#Rapido 2 Plus UHF Tool stn etc

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undone vigil
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Hey Guys i had change my hotend to an rapido 2 plus uhf.

Had somebody as reference his cfg with an FilamAtrix with two d2f sensors with 5.5 mm Ball?
I mean the:

tool_stn
variable_retract_length
variable_pushback_length

Or are any cfg available for it?

sour breachBOT
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<@&1304550334839918672>

undone vigil
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Or can it be measured at the cad?

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To get the correct values

thorn rivet
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I use this upper part

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For UHF add 9mm

undone vigil
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yeah i had problems at the moment because the uhf get permanently stringing

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so i am thinking about now what it could be , the new cw2 or the rapido

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Had also an g2e here

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i dunno at the moment

thorn rivet
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I use a Ge2 and have no problems

undone vigil
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Yeah i was thinking about change from cw2 to g2e

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Have you also an rapido 2 plus uhf?

thorn rivet
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Yes, rapido 2 plus uhf ge2 twin sensor

undone vigil
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Yeah i print it at the moment

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Had to modify also my servo arm for the g2e

undone vigil
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Tiny stringing anyway

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Ive change the extruder

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Ive change the hatbreak

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Recheck the hotend

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The only thing that are not changed are the hotend fan

undone vigil
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could u also show me youre extruder section?

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i have tiny tiny hairing

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tested also with diffrent brands of pla

thorn rivet
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Ge2?

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Have you changed your ratio?

undone vigil
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sure

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Not mounted the first time

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Whats your retract length and speed?

thorn rivet
undone vigil
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ahhh 0.8

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Italiano?

thorn rivet
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Yes

undone vigil
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🙂 me too

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i think next print ill take out the max extrude

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i dunno why i have it in

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Are you using Filamatrix? @thorn rivet

thorn rivet
undone vigil
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Which hotend fan have you mounted?

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i mean the 4010 Blower

thorn rivet
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This

thorn rivet
undone vigil
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I mean hotend fan

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not part cooling

thorn rivet
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And 4010 to hotend

undone vigil
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i gave cpap too

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Yeah which 4010 have you mounted

thorn rivet
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Gs 4010 8500

undone vigil
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Okay

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Ive ordered two new

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One orion 8000 rpm and one Sunon 10000

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at the moment its an sunon 7000 maybe 7500 rpm from Amazon

thorn rivet
undone vigil
thorn rivet
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Sorry 8.5 partfan

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4010 gs 7500

undone vigil
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it looks like it was my Hotend fan

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Was cheaply bought from amazon

undone vigil
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nope

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I have changed:
Extruder

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Heatbreak

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Nozzle

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PTFE

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Fan

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Still stringing

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Tested diffrent retracts

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Diffrent temps

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I cant get the rapido 2 plus UHF to run

thorn rivet
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Can you show me a video of how it extrudes?! heat and extrude 100mm at 10mms

undone vigil
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Ive tested so much things now

undone vigil
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Testing all Retraction Speeds , it looks like , with the g2e it wont take any effects

undone vigil
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So ive taken off the turtle from the printer

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An see the stringing are gone

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so what could cause on the turtle that issue <@&1304550334839918672>

thorn rivet
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Check this

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Retrack e pushback

undone vigil
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that your values?

thorn rivet
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they must be changed according to the length of the nozzle

thorn rivet
undone vigil
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We both had the same cfg

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Extruder and hotend

thorn rivet
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Default is 20 or 25

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I don't remember

undone vigil
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Yeah but your values are also for the g2e with rapido 2 plus uhf

thorn rivet
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Yes

thorn rivet
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what measurements did you put on stn?

undone vigil
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Coulkd you send me an 3mf sliced model with your cfg?

thorn rivet
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Ok

undone vigil
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I mean a project sliced with your cfg

thorn rivet
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Yes, ok

undone vigil
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I will, shopw you my stn etc

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to compare

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But at the moment i am without printing with any turtle

thorn rivet
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Do you want it in single color or with color change?

undone vigil
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Single

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Do you have print the Filametrix or the Filamtrix?

thorn rivet
thorn rivet
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With part under UHF

undone vigil
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youre printing with 190 ?

thorn rivet
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Asa 245

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Pla 215

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Abs 245

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But

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minimum at 200-250mms 20k

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300-350mms asa 260°

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anyway, uhf drips a lot, it has a lot of material melted internally. if you don't have a printer that exceeds 300mms 20k mount HF

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500mms 30k I didn't reach the maximum flow of the UHF, 45mm³. I reached the maximum at 32mm³

undone vigil
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okay my printing speed tested are 150 mms

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XD

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That it could be i am barely to slow

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So the hf could be really enough

thorn rivet
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Mount HF, you have much less problems.

undone vigil
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okay will test it

undone vigil
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So after few days of testing

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I was take off the fan of my cpap yesterday

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Without cpap the stringing are gone

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i need to go way to hot with pla that the stringing goes away

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Like 270-280

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with cpap

thorn rivet
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Uhmmm sorry, but you're not going to send the CPAP to 100%?

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Pla 180-250mms 200% cpap 40-50%
Asa-abs 250-300mms 260° 5-7%

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you have to calibrate each filament based on speed time and cpap. It is not that simple to calibrate

undone vigil
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i had

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if ill take on the cpap with 10%

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I need to go up with pla over 250 degrees

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With the hf variation now

thorn rivet
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I don't now

undone vigil
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Me to

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I had now an normal 5015 part fan in it

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Every pla strings from fresh or dryed

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i cant print PLA with the rapido

red goblet
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rapido2 sometimes has thermistor issues where it will report up to 50C under what it avruallly is

undone vigil
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I dunno whats wron with that piece of S.......... But iam now Mounting my old one again iam finish with the secon rapido

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Ive rote Phateus on Voron no response yet

thorn rivet
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You did the PID with the CPAP at 15-20%?

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The strange thing is that you say that without Turtle it doesn't do it, as if the turtle didn't do retraction. Have you tried putting retraction on layer change?

undone vigil
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It was not the turtle

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Yeah all the stuff

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Its not my first rapido

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I have one in my enderwire also

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i had 6 printers

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never had such issue before

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I had now an Dragon clone in it the K1 Lizard v6 with that hotend it works normally

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Only Hotend are changed now

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So for me it is the Rapido

raw zealot
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Currently I'm running a Rapido 2 UHF on a cw2 and I'm wondering what everyone is running for there settings and getting reliable results?

tool_stn: 58
tool_stn_unload: 80
variable_retract_length : 30
variable_pushback_length : 20

i find if i try to retract any more, i will start getting filament jams...
im trying to change how much purge i need to do on my prime tower and currently i have it set to 550 and i still get color bleed sometimes..

any help is apricated..

Thanks!

wanton monolith
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I am at 15 and 13 for retract/pushback, sorry don't run the same toolhead to help with the others.

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why don't you let your slicer vary the purge volume?

raw zealot
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what multiplier are you running in orca?

wanton monolith
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1.0 but I have it set to like 30% +55 for length on the actual gcode output

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I found printed the purge volume test between red, black, white, and another color to try to cover the bases

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but I also run HF not UHF