3 centuries
#off-topic
compact grotto
waxen latch
or do it like jake and drop a feeding frenzy+frenzy SMG on your 2nd run
rocky patio
or do it like jake and drop a feeding frenzy+frenzy SMG on your 2nd run
@soft pendant 
soft pendant
<@415667158903816194> <:MadgeBackhand:960960387044507658>
It has a reload masterwork too
wheat onyx
played 6 games of overwatch
all 6 had people throwing
this time on the other team
great climb today
had a guy lose 1 team fight at the first 30 seconds of the game said "gg" in all chat and then ran off the map for the next 5 minutes
merry orbit
had a guy lose 1 team fight at the first 30 seconds of the game said "gg" in all...
Why
waxen latch
It has a reload masterwork too
oh no, the MASTERWORK is only the 2nd best one
wich is probably better for most content anyway
soft pendant
soft pendant
Sorry to hear 
clever sleet
had a guy lose 1 team fight at the first 30 seconds of the game said "gg" in all...
Repost!!!!
waxen latch
you wanna do GM's or what?
soft pendant
Yeah I mean I’m not opposed
waxen latch
still didnt get my conquer this season because 1 of my mates said "its to hot, i dont wanna play" for the last week now
waxen latch
deepsight doesnt go away if you mean that
you can still get the ones from last season
soft pendant
Oh right they keep one season back
soft pendant
No?
waxen latch
they only "remove" them when a new expansion comes out
waxen latch
no, its expansion based buddy, trust me^^
waxen latch
risen
soft pendant
So you’re saying I can still focus one Austringer a week in a month?
soft pendant
Ok that’s relieving
waxen latch
you can do it until the next expansion drops
seasonal stuff goes away when a new expansion comes out
soft pendant
Yeah i read that Paul Tasso article that was like “there’s honestly too many red frames to get them all, just aim for what you want”
rocky patio
had a guy lose 1 team fight at the first 30 seconds of the game said "gg" in all...
LOL
waxen latch
had a guy lose 1 team fight at the first 30 seconds of the game said "gg" in all...
wait, are we talking about league or OW there?
wheat onyx
opw
waxen latch
dies once 2min into the game while diving the enemy with lvl1 "gg dog jungler, open mid"
waxen latch
this guy then ran off the map for 5 minutes
most mentally stable OW player
soft pendant
Does anyone recognize you in OW?
waxen latch
when my rogue was still named Tryan, i had it happen once that somone recognized me
never felt so important in my entire life, ngl
sinful terrace
3.99 is a deal
dusty scarab
<@326832225838694400> also
waxen latch
why is he playing wow
rocky patio
who knows
waxen latch
kinda cringe, ngl
wheat onyx
brazen eagle
for those that don't want to read much
wheat onyx
DUNGEONS 
brazen eagle
nice
hasty nova
maybe nsfw
Pruuuuudes
livid socket
uldaman 
umbral whale
DUNGEONS <:BatChest:956182519475236964>
still no alpha
tropic skiff
ULDAMAN
umbral whale
tropic skiff
wheat onyx
so true dude
umbral whale
tropic skiff
can't even make new dungeons just old ones
dude so true(i have never felt the love on my mother)
inner wadi
<@290017930425532416>
tropic skiff
I am eating a banana I almost choked
🧐
inner wadi
rocky patio
@inner wadi
waxen latch
whats sugma
umbral whale
<a:crying:669517191065894912>
u just gonna take that shit
waxen latch
(somone has to do it)
waxen latch
boralus>>>>>>dalaran
inner wadi
<@290017930425532416>
BRO
waxen latch
sorry that your city sucked during BfA horde dudes
inner wadi
THIS TRAITOR
umbral whale
does this remind anyone of fang of the pit
clever sleet
So r u rae
soft pendant
rocky patio
@wheat onyx apex when
umbral whale
thats a sick looking dagger
wheat onyx
never
wheat onyx
i dont like brs
rocky patio
we drop whatever the fuck is the equivalent of twisted tower
ashen ravine
rocky patio
dont think of it as a BR
waxen latch
skill issue
ashen ravine
rocky patio
think of it as time with your best friend
wheat onyx
what if we play a good game instead
rocky patio
what if we play a good game instead
it takes two?
inner wadi
rocky patio
we go through marriage counseling together
waxen latch
guy, we play wow, we have no taste in games lol
waxen latch
i wanna see how guy yells at rae
rocky patio
stoic folio
it takes two?
we were here series is cool too
flat scaffold
we go through marriage counseling together
i would pay money to watch that live
rocky patio
LOL
clever sleet
moment
waxen latch
operation:tango is great aswell
umbral whale
ofc the only good looking tier set is druid
umbral whale
this actually matches the concept art pretty well
umbral whale
unlike you I can actually visualize something with diff colors
but besides that, this is the same color as the concept art so
lmfao
they all look shit
waxen latch
i mean, except that the mythic sets also always have some more stuff on the actuall armor
umbral whale
warrior is one of the worst
waxen latch
shit taste mate
pure mantle
@inner wadi 
umbral whale
this is true
waxen latch
inner wadi
<@290017930425532416> <:Thinken:777235539957907476>
get out of here
you’re not allowed here
cringe warlock
umbral whale
I dunno why they went back to designing tier sets around the raid
pure mantle
I can play rogue, I have a lvl 10 named Lamburglar
rocky patio
show some respect Color
inner wadi
show some respect Color
external abuser!!!
hasty nova
cannot believe these backwards takes
stoic folio
external abuser!!!
at least he's not a 65 externals warrior enjoyer
inner wadi
this man is insane
merry orbit
I have never taken a external
hasty nova
ashen ravine
schmock
stoic folio
show mythic set colors
everybody ain't clicker extraordinaire like you zemp
hasty nova
Truuu
umbral whale
show mythic set colors
that literally is the mythic set
color
the sets
are shit
in general
ashen ravine
bullshit
ashen ravine
you think the red flamy one is lfr then or what
umbral whale
this is arguably the worst tier they've ever showcased
wheat onyx
i feel like hataro has said this every tier set
umbral whale
like we're back to cata levels of shit
inner wadi
i feel like hataro has said this every tier set
because he has
wheat onyx
hasty nova
i feel like hataro has said this every tier set
He said this every time you see him typing.
umbral whale
this is betterthan the non class specific sets
umbral whale
ill say that
ashen ravine
according to hataro this is lfr
wheat onyx
hasty nova
The only thing that is is missing a cloak.
Some of the backs of the sets look very plain.
ashen ravine
I mean idk, I havent read a single text but i doubt this lilac shit is mythic
hasty nova
waxen latch
<:reee:585739277921550336> <:reee:585739277921550336> <:reee:585739277921550336>
they forgot you
hasty nova
they forgot you
Fading over here...
hasty nova
he really can't believe that they're all crap
ashen ravine
he do be shooketh
waxen latch
@rocky patio allright, its just "spam EAZ with extremly shit stat gear we give you, grind now" like always
aka, im gonna ignore it
fuck solstice lmao
hasty nova
soft pendant
Solstice is for season level catch up
stoic folio
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1059359.jpg?maxWidth=800
evoker looks like an armor in dauntless
ashen ravine
rocky patio
<@179752119945920512> allright, its just "spam EAZ with extremly shit stat gear ...
I for one am shocked
stoic folio
I guess it just looked familiar cause its a warrior set or something
waxen latch
I for one am shocked
i expected atleast SOME more effort tbh
helps that i always think that solstice armor looks like shit, so dont miss anything
tiny crater
Feels great having a new job
hasty nova
peak solar
stoic folio
Feels great having a new job
where? 
ashen ravine
FASTER
hasty nova
rocky patio
Unused
stoic folio
downtime? what's that 
waxen latch
@rocky patio @soft pendant subsitance+adrenaline junkie funnelweb on banshee
rocky patio
i need the demo+ar smg from dungeon
waxen latch
i mean, those are different frames lol
ashen ravine
its for fights like Lihuvim when boss is out of range for melee
hasty nova
soft pendant
I will play destiny
ashen ravine
dusty scarab
merry orbit
<@193393699319840769> are motorways through strasbourg okay?
Literally got Street in its name, top notch for sure
ashen ravine
but its france
ashen ravine
kk
inner wadi
@pure mantle 
fast tree
!iq
hollow ravenBOT
194: Demigødz IQ Classification: Precocious
fast tree
!newmain
hollow ravenBOT
New main: Subtlety Rogue.
fast tree
pure mantle
<@173847154941493249> <:suske:927365084924215347>
you told me not to post here again
I will respect ur wishes
but also do you speak sugandese
inner wadi
but also do you speak sugandese
ur moam was speaking it last nite
pure mantle
its payback for exposing me
pure mantle
shell sparrow
calm elbow
its payback for exposing me
I exposed myself one time
Court order came naturally
merry orbit
color actually killed jailer after shiennar 
inner wadi
still dead 
pure mantle
still dead <:shrug:792304811323293716>
our jailer kill was legendary, podchamp tech op
median gale
!newmain
hollow ravenBOT
New main: Assassination Rogue.
pulsar trail
unlucky
pulsar trail
you weren't doing that already as sub?
median gale
No smoge
inner wadi
our jailer kill was legendary, podchamp tech op
pure mantle
LOL
median gale
Lmao
pulsar trail
rip to the only useful soulbind NF ever had
pure mantle
True Niya was lame af when I was a chicken
peak solar
Don’t disrespect the brrs
pulsar trail
peak solar
If they’re Granny Smith I like them
pulsar trail
lmao
pulsar trail
you're so extra
peak solar
tropic skiff
https://tenor.com/view/apple-cat-fast-gif-19997541
This is so me
waxen latch
@wheat onyx as our resident shaman main, what do you say about the tree
rocky patio
Forevertotem?
clever sleet
waxen latch
Forevertotem?
we agreed on ForeverShaman
he madge
hasty nova
hasty nova
<@84381524421525504>
tropic skiff
https://twitter.com/animalscaption/status/1549415011960881157?s=21&t=DY64yLYKU_z...
Brooooooooooo
ashen ravine
his deck hasnt won a single round until then
tropic skiff
It’s too sad
clever sleet
That’s what I’m saying
tropic skiff
My pick is @clever sleet https://twitter.com/sbgmarc/status/1374556591899475972?s=21&t=Xv5EUEgVpSfTRFqWC4LSgmPyqZMm4AXAgiRzm9ema_4
clever sleet
Damn it’s an honor
tropic skiff
wheat onyx
torn mural
hasty nova
Zzzzzzzz
soft pendant
why you ignore my bnet message
because i translated it
soft pendant
i also was logged out of bnet actually
didnt see it
i think bnet is stopping my pc from going to sleep at night im doing experiments
crude cave
@raw python this scav had my fucking name on his death note
tropic skiff
raw python
<@115253743993356288> this scav had my fucking name on his death note
good ol head,eyes
ashen ravine
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crude cave
good ol head,eyes
im not usually upset if i die to scav but like
that gun literally 1 taps chest, so i died to desync
ashen ravine
free otter
wind cloak
500 mount achievement while we have 600 since shadowland 😴
soft pendant
when did mount journal come out
ashen ravine
huh
merry orbit
ashen ravine
the ingame journal count is literally irrelevant
wheat onyx
i told u man they are legit going to just spam every class in the game with a party/raid buff
merry orbit
Foreskin totem better, protect all male chars in raid
soft pendant
i told u man they are legit going to just spam every class in the game with a pa...
I also said this
Nice
Also sub doesn’t have one haha lmao
waxen latch
The party buff thing btw guy
They dont want it to be am additional raid cd
Shaman allready has spirit link, wich is the probably strongest healing cd in the game
They dont want everyone to get an additional AMZ
wheat onyx
i think they do thats like the point
thats why every tree revealed has a new dumb external to abuse
wheat onyx
give everybody something nuts
waxen latch
Imagine the deff cd stacking
How would you balance that?
Think that every raidteam does it? And instant kill teams that dont?
So making them good PARTY deffensives is a good middle ground,while still making them good choices for dungeons
crude cave
i mean yeah but then it has to be somewhere in the tree where u always take it anyway
otherwise its like
well, your spec sucks
but your buff makes xyz do 15% more dmg
ashen ravine
you need to have some masters degree by now to build a good raid comp
crude cave
so i guess you're a simp now
hasty nova
crude cave
raid buffs can't be a choice on the class/spec
waxen latch
raid buffs can't be a choice on the class/spec
Thats why i hate the outlaw thing tbh
crude cave
thats obviously a cracked fucking talent
waxen latch
Its so weird making the "group utility" a party only thing
crude cave
even if the spec sucks its worth having
waxen latch
Rogue should get the %reduction poison in the class tree
And replace crew/the poison on assa with something else
Atleas imo
hasty nova
ashen ravine
yeye
wheat onyx
bro thats the point of giving every class some bullshit
"omg u literally NEED THIS CLASS FOR PROG"
"oh wait we have 20 raid spots but every single spec in the game brings something op"
waxen latch
Class yes, but spec no, but thats just my shity opinion man
surreal dagger
oh shit. bliz just saved sub. poisons and bleeds now shadow dmg. get recked rogue specs with utility.
waxen latch
You are a RH CF man, you know how people here work
wheat onyx
if everything brings op shit everything is worth considering
waxen latch
Playing multiple specs? Fuck no, 1trick and shittalk the others is the way
hasty nova
oh shit. bliz just saved sub. poisons and bleeds now shadow dmg. get recked rogu...
Wooooooooo
surreal dagger
surreal dagger
fuck you scuba steve
crude cave
my point isnt everyone having something strong
my problem is having it deep enough in the tree ur giving something up for it
waxen latch
It doesnt matter
In the end, everyone will stack mages or warlocks anway
Like always
Maybe some spriest sprinkled in cus they are OP for 1patch again, and then blizz removes their kneecaps
surreal dagger
balance DN
soft pendant
balance DN
What’s dn scath
hot crystal
Knew it had to be shaman
hasty nova
hot crystal
Guy you play shaman hows shaman look
serene crescent
@unreal quiver did you die
hot crystal
Ye
unreal quiver
<@124465215826821120> did you die
very close
you?
like im understanding why the spanish took a siesta
hot crystal
Kinda surprised vesper totem and chain harvest arent on there
And uh ele shaman raid utility
rocky patio
No
wheat onyx
tf
rocky patio
It’s just grind
wheat onyx
and?
rocky patio
It’s bad
serene crescent
like im understanding why the spanish took a siesta
I had a 5 hours nap and woke up and now I wish I hadn't
lofty pond
the shaman class tree looks bloody massive
wheat onyx
but i want the cool armor
hot crystal
Ooh other thing i noticed is feral spirit is really fucking low on the tree
Like why is a cd ever past the 2nd gate
Seems weird
Since its mandatory
wheat onyx
its not mandatory thats why
flat scaffold
I had a 5 hours nap and woke up and now I wish I hadn't
i did the same today, was so hot i didn't wanna be awake
wheat onyx
pretty sure feral spirits is a pretty shit CD without all the witch bones + tier set + nf lego juicing it up
unlikely, but possible you avoid it all
hot crystal
Not having any cd would probably feel pretty ass even if its not a strong one
wheat onyx
depends who u ask
hot crystal
Yeah fair
lofty pond
Not having any cd would probably feel pretty ass even if its not a strong one
Ascendance is on the same line :p
wheat onyx
the best meme is the ele talent that you either get ascendancy on a cast, or an ascendancy on proc
lofty pond
probably, I don't do shaman much
hot crystal
I mean especially since the same guy made the other 2 shaman trees with spirit link in that nice spot in the middle and fire ele literally in the 2nd or 3rd row
I think the same thing happened for hunter where bestial wrath is in a normal spot but coordinated assault and trueshot got garbage spots
Not positive on that tho
wheat onyx
i mean some trees are just shaped differently
u can point out """problems""" with every tree if u compare it to another tree
is the rogue tree "a problem" because it has no "choice" talents where you can pick 1 or two options?
remote surge
wheat onyx
is the rogue tree "a problem" because its more linear, but also more synergistic than other trees?
all the trees are designed by different people, so they have different personal design goals from dev to dev
i dont think it should just be a hard and fast rule "all trees should give cooldowns on row 3, row 5 should be a utility row" etc
hasty nova
They're not all designed by different people but the girthiness of the tree is definitely predicated on what you can stuff into the tree
For example, some trees have way more plus percentage stats than rogues do
hot crystal
But i do worry that you lose flexibility if the cd is considered mandatory
hasty nova
Whether those are filler or not who knows
hot crystal
Thats what im saying
wheat onyx
but my point is that what if it isnt
hot crystal
If its not then they take away something you used to have
hasty nova
There cannot be a strict rule on how the trees look because all the classes and specs don't share a convenient number of cooldowns
wheat onyx
i could be misremembering, but feral spirits is not a good cooldown without the tier set double legendary setup
its not even a good CD now, its just AR with uptime
hot crystal
I think its only good with certain elements or something
hasty nova
i could be misremembering, but feral spirits is not a good cooldown without the ...
This is the case, but like is the case with many other trees The things you need to make them good are right under feral spirits or to the side
wheat onyx
yep
the end "goal" with any talent tree is to get the capstone traits either way
so making good cooldowns at the bottom is fine lol
hasty nova
1000%
There is literally nothing wrong with there being slam dunk choices along the way
hot crystal
If it hardlocks you to going too far along the node i just think its bad
hasty nova
I mean it locks you into that tree as a specialty for the kind of damage profile you are speccing into
wheat onyx
how is it any different from being "forced" to go into a small node because its equally as powerful as a cooldown
hot crystal
Its actually just like vw on the rogue tree
Sin*
When its really high up you always have to path to it in every situation
lofty pond
There is literally nothing wrong with there being slam dunk choices along the wa...
though there could be an issue if the slam dunk is right at the end of a tree, and you have to contrort yourself into unexciting talents all the way through just to get there
hasty nova
So at some point what's going to happen if you allow things to be too generalized or too vague or too spread out is that you're going to be taking points scattershot, and that feels very badly designed and not very intuitive for the overwhelming majority of people to play the game
wheat onyx
its okay for power talents to be late into the tree
the point of a talent tree isnt to get every talent in the tree
you are suppose to sacrifice powerful things
hot crystal
Obviously not
wheat onyx
and powerful things cost lots of points to get to
hasty nova
though there *could* be an issue if the slam dunk is right at the end of a tree,...
But that isn't the case here, and when it has been the case so far there have been changes to me to trying to alleviate some of that awkwardness
hot crystal
But things that are mandatory should be early
hasty nova
I think if you're looking to do area of effect damage you are mandated to get certain things
wheat onyx
how do you even define "mandatory"
hasty nova
And it should be obvious what those things are
hot crystal
Like what if restless blades was 2 spots below a capstone
wheat onyx
the most powerful traits are going to be at the bottom, and by virtue will be "mandatory"
so should every bottom trait just be move d to the top
lol
hasty nova
hot crystal
A lot of bottom traits are situational
wheat onyx
no?
hasty nova
They should be
hasty nova
If they are situational to a kind of damage or a kind of damage profile they should be at the bottom
lofty pond
things that are mandatory (because too strong) should be flexibly accessible though
else everything on the way is also mandatory
and that doesn't feel good
wheat onyx
this is situational?
what about this?
what about this?
should these all be moved to the top because they are "mandatory"
hot crystal
No... keep it rolling and whatever your other capstone is should be strong enough in the right situation that those traits arent mandatoru
Mandatory= makes the spec function
I feel like your main cd makes you function in a sense
wheat onyx
i dont think feral spirits "makes enhance function"
its literally a button u press, it does nothing to you
hot crystal
Well sure feral spirits sucks
wheat onyx
well thats my point lol
hot crystal
But as a concept i think cds are something that should make you function
hot crystal
So like in my perfect little fake utopia feral spirits is better in some way, doesnt have to be raw power, and is further up the tree
wheat onyx
so stronger
hot crystal
Sure
lofty pond
But as a concept i think cds are something that should make you function
Kinda disagree, not every spec has to have strong cooldowns and shit DPS outside of them
wheat onyx
why are we making cooldowns stronger
i hate cooldowns
i want less cooldowns in wow
not every class needs a cooldown
peak solar
I like cool downs I want them to be stronger and have more of them
Big spicy button go brrrr
lofty pond
If any even semi-viable mage build runs on the talent that makes combustion last shorter, I'd play it 100%
wheat onyx
tired of trying to find a new wow class and "oh wow so the best way to parse is you stack every cooldown together and just blow up adds awesome"
fuck cooldowns
lofty pond
combust is cool, but doing fuckall outside of it isn't
peak solar
Very few things come close in wow to the feeling when u bust
hot crystal
Its true
wheat onyx
there are classes in wow that offer you combust cooldowns
there are also classes in wow that dont
lets just make every class the exact same
every class needs combust
hot crystal
I never said that
wheat onyx
ik
hot crystal
Ok
peak solar
Nobody said that he’s just memeing
hot crystal
Yeah i know but sometimes memeing is at someones expense
wheat onyx
i HATE Cooldowns
peak solar
But it’s very thematic while also feeling great changes the rotation a bit with the guaranteed crit so it speeds up gameplay
Just a well designed cooldown
peak solar
Big fax
lofty pond
my frost mage friend also didn't like how he now is obligated to run the icy veins-centric build. He wants his Massive Glacial Spikes build back
peak solar
Cooldown are pog they just gotta feel impactful
lofty pond
Which is laaaame.
so true
lofty pond
He loved Psychus phase on N'zoth
peak solar
Good example of a short cd that’s a main part of the rotations and feels fulfilling to do
hot crystal
But yeah i definitely see where ur coming from guy its not like i play enhance anyway
If they want the option to skip feral spirit i guess thats cool
wheat onyx
i mean yeah i see where ur coming from
idm being "forced" to take some talents, because like, by virtue of these talents giving dps, there will be "required" traits to go to either way
hasty nova
imagine of FoK was at the BOTTOM of the tree
hot crystal
Yeah i dont hate forced talents either i just think it limits choice if theyre too far down thats really it
peak solar
That’d be odd lol
hasty nova
It would be very odd.
hot crystal
Like there being a forced talent setup for 1 scenario is perfectly normal
wheat onyx
there will be mathematically required talents at the bottom of every single tree
hasty nova
Much like having to pick FoK at all.
hasty nova
We've plenty of space on the left side of the tree to find a place for FoK.
serene crescent
Imagine sub stays the same
peak solar
I’d be happy if there’s a few viable builds and at least some choice between cool talents
hot crystal
Easy fix shruiken storm fok and bf are all baseline
hot crystal
Ct or ct really
peak solar
True rn it’s just 1 build lol
hot crystal
Where the pirate ghost killing spree at
peak solar
I do really like that they’re looking at all the old boring cds tho
Vendetta can stay yeeted hopefully shadowblades next
hot crystal
Oh yeah i think thats nice too
I just hope they can make deathmark not feel clunky
Because how it sounds rn is definitely a bit off
hasty nova
It should probably refresh everything it copies
peak solar
No you don’t I thought it was already confirmed it replicated prior bleeds
hasty nova
What about the prior bleeds though?
peak solar
Weirdge lemme check puns
peak solar
hot crystal
But overhang might be a concern or might be ok
hasty nova
It's one of the reasons that EX is doodoo.
peak solar
Ye just unsure about overhang
hot crystal
I would probably prefer it doesnt have overhang
hasty nova
Yeah that's weird...
peak solar
Like the 2nd bleed just disappears as soon as it falls off?
hot crystal
Yeah
peak solar
I’d be fine either way tbh
hot crystal
But actually we are gonna need to break pandemic or hold for pandemic because of imp garrote maybe
Not sure if imp garrote just empowers the spell or empowers from dtealth
So it might be fine
serene crescent
OT assa chat rn
hot crystal
Yeah mn
serene crescent
And assa chat OT
hot crystal
Mb
peak solar
Lmaooo
serene crescent
peak solar
Kinda just branched off from cd chat
hasty nova
ImpGarrote checks stealth as a factor of the multiplication.
hasty nova
There's no additional spellID, etc.
serene crescent
Kinda just branched off from cd chat
Yeah, cd's nuts bitch
hasty nova
This is the primary reason that I want everything refreshed (maintaining enhancements) and applied by just hitting Deathmark.
If you want the option to override a fuckup or something after the DM use then that should be possible.
peak solar
Yeah, cd's nuts bitch
hasty nova
This allows for a psuedo-intuitive skill check to exist while not annihilating new people.
hot crystal
Another reason im not a huge fan of stacking subterfuge and MA but its like fine and we play around it either way
peak solar
So you don’t want it to snapshot
hasty nova
I said I want the enhancement to be refreshed on use.
So you can extend them past their normal durations.
peak solar
Oh so you want the overhang
hasty nova
Yes but without the potential duration misalignment that comes with independent refreshes.
peak solar
I’d be cool with that
serene crescent
odd kettle
peak solar
Super juiced exsanguinate bleeds with dance crits pls
hasty nova
Deathmark needs to be a few things;
- Psuedo-Intuitive
- Allow for flexibility
- Not awkward to use
hot crystal
Exsang and dance ah naw
hasty nova
Yeah like getting "double" uses out of EX.
serene crescent
@cyan oxide update: chip shop shut
hasty nova
😠
lofty pond
Exsang and dance ah naw
if there's an even semi-reliable build without those two, I'm running it
hot crystal
Ill play anything thats top damage
hasty nova
100%, but you should be given the room to do the harder (and maybe worse) thing.
hot crystal
Now if they can make exsang actually good for bursting shit with desthmark im game
But i still wouldnt want to like
Take it always
lofty pond
I'll also macro marked for death and cold blood together
peak solar
I mean dance mantle is pretty strong
hasty nova
Does DM spread non-lethal poisons?
peak solar
Dance mantle if it works with double bleeds might have a shot
Wym spread
Duplicate?
hasty nova
Ye
peak solar
Good question I thought it was only bleeds but I can’t remember rn
lofty pond
only lethal poisons, garrote and rupture
hasty nova
Please say no.
peak solar
That’s good
hasty nova
ty ty ty
hot crystal
Think dm only copies your weapon poison(s) garrote and rupture
peak solar
Gonna have like 8 poisons on a mob lmao
peak solar
Er 6
lofty pond
yes 6
hot crystal
Double deadly 😈
hasty nova
take leeching dorks
lofty pond
2 amp, 2 deadly, 2 utility
peak solar
Lmao
hasty nova
I just hope we don't end up going this weird 10debuff thing with Doomblade and shit.
:|
lofty pond
Gonna have literally unlimited energy
Vigor + dashing says hello
we're looking good even outside of it
hasty nova
Legion at least.
lofty pond
9.0
peak solar
And even then it was still a step ahead of legion sin
hasty nova
Lost some set bonuses?
hasty nova
Sure.
lofty pond
didn't play through legion but 9.0 was dammmmmn
felt like i was always duelling a frost mage
upwards of 3 sec of idle sometimes
peak solar
Not full face roll like outlaw but not snail 30 apm lol
lofty pond
ugh
that's why I don't like .0 patches on general as sin
pooling is overly important because such low haste
hasty nova
@lofty pond Should be better this time around since our talents are juiced.
lofty pond
yeah, thank our lord and saviour wrathion for dashing scoundrel baseline
native flower
https://www.geoguessr.com/challenge/VR2wWmEJooux5xnJ
Who the fuck said africa for the first one
peak solar
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfRQjCFqj1N/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= @serene crescent
wheat onyx
can u not use corpseflies if you arent necro?
do u have to be max renown with the covenant to use it
foggy patio
Who the fuck said africa for the first one
I don't know man, why is there so much english in malaysia?
I've literally never seen that much english before
hasty nova
Could be near mining towns?
foggy patio
mining towns in malaysia?
hasty nova
Sure.
burnt dock
maybe i just stay in the intro for a bit
hasty nova
There has never been a game that panders harder.
burnt dock
and i'm here for it
compact grotto
cat = stupid
peak solar
say yo baby mama got 2 kids that ain’t yours would it be fucked up to bring your kid some food or a treat and not the other kids
modest lion
29°c at 2am 
inner wadi
biden made it hotter in texas
rocky patio
cat = stupid
Based
hot crystal
<:monkahmm:585734084571955211> say yo baby mama got 2 kids that ain’t yours woul...
Depends if ur in the other kids' life
peak solar
Depends if ur in the other kids' life
Good point
Yea I’d say that’s probably a determining factor
Keep seeing that shit all over insta lol
warped wedge
@modest lion
serene crescent
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfRQjCFqj1N/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= <@13725259172885...
worthy bane
was just about to go to bed 
warped wedge
what server you on
worthy bane
Slen
warped wedge
saw thirain had 2 in the same day during the weekend
worthy bane
yeah, another server had 2 in the same day recently
worthy bane
worthy bane
ohh
warped wedge
average is still like 60 taps lmao
worthy bane
is the damage difference that big?
worthy bane
what ilvl would that be?
warped wedge
1510
worthy bane
whale ilvl zone
warped wedge
will take a while to get there 😛
modest lion
<@210784027752398848> <:starege:923197272064426075>
noise
crude cave
Is fox news creaming its pants about aoc being arrested at a protest yet
hasty nova
or the 16 other arrests? Can't wait for this to be considered an insurrection.
crude cave
Idk if they can risk calling it that
The low IQ viewers might Google what that actually is and then they're in trouble
hasty nova
They might angle it as the police being VERY NICE TO THEM.
crude cave
Conveniently leaving out the j6 cop selfies
hasty nova
Of course
crude cave
Few dem politicians were protesting abortion rights at the capitol and got arrested
peak solar
Neat
hasty nova
Yeah there were 17 congressman arrested alongside some other nerds.
peak solar
now organize some strikes and we gotta deal
crude cave
Strikes for what, they just twist that as a win
crude cave
They already want women at home popping out babies why do you think a strike would do anything
peak solar
crude cave
Yeah people can't afford to do that here
peak solar
That’s kind of the point the country couldn’t afford it either
So demands would be met
peak solar
Doubt that would go over well with half the population
Change is possible when people work together
crude cave
Do you think the Republicans pushing these anti-women ideals care though
That would be a win for them
peak solar
It’s why the left and the right are constantly pitted against each other with push button topics
Can’t accomplish shit when you’re divided and bickering
crude cave
Less women working, means more women at home caring for children
That's whats they want
peak solar
No because women are a vital part of our country
crude cave
They don't see it that way and they don't care, either
modest lion
they see women as vital too. but in a different context
peak solar
Doesn’t matter they’ll be forced to understand that with a strike
modest lion
Doesn’t matter they’ll be forced to understand that with a strike
oh my sweet summer child
crude cave
We're not talking about reasonable people here
peak solar
I mean we have a literal historical event that proves this
crude cave
They can't be convinced
modest lion
just like those employers understand with a single strike that raising the salary of their employees will be a good thing
thats why we never havfe strikes last more than a day
or negotiations around strikes
nuh-uh
peak solar
But sure just believe every republican is the devil and abandon all hope for change because the devil like that’s the worst mindset to have fam
crude cave
I mean, I'm just saying striking won't have the effect you'd hope that it does
They don't want women working anyway
peak solar
And it’s not just striking from work btw it’s striking from housework caretaking child care etc
peak solar
That’s part of the strike it wasn’t just workers
modest lion
yeah how silly of all of us. all it needs is a single strike! how did no one ever have that idea? esra just fixed sexism and misogyny!
peak solar
A lot of the women in Iceland were housewives mothers and caretakers
crude cave
Yeah, but I'm unsure of context in this case
peak solar
I’m not saying it will be fixed with a single strike, it’d have to be big enough for that to happen
crude cave
Was Icelands government in large part filled with conspiracy nuts and fascists?
modest lion
like... where?
peak solar
And just saying nothing can be done don’t try isn’t just neutral it’s downright detrimental
modest lion
got any sources that isnt attached to your lower end of your body?
peak solar
I literally posted one
modest lion
where did anyone say "dont even try"
peak solar
Scroll up
crude cave
That image you linked was also
50 years ago nearly
In the height of the rights movement
peak solar
Yea there’s a neat thing about history we can learn lessons from it
modest lion
ah nice
crude cave
That's the thing though
crude cave
The Republicans don't want history taught
peak solar
It had effect within a few years what
modest lion
in a country that was already very liberal at the time
peak solar
It was not from what I’ve read
modest lion
in a country where going on strike is actually a thing you can do due to unions protecting you
crude cave
Chances are you strike here you just get fired and replaced and they pay the guy replacing you $2 less
peak solar
You can go on strike in the us
modest lion
in the middle of one of the biggest recessions in history
just go on strike and risk your job bro
peak solar
Chances are you strike here you just get fired and replaced and they pay the guy...
If it’s one person sure that’s why you organize a big movement
modest lion
while living in a country you can get fired over for missing a single day
hasty nova
Your job probably isn't worth shit to begin with.
modest lion
how you gofnna pay rent?
worthy bane
still better than no job
crude cave
I mean did you not read that Chipotle is literally closing an entire store because they had a union movement
hasty nova
Can you pay rent already?
crude cave
Do u think these companies care
peak solar
Force them to care
modest lion
most people barely can
crude cave
They'll close close up shop
peak solar
Obviously they’re gonna fight back some
Doesn’t mean you stop fighting for better conditions or rights
Slaves didn’t just give up because it was hard
crude cave
Yeah but striking isn't gonna work in today's world
peak solar
Bruh just stop
Stop making excuses for why things can’t change lmao
People have way more power collectively than you give them credit
modest lion
good job trying to get over 150 million women to do that
crude cave
Bruh we're at the peak of inflation since the mid 1980s
modest lion
or rather, gl
peak solar
Yea why don’t we just not try to have a better future because it’s hard
crude cave
Most people can't afford to just drop their income
It's not that it's hard
It's that you get one shot, and it has to work
peak solar
No not really
crude cave
If it doesn't you lost your job and your house, can't pay car insurance
peak solar
You can build momentum
peak solar
Yea sometimes you have to sacrifice a little stability for a better future
worthy bane
speaking of population, Iceland has 300k people now, can't imagine how much it was 50 years ago but it's certainly easier to rally a smaller population size
peak solar
The word ain’t all sunshine and rainbows fam
crude cave
Bruh the average person in the US is already struggling
peak solar
speaking of population, Iceland has 300k people now, can't imagine how much it w...
Also true might not be the perfect answer just saying there’s options besides just accepting bullshit
lilac heath
crude cave
It's not a sacrifice most people are willing to make on something that isn't a sure thing
peak solar
Maybe you’re not
modest lion
speaking of population, Iceland has 300k people now, can't imagine how much it w...
it was about 25k people at that rally
esra is asking for 100million people to just do the same
worthy bane
peak solar
Hey I’m not saying it’s a perfect answer or it needs to be directly replicated just saying it’s an option and one that has shown to have success
crude cave
You're telling people to, essentially, put up your housing and job on a gamble, for a chance to be slightly more comfortable than you are at the moment
Thats a huge risk
peak solar
Yes you cannot give up all hope for justice or freedom because you are afraid of a disruption of peace
modest lion
lets not forget that you have to somehow hoep and rely that dozens of millions of others stick with it too
instead of just taking advantage
and yoinking someone elses job
crude cave
If anything, I bet your landlord would LOVE to evict you so he can double the rent for the next tenant
peak solar
We’re beating a dead horse right now I’ve said my piece
crude cave
:)
crude cave
It's not about believing it isn't possible, it's that the method suggested just can't work, not today, there's too many compounding societal factors that make it that way