pvp

[fading blade]

Then you have rogues in /2 "omg im stuck at 1600" but got 4 set and everything

[sturdy canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-hi-how-are-ya-how-are-you-squidward-gif-16280025

[alpine tinsel]

yall how do we play into demo lock 1v1

[fading blade]

I personally think there's an insane skill cap to rogue (other classes too) but ya sins tier does make it a bit easier, a bit.

[sturdy canopy]

Kick bleed hide run
Utilise smoke bomb as a los

[jolly sierra]

huh?

[alpine tinsel]

what do we do against their original burst? with all the demons out

evasion? cloak? vanish?

[sturdy canopy]

Pretty sure KBS just a magical effect that does nat damage is it no?

[idle field]

Worth a test in that case, but I don't see how it could be a non dispellable poison

[jolly sierra]

is just a debuff

if u are in EU bring me a dwarf to test poisons on them

[idle field]

NA but I can check in a bit

[sturdy canopy]

Big up EU gang

[steel linden]

I'm not gonna be home for a few hours but I can test, I'm 99% sure it's cleansable

[boreal basin]

anyone knows how long shutdown is gonna be?

[jolly sierra]

lemme read stoneform

[steel linden]

It cleanses so many things you wouldn't expect. It's ridiculous.

[steel linden]

But there's always outliers.

[sturdy canopy]

Dwarf meta when?

[steel linden]

Maybe not then idk, would have to test 🤔

[jolly sierra]

fireblood

bring me a dwarf cmon

[fading blade]

i can see it happening real soon, suprised its taking this long tho

[steel linden]

@jolly sierra

[sharp sierra]

i cant handle solo shuffle anymore

i leave stealth they immediately switch on me and train me for 5 mins

[steel linden]

That's deathmark which is removed by Dwarf racial

Kingsbane is gonna be the same.

[warped anchor]

er...is this ok?

wtf

[lyric onyx]

GG vs Luminosity bout to go down

Pika vs Drake

[shy gull]

perfect timing withn server shutdown

[fading blade]

waiting for pika to whip out warrior

[tawny kestrel]

legendary

[fading blade]

3k jesus christ

i havent SS in a week, is it crazy inflated

[steel linden]

So let's play this game again what talent build

[jolly sierra]

it says mechanic bleeding

XD

[tawny kestrel]

BMQAIZzTVWTdeIjpELmb7f1T3STSSCSSSJBAAAAAAQCASCAAAAAAAFk4AtkIJJJKpkkgQSSSCA

just playing this

[lyric onyx]

Rank 2 now raz?

[tawny kestrel]

nah its rank 7 haha

im eu

[lyric onyx]

Ah shit leaderboard not updated

[steel linden]

I was under the impression it was based on dispell type but maybe I'm wrong, idk

[fading blade]

@tawny kestrel you think tier is just OP or is it just other ppl just not knowing how to trade/use kill windows?

[shy gull]

do you only kidney shot kill target? and if you open on melee do you mark death kidney first or get dots rolling first and hope you dont get cc'd?

[lyric onyx]

Oh shit tabards in?

[tawny kestrel]

assa is extremely good haha

[lyric onyx]

See that in the chat

[orchid delta]

healer got mad

[tawny kestrel]

nah garrote too good

[tawny kestrel]

ye was added in today i think

didnt get it until i won here tho

[lyric onyx]

Haven’t got mine

[graceful ravine]

queue into 1 warrior and i lose 2-4

[lyric onyx]

Was winning games earlier

[fading blade]

like nerf good or actually counter playable

[tawny kestrel]

nerf good

[sharp sierra]

are they shutting servers down again

[warped anchor]

aight, learnt my lesson trying 2s when disc priests are this broken lol

[graceful ravine]

lose 2-4 and still gain 3 pts lets goooo

[jolly sierra]

tell warriors to go to hell

[graceful ravine]

fk warriors

[jolly sierra]

happened the same in 2s

literal unhealable

[warped anchor]

disc are doing same dps as their dps

[sturdy canopy]

The secret is to play with one 👀

[jolly sierra]

ahh happened too today

[warped anchor]

i was plyaing my resto shaman

never again

[lyric onyx]

GG 1 - 0 Luminosity

[jolly sierra]

my healer was rsham too

[orchid delta]

Pika saved death for 2nd go

[jolly sierra]

said didn't expected dpriest dmg

just warrior one

and we got deleted

[lyric onyx]

Luminosity pala trinket bop’d so early

[twin burrow]

awc is playing with todays patch?

[warped anchor]

yeah it felt pretty hopeless

[sturdy canopy]

Feel like he does that alot

[warped anchor]

i'll stick to 3s on my sham

[graceful ravine]

https://streamable.com/jt1xif look how fast my lock melted

2 globals 100-0 dead thru dark pact

[jolly sierra]

new FOTM

[twin burrow]

davy u got a girlfriend that coaches you ?

[graceful ravine]

yes she whispers things in my ear every game

[twin burrow]

omg so hot

https://tenor.com/view/so-hot-right-now-trending-meme-zoolander-this-is-epic-gif-26091622

fuck it ima DL it finally

ittl just make me better

[lyric onyx]

GG 2 - 0 Luminosity

That one was closer

[orchid delta]

commentary is funny

kill kill kill go go go go fear fear psy psy kill kill

[shy gull]

you literally have to pay for dwarf racechange to compete rn lmao

[lyric onyx]

GG 2 - 1 Luminosity

Getting spicy

[orchid delta]

Pika went all in. Let psyfiend stay alive and went for a kill.

[spark locust]

are the weapon illusions out yet?

[boreal basin]

does only stealth opener garrot silence or also the lingering empowered one

[unborn portal]

The ones you can use from breaking stealth all silence

So you can double or triple silence if fast

But I usually just sap healer and double garrote dps

[graceful ravine]

these comms are crazy

my god

[orchid delta]

Man, this fear into sap was crazy

[lyric onyx]

Still lost after that

2-2

[orchid delta]

unfortunate death mark into bop

[lyric onyx]

Yeah lucky for luminosity

Good timing for em

[orchid delta]

I mean, both teams are sick

[graceful ravine]

noooo pika

[lyric onyx]

Damnnn

[orchid delta]

idk first 2 games, Wizk dmg was top

[lyric onyx]

Reversed 2 cups in a rowing

[orchid delta]

then for last 3 games Wizk was bottom

[graceful ravine]

drake outdpsing pika every game

cant really tell why, but pika doesnt multi dot at all

only throw ccs out to rogue

[orchid delta]

yeah I've noticed it too

apart from cc, only sits on sp

[graceful ravine]

pika forgot to press ER for most of the games vs lumi lol

[waxen meteor]

Ret yesterday once more?

[graceful ravine]

warriors are the new rets

bring back DH meta

at least those guys can die..

[fierce laurel]

Half the time I end up killing the warrior because they know they can trinket offensively.

Until they can’t.

[dense thorn]

how big is tier for sub in arena? I just realised i took it off due to it being lfr gear but my lowest tier is now 398 (others are 421, 415, 415)

so assuming its worth using again

[warped anchor]

Warriors that trinket disarm in the opener...

[graceful ravine]

queues dont pop for me anymore

shame

[waxen meteor]

So exactly as guessed

And I have seen some double arm lobbies lol

They all came back

Well one of the worse part of equal gear is too easy to build alt

[warped anchor]

On their shadow lands s2 glad mounts

[waxen meteor]

Everyone just gets on meta bus and play

Does warrior has biggest population?

[warped anchor]

Usually yes

At least in pvp

[dense thorn]

i cant seem to find shit.. but is this the 'first day' so i can watch while playing ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43gZBvkHHp4

[potent pivot]

lately warr has had the least representation

[warped anchor]

At high rating sure

[potent pivot]

ofc it's going to shoot up now though

[warped anchor]

Not overall

[waxen meteor]

Yeah tbh last week my rogue basically sees no warrior

[potent pivot]

define high rating

because i meant overall

[warped anchor]

Warrior and hunter are always super popular no matter how good they are

[waxen meteor]

Overall it’s still high

[warped anchor]

I meant every rating

[waxen meteor]

At 1600-1800 melee blend is like 70% of games

[potent pivot]

they're like middle of the pack above 1.8k

[graceful ravine]

looking good boys

[jaunty mirage]

surprisingly not even close

[potent pivot]

good chunk lower than dh

[graceful ravine]

3-0 so far

no warriors

[waxen meteor]

Think you will 60 or 51

[jaunty mirage]

for purely class rep in DF so far its been priests and druids at the top

[warped anchor]

Assa rogue in a lobby with 3 shamans

[waxen meteor]

It looks like a great lobby for rogue

[warped anchor]

Enjoy the free win

[dense thorn]

0-3

inbound

[jolly sierra]

im watching pikaboo guide for shuffle

and damn u can see a lot in the 1st 20 mins

[dense thorn]

lets see

[waxen meteor]

Is it like michael Jordan coach you how to play basketball? Hey only two people guarding me, pass me the ball

[graceful ravine]

3-1 😦

[waxen meteor]

So 51 still valid

[jolly sierra]

like cristiano ronaldo carrying portugal

[waxen meteor]

And this specific time, it’s hard to know what you really want to say 🤣

[graceful ravine]

3-2 i spoke too soon

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

[spark locust]

in KB build does deadly or WP feel better

[jolly sierra]

deadly

[graceful ravine]

this is what i get for being cocky lmao

fuuu

[jaunty mirage]

wait a sec

[sharp sierra]

2800 damn

[jaunty mirage]

did you play classic

dayv

[graceful ravine]

yes

[jaunty mirage]

on whitemane?

[graceful ravine]

yaaa

[jaunty mirage]

hah

[graceful ravine]

what was your char name?

[jaunty mirage]

knifehat

usually camped out in TB or org

[graceful ravine]

good times

[jaunty mirage]

were you in org a bunch?

[graceful ravine]

i had rogues on both factions so i did gank both sides lol

in sw/org alot ganking

[jaunty mirage]

i remember talking to you a lot but i dont remember why or where

or maybe it was just on disc

rogue disc or something

[jolly sierra]

you guys have some addon to max distance inside arena?

it just autozoom when u are in the door xdd

[waxen meteor]

It’s kinda funny they try to do classic for pandaria

Or did I read news wrong

[jaunty mirage]

havent heard anything about that

im sure they will

no reason to stop at wrath if people keep subbing for it

[waxen meteor]

But problem is classic stops at wlk isn’t it?

[jaunty mirage]

classic is such minimal effort for them

[waxen meteor]

Cata is debatable

[jaunty mirage]

tbh id be surprised if they dont keep going

personally i think they will go to legion

[waxen meteor]

Pandaria isn’t classic for most people..

[jolly sierra]

a classic dev walked away few days ago

so dunno about the future of classic tbh

[waxen meteor]

Sure they classic will reach us soon in this pace

[jolly sierra]

give us shadowlands classic

[jaunty mirage]

its more about just continuing with this group or whatever you want to call it, if they name it classic people will keep playing it

[waxen meteor]

I get what you say

[jaunty mirage]

lot of people missed expacs and would prob play them

idk, its basically free money for them

[jolly sierra]

i fkn miss legion tbh

the best xp i've played by far

[warped anchor]

Can't see them making cataclysm classic

[jaunty mirage]

if it was a ton of effort to do these "classic" versions then yeah for sure theyd stop at wrath

but especially the closer they get to retail, the easier these older versions are to implement

[waxen meteor]

the point is it's not classic at all

[jaunty mirage]

doesnt matter lol

[jolly sierra]

u will never repeat the same experience again

[jaunty mirage]

its "classic" to that version of the game

yeah of course not

[jolly sierra]

and casual ppl doesn't understand that

[waxen meteor]

i think it matters, because people play classic doesn't 'stay' as far as i know

it's not like a gang that stays in that time frame

[jaunty mirage]

i promise you if they announce cata classic people will play it

[jolly sierra]

they say "OOOH LOOK I CAN PLAY LK AGAIN HOPE IS THE SAME"

[waxen meteor]

yes there will be, but there will be a significant amount won't go ahead

[jaunty mirage]

its free money for them, no reason to stop until its clear that zero people will play it

i mean yeah

lot of people stopped at vanilla classic too

[waxen meteor]

I get what you saying and i agree from business stand point

but it doesn't attract new people

[warped anchor]

Vanilla classic was fun to level in

[waxen meteor]

or let's say TBC/WLK may actually attract lots of people due to memory

[warped anchor]

Lost interest after that

[waxen meteor]

Cata/Panda hmmm

Why is there another patch now -.-

[jolly sierra]

that is the reason they are so attached

or u never met something which said than LK was their best expansion?

[waxen meteor]

I actually had a pally alt leveling up since months ago

it's currently at level 48 or sth

[dense thorn]

anyone bored enough that wants to watch a vod of my solo shuffle and let me know what i do wrong and right?

[jolly sierra]

in my country LK is popular just because was a lot played in private srvers

[waxen meteor]

and i took tbc time travel for world mission to levle up

[jolly sierra]

already recorded?

[dense thorn]

yeah

[jolly sierra]

go ahead

[jaunty mirage]

classic is not about attracting new people though

[waxen meteor]

man, i don't know how i survived from tbc missions

[jaunty mirage]

wrath probably attracted an absolutely negligible amount of new players

its just about cashing in on nostalgia

[waxen meteor]

it is to attract those mid-aged people with memories back to wow in my opinion

[jaunty mirage]

and promise of a different version of the game

[waxen meteor]

it's not for brand new players anyway

[jaunty mirage]

yeah

[waxen meteor]

by new, i mean those people 🙂

too long to type -.-

haha

[jaunty mirage]

like i said, id be shocked if they stopped at wrath

but we will see

[waxen meteor]

no they won't stop

[dense thorn]

best way to share?

[waxen meteor]

i just don't see real value

[jaunty mirage]

i think legion is where they would actually stop

[waxen meteor]

it's more like free money, why not

[jolly sierra]

download the vid and turn in into MP4

[waxen meteor]

but it doesn't earn much free money

[jaunty mirage]

because of how unpopular bfa and SL were

[tribal bay]

wrath was fun for like 3 weeks to parse in naxx and decimate people in 2s with gargoyle on a DK

[jolly sierra]

if has too much size use an online compressor

[tribal bay]

after that it was boring as fuck

[waxen meteor]

Why? I think both major patches in 3.0 are good

[jolly sierra]

i still recall stampede hunter instawin in mop

[tribal bay]

bad class design

janky raid mechanics

[waxen meteor]

i don't feel so

[tribal bay]

threat issues in any form of PvE content

cant blast without dying

[waxen meteor]

in fact i think cata and panda went on TOTALLY bad class design

because everyone becomes the same

[tribal bay]

panda was based

so was cata

[dense thorn]

oh that does work

[tribal bay]

peak RBGs

[dense thorn]

done 🙂

[jolly sierra]

lemme see

[dense thorn]

go friendly im only 900 lol

[tribal bay]

wrath is a bit cringe

[dense thorn]

no wait

that caps it at 30seconds

hmm

[jolly sierra]

yeah and was just the score window

XD

[waxen meteor]

I enjoyed TBC and WLK a lot.
Cata made me tired, Panda made me quit hah

WLK late stage is not friendly for rogue though

[dense thorn]

is there anywhere to upload it to?

[tribal bay]

in pvp?

[waxen meteor]

yeah

[tribal bay]

i guess you have DKs and arms warriors running around with shadowmourne

its already like that tho

DKs just obliterate with gargoyle and arms warrior zug zugs just melt you

[waxen meteor]

those orc warrior with stun reduction gem swapping shield and orange weapon is impossible to deal with

[tribal bay]

yeah

[dense thorn]

i think i have a solution, give me 5mins lol

[waxen meteor]

same applies for dk

[tribal bay]

its cooked

yeah bro fully agree

[jolly sierra]

sure ill take a shower

[tribal bay]

thats why i didnt play rogue in classic

[jolly sierra]

don't worry about score

[tribal bay]

i played DK and warlock

[waxen meteor]

but it's 4+6 stun from rogue

[tribal bay]

idk i find classic rogue too hard

weird combo points system

[waxen meteor]

yeah

[tribal bay]

class design is fried for me

[waxen meteor]

when you swap the cp doesn't carry over

[tribal bay]

i hate that

[waxen meteor]

i remember there was a time we had a skill even to swap cp

lol

[tribal bay]

i think rogue class design in retail rn is pretty good

for pve at least

i think sub pvp needs some talent tree help

i think if without a trace linked with perforated veins sub would feel good to play in pvp

[jolly sierra]

so is double tap gone?

finally we get rid of that shit?

[dense thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDGWWu2OKRg

should do the trick

[jolly sierra]

lemme see

[dense thorn]

lol rewatching round 2 i fat finger every key other than my defensives lol

[jolly sierra]

alright im watching something in 1st 2 mins

first, shadowy duel is usually used then target already forced trinket and is the kill one

dueling a target when u have a partner make them waste their burst if they are going at the same than u

2, u used trinket in game 2 before leg sweep OOF

lemme see more

3rd, warr is way more tanky rn with defensive stance buff, ranged targets like the ele are way more squishy and struggled against 2 melees

eeeeem

dont walk in mid of arena when u have shamans as opponents

[dense thorn]

^ yeah i learnt that this game

lol

[jolly sierra]

lemme see more

[graceful ravine]

what talents are you using

[jolly sierra]

u did well w the monk

but u can pass through FoF with cheap shot as sub

to do more pressure XD

[dense thorn]

hmm

will log in as no idea how to explain it otherwise

[graceful ravine]

you need to macro kidney and duel together

or be faster in your presses

[dense thorn]

as in kidney then duel?

i always notice there is 'lag/delay' there

thought it was just the gcd lol

[graceful ravine]

duel isnt on the gcd

[spark locust]

ngl this KB build is kinda nice

[graceful ravine]

u should kidney then duel if youre gonna do that

otherwise u give them 1-2 sec to react and cc u in the duel

[dense thorn]

yh makes sense

is the talents im playing

[jolly sierra]

also

are u sure is a good idea to wait for sap fading instead going for kill target?

[tribal bay]

is amplyifying poison or twist the knife better?

[jolly sierra]

and maybe force a trinket?

[dense thorn]

i have no idea

in what situation?

in round 1 i just realised the healer was way out of position so kept him there

[jolly sierra]

for example if u go monk

u can sap priest and go straight to monk cuz they are way too far away

[dense thorn]

and then blind if they trinket

yh makes sense

[jolly sierra]

then the priest would go there running

u blind

then panic trinket

yeah

that

XD

[spark locust]

what enchant you all use on OH?

[dense thorn]

2nd week of pvping really... so lots to learn haha

[potent pivot]

twist, unless playing with a mortal strike on your team

[potent pivot]

2x sophic devotion

[spark locust]

thats what i thought

[jolly sierra]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[potent pivot]

[tribal bay]

they can just reroll surv or bm

and then everyones dead anyway

[dense thorn]

my hunter buddy is crying about that lol

[jolly sierra]

u did well anyways w dmg tho

[vocal surge]

no more one shots 😄

[tribal bay]

when am i meant to use echoing reprimand as sin?

[vocal surge]

or getting killed because they cast Rapid Fire from across the arena

[jolly sierra]

so keep that but consider the talk here

[dense thorn]

enjoying it so will learn, you think i can make it past 1k in solo shuffle lol

[jolly sierra]

sure lol

[dense thorn]

yep will keep learning 🙂

[jolly sierra]

remember

cheap shot bypass everything but inmunities

die by the sword, blur and fists of fury

stuff like that

[tribal bay]

yeah if ur playing as sub

you can but you have to try and pull off miracles in a round

[dense thorn]

im going for 3k score in first season obv..

https://tenor.com/view/joke-jk-penguin-laugh-its-was-a-joke-gif-14574338

[dense thorn]

didnt know this

[dense thorn]

yh i tried ass too but i prefer sub tbh

[tribal bay]

i do some damage as sub but i end up waiting til someones popped CDs and try 1 shot them

idk if its the right approach

[tribal bay]

i like sub too but i think it needs a rework

it feels good in pve it feels kinda bad in pvp

[tribal bay]

could i replace echoing reprimand with cold blood?

im not rly sure how echoing works i think its something from previous expansions that most videos just assume u know what it does

so its a lil confusing on when to use or what anima charges actually are

[dense thorn]

shiny charges

act like full combo points

so shiny 2 charge = full combo

its kyrian from shadowlands

if you want to google that

kyrian covenant ability

[keen portal]

is it worth it to swap from sub to sin right now?

[lucid citrus]

yes

[tribal bay]

yeah im trying to do it

i just cant wrap my head around it yet

i dont know what to press

[keen portal]

@tribal bayI played sin during BFA so hopefully it wont take me too long to figure it out.

[potent pivot]

that'd be highly suboptimal

cold blood is pretty bad for sin and ER is basically the most powerful talent on our class tree

[tribal bay]

so i have to use it on the blue combo?

and then that "consumes" the charges?

[potent pivot]

yes

[tribal bay]

and makes it a 7 combo

[potent pivot]

[tribal bay]

and what do i use it on, envenom?

[potent pivot]

any damaging finisher

it doesn't work on Slice n Dice or Kidney

[tribal bay]

so rupture if i was going for pressure or envenom if im bursting?

[potent pivot]

but works on rupture, envenom, etc

sure

[tribal bay]

and marked for death i should use for kidney shots?

[marsh sky]

did you not watch Shadenox vids Dan?

you got told to watch them

[potent pivot]

yes

[marsh sky]

all these questions you're asking is in the guide

[tribal bay]

wait

i had a look but i didnt see a guide he just had some gameplay vids

[marsh sky]

you clearly didn't look hard enough

[tribal bay]

yea no i didnt

[marsh sky]

just skimmed over didn't you

[tribal bay]

i think last night i was just sick of it tbh

[marsh sky]

fucking zoomers man

[tribal bay]

and got off the pc

im gonna look now

hey man

[potent pivot]

chill lol

it's all good

[tribal bay]

i was born in 96

technically not a zoomer 😄

[marsh sky]

term used for short attention span in my books

not really time born in, even though that's technically the way it's meant to be used

[marsh sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcsAarrVryY&ab_channel=Shadenox

here

just watch this

all answered here

[tribal bay]

easy cheers

love u xx

[marsh sky]

np, I know it's frustrating at times, I saw you ask a lot last night.

[unborn portal]

[toxic yarrow]

SlickRick2013: rogues seem just stupid right now,

twitch comment of the year.

[vague summit]

Is the illusion out for the season ?

[potent pivot]

@obtuse thistle

i actually know another slickrick that was on Arthas about a year ago

[valid trout]

So is Outlaw dead for PvP now with the stam nerf?

Yeah it's terribly suboptimal but it was at least playable under 2k

Should I learn ass or sub now for RBG's?

[marsh sky]

heard outlaw is pretty good in 2s

[valid trout]

It came back alive in DF pre-patch

But blizz does PvE nerfs which ruins it for pvp

[tribal bay]

sub feels good in bg's

whats fastest way to conq cap

[atomic loom]

rated arenas or rbgs

[proper heath]

This new build is sick

[waxen meteor]

which one

[proper heath]

The current bis. Blindside . + regular

It's so insane

You have so many combo points

you dont know what to do with them besides envenom

[waxen meteor]

yeah blindside has been great since launch

[proper heath]

yeah but we couldn't take it without high cost before

now we get blindside + SBS

This is shit ferals dream about

When ferals go to sleep at night. They have dreams of being assa.

We are that dream

I'm just happy with our class 🙂

[waxen meteor]

I also tried internal bleed

it's not that bad

in short burst it's about 7% additonal dmg

[proper heath]

We aren't always killing in kidneys anymore

So it's not important

also it sucks compared to what it used to be

[waxen meteor]

but if we get to choose, blindside surely

[proper heath]

Bro these ambush crits

are JUICY

my eyes

I'm full mongo bongo. With 1/2 lethality and everything

[steep walrus]

asa opener is it garrote twice or garrote mut?

[waxen meteor]

This is still debatable i feel

[proper heath]

No to zold

I tried zold. No jokes I lost like 300 rating

[waxen meteor]

Zold is which one sorry

not english client..

[proper heath]

The bottom

45% extra below 35%

[proper heath]

Garrote rupure MFD kidney.

[waxen meteor]

yeah i mean it's just one point

you can put on 7 energy return

or 500% shiv

or 15% bonus bleeding at closure

[proper heath]

I tested all of this today.

That standard build in your picture

is bis

no changes needed.

every talent point is where it should be

[waxen meteor]

but i use amp unlike others

[proper heath]

I tried Tiny Toxic. It's a meme. And zoldycks is throwing.

oh not amp tho 😄

[steep walrus]

ok so only a 3cp rup to open then

[proper heath]

yep. You wanna kidney before they come out of the silence.

[waxen meteor]

i still like it more, i don;t know why

[proper heath]

I understand you. But we have to make sacrifices.

Alot of our comps dont have MS, if you are solo world pvp . then it's fine. But in Solo shuffle. Wound is generally better.

[waxen meteor]

I am using wound + amp

no deadly

[proper heath]

We win because of our pressure and cc. Not because we did alot of envenom dmg.

Bro....

Deadly is king

Wha... what u doing

[waxen meteor]

i am pika learner sadly i watched his video at beginning of this version

[proper heath]

Lol

oh my lord

[waxen meteor]

but tbh

how much diff are we really talking about

the only diff is the dot dmg

[proper heath]

Yes

[waxen meteor]

that probably applies to 1 person more

[proper heath]

ok think about it like this

As a good rogue, you are always swapping to good targets.

Priest that swapped life, druid behind a pillar etc.

Amp is strong when you can build it up.

But when u swap alot, you cannot build up amp poison

So thats reason 1.

[waxen meteor]

that's the part i don't fully agree

it doesn't take much time to build up

[proper heath]

2nd reason, Alot of the time with rogue, you have to vanish sap, Stay behind to kidney the healer, step away to kick or to los. Deadly is doing its job during that time. Amp is super afk until you press envenom.

[waxen meteor]

now dropping 10% weapon trigger rate, it will be slowlier

[waxen meteor]

but the dot when we are sort of away, how much dmg are we talking about

[proper heath]

About 1.5k per tick

somewhere around there. It's not a huge amount. but if you triple dot. It's big

[waxen meteor]

doesn't sound a lot to me

i mean yeah by trippling that yeah

[proper heath]

This is from a 3 min game

that is 300k dmg thats alot of damgr

[waxen meteor]

dot is 5.8%

[proper heath]

Damgr

[tribal bay]

fuck man

playing solo shuffle as a sub rogue you have to go full sweat just to go 4-2

[proper heath]

Are you complaining that you have to play well?

to win more games?

Lol?!

[tribal bay]

yep

ive been playing UHDK most of the season

[waxen meteor]

when i play DH i feel i am soulless

i am doing something but i don;t know what i am doing

[tribal bay]

i can go 5-1 or 6-0 just pressing 123456

[waxen meteor]

in the end i always do max dmg but i think my impact is actually small

but that probably only because i never watch any DH play

just doing my own stuff

[proper heath]

I wonder if the virulent nerf was big

[waxen meteor]

that's when you use a class never get trained

[tribal bay]

virulent plague is pad damage

that isnt winning rounds

spellwarden and big dps was winning rounds and now spellwarden is a waste of a talent slot basically

SS rounds arent won from rot dmg

[proper heath]

I was busy watching swapsy's games. vs ele . And it looked like dk's were just getting murdered.

I have a feeling dks are gonna get brutalized now .

by casters

[tribal bay]

yeah

DKs need to get used to playing pillars

and they should probably revert the nerf on improved death strike

[sharp sierra]

[tribal bay]

is that raid trinket good in pvp

[sharp sierra]

not at all

[tribal bay]

why are you using it then

[sharp sierra]

i dont have a better one yet

[tribal bay]

honor trinkets worse?

because ive got honor trinkets and that

[gleaming pawn]

Honor trinkets would be better

[tribal bay]

would random BGs be good practice learning sin?

[gleaming pawn]

It’ll certainly give you experience trying to do your rotation and CC while the entire BG is all over your nuts trying to kill you

[graceful ravine]

damn assa solo ladder getting inflated like dh

a rogue at 3224

[gleaming pawn]

There’s a real hatred in BGs for rogues, and I have watched entire teams turn and kill me after I opened when they were busy fighting others

[brittle glen]

im trying to figure out what tier set to go for: pve or pvp? i focus on m+ and rbgs, 2v2s, and 3v3s but i already have 2 set for pve. do i get the 2 other pieces for pve or do i snag the pvp tier set and upgrade it?

[gleaming pawn]

If you plan to pvp even remotely seriously, then go with the pvp set so you have 424 ilvl in pvp

If you can’t end up hitting high enough ratings to make it your bis in m+, then you’ll just eventually have to upgrade m+ gear as well

[tribal bay]

if you have mythic tier then its 3 ilvl diff

[brittle glen]

ahh ight, ty guys

[tribal bay]

my mythic chest is fine but my other stuff is a bit low ilvl

[brittle glen]

can i turn drakebreaker into pvp tierset?

[tribal bay]

also guys do you think learning the assassination pve rotation and plasystyle will help me learn it in pvp?

i think i find sub pvp easier because i main it in pve

[brittle glen]

if its ST pve rotation, then yeah. aoe probably not as much but it might help still

[gleaming pawn]

The pve rotation has little to do with doing damage in pvp. It boils down to making sure you’re bleeding 2+ targets when you can, and dumping envenoms into a target when you can when CC isn’t the priority

[jolly sierra]

yes, did it some hours ago with a socketed drakebreaker helm

[brittle glen]

nice ty

[silent umbra]

On melee are you guys opening with mfd kidney garrote? In general do you try to slot in SND after garrotes and then ER >> rupture? Or get both bleeds up before snd

[tribal bay]

do we open with garrote and then hit garrote again straight away or do we wait?

what debuffs should i track on my plater?

as sin

[dusk spindle]

Yo been testing this build any sin players with 4P want to test it for me?

im not a big math person but 65% bleeds (not including LD ) should be impossible to heal

below 45%

[steel linden]

I wanna die

1597 down to 1510 after a TRIPLE WARLOCK lobby, followed by Arms/Fury/Survival

3-3 and then 2-4

I've never felt so useless than in that warlock game

[gleaming pawn]

Garrote, Rupture, SBS, and Deathmark

[tribal bay]

sweet and i should take the passive poisons off?

coz they're just clogging up the screen real estate making shit confusing tbh

[gleaming pawn]

Yeah you don’t really care about your poison stacks. If you’re hitting something it will be poisoned so it doesn’t really matter. And we aren’t running Amp so no need to even try and game Amp stacks

[tribal bay]

easy

thanks a lot

how can i track hemotoxin?

[gleaming pawn]

It’s built into the Shiv debuff. So if you track Shiv duration then you’ll track Hemo

[tribal bay]

cheers

[warm lance]

Is it a double corrupted headhunter tho

[waxen meteor]

did a 2200 mmr sub lobby not easy to cheese

why do i feel everyone has way more hp now

mage had like 400k in arena with priest buff

[steel linden]

I mean they did change the trinkets

And added like 15-20k health to everyone

[tribal bay]

bro whats with that

i saw a DH in a BG with 700k hp

[waxen meteor]

ok bg is differnet

[tribal bay]

but 700k bro

[waxen meteor]

also some DH enter as a tank

[tribal bay]

fair

how did u go in the 2200 lobby

win?

[waxen meteor]

well i guess yeah?

i didn't do many sub solo

but i guess win rate is not bad so i have ok mmr

[tribal bay]

its hard

i dont enjoy it

[waxen meteor]

Just practice your move 38545380 times and wait for the window

[tribal bay]

thats what i do

have to try hard every lobby to get a win

[waxen meteor]

The WW in my lobby was super good

Only beat him once with RMP on my side. WW exits with 51

Somehow had a super good cc chain in solo and killed the warrior

[jolly sierra]

WW using tier is still good tho

just with 2set can do god's work

[waxen meteor]

i mean overall that ww is a noteacible very good player

he checks my burst very closely

regardless of his move or go, he tries to break my burst first gcd

warrior player, on the other hand, seems more 12345, still does a chunk of dmg, just not impressive

[steel linden]

Here's a dumb question, anyone know where I can find some PVP centric plater frame profiles? Additionally, an OmniBar profile with recommended abilities to track for each class?

[unborn portal]

ye

my boy makes some

theyre goated

https://wago.io/HHTsZFQUd

I use these

[steel linden]

You a hero

[proper heath]

A double corrupted HH , would be a rare.

At least in my experience 😄

Poof

[jolly sierra]

yeah, compared to warrior ww requieres to think

[unborn portal]

I just want

one queue tonight

before bed

pls

[jolly sierra]

dude sleep

XD

[steel linden]

I really need to start recording my games too

[unborn portal]

its only 10pm

but I wake up at 5

[steel linden]

I'm all sad here about a few losses before 1600 rating when I know it's because I played like dogshit lol

[tribal bay]

does anyone here use TellMeWhen

[unborn portal]

no

[graceful ravine]

assa rogue is so fking strong sheeesh

i cant remember the last time we were this strong

[unborn portal]

[neon slate]

but outlaw rogue is more cooler

[tribal bay]

anyone have minimalist WA to track garrote etc on targets

or should i just use plater

[unborn portal]

ya

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[steel linden]

Lmao

[unborn portal]

uhhh

LOL

[steel linden]

LOL

[waxen meteor]

Reported

[steel linden]

"I GOT U"

[waxen meteor]

[unborn portal]

I dont have the link

but thats rupture and garrote

tracker

[steel linden]

"OFFICER STRINGS LESS THAN 30 GRAMS ARE DECRIMINALIZED PLZ"

[proper heath]

wtf am I looking at

My eyes

[tribal bay]

thanks now my computer has a virus and the FBI just showd up

nobody click that link

[neon slate]

does anyone have a TMW for who killed JFK

[unborn portal]

ya hold up

[warm lance]

In most peoples experience its a 'poof'

[warm lance]

[jolly sierra]

mucho texto

[tribal bay]

the thing with sin that i dont understand

like u get 1 vanish and u use that your basically dead

nothing to help u not die at all

how do you not die

as sub u get 2 vanishes and they both shield for 30% of HP

[dull bridge]

killing the other team first

[unborn portal]

scroll above it

went 3-3 and still gained rating

ok time to sleep

[proper heath]

3-3 is usually a rating gane

gain*

[jolly sierra]

3-3 for me is 0

[dull bridge]

also I went back to the old build, sbs too good to pass up for 3 points that have no value when your target is below %35

[proper heath]

You have teammates to help you.

You aren't a tank.

But you have stuns, kicks and disarms to help you survive. You deny their damage, instead of taking it in the face .

[dull bridge]

and i think sepsis stealth spell on the initial use is not working

[proper heath]

rogues have sepsis?

I didn't even know 🙂

[dusk spindle]

well if u get them below 35% its nearly impossible to get back up to 100% hp

[dull bridge]

and if I kill them they die

the point being I'd rather have damage above thath threshold

[proper heath]

Zoldycks is shit

dont use it

[dull bridge]

I wouldn't call it shit

[proper heath]

It's shit

[dull bridge]

the opportunity cost is too big

[proper heath]

if zoldicks was passive

and I didn't have to spent any talent points

it's good

🙂

[tribal bay]

calm down chief

45% dmg on execute

seems pretty good

whys it shit

[dusk spindle]

yea not to mention it can be higher with Shiv + 4P

[dull bridge]

I didn't say it's good lol

shiv is unnecessary though

jsut go SS

[tribal bay]

it porbably costs too many points

3 pts is heaps

[dull bridge]

that side of the tree isn't very good

[proper heath]

3 Points for something that only happens if you're dominating the opponent is not good

I thought it was gonan be good

but u give up way too much

[dull bridge]

I definitely agree

[proper heath]

It makes you very very rigid

[tribal bay]

it should be 1 point

[dusk spindle]

why would we not be dominating in damage we are rogue

[proper heath]

Passive!

Give it to me passive! 😦

Warriors have execute

this is balanced

It's our shadow word death.

[tribal bay]

do rogues need a passive execute tho

i dont think they actually do

[dusk spindle]

no we dont

[tribal bay]

i wouldnt start getting greedy

[dusk spindle]

ZR is wayy over poweerred

[proper heath]

I mean

[dull bridge]

there's a healer on the enemy team?

[proper heath]

I wont say no

if they gave it to us 😄

[tribal bay]

if i lose heaps of SS rounds trying to learn sin

its gonna make it hard to climb right?

once i actually figure it out

[proper heath]

no

you will just blow through the ranks

if u win 5/6 5/6 5/6 you will get to 2.4k mmr before you are like 1800 cr

[tribal bay]

yeah but if i go like 2-4 2-4 2-4 2-4 before that

[proper heath]

LOL

[dusk spindle]

u should have a partner like a druid to cc

[tribal bay]

ill get stuck at like 1600

wont i?

[proper heath]

No lol Just keep queing

theres no hard stuck, if ur winning ur climbing

[tribal bay]

yeah tru

[proper heath]

Just vendetta them

ez clap

[tribal bay]

is everyone going for elusiveness over cheat death?

the 20% DR from feint seems pretty good

[steel linden]

It's way better yes

[pine flicker]

I think it's 10% in arena?

[tribal bay]

is it

[pine flicker]

Still way better than cheat tho

[dusk spindle]

would only play Cheat if its some weird comp like double rogue

[fierce laurel]

I would take it for any 2 dps

[dull bridge]

i play cheat against rets and sometimes monks

[tribal bay]

when should i use trinket

[dull bridge]

all of ret damage is aoe

[tribal bay]

should i just get passive trinket?

[dull bridge]

pretty much

[pine flicker]

I tried to take cheat into a monk and just got clapped through it anyway lmao TOD is so fun

[tribal bay]

yep i cant survive as sin at all

no idea how this is meant to be S tier

in any type of situation

just get 1 shot by about any othe class

just gettin farmed

trying my hardest not to leave early

[dusk spindle]

u push harder

[tribal bay]

nah idk

wheres all the control a rogue is meant to have

dont think its possible to just not get 1 shot by literally every other class

just get bullied by everyone in the lobby

sub feels way better idk whats going on

like u say ur team mates are meant to help

but rly what the fk are they meant to do

[proper heath]

?

What mmr are you playing at?

Press evasion when melee is sending you. Press cloak when you get low vs casters. Ez clappzors.

Vanish when u are scared.

Play cheat if ur bad at feinting .

[tribal bay]

im doing all that

as sin 1500

as sub i can go 4-2 or 3-3 at least at 1700 most games

just did my first que as sin and i went 0-6

just felt powerless

[proper heath]

oh my .

well if you truly do want to improve. and you dont know what to do

Record ur gameplay and message one of us to help you and go through vods with you. find someone u like and is experienced and go through vods.

Its hard to tell you what ur doing wrong without seeing the situation ur dying in

[tribal bay]

just big fat combos of everything

as soon as im out of stealth its like the games over

then people just raging at me

[proper heath]

LOL well... thats unfortunate 🙂

[fierce laurel]

Incase anyone is curious, you can use the catalyst on any piece of gear, not just the set items...
The only practical use I see is turning boots into mastery/verse boots.

[proper heath]

If only I owned conquest boots

😄

but @fierce laurel Good tip. I swear a gear swap is justified in some situations

[fierce laurel]

It’s something only sub would do and only very late in the season if they want to trade 5%cc reduction for a little mastery

I guess sin wants mastery to now

[proper heath]

Tonyferal was playing without cc boots in AWC. I mean it's a good swap.

depends on the comp

Doesn't make or break the game, but it lets me live my full mastery fantasy

[worthy crag]

feel like the meta is actually at the worst state rn

with arms being the way it is

[fluid plover]

How mendatory is 4 set in the arena?

[proper heath]

Not

You can push 2600 solo without it .

But 4 set is really good

[worthy crag]

ends the game in the first 6 globals

"IGNORE PAIN IM FINE" at the slightest sign of focus

[rose iris]

Anyone got shadowstep macro

shadowstep focus

[proper heath]

#Showtooltip
/cleartarget
/cast [@focus] Shadowstep
/cast [@focus] Kick
/targetlasttarget

@rose iris

[rose iris]

should it have kick also

[proper heath]

no

edit what u need. I just copy pasta

[rose iris]

i new rogue but saw focus shadow maybe good

[proper heath]

do you know why?

[rose iris]

quickly swap over if maybe hex healer

[proper heath]

if u dont understand why then dont use it yet.

but thats the macro. Just remove kick part

[rose iris]

would it not be good to use it

to learn

rather then not use it then learn

[worthy crag]

/cleartarget
/cast [nomod,@focus] kick
/castsequence [nomod,@focus] reset=2 shadowstep, null
/castsequence [mod:shift,stance,@focus] reset=2 shadowstep, cheap shot
/castsequence [mod:ctrl,stance,@focus] reset=2 shadowstep,garrote
/targetlasttarget

This is my normal focus step kick macro

and

/cleartarget
/castsequence [nomod,@focus,exists] reset=2 shadowstep, kidney shot, auto attack
/cast [mod:shift,@focus]kidney shot
/castsequence [mod:ctrl,@focus] reset=2 shadowstep, kidney shot, null
/targetlasttarget

this is my swap step kidney macro, or just focus step kidney macro for setups

[long roost]

Morning, question, occasionally I select a new target and shadow step to jump on someone immediately, and I shadow step to my old target, am I just being trigger happy and shadow stepping a fraction too soon or is there some wierd interaction

[worthy crag]

does this have to do with focus step or just retargeting someone new

if ur just target stepping it sounds like trigger happy issue

[long roost]

Just basic target, shadowstep

Figured..

[proper heath]

This can also happen if you have huge delay I think

[worthy crag]

man

it really is kinda sad that the success of my lobby depends on the existence of a warrior

or rather, absence of a warrior

[long roost]

I need to setup a mouse over macro for it, what command would you need to make it so you don’t cast it on your selected target if no mousover

[worthy crag]

I am pretty sure that is not doable

Ive actually tried to implement that about a week ago

Did my research but couldnt make it work

mouseover condition only exists in the positive

i.e a macro condition like "no-mouseover" does not exist

[long roost]

[kind nova]

What happened to assass that everyone is suddenly crying how op they are? Is there a patch i missed?

[fierce crystal]

4 set

and nerfs to others

[whole tartan]

The patch happened, but my Kingsbane + ambush build went from 1.7 million in 23 seconds to 1.1 million in 23 seconds. IDK what people are doing to induce crying.

[fierce crystal]

well

dont play kingsbane ambush

simple :_)

[whole tartan]

So what was buffed to do more or better damage?

[fierce crystal]

ppl get access to 4 set this week

• as I said

other classes got targeted but not rogue

[whole tartan]

So "tax the rich" until the middle-folk are the new rich =/

[fierce crystal]

no

cuz rogue tier

is broken

and dont say assa was middle folks

kek

[kind nova]

Damn ive never played with tier maybe why my dmg is mediocre. How does the catalyst work

[long roost]

Do the quest, each character you have then gets one charge per week (do the quest each week) to turn a set slot item into set piece for that content

So you turn pvp conq legs into set piece that lvls up in pvp

[kind nova]

Cool

[raven cliff]

How do you usually open in SS? Are you the type of Rogue who uses sprint, saps the healer then starts bashing on your target, or do you usually wait for the team to open and wait with the sap until the last moment?

[long roost]

Depends what they do, round one I’ll gauge how everyone else opens

If there’s multiple stealrhers I go for counter engage

But I try to sap a dps for blackjack on the open but sap the healer before we actually hit anyone

[raven cliff]

[long roost]

Some classes can just aoe you out of stealth so a rush sap open will help you make sure you get a good garrotte

And don’t be afraid to mash sap a warrior who heroic leaps at you to try catch you out of stealth

Funny to see them just suddenly drop out the sky dizzy

[kind nova]

any sap spam macro for other stealthies

[raven cliff]

#showtooltip Sap
/cleartarget
/targetenemyplayer
/cast Sap

I think this works?

[calm roost]

I want to get better in arena, for now am shit because I lack in terms of game knowledge is it worth to sub to skill capped ?

[frail summit]

that's the null for though?

what's*

[wraith hedge]

How is the pinned build?

[long roost]

Good, very healthy damage output

I take the kidney shot/ cheap shot dmg from all sources personally but other than that basically the same

[languid mirage]

Good morning everyone

What is the warrior spell that has a white pole that pulls you in?

[long roost]

Spear of bastion

[languid mirage]

Thanks!

[turbid dawn]

What is the best way to minimalize dmg from this while playing assa?

[fierce crystal]

while in the spear u mean?

either disarm/kidney/evasion/vanish

in that order

if they insta bladestorm feint evasion vanish

feint is enough if ur healer isnt ccd

and then u either disarm or kidney of that

@turbid dawn

[tribal bay]

bro ignore pain isnt that good

[turbid dawn]

Yea @fierce crystal, Ty 4 info. I am alyways having Trouble and panic while Warriors using this.

[tribal bay]

50k absorb on a 11 sec cd

[novel kindle]

does drakebreaker 4 piece bonus work in solo shuffle?

[wise breach]

No

[novel kindle]

random bgs?

[wise breach]

You know I'm not 100% positive on that

[potent pivot]

World pvp only

[wise breach]

I think it's just world PvP

[potent pivot]

[novel kindle]

thanks

for catalyst should i go for shoulder, chest, gloves and legs and keep crafted helm and feet?the 421 drakebreaker pieces are just optimal for secondary stats or can i change then for 424 conquest pieces?

Assassination btw

[potent pivot]

Yes and yes

A couple drake pieces are good

OH dagger, belt and wrists iirc

[novel kindle]

thanks

[sharp sierra]

how are ele shamans this broken

obnoxious dmg without even hard casting anything

[uneven grove]

i almost had a 6-0 lobby

then ele decided to rng me with 6 lightning bolt

[turbid dawn]

What "iirc" mean?

[uneven grove]

1 global

[sharp sierra]

how are they even considered a caster

rework them to be 20 yard melee or whatever

[hard compass]

if i recall correctly

[uneven grove]

funny thing is

i started to play my WW today, got 300 rating so far

lobbies were mostly ele, sp, demo if there were casters

u know what i killed? warriors, rets

who was in their team

[sharp sierra]

so you dont train ele anymore?