#Nothing seems to work, but it says everything is fine

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idle pollen
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Hi! I really stink at the firmware part. But, I got the hardware running. Self checks run. No LEDs light up. I don't hear motors spinning when I run tests. I'd love some help configuring this thing. https://termbin.com/ziaj Thanks

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<@&1304550334839918672> 🙂

novel nebula
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<@&1304550334839918672> assemble

idle pollen
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oh snap, here we go!

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This is very exciting, I was messaging anyone I could find for like 30 mins before someone told me there's a proper procedure.

novel nebula
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Morning morning, still early here in the US and most of us are just getting going/working. I’ll do what I can, but can’t be super responsive right now

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Haha

idle pollen
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No sweat, I'm just happy that there are humans who can help. I'm notoriously awful with the configs and firmware stuff

novel nebula
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Lemme take a look at the configs and see if I see anything glaring there

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1 CAN device, this must be your toolhead. What toolhead board are you using?

idle pollen
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AFC-Lite I think? Whatever came in the LDO kit. It's configured via USB. When I start up, i hear the fan, and some motors turning. then that's it

novel nebula
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Yeah, I see the AFC-Lite installed as USB/Serial, you also have a single CAN ID on top of that. Do you have like a BTT EBB36 or similar board in the toolhead?

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Hopefully I’m not being too difficult on this, just trying to get a better grasp on what we’re working with

idle pollen
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MKS-THR

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you kiddin' me? Difficult? you're helping me, friend. You know what they say about gift horses.

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sorry didn't have notifications enabled

novel nebula
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All good. Scrolling through the debug link you provided everything looks fine, nothing in particular is sticking out other than it doesn’t look like you have a buffer installed

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It’s not necessary to get it going, but it is needed long term as it allows the two extruders to be close but not perfectly synced

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Okay, on to the next thing though, can you take a video of the behavior you’re observing?

idle pollen
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sorry back, still not getting notifs

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i do have a buffer installed. what else is werid, i don't see an LED config section in the AFC_Hardware

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happy to do a video, but the behavior is basically no LEDs lighting up. let me try to actually put filament in and see what happens, if anything

eternal stag
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They should be red if no filament is present

idle pollen
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LEDs don't light up at all, there's nothing in the confg about them though, so that's probably why

novel nebula
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AFC_led AFC_Indicator is defined

eternal stag
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It’s in turtle_1 double check you got the right port as only one is setup by default

novel nebula
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It’s near the bottom of your Turtle_1 config

idle pollen
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sorry where's that...

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novel nebula
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AFC_Turtle_1.cfg I believe

idle pollen
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ah ok guide said hardware, i thought

novel nebula
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There were some config changes, maybe that was missed and needs updated

idle pollen
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any idea for the LDO kit what the order should be?

novel nebula
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GRBW is right for LDO kits afaik

eternal stag
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It’s all correct for LDO kit I changed nothing but tool head parameters

idle pollen
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pretty confident i have it in the right place, too

eternal stag
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Well also xy locations

novel nebula
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Should be the bottom most LED port, can you take a pic of your wiring?

idle pollen
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yeah sec

novel nebula
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Yeah, that looks right

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We can try moving it to another port and changing the config to match

idle pollen
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did the vid come thru?

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LEDs are the least of our worries lol

novel nebula
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That’s true

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and the video isn’t loading for me, just a still image

eternal stag
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I don’t have diagrams in front of me but is your buck/usb switch on buck?

novel nebula
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Nice catch, it’s not

idle pollen
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FUUUU

novel nebula
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Power everything off, flip the switch on the AFC-Lite to the opposite position

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Haha, gotta love simple things though!

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LEDs should come to life as well with that

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They’re powered by the buck converter

idle pollen
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it was actually on BUCK

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i flipped it without powering down, that was dumb

novel nebula
idle pollen
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yeah.... rebooting. hope i didn't fry something

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welcome to how the sausage gets made here at TNL

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there's usually at least 1 finger in there

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when it boots up, some motors somehwere make noise, i think steppers

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it's booted up, with it at BUCK

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LEDS WORK! Maybe the switch wasn't ALLLLLL the way over

novel nebula
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Haha

idle pollen
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none of the loaders work, though. same as in video

novel nebula
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You should hear a bunch of motors move now

idle pollen
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something is spinning but it's not turning the roll or pulling the filament. Do I need to push in deep to get it to pull the filament...?

novel nebula
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Yes

idle pollen
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that explains it. FILAMENT LOADED YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARDS (OR BASTARDETTES)

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so, now I need to tell it where the cutter pin is + how long from the box turtle to the toolhead, yes? I have 2 toolhead filament sensors, not sure where to config that

novel nebula
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Pin_tool_end in AFC_Turtle_1.cfg for the lower sensor

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And AFC_Calibrate for automatic Bowden length calibration :)

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Load all 4 lanes with filament, run that for measurements between turtle extruders and hub, then run it with 1 lane chosen for Bowden between turtle hub and toolhead

idle pollen
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so i remover the lower sensor from the config elsewhere, i presume

novel nebula
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If you have it defined elsewhere, yes

eternal stag
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It’s supposed. To be in hardware cfg

novel nebula
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It is… these config file changes got me all messed up

idle pollen
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he's right 🙂

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i love you guys so much right now

novel nebula
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I’m still running hacked together configs from 4 months ago lol

idle pollen
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let me now connect a bowden toob to the toolhead and see what this thing can do

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my USB port is sticking out of the bottom, hopefully the legs are long enough to accommodate that...

novel nebula
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The calibration will be slow

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They should be

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We’d recommend a 90 degree USB in most cases just in case

idle pollen
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ah ok, i got one 🙂

novel nebula
idle pollen
novel nebula
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AFC_CALIBRATION

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Sorry, I’m pulling a lot from memory and things don’t always get remember correctly lol

idle pollen
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no worries

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you've been super helpful

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i'll go get a camera and record this bit

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hmm spool didn't rewind it just yeeted the filament back

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i didn't assemble the roller things myself so i'm worried they're no good

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and do i do this calibration for each lane then?

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and you guys mentioned doing something to tell it there's a buffer...

novel nebula
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Sorry, was half awake. Looking again buffer is defined correctly

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So you’re good there. You want to do the hub calibration on each lane, the entire Bowden length is only needed from 1 lane

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You can test the spoolers with TEST LANE=LANEx command

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They should spin pretty freely though

idle pollen
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they just buzz when i do that, i guess that's fine

novel nebula
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Nope, they should move if no filament is on them

idle pollen
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boy, that fan in the back sure is annoying

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oh, i have filament loaded on them

novel nebula
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Unplug it

idle pollen
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yeah?

novel nebula
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The fan is optional really

idle pollen
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can't control in soft?

novel nebula
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Nope, that’s an always on 5v header

idle pollen
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annoying. yeah i'll ditch that lol

novel nebula
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And the fan that’s included is like a 12k fan or something silly

idle pollen
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ok i think we're good... so like... do i print something now? Or should I finish the assembly

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oh, wait, i gotta config the cutter

novel nebula
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You should figure out the spoolers, then do all the macro locations

idle pollen
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meaning, remove filament, test again

novel nebula
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Yeah, see what it does

idle pollen
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k... uh... why won't it let me pull out the filament?

novel nebula
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If they don’t spin real quick, remove the spoolers and check gear mesh

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Eject it

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BT_LANE_EJECT LANE=laneX

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The BT extruders are always engaged

idle pollen
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oh boy. the motors don't spin

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none of em'

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which makes me think it's not just hardware

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nevermind, at least one spins... lol

novel nebula
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If you hear noise but they don’t move, it’s entirely hardware

idle pollen
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k i should let you start your day

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i'll work on this 🙂

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thanks again

novel nebula
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It’s likely the gears aren’t meshed quite right

idle pollen
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yeah they didn't line up nicely

novel nebula
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You can take them out and mess with the sides a bit to get them nice

idle pollen
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rebuilt the two of them, still not working properly. and 3 and 4 aren't exactly moving smoothly either

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almost feels like i need more juice to the motors

idle pollen
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Is this the right place to get help on those? Or should I reach out to LDO

dapper skiff
dapper skiff
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@river vault

river vault
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Thank you

river vault
idle pollen
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hi friends. I'm available to go to the studio today, if someone is arround. I used the LDO gears (MJF)