I quit

[dull raven]

It's getting a nerf probably chill out

The update is brand new, its not going to be perfect right now

[dim gull]

what sewerexplorer said + there are upgrades in the tech tree that boost damage

[nimble pewter]

If you hate the buffs so much get them yourself, honestly the perks were just mainly for monster hunting when going to loot stuff

[shadow matrix]

Honestly that doesn’t sound like a bad idea now people can just spam throwing bombs

[long niche]

I guess understandable game balancing is the silver lining

[unborn rose]

I have to use like 4 recovers with the 8 bullet upgrade for me to kill one

[glass valley]

Skill issue it's not that serious🥀 💔

[light oyster]

Its not a skill issue i have skill with my aim but thay ruined it

[nimble pewter]

How did thay ruin it

[shadow matrix]

They add auto reload so the nerf kinda needed and no offense but it’s not hard to aim I have literally seen 5 years olds shoot people down from the sky

[shadow matrix]

Plus now people can’t just spam revolvers and get a kill and try close combat it’s actually really fun in my opinion

[past seal]

Then upgrade your gun

[nimble pewter]

the damage perks are for pvp and monsters

it is does any better there's the health perks

thats understandable

maybe a perk for critical hits on monsters for special strikes?

yeah but its mainly because of rocket spammers and people who just strike

if pvp is really an issue you can do private lobbies/no pvp

i see understand that part

tried killing employee of the year

and it took like 2 revolvers to weaken it

i also did an experiment with a friend

and the guns are now just nerf blasters

biggest damage dealers rn are just the rockets

[glass valley]

I didn't say anything about your aim

[blazing mica]

Yeah I somewhat agree. I pulled out a revolver in back lots (didn't know they nerfed it) I shot a dude, emptied the whole revolver, he said "you can return the nerf blaster to your nearest toy store" or somth like that

[mighty onyx]

he aura farmed you 💀

yall just need to adapt to the new meta instead of sticking to a dead one

[topaz flint]

So use a stick

[plucky marsh]

crying over pixels btw

stole what i said btw

bro cant make anything up sad

[topaz flint]

Are you allergic to sticks

Sticks are fun

RIP revolvers

[mighty onyx]

adapt to the meta

[jolly raft]

Yeah but I don’t know how you manage to throw the entire PvP system off, kill Arena completely, and make PvP unplayable in just one “not perfect” update

[jolly raft]

That’s why I quit Warzone for the entire BO6 year. Too meta focused.

[young quail]

just use axe + crossbow it's literally a one-time purchase with nuts (assuming you don't lose it)

only needs 3 hits too and you don't need to reload

[jolly raft]

Wait you can pull an axe back when shooting it from a crossbow?

[young quail]

yea

[jolly raft]

Wait that’s meta asf

I gotta do that, thanks man that completely fixed it for me.

[young quail]

yw 👍

[dull raven]

Arena is definitely going to get buffed, otherwise the pvp is perfectly fine in public lobbies

[jolly raft]

No it isn’t

[dull raven]

Yes it is?

[jolly raft]

It takes 6 shots to die

[jolly raft]

Revolvers kill in 6 shots

[dull raven]

That's a great amount for pvp lmao

[jolly raft]

So it should cost 500 per kill?

[dull raven]

Most melee takes 6+ hits

It's now balanced, also considering its guns

[jolly raft]

That’s why guns aren’t melee weapons. Of course they’re gonna be more powerful.

Or at least they should

[dull raven]

Exactly, and they are lol

Tell me a melee that's more powerful then guns

[jolly raft]

None

Some melees are equal though

[dull raven]

Which are?

[jolly raft]

You said melees will take 6+ hits

Six is equal

[dull raven]

That's an estimate, not an actual ammount

It's my guess

[jolly raft]

Sure

But tell me why it should require a full mag to kill a player. It would maybe be fine if the magazine sizes were buffed, but it’s starting to become VR Call of Duty with its TTK

[dull raven]

They are buffed with upgrades though

You can have up to 8 ammo

& auto reload

Anyway, I'll go now it's late

[jolly raft]

They did 6 shots with the damage buffs for me

[dull raven]

Good night or day

[elder root]

Rpgs counter all- bombs counter revolver - revolver counters melee and melee counters bombs

Nothing counters RPGs

[unborn rose]

Dodge counters it if your far away and they shoot it at you I do it all the time but if it's a boomspear then cooked

[elder root]

Boomspears counter rpgs

Boomspears are the strongest weapons

[unborn rose]

Yes but sturdy upgrade beats boomspear cus you still live at full health and if your opponent only has a boomspear and nothing else no ammo you can kill

[elder root]

most ppl who use boomspears use two at once

doesnt matter lmao

[unborn rose]

Umbrella and fart can

Boomspear usless is it can't hit a surface

And if your in the sky

Can bore them

[elder root]

Its too specific

[unborn rose]

And if you have something that can kill them then done

Still I'm not lying you can just use the umbrella and have the double jump and win

[elder root]

As a nade main, cool

[dull raven]

You can avoid rpgs & they don't 1 shot anymore, so that's cool

[topaz flint]

Except boom spear

[dull raven]

Boom spear?

[topaz flint]

Boomspear almost always one shots

[dull raven]

The the rpg 2.0?

[topaz flint]

Pretty much

[dull raven]

Eh, it does deal a lot more damage but you can also survive it if they miss by a bit

[topaz flint]

I can have one boomspear and no one survives

[dull raven]

It leaves you with like 5 hp from my experience

[ebon peak]

its not game balance. all it did was make it overpriced

the difference between gun are rpgs is that guns have always had a good counter

[long niche]

woahh, the guns that make the enemies in this horror game useless are expensive and take time to get???

[ebon peak]

its not a horror game

[ebon peak]

im not complaning that the guns are expensive i complaining that its not longer strong enough to be worth 5000 nuts

[ebon peak]

but it litrally not

[long niche]

then pick a different weapon. the guns are ridiculously overpowered to begin with since you have soo much range with them

its called balancing

[hearty salmon]

wahhh i cant instakill with revolver wahhh" sums up this post

[ebon peak]

no it more who no it ins,t worth the price. sums post

also by the way most of the time it isnt a one hit

consider this. i shot someone six time and somehow kill them. then even with upgrade i wont have enough to kill a secoand person

the only have to dodge 3 shot with updgrade to render the weapon useless

you cant just lower a weapon damage and expect it to be balanced

[ebon peak]

making a weapon useless is not balancing it making a weapon useless

[ebon peak]

your acting like there is 5000 other ranged weapons to choose from

atmosphereico is typing oh boy

[long niche]

does it kill things? yes. not useless
the reason it costs so much is because of the range

[long niche]

thats why the few ranged ones are expensive bro

[ebon peak]

its in no way effectint

[long niche]

its something that no other weapon has

[ebon peak]

agreed

but why use a weapon that not just not proticattly strong and can only effectivly be used once

nerfing a weapon is more then just cutting damage in half and expecting it too be balanced

[long niche]

what? not only can you buy bullets, but theres new tech tree upgrades that auto reload from your backpack

[ebon peak]

ya but now you spending more nuts then you already were

what happend to buy revolver and done

[long niche]

well balancing isn't a science either. the devs arent omniscent and can predict exactly what will work.
Even despite it being not perfect, its still more balanced than previously

[ebon peak]

its a low ammo weapon

it was high damage for a reason

and as far as them not knowing they could have at least tested

[long niche]

they probably did. its just that some issues are way more apparent when you have thousands of players playing instead of a handful

[ebon peak]

post people use revolver

[long niche]

they probably put their worries aside since theres literally so many other weapons

[ebon peak]

tell me on ranged weapon that isn,t bomb arrow rocket luancher or boom spear

[long niche]

brother i literally just told you that i KNOW theres only a handful of ranged weapons

also kinda dumb to say "tell me another ranged weapon without saying these other ranged weapons"

[ebon peak]

you said there litrally so many other ranged weapons

[long niche]

i say other WEAPONS

never said ranged

just weapons

[ebon peak]

ok

but what im saying is that they nerfed a one of a kind weapon

to the point it nowhere near worth it price

both player and monster and close the gap quickly enough to wear the revolver isn,t actully that op

[jolly raft]

its just a new nerf, it should be fixed or addressed at some point, just be patient.

also animal company wasn’t built for PvP in the first place, you crying about a feature they never intended is kinda funny

[long niche]

couldnt that thing about the players be said for most ranged weapons though?

like yeah, the shotguns have more spread and stuff, but players are SUPER unpredictable

your speed just depends on your skill

[ebon peak]

im also talking about pve

[long niche]

and even things with splash damage like the rpg will kill you too in close quarters

[ebon peak]

guess its a 1v2

i have unloaded my gun entirly into people and they have survived

[long niche]

hey wait isnt there also tech tree upgrades that increase your health too

[ebon peak]

this was on the first day so i dout they had health upgrades

this nerf would make sense if it was like a pistol with like 12 shots

[ebon peak]

i win

unkess your asleep

[jolly oak]

They need to bring back the original revolver and shotgun damage 🙁

[ebon peak]

i think six shot a kill would be balanced if they decreased price and increase ammo storage

you cant just change states and expect it to be balanced

[dull raven]

Idk where you're getting this information, since as long as I played there was a "PvP" and a "No PvP" server, now they did make it "ff" and "no ff" recently.

So they mightve not intended it right when the game was made, but then they decided to support it adding weapons & gamemodes for pvp.

But again, almost every game didn't intend to be what it is now, so this isn't a great argument.

[pallid lynx]

since i played there was not a pvp option just a number pad and then they added pvp and then changed it to friendly fire and no friendly fire/ ff and no ff and i know 100% that ac didnt mean to have pvp they just thought ooh lets add it so we can kill each other cuz it would be fun not pvp for comp and scam and make it harder for people to play then after they didnt want people who dont like pvp to have to go and have pvp on so they made ff and no ff

[jolly raft]

what i meant was more the fact that pvp/ff mode was added as a way to troll around, “back then” we didn’t even have crowbars, it was only shotguns or grenades as our weapons and that was mainly for the enemy.

Also remind me, Why is animal company called that and also has a selling system? Oh right. ITS MAIN FOCUS IS SELLING/EXPLORING/HORROR.

I said “never built for pvp in the first place. “ yes it has pvp, it mentions that, but it wasnt meant to be the bigger focus.

oh wait nevermind they did have crowbars actually, still, i didnt really need to say that to get my point across

[dull raven]

It's called pvp so it's pvp though, also it's more of a money grind game imo

You explore once and then it's pretty simple afterwards usually, though I still, haven't been to quite alot of maps so I am still exploring

Heck, I haven't fully explored sewers even, only been to 0 grav

[jolly raft]

I get that it use to say pvp but I don’t think they meant it literally, im pretty sure it was a prototype name because the game sent you into “pvp” lobbies first and still does, not everyone knows the best way to word stuff first try, hell, I didn’t even know what friendly fire even meant until I read what mode it was on the computer

[dull raven]

friendly fire is stupid imo

it shoulve stayed pvp imo

its like roblox naming friends to connections or games to experiences

stupid

[jolly raft]

not really, Not everyone actually uses friendly fire to just fight others. I’ve explored with a group of people in that mode multiple times now.

Pvp is the concept of fighting one another, friendly fire simply means its an option

roblox also did have a reason to change games into experiences, i forgot why though. and changing friends to connections makes it sound less scary/forced ig?

[dull raven]

connections sound way weirder

"wanna be my connection?"

[jolly raft]

well yeah can’t argue with that, i was mainly trying to make sense of it, not support roblox

[quasi trellis]

Did someone say silver?

[fallow hull]

honestly shotguns have sucked forever and now they nerfed them harder, along with revolvers doing close to nothing and grenades and crossbows becoming insanely overpowered

[jolly oak]

I think it’s more of a adventure game because there’s so much to explore and there is a game mode that is entirely for pvp but currently they nerffed guns so it’s hella boreing

[plucky marsh]

ig this suggestion was mediocre

[fallow hull]

the pvp mode is in ruins rn cs of the gun nerf

matched are below a minute and it’s a race to mine ores instead of pvp

[jolly oak]

EXACTLY

[fallow hull]

yeah

guns nerf was such a stupid idea

[ebon peak]

1 pvp is a main element of modern ac 2 ac is not a horror game 3 pvp even if it wasn,t originally ment it should still be taken into acount

[ebon peak]

i think a gun nerf would work if it had more ammo and wasn,t so expensive

[jolly raft]

it still technically is a horror game, just because you dont find it scary doesn’t mean others dont

[jolly oak]

The reason why it’s expensive is because the gun is very strong and far ranged. But it’s worthless now because they nerfed the guns

[ebon peak]

ITS NOT TAGGED HORROR ON THE OCLUS STORE there are no real horror elements. your just a wimp finding a quite ordinary game scary

[jolly raft]

firstly, didnt know that, please dont yell at me

secondly, they very clearly hinted at the horror element in the description of the game so they probably ran out of tags that they could use

Thirdly, i never mentioned that I find the game scary, no clue where you came up with that.

also if we’re gonna be playing that game now, the game doesn’t have a pvp or any fighting related tags. So, By your logic, the games also not related to pvp in the slightest apparently.

You failed to notice the fact that using this stupid logic also removes what you used it for

and before you mention action, In gaming, "action" refers to a genre of games centered on physical challenges that require high-speed reflexes and hand-eye coordination, often involving fast thinking and fast-paced movement. Action doesn’t straight up mean fighting. It just means high alert-like gameplay

now try to tell me what your point of saying that was.

[ebon peak]

my point is that horror is not a main point of ac

[jolly raft]

the description hints at a horror element, so whats your point still

A single tag missing doesn’t count

the game is filtered with dark rooms and disfigured monsters that scream at us, chase us, and deal damage

I dunno about you man, but that sounds like a horror game, even if it isn’t technically “scary”

[topaz flint]

Go through daycare with only a stick and you will see

No flashlights

[jolly raft]

eh, i ran through there with no gear before several times

I think something more scary is trying to find the haunted house with no gear

or trying to crawl through the vents

the game isnt scary thanks to all the gear we have

[plucky marsh]

he should of used his brain

[ebon peak]

your weapon dosn,t matter none of the monster take damage anyways

[ebon peak]

i disagree

[winter nest]

ANIMAL COMPANY IS A H O R R O R GAME!!!😔

[ebon peak]

i disagree

[winter nest]

Its based off lethal company.

[ebon peak]

it take relatively light insperation

[winter nest]

It was heavily inspired by it in the start. They just changed it too much.

[ebon peak]

well id argue that even if it was heavily inspired in the start it has heavily diverged

[winter nest]

Its still a horror game

[ebon peak]

in what way. the game is obviously not serous. its a game where you play as a gorilla with no legs capable of using a 12 gage

[winter nest]

Then what is the main point of ac if its not horror

[ebon peak]

going to goofy places and getting stuff to get { insert generic currency here} and deal with monster

[winter nest]

Ok that's kinda good. I'd agree with that. I thought u were about to say trading🥀

[ebon peak]

id imagin a actual horror game would be serous

[winter nest]

Yeah, I mean part of what make ac, ac is the goofiness. The horror kinda comes along with the adventures.

[ebon peak]

ya very little of the game is actual scary or intends to be

[jolly raft]

i mean its hard to be scared when you have a literal nuke in a gun, an endless amount of light, food that literally makes you twice the size of said monsters, and gears that either let you stay on the roof or teleport yourself out of the entire map and fly to the end

the game used to be scary when our only defence was a melee item and a shotgun that only dealt damage like 10/5 feet away and we had to be on the same floor that the monsters were instead of straight up flying past them

[young quail]

invincible monster that chases you really fast would be sick

[jolly raft]

remove the invincible part

[pallid lynx]

dats any monster

[jolly raft]

maggot, clown, plushy*

theres only two unkillable monsters

and maggot has hugeee health

[pallid lynx]

bro u said remove the unkillable part thats like any monster

[jolly raft]

i dont want an unkillable flash to end my life because i touched the same floor as him 🙏

[pallid lynx]

if there was a way to move fast or kill unkillable things then it would be valid to make him unkillable to certain things

[jolly raft]

either way, back to the original topic, this guy shouldn’t be quitting now anyways because pvp is back to normal

I think thats why they simply deleted the message

[jolly raft]

because all he needed was a bit of patience