PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE A WAY TO PRESS FOR AUTOMATIC UPLOAD.

[merry isle]

ngl you are part of the 1% no actually you are part of the 0.001%

no one plays for as long as you do

your problem is literally a fix for 0.001 of players

i dont mean to sound salty but thats 7 million dusts per click

[rare light]

On a casual day, everyone tries to get as far as they can, and when that day comes, they will spend more time wasting dust and gold than actually progressing through the levels. I am from the future, coming to show you this problem.

[lone junco]

when that day comes they'll think "oh damn, seems like im past where the game is built for" and continue playing

[merry isle]

well i am from the present and i say i will not waste my time doing 10 million minutes for a run

[fading crow]

it does seam a little absurd...

[merry isle]

the devs time would rather be spent doing something more productive than fixing a bug for the 0.001 of playerbase

[lone junco]

first first first world problems

[merry isle]

why not set a script to auto click

while its doing its thing why not touch some grass too

[lone junco]

may be a week long run tbf

[merry isle]

a 0.001 fix for the 0.001 of players

[lone junco]

now with saves

[rare light]

Friend, put that system I recommended in the game, it won't disrupt your 30-minute runs. So stop looking at it like it's something bad and help improve the little game for us.

[merry isle]

if i was the dev id question myself on why i should even work on this issue

yes looping can be as long as you want

but its just not for everyone

[fading crow]

so im confused whats actually happening here? whats the bug? whats the suggestion?

i didnt get any of that from the message

[merry isle]

he wants it so that you wont have to manually click to upgrade your memories/essences at late late late late late late late late late game

[fading crow]

ic ty

[rare light]

Friend, you haven't seen half of the problems I've seen in a long run. You're still at the beach while I'm swimming in a deep sea. There's a lot that needs to change, and the first of them is the simplification of the horrible mechanics that the game has with potions and gold. As I said, back in 2002 there were games with a better leveling system, and asking for money isn't something I'm requesting to be a creator, just to make it better.

[merry isle]

well have fun swimming ig?

[lone junco]

you do understand that the game is balanced around 2-3 loops right

and anything beyond is just the dev letting you go ham with no promises

[merry isle]

if you keep referring to year 2002 go play wc3

ive heard the devs played that/ made ar eference to that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

with primus looking like arthas and all

[lone junco]

like okay asking for some small qol doesn't hurt anyone but you make it sound like this is a critical issue and that it devalues the game

which is crazy

[nimble plank]

Autoclicker Macro doesn't work? Or is there an input hard limit?

[merry isle]

thats what im saying

just set a script

[nimble plank]

Sorry I didn't read convo just title

And commented

Glance value solution

[merry isle]

well u got it immediately

[mighty crane]

holy entitled post, ts is not even worth looking at.

[merry isle]

got the nerve to put it on all channels as well

as if hes gonna get a positive feedback

[fading crow]

i mean there are plenty of games where once you get to the last stage you cant go again so its cool the devs are nice and let you go for another loop with the same build. but if youre gonna complain on the 55th loop idk what to say.

[nimble plank]

I haven't gotten to this point but if there is an input limit then I kinda agree, it doesn't seem like a massive issue to change it. But this does seem like a bit of a dramatic response

[fading crow]

i mean its mostly the fact he was condesending abt it tho

[lone junco]

its the type of person who would be annoyed that they reach integer and it breaks the game

[merry isle]

im surprised they havent overflowed something honestly

[lone junco]

💀

together we can save the game

add one auto upgrade for when you have 6m dust

[merry isle]

xd

we need paranoia for upgrades

👨‍🍳 🔥

[near mango]

a few things
I would have suggested to just put a x10 x50 option to upgrade but the whole demeanor of "you use your feet while I use the fork to eat" type behaviour just made me stare into oblivion like
buddy this is not rocket science, your issue and what you present isn't some who knows what quantum maths, so chill with that kind of wording

that being said, something similar to what I suggested could be popped if the devs go for it

[rare light]

Friend, if you don't have the ability to get 6 million dust, don't cry. I'm not the only one who managed to do it, and I won't be the last. If you can't do it, that's okay, but don't think it's impossible.

[lone junco]

refer to the previous point about what the game is designed around

[near mango]

bro thinks we cry about his cocaine

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[lone junco]

if you can't understand that then idk

also adding friend at the start of messages won't make your argument better

[fading crow]

ok but thats not what hes saying.

the only one crying here isnt included in the 6 of us disagreeing with you

[near mango]

chill with that narcissism bud, you ain't impressing anyone with basic game ideas

[fading crow]

is what it is no point in staying in this chat lmao

[nimble plank]

Solution is to try a macro. If there is an input limit in the game, make a new thread with a comprehensible title and less narcissism and maybe devs will get to it in a future QOL update.

The entire demeanor and attitude of this guy is just so strange.

[near mango]

just suggest x10-50-100/n upgrade and call it a day or just macro your game away

[lone junco]

or hold ctrl click to spend all dust on the upgrade. Tho the game might not be able to calculate the cost all at once. Idk if this is a basic thing or not.

[near mango]

shrug

[rare light]

You don't need to spend everything, but holding on and consuming little by little would be a good start, don't you think?

[lone junco]

i guess? Its still a very pointless feature for most people but it would do something here

if anything this is a sign of how they went wrong with spectral bullet, which is a loop of spending dust to generate more dust. Should probably give gold instead or something

[merry isle]

or make it have even more disgusting diminishing returns

so diminishing its not even worth

[lone junco]

you'd still be printing resources for no real good reason

when you look at essence of wealth nerf, its a sign that its not really something they want

back in the demo it was like 1g per quality upgrade

[merry isle]

predation nerf waiting room ---> 🪑 🪑 🪑 🪑 🪑 🪑

[lone junco]

the coop meta used to be world cracker with wealth

hundreds of gold per room doing nothing

they got rid of it

somehow you can print dust

xd

[rare light]

Going back to the point in the game when you want to send gold to someone or whatever, the mechanic of holding to send is already there. The mechanic is already in the game, you just have to implement it when leveling up.

I'm not asking them to stop the development of the game. Just to improve it, and another bad thing is that you have to send money in round amounts. Sometimes the guy needs 3 gold and you have to send 10 at the beginning of the game; every coin makes a difference.

[stuck lichen]

that could be a opt in option yes
but dude you went into all the chats thinking its some kind of grandiose issues while its a minor issue for basically no one
holding to lvl up is something you wont do with limited resources

it might even be detrimental to game experience so i can only see it as a very niche opt in option in the menus

[vivid steeple]

[rare light]

Friend, the basics are grandiose, the stone of skill, all of this I may be lucky or not to find in a run, leveling up my character is guaranteed and that is what is most important.

Every skill that bugs the game is only above a certain level; all the stones only stay broken above a certain level. And for everyone to see these things, you first have to level these things up.

[livid mist]

Yeah spamming such a minor issue as this in all the chats with a caps locked post is pretty questionable.

In fact im now hoping they never change it or better actively make it take more time to spend that much dust. Starting a petition to add a 0.1s delay between spending dust.

[rough gale]

Hey now, let's not let our friend affect the game us mere mortals are playing.
I'm perfectly content with them never changing it though

[merry isle]

wdym ur not part of the 0.001

how dare you

[gentle berry]

My thing with it is, at a +1,300 upgrade level on a Memory, I'm fairly certain that's a very long, very drawn-out run on who knows what number loop. At that point, I'm not sure the pittance of time saved by speeding up upgrade transactions is really gonna amount to anything. It's not like you're in a dire need to shave off a couple more seconds to beat a speed run record or anything. I dunno, just seems a little pointless to me. /shrug

[rare light]

Okay buddy, do this: enter your next run and split your 1000 dust to use 4 stones and 3 skills that you're carrying, because clearly you don't invest all the dust into a single thing, you like to divide it equally, I understand.

[rough gale]

Ah shoot, my bad
I'm scared of the deep ocean, I'm just a filthy beach boi lmao

[merry isle]

we just filthy landlubbers fr

we are not meant to sail the high seas

[gentle berry]

I dunno about you guys but I am content on land.

[rare light]

I already understood that you will never gather 1 million dust, you don't need to be frustrated. Clearly, you have already found bugs or better ideas for the community, right?

[merry isle]

i did have better ideas for the game

i posted it in ideas to which you responded

and you "lied"

[lone junco]

shapes 4.0 update with infinite dps checks will absolutely need this. The hero we don't deserve ran so one day we can fly 🥀

[merry isle]

i actually made my post and organized it as well in a readable manner

pardon me for being a filthy landlubber

[rough gale]

I'm good, thanks!
I'm having a blast with both my rookie feetsies on the sand while poking fun at an upset, majestic shark far out in the ocean

[livid mist]

Theres finding bugs and theres spamming a non-problem in every channel and then being super condescending that other people will never "swim as deep as you".

Like good on you, finding and suggesting something to improve your super niche gameplay experience. Stick it in ideas. leave it for a dev to find job done.

Dont waste every other persons time with spamming it in every chat like its a thing that matters for bascially anyone else. Because im now begging any dev that sees this: do not change a thing, if your job is to implement this take an extra break, fix any other bug or issue and ignore this one, ill even buy you a cookie if you do.

[unique reef]

The dev has said the game is meant to be played forever. Balance just isn't there after like 2 worlds

It is definitely frustrating that you need an autclicker to level things up lategame. I'm not sure what the fix would be that isn't weird for the majority of people though

It does happen a lot sooner than people realize though. I was in this boat in only a 3 hour run

[lone junco]

do you end up with hundreds of thousands of dust without spectral bullet tho

in 3h i mean

[unique reef]

I haven't used bullet. I don't like being locked in place

It's in situations where you have a low level essence that you decide to level up

Gotta click like 200 times

[rare light]

It's really annoying, the worst part is that they defend it as if they were in a fight to see who is right lol I want a system that helps everyone and these guys think it's only useful for me.

[lone junco]

don't forget that you went on a crusade spamming on every channel like the world was about to end

[livid mist]

Oh no its definitely a quality of life improvement for a small subset of players, but spamming in every chat like you did is just insufferable so I want it to stay how it is purely out of spite

[stuck lichen]

its super niche and some people just hold left click while considering stuff or to move stuff
so where do you draw the line when it should continously upgrade or not
thats why its more of an opt in suggestion rather than a general QoL

[vivid steeple]

ooohhh, now i get it, its about the Upgrading memos, i was so confused why he wanted to automated the uploads
my bad

[stuck lichen]

upgrading essences and memories after you abused spectral bullet for a world

[rare light]

I mute Discord and do not suffer from this problem

[lone junco]

not the point

just don't pretend you are a victim who got harassed for no reason

[rare light]

you're the one who talked about this point.

[rare light]

I am more scared than the argument you use to not accept the facts that the click-based upgrade system could indeed be better. Just because I shared it on all channels.

[gleaming hull]

Yeah, it could be better and more user friendly for incredibly long runs. But I don't think it's a priority because most runs aren't that long

[rare light]

Indeed, this benefits longer runs more but also benefits shorter runs, no one is dividing 1000 essence or 50 or 500, usually everyone levels everything in one thing only. My question is, will this consumption hold system disrupt the game for those who play small runs?

[unkempt marten]

Alright, I’ll weigh in here. Your idea isn’t bad, it would definitely improve quality of life. However, it primarily benefits players who spend an unusually large amount of time on a single run. For shorter runs, the improvement is still there, but much less impactful.

That means the “fix” would really only affect a tiny fraction of the player base, maybe 0.01%. From a developer’s perspective, it’s usually not worth allocating time to such a niche feature unless there are no higher priorities at the moment.

[willow kraken]

Reporting bugs in broken english kinda defeats the accuracy of the statement you are trying deliver.

[rare light]

As a game moderator and game enthusiast, I'm going to be real with you and everyone who reads this from now on. This is not something that would take more than 2 minutes to implement. Another point is the pressing mechanic (it's already in the game, but only at the moment when you send money to other players), so yes, it is not useful unless you are in multiplayer. But if you think the game should focus first on the big problems, then you are completely wrong, because if the game can't make small adjustments, logically it won't be able to make the big ones.

If they notice and do this, I will have confidence that they will improve and adjust more complicated things. Or they will just remove it for being too complicated. But the point is, for me to trust that they will do big things, I need to see them fix the small ones.

[unkempt marten]

Let's get something straight: They don't owe you anything, and they don't need to earn your trust.

Your logic is flawed. Just because they haven't fixed one small 'problem' (i don't know why you even call it that - its more QoL) doesn't mean they're incapable of handling major issues. That's a massive leap.

And the claim that it 'only takes 2 minutes' to implement is a classic sign of someone who's never worked on a large-scale project. Sure, they might be able to reuse code from another system, but without seeing their architecture, that's pure speculation. You're making a lot of assumptions without any real insight.

Look, I hope you get the feature, but I wouldn't count on it. Let's end this conversation, shall we?

[rare light]

Of course they should, I'm not playing a free game. Just like you, I paid and I want the best possible experience.

If you think the game is good the way it is, that's your opinion. If you don't agree, okay, that's your opinion too. I'm just presenting facts here: I reached floor 100, yes, and have already seen more than 20 bugs. But as I said, bugs may not occur. Now, the fact that I have to click more than 200 times to level up a skill with what the game itself provides is crap — it's annoying and makes long runs more about how you spend the essence than actually playing. And if you don't know this, go play a long run. I've had over 500 in short runs, but it was in the long runs that I started seeing the real problems of the game. I recommend it: go play a long run and come back here and tell me it's not crap.

[near mango]

cool buddy now wait until they decide whether they wanna add it or not

unnecessary talk continuation

[elfin oyster]

holding on and consuming little by little would be a good start
the humble 'Hold to Confirm Memory Edit' option that has existed since release within the Settings page under the Gameplay tab:

[rare light]

(explaining in a dumb way) having to press + 10 times always to level up is fun

[elfin oyster]

you're asking for a holding option to upgrade your Memories and Essences.

...

that's what 'Hold to Confirm Memory Edit' does.

[rare light]

Really?

[rare light]

I have 20 million dust to spend. If I enter the game now and activate this, will I be able to?

[elfin oyster]

it's in the Settings page, under the Gameplay tab.

by default it is set to 'Sell only', but you can change it to 'All' to make it affect upgrading as well.