Error trying to import afcDeltaTime, [Solved] | ArmoredTurtle 3D | Page 1

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:24 AM

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so i tried updating the new update after a few weeks of irl making it hard for me to get to it but now when i try to i updated it through putty in ssh instead of on mainsail but and i tried todo the recomented error msg step but it still dosent wanna import delta time i could use a bit of help

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any thoughts?

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halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:33 AM

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clear thicket any thoughts?

Please SSH into you host, run ls klipper/klippy/extras/AFC*, and copy the output here.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:34 AM

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klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_assist.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_NightOwl.py
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_BoxTurtle.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_poop.py
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_BoxTurtle.pyc klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_prep.py
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_buffer.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_prep.pyc
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_error.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC.py
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_error.pyc klipper/klippy/extras/AFC.pyc
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_extruder.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_respond.py
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_extruder.pyc klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_respond.pyc
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_form_tip.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_spool.py
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_form_tip.pyc klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_spool.pyc
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_functions.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_stepper.py
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_functions.pyc klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_unit.py
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_hub.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_unit.pyc
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_led.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_utils.py
klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_logger.py klipper/klippy/extras/AFC_utils.pyc

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:34 AM

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halcyon crescent Please SSH into you host, run `ls klipper/klippy/extras/AFC*`, and copy the outp...

there u go

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:36 AM

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Hm, everything should be there...

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:36 AM

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a few are greyed out

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idk if that helps

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:37 AM

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clear thicket a few are greyed out

That's OK, that's only because they are different types of files.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:37 AM

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fair xD

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:37 AM

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Let's just try it all again:

cd ~/AFC-Klipper-Add-On/
./install-afc.sh
<press U two times>

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:37 AM

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allready did

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i have tried that step xD

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if u look up in chat

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that was the 2th reinstall of the update

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#1355472688604512379 message

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but just in case

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same result

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:40 AM

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Is the AFC the current version, i.e. did you run a git pull before?

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:40 AM

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afc is currently

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AFC Klipper Add On
v1.0.4-4-g75b631c3

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and i updated through the ssh install hit msg to update afc klipper addon

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not through mainsail

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:42 AM

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Hm.

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I guess service klipper restart doesn't change anything?

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:43 AM

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if this info helps il provide it just in case

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im running a pi 3b+

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with python 3

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abd yes service klipper restart dosent help

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and*

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:43 AM

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Could you upload your klipper log please?

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:44 AM

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📎 klippy_16.log

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:46 AM

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Ok, that helps. Found something. Give me a few minutes to figure out something.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:46 AM

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tyt

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:48 AM

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Which exact version of Python are you using?

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I bet it's < 3.8.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:51 AM

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i cant remember

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whats the command to check again

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:52 AM

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~/klippy-env/bin/python --version

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:52 AM

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well

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ur almost right in the version

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Python 3.7.3

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:54 AM

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AFC requires >= 3.8, unfortunately.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:54 AM

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it worked fine on 3.7.3

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before the update

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but i guess il have to update

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:55 AM

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The error is caused because Python 3.7 doesn't understand some syntax that AFC uses. The code using this syntax is probably new.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:55 AM

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yep so now i need to find the command to update the puthon

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:56 AM

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Yeah. You need to recreate the klippy-env.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:56 AM

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so git reset --hard im persunming

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:56 AM

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In which directory?

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:57 AM

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pi@mainsailos:~ $ ~/klippy-env/bin/python --version
Python 3.7.3

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:57 AM

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No, no git reset there.

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Do you even have a newer version on python on your host? What does python --version (without the ~/klippy-env/bin/ part) output?

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:58 AM

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that one is reporting 2.7.16

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pi@mainsailos:~ $ python --version
Python 2.7.16

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 9:59 AM

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And python3 --version?

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 9:59 AM

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Python 3.7.3

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ik my system config is a mess on this printer as its a test bed while im slowly self sourcing parts for a 300mm voron 2.4

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:01 AM

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When's the last time you updated your system? 😉
An which Debian version are you running?

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3.7 is old.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:01 AM

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Debian version idk

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last time i updated my sistem last year i think

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system*

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:01 AM

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clear thicket Debian version idk

cat /etc/debian_version

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:01 AM

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when i first added the box turtle and installed canbus

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pi@mainsailos:~ $ cat /etc/debian_version
10.13

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:02 AM

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Yeah, that's old, too. Current one is 12.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:02 AM

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as i said the system is a mess xD

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its long overdue for a overhaul

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:04 AM

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Try sudo apt update, followed by apt info python3.
This will not upgrade installed software, but should show the newest Python3 available to you.

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:04 AM

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clear thicket its long overdue for a overhaul

I agree 🤣

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:04 AM

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xD

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but i havent rly had a need to update it til now

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now it all seems to be colliding with this old build

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cant wait to finish my 2.4

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xD

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ok so its done and reporting this

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Hit:1 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster InRelease
Hit:2 https://download.docker.com/linux/raspbian buster InRelease
Hit:3 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:06 AM

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Now apt info python3.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:06 AM

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pi@mainsailos:~ $ apt info python3
Package: python3
Version: 3.7.3-1
Priority: optional
Section: python
Source: python3-defaults
Maintainer: Matthias Klose [email protected]
Installed-Size: 191 kB
Provides: python3-profiler
Pre-Depends: python3-minimal (= 3.7.3-1)
Depends: python3.7 (>= 3.7.3-1~), libpython3-stdlib (= 3.7.3-1)
Suggests: python3-doc (>= 3.7.3-1), python3-tk (>= 3.7.2-1~), python3-venv (>= 3.7.3-1)
Replaces: python3-minimal (<< 3.1.2-2)
Homepage: https://www.python.org/
Cnf-Extra-Commands: python
Cnf-Priority-Bonus: 5
Download-Size: 61.5 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: no
APT-Sources: http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/main armhf Packages
Description: interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version)
Python, the high-level, interactive object oriented language,
includes an extensive class library with lots of goodies for
network programming, system administration, sounds and graphics.
.
This package is a dependency package, which depends on Debian's default
Python 3 version (currently v3.7).

Python.org

Welcome to Python.org

The official home of the Python Programming Language

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:07 AM

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Yeah, was afraid it's going to say that...

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Tbh, I don't see a nice and easy solution atm.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:07 AM

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ugh

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so in other words the newest boxturtle update has bricked the printer for now

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:08 AM

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It has broken AFC. If you remove AFC, everything else should continue to work.

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We either have to get your printer up-to-date, or we need a change in AFC to make it compatible with Python 3.7 again.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:09 AM

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well as far as i see im the only one with the issue so best option for the wider community would be me just giving the printer a overhaul xD

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:10 AM

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It would also make you future proof. You can expect support for 3.7 to drop from other software as well.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:10 AM

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welp guess im picking up a pi 4 or 5

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:10 AM

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A pi 5 is overkill, if you ask me. For just running Klipper, a pi 4 is more than enough.

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We could downgrade your AFC for now.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:11 AM

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true

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:11 AM

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Let me find out which revision did introduce that syntax that 3.7 doesn't like.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:11 AM

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allright

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otherwise idm upgrading the pi

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the pi im running this off is a 3b+ from 2018

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so its way overdue for a upgrade

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:12 AM

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I certainly would advise updating your system. At least the software.
But there's no harm in getting your AFC to work again in the meantime.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:12 AM

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true but its not crusial to get it working right this minute xD

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i still got 2 other printers to use in the meantime

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plus if i upgrade to a pi 4 i can get the hard reset the pi 3b+ and use it on the prusa i3 mk3s+

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:14 AM

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Ok, in that case downgrading AFC might be a waste of time.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:14 AM

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yep il just have to wait til payday on monday

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otherwise il just keep trying to jailbreak the a1 mini

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:15 AM

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lol. And then port AFC to it 😉

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A1 mini with a BT 😄

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:15 AM

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xD exactly xD

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like imagin if we could spoof bambu commands for the box turtle onto bambu machine

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that would be awesome

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like i allready am working on jailbreaking the ams lite for other printers

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but if we could get box turtle to run on bambu

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xD

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eitherway il not end this discussion threat right now as the problem isnt solved but il come back when i get the pi 4

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wait i just realised what if we made the box turtle prusa compatible xD

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that could be funny xD

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:18 AM

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clear thicket eitherway il not end this discussion threat right now as the problem isnt solved...

Sure, leave it open until it either works with the Pi 4, or you need more help making it work.

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 10:19 AM

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halcyon crescent Sure, leave it open until it either works with the Pi 4, or you need more help m...

i will til then take care

halcyon crescent Mar 29, 2025, 10:19 AM

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You too.

gaunt imp Mar 29, 2025, 4:46 PM

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Thanks for bringing this up, I'll update the install script to explicitly fail if python < 3.8 is found

clear thicket Mar 29, 2025, 8:29 PM

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no problem

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it just came along as i was trying to update

clear thicket Mar 31, 2025, 6:13 AM

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hey rolf quick question im looking at all the pi4's and i see some have 1gb and some have 8gb ram wich one would u recoment?

clear thicket Mar 31, 2025, 6:15 AM

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halcyon crescent You too.

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halcyon crescent Mar 31, 2025, 7:12 AM

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clear thicket hey rolf quick question im looking at all the pi4's and i see some have 1gb and ...

My Pi 4 has 2 GB of RAM, and that's been enough. I wouldn't go down to 1 GB. Going up certainly won't harm, except for the higher price.

clear thicket Mar 31, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Ok il be getting a 2gb to be aafe then

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Thanks for the awnser

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 11:37 AM

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Pi arrived 2gb model will be redoing all system configs on it so when its all done its up to date

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 12:27 PM

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currently prepping a brand new sd card for the new pi with mainsailos only on it then after il update all system needs

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:10 PM

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clear thicket currently prepping a brand new sd card for the new pi with mainsailos only on it...

you'd be better off starting with raspbian lite, the mainsaol OS is behind on Debian release

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 1:11 PM

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that might be a bit of a issue right now my sd card reader is giving me issues with trying to write to the new sd card

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so i might have to change from my desktop to laptop for the writing

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gotta love technology at times xD

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ok laptop is ready

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where do i find the raspbian lite in the raspberry pi imager

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:19 PM

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its under raspbian Pi OS (other)

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 1:21 PM

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found it tho its calling itself raspberry pi os lite even tho its acually raspbian

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:22 PM

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yeah, it just donesn't have the full Desktop pieces that the Full OS has

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 1:22 PM

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makes sense

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makes it perfect for newest packages and then useing kiauh to install mainsail

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:23 PM

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yeah, kiauh just does more heavy lifting this way

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 1:24 PM

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well wont be a issue i managed to copy printer.cfg and so on from the old pi and i can still boot up the old pi to retrive more stuff

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:24 PM

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but the Bookwork raspbian seems to be much better more stable for TTC errors on klipper

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nice!, make sure to grab the moonraker database too if you want to keep print hours and such

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 1:25 PM

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na i aint worried about the database

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after all its a test bench printer that i usually swap components to test on

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so updating it and getting it back to working order means i can start the next upgrade sooner than later

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wich will be a diy trident mod

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:26 PM

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lol fair enough I just try to keep an eye on hours for maintenance cycles

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 1:27 PM

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lol i will be doing that on my v2.4 im building rn

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but for a half assed mercury one.1 that i keep swapping components on

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it just aint worth the effort to keep data that keeps changing

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:28 PM

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Those hours rack up fast sometimes

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 1:28 PM

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yes they xD

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plus now that the mercury is finaly getting a new pi

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i can start my side project

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installing klipper on a prusa i3 mk3s+

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:29 PM

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lol, seems like a waste but good luck

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 1:29 PM

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lol aint a waste

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the prusa works but its slow and outdated

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while i would normaly buy the upgrade to mk 3.5

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it aint in the budget atm

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so im making due with what i have on hand

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:30 PM

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fair, I tried to upgrade my first printer but now its in pieces

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 1:31 PM

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lol thats why i upgraded my 2th printer first

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cause the 2th one was a 2th hand ender 5

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so i made it a test bed

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and the prusa made parts for it

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but now that im used to klipper the prusa is slow in compairson

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so if i gotta upgrade the test bed to a pi4 i got a left over pi3b+

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so might aswell try to make it work

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xD

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and ugh

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now the raspberry wont let me ssh

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into it

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 1:40 PM

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not on the network maybe?

gaunt imp Apr 3, 2025, 2:11 PM

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Or did you not enable it in the imager?

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 2:29 PM

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its on the network

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and its enabled

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so il probably do what i usually do whipe it and retry

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would probably help if i move out soon to have full control over my network instead of useing the parents net

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and im back in it

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turns out the router was treating the new pi like a intruder so had to whitelist it

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now im ssh'd in and updating everything

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installing klipper then mainsail

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and yes im running through kiauh xD

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its back up

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now i just need to grab my print start config reinstall afc and port my afc folder update all system packages and that should be ready

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 3:03 PM

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yeah this is when all the extras get annoying lol, then time to clone it for backup reasons

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 3:07 PM

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lol well atleast all my dependancies is done

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now i need to get the afc folder then update afc

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plus the print start

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and since kamp is build into klipper now i dont need to redownload it

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but first a dinner break xD

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 4:31 PM

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got back from dinner and realised

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fk now i need to redo canbus

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Ugh

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 4:36 PM

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😅 hopefully following the guide makes it easy. No need to flash anything

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 4:51 PM

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well it seems im encountering a problem

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sigh

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nvm found out why

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nvm

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aparently installing katapult didnt help

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 4:55 PM

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obsidian lantern 😅 hopefully following the guide makes it easy. No need to flash anything

i mean if i can get the can network to work id have a clue xD

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 4:56 PM

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https://canbus.esoterical.online/Getting_Started.html I recomend folowing this guide

Esoterical’s CANBus Guide

Getting Started

A guide for setting up CANBus hardware on 3D printers

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 4:57 PM

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funny enough i did

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 4:57 PM

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why are you in nano then?

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 4:58 PM

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cause as far as i remember thats usually the way

obsidian lantern Apr 3, 2025, 4:58 PM

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no necessary if you're following that guide

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 4:58 PM

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weird guess il try following through the guide

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done

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guess once its reloaded

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il see if that worked

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til then once i restarted il reinstall afc

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cause rn the pi isnt installed on the printer

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its just on the side of my desk

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To change the printer config directory, please re-run this script with a '-m <pa th>' option.
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄

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new error yay!

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nvm

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got pastt it

clear thicket Apr 3, 2025, 5:24 PM

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ok moment of truth

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or wait nvm

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was about to go install it when i saw a error

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fixed

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moment of truth time to go install the pi

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brb

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first error is good error

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huge success

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i will thank everyone here for theyr help from figureing out i needed a new pi to acually getting all this done

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i can say this problem is solved

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Error trying to import afcDeltaTime, [Solved]

light mist Apr 8, 2025, 4:25 AM

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clear thicket got pastt it

How did you get around this "To change the prenter config directory" issue? I installed AFC on my other SOC (CB1) and it ran fine, but now on the CM5 it's giving me that issue. Do I need to actually specify a path, or just add -m <path> after running the .sh command?

distant gorge Apr 8, 2025, 4:28 AM

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light mist How did you get around this "To change the prenter config directory" issue? I in...

can you put a screenshot of what you are taking about?

light mist Apr 8, 2025, 4:29 AM

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distant gorge can you put a screenshot of what you are taking about?

distant gorge Apr 8, 2025, 4:33 AM

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light mist

are you trying to change the printers config directory or install AFC?

light mist Apr 8, 2025, 4:34 AM

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I just want to install AFC. When I run the standard script cd ~ git clone https://github.com/ArmoredTurtle/AFC-Klipper-Add-On.git cd AFC-Klipper-Add-On ./install-afc.sh The screen launches and I try to install and I get that error that won't let me progress.

distant gorge Apr 8, 2025, 4:35 AM

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press I instead of 1

light mist Apr 8, 2025, 4:35 AM

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LOL

#Error trying to import afcDeltaTime, [Solved]