#The absurd power of revolvers and how to fix it

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atomic plover
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i play in pvp codes very often and from what i have realized is that not only are revolvers very easy to aim but they also do way too much damage. I have all of the health upgrades in the game and a headshot from the revolver kills me instantly, 3 shots to the body kills me too. that crazy damage paired with the incredibly small cooldown and pinpoint accuracy makes the revolvers far too overpowered in a pvp situation. I believe this could be fixed in a multitude of ways and i will list them, nerfing damage, adding things like bullet drop and slightly inconsistent aiming, and firing cooldown.

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im gonna keep messaging here so more people can see it

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lalalalala

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lalalalala

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yohooooo

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someone talk here lalalala

clever zephyr
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Wth do you mean 'health upgrades'

atomic plover
runic arrow
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breaking: animal company player learns that getting shot in the head is mildly lethal

/s the revolver 100% needs a nerd

atomic plover
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things can be unrealistic for gameplay sake

hushed furnace
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❌ reason:
It's a gun what do you expect?

atomic plover
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things can be unrealistic for balanced gameplay

atomic plover
wise oar
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.

atomic plover
wise oar
atomic plover
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dude yall are haters im right

runic arrow
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i also dont really like the inconsistent aim

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its accurate but i feel like the revolver should be skill based instead of luck

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fair enough

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fanning the hammer, although it can damage the gun

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theres no max speed for a gun

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theres something you can do with a revolver called "fanning the hammer" which allows you to shoot much faster but can damage the revolver

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its done by holding down the trigger and using your offhand to pull back the hammer multiple times

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it shoots much quicker but you can damage the cylinder or your hand

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or both actually

atomic plover
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what im saying is yes the revolver is realistic in damage but its overpowered in a pvp scenario

runic arrow
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maybe, depends on the user

hollow fractal
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Its a game dude 💀

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That's stupid. Its a revolver bro at that it can slam fire bro. Putting a cool down on revolver destroys the purpose of it even being a revolver let alone a pistol.

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Nothing is wrong with revolver just needs a damage nerf thats it

hollow fractal
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Says you dude

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Play the victim all you want. Big ego guy, go do something

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Whatever helps you cope with your life.

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🥱 you done yet go to bed lil bro you trying too hard

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Yep means go to bed like you said

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Nah bro our chat ended a minute ago

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Go do something else

hollow fractal
hollow fractal
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Boring

atomic plover
autumn gull
atomic plover
autumn gull
atomic plover
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im not talking about arena dude

autumn gull
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In a situation where you shoot a monster the revolver is perfectly balanced so there is no reason to nerf it

atomic plover
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you arent making much sense

autumn gull
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I can’t be bothered to explain the difference between them

atomic plover
autumn gull
hollow fractal
atomic plover
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thats weird to say

hollow fractal
atomic plover
hollow fractal
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Bro thats wild

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Get off discord please

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We dont need people like you

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🙏

atomic plover
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those who argue with teenagers on discord

hollow fractal
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Womp womp

runic arrow
hollow fractal
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If he wants to talk trash I will talk back, I dont care if he is a minor

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Bro took it that way so it's on him

atomic plover
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get a life dude ur a grown man

hollow fractal
hollow fractal
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Why does everyone wanna fight like jeez bro

runic arrow
# autumn gull “Adventure is not a PvP game so if you’re bothered by this either play arena or ...

arena isnt the same as adventure pvp
lets see here, adventure:
has a regular hammer system instead of spam shooting
doesnt have rounds
is a much bigger map
doesnt force you to dedicate the entire game to breaking crystals on the other team, you just gotta kill the other player
allows you to pick whatever weapon you want rather than being confined to revolvers, shotguns and the few drops you get from scrap clusters
allows you to run out of ammo instead of no-stakes spam shooting

should i keep going

runic arrow
hollow fractal
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Bro

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I dont care anymore

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If everyone wants to just be a prick im gonna say something

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That's it

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He took it that way not me. I was tryna tell him to piss off go complain about someone else

lime mason
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The revolver should always be a one shot headshot, and a 2 shot to the body, but the AA needs a nerf badly. Because it's such an adapted to thing, that having a police shield on your back will make it harder to hit even the riot shield. Ofc shooting the shield won't do damage, I'm saying the AA won't even guide toward where the shield is.

lime mason
floral dagger
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ts has build in aimbot and its easy to snipe with

lime mason
floral dagger
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what the flip is an aa

lime mason
lime mason
floral dagger
lime mason
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I shot someone who had my Kevlar after they killed me, and I could tell that my Aim Assist was dwindling

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Kevlar is a vest

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I made it in AC by attaching riot shields to make a vest that covers all sides of you

floral dagger
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shields dont protect you from revolvers i think

hollow fractal
lime mason
autumn gull
lime mason
lime mason
autumn gull
# lime mason oh

I don’t want them to be the se in all game modes I’m saying that a nerf to the revolver in adventure would make it unusable anywhere but killing other people (Only in adventure)

lime mason
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well, their damage is fine, it only needs to be one shot headshot, and it just needs an AA nerf.

lime mason
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all it needs is an AA nerf and to be one shot to the head at all times

autumn gull
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Thats just how revolvers work?

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It’s not half a second and yes it is possible to empty a revolver very fast

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I couldn’t but there are people that can

runic arrow
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someone shot 12 out of a six shooter in less than 3 seconds

autumn gull
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Yo what are you saying 🙏

runic arrow
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fair enough, but i believe canonically the employees are adults, regardless of how old the player controlling them is

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definitely not

autumn gull
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The faster you can press the trigger on the back the faster you can fire it’s the same irl and it’s the same in AC 🙏

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“fair enough, but i believe canonically the employees are adults, regardless of how old the player controlling them is” - the guy you ignored like 10 min ago

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No, you just have to have little knowledge abt guns to know how fast you can fire a revolver

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It’s a game it doesn’t have to be 100% accurate bro

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When were guns ever fair

floral dagger
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🐔

autumn gull
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It’s so useless to argue with u

runic arrow
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the button that pulls the hammer back also controls the player's thumb
if you hold down that button while not holding anything, your thumb in game will tuck inwards
meaning that is a completely valid gesture

runic arrow
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fair, but also revolver hammers just arent that hard to pull back?

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it really doesnt take that much longer, and as i said its pretty easy
a 7yo might need to put more effort in but they could do it

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it takes probably less than half a second longer, pulling back the hammer on a revolver is easy
trust me, ive done it

runic arrow
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honestly its really not any slower
and even if it is, it doesnt add up enough to make a noticable difference by the sixth shot

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you can pull the hammer back about as fast as you can push the top face button

runic arrow
atomic plover
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i do get a shot to the head by a revolver would kill you irl but when i get shot with a rpg i survive

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things can be unrealistic for gameplay sake

sly coral
hazy jay
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none of these "nerfs" are actually good like

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making it impossible to aim, just dumb
nerfing damage, the most reasonable but still kinda dumb
firing cooldown, I guess but like they cant make it more than 0.5 to 1 so still not the best fix
bullet drop, uh if we are talking realism after all like it would be hard to code and still a bad fix since well almost everyone shoots a revolver when they are close.

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sure nerfing it is possible i wouldn't really care but like none of the ones you listen are actually that good

autumn gull
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There is a difference between those

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Trajectory

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The clip just falls and the bullet has to have a pre determined route in order to fall a certain amount after being fired

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Wait I forgot about arrows

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Then they would just copy and paste the arrow drop speed it up

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Much easier then coding it from scratch

runic arrow
autumn gull
runic arrow
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theres a line that just damages whatever touches it when the trigger is pulled

autumn gull
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They could reuse the model of the previous bullet even if it’s just vfx

atomic plover
hazy jay
hazy jay
atomic plover
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i said add slight inaccuracy like real world guns have

hazy jay
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Your head is higher so that's why it gives that effect

atomic plover
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im not arguing with an 11 year old

hazy jay
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Ya shouldn't be talking

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You don't even know a gun shoots where it is pointed at

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Holy brick 💔

atomic plover
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a bullet doesnt fire in a perfectly straight line irl

atomic plover
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im correct

flint crown
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It’s still a gun

flint crown
willow steeple
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maybe a bulletproof vest that takes up the back slot and protects you from some damage?

flint crown
# atomic plover im correct

Also since you want to talk abt realism taking into account that most likely the rpg-7 in this game is same size in irl then these animals are pretty small and these bullets in the revolver look actually identical to 9x19 parabellum aka 9mm and 9mm will kill an animal of this size if it gets shot in the head and three shots to vital organs into the torso will also prob kill them sooner or immediately and the revolver has a range limit in this game to prevent sniping with a 9mm also bullet drop would be extra server load aka more lag

flint crown
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Yea that would also help my case but it look really similar to 9mm

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Also rounded tip

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40cal usually has a flat tip

runic arrow
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iirc most revolvers use 45 acp

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or the one in animal company does

flint crown
runic arrow
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remember kids, the bullet type doesnt matter
the bones still dont like it when they get hit with a piece of metal flying at 100 mph

runic arrow
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at least when shot out of the gun

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in turns into a titanic orb of destruction, decimation and dispair

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what kind of revolver shoots 9mm

flint crown
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45 will def kill you quicker
9mm I think would still work for the ttk
40cal pretty likely but the rounded tips make me think otherwise

flint crown
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They go abt 800 mph

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Although it’s still slim for 45 tho I’m not sure

runic arrow
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chat hear me out

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what if the devs just looked up "bullet" and then put it into ac

flint crown
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It could be 380 acp too

floral dagger
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lowkey they gotta remove aim assist and the game would be 100x better

autumn gull
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It’s useless to argue with this guy his brain exploded when I told him this wasn’t a PvP game

floral dagger
autumn gull
autumn gull
autumn gull
floral dagger
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sometimes id play broke af to hunt down players in mines or in forest

dusk pawn
floral dagger
autumn gull
floral dagger
# autumn gull Why?

well first of all its an Instant kill and if you mix that with aim assist its an undodgeable aimbot machine

autumn gull
dusk pawn
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Sorry for the language

autumn gull
dusk pawn
floral dagger
dusk pawn
floral dagger
floral dagger
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I Do Not think he knows what he is Talking about

dusk pawn
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I know exactly what I'm talking about. If anyone's on meth, it should be you tbh

autumn gull
floral dagger
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"yeah its not op guys its not op"

dusk pawn
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As if the rocket launcher doesn't exist

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Dude, where are you trying to go with this

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You're going in circles on a straight path

floral dagger
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even baseball bat is better than rocket launcher

dusk pawn
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Alright, I don't play the game enough to know that, unlike someone here

floral dagger
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the nerfs been here for months it doesnt even instakil you anymore

dusk pawn
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How incredibly mad are you about people killing you from a point blank range that you have to fight for a revolver downgrade

autumn gull
floral dagger
autumn gull
floral dagger
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because they are in a pvp lobby they have the option to switch to no pvp

floral dagger
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Ah yes let me pack my RPG THAT IS A LITERAL NUKE

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FOR ONE SINGULAR MONSTER

autumn gull
dusk pawn
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Technically any weapon is a weapon of war

floral dagger
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who even brings a rpg on their adventure??

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like what do you plan to use it for??

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what do you plan to use a one use weapon that wasted 10k?

autumn gull
autumn gull
floral dagger
dusk pawn
floral dagger
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yall pulling ts out of your ahh bro

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idk what yall hoppin on

earnest crystal
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hi

floral dagger
autumn gull
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Yeah

dusk pawn
floral dagger
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the reason why i hate ts gun so much is when im trying to get rp and some random ahh dude comes up and oneshots me

autumn gull
dusk pawn
floral dagger
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and when im trying to pvp with baseball bats some dude just oneshots me with a revolver

floral dagger
dusk pawn
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*can't

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Forgot the apostrophe

floral dagger
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ong fr what if i just

dusk pawn
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Is that supposed to be a threat

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If so, I'm shaking in my boots fr

floral dagger
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no but i dont have to listen to your grammar corrections

dusk pawn
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I'm absolutely quivering

floral dagger
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ong

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ong just ignoired frfr

dusk pawn
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Ok

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I couldn't exactly care less, but ok

floral dagger
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og

dusk pawn
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Whatever floats your boat man

atomic plover
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he responded to me saying i can survive an rog but not a gunshot to the head with like 2 paragraphs

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its a discord argument i dont care that much

dusk pawn
atomic plover
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calling me dumb with an among us pfp

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loser

dusk pawn
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Judging people by their profile picture is wild

atomic plover
dusk pawn
atomic plover
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yikes

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ur assuming alot

wise oar
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.

flint crown
arctic jungle
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Lets say they did get more ammo more guns ITS STILL EASY TO DODGE JUST BE UNPREDICTABLE SNIPER THATS WHY SHIELDS EXIST MAN

atomic plover
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and shields dont block bullets btw

floral dagger
runic arrow
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p sure its hitscan

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there is a difference between dodging and causing a miss

wise oar
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Bro just shot 1 and missed every else (1 shot doesn't kill of it's at outer angles of player)

arctic jungle
runic arrow
floral dagger
runic arrow
arctic jungle
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i have lived alot thanks to that

runic arrow
arctic jungle
runic arrow
frigid oar
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With a game this laggy I doubt a projectile weapon would fit good in this game plus making a revolver shoot a fast projectile prolly won’t look right and they are good they way they are now in my opinion

hallow gorge
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Bump

arctic jungle
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i can even dodge without warning as long as i know they goin shoot

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at some point lolllll

main echo
runic arrow
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hitscans deal damage in a line INSTANTLY

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it is physically impossible to dodge a hitscan

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you can only make then miss

floral dagger
# arctic jungle i can and i just did lol

revolver is a literal laser gun that will damage you if it hit you in the direction it was shooting. theres no projectile just a laser that spawns in and checks if it hit you. so its really if youre lucky enough to survive not that youre skilled

arctic jungle
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Bro its easy pz to dodge IT ALWAYS WORKS WITH ME AND I CAN ALWAYS DODGE

atomic plover
fresh tide
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I feel that the shotguns need a realistically small nerf to match up with revolver

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Because lil Timmy's main it they they one tap

hallow gorge
arctic jungle
arctic jungle
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Just be unpredictable man

young crane
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if anything shotguns are op it good mobility if you fighting close range which is like 70% of the time if op

runic arrow
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gravity always works the same

runic arrow
median plank
runic arrow
arctic jungle
runic arrow
arctic jungle
runic arrow
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feinting a jump wont work, theyll wait until you actually do and then shoot where youll land

runic arrow
arctic jungle
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X_X you can go X Y Z from a top view learn how to use it

runic arrow
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it is impossible to move without going midair

arctic jungle
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so vert...

runic arrow
arctic jungle
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the gtag strategy when you go pure vertical you can dodge

runic arrow
arctic jungle
arctic jungle
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you can dodge

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by going left right and all around

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from a second overview dimension

runic arrow
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if they were aiming at you when they pulled the trigger, they will hit you no matter what

arctic jungle
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1 i see the bullets they are fast but just enough so you can dodge and just big enough so you can dodge all you have is a skill issue

runic arrow
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you can make them miss, but you cant dodge it

runic arrow
arctic jungle
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i've dodged like 100 bullets even 2 people shooting at me

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expirienced

runic arrow
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what are you not understanding

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the bullets are hitscan

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if you didnt take damage, THEY WERENT AIMING AT YOU

arctic jungle
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SO THEY DONT GOT MASTERED ULTRA INSTINCT JUST TO SHOOT YOU THEY DONT GOT A REACTION TIME OF 0 NANOSECONDS

arctic jungle
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SO YOU CAN DODGE

runic arrow
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THEY ARE MISSING

arctic jungle
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AND I AM DODGING

runic arrow
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YOU ARE NOT DODGING

arctic jungle
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YES YES I AM

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you know what this is a kindergarden fight

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im unfollowing and stop messaging me this idea is dumb sorry man you just have some sort of skill issu

runic arrow
arctic jungle
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i said i dont want you to message me now stop

runic arrow
arctic jungle
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I BRING A REVOLVER WITH ME ALWAYS

worn owl
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is this even apart of the revolvers

arctic jungle
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I KNOW WHEN TO SHOOT

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AND I DONT MISS AND PEOPLE DODGE

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I DODGE TOO SO IT IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE YOU JUST DUMB

runic arrow
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you can not dodge something that travels instantly

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you can trick them into MISSING

arctic jungle
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and also I TOLD YOU STOP MESSAGING ME IM OUT THIS IDEA IS DUMBER THAN YOUR LIFE

worn owl
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arguing over a weapon 💔😭

runic arrow
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which is what youre considering dodging

arctic jungle
worn owl
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thats wild 💔

arctic jungle
worn owl
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they js have good aim and if ur dying too much that js means ur trash

arctic jungle
runic arrow
worn owl
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ik ik

runic arrow
arctic jungle
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YOU JUST GOTTA DODGE THEM WHEN THEY PULL THE TRIGGER

runic arrow
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it damages instantly regardless of distance

worn owl
worn owl
arctic jungle
runic arrow
worn owl
arctic jungle
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BRO IS JUST DUMB 🙏😭

runic arrow
arctic jungle
worn owl
arctic jungle
runic arrow
arctic jungle
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USE A SHOTGUN USE ANYTHING ELSE
EVEN RPG

worn owl
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yo ur bein dumb with ur words

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theres no way ur complaining

runic arrow
worn owl
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and then ur saying its impossible to win without one

runic arrow
arctic jungle
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BUT NOOOOOOO YOU GOTTA NERF REOLVER BECAUSE "ITS TOO GOOD 🤓"

runic arrow
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that signifies bad weapon design

arctic jungle
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I HAVE SO MUCH FUN FIGHTING PEOPLE WITH REVOLVERS

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EVEN WILD WEST IS FUN

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AC'S EVENTS EVEN USE REVOLVERS ALOT

runic arrow
worn owl
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you can do sm things with a revolver

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and your complaining

arctic jungle
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SO WHY WOULD YOU NERF EVERYTHING PEOPLE LIKE

runic arrow
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i fought a guy who could kill you while flying mach 7 with a pogostick

arctic jungle
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WE ALL LIKE REVOLVERS

arctic jungle
runic arrow
worn owl
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ur being a mood killer to change one of the best things in the game

runic arrow
worn owl
arctic jungle
runic arrow
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also what happened to you wanting to leave?

arctic jungle
runic arrow
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doesnt seem like yer really trying to do that

runic arrow
arctic jungle
arctic jungle
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THIS AINT A FIGHTING GAME ITS LETHAL COMPANY MIXED WITH GTAG

runic arrow
runic arrow
arctic jungle
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THEY ADDED AREANA SO PEOPLE CAN FIGHT BECAUSE FOR FUN

arctic jungle
sharp quail
runic arrow
arctic jungle
runic arrow
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you are agreeing with this suggestion 😭😭

worn owl
arctic jungle
runic arrow
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i said everything else was unreasonable

sharp quail
runic arrow
arctic jungle
worn owl
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just like what chimp said

runic arrow
worn owl
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it's supposed to be powerful

runic arrow
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in fact i disagreed that damage should be reduced

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holy strawman 😭😭

sharp quail
arctic jungle
worn owl
runic arrow
worn owl
runic arrow
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all im asking for is slight bullet drop

worn owl
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they added recoil to reduce aim and your complaining

runic arrow
arctic jungle
sharp quail
runic arrow
runic arrow
arctic jungle
# runic arrow i forgot the revolver even had recoil, i never noticed it

THE ONLY TIME A REVOLVER ONE SHOTS IS WITH A HEAD SHOT AND A HEAD SHOT IS HARD TO PULL OF ANY TIME OF DAY BECAUSE YOUR ENEMY IS MOVING AROUND LIKE CRAZY TRYNA SHOOT YOU YOU FORGOT THIS IS A GAME ABOUT GTAG AND LETHAL COMPANY MIXED ITS SUPPOSED TO HAVE SCARY ITS SUPPOSED TO HAVE ALL THE OTHER STUFF BUT PEOPLE WANTED WEAPONS AND WANTED TO KILL EACH OTHER THEN THEY NERFED WHAT THEY ASKED FOR THEN YOU ARE REPEATING HISTORY

runic arrow
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all the gun needs is SLIGHT bullet drop

arctic jungle
worn owl
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they added weapons to make the game fun and now your complaining 💔

arctic jungle
worn owl
runic arrow
arctic jungle
runic arrow
arctic jungle
runic arrow
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its difficult to figure out where one idea ends and and another begins

arctic jungle
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AND EASY TO USE AGAINST ENEMIES AND PLAYERS

runic arrow
arctic jungle
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YOU DONT APPREACIATE WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE KILLING PEOPLE WITH REVOLVER IS HARD AND ITS EXITING WHEN YOU DO IT

runic arrow
arctic jungle
worn owl
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and revolver is so useful to the game it makes killing people so much fun

arctic jungle
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and one last thing before i go

arctic jungle
# runic arrow aight

there is lag when you shoot because the game needs to know what trigger got pushed and what to do so its just enough so you can dodge

runic arrow
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ill test that out later

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if i remember

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which i probably wont

arctic jungle
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revolvers arent as op as you thought huh?

runic arrow
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and it is likely unnoticable

arctic jungle
floral dagger
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bro does NOT know what a hitscan is

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BRO NEEDS TO TOUCH GRASS WHAT IS BRO DOING!?!? ☠️

atomic fable
atomic plover
atomic fable
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🤦‍♂️

young crane
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at this point you might aswell go out with your fist and box other people cuz you get clowned for using shotguns or pistols

arctic jungle