it only happens when terrain is in the way of the destination
waxen meteor
If the cloak works well it could be a great investment for conquest
quaint cedar
yup
waxen meteor
How much is the cloak upgrade material
quaint cedar
arena terrain is flat so I haven't experienced the bug there in a long time
it can happen in BGs though
graceful ravine
i just got humbled with a 0-6 on my dh
need to reevaluate my life
step outside and touch some grass
spring bough
if they could give us a burst talent that would be HOT
talking like 100k plus crit talent like all these other classes have
quaint cedar
we already have one
it's called killing spree
they just forgot the part where it does damage
spring bough
40k big burst lol