pvp

[potent pivot]

No

You would change the top line

[harsh steppe]

/cast stealth
/stopattack
/cast !stealth
?

[potent pivot]

Why are you adding lines

[harsh steppe]

sorry if I wasn't clear, i want a macro to stealth & unstealth

[potent pivot]

Yes

[plucky sage]

!stealth means you can't unstealth by pressing it again. If you want to stealth and unstealth with the same button you don't need a macro, the normal stealth spell does that already. First press stealth, press again to unstealth

[potent pivot]

Just edit the first line

[harsh steppe]

ahh so there's no way to make a macro that stealths & has /stopattack or else unstealths if i'm already in stealth

[plucky sage]

I'm curious why exactly you want to ever unstealth?

/cast stealth
/stopattack

[potent pivot]

You literally just remove the ! as we’ve been saying

[harsh steppe]

ty

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

Most likely to use it outside of pvp too, like for general use

If I had to guess anyway

[plucky sage]

Ya but, even outside of PVP.. You gain nothing from that. If I just want to unstealth to see my char and look at my mog or something, I just click the buff of or the stance button. Idk

but yeah I guess different strokes for different folks

[potent pivot]

Yeah I usually just fan of knives or something to drop stealth but idk can be a little annoying at times I suppose

[wanton breach]

I do the same, I wouldn't want to accidentally unstealth in pvp or pve

If you want to unstealth you could put that into a macro for a different ability

/cast [stealth]Stealth;[nostealth]Shiv

[gloomy mantle]

Do a /cancelaura stealth at some random button

[grizzled basin]

Looking for advice of good sin rogue to watch on switch. My usual ones are all doing Sub/outlaw in solo now

[rancid cipher]

Can anyone tell me mandatory pvp addons

Gladius is all I need or?

For up to 2k, I dont think I am able to go higher 😄

[harsh steppe]

@rancid cipher https://youtu.be/dinvTq8jcdY is a really good recent video covering the mandatory ones, but check out the sidebar for your class & there are more specific WAs too

[rancid cipher]

@harsh steppe Ty!

[potent pivot]

Gladius, OmniCD, OmniBar, JaxPartyCastBars, BigDebuffs or FlyPlateBuffs, there’s a bunch

[potent pivot]

Yeah a lot of them are playing other classes or specs

[wanton breach]

is jaxpartycastbars working again? it crashed my game at the start of dragonlands

[hoary bear]

anyone here willing to analyze my solo shuffle games I recorded (Im bad, like really bad)

[plucky sage]

Practice damage on dummy. Focus on doing damage first and foremost. You won't benefit from being told you need to sap/gouge/blind off targets if to begin with your rotation is subpar and not hurting anyone

[orchid plinth]

Don't know but SkillCapped has a WA for party cast bars here, it works: https://wago.io/WjEDPcx5z

[wanton breach]

thanks gonna check it out!

[hoary bear]

but how do I know what rotation is optimal

everyone tells me something different

[plucky sage]

After that, general tips is use your utility as often as possible, even if you don't know when to use it yet. Disarm warriors, smoke bomb a kill target, kidney shot as often as you can on CD even if it's not the optimal play, as it's easy to forget to do all these things and if you're really really bad as you say, then focusing on just those will help a lot as a start

[plucky sage]

Well who is everyone and what did they say was different? Generally, open with cheap shot, double garrote, rupture as step 1. After that you can tea and echoing reprimand, shiv, bone spike, envenom, and then mutilate and envenom on blue combo points.

[hoary bear]

but I want to garrote out of stealth

[plucky sage]

You have a talent

That lets you garrote for 3s after stealth

The cheap shot is value because you can't use it in that window since you probably aren't specced into subterfuge

And if he's stunned you won't get disarmed or stunned or evasioned or whatever on opener.

[hoary bear]

true but I get 2 more combo points with shrouded suffocation

Ill try open with cheap shot

[plucky sage]

Another thing is if you can manage it, spread garrotes into at least 2 targets. 2 on main target and one on off target, as it helps with energy regen

[plucky sage]

That still applies in your 3s window out of stealth

[hoary bear]

omg..

[plucky sage]

That's why I said 2 garrotes into rupture, as you'll have full CP from that

[hoary bear]

why the FUCK is everyone telling me to garrote firt then?

[plucky sage]

Well

It's situational

If you cheap shot your kidney is on DR, I generally kidney healer if I cheap shot my main target

[brave scarab]

Hey Quick question, which one of the assassination builds would be best suited for epic battlegrounds?

[hoary bear]

which talent is the 3s talent?

[plucky sage]

But you can open with marked for death kidney instead of cheap

[plucky sage]

Forgot the name, empowered garrote or something? It's next to internal bleeding

[hoary bear]

ah

improved garrote

[plucky sage]

Yes that one

But yeah if you don't cheap

It's easier to get 3 garrotes out

2 on main target and one on off target

[hoary bear]

but I never use cheap shot then .. I think it might be a good opener

[plucky sage]

Since you get 1 global head start and 3s is fast

[plucky sage]

Try it, helped me a lot to not get cc'd before I got any damage rolling

After rupture I might mark for death kidney and try get trinket in that

Especially if healer is blinded and sees this and trinkets too

[hoary bear]

when do I use deathmark then

[plucky sage]

Your kidney is back 20s later and you can use it in a target that doesn't have trinket anymore, and pair it with deathmark for a real go

[hoary bear]

ah

[plucky sage]

Later is better, best to force defensives out first

If you blow everything in the opener you might get CDs that you would have gotten anyway without burning your deathmark

[hoary bear]

i usually sap into blind healer first then go on main target full kidney smoke to force a reaction

[plucky sage]

And then you'd have nothing left for 2 minutes and trinkets would be back up etc.

[hoary bear]

yeah.. probably

[plucky sage]

You could save smoke too

And sap, open on target, then blind healer when sao ends

You waste a lot of time if you're sapping and waiting for it to end to blind and THEN go

[hoary bear]

very true

im dumb lol

[plucky sage]

That's what this sounds like, maybe you meant sap, open on kill target, blind

Basically your opener is to try force CDs that will then allow you to do a real go when they have less defensives to deal with deathmark

[proper heath]

send it. First global. From stealth.

it's the mental damage

they are marked for death!

[plucky sage]

Deathmark?

Or marked for death

Sonnics is way way way better than I am so I'll let him take over

[hoary bear]

deathmarkl

im ingame i brb

ty so much guys

[brave scarab]

Hey Quick question, which one of the assassination builds would be best suited for epic battlegrounds?

[plucky sage]

Good luck

[plucky sage]

Sorry I saw that

Didn't answer

[proper heath]

Both! Both Death spells!

[plucky sage]

Torpid's guide on YouTube covers RBG.

[proper heath]

They wont know what to do!

@plucky sage I'm obviuosly joking.

😄

[brave scarab]

is that guide listed somewhere here?

[plucky sage]

I mean at low MMR it could work lol, but I just worry about them developing bad habits

[plucky sage]

Nope

Just search torpid Assa in youtube

[proper heath]

OMFG you just blew my fucking mind. Blizzard is so shit at naming abilities. Marked for Death. Deathmark. Omfg

[plucky sage]

You'll find it

[proper heath]

I never noticed it

[brave scarab]

allright tyvm

[proper heath]

...... 🤦‍♂️

[plucky sage]

Lmao

[proper heath]

OMF

[plucky sage]

Seems like in epic BGs the crimson tempest aoe type build could be fun

[proper heath]

Dude do not play crimson tempest.

You wanna be effective in bgs. Rogue is effective at single target

[plucky sage]

I tend to just go for 1v1 or 2v1 kills in BGs but if you wanna brawl you can go tempest

I mean that's my feeling but I believe people should have fun in BGs however they decide

So if he just wants to pad then why not

[brave scarab]

i just dont wanna be useless as a complete beginner

[proper heath]

Lol. yes. When we go that approach

[plucky sage]

Well

[proper heath]

but

Assa is so fun in dungeons

[plucky sage]

I'd go normal builds then

[proper heath]

thats for sure

Dude Indescrim Carnage. in dungeons. oh my

[plucky sage]

Learn to duel people, pick off healers that are left behind

[proper heath]

so good

[plucky sage]

That sort of thing

Or go for sneaky caps and duel the defender etc

[proper heath]

yeah. Win the game. Do things o ther classes can't do

[plucky sage]

As rogue it's great because you can deal with 2v1s reasonably well with sap and blind and vanish

[proper heath]

dont ... run in and crimson tempest. Lol

I would say yes if crimson t empest damage is insane. but it's really just a tickle

[plucky sage]

:D

[proper heath]

if a priest presses 1 radiance. it's all healed

[plucky sage]

Yeah for brawling I'd go unholy or fury or something, but I play rogue

[plucky sage]

Only PvE',d as outlaw so far

[proper heath]

Dude now that!

is a brawler

if you wanna brawl. Go blade flurry people.

[plucky sage]

Trying to master it before I turn to other specs

[proper heath]

Blade flurry . You'll be moving healthbars.

Fully buffed Adren rush rogue in the middle of a group in bgs.

The pump

[hoary bear]

my brain is amazing

before the game I told myself I start with cheap shot

guess what I didnt do

exactly

I didnt start with cheap shot

but it went well

[proper heath]

Sometimes I go to the toilet. and then walk out because I forgot what I went there for.

I feel u

[plucky sage]

Nice

What was different?

[hoary bear]

this game I spread garrote more

[plucky sage]

Good

[hoary bear]

and I made sure the healer had mind num bing in him

and thjis time

I went sap into dmg on main target

into blind

[plucky sage]

Toxic blade is nice for that

[hoary bear]

into smoke bomb

[plucky sage]

Good stuff

[hoary bear]

they were throwing def cd around

like hell

[plucky sage]

Hehe

[hoary bear]

toxic blade?

[plucky sage]

And then you still have deathmark for 2nd kidney 20s later when their best defensives are gone

[hoary bear]

I dont have 4 pc rogue set yet btw this makes me feel like im at disadv

[proper heath]

Like to spread more huh? Giggity

[hoary bear]

wdym?

[proper heath]

Get 4 set soon! It's really good

[plucky sage]

It applies poisons from range

[hoary bear]

I mean I can only wait right I only have 1 set item so far

[plucky sage]

So you can just shoot it from where you are

[proper heath]

Did you just get back to the game?

[hoary bear]

Im new to wow pretty much

[proper heath]

oh ok.

[hoary bear]

and my first was a dh

[proper heath]

Yeah you can only get 1 piece a week tier. But if you did the quest multiple weeks. You will have multiple charges.

[hoary bear]

now im thinkingabout a disc priest ^^

[plucky sage]

Yeah but like howton got 3k mmr in US as sub with several blues. Gear isn't everything, though it does help

You can still get far without tier bonus

[hoary bear]

what quest exactly? I thought it was about getting honor per week etc

I mean rank

[proper heath]

Tier!?

[plucky sage]

Well

[proper heath]

So every week. There is a quest in the Vault room. Where you get a weekly charge for your tier set.

[plucky sage]

My advice is pick a class and stick to it until you're decent

[proper heath]

If you've done it 4 week . You can get 4 set on every character

[plucky sage]

If you try play a bunch of classes now when you haven't mastered any, you'll make life harder

I had that struggle and now I exclusively play my rogue in (rated) PvP to get better at it

[faint dagger]

Personal advice is just keep fuckin with the classes until you find one that vibes w/ you

Then game that one

[hoary bear]

there is a quest in the vault room? never seen one

[plucky sage]

Yes ^

[hoary bear]

ye

[plucky sage]

True if you haven't figured that out yet then by all means try them all

[hoary bear]

I know what you saiyng

but hear me out

i play only SS

and dps queus acan be rough

so a healer might be a good choice

[plucky sage]

Sure

But probably best to then just play the healer

[hoary bear]

Ill be back later 🙂 guys

true

[plucky sage]

Alright, see ya

[faint dagger]

Layta

[proper heath]

hows rogue going? you having fun?

[plucky sage]

I love it :) I could never play rogue in wod/BFA/SL because I lived in Africa and had 180ms, just felt awful with the ping to do arenas and have such fast gcd. So played DK mostly. Now that I'm in EU I can finally play rogue without ping issues and I'm so damn happy

[proper heath]

Where in africa my dude? I'm from south africa.

[plucky sage]

And vanilla>WotLK I played warri

[plucky sage]

South Africa also

[proper heath]

WHAT

😮

[plucky sage]

Yeah

Lol

[proper heath]

where are you now?

[plucky sage]

Switzerland at the moment, moving to France in July

[proper heath]

And where in SA? Jhb? Capetown?

[plucky sage]

Jozi

[proper heath]

Bro....

I'm glad you got out.

[plucky sage]

What's your ping? I'm curious

[proper heath]

I moved to the US. I'm in seattle now.

[plucky sage]

Yeah, I'm going back to SA for a wedding in 2 weeks

[proper heath]

In Wrath. It was 800.

[plucky sage]

I have a french passport so was easy to leave

[proper heath]

When I last played in SA. my ping was 300

It was impossible to pvp

Impossible.

[plucky sage]

Ya, with fibre it's better but still 180 ish

Not great

[plucky sage]

For sure

Unholy DK worked because I could just rot everything

And pets did the work

But still I'd easily miss pet kicks

[proper heath]

For people that dont know. When ur ping is high. As a melee character with high ping. The target isn't where your PC says he is. On the server he is ahead of that position.
So when I had 800-400 ping. I couldn't hit anything as rogue.

becaues if someone kites you. You are always out of range. Becaues that person isnt there anymore.

it was horrible.

[plucky sage]

Yeah, pretty much need to play affli or unholy

[proper heath]

You you either had to be ranged. Or something that respositions them or slows them from range.

well it's good ur in EU m8. Eu takes wow very seriously over there. Lol

those people game for real

[plucky sage]

When did you leave?

I lived in Canada during early wow, had to make a new EU account when I came back to wow during WoD

Haha yeah and nice to be able to walk to and from a bar at night in relative peace 😅

[potent pivot]

You can go full aoe build with arterial precision, indiscriminate carnage and crimson tempest. Or just play a regular build

[potent pivot]

I think so but could be wrong

I’ve had so much of my shit turned off because of all the errors I cba and only use a couple things

[plucky sage]

What do you track teammate casts for? I already struggle with keeping track of enemy casts in the fight, let alone paying attention to those of my team

Just to see team clones/sheeps/tranq type stuff?

[dusky flower]

Imo the amount of addons and shit people track is wild.

[proper heath]

Ileft in 2019 Just before covid.

[dusky flower]

Tracking team cast bars is like that stupid teegcd weak aura that track enemy globals, useless run less your r1 level lol

[plucky sage]

Tracking enemy gcd? O.O when I had quartz I had the gcd bar for my own char and that got annoying as hell, and felt completely unnecessary too.

[jolly sierra]

haha how situational to being both from the same country

[plucky sage]

Wew, good for you maybe? Idk. It was fucked in SA but America too.

[old dome]

Im utterly garbage on sin in pvp. I wanna try get 1.8k in SS for elite set. Shall I stick to it?

[plucky sage]

Yeah 😅 not that many of us

[plucky sage]

It's the only way.

[dusky flower]

keep pracin. the cr right now is super deflated atm

[plucky sage]

Volume, and practice, and if possible vod review your own gameplay to look for repetitive mistakes

[old dome]

Yea was my initial thought. Keep grinding (obviously I cant be good at it at this point). But I played way better in SL as outlaw and sub.

[dusky flower]

subs on the come up right now. and outlaw hurts to play

[plucky sage]

Assa feels so much easier for me than the other 2. I main outlaw in PvE but in PvP it just did no damage

[dusky flower]

feels bad to ramp up and then max dmg a clothie for 60k LOL

[plucky sage]

If even that 😅

[old dome]

s4 of SL outlaw was poppin

[dusky flower]

yeah thats like the heaven opens. and you parted the sea for a burst

[plucky sage]

Granted my gear has improved since the time I was trying outlaw but sheesh

[plucky sage]

So I hear

[dusky flower]

outlaw was free 2.1 with a healer lol

[plucky sage]

I couldn't play SL, I quit after a month I fucking hated it

Anima, covenants, oribos, maw, all that shit just made me want to gouge my eyes out.

The zones also felt like shit

[old dome]

Was bad. Hopefully the new ring wont be anima/power creep rng.

[dusky flower]

fuck the maw lol

[plucky sage]

Doubt it, the backlash from all the players would be absolutely insane haha

After this comfy af DF

[dusky flower]

i did like the pvp in korthia that, the lack of flying mounts is fun for wpvp

[plucky sage]

I've got 5 level 70s, don't feel bad at all when I ignore them for weeks

[plucky sage]

I'm enjoying surging through a Dragonrider and dismounting him

I think that's the coolest mechanic for wpvp to make flying less OP

[old dome]

Best open world pvp was Nazjatar hands down.

[plucky sage]

Takes skill to hit the guy

[dusky flower]

im a large world pvp enjoyer lol. i picked up my hunter again just for world pvp.

[plucky sage]

And skill to evade

[dusky flower]

ive been camping on cliffs as bait to knock lol

[plucky sage]

Yeah just dinged hunter today, full honour already because I saved it up while levelling 60-70

So fun in BGs and wpvp

[old dome]

I will try find that guy who plays dh / surv open world atm on yt. He is John Wick when it comes to open world pvp.

[plucky sage]

That'd be fun to see

[dusky flower]

you seen solidarity or whoever it is? hes like the master of hunter wpvp bait kills

[plucky sage]

I'm a bit of a John Wick myself

[old dome]

https://www.youtube.com/@Soullscape

Watch this guy

Never seen anyone like this in open world pvp. He is matrix and john wicks love child.

[dusky flower]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OiTP39dRQd8 this inspired me to dust off my hunter lol

[tame nexus]

I am constantly losing stealth in some Bgs. Is there an item with minor affect or something?

[plucky sage]

Not sure.

My biggest issue is I sap DHs and they trinket spectral

[dusky flower]

they what lol...

[jolly sierra]

300 IQ move

[sharp sierra]

!neck

[lethal roost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1055055765980844093/image.png Lariat can proc ANY gem you have equipped, in any slot.

[jolly sierra]

i wish than lariat won't be that hard to get unless u pve a lot

[dusky flower]

isnt it just crafted?

[copper maple]

Hey, does anyone use GladiusEx here?

[graceful ravine]

i wish gladiusex updated spells for evokers

[old dome]

Can you macro Thistle Tea to trink or offensive cd?

[plucky sage]

He means getting 418 Lariat

[plucky sage]

+16 M+ isn't that hard though tbh

[potent pivot]

Yeah but I wouldn’t really recommend macroing it

You want to use it for energy not just when pressing trinket etc

[plucky sage]

if you're over 2K in SS you can probably easily do 16s

[potent pivot]

I wish gladius in general reset after shuffle matches

[plucky sage]

@jolly sierra

[old dome]

Right true that.

[plucky sage]

sArena enjoyer here

[potent pivot]

Been like 3ish months of this

[plucky sage]

what's the problem with your arena addon?

[potent pivot]

?

[plucky sage]

Like idk what this means

[potent pivot]

You mean gladius or the guy asking about Ex

[potent pivot]

The CDs/trinkets don’t reset after a shuffle match ends

[plucky sage]

nor this

[plucky sage]

Oh :/

[jolly sierra]

i was, 100% will reach it again, but dunno, way too boring queuing for some rejects and stuff like that

[plucky sage]

so if they trinket in previous game still shows it's on CD in a new one?

[jolly sierra]

does it drops in chests?

[plucky sage]

that sucks

[potent pivot]

Like it acts like all 6 matches are one big arena game and doesn’t reset at the beginning of each match

[potent pivot]

Yeah, you just gotta know they haven’t pressed it

It’s not a huge issue

[plucky sage]

ah yeah it's a grind at first. I had to work my way up, if I did a 2++ I queued a 5, etc etc

[potent pivot]

Just weird

[plucky sage]

until I got rio up to a decent level

also made sure to do new dungeons each time to bring up the total faster

[potent pivot]

Can’t you also get the items from rares

[plucky sage]

Still annoying, what do you prefer Gladius for over sArena? afaik it doesn't have this issue

[potent pivot]

Yeah I prefer gladius tbh

[plucky sage]

concentrated primal infusion from rares? or spark

[potent pivot]

The shit for crafted items

[plucky sage]

well sparks to craft them can drop from rares

but concentrated primal infusion is only from +16 chests

or Mythic raid bosses

[potent pivot]

Ah ye

[plucky sage]

or 2400+ CR arena wins I think

[potent pivot]

Yeah

I knew it dropped from those

[plucky sage]

but yeah for me it'd be WAY easier to get from m+ than the other 2 options

[potent pivot]

Just haven’t killed a rare in ages

[jolly sierra]

2400 is excessive, 1k6 at + is def easier

[plucky sage]

I got a spark the other day but no idea from where

just saw it in my bags

[potent pivot]

I think it also drops more often from m+ afaik

But still a decent bit of farming

[plucky sage]

have you done HC raid? you could farm mythic eranog and terros for a few weeks

they're easier than HC Rasz

[jolly sierra]

nope

[plucky sage]

ah

[jolly sierra]

my computer is shit

so i cant do too much stuff

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=66847/vault-of-the-incarnates-fury-of-the-storm-eater

what about this quest?

[plucky sage]

mine too xD I get 10fps at valdrakken fountain, have to lurk on the outskirts of the city

in raid I get like 20fps

[plucky sage]

that's just ilvl 405 upgrade, can get it from LFR rasz kill

I'm 7/8 HC VotI but all been through pugging, and struggling to find an HC kill on Rasz :/

[jolly sierra]

can join easily raz at HC

in my server a run costs 100k

im very shameless with PVE, so i dont care about boosts there

[plucky sage]

lol, I refuse to pay

but I'm wowheading it now, I don't think you will get the concentrated infusion from just 1 HC kill

So yeah, can't get it from HC rasz

you get the primal focus from +16 chest and Mythic raid bosses only, and need 10 of them for 418 infusion

[jolly sierra]

sounds ridiculous

but seems like is the reward

[plucky sage]

+16 is honestly easy

Idk what your valdrakken fps is, but if its 10 like me you can do M+ and raid

[jolly sierra]

100k gold is easier, i farm the gold in just a moment

[plucky sage]

but you won't get it from HC rasz

or you're doing it for entry ticket to mythic first bosses?

[jolly sierra]

lemme see something better

i'll screenshot the quest

and we will see if indeed is the reward

[plucky sage]

I clicked the link, that quest can be completed on any raid difficulty, and you get the smaller, 405 infusion. Primal Infusion. The one to upgrade to 418 is called concentrated primal infusion

[wintry dew]

concentrated comes from mythic raid kills and +16 and upwards m+ dungeons

[plucky sage]

but yeah send the SS I'm curious if there is an HC quest. I turned the quest in for my normal Rasz kill and just got the baby 405 infusion and don't have a quest for the 418

[wintry dew]

there are no HC quests other than the skip quest

[plucky sage]

what's the skip quest?

to skip the dragon intro phase?

[wintry dew]

a quest where you kill diurna 3 times and you'll then be able to enter the raid, kill just the 1st boss and then skip all bosses directly into diurna

so boss 1 --> boss 7

[plucky sage]

ah I see

[fierce laurel]

Every raid has a quest that lets you skip to the end once you clear it enough.

[plucky sage]

yeah I've killed diurna 3 times but still only have 1/3 on the quest. I think I need to be doing staff mechanics to get credit

[wintry dew]

^

nah

you need to loot the boss

xD

[plucky sage]

that's weird

or is it heroic only then?

[wintry dew]

no

there are 3 quests

[jolly sierra]

yes, is the concentrated

fuck

[wintry dew]

one for each difficulty

[plucky sage]

oooh

fuck

[wintry dew]

you get it as soon as you enter the raid

[plucky sage]

I need to look into that

my quest been on 1/3 since my first normal kill

[wintry dew]

"get it" not quite, you need to talk to kalegos (?) and accept it

[plucky sage]

and since that time I've cleared normal several times and killed her in HC too so maybe it's bugged or something

[wintry dew]

doubt it

if you have the normal raid quest, you must loot, like literally click on her corpse

in 3 different weeks

same for HC

and eventually, same for mythic

[jolly sierra]

well solved

my former pve homies from WOD will help me w that

[wintry dew]

with killing raz for the quest?

[old dome]

Vers/mast BiS stats as sin right?

[wintry dew]

yes

#pvp-faq

most of the FaQ are there

[old dome]

Running crimson gladiator dagger mh and Drakebreaker's shiv oh.

[celest nexus]

was sub rogue buffed or smth? I see tier lists where it’s pulling ahead of sin

[wintry dew]

Do tier lists really matter?

[plucky sage]

hmm. Find it weird that I'd forget to loot her corpse that many weeks in a row. Maybe I finished the normal quest then, and my HC quest is on 1/3 only. That could be it

and maybe my group just like to reclear the entire thing rather than use the skip

[wintry dew]

You can check if thats the normal or hc quest

[celest nexus]

no ofc not but I haven’t logged in the past 3 weeks and wondered why the shift

[wintry dew]

nah nothing changed

[celest nexus]

As 3 weeks ago Assa was S tier and sub C tier

[wintry dew]

rogues started playing sub xD

bcs nothing really changed

[jolly sierra]

assa is still high

[wintry dew]

@potent pivot you might help with these PVP questions better than me

[jolly sierra]

just ppl wanted to run sub cuz maybe felt more comfortable

but assa is still stronger

[wintry dew]

sub solo shuffle ive heard its huge if you manage to get trinkets b4 your big go where you can just duel oneshot the guy

[wicked rampart]

Well depending on when he last played, 3 weeks could have been pre 4pc nerf as well

Which was the beginning of the larger shift of people actually trying sub

[jolly sierra]

can confirm too, is disgusting

[wicked rampart]

But it's been good the entire time, sin was just giga broke so why not play that lol

[jolly sierra]

tbh the 4p nerf is unnoticeable, and a 3k guy here checked the set wasn't nerfed at all

[celest nexus]

I hit 2.1k 3 weeks ago and really wanted to push 2.4k but I can’t stand 30min in queues

Nothing really changed about that, right?

[wintry dew]

right

i mean at 2.1 i believe queus get a bit faster

like 10-15 mins

[wicked rampart]

Queues seem to be all over the place still tbh

I can go from insta to 30 min+ to insta again in 3 consecutive games, it's still probably just entirely dependent on the healers queueing at the time

[wintry dew]

it is fun tho playing at 2.1/2.2 mmr, and you get queued into 1.8 healers

[jolly sierra]

can u tell me about the lariat procs?

but the stats

themselves

[wintry dew]

Its not common in pvp

i know the specs channels have a command to show a list of gems + what stat they proc

[jolly sierra]

it is in the pvp faq tho

but not the exact amount

ah nvm

250+

per proc

[waxen meteor]

i just read a post of Ret in PTR

pff

it seems Ret is a fake melee spec

all melee skills have range between 11 yrd to 23 yrd

[jolly sierra]

XD

sounds like surv

[stable urchin]

how do people oneshot in duel? i rarely do enough damage to kill from full

[velvet wagon]

SS so hard man

i sap people and my team just afk

[wintry dew]

I don't know for sure the full combo but it's something along this lines: get trinket, no stun DR, full kidney into duel, big CDs, do the dance macabre or whatever it is called to 3 stacks, coldblood --> sec tec

[waxen meteor]

What you guys use for shoulder if you use only 2 set

pfffffffffffff, i just realized i am so dumb

i used the intelligence enchant for leg till now

i thought the fierce armor kit is only for certain commercial skill

[wintry dew]

You can also buy that one from the AH

[waxen meteor]

yeah i know it now

fuck

[wintry dew]

the int enchant didnt help at all, int isnt working!

😛

[waxen meteor]

it does come with 100+ stamina

so...

that's why i was using it

now i just feel too dumb

[wintry dew]

its fine. most people dont even know there is a leg enchant available

so you were only half wrong

#perspective

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[waxen meteor]

[plucky sage]

does no one armory check to see whats what?

[hoary bear]

I only have like 4-5% haste on my rogue.. is that a problem?

[plucky sage]

for pvp as assa? no

dotting everyone up and tea is more than enough energy regen

[waxen meteor]

For Sin/Sub no

Honestly, I removed some haste, like feeling zero difference

That's probably also why the battle master is even better than the haste + primary stat trigger one

because battle master has primary stat as constant lol (lower amount but constant)

[hazy pewter]

dumb question, anyone have any idea what would cause me to cast blind at a near target in range instead of my current target

[waxen meteor]

when your target is cleared

check if you accidentally cleared your target or you are using some macro with clear target

[hazy pewter]

for example I was just about to blind a warlock and it blinded his pet that I never once targeted

and he was an orc

and it was just the normal blind keybind

[waxen meteor]

i am not sure why orc is a factor here, but cast skills on closet thing mostly happen when you currently don't have a target

[hazy pewter]

because night elves can meld

which can cause you to lose your target

(though hes a lock so yknow)

its happened to me on 3 separate occasions now and I don't understand what's causing it

[waxen meteor]

never happened to me sorry

[jolly sierra]

try to record urself and show us

[waxen meteor]

did hpal in 3 days

need to finish weekly mission for arenas

swap to ret for quick finish

and play rogue again, it feels so good

[jolly sierra]

i need to push w rog again

but the pally is priority RN, is very close to elite xmog

so can sit while goes reworked

[hoary bear]

oh my f... god

I just realized watching my vod.. that I dont use rupture like at all

ROFL

[jolly sierra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/11dlpwy/wow_soloq_rigged/

KEK

BRUH

[wintry dew]

Was about to ask if sub or assa, but that actually pumps on both specs

[jolly sierra]

this post is gold

[hoary bear]

assa

[wintry dew]

Brooooo

[hoary bear]

im the worst rogue in the world

[wintry dew]

You gonna pump hard now that you realized the mistake

[jolly sierra]

yeah

[hoary bear]

i think so too

hahaha

[wintry dew]

So let's go man go queu and rupt+garrote everything that walks

And paladins.

[jolly sierra]

we need more paladins

[wintry dew]

My ret friend wants to play too

But he loses rating and braincells after every SS

[jolly sierra]

i was bullied by my total round

[wintry dew]

I believe he doesn't talk anymore, he just yells Tchuuutchuuu

[jolly sierra]

but ppl doesn't understand the spec is in the shit

[wintry dew]

Because he is obviously the train (target)

[jolly sierra]

and u need to effort twice the habitual to actually play

[wintry dew]

Yes

[hoary bear]

Im watching a vod right.. and in the vod I check my details damage meter and i see 0 rupture.. it was legit saw 1 end of movie soundtrack

[jolly sierra]

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[wintry dew]

LOOOOL

Part of the learning is realizing our mistakes brother so you just realized you can now kill people

[hoary bear]

hahaha yes

[wintry dew]

Rupture also gives you more energy ticks, so you can literally press your keys more often

[jolly sierra]

i wanna be called Crusader3455 w my ret

[wintry dew]

LOL

How's your table / keyboard doing?

[jolly sierra]

who

[wintry dew]

Kinda confused

Isn't crusader something the guy who pvps as holy(?) And rages a lot?

[jolly sierra]

yes

[wintry dew]

Then what's with the "who" xD

[jolly sierra]

i thought u were asking me for the keyboard

lol

[wintry dew]

Oh nooo

I was jokingly asking how were your table and keyboard doing, because you know, crusader 3455 smashing stuff

[jolly sierra]

yeah

when he is saying U ARE SO BAD

[candid condor]

[jolly sierra]

uh oh what now\

[candid condor]

You said the word

[jolly sierra]

yeah, quoted the guy

[candid condor]

Just be careful mkay

[jolly sierra]

sorry, bad example to quote

[candid condor]

[jolly sierra]

[wintry dew]

Legit police vibes right here xD

[jolly sierra]

see, this guy miestro is a jinx

[vocal surge]

[dense sluice]

[jolly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cops-police-sirens-catching-crminals-what-you-gonna-do-gif-22472645

[hoary bear]

how and when do you guys make use of shadowmeld into stealth macro as nightelf rogue?

[potent pivot]

[potent pivot]

Whenever you want to restealth or get a free improved garrote out etc

[hoary bear]

ok my problem is often times my stealth breaks instantly

i probably need to cloak first

oh and whats the fastest way to get a 4 pc?

[worthy crag]

when ur about to hit with double chaos bolt or glacial spike

[potent pivot]

If you’re not going to do pve then you just need to do the catalyst weekly quests

Then you can convert conquest gear into 4pc

[jolly sierra]

crap always get the bad matches w the ret

now was a demo/lock/devoker in blade's edge

[hoary bear]

catalyst weekly quest mhh ok

[potent pivot]

Yeah. You know which one that is?

[sullen umbra]

does anyone have issues with the enemy cd weak auras not showing up?

it literally just shows like skyfury totem

[harsh steppe]

so i like this wa out of all listed in the faq, but why is shuriken storm in the list?

[potent pivot]

Those WAs are geared more towards pve

[harsh steppe]

ahhh that makes more sense

[potent pivot]

We could ask the author though if you’re still curious

Because I have no idea tbh

[harsh steppe]

for pvp there's just really no script is there, all reaction pretty much?
i've pored over the rotation pages linked & having a hard time customizing my ui towards a super simple script that combines opener & sustained, but i think it's just all reaction at this point right?

[potent pivot]

Yeah there’s not really a script

Your opener rotation is somewhat scripted, like the abilities you press to do dmg. But things can change at the drop of a hat in pvp

[tame rivet]

I love that my time spent in shuffles with DHs means teaching people that 1 autoattack interrupts sight and lets me sap and roam in peace

[hoary bear]

i googled it.. it seems like i need people for that.. does it take long?

I need how many charges for one piece transformation?

[potent pivot]

1 charge each

[hoary bear]

wow

[potent pivot]

you just go start the quest and do group content

meaning pvp/m+/raid or even the world boss iirc

[hoary bear]

i only need 3 charges then

[potent pivot]

[hoary bear]

sweet

[potent pivot]

that's 3 weeks tho

[hoary bear]

wait

I think its account wide

so I could get charges on diff chars

and use them on one?

[potent pivot]

that isn't how it works exactly

so

you do it on your main, and then your alts automatically have the same charge

[hoary bear]

ohhh

but thats also cool

[potent pivot]

but you can only use charges on those chars you can't transfer them

yeah it's still nice

[hoary bear]

k now im at abover 800 rank since I use rupture

lmao

[raw oak]

what rating in solo is considered "decent", "good" ? and very good ? asking as a sub rogue

[potent pivot]

that's a really subjective question tbh

[raw oak]

lets say very good are the top 10%, good top 25%, hope that helps

because I feel like for each spec, a rating might mean something completly different

[harsh steppe]

so if i can't shadowstrike i should always try to get a manual slice & dice in correct?

[raw oak]

not only between different classes, but also specs within a class

[potent pivot]

i mean you might be able to look those numbers up

but i think even xunamate stops at a certain #

[raw oak]

I tried, the only way is to manually count the number of people on the ladder no ?

yea

all I really need is the amount of players that played at least 50 solo shuffle, then i'll be able to make my math

[potent pivot]

typically the way the other brackets have worked in the past is roughly 1800 is median skill level of the populous

[raw oak]

yea, but isn't solo highly inflated

[potent pivot]

doesn't matter that much

the other brackets have been more inflated than shuffle is rn in the past

[raw oak]

I see

1.8 is a decent player then, 2.2k+ is good, 2.8k+ very good and 3k geniuses, sound fair ?

[potent pivot]

huh?

[harsh steppe]

because of premeditation

[potent pivot]

i'd probably say more like 1800-2100, 2100-2800, 2800-3300

[potent pivot]

slice n dice isn't super important

but yeah kinda

[harsh steppe]

ah ok tysm

[potent pivot]

outside of shadow dances you want to be just casting finishers when you can so that you can get cdr to reset dance charges

so if you're able to just stay in and 'pve' then you'd backstab or shuriken storm to build combo points

and you'd be spreading ruptures, eviscerates, slice, etc

[harsh steppe]

ahh ok

i will go ahead and just relax then & just try to mainly focus on this rotation first then i think
anything i should change in that rot? or is that still good @potent pivot

[potent pivot]

roughly yeah

[harsh steppe]

and when it says shadowstrike, it means to vanish so that i can shadowstrike right?

[potent pivot]

no

it would say to press vanish if you were supposed to

[harsh steppe]

well that explains 99% of my recent losses then lol

[potent pivot]

vanish is mostly a defensive cd

when you press shadow dance it allows you to use shadowstrike for it's entire duration

[harsh steppe]

ahhhhh i forgot about that ok tysm ❤️ really appreciate you

ugh last question for today i promise
where is smoke bomb in the burst rot? before kidney or buffs?

[potent pivot]

typically right after kidney

but if you're using all of your CDs then you probably don't need to use bomb to get the enemy to trinket or trade something

can use it for a raw shadow dance/symbols burst window afterward

can use shadowy duel the same way, or you can use either of them defensively as well

[harsh steppe]

ahhh so that's why they didn't include it then ok tyty

[jolly sierra]

question, how relevant is /cleartarget in macros?

[potent pivot]

for what exactly

[jolly sierra]

in focus macros

[potent pivot]

idk earlier in the expansion some focus macros didn't work at all so you had to add it

[jolly sierra]

i see, i blinded a guy and was the main after pressing the buttons

[potent pivot]

i've seen some say it's been fixed but i haven't bothered looking tbh i still have mine that way

if you're 100% sure you pressed the right thing then try adding the cleartarget lines to it

just add /cleartarget to the top and /targetlasttarget to the bottom

[jolly sierra]

lemme see again

[wise breach]

Meh, at this point just remove it and give us other PvP talents worth a damn

[vocal surge]

finally

a buff

thats a start

after all these years

[jolly sierra]

this is very good

[wise breach]

It's not much, just like last time

Might be 10k-ish hp?

[vocal surge]

15k

its like 1.9k stamina ye?

[jolly sierra]

1,9k yeah

[vocal surge]

ye

thats another 15k hp

looks big on paper but thats a drop of water

[jolly sierra]

:/

[vocal surge]

also that Dispatch damage modifier is small

but its something atleast

[jolly sierra]

the thing is

why there are not any ele nerfs yet

[tawny kestrel]

ele doesnt rly need a nerf

its good but not a problem

[jolly sierra]

are u sure with not all that RNG dmg from nowhere?

[tawny kestrel]

its just a strong class

nothing that needs a big nerf

[jolly sierra]

and what about rog shiv? xd

[vocal surge]

keep general shiv

look at sin shiv instead

[jolly sierra]

hemotoxin i say ofc

[tawny kestrel]

what do u mean

it should just be removed at this point

[jolly sierra]

hemotoxin

nerfed by 5% this time

[tawny kestrel]

ye, lucky thats the only nerf to assa

[jolly sierra]

yeah

[graceful ravine]

That’s not even worth taking

Lol

RISE OF THE PIRATES??

[vocal surge]

The Golden Age will return again!

anyone on outlaw atm?

ingame

[jaunty mirage]

lets hope not

[vocal surge]

Lets hope it happens

[jolly sierra]

sounds like hemo is a flex spot now

[fierce laurel]

Amazed nothing to disc.

[proper heath]

We are fine

[wise breach]

I guess also that Shiv can't be dispelled by poison cleansing classes

Could see dropping it for Maneuverability in some cases now though

Previously you'd normally drop Bomb if you also needed Dismantle

[jaunty mirage]

tbf its probably the most miserable of the 3 specs to play into when its good

[vocal surge]

depends on what you mean

[jaunty mirage]

true

[wise breach]

Facing S3/S4 Outlaw as Assa was miserable

Evasion every 30s, fuck that

[vocal surge]

S3/4 Outlaw was because of conduits, legendary and set

I have a video posted not too long ago showcasing Prepared for All reducing my Evasion's CD by 1min in 10s

because of all the dodge procs

Combine that with free CDR from the Outlaw set at the time firing a 7cp BTE every 6 pistol shots

much faster cp generation from dumbed down rotation and blunderbuss

and you had a really fast Evasion back up

Vanishes pretty much free due to combo point generation

and mikanikos aving you from certain death w. auto phialing when dipping under 35% hp

[jaunty mirage]

damage profile is def kinda similar to assa

[vocal surge]

there was also the amount CC duration reduction from Mikanikos' passive combined w. the relentless brooch

[jaunty mirage]

yeah

[vocal surge]

but ye, it was mainly the covenant legendaries and set bonus combined that dumped down Outlaw to a 3 button rotation

Spam SS, get Blunderbuss Proc? Pistol Shot (ignore Opportunity proc)

[jaunty mirage]

whats different about df outlaw

[vocal surge]

The rotation is a lot more complex than Shadowlands Outlaw

and you can destroy Outlaw's dps profile with a few well placed CCs

W. the current build

Ambush (HO proc) --> Dispatch --> FTH Opp Pistol Shot --> Audacity Ambush (HO proc) --> Finisher

[jaunty mirage]

thats all rogue specs though

[vocal surge]

not really

Outlaw really suffers hard

when you do cuck their window of dps

their dps profile is like a line that slowly curves down

if you stop the start, it takes them far longer to setup

especially if you drop their Audacity / Fan the Hammer opportunity window

then its rng hell for 5 - 13 sinister strikes

before they're able to do damage

as long as they maintain that loop of Audacity and Opportunity procs

they do good damage

if you break it or they have really bad luck

they dont do damage

Opportunity lasts 12 seconds and Audacity i'll have to relook

[jaunty mirage]

yeah makes sense

id say sub falls under that category still

[vocal surge]

makes sense

[jaunty mirage]

but yeah once assa gets dots up you can still do 20k dps while fully cced

[vocal surge]

yep

[jaunty mirage]

most fun part of learning sub was finding out you could get aoe feared during duel

[vocal surge]

Im working on a Outlaw build that could potentially cycle through the bad rng or downtime that HO/GSW has

[jaunty mirage]

by someone not in the duel*

[vocal surge]

People can aoe heal through duel as well

[jaunty mirage]

yeah i didnt know that as well until it happened

[vocal surge]

that reminds me

they should bring back stamina for Enduring Brawler so we can live up to our class fantasy

[fierce laurel]

Duel is really just single target smoke bomb.

[vocal surge]

yee

theory moment

two monitor for arena partner

[jaunty mirage]

yeah ive adjusted to just trying to isolate people more before i use it

[vocal surge]

you stream so he can watch on 1 monitor

and play wow on the other

you shadowy duel

and he AOEs the air where enemy is at in Shadowy Duel

[jaunty mirage]

hahaha

[vocal surge]

while CCing enemy healer / partner

[jaunty mirage]

sub is def way more fun than i thought it would be

much easier to get angry if im playing shuffle though

you can get boned by your teammates way harder

[vocal surge]

yep

subs really setup based

[jaunty mirage]

yeah

i mean its fine a lot of times, cause you can kinda just set everything up yourself

but you def have to like beg people not to stun certain targets and stuff

[vocal surge]

yep

[jaunty mirage]

and the arms wars will def still do it

[vocal surge]

one small issue

People cant read

[jaunty mirage]

"please just stun the other dps"

"sure thing"
leaps across the map and stuns the kill target first thing*

i actually start on my mount if im with a warrior or dh

because i need to get across the map before they do or else i cant sap anything lmao

[vocal surge]

ye

they should really do something to punish warriors for running way ahead of the group

and hard los their team

[jaunty mirage]

main character class

[vocal surge]

yep

[jolly sierra]

i def would stop switching target in shuffle

even if a target is low hp cuz the dps doesn't realize when to switch

[vocal surge]

I had a weird SS game at 1900 rating where the other dps was constantly switching targets

when the target we were just killing was low on hp and without defensives

[jolly sierra]

i changed target to the crappy hpal we had against after bubble

bursted, the other guy didn't follow it in time

so i just left a deathmark while the other guy was tanking the 2 other dps

so fuck it, i won't anymore

im just losing hard w rog ATM

maybe is not the day?

[jaunty mirage]

some days are just like that

[jolly sierra]

lemme try 1 more time

if i don't get a good match im out for now

[jaunty mirage]

few weeks ago i tanked my spriest from 2.5 down to 1840 lmao

in basically one and a half sessions

sometimes its not a bad idea to just stop for a while

[livid sparrow]

is it still possible to get the artifact thunderfury?

[jolly sierra]

yeah dunno why happens

maybe lack of sleep?

[jaunty mirage]

just some days you are doing everything wrong

i got most of it back a few days later

shuffle is just big swings

you can gain and lose a lot of rating really fast

[vocal surge]

yes

[livid sparrow]

i trying to take kill 1000 players

[vocal surge]

oh thought you meant to unlock the Thunderfury skin

havent tried the pvp thunderfury skin

[jolly sierra]

yea, that is the outrageous thing about shuffle

it doesn't forgive anything

[jaunty mirage]

yeah

i think its fine that way though tbh

it kinda has to be

playing 6 rounds youre essentially playing 6 games

[jolly sierra]

the thing than frustrates me the most is the fact u need to wait a lot

[jaunty mirage]

yeah

[livid sparrow]

yes actually i wanted any thunderfury but i don't know how to get it trying to watch videos on youtube it's harder

[jolly sierra]

also, against who are u using cheat death?

[jaunty mirage]

you can use it most shuffle games tbh

[jolly sierra]

im just using elusiveness atm

and battlemaster instead insignia

[jaunty mirage]

yeah i mean both are fine tbh

[jaunty osprey]

cheat is bis in every shuffle match pretty much

cant trust no healers

[jaunty mirage]

also true

[jolly sierra]

that sounds pretty reasonable

[proper heath]

Shit

need to push tonight

Waaaaa

[jaunty osprey]

finally got my alt rogue to 3200 T_T

[proper heath]

time is of the essence

[jaunty osprey]

i wanna hit 3300 tonight

[jolly sierra]

carry my rog ffs, im tired of this aaagh

anyways

going to another shuffle, full cheat now

wish me luck guys

3-3

played more relaxed against an arcane and a frost

the problem was a feral who just died in burst xd

[jolly sierra]

question, are u using cheat death even in high CR matches?

without BM or anything similar?

[jaunty osprey]

i use cheat death in every match yeah

i use bm vs windwalkers or sub rogues

[jolly sierra]

cuz they can delete you EZ?

are u not using it w warriors?

[jaunty osprey]

it depends

if it's warrior + caster no

if it's warrior + another melee - ya

just my personal pref

[jolly sierra]

i see

nah, everything is welcome tbh

maybe i was wasting too much without using cheat death

[jaunty osprey]

Elusiveness is def prob better - I just have trust issues

w healers

[jolly sierra]

me too, specially in this bracket

[jaunty osprey]

you cant go wrong with either though

[jolly sierra]

a lot of times u get the 6-0 healer

[jaunty osprey]

if you're facing like non burst classes

[jolly sierra]

and the 0-6 one

[jaunty osprey]

elusiveness is fine

[jolly sierra]

got the point

ty

[sullen umbra]

anyone have any thoughts on why enemy cds weak aura won't work?

[jolly sierra]

dunno, im using mes enemy cds and works fine

[cosmic marsh]

What race should I make my rogue?

[potent pivot]

if you're not aiming to be super competitive it won't really matter

but if you are then nelf, dwarf/dark iron dwarf, or orc etc

[jaunty osprey]

nah def not orc

belf more useful than orc if you really wanted to be horde

[potent pivot]

this season's trinket bonus may not be forever young padawan

[jolly sierra]

panda

[potent pivot]

[jolly sierra]

look, got another 3-3

a lock just afk after losing for 2nd time

was stingy af, no cookie well

[jaunty osprey]

TRU

u rite

[potent pivot]

idk i feel like if you care enough you go nelf/dwarf anyway ya kno

[jaunty osprey]

idk MY MAIN IS SITLL TAUREN

and i care

it's just satisfying to warstomp people

[potent pivot]

_>

leave your kinks out of this

[jolly sierra]

YOU

UR IDEA IS GOLD

TY FOR ALL

[jaunty osprey]

LOL wot

[potent pivot]

been trying to tell you

oh i think we were talking about cheat

[jaunty osprey]

oh

fuck

DELETE

[potent pivot]

LoL

[cosmic marsh]

So I should make a gnome then got it

[jaunty osprey]

no proof

mechagnome

[potent pivot]

just depends on what your goals are

i don't think it's generally worth playing a race you dislike if you're going to be playing rather casually

[jolly sierra]

got touched of death

[potent pivot]

but if you don't care much about your race and want to optimize then ye

[jolly sierra]

triggered feign

and just vanished

then keep fighting

and won the match

lol

[potent pivot]

[jaunty osprey]

cheat death 0 iq

required

[cosmic marsh]

Just want to hit 1800, NE obviously best jsut tired of most of my characters Bering NE. Was gonna make a gnome or human for the lols

[jolly sierra]

makes honor to me, specially when im stressed

ty for all, im happy lol

won 5 with the cheat death

[jolly sierra]

lose all 5 now, cheat death didn't triggered in 3 games

in a row

[waxen meteor]

elite is 2375 or 2400?

[jolly sierra]

2400

[waxen meteor]

ok i was reading hpal pvp

[jolly sierra]

now a drood is scolding me cuz i didn't used deathmark

checked the recount in all games

the macro was bugged

so i didn't xdd

well, last one

will get 1k8 again and go to rest

[waxen meteor]

TBH i think weekend and monday are not good

Random healer shows up

[jolly sierra]

someone said monday was the best day to push

dunno why

the thing i was very very unlucky in this match

to have UI bugged w macros and didn't noticing and to have cheat death not triggering 3 times in a row

i was waiting for the proc to vanish away but never happened

[waxen meteor]

Monday night probably has many alt account to finish 5000 weekly

I think if you wanna cheese it, it's probably good

[jolly sierra]

its ok tho

got 4-2

dunno why, at this step im not complaining anymore

[jaunty mirage]

Well your first mistake was assuming paladin players can count

[unborn portal]

https://gyazo.com/3d09e6e36c1deaba794597f530c98e57

holy shit he's jason bourne

[graceful ravine]

3k but no rank #

sus

[unborn portal]

look carefully

[jolly sierra]

another 4-2

gotta go sleep

ty for reading my 5 stages of grief

[waxen meteor]

so tmr another HP boost?

harder to cheese?

[jolly sierra]

seems like

[jaunty osprey]

it's only like

20k hp

that's nothing

[jolly sierra]

like 15k

[unborn portal]

v weird

it is easier after 2100

[swift moss]

hey guys i've been gone for a month (since end of jan)

has there been any rogue buffs / nerfs?

[jolly sierra]

yeah, we just got one

hemotoxin now reduces 30% healing

[swift moss]

so thats a nerf?

[potent pivot]

yes

sin has had a couple small nerfs

[velvet wagon]

Hardly