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people here still play wow and are excited for it
if anything i'd be suprised if wow players weren't skeptical about ANY changes at this point
if you wanna have OMG NEW SHIT ULTIMATE HYPE AHHH I CANT BELIEVE IT, find a circlejerk to fill that need
i like some of the new stuff, i dislike some of the new stuff
Just like all the negative circlejerkers have overtaken every wow community?
dunno if that makes me a doomposter cause im not unanimously hyped for smth
i wanna see more of the talents
but from what i saw, looked kinda meh
hope its not meh
not enough information out to make an opinion on anything really
besides i like dragons
maybe 16y of playing the game and having lived through over half a dozen new expansions has made me a bit jaded when it comes to new features being talked about in the most hype way possible, with half of them turning out kinda mediocre
dunno i think there was quite a lot of stuff they showed lol
left side is basically your spellbook
right side is spec talents
ye
we dont know what kind of upgrades or improvements those will hold
hopefully they release it all
since they didnt show any tooltips at all
give talent calculators
Seeing how rogue plays out in general i what I'm looking forward to the most in this expansion
based on icons, boomies get their 2 set as a talent choice
sephuz left so
as i said earlier, its just to conceptualize and help people visualize what this new system is suppsoed to be like
filling it in is still very much WIP
maybe we wont have our class be completed last week of beta
if theyd wanted to be more accurate
it'd be a bunch of red questionmark icons
with WIP and TBD tooltips
clearly theyve decided that this is the core concept theyre going with, so 3 different types of talents, passives, unlockables and "choose your own ability/cooldown" ones
what those will actually be is very much undecided still
could be incarn vs convoke, could be anything other than that
I am just praying to all the gods in the sky that its not just current trees in a new formation lmao
that would be omega uber disappointing
Keep praying
im sure they have a list of talents from the current trees theyre gonna keep, and the ones they wanna get rid off
that's what I'm expecting it to be
same as every expac
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ye I hope its not jus a reorganization into a new more modern look window
And any talents across the class will just go to class

Who wants to bet outlaw gets shadowstep
and replace it with good shit
jokes on you
outlaw is back to combat now
so i'd be ok with that
they just haven't said
Also wouldnt surprise me
tbh i could see assa having a choice of having 2 shadowsteps
they add smoke bomb but only for outlaw
probably gonna have stuff like gouge in the class tree for rogue, for example
I think shadowstep will be a left side tree "talent" that is between assa and sub
and 2 charges will be a passive you have to opt into
oh yea
Hmm i could see gouge being in outlaw tree still
gouge for sure coming back
They better not make me choose grappling hook as a talent
I wonder if this means they're getting rid of stupid pvp talents
i think the spec spellbooks will be condensed
on a side note, anybody know why is h3h3 being canceled?
and theyll remove redundant abilities or make some of them class-wide instead of spec-wide
i don't keep up to date much on internet drama
spec spellbooks will probably mostly be rotational abilities and cooldowns
but yeah, i think the biggest challenge will be trying to make the new talent system exciting and feel like an upgrade over what we already have
cause i can also see it easily being disappointing and just putting 50 points in to basically do the same shit you do now
Cds look to be inherent for specs
so like kidney is probably a talent, vial is probably a talent, shroud is probs a talent
Im assuming they'll put some legendary-esq powers in the tree because theres no such borrowed power this time around
man
Like CA and moonkin form were passives on the spec not part of the tree
i love my cat sm it's crazy
my 2 cats even
i wish i could always live with the other
those might either be active abiltiies or just buffs to those abilities

So like maybe sub gets blades and dance or smth
like, people need to stop looking at those trees as if whatever they put ion there is somehow already agreed upon
my guess is circles = small passives, like x% more damage/chance
squares are abilities
octagons are choices like current talents
yeah it seems to be passive nodes/unlockable abilities/choose your ability
ye thats what it is
the goal should be to not make you pick all the abilities you already have as unlockable abilities. but then thats most likely going to be the case for a maxlevel character, as the tree needs to be looked at from a lv1 perspective
im also going based on the fact that in the "druid" side of the tree, there are bilities like skullbash, and innervate
and feral cant "upgrade innervate"
that square has to "give innervate"
so like, were not starting at the top of that tree as a maxlevel character. its already filled out, for the most part
yes
i think youre gonna get some bare bone abilities from top
its not gonna just passively fill out
no, it fills out as you level up
i mean, its a talent tree? 😄
u start from the top and work ur way down
p sure resto is gonna have like rejuv and swiftmend base
oh yeah and the diamonds are conduits
those arent
abilities you unlock
those are boosts to those abilities
so as you level
that doesnt make sense though
you can already improve the functionality of core abilities
wdym lmao
without delving into a spec
how do you "boost" skullbash" as a balance druid
more range?
balance druid doesnt have skull bash
no the square is active
how do you upgrade a spell a spec doesnt have
that is starsurge
the one you press
not an upgrade ot it
the upgrade to it is on the right there
in the boomy tree
why are people so focused on the very specifics of that tree?
it could be a baseline ability, it could not
because were going off what we know, ur assuming the entire tree is going to shuffle everything around
and that these are placeholders
stampeding roar is in there twice
although ye it would make more sense if the square abiltiies are acquired on level up
The diamonds look like baseline abilities they want you to always have, so spec cds and maybe a few utility spells right
Starfall and CA
idfk im just gonna wait until i can myself scroll over it and click it and play with it
Inherent moonkin
i also wasnt responding to you, guy

Rebirth and roar inherent druid
word
when i said "those might just be upgradeable ones"
i was literally talking about stuff like reju/bark etc.
the stuff at the very top
that you get when you hit like lv5 or smth
yeah u probably will put ur first points into "unlocking" spells now
rather than being given spells
so like at level x, you get 1 talent point, and you can put 1 into ur spec, one into class
the class tree unlocks and upgrades spells
by picking reju+starfire etc. over the cat/bear spells
the spec one enhances gives more specifics

u likely still get a collection of baseline things
Ye
also the skill tree might just be work in progress
isnt that a leaked screenshot?
ah. well i mean its obvious its work in progress because it wont release for a year 
its coming out in november
supposedly from where
i was expecting late nov/jan tier but given no alpha date and no dungeon viewing etc that's usual for expac announcements i just like
wrote it off as definitely not nov lol
i mean
if you wanna go off of whats actually in the tree
youd probably start a druid with wrath, regrowth, multiple shapeshifts and like 1 cat/bear ability each?
Yeah could be
i dont know half their icons or names
and then you level, and you pick which skills to add
lots of new abilities at first
lateron its more about passives
or enhancing abilities you already picked
so like as a boomy you have moonfire+wrath lv1
Oh yeah for sure
you level up, you pick starfire, you level up again, you pick sunfire, you level up again, you pick moonkin form etc.
so by the time you hit like lv10, you already have access to a bunch of things you wanna focus on, without having picked a specialization yet
Ye
the best thing about today's announcement is the lack of NA friends posting great vault screenshots 
What will they do about shit like rogue where we want different builders
so by the looks of it, you could play a boomkin with skullbash now
Yeah i kinda like that
well for rogue, youd start out with sinister strike on all specs
sinisterstrike+backstab+ambush most likely
nah
one can only used from behind
and historically you always had backstab, you didnt get ambush until later
No?
But you can backstab the front
Definitely gonna have to upgrade ss into backstab
ok watching the cinematic now
and once you pick a spec, you basically replace sinisterstrike or backstab with a better builder
is boyguessing like the tamer version of mansplaining
but yeah, maybe now itll just be
AZEROTH CRIES OUT IN PAIN
ss>bs for sub, ss>mutilate for assa
Ye
and outlaw unlocks pistolshot when you choose spec
If i can just not talent throw
something like that
the problem i see with a talenttree like that
is that it works great for a hybrid
cause you can split the class-tree into 2 or 3 distinct sections
like in the druid tree, you have feral/guardian on left, resto in middle and boomy on right side
for mage you can still do the same
with frost/fire/arcane etc.
for smth like hunter or wl its a bit more sketchy i think
and rogue even worse
Ye
cause we already share so many abilities across specs
yeah, but assa might be middle
since it shares shadowstep with sub
and ambush with outlaw
no
youd unlock those
in the class tree
so yeah, id assume its gonna be outlaw/sub on the sides, assa in the middle
as assa shares the most with the 2 other specs

again 
so you feel like yourself
I'm a bit disgusted, all the closet scalies coming out

For the class tree right seli where it has class abilities that are like associated with specs

the problem with rogue is
well no most of the time i feel like a 1000 years old dying slug
that is doesnt really have distinct abilities, as much as we just upgrade our base abilities into our spec ones
Then theres still the separate spec tree with a few spec abiltiies and a lot of passive upgrades
Ye its gonna be weird
so it doesnt work like a caster does
wouldn't say weird, but different
but theyll figure that out
we'll still start with ss/evis and maybe snd
and then you either take left side for stuff like pistolshot, bte etc.
snd 
Im definitely interested to see how they do it
middle for mutilate, poisons etc.
cant wait to have to pick alacrity again 
or rightside with the sub shit
just after you picked SnD
and then the class overlap abilities like rupture will be somewhere in the middle, like cyclone or skullbash etc.
don't you play enveloping shadows?

Sub would be like shadowstep and cheap shot
and then the pickable talents could be smth like ct vs pb, enveloping shadows vs dark shadows, that kinda stuff
dawg my guy ion has some BAGS under his eyes
basically theyll try to fit all the rank2 passives and current talents into this new "one-fit-all" tree
Yeah i gotcha
raidleading a wr 1000 guild does that to you
he doesn't raidlead afaik
not this patch
Ye its worse he heaks
seli from discord is so different from seli the streamer
Heals
i'd say a massive sexual misconduct lawsuit in ur company does that to you too
basically, the way you need to lock at the talenttree, is that if you see a fully filled tree like on that screenshot, thats what the class currently is. those arent all new things you get when you play the expac, the only people who get to really enjoy the new tree like a new thing, are lv1 characters
stressfull job
simple as that
yeah ican believe that
most maxlevel players will look at this new tree and select 50 points jsut so their spec plays the same as it has
ye i mean they said they're trying to make the game appealing to new players
with this + the ui update
because thats what its supposed to be
Ye i gotta like get all my guys leveled so i dont have to be level 1 
well, leveling can still be fun
except for the "choose your talent" options, there isnt a whole lot of new thins to get super excited about in regards to the talents
especially as a new spec
the main feature for maxlevel players is the fact that you can save templates and easily swap between them

Ive done every class on at least one spec to 50-60
wdym
I can do evoker tho
you don't joke as much, you should
the worst part is current ion looks way better than interview ion
cause usually they do him mega dirty
and give him 0 lighting
so he looks like an actual zombie from the apocalypse
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i mostly stream raid these days
no fun to be had there
I don't smoke (I smoke raid bosses)
Seli makes more jokes when he does keys with people
good thing i kinda stopped playing keys then
Wheres the part about wow dragonflight
And the drakthyr
i should live in the UK
But my fav part of your streams were always the chill talks with chat at the end of your stream ♥

ngl
i do miss streaming more regularly
but playing less wow is just kinda... more fun
i figured, since you RL you can't be joking as much
nah thats not it
its just
i already hate this tier
mostly cause i dislike the way rogue plays atm
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Which gives like 300 leapstones
The dungeon is 100% coming, its the tower/bridge thing were not sure about
yeah
thats just
quests
so thats each character
and the packs are
2 of those per char
and i think 4 rare+
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Flower i thought u werent even gna play rogue if u come back
but its 1 spec so if its not fun thats L + ratio i got 3 chances with rogue
i hope outlaw is the best next xpac at startr
wtf is this
exclusive discord for high level dragonborn theorycrafters
fr
if outlaw bad no
i'm loyal to OL
Bro should i get in the temple omr
This new class is only 1 spec?
probably the dragon class discrod
Ah ok
Ranged is dev idr what healer is called
it's outlaw or anotha melee
I love melee bro
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this is what the wow haters have become
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what?
lmfao
For what mobile game of the year
these people are on crack
Whens arcane:the mmo
its almost as if
the people saying "no more cosmic shit please" and "this looks boring" are different people
also all the silent people that just dont care as much
Me
I like when its somewhat interesting
So then i care a little
And dont hate leveling as much
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im in oriboobs
oh i never was on left side
my guild carried me
My raid leader gives my mage affixes whenever i do a key or alt raid
low effort meme:
He was gripping me across xymox rings and shit
Or he just wont heal me
That kind of stuff
yeah I just don't want to do keys yet
Im kinda feeling it this week tbh
@foggy patio one of my guildies is trying to raid with anvil to see how it really is
do you use the same starting word every time?
I changed it just recently
you start with “rogue” every time
but yes
i didnt get any from the later bosses in lfr
so i have to do normal+
but my ilvl is still 255
so like, lol
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yep


That's probably for talent resets
its literally a photoshop
o lol
...
Tbh though it wouldn't have surprised me for them to do something dumb like that
Miz
Some of the least observant people...

kek rogue isn't good in classic you can only really bring 1
There are just too many Rogues and 2 is already the limit.
you can bring a 2nd one for expose armor, right?
For wrath?
Wrath might be 3-4
Yeah I meant wrath
TBC rogue is good with gear but it takes a bit
Will be much better when swp comes out whenever
xD
and I already have one 😐
I'm in a rando starter guild and I just run whatever i'm able to go to on free nights
Off hand glaive is a good one to have no?
oh fair i didn't look at the actual stats for them cuz i'm never getting them
Ye I just looked and realized 2.8 speed
Yeep
I just barely got 70 like two weeks ago so i'm in a mishmash of prebis+ phase 1 with random ZA stuff
za is preeeetty nice
I kinda view it as catchup gear, it's nice
got heartless last night which was big upgrade from vindicator's brand lmao
ye i'm working on that rn
bro u dont even do keys L + ratio
Bruh if you don't use the bkugs what are u even doing
That thing looks so sick
Has a sick charged r2 you can flick backwards to hit em with the initial part
bkugs ?
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i havent seen suicide squad
esra its the best day of my life man
im subbed out on vg
IM A IDEA
Wassat
makes me so happy
i get to do all the better bosses
i am so mad
i was fucking BLASTING on xymox
ring clipped me because its apparently alot bigger than it appears
I like the name
i liked lil sprout
I have hella adhd so I swap stuff up every now and then
i like the way davy jones says calypso
I usually stick to something for a month or two then change it up
Like my lunch for this last month has been tuna fish salad sandwiches
tuna fish salad sandwich
Lmao yea I used to do it with cereal as a kid a lot
sounds disgusting
It’s good as hell
Well for me it’s brunch
i eat once a day
I do brunch dinner and a snack at night that’s usually fruit or something
sometimes ill buy a lunchable at work but thats a lil snack
i have a protein bar, then 1.5-2 meals
That’s pretty good
One meal a day is fine as long as it’s not right before you sleep
nah i usually eat din around 6-7pm
Need energy throughout the day to support yourself
I am currently fucking up a mini watermelon
mf i need the will to live!!!
xd
nah sumtimes i will splurge and even have a lil breakfast bar
but for lunch
its a healthy snack or some shit
That’s fine
wit sum taijin
Dunno how anyone could not like watermelon
I raw dog mine
I just eat it with a spoon
i dont ever purchase a whole watermelon bc lazy
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It’s so good
Especially if it’s chilled
aight we back in the raid
Time for some loot
just add vodka to the watermelon 🍉

Could also do that but I don’t drink 
we all have our issues.

What are your questions about the new talent trees?
I'm not going to answer right here and now but want to figure out what information/clarification people need.
709
Fair.
curious what they figure out with rates pvp
he wont bro he doesnt know how
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how many wipes?
Bro ur pumping
Ur guild an opp tho
bro xymox was hilariously bad
i was doing okay
but then everyone died all at the same time (including me)

it wouldve been around 13k
which is workable
and they wont let me do damage on pantheon
"st spec"

We have worst execution on boss
we had 1 person alive
a DH in nether
we all died at like 100k hp
LOL
we have so much damage
its insane
pushing boss at 1:15 in p1
no one potting till p3 too
damn
healing cds for what wtf nothing happens
yeah, I know
but boss should die next reset anyway
dropping from 17k dps on reclaim to 13k when we hit intermission 
@clever sleet my guild, but with me assigned to p1 and p3 add, losing opener and lust cds on boss
pog!
pantheon
the dh still has details name from remnant in sanctum? 
can't blame him
the key is not being reliable enough
Dunked.
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no shot hes changed in 12 hours
Im sure the raids and stuff will be fun but I dislike the theme
shadowlands theme is 100% better
dragons arent my thing
man i had a fucking blaster pull
u not pogged up for the new talents bro
no
why would I be?
it just looks like more steps for no reason
because we will all end up using 1 or 2 combination
because highest number = what we use lol
doesnt matter if theres more customization
theres only gonna be 1 thats good
I like loadouts thing

i mean it could be
that a few talent builds end up within a small dps margin of eachother if its being expanded on by a large margin
just looks like more dogshit to sim but I wont be doing any of that and I will just click on the pins of the best spec in this discord
and then it just becomes preference
ok yeah thats major cope
but
id love for that to be the case
best scenario is that we get something like outlaw in 9.0 where MA was goated and non MA build was also good
but even then
its like 2 builds

i feel like the more talent options you have
You will never truly be able to customize because you will always play whats higher number
the more potential for a bigger diversity of builds
and thats a fact for anyone who plays the game at a decent level
well when there are options for 3-8 talents going into flex slots, thats basically up to u at that point
knowing wow there will be 1 equivalent of alacrity and the rest are dogshit
etc
I'll be honest the talent system is an entirely neutral change to me
I don't see any realistic advantages of the new system that could not simply exist in the old system
im all for multiple rogue builds
letting people pick how they want to hybrid
















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