Holding r key to restart WITHOUT MODS will flicker black instead of fading | The Binding of Isaac | Page 1

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:35 PM

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It's horrible. I have nothing more to say, and it's been a quite time for such a lil problem

nimble pagoda Apr 22, 2026, 7:37 PM

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That's a mod breaking the shaders

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On modless it works just as normal

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:40 PM

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I've tried it without mods

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It's still flickers yes I reload it's still like this

nimble pagoda Apr 22, 2026, 7:41 PM

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Idk it doesnt for me

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:41 PM

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it probably does

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but its just a flicker

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the mod thing is full pitch black until the next run starts

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OP is just bad at describing the issue

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so it sounds the same

nimble pagoda Apr 22, 2026, 7:42 PM

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charred rover but its just a flicker

Still didnt notice it
but maybe idk

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:42 PM

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its subtleness is kind of random

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if you keep holding R you may notice it

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most of the time, its barely noticeable

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unlike the mod issue, which is VERY noticeable

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:46 PM

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charred rover unlike the mod issue, which is VERY noticeable

now I wasn't talking about it GET OUT

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Florians copy

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:46 PM

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what?

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you werent talking about it, bomber8/100 was

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:49 PM

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Now I'm talking ab it in my thread to not talk about it in their thread

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:49 PM

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which is the good thing to do

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sadly, you werent specific enough on the description

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so people will mistake it for the other thread

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:50 PM

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Okie dokie

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:51 PM

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also, I dont know what "insta black" is

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in reality what happens in vanilla, without mods, is that the fade out effect flickers....thats it

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:51 PM

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Holding r key to restart WITHOUT MODS will flicker black instead of fading

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:53 PM

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the main difference between the 2 issues is:

This one happens without mods
This one is only flickering instead of going full black
This one only affects the fadeout effect while the other affects several semi-transparent things across the board

pseudo comet Apr 22, 2026, 7:54 PM

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are they not related/caused by the same thing? it might be best to just group this thread with the other one and move the report there

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:54 PM

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I dont think they are necessarily related

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they both stem from changes on the renderer tho

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they added a new dll that may be messing shit up

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that ESO thing or whatever it is

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I didnt look that deep into it

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so, if you go deep down, yes, both stem from changes on the rendering....but they do not necessarily get fixed in the same way

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as the scope of the modding issue is far worse than this one

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:56 PM

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Now that makes them related, cause this problem occured on both mods and modeless users

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:56 PM

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no

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that doesnt make them related

pseudo comet Apr 22, 2026, 7:56 PM

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ill keep this thread open as a seperate one since i trust your judgement JSG

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:56 PM

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Why, the problem is from the same source

pseudo comet Apr 22, 2026, 7:56 PM

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just trying to reduce these threads where possible since we already have so many

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:57 PM

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stiff cloak Why, the problem is from the same source

no?

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they are both rendering issues

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:57 PM

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They are both

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:57 PM

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in the same way that a crash on the basement and a crash on the dark room can both be gameplay issues

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are they the same issue just because they stem from the same part of the engine?

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no

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just the fact that one only happens with mods on and the other happens regardless of mods being on gives a different enough setting for them to be separate

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:59 PM

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They came from it, the reason is the same it's just different effects, it's different cause mods being affected by it differently

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 7:59 PM

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and you say that based on?

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your gut feeling?

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 7:59 PM

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It came from something right, at the same time

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 8:00 PM

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yes all issues come from the game isaac

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does that mean that there is only 1 issue with the game?

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are all bugs the same bug?

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they all come from isaac after all

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 8:00 PM

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They got the same screen problem wich means that the problem is right from the whatever change that was made

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 8:01 PM

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no

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they dont have the same screen problem

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the mods issue affects a lot more than this one

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this one only affects the fadeout on holding R

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and not even in the same way the mod issue does

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I'd suggest you to enable a mod with shaders

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and see the differences

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it is not the same issue

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 8:02 PM

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I suppose after all, the thread name just

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Yeah

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 8:02 PM

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the mod issue affects:

Fade out being COMPLETELY BLACK (this is the only similarity)
The intro sequence
The console transparency
Some overall semi-transparent effects

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 8:03 PM

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Alright thanks for spending your time to explain it

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 8:03 PM

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now, thats not to say you couldnt create a single thread to cover both bugs

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but the way these 2 are redacted, doesnt do that

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if one redacted it like "Several issues regarding fade out and tranparency." and then proceded to list each and every issue I just mentioned

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it could work as a single thread

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the main reason why I feel like it would be pointless is because issues with mods are not prioritized at all

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so those probablt are better in their own thread

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if you want any chance of getting your vanilla issues fixed

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in a timely manner

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 8:06 PM

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Now I understand thank you, Jsg the Florians Evil twin!

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 8:07 PM

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wtf does that even mean?

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 8:07 PM

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Also da rules is showing wrong locust info

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 8:07 PM

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what?

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da rules doesnt even show locust info?, does it?

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 8:08 PM

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🤫

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Nu

charred rover Apr 22, 2026, 8:08 PM

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🤡

stiff cloak Apr 22, 2026, 8:08 PM

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bumbo_hang

quiet cave Apr 23, 2026, 4:57 PM

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footage of the bug + hardware information would be useful

charred rover Apr 23, 2026, 6:26 PM

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quiet cave footage of the bug + hardware information would be useful

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ha, interesting

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it does not show up in recorded footage

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probably because of framerate

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it does show up with higher framerate

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it could also be caused by the blend mode shenanigans you found tho

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but...maybe not

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since it doesnt explain the flicker aspect of it

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as for specs, the only factor, in theory, should be this:

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but I have seen it reported on setups without an Nvidia card

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so I dont think it's a factor

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I feel its universal but, again, not as noticeable as the other issue

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like, even in the video, you can see that the first R hold didnt cause the issue at all

quiet cave Apr 23, 2026, 6:37 PM

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i didnt notice it at all

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but i will test later on different refresh rates

charred rover Apr 23, 2026, 6:37 PM

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you do see it on the obs video, right?

quiet cave Apr 23, 2026, 6:37 PM

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charred rover it does show up with higher framerate

yeah i see it here

charred rover Apr 23, 2026, 6:37 PM

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alright

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but yea, I didnt notice it initially either

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mainly because sometimes it takes a few attempts to show up

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in that video I got lucky

quiet cave Apr 23, 2026, 6:38 PM

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no mods on your end, right?

charred rover Apr 23, 2026, 6:38 PM

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I started the video on the mods screen

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for that reason, heh

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they are disabled

quiet cave Apr 23, 2026, 6:38 PM

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alright

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either way not gonna go any further digging today so i probably will continue tomorrow

charred rover Apr 23, 2026, 6:39 PM

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it is def a rendering issue

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but it doesnt seem to me thats just the wrong params on blend mode for this one

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or at least not in the same way you detected for the other issue

quiet cave Apr 23, 2026, 6:39 PM

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yeah i also dont think its just some blendmode fuckery

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but god it will be annoying to track down

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because renderdoc frame captures are too slow for realtime

charred rover Apr 23, 2026, 6:40 PM

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yea...the other one is easier because it's perma happening

quiet cave Apr 23, 2026, 6:40 PM

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quiet cave because renderdoc frame captures are too slow for realtime

and this problem is a one-frame thing

charred rover Apr 23, 2026, 6:40 PM

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this one is a pain in the ass

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maybe it is blendmode....but normally the blendmode is not fucked in vanilla and theres some specific routine that fucks it like mods do

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or some shit like that

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