#Ramming...

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jagged flame
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I'm attempting to play with ramming.
Set the toolhead sensor to 'buffer', then :

"CALIBRATE_AFC BOWDEN=lane1"

And I get an error :

!! '-20.0' is not a valid length. Please check your setup and re-run calibration

Makes no sense to me ; I first calibrated the turtle with the (dual) sensor, afc_bowden_length was set to 1095.0, and extruder to hub distance was calibrated too (all lanes).

What am I doing wrong ?

past furnaceBOT
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patent gazelle
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Sounds like your buffer is open, or one of the switches is triggered before the move to me

jagged flame
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I'm not sure...
The Turtle Neck is in neutral position. Maybe I should invert and or pull the pins up [EDIT : no !]...
It's been a while since I tuned the turtle for the first time... 1 year ! Rebuilt itt as well as the V2.4
Also, I don't understand why the buffer pins are disabled at boot time.

[EDIT] both sensors turn green/checked when pushing/pulling the slider (one or the other of course !)

peak jackal
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But verify that the switches show compressed/expanded when pushing/pulling the neck to trigger the switches

jagged flame
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Found the issue : wiring.
When the hub sensor is activated, both buffer sensors are turning green.
(I made a combo hub + buffer, and made some wires salad...)

peak jackal
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Oh yeah that sounds wrong

jagged flame
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This is where something's wrong. 3 switches, sharing one GND. Most likely GND from the buffer connected to the active side of the hub switch (?). Now fixing the issue.

gaunt elbow
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you can share 1 GND but it has to be wired right as you have discivered

pure birch
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If both were triggering off one or the other, I'd say you got common and signal mixed up.

jagged flame
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I am stupid ! Of course, I can't do what I did !
Was simplifying wiring, as I use a EBB42 as bridge + GPIO : wanted to connect everything to the endstops terminal.
Maybe I could insert a few diodes... Assuming 0.65V will not hurt...

peak jackal
jagged flame
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Found. (was thinking of something else at first, hence diodes)
Mirrored connector. Wiring late at night + black wires for the look -> lost 2 hours, .
(I think it will now work...)

jagged flame
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New issues...
Of course, the auto calibrated lenghtes were wrong with the wire mess. And didn't think of it. As a result I got a jam in the hub.

And something else.
The sensors are now independant, and working as expected. But the turtle didn't stop pushing after the buffer was fully expanded ; took another 5 minutes before I understand expanded and compressed GPIOs were swapped.

But got a successfull ramming calibration. In your opinion, what tolerance, relative to toolhead sensor, is acceptable with my elastomeric springs loaded mini TN ? And repeatability ? Before I upload STEPs.

gaunt elbow
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what do you mean by tolerance?

peak jackal
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You also might want to update your hub_clear_move_dis to help prevent the clogs

jagged flame
jagged flame
# gaunt elbow what do you mean by tolerance?

I mean the difference between ramming measurements, and sensor measurements. Bacause the spring adds some force, and some bending in the system. The sensivity is not adjustable. Have to do more testing...

gaunt elbow
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Ah, well I think length calibration goes on 5mm increments

jagged flame
jagged flame
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I'm not sure but it seems to me that the filament is pushed by long moves increments, and fully retracted as soon as the buffer is triggered. No short moves for increased accuracy / resolution.
Is this the expected behaviour for sensorless toolheads / ramming ?

peak jackal
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you talking about when loading?

jagged flame
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When calibrating.
Spent about an hour reeading the docs and the cfg files, found nothing. Also had a look into the *.py files but didn't find the algo.

gaunt elbow
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it should be doing short moves the whole way