pvp

[jolly sierra]

hmm

we are timegated w conq again tho

so maybe u must get the dagger from conq 1st

[lyric onyx]

imma buy the dagger anyway for assass

[jolly sierra]

and the malicia sword second

[minor cape]

isnt that what you always do

[jolly sierra]

nope

in s1 i did a mastery dagger for MH

[minor cape]

get conq weapon for ilvl

[jolly sierra]

lol

spent the shit in rings

what a dumbass

[lyric onyx]

oof

[minor cape]

same but i didnt know mh ilvl is bis

[lyric onyx]

its not for ilvl its for the weapon damage

[minor cape]

🤔

[jolly sierra]

mh always the highest ilvl one

[minor cape]

but weapon damage is in ilvl

no?

[jolly sierra]

ur damage calculates the most from there

[lyric onyx]

yeah true

but you know what i mean

[jolly sierra]

in assa think we will use malicia dagger in OH cuz has haste, its better than crit

even more now

[lyric onyx]

we're not simply buying it because "higher ilvl"... its because it has higher wep dmg

[minor cape]

y

isnt mastery better than haste

tho

on assa

[lyric onyx]

it is but theres not vers/mas daggers

[jolly sierra]

we don't have mastery versa daggers in s2

XD

[minor cape]

wait

but how d y know

there is no honor vendor yet?

[jolly sierra]

cuz i have psychic powers

[minor cape]

or it was like that on ptr

[jolly sierra]

and honor daggers are always crit versa

[minor cape]

shit

🥹

sub offhand axe meta???????

[jolly sierra]

sub offhand sword meta

[minor cape]

i dont mind tho

[lyric onyx]

think i have pre honor/conq vendor bis for sub now

[minor cape]

less er sec tech ruins by shadow tech

[jolly sierra]

u are good like that

im buying all the honor gear to replace tier for next reset

[minor cape]

lariat and ring still good?

[jolly sierra]

just got bracers, belt, wep and cloak tbh

[lyric onyx]

i mean theyre 421 now instead of 418

and i aint crafting anything to replace em

[minor cape]

btw whats the new crafting material?

[lyric onyx]

not yet anyway

[minor cape]

its those blue thinfs

?

[lyric onyx]

theres no primal chaos equivilent if thats what you mean

[minor cape]

good

[lyric onyx]

its just a case of having a spark and the mats now

ye very good

[minor cape]

you can upgrade those now?

right?

[lyric onyx]

i could

but you cant get the lesser trophy of conq yet

to add pvp scaling

[jolly sierra]

for the cum gear i got a spark of ingenuity to craft a bracers for 398

and patch w toxic

sacrified some ilvl, but worth it

but as sly said

maybe will be nerfed

so unless u don't get forced, don't do that

[lyric onyx]

will be interesting to see what 2 embellishments people go for

theres some really solid options

lariat wont be good at start of season i think thatll scale better towards the end

[potent pivot]

Personally I think lariat is pretty dead

[lyric onyx]

i only have it coz its what i rocked for season 1

[potent pivot]

Yeah

[jolly sierra]

its a 418

[potent pivot]

Stat scaling is a meme these days

[jolly sierra]

pretty understandable

[potent pivot]

Isn’t really how things work anymore

[lyric onyx]

421 now

they changed conc primal to go to 421

[jolly sierra]

better

[lyric onyx]

if slimy boots stay good

[potent pivot]

Btw

[lyric onyx]

will be a hard choice between slimy or infurious boots

for sub at least

[potent pivot]

Did you test the boots as assa

With 4p equipped

[jolly sierra]

i tested them in live

check the chat above

[potent pivot]

I meant on PTR last night

[jolly sierra]

tested them w rated arena

[jolly sierra]

yeah they are pretty good

[potent pivot]

But did u have assa 4p equipped

When you tested em on PTR

[tawny kestrel]

pretty sure assa 4 set is changed

only class abilities get increased

so boots wont

[potent pivot]

Not yet

Afaik that hasn’t hit PTR yet, could be wrong though

Was talking with fuu about it earlier

[tawny kestrel]

ok

[jolly sierra]

tested them in live vs ptr

and hit more in retail

[potent pivot]

Sick

[lyric onyx]

how many trophys of strife does weekly give

i forgor

[potent pivot]

Usually like 7 or 8

Idr either

[pale storm]

8

[lyric onyx]

nice so can upgrade OH wep week 1

[jolly sierra]

good idea

will do the same tho

im using it for MH meanwhile

cuz it has more ilvl

[surreal barn]

After I use trophies on sword I bet they’ll add that dagger in

[jolly sierra]

they already added a dagger

but is intended for assa tho

haste/versa

[surreal barn]

Oh forreal

[chrome schooner]

even assa wants mastery

[surreal barn]

Staying w sword then

[jolly sierra]

ofc we want mastery

but there are not any s2 pvp vers mastery dagger

[surreal barn]

Time to dust off the felsteel longblade xmog

[jolly sierra]

the only i've checked has mastery for s2 is the freehold one

[light estuary]

where do we get the sparks of life weekly quest?

[jolly sierra]

one from zaralek

other one from both zaralek or malicia

ofc go for malicia

[light estuary]

where is Malicia at?

oh i think i found her but she doesnt have the quest for me hmm

[tribal badger]

what quest

[jolly sierra]

are the regular ones

the rated or the unrated

that awards the second shard u want

[light estuary]

what's the name of the quest that Malicia gives? im not sure but i dont see it available from her and i dont think i see it in the quest log

[tribal badger]

what quest is she supposed to give

[scarlet shell]

proving in X

proving in war, proving in solo etc

i think it should be war (epic bgs) this week

[light estuary]

oh that figures, i already did that. What does that weekly reward again? is that the 2 trophies?

[light estuary]

ty

[lyric onyx]

whats in the box

[scarlet shell]

literal rubbish.

and flavor items

[jolly sierra]

just shit

some whelp shadowcrests and the shard tho

[lyric onyx]

so its basically just the new version of the boxes we get from doing any pvp

[jolly sierra]

yeah

she hoard garbage

[fading blade]

have u tested any other embellishments since ive been afk

[jolly sierra]

the shadowflame patch

is not too good tho

[fading blade]

i know u trioed slimy boots

what about toxic ones

that h eal too

[potent pivot]

the heal procs take place of dmg procs

[fading blade]

oh jk ignore what i said

boots and cloak ez

[jolly sierra]

cum boots

[vocal surge]

there will be Wheel

Chair

[potent pivot]

dunno if boots are worth running without toxic patch

[fading blade]

precog it is

[potent pivot]

lol

[fading blade]

So you need 2 sparks to make the boots really pop off?

[potent pivot]

2 embellishments

[jolly sierra]

i used a spark of ingenuity for the patch

with a bracers, but crafted them raw from 398

[austere thorn]

Where do i even place the trophy of conquest in the crafting thing?

[jolly sierra]

optional reagents

[austere thorn]

doesnt give me the option

nvm im dumb sorry

I was about to write a wall of text whining about all this unnecessary convoluted crap we have to do when they could just cod mail us the pvp stuff

[jolly sierra]

tf means this

[woven jolt]

how did you play that, good tm? trash talky? salty? what do you feel it is?

[jolly sierra]

that is what he said?

[woven jolt]

Bing Searched and it ended in shit like "share morning" or the full thing smth like "Hey, wanna play till mornin?" in like, Bulgarian lskdfjl

[jolly sierra]

wtf

[woven jolt]

I don't think AT ALL it meant that, but like, idk

xD

[jolly sierra]

how tf ppl expect a random person to speak bulgarian lol

[woven jolt]

No clue llkjsdflksdf For the record, I had to like, search on translator word by word, I have no real clue wtf the dude meant

[jolly sierra]

even reading german is easier

[wise breach]

Not sure if it's already been said, but they added a dagger for Bloody Coins

haste/vers

[jolly sierra]

yeah

we were surprised hours ago

but still not mastery

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

[wise breach]

I don't mind haste tbh, I feel like we're going to be able to have mastery in every single piece outside of tier

and weapons

[surreal barn]

Gimme mastery everything

[wise breach]

Hmm, I missed this:

Fixed an issue that caused some skills to be unaffected by Assassination's Mastery: Potent Assassin, including Kingsbane's initial damage, Sepsis, and Mutilate's damage from Vicious Venoms.

Sepsis time with 4pc?!

[potent pivot]

[jolly sierra]

im curious

if trickz is able to ban ppl from here

i've never seen anyone banned by him lol

[potent pivot]

[jolly sierra]

oh here we go

[potent pivot]

i'm pretty sure i can, but i have yet to do it

most things can be solved with a mute

[jolly sierra]

u could used that chance with nope when he was here tho

but an orange won that chance

[potent pivot]

because i notified them

the shadowblades have been here longer and have a better decision making than me when it comes to that

i don't wanna ban anyone if it should just be a mute or something

[jolly sierra]

well thought the ban was fair

tbh

[fading blade]

did they confirm honor wasnt resetting?

[potent pivot]

not that i know of, no

[jolly sierra]

nothing yet

[fading blade]

[jolly sierra]

but doesn't matter tho

u will know it in some hours

[fading blade]

:C

[floral meadow]

newbie rogue here. I returned to wow after 10 years and also created my first rogue and leveled him from 60-70. I made it to 1250 rating in season 1 with Assa Spec.

Now I've read that sub seems to be the better choice

in s2, at least for the first few weeks? who knows.

Should i switch to sub or should i stay with assa and learn the basics of arena pvp? because i started to feel comfortable with assa rotation and so on..

[low moon]

Play what makes you happy, you are not at the point where just picking a different spec would help you and it will likely hurt you instead

[floral meadow]

ok

when does spec really matter in your opionion?

[low moon]

When you can play them both at the same level/ same amount of skill and something specific about one will give you an advantage over the other.

[floral meadow]

ok

thx!

[low moon]

Sure thing

[minor cape]

assa is fine

[harsh steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-big-day-gif-12474684

[harsh steppe]

what does enrage mean? do i use shiv against casters/ranged?

[potent pivot]

Enrage is mostly a pve mechanic, but yes. You want to use it to slow people

[harsh steppe]

even ranged?

[tawny kestrel]

shiv is just something u press if u want to

the slow is 84% as it says

which is a lot

can also use it to dispell warriors beserker rage

if u wanna gouge to bait beserker rage and then fear or something

[harsh steppe]

ok tysm guys ❤️

[narrow tangle]

sub is least forgiving spec

[harsh steppe]

also the most difficult to master

[minor cape]

the wpvp oneshotting ele shamans mastery

🫡

[floral meadow]

thx @narrow tangle and @harsh steppe

i will stay with assa.

[normal tendon]

im new as well and i was thinking of switching but sticking to the thing i enjoy was best decision getting more wins everyday

[surreal barn]

So what are you all rolling out as first today??

[cobalt pewter]

[wintry dew]

Oh hey Mud

You enjoy our new bubble aswell?

[minor cape]

Mud is a rogue fan!

[cobalt pewter]

rogue is broken!

[minor cape]

he loves playing rogue

he pretends to be a warrior

as a joke

[wintry dew]

Rank 1 as a joke

Just to prove a point

[minor cape]

so people dont know he is a rogue player

[wise breach]

Chaining Bolt into Shockwave, sounds like sub rogue gameplay to me

[minor cape]

in fact it's raz's alt account

😎

[wintry dew]

LOL

[cobalt pewter]

I have cc

finally

[wintry dew]

Btw mud, fan of your content, was pretty dope to see your montages in SL, one shotting as necro

[cobalt pewter]

consider rerolling warrior

[pastel burrow]

tempting tbh i'd have so much free space in my skull if i played a warrior

[minor cape]

we should all just group up and gank mud in open world

by streamsniping

until he rerolls rogue

😎

[cobalt pewter]

[pale storm]

Playing Sub all day, gotta get that week 1 - 1800 shredder mog

[marble oasis]

GUYS!!!!

GUYHSDIKNSD

only took them a whole week to fix it!
https://i.imgur.com/IfPMwZF.png

[proper meadow]

there it is!

[pale storm]

It showed up yesterday and we already cried about them messing up the stats lol

First they took away our blind>sap
Then they forgot our bloody token dagger
Now they have given it back with wrong stats
But this way they trick us, we are so grateful that there is a dagger, we will take it no matter the stats
‘If you keep them busy with basic needs, they will forget about the freedom they lost’

[marble oasis]

it's ok rogue pvp is my copium escape for the state of rogue in pve

[wanton breach]

you probably need another coping mechanism after playing rogue in pvp

[potent pivot]

Can’t we craft a dagger and give it pvp scaling

[wintry dew]

If the item reward to pvp upgrade an item is out i believe you can (?)

Or is it only main pieces?

[crystal fox]

https://youtu.be/IZDzMbTRV6E

This is hands down the greatest video I’ve ever seen

[tame onyx]

Is there a limit for crafted pieces?

[surreal barn]

I don’t think the pvp ilvl increase counts as an embellishment so I want to say no

[marble oasis]

oh no he pressed publish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHQfYi2JxDo

rip sub

[lucid citrus]

Nooo god dammit

[marble oasis]

i will say i am absolutely loving veil of midnight

[potent pivot]

[cobalt pewter]

completely broken

[chrome schooner]

just press overpower

[marble oasis]

yeh it's free overpower

[austere thorn]

Are we going full honor set or we keeping the s1 tier until s2 cq/tier pieces? For outlaw

[jolly sierra]

told u ur buffs won't take too much to dissapear

btw, is that mud the real one? the rank 1? lol

[waxen meteor]

Wow, that's a lot difference than mine

and why is he explaining with set tier already

[terse flower]

I cant, I gotta be fast as fuck boi

no way im removing those 2 speedy talents

[waxen meteor]

I think this is based on PTR?

[normal tendon]

i watched that vid are the talents legit the new good ones?

[wise breach]

Nope, it's only jewelry and armor pieces, no weapons

[waxen meteor]

I mean the idea behind is clear

He gave up ST

Evis is enough dmg in his view

[graceful ravine]

surprised no cdr

[waxen meteor]

in addition, it's also good for 4 tier set

[graceful ravine]

i mean vanish pvp talent

[normal tendon]

i noticed the ST missing btw i was clueless

[surreal barn]

ST deals a shitload I shall be keeping it

Guides be damned lol

[waxen meteor]

There are a couple of points that could be discussed i guess

[surreal barn]

The first dance in his opener is kind of irrelevant

[waxen meteor]

tbh this is a build based on 2 tier set

[surreal barn]

So I can see why he dropped

[waxen meteor]

he wants to take full usage of symbol

with 2 tier set

this whole build is built around it

[surreal barn]

Yeah

[waxen meteor]

rotten is basically selected for 2 tier set

and with rotten no first dance also makes sense

he also trade shadow backstab over multiple rupture

I tried a few games of sub last night, i think ST is still good with old gear, but shadow dance duration talent is really important now

since a random cheapshot off target at end of SD could have fairly good impact

it's also a bit strange to me he took the 6th cp talent but not the 7th..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz8qvtqQ-do

pfff .... got a youtube video link from that sub video

[obsidian moon]

are NA servers up?

[waxen meteor]

no

[harsh steppe]

i wish

https://tenor.com/view/were-very-close-very-close-close-friends-with-buddies-gif-15122387

[waxen meteor]

it says 11pm pacific time right?

so another 2 hours

[floral meadow]

Who’s that?

[waxen meteor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHQfYi2JxDo

[graceful ravine]

could be good

the idea is solid, just need the dmg to align too

[normal tendon]

should i go practice combo on dummy

[graceful ravine]

well its not really good until 2 pc

[fierce laurel]

Is it confirmed that 2 set grants rotten?

That’s a big assumption if it’s not tested yet.

[lucid citrus]

Wowheadnews said servers are up now?

[tribal badger]

before anyone asks, servers are up and honor did not reset

[normal tendon]

na lives in the future??

[jolly sierra]

heh

[wintry dew]

No shot

[jolly sierra]

good to know

[wintry dew]

Yes they do xD

[normal tendon]

what is dtb

after assasination

[lucid citrus]

Wish i was working from home i want to see what the honor gear looks like

And what’s the cap for conq?

[normal tendon]

i mean u can prob look it up?

[tribal badger]

honor gear

same as last season i believe

just new ilvl

[normal tendon]

dud show it on a real race

[lucid citrus]

Im sorry i mean stats wise on the gear

[jolly sierra]

owo

[normal tendon]

wait so if the honor gear is better than the bis rn that means i can catch up now even faster?

[jolly sierra]

which bis

is 13 ilvl higher

[tribal badger]

haste/crit chests, crit dagger, mast/haste helms, haste/mast pants, haste/crit boots, mast/crit gloves, crit/haste shoulders, crit/haste belt, crit/haste bracers

[jolly sierra]

with tier nerfed by 50%

can go fuck itself

[tribal badger]

second stat on everything is vers obviously

[lucid citrus]

Ty

[jolly sierra]

just full gear urself w honor and get the dagger for now

[tribal badger]

ugh this is cursed

im dropping so much warmode ilvl to put on honor gear

[lucid citrus]

Now to decide to either go for outlaw gear or sun gear

[tribal badger]

cause its like 40 ilvls lower then conq gear

[normal tendon]

sub ong

💯

[tribal badger]

1350 first week conq cap

elite weapon appearences this season are garbage sheesh

and theres like zero of them

no 1h sword, no 2h sword or 2h axe

[wise breach]

Yeah but the PvP illusion is absolutely sick

[tribal badger]

tru

[potent pivot]

Need 2pc and there’s no way to know for sure until season starts

Need to see how it performs in real situations once everyone has more health from conq gear etc

[normal tendon]

more health

[tribal badger]

some interesting bugs happening in soloq

......

[modest lake]

whats the ez play for solo queue boys

outlaw actually cooking?

[minor cape]

is it out only on US?

[normal tendon]

ye

only us

[minor cape]

guess im waiting for tommorow

[minor cape]

true

honestly if thats the build i will kms

ill just be playing old rotten

[graceful ravine]

honor is not reset

[tribal badger]

soloq with double caster lobbies is

not fun

which i guess i expected

anytime u leave a pillar ur dead

me and ret just hugging pillars entire game praying

[minor cape]

dude this so weird honestly

cause like

your old rotten sec tech will just deal more dam, at least as im seeing rn

from this vid

[simple crest]

do i just swap out all my unranked glad gear for the new honor gear?

[fallen wharf]

Sub wise, anyone switching from Sec Tech back to Evisc build with new set bonuses?

[marble oasis]

So NA folks

conquest reset and honor didn't correct?

[fallen wharf]

Correct

[elfin oasis]

So the real question here, is NS fixed?

[waxen meteor]

Why? Rotten doesn’t give additional bonus to ST right?

[minor cape]

i mean like

if you go for old rotten sec tech build you can still do a double rotten

in a dancr

but also have a sec tech

but this guy suggests going some weird paths with vigor and what not and taking 6 cp

and cold blooding an eviscerate

i just dont see why

[graceful ravine]

what do you give up for secret tech?

[waxen meteor]

For the 4 tier set

Crit dmg +50%

[graceful ravine]

its 40%, and 20% in pvp

[minor cape]

ayo what???

yeah no way its 50

[waxen meteor]

He said 50 in the YouTube

[minor cape]

still will be less than sec tech no?

[waxen meteor]

I am just quoting

[graceful ravine]

hes wrong

[waxen meteor]

I think it will be 50%/2

[minor cape]

he said it will be buffed by 50

i think

[graceful ravine]

its 40%, and nerfed in pvp so 20%

[waxen meteor]

Doesn’t matter tbh he uses cold blood basically for that

[graceful ravine]

maybe he doesnt realize the nerf

[waxen meteor]

Pvp modifier is probably missed in his video

[minor cape]

well even if it was 50 that cb evis will hit less

[normal tendon]

i mean didnt he say he is not sure about using the 4set anyways

[minor cape]

than cb st

[waxen meteor]

True, he took out also rapture

But he took the shadow backstab

[minor cape]

if no sec tech build will be bis great

but i dont see it

[waxen meteor]

and it allows you to reach rotten easier

[minor cape]

🫡

[waxen meteor]

I think there are multiple comprises because he wants to reach rotten

And keep evis talents

[minor cape]

i play this path always anyway

not into brew

but brew eviscerates are very thick rn

[waxen meteor]

Yeah

But his go is actually indeed quite easy

[graceful ravine]

can you post talents with rotten/dance m/secret tech?

what do you give up

[minor cape]

wait ill be on pc in like 15 min

[waxen meteor]

Nap time

[fallen wharf]

Gonna keep ST for now until sets are relevant to test

[minor cape]

++ im very excited for symbols thing tho

btw one another point i wanted to make

[tribal badger]

destro lock on blades edge

afk in center doing 85k dps

🙂

this season is gunna be lit

[minor cape]

if we will get so many free symbols why even bother with vigor

[normal tendon]

locks feel impossible to play against if they know how to click their buttons

[tribal badger]

if u leave a pillar vs destro ur just dead

[minor cape]

it was always like this

[tribal badger]

its almost not worth it to try to kick them

[minor cape]

except now its harder to stop him from casting

[tribal badger]

3 second lockout vs giving them lust + cc immunity if they manage to juke

just use hard ccs or nothing

[waxen meteor]

85k

[tribal badger]

we were ret/rogue btw

not even pets to pad on

just natty 85k dps

[waxen meteor]

Rogue indeed good supporting any 85k dps spec

Just do random stun and cc

And let 85k blows

[normal tendon]

babysitting healers is my fav thing to do anyways

[minor cape]

when you are near the gates on blades edge and you see a destro lock with 6 burn to ashes stacks, precog and chaos bolt proc casting into you:

[tribal badger]

pov: its the next round

pretty much

jesus christ facing precog this season

gunna make me neck

time to set up my ele

[waxen meteor]

That’s when you use cloak

[tribal badger]

hmm

this enhance has killed someone from 80+ to 0% hp in 1 gcd 4 games in a row

this season is COOKIN

[waxen meteor]

Nuh I think it’s just season kick off week

All will be nerfed

[minor cape]

ahhh tbh not scary on sub

[cobalt pewter]

if only rogue had a button that gave them full magic damage immunity

[minor cape]

what if you dont have it

already

[cobalt pewter]

friendly step to your healer and line until re

impossible to die as rogue

i swear

[minor cape]

i dont even mind destros honestly

no complaints from me

😎

[tribal badger]

if only lock needed cds to do 85k dps so u could just cloak it and live

🥹

precog is the new cd

anytime precog is procced you pillar or die

holding portal charges for it fr

probaby more reasonable on a different map tbf

blades edge lock is 🤮

[lucid citrus]

Is it safe to get outlaw gear first?

[minor cape]

@graceful ravine

kinda like this

[sharp pumice]

I'm sure you guys have been inundated with questions like this, but how are we gearing in s2?

mastery > ????

kinda waffling on haste vs crit

[waxen meteor]

I guess we are just going all honor today?

[minor cape]

crit

[graceful ravine]

Symbols cdr is a must for the tier to work imo

[waxen meteor]

with hammer as off hand

[minor cape]

yes, probably can change some stuff up

[graceful ravine]

To double symbols each go

[sharp pumice]

was my inclination for sub, but you think that for assa as well?

[minor cape]

but if you really think about it

[minor cape]

no for assa haste

[graceful ravine]

Would need to test when tier is available

[minor cape]

you will most likely vanish at that point

and shadowdust

[sharp pumice]

mostly play assassin, I don't feel like, y'know, thinking

[minor cape]

anyway

but you are much more big brain

than me

so ye

xd

[waxen meteor]

well in theory i think you are right

[graceful ravine]

Palumor prob overvaluing evis cos he doesn’t realize tier is nerfed in PvP

[waxen meteor]

vanish could be

i feel losing double rapture is a big lose as well

[sharp pumice]

I think we're tied in the "2 braincells left, and they're fighting to the death for third place" bracket

[minor cape]

you guys played it???

[waxen meteor]

well i did.... am i doing sth stupid...?

i know the second target can be bad

[surreal barn]

Anyone using that ridiculous cloak yet

[waxen meteor]

the shield cloack when hp is below 30%?

[surreal barn]

Yeh

[wise breach]

There were a number of comments indicating the cloak is nerfed by 60% in PvP

[surreal barn]

With 450 ilvl isn’t it still a lot

[waxen meteor]

what do we need to craft now

[wise breach]

Also Slimy Boots are nerfed by 55%, Toxic Thorn boots by 60% in PvP

[waxen meteor]

what boots do we need to craft this season?

[wise breach]

No clue yet tbh

Using Infurious for now

[minor cape]

honestly

[waxen meteor]

but infurious is same as last season as item level 424 right?

[minor cape]

its really good

[wise breach]

Will be making Slimy for PvE next week and will try them in PvP then

[minor cape]

at least in 2s

cause thats what im playing for the past 2 days

[waxen meteor]

or something needs to be recrafted

[minor cape]

😄

[wise breach]

You can recraft Infurious with a Trophy

[waxen meteor]

i hate this DF craft thing

[surreal barn]

Yeah I 5 starred that bad boy @ 450 yesterday. Definitely worth

[waxen meteor]

This?

oh, these

something i got from missins

never realized what they were for

[wise breach]

That looks like the honor one, just use the free conquest one you get from the quest, but you need a Spark of Shadowflame, so depends on whether you used your first one on something else

Yeah

[jolly sierra]

how much does cost conq trophies?

[wise breach]

Same as the corresponding conquest item in that slot

[waxen meteor]

hmm i still don't have the first spark

[wise breach]

550/700/875

[waxen meteor]

does it need to be farmed somewhere

[wise breach]

Quest from the new town

[waxen meteor]

The very new town this week?

[wise breach]

You could get it last week

[floral meadow]

how much conquest can i get weekly?

[waxen meteor]

hmm i did the last week town

[wise breach]

1350 this week, then 550 every week after

[floral meadow]

1350+550 or only 550 per week?

[waxen meteor]

1350 for first week

[wise breach]

Only 550 per week, it's a rolling cap, so if you don't max out your conquest in one week you can catch up later

[waxen meteor]

then 550 every other week as shortcut says

[floral meadow]

okay so basically its like 1,5 conquest items per week, assuming you get a great vault reward +550 points

[jolly sierra]

i never get bored of ppl using paint in internet

[waxen meteor]

OH THIS?

[wise breach]

Light mode

[wise breach]

Yup

[waxen meteor]

But that means we can build only one of boots and cloak?

sorry i am such a noob for crafting

[jolly sierra]

if u have enough sparks, sure

[wise breach]

Yeah, it's one crafted item every 2 weeks

[jolly sierra]

but u can only equip 2 embellished at same time

[waxen meteor]

so in theory live with 424 boots, and craft max cloak

[wise breach]

Moving forward we get one Splintered Spark every week

[waxen meteor]

is what we gonna do

then exchange all honor gear with honor hammer as offhand

[wise breach]

I'm not sure cloak is worth if nerfed 60%

[jolly sierra]

absorbs around 100k

[wise breach]

Probably wait for some people to test it out

[jolly sierra]

w that nerf

u make ur conclusions w that

[waxen meteor]

if it absorbs 100k it's great

more than great

[jolly sierra]

i calculated that while i was in work

nobody come there in that moment, so

[waxen meteor]

Calling your boss now

[jolly sierra]

XDDDD

[waxen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-call-phone-on-call-dialing-gif-16416201

[wise breach]

The crafting this patch feels like SL legendaries

[jolly sierra]

luckily they run away after 2 pm

so no problem XD

at least they are not class specific

like w SL

[wise breach]

I don't mind it though, it's cool having these various effects, it just sucks trying to guess their PvP effectiveness

[jolly sierra]

wait is still borrowed power

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[waxen meteor]

i don't know what that is, but it sounds like everyone hates it so bad, and the name doesn't look appealing to me at all

[jolly sierra]

stuff which just stays long for like an entire xp and disappear

u get used w that

but after the xp usually just gets useless

echoing reprimand and serrated bone spike are examples

[wise breach]

Tier sets are borrowed power 🙂

[jolly sierra]

but at least in the case of SBS was included back for rogues

for feedback

[minor cape]

except they actually made er stay

[jolly sierra]

so is not borrowed power anymore cuz is permanent for rogues

[waxen meteor]

i see

we keep the s1 tier right?

[jolly sierra]

yeah, they WERE borrowed power

but were included back

[waxen meteor]

so change everything but boot and s1 tier 4

[jolly sierra]

unless they add it in talent tree

no, are borrowed power

[waxen meteor]

but sub, probably just keep two s1 tier

[minor cape]

i wish er didnt stay

🙂

[wise breach]

S1 tier still works, but I think they're all nerfed by 50% in PvP now, not just specific ones

[jolly sierra]

yeah

is nerfed

so take all ur shit and use honor meanwhile

[minor cape]

i heard

we will be able to go full mastery

[floral meadow]

from a gear perspective.. what should i do with my conq points? get the weapons? craft boots with precog? after weapons get the main gear slots (chest..., legs,..)?

[minor cape]

on honor/conq gear

is it true?

except daggers

[jolly sierra]

yes

cuz crafted system

if u don't embellish

u can get the life-giving gear

from leatherworking

and get mastery in every piece w versa

a ring w versa mastery does exist too which is not embellished

so yeah, is true

[waxen meteor]

oh shoot for real?

ok, so all blue now

belt ish i don't think changing to blue actually means anything

where we have the gem from s1

s2 honor is higher item level but no gem

[jolly sierra]

remember u can still use gems in honor neck

[waxen meteor]

with ton of gold 🙂

[jolly sierra]

well

farm some herbs

XD

[tribal badger]

like 4k gold

idk what server ur on that neck stuffs expensive anymore

2X r2 for 600g a piece 1X r3 for 1.2k gold

[waxen meteor]

nuh i am not really too worried about gold

[jolly sierra]

oh look

lizards will get a lego after all

[waxen meteor]

I hate changing trinket

it also means i need to change the item of keybind every spec and every build

[jolly sierra]

yeah

[waxen meteor]

and most time i end up with missing one of 2 build

then i was why my trinket doesn't work

[jolly sierra]

well, that happens everytime

even since old times

[floral meadow]

was this yes related to my question? 😄

[jolly sierra]

nope

[floral meadow]

ok :>

[jolly sierra]

there are patch notes about nerfed crafteds in pvp already?

or is just stealth nerfed?

[polar wasp]

is outlaw gonna be good this season ?

[tribal badger]

lizards might unironically be a good caster this tier

they do such wild damage when u cant shut them down with the new stats

and their fire wall talent on a 1m cd is huge

it makes goes insanely strong

its like a 1m cd smokebomb that does damage xd

the kill pressure is insane

[jolly sierra]

this will hurt

[crimson basalt]

Yeah

[polar wasp]

nice !

[crimson basalt]

Sadly

Well

[wise breach]

Divide and Conquer is annoying af, it blocks los for their teammates too

[crimson basalt]

Not good but it’ll be alright

[tribal badger]

nah they fixed that

today i think

[crimson basalt]

Better then assa and sub

[tribal badger]

doesnt cause los for allies

[polar wasp]

i take that

[wise breach]

Oh, cool

[tribal badger]

its literally just a better smokebomb

a smokebomb that also does 200k damage

[wise breach]

Awesome

[tribal badger]

on a 1m cd

its hilarious

they also do like 90k dps rn but they always did that

precog item just made them insane

[buoyant niche]

How long does the LoS last?

[tribal badger]

uh

think its like 6s?

[wise breach]

Yeah 6s

[crimson basalt]

They always been

[jolly sierra]

tf were pvp devs smoking doing that

[tribal badger]

and if u run in to heal ur allies

or they run out

they get a 80k dot on them

[buoyant niche]

Ah. Smoke bomb is like 5s I think.

[tribal badger]

this thing is gunna be hilarious in bgs honestly

lizard looks like it might be decent this season

[crimson basalt]

Lizard

Op

If lines correctly

[cobalt pewter]

another season of rogue countering warrior

[tribal badger]

idk at 2k mmr rn everygame with a lizard the lizard is just killing everyone always

and u dont even stop ur damage training them because of precog and spellschools

[crimson basalt]

Mane I wish

[jolly sierra]

are u the real mud?

[cobalt pewter]

has for the last 3 years

[crimson basalt]

Should be like that theirs a reason they’re called a rogue

[waxen meteor]

You guys think the double rapture talent is good or i shoudl forget it

[cobalt pewter]

[waxen meteor]

I disabled the dmg meter addon for last few days

[cobalt pewter]

[jolly sierra]

sus

[crimson basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader3455-crusader-gif-26447061

Does anyone else get a bug when you press shadow tech and shadow strike from details?

[jolly sierra]

me w ret after getting 2k4 this season

[tribal badger]

alright boys first piece of tier unlocked

👏

[crimson basalt]

Oh ret and warrior was so free dude

[crimson basalt]

I got it on both classes so easily

[cobalt pewter]

[jolly sierra]

w warrior tbh i was struggled cuz i went literal w 0 knowledge about the class

so i just reached 1k8

[cobalt pewter]

more tools to counter warrior

[crimson basalt]

God that’s so hot to see

I love it

[jolly sierra]

ME CANT SMASH

[crimson basalt]

I can’t wait for that free cheapshot into ss and evis. Mmmm

[cobalt pewter]

[tribal badger]

delicious

[crimson basalt]

Sheeeeesh

[jolly sierra]

OOF

[waxen meteor]

wait wait wait what

how do you get a tier already

[tribal badger]

its 1700 btw

not 1800

[crimson basalt]

Ptr

[tribal badger]

u get 1 piece of tier gear

no not ptr

this is live

[crimson basalt]

How r u elite bro

[tribal badger]

u get 1 piece of tier from vendor for hitting 2400

uhhh im not

[crimson basalt]

Do you sleep?

[tribal badger]

the gear sold comes elite ilvl

[crimson basalt]

Wait what

[tribal badger]

yes

[crimson basalt]

HUH

[tribal badger]

the vendor has a full set of 434 pvp/pve gear

[crimson basalt]

This game is bad dude

Fuck

[tribal badger]

u get 1 token this season

for hitting 1700 pvp/2400 pve

[crimson basalt]

Rip

[tribal badger]

whichever u get first

and u can pick a set piece

tbh i probably shoulda saved it for raid clear but also

gear

[lucid citrus]

You already got 1700 in pvp?

[tribal badger]

ye

1 more game to unlock my season set appearence

🙏

then i can chill

[lucid citrus]

As outlaw? Nice!

[cobalt pewter]

damn im not even home yet

[jolly sierra]

this guy is fkn sonic

[cobalt pewter]

[tribal badger]

but i need u in my queues mud

so i can disarm ur parry

😠

and cloak ur avatar

[cobalt pewter]

[waxen meteor]

oh i remember

yeah gotta farm it quickly!

[jolly sierra]

do u have genetically enhanced hands?

[crimson basalt]

What u do for work?

[cobalt pewter]

rogue so broken

[cobalt pewter]

[normal tendon]

flames rogue for a living

[cobalt pewter]

rogue main trying to find where i work

[jolly sierra]

wait

is at 1k7

[cobalt pewter]

[jolly sierra]

where u get the elite piece?

[crimson basalt]

I’m curious man cuz theirs a lot of ppl going into computer science who play on WoW

[normal tendon]

im gon study that as well

[minor cape]

meanwhile me just chilling in the past

[wintry dew]

you get a token to exchange for tier, either pvp or pve, and it seems the pvp piece you redeem is already max PvE ilevel

[minor cape]

on eu

[minor cape]

i just had a 2s game with 85 dampening

rogue moment

[cobalt pewter]

[jolly sierra]

good shit

[wintry dew]

Mud you legit just bored of warriors discord or you watching us be good for like 1 week before nerfs to the talent? 😛

[minor cape]

rogue is like fine now

no?

why nerf

[waxen meteor]

i feel s1 drake rogue is garbage rigth?

honor hammer is like >>>>

[crimson basalt]

Negatice

[waxen meteor]

only upgrade

[crimson basalt]

Rogue does no msg

Dmg

[minor cape]

i think it does

[crimson basalt]

Due to false accusations on a spec

[wintry dew]

yeah we gotta complain we bad so we get more buffs

[crimson basalt]

As assa sorta

[minor cape]

im feeling much better on sub rn

than before patch

[crimson basalt]

Your whole burst

Takes someone’s hp down to 50%

When kill window

And does nothing

[minor cape]

nah you are not right

[cobalt pewter]

i keep an eye on mage and rogue cord to keep you boys in check

[minor cape]

it was before 10.1 tho

like this

[crimson basalt]

10.1 before yes

10.1 now

Sucks

[minor cape]

i mean

[crimson basalt]

Wait what

[minor cape]

it was worse

[crimson basalt]

10.1 sub sucks

[tawny kestrel]

were all the items 434?

[crimson basalt]

10.5 sub was alr

[tawny kestrel]

or just the one u picked

[minor cape]

nah man, you tried already?

[crimson basalt]

10.7 nerf and relied on tech

Then our only big dmg as tech nerf too

[minor cape]

eviscerates actually do dam now

and sec tech hits more

somehow

in same gear

[cobalt pewter]

[crimson basalt]

Meh

How@much mastery you have

[jolly sierra]

lets disarm this warrior die by the sword

[minor cape]

74 in pvp

[tribal badger]

@tawny kestrel yes

[cobalt pewter]

[tribal badger]

its a full set of pvp/pve tier

all 434 ilvl

so elite for pvp

[tawny kestrel]

so nomatter what slot they were 434?

shoulders were 434 as well?

[cobalt pewter]

we need this back

[wintry dew]

Do you though?

[cobalt pewter]

yes.

then i will finally counter rogue scum

[crimson basalt]

We need oneshot :(

[cobalt pewter]

[wintry dew]

[tribal badger]

437 i think actually

one or two slots were higher

im in game rn cant check

but all same in pvp obv

[waxen meteor]

ok quite good winning rate at skirsh

8-1 so far with random people

but could mean nothing lol

[minor cape]

cmon skirmish is like 100% wr for rogue

[crimson basalt]

Yeah

Try solo

Or 2s

3s just play rmp or thug

[minor cape]

i played fire sub loved being a stunbot

🫡

today

[crimson basalt]

Same dude

[minor cape]

works pretty well

[crimson basalt]

I love watch warriors die in a kidney

@cobalt pewter <33

[waxen meteor]

gotta do some warm up

[cobalt pewter]

i bladestorm kidney still dead

[crimson basalt]

Makes me happy

[cobalt pewter]

cloak disarm off 🤡

[crimson basalt]

I remember when I kidney you and you flipped

Was bigggggg

[minor cape]

Mud when rogue - 😡

[cobalt pewter]

[crimson basalt]

Shows that I’m the better player

Big dam

[cobalt pewter]

thats kap

[crimson basalt]

Proven

I’m better

[cobalt pewter]

[minor cape]

he doesnt play warrior so he has the moral highground

[crimson basalt]

[minor cape]

🫡

[crimson basalt]

[cobalt pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader3455-crusader-gif-26554983

[crimson basalt]

Warriors when they trinket air

[minor cape]

mud what would you rather play - a warrior that has rogues abilities or a rogue that has warriors abilities

[crimson basalt]

Rogue when they blind their trinket

[jolly sierra]

that guy miestro is funny

[minor cape]

whos miestro

[cobalt pewter]

rather lift

[crimson basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/deus-vult-deus-vult-intensifies-sword-triggered-gif-15356993

[minor cape]

you dont lift you a wow player

[crimson basalt]

Lift only 90?

[cobalt pewter]

[crimson basalt]

Rogue players bench more

[jolly sierra]

the crazy guy from the gif

[cobalt pewter]

hes so chill

[minor cape]

rogue players watch anime a lot

and hate mud

[cobalt pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/illuzory-irl-zyzz-flex-illuzory-gif-24468583

[jolly sierra]

we have a russian here

we win

[minor cape]

ayo what

[minor cape]

im not fighting this guy

[jolly sierra]

blind him and vanish

[minor cape]

gouge him and hump pillar

[potent pivot]

Season starts -> everyone loses brain

[minor cape]

yes

[jolly sierra]

BIG DAM

[minor cape]

hehehehe i will kidney into a hoj

[jolly sierra]

im stupid

i was using the minimap full zoomed

while i was farming nodes

[waxen meteor]

Where to farm this?

guys been speaking about item level 450 cloak

[minor cape]

bro what even is this

[waxen meteor]

materials to support it to go lv450..

[minor cape]

have you already opened that box?

purple box

and did the quest it drops?

[waxen meteor]

what purple box damn did i play

[jolly sierra]

u upgrade to 450

[minor cape]

like the normal pvp box

[jolly sierra]

with pvp trophies

[wintry dew]

tarny you can just wowhead it

[minor cape]

its that material im thinking bout right?

[wintry dew]

your answer will be there 99% sure 😛

[minor cape]

the one that makes items scale to 450