attempting to get my first print going but having issues | ArmoredTurtle 3D | Page 1

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:06 PM

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issue 1: seems to be my spool motors dont spin my spools fast enough when they rewind and the filament gos crazy if i dont help it

issue 2: when i call the afc_poop macro my extruder cant pull the any filament in because the box turtle isnt giving any up.

bitter violetBOT May 3, 2025, 3:06 PM

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slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:08 PM

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You can adjust the speed of the respooler motors by changing this setting

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:08 PM

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the motors are studdering when they are going in reverse

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:10 PM

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They are supposed to stutter that's the pwm working

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Mine were going too fast so I slowed them down like this

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I think 0.5 was the defaults

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If yours are going to slow you would probably need to raise the numbers higher

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I'm speculating however

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:12 PM

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i put them back to .5

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i just saw that as the solution

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:29 PM

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well its at .75 and still doesnt help

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ima try to make a video

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 3:30 PM

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you can go over 1 with that value, some have it set to 1.5 or 2

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:30 PM

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oh

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okay

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is fwd and rwd value the same?

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:32 PM

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No they're separate

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 3:32 PM

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no they should be different, if you set fwd too high it can run faster than your extruder and unspool more

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:32 PM

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For me it is at least glad Jimmy John is here he's the guy to ask

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 3:32 PM

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slim oasis For me it is at least glad Jimmy John is here he's the guy to ask

you got it as well 😉

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:33 PM

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I'm still on the old software though LOL

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 3:34 PM

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Also to set higher than 1 you need to manually update your config, I got to fix the macro to allow greater than 1

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:34 PM

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kk

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im at 1

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😄

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:34 PM

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I get confused on which one to adjust because my motors ran backwards so I edited things to reverse them

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I should just change my connectors

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:35 PM

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yeah idk what im doing wrong

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the spool doesnt even spin

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the filament moves around the spool

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:35 PM

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Can you roll The idler rollers freely with your fingers

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:35 PM

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yes

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:36 PM

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And the tires they spin freely the edges aren't rubbing anything?

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:36 PM

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correct not rubbing anything

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:36 PM

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Just making sure

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They do have a debug utility that can help with troubleshooting

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 3:37 PM

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slim oasis I get confused on which one to adjust because my motors ran backwards so I edite...

reversing your pin assignment does not change which direction is fwd/rwd from the software point of view. If that makes sense

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:37 PM

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idk the command

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:37 PM

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radiant reef reversing your pin assignment does not change which direction is fwd/rwd from th...

Yeah I think I agree with what you just said also

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But I have never been totally sure

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 3:37 PM

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TEST LANE=lane1 spins the spoolers

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:37 PM

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It works with how I have things set so I've assumed I'm correct

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:38 PM

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which way should it spin

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in the direction to feed to the printer

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or respool

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:38 PM

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radiant reef `TEST LANE=lane1` spins the spoolers

Just taught me something new LOL

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 3:38 PM

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it spins like trying to rewind the spool

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:39 PM

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oh

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kay 1 is wrong

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okay they alll correct but 1

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how do i reverse the direct of the spool motor

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:41 PM

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Switch the FWD with rwd for that motor

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:42 PM

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i did that

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:42 PM

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And it didn't fix it

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:42 PM

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no

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slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:42 PM

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I'm never tried this test command before so I'm not sure

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Theoretically that should have worked that's how mine are

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:42 PM

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i changed the wrog one

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lol

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:42 PM

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Ah go figure

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Been there done that

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:43 PM

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okay

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there all spinning the right wayt now

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:43 PM

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Yay

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Perhaps it's time to run the calibration utility again?

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Not sure

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Or just try to load

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You know you like yolo

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:44 PM

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its like the spools are 2 heavy for the wheels to spin in the direction to respool

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:44 PM

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Try changing the position

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:44 PM

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we didnt change anything from the last time i did

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:44 PM

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Move your idler forward a slot

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Which position do you have it set at in your tray

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:44 PM

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ive tried them all

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:45 PM

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It they're not slipping they just don't have enough power to turn?

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:45 PM

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correct

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not slipping just dont turn

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:45 PM

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Damn I'm not sure what to say are you using the motors you had from smuf

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:45 PM

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wheel ditters

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:45 PM

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The wheel supposed to jitter

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:45 PM

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idk

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the wheel jitters like its not getting enough power

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:46 PM

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I'm just wondering what voltage and what RPM your motors are

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:47 PM

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1 and no clue at rpm

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50-100 slower then defualt

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:47 PM

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Can you take a video

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Of them working perhaps so you can see what you mean by the jittering

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I can try to see if I can make mine run that command and do a video of mine

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I'm thinking mine are 500 RPM 12 volt

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I mean I can post the link to where I got them from Amazon if you'd like

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I don't have enough experience to know otherwise so perhaps Jimmy John might

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:52 PM

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yeah he sai di had to up it more

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i cant tho because the macro has to change

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and idk what to change i was waiting for him to respond

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:53 PM

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It looks normal to me

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Maybe I'm high

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I'm trying to make a video of mine but I can't record on this phone and operate the printer at the same time

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So I'm trying to charge a device quickly

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:54 PM

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its not rewinding plump

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watch the filament

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:54 PM

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Not saying it isn't rewinding

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But I see this tires spinning

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:55 PM

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yeah it spins forward

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 3:56 PM

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well its trying to rewind, just more of an FYI we have been working on updating the logic to help with getting the spools moving better. This may help your situation as well.

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:57 PM

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gotcha

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i thought it was the motor not having enough power to spin

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 3:57 PM

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do longer lane moves greater than -200 spin them better?

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:57 PM

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they all do the same thing

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the weird thing is me and plump have pretty much all the same parts

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:58 PM

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There's no chance that you're 30t gear is slipping on the shaft

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I'm just I'm at a loss I don't know otherwise

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:58 PM

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it spinds forward fine

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 3:58 PM

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Yeah I noticed that too

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But it also has the extruder helping it

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 3:59 PM

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@radiant reef what do i have to change to go above 1?

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 4:00 PM

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these values in your config files

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each lane has a set

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:00 PM

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yeah i pushed them all to 1

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 4:01 PM

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What happens if you set them to 1.1

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:01 PM

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i want to go to 1.5

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lol

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 4:01 PM

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Or 1.5

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Does it throw an error

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:01 PM

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he said i can go to 2

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i guess you missed that

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 4:02 PM

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No I thought he said you had to change something else

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That's the part I missed

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 4:02 PM

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you can change them greater than 1, just gotta do it manually in the config

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I think the calculation kinda maxes out at 5 for reverse

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 4:03 PM

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Oh I understand

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I thought there was an extra step

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:03 PM

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oh

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i thought i had to do =soemthing else

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 4:03 PM

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Me too LOL

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:04 PM

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oh wtf

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 4:04 PM

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That don't sound good LOL

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:05 PM

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it worked then it stopped

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 4:05 PM

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Here is the math I did for those fields the other day #boxturtle message

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:06 PM

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soo max is 2.1?

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1.5 helped alot

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it didnt work after the first time tho

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oh yeah

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2 was the key

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i can go both ways now

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is there a rewind speed?

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:26 PM

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how am i supposed to unload the filament when it doesnt reverse the extruder motor

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so the box turtle can pull it out?

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 4:29 PM

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use BT_LANE_EJECT to remove it

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:30 PM

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i thought i tried that macro

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its not spinningthe extruder also

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its not even trying to cut

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 4:41 PM

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oh if the lane is loaded to the toolhead you need to use BT_TOOL_UNLOAD

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 4:45 PM

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oh

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ty

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also is there a walkthough for how to setup orca?

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found it

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😄

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 5:18 PM

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@radiant reef something is wrong

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when i use lane eject it does not spin my extruder also

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it also doesnt stop

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soo this filament has a bump in it now

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and i cant get it to let go of the filament

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the onyl way to stop this is to estop

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 5:44 PM

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either way i got it working lol

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hopefully ill have blobifier stuff in while

slim oasis May 3, 2025, 5:48 PM

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party party party

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You're getting so close

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 7:39 PM

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was getting it

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https://termbin.com/n92r

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 8:19 PM

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what are we looking at here?

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 11:41 PM

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i keep clogging

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idk why

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its like the extruder on the printer and the extruder on the box turtle are fighting one another

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 11:43 PM

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check your turtle neck to make sure its detected correctly

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 11:44 PM

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it does

radiant reef May 3, 2025, 11:44 PM

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hmmm,

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 11:44 PM

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plump said maybe i have to calibrate the roational distance on the extruder in the box turtle?

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it out all the way

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is this backwards?

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i would assume expanded would be triggered

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i thought this was correct before

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sucked back in

gleaming sinew May 3, 2025, 11:50 PM

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radiant reef check your turtle neck to make sure its detected correctly

i think i might be wrong about what i said lol

drowsy inlet May 4, 2025, 12:01 AM

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Yeah those are backwards

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 12:01 AM

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ty ill fix that and try agian

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 12:04 AM

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Its written up here as well on how you should see it https://www.armoredturtle.xyz/docs/boxturtle/initial_startup/05-additional-tests.html#turtleneck-buffer

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 12:04 AM

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ty

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is it acceptable to switrch the pin in config or should i just switch the plug

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 12:12 AM

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switching it in the config is easier, dont see a problem with that as long as you remember why it was done

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 12:12 AM

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gotcha

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i think ima just switch the plug

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so im like everyone else

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less confusion later on if i need to get help

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 12:13 AM

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fair

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 12:13 AM

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also does the print 4 the serial have to be 4 colors?

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 12:17 AM

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yes

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 12:17 AM

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kk

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:15 AM

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what is this for ?

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the syntex was wrong

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radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:35 AM

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gleaming sinew what is this for ?

It runs prep to initialize AFC, also what syntax is wrong?

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:36 AM

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it needed a space

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infront of enable

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atleast it was for me and plump when we compared

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:37 AM

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There should not be a space there

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Before enable

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:37 AM

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but then the false doesnt show correct syntex

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like it does everywere else in my config

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its blue not red

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when i added the space it turned it red

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:38 AM

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So

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Klipper should error if there is a space in front of the enable

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Normally does not like the space

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Coloring syntax really should not make a difference, but 🤷‍♂️

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:40 AM

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radiant reef Klipper should error if there is a space in front of the enable

it doesnt

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but i also put false and it still preped my lane

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with and without the space

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:42 AM

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The only thing that does is stop the extruder and wheel movement

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During prep

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:42 AM

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which wheel?

slim oasis May 4, 2025, 3:43 AM

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Jimmy, the error I was complaining about in the past is happening to him

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When we thought it was cause I was hitting emergency stop

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:44 AM

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everytime i have to restart klipper why does this happen

slim oasis May 4, 2025, 3:44 AM

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It then ejects the filament slowly and locks up klipper and the pi

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:44 AM

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my tube is 2meters long this takes years to do

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:44 AM

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What are the states of your sensors before you restart klipper?

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:44 AM

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i just stopped a print

slim oasis May 4, 2025, 3:45 AM

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Sorry oc video chat with noodle and can't voice to text

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:45 AM

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it was loaded

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i saved my beacon z offset

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and wanted to restart the print...

slim oasis May 4, 2025, 3:46 AM

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I'm always afraid to restart klipper by hitting save_config

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I'm on old software noodle is on new software

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:47 AM

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Send code...
11:43 PM
E  _ _   _ _
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  Turtle_1
11:43 PM
lane4 tool cmd: T3  LOCKED AND LOADED
11:43 PM
lane3 tool cmd: T2  LOCKED AND LOADED error in ToolHead. 
Lane identified as loaded 
 but not identified as loaded in extruder
11:43 PM
lane2 tool cmd: T1  LOCKED AND LOADED
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lane1 tool cmd: T0  LOCKED AND LOADED
11:43 PM
'Box Turtle' Turtle_1 Prepping lanes
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AFC Version: v1.0.11-1404-83fb073
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Klipper state: Disconnect
11:43 PM
SAVE_CONFIG
11:40 PM
Beacon model offset has been updated, new value is 0.01000
You must run the SAVE_CONFIG command now to update the
printer config file and restart the printer.```

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:22 PM

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is there any way to stop this from happening? i can replicate this issue everytime now

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it happens to every lane

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:37 PM

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Can you stop klipper and then run the debug script

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https://www.armoredturtle.xyz/docs/troubleshooting/troubleshooting.html#afc-debug-script

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:44 PM

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yup

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jimmyjon ty for helping me btw

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:47 PM

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Still don't understand how you guys keep finding this problem 😑

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:47 PM

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your tellin me

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this is my life

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i always find the issues lol

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im also super confused as to why my prints keep coming off my bed but that isnt a turtle issue -.-

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https://termbin.com/slwl

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wondering if its related to me having to update?

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:51 PM

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rule of thumb don't update klipper stuff unless you really need something from that update 🙂

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:52 PM

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oh ive learned that the hardway

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lol

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i more or less just use it as a way to know i need to update

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:52 PM

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So you are saying right now that a lane is loaded into your toolhead?

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:52 PM

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i do not

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i was getting ready to

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if i was to load it

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thne restart the printer

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:53 PM

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lane2

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:53 PM

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ill get the error

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i was going to load lane 2 yes

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i can load it then restart

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so you can see

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:54 PM

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ah ok I see, so in your AFC/AFC.var.unit file change lane2 tool_loaded: True to tool_loaded: False

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:55 PM

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saved

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:55 PM

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did you by chance start loading lane 2 and then restart your printer or something, lane 2 is in a weird state. But something that I have been meaning to update so hopefully these weird states dont occur

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:55 PM

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and look at that

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i get the error now

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gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:56 PM

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radiant reef did you by chance start loading lane 2 and then restart your printer or somethin...

i did at somepoint yesterday

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:56 PM

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upload your klippy.log

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:56 PM

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📎 klippy_8.log

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:56 PM

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gleaming sinew i did at somepoint yesterday

Yeah restarting your printer while it loads can cause the states to become weird

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:57 PM

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i mean you told me id get this error yesterday

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ok

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still doing it

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i just updated it

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:58 PM

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oh it should be lower case false tool_loaded: false

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:58 PM

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kk

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that fixed it

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soo when i load it now

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and then save/restart

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that shouldnt happen?

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 1:59 PM

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hopefully it does not error out....

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 1:59 PM

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klipper is live

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no error

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:00 PM

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but after your load it capture your AFC.vars.unit file before restart

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:00 PM

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kk

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📎 before.txt

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t1 loading

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:02 PM

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capture after the load is successful

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:02 PM

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kk

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atleast my cutter and load routine works 😄

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pooper doesnt work yet either -.-

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i need to fix the distance

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for purging

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its started the load

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📎 after.txt

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:07 PM

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so is a lane supposed to be loaded?

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:07 PM

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2

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_e17e9518-834b-4017-9a15-16b5ff83ac73.jpg

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:07 PM

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hmm, the file does not show it as loaded

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this should be populated as well and its not

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:08 PM

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oh interesting

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is there a chance my klipper is messed up?

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:10 PM

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I would not think so, if you look now is it updated?

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:10 PM

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nope still now

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:15 PM

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hmmmm, its like its not saving for some reason

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:15 PM

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should i update maybe?

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also maybe i installed the box turtle stuffs wrong when i did it the first time?

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:18 PM

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lets try this, unload your box turtle completely and then delete the AFC.var.unit file and then restart. Then load a lane and see if that file gets updated,

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Then if it does load to your toolhead and see if it gets updated

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:18 PM

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kk

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kk unloaded

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now take all the filament out of the box turtle

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:21 PM

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well just remove the filament from the lane so nothing is triggered

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:24 PM

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okay

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its unloaded

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do you want a copy before i delete it

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📎 pre-delete.txt

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📎 post-delete.txt

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:26 PM

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interesting your post delete updated

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also how are you loading to your toolhead?

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:27 PM

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these buttons

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:27 PM

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ok

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so what happens if you try loading now?

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:28 PM

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ill reload 2 now

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its in the turtles extruder

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homing then going to load it to toolhead

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after

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radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:34 PM

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oh that error may be causing it to not save

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:34 PM

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its my kick being wrong

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i fixed it

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i just have to save restart 😄

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:35 PM

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yeah but that error is probably causing it to not save, there should be more printouts from AFC

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:35 PM

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but i know i have top update

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i also have ALL the debug stuff turned on

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figured that would help

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:36 PM

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unload your toolhead before restarting and make sure your kick works, you can manually call AFC_KICK to make sure it does not error out

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:36 PM

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it knows lane 2 was loaded

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radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:38 PM

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but this shows that we should probably save the file and update variables before calling these macros, something to update in the software

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:39 PM

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okay filament is unloaded

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from toolhead

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save restart

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to test the kick?

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:41 PM

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yup

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:43 PM

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kay it works 😛

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radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:55 PM

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so file looks good as well?

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:55 PM

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    "Turtle_1": {
        "lane1": {
            "name": "lane1",
            "unit": "Turtle_1",
            "hub": "Turtle_1",
            "extruder": "extruder",
            "buffer": "Turtle_1",
            "buffer_status": "Advancing",
            "lane": 1,
            "map": "T0",
            "load": false,
            "prep": false,
            "tool_loaded": false,
            "loaded_to_hub": false,
            "material": null,
            "spool_id": null,
            "color": null,
            "weight": null,
            "extruder_temp": null,
            "runout_lane": "NONE",
            "filament_status": "Not Ready",
            "filament_status_led": "#ff0000",
            "status": null
        },
        "lane2": {
            "name": "lane2",
            "unit": "Turtle_1",
            "hub": "Turtle_1",
            "extruder": "extruder",
            "buffer": "Turtle_1",
            "buffer_status": "Advancing",
            "lane": 2,
            "map": "T1",
            "load": true,
            "prep": true,
            "tool_loaded": false,
            "loaded_to_hub": true,
            "material": null,
            "spool_id": null,
            "color": null,
            "weight": null,
            "extruder_temp": null,
            "runout_lane": "NONE",
            "filament_status": "Ready",
            "filament_status_led": "#00cc00",
            "status": "Loaded"
        },
        "lane3": {
            "name": "lane3",
            "unit": "Turtle_1",
            "hub": "Turtle_1",
            "extruder": "extruder",
            "buffer": "Turtle_1",
            "buffer_status": "Advancing",
            "lane": 3,
            "map": "T2",
            "load": false,
            "prep": false,
            "tool_loaded": false,
            "loaded_to_hub": false,
            "material": null,
            "spool_id": null,
            "color": null,
            "weight": null,
            "extruder_temp": null,
            "runout_lane": "NONE",
            "filament_status": "Not Ready",
            "filament_status_led": "#ff0000",
            "status": null
        },
        "lane4": {
            "name": "lane4",
            "unit": "Turtle_1",
            "hub": "Turtle_1",
            "extruder": "extruder",
            "buffer": "Turtle_1",
            "buffer_status": "Advancing",
            "lane": 4,
            "map": "T3",
            "load": false,
            "prep": false,
            "tool_loaded": false,
            "loaded_to_hub": false,
            "material": null,
            "spool_id": null,
            "color": null,
            "weight": null,
            "extruder_temp": null,
            "runout_lane": "NONE",
            "filament_status": "Not Ready",
            "filament_status_led": "#ff0000",
            "status": null
        }
    },
    "system": {
        "current_load": null,
        "num_units": 1,
        "num_lanes": 4,
        "num_extruders": 1,
        "extruders": {
            "extruder": {
                "lane_loaded": null
            }
        },
        "bypass": {
            "enabled": false
        }
    }
}```

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its only in the turtle

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not in printer atm

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and onyl lane 2

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 2:56 PM

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ah I see you were testing your kick

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 2:56 PM

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yes

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i also changed this from 5 to 45

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thinking ill actually have a correct purge

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because my toolhead sensor (im not sure which one its asking for) i have 2

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is more then 5mm lol

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:00 PM

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yeah, 5 is way toooo low

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:02 PM

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its 108 lol

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i cant wait to see this next poop attempt lol

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always something

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:10 PM

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guess you missed this at the bottom 😬 https://www.armoredturtle.xyz/docs/boxturtle/initial_startup/03-install-plugin.html

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:11 PM

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😄

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soooooooo

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there needs to eb a way to stop

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when

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your filament is gripped in the extruder

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i cant stop this

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and it sjust fucking my filament

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in 1 spot

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now ill have to cut 2m of filament

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i just have to wait for it to figure out its not moving

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its locked in the extruder

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radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:14 PM

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estop....

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really is the only way

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:14 PM

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and then the file is messed up no

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:14 PM

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AFC cannot even stop what klipper is doing once the command is issued

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:15 PM

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and now ima have a sad turtle 😄

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okay maybe not

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:20 PM

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well because you successfully loaded to toolhead and the file updated

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:21 PM

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green led tho

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its at the toolhead

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it should be blue

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:21 PM

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oh yeah it should say and loaded to toolhead.... 😞

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so file did not get updated for loaded to toolhead because of the long extruder error

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:22 PM

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kk

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:22 PM

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do SET_LANE_LOADED LANE=lane2 to force it to be loaded

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:23 PM

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that will be fixed in a second

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thats amazing

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ty for teaching me that command

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:25 PM

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they are all documented here for reference https://www.armoredturtle.xyz/docs/afc-klipper-add-on/klipper/commands.html

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 3:27 PM

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ty

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    "Turtle_1": {
        "lane1": {
            "name": "lane1",
            "unit": "Turtle_1",
            "hub": "Turtle_1",
            "extruder": "extruder",
            "buffer": "Turtle_1",
            "buffer_status": "Advancing",
            "lane": 1,
            "map": "T0",
            "load": false,
            "prep": false,
            "tool_loaded": false,
            "loaded_to_hub": false,
            "material": null,
            "spool_id": null,
            "color": null,
            "weight": null,
            "extruder_temp": null,
            "runout_lane": "NONE",
            "filament_status": "Not Ready",
            "filament_status_led": "#ff0000",
            "status": null
        },
        "lane2": {
            "name": "lane2",
            "unit": "Turtle_1",
            "hub": "Turtle_1",
            "extruder": "extruder",
            "buffer": "Turtle_1",
            "buffer_status": "Advancing",
            "lane": 2,
            "map": "T1",
            "load": true,
            "prep": true,
            "tool_loaded": true,
            "loaded_to_hub": true,
            "material": null,
            "spool_id": null,
            "color": null,
            "weight": null,
            "extruder_temp": null,
            "runout_lane": "NONE",
            "filament_status": "In Tool",
            "filament_status_led": "#0000ff",
            "status": "Tooled"
        },
        "lane3": {
            "name": "lane3",
            "unit": "Turtle_1",
            "hub": "Turtle_1",
            "extruder": "extruder",
            "buffer": "Turtle_1",
            "buffer_status": "Advancing",
            "lane": 3,
            "map": "T2",
            "load": false,
            "prep": false,
            "tool_loaded": false,
            "loaded_to_hub": false,
            "material": null,
            "spool_id": null,
            "color": null,
            "weight": null,
            "extruder_temp": null,
            "runout_lane": "NONE",
            "filament_status": "Not Ready",
            "filament_status_led": "#ff0000",
            "status": null
        },
        "lane4": {
            "name": "lane4",
            "unit": "Turtle_1",
            "hub": "Turtle_1",
            "extruder": "extruder",
            "buffer": "Turtle_1",
            "buffer_status": "Advancing",
            "lane": 4,
            "map": "T3",
            "load": false,
            "prep": false,
            "tool_loaded": false,
            "loaded_to_hub": false,
            "material": null,
            "spool_id": null,
            "color": null,
            "weight": null,
            "extruder_temp": null,
            "runout_lane": "NONE",
            "filament_status": "Not Ready",
            "filament_status_led": "#ff0000",
            "status": null
        }
    },
    "system": {
        "current_load": "lane2",
        "num_units": 1,
        "num_lanes": 4,
        "num_extruders": 1,
        "extruders": {
            "extruder": {
                "lane_loaded": "lane2"
            }
        },
        "bypass": {
            "enabled": false
        }
    }
}```

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ty jimmyjon

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😄

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how do i stop it from lowering into the poop after it did it

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 3:59 PM

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wait you don't like to smush your poop first....

gleaming sinew May 4, 2025, 6:09 PM

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lolol

radiant reef May 4, 2025, 6:20 PM

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The kick/brush macros in DEV have been updated to not smash your poop, just have not been moved over to main yet

slim oasis May 5, 2025, 12:02 AM

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radiant reef The kick/brush macros in DEV have been updated to not smash your poop, just have...

The way I got around that initially was I just used a starting location about 5 mm further to the right for the kick start location.

gleaming sinew May 7, 2025, 12:18 AM

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📎 message.txt

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not sure what i did wrong

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nvm figured it out

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lowercase f

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 1:23 AM

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not sure why its a sad turtle

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i just reloaded it then restarted

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getting logs for you now

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https://termbin.com/1uoq

radiant reef May 9, 2025, 1:54 AM

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Because filament was not triggering the load sensor

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 2:00 AM

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which sensor is that

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the led is green not red

radiant reef May 9, 2025, 2:03 AM

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oh nice 😐 its the sensor in the extruder

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 2:33 AM

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oh thats intersting

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should i delete the adc.var.unit again?

radiant reef May 9, 2025, 2:55 AM

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no I dont think that will solve it...

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you should be able to just remove the filament and then stick it back in

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 3:00 AM

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i tried that

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the other thing is there is nothing loaded to the tool head

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i just realized it says that

radiant reef May 9, 2025, 3:02 AM

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did something error out... because your afc.vars.unit file shows lane 2 should be loaded. You can fix that with UNSET_LANE_LOADED macro command

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 3:09 AM

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idk what i did

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lol

radiant reef May 9, 2025, 3:11 AM

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the mysterious breaker and fixer of software 🤣

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 3:13 AM

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im great at breaking stuff

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i have everything done

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i just need to get my purge amounts or feed amounts correct

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when i feed in from the box turtle

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before it does the purge routine

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it pushs material out of the nozzle

radiant reef May 9, 2025, 3:14 AM

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lower your tool_stn value then

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 3:14 AM

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nice i was right 😄

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i was about to test it then the box turtle messed up on me

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i just fixed my blobifer 😄

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bigger servo now

radiant reef May 9, 2025, 3:15 AM

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you can lower it without restart

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 3:15 AM

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😄

radiant reef May 9, 2025, 3:16 AM

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https://www.armoredturtle.xyz/docs/afc-klipper-add-on/klipper/internal/lane.html#AFC_extruder.AFCExtruder.UPDATE_TOOLHEAD_SENSORS

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just make sure you use the SAVE_EXTRUDER_VALUES once you fine a good number

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 3:17 AM

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gotcha

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i need to measure everything

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instease of guess lol

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im close tho

radiant reef May 9, 2025, 3:19 AM

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meh, get close with guessing and then tune a bit. Kinda what I do lol

gleaming sinew May 9, 2025, 3:19 AM

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i know i just needed to purge more

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lol

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soo i moved from 100 to 110

stoic pelican May 9, 2025, 4:58 AM

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fyi, i had a similar issue to yours where the spool wasnt rewinding, i went back and tightend the wheel grub screws and problem solved

gleaming sinew May 11, 2025, 10:43 PM

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is there any walkthroughs on how to setup the kick or purge stuffs to go with it

slim oasis May 14, 2025, 2:31 PM

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gleaming sinew is there any walkthroughs on how to setup the kick or purge stuffs to go with it

Damn you make me excited to get back home again I catch the plane tomorrow evening and then I'll be able to help LOL

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I really want to install the new software and get on board

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I've been going through printer withdrawal this week

#attempting to get my first print going but having issues