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but everyone goes ham
but me can not fulfil those atm and that makes me sadge
like me would want to be able to slam keys like crazy first 2 weeks
how many if you actually has alts for splits?
Wdym by this
My brain is slow
of you*
Oh
we did a split daps but it was optional
Getting half the guild 4 set day 1 is such an insane power spike
yeah i can tell you week 1 mythic without was fucking rough
that was basically our thought process, because in abberus we just wiped on rashok for like 3h? but it was just unkillable without split gear week1
this is nymue, look at the little blop on the left
so now we didnt kill council week1 but got all the extra gear
Colour built different
were expecting to drop ranks next tier anyways
doubt we will do splits start of xpac
and first tier usually easier so you cant gain back the hours
against bruteforcers
vault was harder than aberrus no?
yeah but I mean thats mostly because raz mythic such a dogshit boss
i kinda liked pre nerf raz
rasz p3 was kinda hype
yeah as a rogue :d what about 5 classes that are like lmaoxd
that i dont agree with
cant live p1 without others yippie
sv hunter was the truth
i killed it as ret and dh also
was still fun
well one of those 2 chars Id assume you killed p1 twice nerfed
you were pala on prog right? I dont remember
in vault i was warrior at the start
then swapped to rogue
on farm i played rogue/warr/ret/dh
yeah we killed on the thursday after the big nerfs
spriest got some huge buffs which let me go assa
it was so hard before that
just throw out all your cc ykno
ezpz
i remember having to cheap shot -> kidney -> blind an orb
yeah but she got hp nerf so you didnt have to do that last wave in the middle of the room anymore
and winds nerf aswell
was just silly when you were doing like deep p2 prog and half your wipes were still in p1
and ofc it was 13min fight aswell
everyones favorite
No that's paul pierce
fuck paul pierce
are u allowed to say that as a boston fan
Is it cause he pooped his pants
I'm not sure we should be judging people solely off shitting themselves tbh
We were all once in diapers, we might all end up there again
paul pierce wasnt in diapers
maybe he shoulda been
when he shit himself
PS he did finish that game
what site is this
Isn't that the website that lets you see a guild's total pulls on each boss and prog?

Progstats io I think
Yeah, that
me
are you the pole or the raccoon
depends on the day of the week

This your dog?
i wish

"do not take pictures of me human"
Looks like it heard you
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ye im close to that rn
been farming on ret and rogue
rogue is 485 and pala is 483 or smth
only done 3 mythic so far
char is a week old

i have no mythic alt raid to join
transfer a char to draenor
we have a server wide pug
or just wait for hof to close
soonTM 
we killed smolderon in the pug yesterday
was pretty chill
upgrading a full outlaw set isnt gonna be fun
i aint doing that
i either play sub in keys
or i dont play rogue
my Havoc is ready
just need Thorncaller, Ashes + Signet
over nerfed spec
paladin gamers
20% of 0
(you also need axe)
we'll see
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is that the one from work
In fairness she was throwing it out but it's way better than the one I had which was leaking everywhere and shit
Yeah
Shit beeps when it's done it's so cool

Makes some great coffee I must say.
But the old one I had was like $15 leaked everywhere. It was shit.

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doesnt sound scary at all

i say “killer” because he attacked four targets but killed zero
L killer
Never mind what a useless loser.
Lemme see if I can find the article
Hey! He's trying his best ok!
He was legit prowling the streets around the forest with a knife and as soon as someone saw him he went in (saw him once myself as well)
sarah going for multikill later
Took police wayy too long to find him its wild
Was it u
Gottem
Could have been ramlu too
He must not have read the faq then
Seen enough true crime. Wanna be my first target? 🪓
Ooof
being a serial killer must be 100x harder now
Like police is cheating atp
back then u could do anything and get away with it
easier in rural areas
Yeah there's a reason of the majority of violent crimes per capita are committed outside of dense populations.
Ain't nobody looking as I drive you into my barn.

wait really?
Doesnt the high murder rate from poor neighbourhoods balance out or smth
Feel like I always read so much about New Orleans / Chicago / Atlanta’s rampant violent crime problem
Then I'll spiral into a deep part in my psyche we're ill blame all of you for it.
It even yellow.
Power
I've always felt that our perpetrated violence on the global south, is a projection of our violent south.
Like what the fuck is going on there, a 20?

!pf usa
New England supremacy
That shit is so low that I think it's an aberration and that the police just don't do any work.
Surely someone is being stabbed up there or something.
Surely.
only place still questioning why they are american
that difference though is just something
since i was curious
Yukons not shocking at all
i enjoy PEI being 0

quebec has one of the lowest rates but they also have one of the highest rates of equited criminals from other provinces as well

Commit a crime anywere else in canada and worryed you might get some mob justice? just run to quebec
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it is!
north end halifax or some area of dartmouth you just don't walk there at night
my sister saw a guy get stabbed when they lived in highfield that was like 30 years ago?
20 years ago some shit
zamn
I remember i was dating this girl and I hadn't gone to her place yet.
One night she told me where she lived and I have never been more scared for my life

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SMh
Me when my ex told me he lived in a religious ass town




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i was asked by my boss once if im taking drugs
(he didnt like me)

cus i just look perma sleep deprived
yeah, being guy is easy
maybe it was the undies on your head that made him think that
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hello
wtf is the context for this
is this AI?
@brazen eagle have you seen nightshade?
yes
my 2c
ai poisoning software is a waste of time
oh wait
nvm i think i remember th names wrong
you probably mean this
it is poisoning tech
okay, just coincident then with names
Data poisoning attacks manipulate training data to introduce unexpected behaviors into machine learning models at training time. For text-to-image generative models with massive training datasets, current understanding of poisoning attacks suggests that a successful attack would require injecting millions of poison samples into their training pi...
from what i know
well, it's a cool math problem to trick a model
most approaches so far even tho this wasn't the public concense
ended up beeing fairly easy to reverse
but for overall progress I dunno if that's really the play
I think it's kinda of a losing arms race
MJ probably in the worse position because you can essentially brows through the galery of "art styles" and see who they used for training
sd is shadow demon?
it's not that easy
they also have their training data set leaked iirc
so they admitting to copyright infringment
with digital image and even voice it's hard to pin point a stealing
for Stability, they have a better case because being able to produce a specific style does not mean its is trained on copyrighted material
like for voice I can hire 5 very good impersonators of ones voice, pay them, get their data and train my model on that dataset
it would sound like say Taylor Swift, but 0 actual Taylor Swift audio was used in the process
voice cloning has a lot of the issues text and image generation already fixed
is impersonation now illegal?
no
you can do the same with image
my point was diffrent
what if I paid some artists to recreate images not precisely?
and I paid them
and then trained my model on those recreations
thats the point
and its a good discussion
what if i paint a copy of a copyrighted work
and sell it
legally
I think also the discussion should be at what point it's a copy and not inspiration
that's a grey area
I mean on top of selling copy
so legally you are already covered
I would get sued - who? buyer or seller?
your IP and copyright should apply even if an ai created a copy
the seller obv.
i mean its like
if i steal a car and sell it to you, would you get into legal troubles?
YES
realistically no, because you didn't know it was stolen
okay, so seller makes a copy(non-ai copy but you can' really prove otherwise, let's say you can somehow)
they sell the copy
is buyer now responsible for doing due dilligence of authenticity of that image?
worse thing that could happen is that you lose the car but you wouldn't go to prison
if buyer is not responsible then how does one revert training on that data that was legally purchased but turned out to be stolen?
in the US as far as I know larceny is an actual crime
and to what extent I as a buyer has to cover that?
@pulsar trail come here for legal advice
scan every corner of the Internet for similar thing?
good point
I am not even talking ai copy
but you as a person need a certain amount of trust, so if you buy something w/e how big or small
you can hire manpower to make you similar but not same images
and then get all of that as training data
oh absolutely
the problem is its with any form of art
art is a form that only exists based on the context of previouse art
and this is a difficult problem
because you now can go two ways.
Either be very explicit about copyright --- in which case paintings in a style of an artist would be fine
Or go down the road of disallowing it to even use any image
maybe only allow photography
but even then things you photograph can have copyrights or other things
succession
mad men
sopranos
bojack horseman
undone
black mirror was good
it is a ongoing legal battle in ai, but its a losing battle
because what stops one of the top players to get permission to high quality datasets legally
yeah I have no idea how legislation can protect people in that space
and essentially eliminate all of the issues/problems
also who does say that this isn't already happening
even "ai art" detection is pretty much another model that has to be trained and updated and it still has error of type I and II so yeah
kinda fucked up situation
the expanse is great
its probably the best sci fi series since stargate sg1
both text and image generation have big architectural problems
if you want to look at a slightly better approach
mamba is a good paper for text generation
they where forced to do a rushed ending cus of Corona, and its STILL really fucking good
there was one website that did tell you what art a image was trained on
but it was total BS
because it did more or less just comapre what picture looked related to the output
so it attributed random artists for whatever you threw at it
okay, expanse it is
its a good show, have fun
Best scifi I've seen recently is "scavengers reign"
Blew my mind
I liked expanse too, that one is more traditional space opera
But I thought scavengers was better and much more unique
It's kinda like subnautica (no ocean) but a TV show
other scifi show I liked recently:
Silo
Severance
Pantheon
@brazen eagle @modest lion thoughts on this AI pokemon game?
its the most successful early access launch in the history of gaming, yet no one cares it was mostly made by generative AI? everyone was so anti-AI last year but just forgets when a fun game comes out?
what game do you mean?
its not ai
sold 4million copies
its just a pokemon clone
so it hasnt been proven, yet many of the pokemon are dangerously close rips to nintendo IP
and the CEO has been pro generative AI for years
are we just choosing not to connect the dots
basically, from what i saw of the game it blends the typical survival game
with pokemon
im not arguing what the game is
there are some problems with the game esp. if you think about ethics
im arguing how the assets were created
e.g. from what i know
you are not limited to pokemon
you can collect players too (don't think actual ones but at least npcs)
so they work as a slave for you and you can also eat them
this raises a bit of a moral problem with slavery and canibalism
throwing a sphere to "catch" a monster has been Pokemon's thing for 30 years
its not crazy to copy that, ill agree there
also its unclear if the game lacks meaningful long term hooks
for me, it seems like the developers tryied to find a way to rip off pokemon
while having a leg to stand on legally
im not necessarily anti-ripping pokemon. nintendo has let gamefreak absoulutely fuckup the IP for going on 10 years now
im anti-AI
which hasnt been proven yet i guess
i think its hard to predict if legal actions will get any consequence
for what its worth, the best thing that could come out of it is
theres no legal consequences to using AI to make a game
Nintendo starting to finally do somthing with pokemon
and maybe not release the same game/formula every time
pokemon as a game is fairly boring/stale atm
sorry but i dont think you're picking up what im putting down
the game creator used AI to make assets, and doesnt care that they're ripped from pokemon
is the claim
don't think it matters
everything in the game could very well be hand drawn
I can export models from pokemon
and modify it
and use it again
and i would get legal problems, if nintendo would find out
but unless they can prove it, its hard
i think you focus on ai too much in the topic
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and playing dumb like "oops i didnt know my bad" because an AI made it, instead of artists you hired
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temtem rips off the pokemon system even more noticable
but nintendo lost the legal battle against them iirc
interesting, do you know the verdict
i guess im focusing on the AI part too much...but thats all there is to focus on? idk
like is this not what people said was gonna happen last year? AI is gonna replace artists and just start ripping off previous IPs? its just lazy
it does not look like it
you can't rly create 3d models well rigth now
you cant shoot a meowth
What's crazy to me is people will righteously defend this game as not copying pokemon designs
granted, the rest of the game seems original
but the monster designs are just
cmon.
oh it absolutely does
Theres tools to "poison" your images and models now so that they "corrupt" the AIs trying to use them, which is an interesting concept
tho some pokemon are not very unique
in terms of look like animals that are fairly common
idk, i think im justifying my friends wanting me to buy it and play with them
so i would exclude them
cause i feel a little moral dilemma
e.g. a sheep
ball
@brazen eagle good talk, as always. have a good day pal
only thing its copying is the battle style, their creatures are pretty unique
got some combat mechanics of their own as well
very chill 
VERY rare soviet W take
holy shit
ye scavangers reign was 10/10
nah
its always good to shit on Ai
fuck Ai
stealing bullshit
that kills creativitiy
haha fair
is that from palwold?
we had a discussion earlier about a legality.
Basically, if you buy a good and are unaware that it was stolen, can you go to jail for stealing it?
no
I did
but it will be confiscated
Multiple times
👍 perfect, thanks.
du kannst ja deutsch
yea you'd have to know it was stolen or have to believe it was stolen
🙂
aka the german tl:dr is: "depeens if you could have knew it in a reasonable way"
but stuff like that is country based anyway
what oxi wrote
exact michigan law from the penal code:
(1) A person shall not buy, receive, possess, conceal, or aid in the concealment of stolen, embezzled, or converted money, goods, or property knowing, or having reason to know or reason to believe, that the money, goods, or property is stolen, embezzled, or converted.
that's MCL 750.535(1)
you can't rly pinpoint intention if you don't know its stolen
yea it's missing the mens rea portion of the crime
my artist friends dont like the game because its AI based
there was a bigger discussion about it because of windows license keys
Is it actually AI based or are people jumping on hearsay
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and it is a similar problem, you couldn't be aware that a cheap option was stolen if official sellers are also very cheap
at least in common law jurisdictions (i.e. US, UK, and Canada) to be guilty of a crime you need to have fulfilled both the actus reus (the actual action) and the mens reus (the intent)
there's exceptions to that
i mean the art looks pretty basic and interpreted from pokemon, ceo is in favor of generative ai, its not hard to make the leap to the art is ai based
i.e. being ignorant of the law doesn't make you innocent
and then the manslaughter vs murder debate
murder requires malicious intent
while they're both the unlawful killing of a human
It would not surprise me if even the pal names are AI generated, though I think there should be more confirmation
i personally dont see a problem with AI based stuff, its low quality easily generated content
you need to use the AI as a base and improve on it to have actual quality stuff
e.g. they use links like this as evidence
this was a twitter user creating pokemon like figures with ai (seemingly related to the company)
so the "link" is
the idea that it could have been ai generated, more than an actual hard link
even assuming it is ai generated, ai image generation is 2 dimensional
so you would still need to 3d model it
thats just insulting now man
Yeah so
if you liked scavengers reign watch Pantheon, its another really good animated scifi show that came out last year
Nintendo and Game Freak are just mad that they didn't think to use AI to lazily design the next gen of Mons.
damn, everyone is stealing from pokemon
^ this is a joke, they 100% have fairly blunt copies
@hasty nova uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhmmm
is this the spider man meme in multi player mode?
lol
thats the follow up post to the ai controversy tweet from the same author
so basically what the news articles use as source
they copied from sheep (irl)
@cyan oxide this is what peak male physique looks like and it makes you angry
i will not be threatened by a 4 foot 3 goblin
dont talk about his circumference like that
@shell sparrow https://x.com/sini4ka111/status/1748378223291912567?s=20
nigthshade seems to cause visual artifacts
what is probably a deal breaker for many artists
Toidi
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I love how glider got disabled in dungeons just because rogues flew across half the dungeon to get their artifact appearance
but the majority of people dont know why 
Man, I miss maining Ash because the Engineering stuff was so sweet.
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yea
that meme always gets me "elmer wants to shoot bugs (and who doesn't?)


wtf

smh slandering guy's name
I promise you you're not even as bad as you think
I literally cannot wrap my head around the vanish thing man
Bro
The 2nd rogue we were originally progging with
Showed up with dark brew sub to smold
Lets just say he was not in after that night

yeah b ut like thats what pepe is trying to do tho
so that part is accurate
ok who wins today chiefs or bill
lmfao
didnt even knew you can survive that long
Why was STeve Harvey tortured?
ye
problems seems to be
the wa doesnt show people as "dispell them" when they have dwarf racial
and we have 200000000bigbrains that rolled dwarf and dont use it
It had to be, because Sin get overnerfed 
oh no
yeah we have it so if you're dwarf and your racial is up
you don't expect to get dispelled
cause ya know
chat is this real
yeah man
ret pally needed it
they were struggling as third best ST spec in the game
I still dont have the legendary man

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@sinful terrace I might be saved by possibly the worst 2 minute defense in modern nfl history


sometimes i just be sayin shit
assa is still quite good with PI
on fyrakk
if you dont have tho... 
You're a Steelers & Celtics fan, we understand. 
I just love yapping

can you tell that my current RL? thank you
Go lions!!!
I need a new offline screen ngl
Soulstealer vayne aint cutting it anymore
I need to fly to denmark to come hang out with you
ngl

what
fine I'll just go to norway instead and hang out with @cedar nest
at least he wants to hang out with me

I'm probably getting let go from my job in 2 months
🙂
I should start applying for work
Good luck brother
I wanna hang out with you
All of you
Except Hataro
OFFLINE
lmfao
it's the nature of the beast we are graded on how many files we produce per hour and my average is way down but guess what it doesn't matter if I send 30 files a week I'm bottlenecked because people have to review shit
last time I sent 10 cases for review one week it took my team leader a month to return them to me
but I think alot of people are getting let go
because we just don't have enough work for everyone

@wheat onyx rate my new opener
some guy on reddit playing wow for the first time ever
he cast nothing from 46s until the boss died at like 6 min 20s
literally not one button press
I'm genuinely concerned for this person, someone needs to get him in here stat
new tech brother LOGIN
and he lived those 6 min?
he did
what the fuck is this game lmao
clearly the correct answer
Thats obviously star rail
yes it be
are you going to live stream the pants shitting? 🦁
I dont even play my friends do and i know it has dumb meta jokes because they always talk about it
I know a million star rail buzzwords
hey thats me in m+ trying to aoe bleed, then noticing that the big hp enemy allready melts and i panic dm kb him

Frosty sounds good right now
i made a mistake yesterday
bought a pint of green tea ice cream
accidentally ate the whole thing
😦
this lions game is gonna make me scream
bro they have to win
that throw was burrow-mahomes esque
Allen esque qb running
Just wait for Romo tonight
Gonna be hard to understand him with Allen & Mahome's dicks in his mouth
I believe
I miss Megatron
on god
Bigger waste: Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald?
Johnson by a mile
Larry was such a cool guy though
No question
He deserves so many rings
He came close
Not that Calvin wasn't either
But like Johnson? Didn't even get to a NFC championship game...
yea he got fucked
listen detroit isnt getting the super bowl this year
but they can make the nfc championship
The irony here is that she's always going to look tired because she's a sad bitch.
(It's just how she looks)
lets goooo
bro
i think ur way ahead because im watching a stream
but that goff-sun god connection was crazy
That's a lot of stats
About $10 or so
calm down big guy

Barry Sanders
i mean the games basically over now nothing to spoil
oh no
@clever sleet @sinful terrace @hot crystal I TAKE IT BACK
PLS DONT MAKE ME SHIT MY PANTS


rip barry's career man
I'll never forgive the ford family for that
Man, Oxi gonna be shitting his pants
Shit. Shit. Shit your pants. Shit. Shit. Shit your pants.
Can't fucking wait
CC: @sinful terrace
football announcers going longer than 30 seconds without saying something sus challenge
impossible
Good Lord you should see a compilation of the sus shit Barkley says
Shaq cannot contain his laughter
real
i mean he’s dialed it way down since he played
"those young boys be coming"
the round mound of rebound
earlier i heard a comment

shit pant
fr ong
outlaw still holding onto life against lionhearts
When did you get a cat?

announcer math makes my head hurt
This motherfucker is about to do some shit...
Hoooooooly!!
They shoulda done the fake punt

Baker finna get Yes Chef'd
What were the terms again? I thought it was Bowl or bust (or both?)
make it to nfc championship

@pulsar trail im here for the pants shitting video

id be happy with just a video of you being happy
So we need to make an announcement for the official "Oxi shits his pants live" event.
One of the Shadows get on that.


22 years later, Lions make it to another NFC championship game
Math is hard for me, ok?
sheesh
are these lions actually superbowl contenders?
is my father going to see the detroit lions in a superbowl in his lifetime?
that's wild
What happens if they make it to the SB?





















