#[SOLVED] not sure what im missing but slots 2 and 3 wont trigger

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lyric tiger
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graceful cape
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So when trying to load a spool your prep triggers are not activating your extruder motors?

lyric tiger
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correct only slot 1 and 4 are triggering

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i know the motors are activation on start up

graceful cape
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When you insert do you see the switches activate in your gui and do you get an error message printing out on the console?

lyric tiger
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okay so i swaped the switches on the board and they work so its not a hard ware issue other than it could be the main board

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but yes im getting a trigger error

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cannot load lane 2 load sensor triggered

graceful cape
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Ah, check to make sure you don't have anything in the sensor that's in your extruder. Something is triggering your load sensor

lyric tiger
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just got rid of the ^ on load in cfg for slot 2 got the motor to trigger gunna try slot 3 now

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okay that worked another thing im wondering how do tell klipper to load a filliment

graceful cape
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was it not ^! infront of the pins?

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also this a kit or self sourced?

lyric tiger
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this is the kit from west 3d

graceful cape
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try adding ^! infront for both prep and load sensors

lyric tiger
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that worked

graceful cape
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hmm ok, now does it still detect filament when the sensor is triggered?

graceful cape
lyric tiger
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its syed failed to load

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but i can feel it being gabed by the motor

graceful cape
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yeah I think the sensor is not triggering correctly with the !

lyric tiger
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how do i get it to back out the filliment

graceful cape
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but you need to keep the pull up ^ in

lyric tiger
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if i keep the ^ it wont trigger

graceful cape
lyric tiger
graceful cape
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when you swapped the connectors, which lane did you swap it to?

lyric tiger
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i swapeed the prep senors on 1 and 2 not the load

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i think load is having problems

graceful cape
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what happens if you swap the load?

lyric tiger
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im trying that now

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load has been swapped same issue prep senors wont trigger

graceful cape
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yeah something is triggering the switch, do you have a meter? Probably a good idea to manually ohm out the sensor and make sure its changing when filament is inserted

lyric tiger
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bot sure if this will make a diffeence but do i need the jump on the board

lyric tiger
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theres a 120 OHM jumper spot on the board next to the cam port

graceful cape
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no looks like you are using USB, so thats not needed

lyric tiger
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ok

graceful cape
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I think manually checking the switch to verify its good would be the next step

lyric tiger
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did that its fine \

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the load and prep switch work fine on slots 1 and 4 just not 2 and 3

graceful cape
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so you can try remove the ^ again, but instead of loading it just remove the PTFE on the rear of the extruder and stick filament in and see if its detected in your gui

lyric tiger
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this happens when i get rid of the ^

graceful cape
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yeah still not detecting it

lyric tiger
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load is set to turtle_1:EXT2

graceful cape
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thats right

lyric tiger
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failed to load at trigger which triggere

graceful cape
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ok a couple of things what happens if you move lane2 load to this free spot where prep text is at

lyric tiger
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move it there or check that its not there

graceful cape
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and then for load in lane2 section put this
load: ^Turtle_1:SW6

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restart and see what your sensor report in gui

lyric tiger
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ok

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load or prep

graceful cape
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load since thats where the problem is at

lyric tiger
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ok

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nope did not work

graceful cape
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ok when you swapped the switches earlier what exactly did you do

lyric tiger
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i took load 2 and put it in prep 5

graceful cape
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when you did the swap here #1363702573143425126 message which sensors(prep/load) did you swap?

lyric tiger
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i swaped prep and and 2 to see if it was the switch that was broken

graceful cape
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ok, so instead of messing with the prep sensors can you ohm out the load sensor to verify its actually working outside of connecting it to the board

lyric tiger
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okay 1 sec

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when i swap load 1 and 2 slot 2 works but slot 1 does not

graceful cape
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yeah sounds like a switch problem to me. Also don't forget to put back the proper pin for lane2 load: ^Turtle_1:EXT2

lyric tiger
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oh i dident do that

graceful cape
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what happens when you remove the switch fully from your lane 2 extruder

lyric tiger
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i put load 1 back and left load 2 out

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nothing happens when i leave load 2 out

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weired thing is when i swaped load 1 and 2 slot 2 motors kicked in and thats without changeing the klipper settings

graceful cape
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yeah that makes sense, since lane 1 switch is working properly. It would still fail to load though

lyric tiger
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wouldent switching the load make trigger a differnt slots motor

graceful cape
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no

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ok if you fully remove lane 2 sensor from the extruder and look at your filament switch sensors, does it show detected when you manually trigger the switch? make sure you connect it back to the proper lane 2 connector

lyric tiger
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when i have load as ^! and get the failed to load check filliment trigger it loads enough filliment to go past the 4 way hub

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how ever prep is detected but not load

graceful cape
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yeah dont add ! back

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please remove the sensor fully and manually see if it shows detected in your gui

lyric tiger
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no filliment is in the ams

graceful cape
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what happens if you remove the switch fully from your lane 2 extruder, like remove it from the plastic part

lyric tiger
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took the switch out its crap wiring

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got to re soder it

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as far as i can tell for slot 2 havent looked at slot 3 year

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so it was hardware

graceful cape
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ok good in a way

lyric tiger
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thanks for going thrugh this with me it was bad soder joints on them switches

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is there a macro for loading filliment into tool head

shy rock
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Just using the T# commands depending on which lane you want loaded. Note that tool commands start at 0 not 1

graceful cape
lyric tiger
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Filament loaded in bypass, not doing tool load

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got this error when i did T0 command

graceful cape
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Uncheck virtual bypass, I saw it was checked last night

lyric tiger
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okay also have another problem

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lane 3 this time

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so i can get the load switch to activate

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but now prep 3 wont trigger it stays empty

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i flip the switch and the motors start moving and gabs the filliment but it keeps pushing it past the buff

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i mean past the main 4 way hub

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i just resodered the load switch does wire orientation matter

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i see it triggering

graceful cape
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So sounds like your prep switch is working, if it was not the motors would not activate. Sounds more like your load sensor not detecting anything

graceful cape
lyric tiger
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they are

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when i load filliment prep switch triggers the motor but stays empty how ever when i do this load switchs to detected

graceful cape
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Is the prep sensor loose underneath which could cause it to push back and not trigger

lyric tiger
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Move out of range: -1.000 -1.000 10.000 [52.000] i m getting this error when i try loading filliment. I tell like slot to to load in toolhead gets to toolhead then error shows up. i give extrude command and i see filiment come out

graceful cape
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Seems like values in AFC_macro_vars.cfg file have not been updated with the correct values for your printer. Have you also going through the initial startup guide?

lyric tiger
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I'm lost on the initial start up guide

graceful cape
lyric tiger
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im not sure what to do next start up guide isent as detailed as i would like it to be

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ive gone through the inital start upguide but it doesnt have want im looking for

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like theres no guide on setting up the cutting tool in klipper

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right now my tool head homes at the center of the bed

rich goblet
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This page tells you what each macro variable does and how to set them. The printer homing to the center of the machine isn’t something AFC would affect

lyric tiger
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does this also need to be in my printer.cfg

rich goblet
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No, this should be included with the entire AFC include

lyric tiger
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im slowly figuring it out i dont like them instructions

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but im getting there

rich goblet
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The instructions outline everything that needs changed. Every printer is different so there’s no way to say “here’s the values you should always use”

lyric tiger
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on im confused

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variable pin loc xy is saying its xy coordiantes of depressor pinm

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but instreuctions says its something eles

cloud hedge
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where does it say something else

lyric tiger
cloud hedge
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those are different variables

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they are not hte sam ething

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if you for example have the cutting arm just touching the pin at say 20, 300

then setting pin park dist to 6 means that when it moves to do the cut, it will go to 26, 300 first.

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this gives it a safety clearance to approach as well as gives it a bit of space to accelerate o get to target speed for the cut.

lyric tiger
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variable cut move dist should it be 8.0 or 8.5

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also is there a macro for the ams box turtle fan control cause its blasting full throttle all the time

shy rock
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that 100% depends on your toolhead and cutter arm

shy rock
lyric tiger
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ok

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whats the point of the fan if there isent fan control

shy rock
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it was a free add-on, its straight to 5V power, and someone accidentally spec'd a high rpm fan

lyric tiger
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okay is there a file for a poop bucket for the voron 2.4

lyric tiger
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never mind foudn it

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okay im not sure if ill do a poop yet

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got this error

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cut move distance is 8.0

shy rock
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... did you set the XY location?

lyric tiger
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yes

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x and y is 7,350 before compressiong cutting tool

shy rock
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ok, but you can't go to -1 according to your cfg

lyric tiger
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okay i changed it to 6.5 and that work i heard the filliment cut

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i did bt tool unload and nothing happend tool head is at temp

shy rock
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is it loaded?
what does AFC_status get you? screen shot this please

lyric tiger
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looks like it dident cut it completely

cloud hedge
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what is your pin park loc xy

lyric tiger
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7,350

cloud hedge
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then you can't do 7 - 8 and get -1 and be within your movable print area...

lyric tiger
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i chancged it to 8,350 abd ctut move to 8 i think that worked

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did a t0 load got this error

cloud hedge
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your park location is probably set to -1, -1

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you need to go through and set proper values for everything this is documented on the guide

lyric tiger
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all under macro vars.cfg

cloud hedge
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look for -1, -1

those values are defaults and will not work.

lyric tiger
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found variable park loc xy where should this be next to nozzle wipe or purge bucket

cloud hedge
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wherever you want hte toolhead to be while the filament is unloaded/loaded

lyric tiger
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trying to bt change tool getting this error

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i have cut setting

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purge location set

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and park setr

graceful cape
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The software thinks your hub sensor is triggered, check your hub to see if a lanes filament is still within the hub or see of filament broke off and is still stuck triggering the hub switch

lyric tiger
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still getting the load error

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all slots have filliment loaded in i can do t0 command

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filliment loads extruders parks and kicks filliment and does nozzle wipe but when i do bt change tool to go to slot 2 its says lane 2 hub not clean when trying to load

shy rock
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what if you just use T1

lyric tiger
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if i click t2 same thing

graceful cape
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Can you upload your AFC.log please, upload them all as well

lyric tiger
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my afc config

graceful cape
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not your config but your log files, same place where you find your klippy log

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Machine-> Click on logs in the drop down

lyric tiger
graceful cape
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well I was hoping for a log that also had the T0 load sequence in it as well, there should be 5 total logs. Maybe one of them has the load sequence it in.

lyric tiger
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ok so i got it to almost work got it to swtich from slot 1 to 2

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2 to 3

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but failing to go to 4

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i think slot 4 needs to be calibrated

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fo you have the command for that

graceful cape
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AFC_CALIBRATION

lyric tiger
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print start macro this is what i have now

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should i just delete that and replace it with this

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or add it

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for some reason when i try to calibrat lane 4 it pushes the filliment the wrong way

shy rock
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Remove the ! on the dir_pin under lane 4 in Turtle_1 cfg then

lyric tiger
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got all slots to load and unload

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what should i do about the g code

lyric tiger
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got everything to work how to i get the box turtle serial

graceful cape
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#serial-info