dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 10:48 PM

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Disaster1234

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 10:48 PM

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Ok, will have you run a bunch of things from the cli first

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 10:48 PM

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ok let me get putty up

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 10:49 PM

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sudo apt install tree and then cd ~/printer_data and tree -d. I only need the output from tree -d

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 10:51 PM

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cd ~/printer_data

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 10:52 PM

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and tree -d

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 10:52 PM

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i did tree-d

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 10:52 PM

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can you show me the output?

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 10:52 PM

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unless i did the -d tree wrong

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 10:53 PM

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can you show me the output of tree -d

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it should look something like

├── backup
│   └── 20230913T232928Z
│       └── config
├── certs
├── comms
├── config
│   ├── adxl_results
│   │   └── motors_sync
│   ├── AFC
│   │   ├── macros
│   │   └── mcu
│   ├── config
│   ├── config_backups
│   ├── KAMP -> /home/eric/Klipper-Adaptive-Meshing-Purging/Configuration
│   ├── macros
│   ├── plugins
│   │   └── filter_monitor
│   ├── scripts
│   ├── ShakeTune_results
│   │   ├── axes_map
│   │   ├── belts
│   │   ├── input_shaper
│   │   ├── static_freq
│   │   └── vibrations
│   ├── ukam -> /home/eric/ukam
│   └── update
│       ├── config
│       ├── examples
│       └── images
├── data
│   └── backups
├── database
├── gcodes
├── klipper_menuconfigs
├── logs
├── misc
└── systemd```

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but obviously different

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 10:53 PM

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 10:54 PM

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and run a ls -l ~

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 10:55 PM

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 10:56 PM

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and find . -name "AFC*.cfg"

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 10:57 PM

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brought me back to >

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 10:58 PM

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cd ~ && rm -rf AFC-Klipper-Add-On

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 10:58 PM

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ok

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 10:58 PM

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So basically right now, none of the AFC stuff is installed

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cd ~
git clone https://github.com/ArmoredTurtle/AFC-Klipper-Add-On.git
cd AFC-Klipper-Add-On
./install-afc.sh

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answer all the questions..and then run cd ~/printer_data && tree -d again

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:01 PM

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~/printer_data not a directory

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:02 PM

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cd ~ && tree -d

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scatch that, too much output

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cd ~ && ls -l

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:02 PM

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manaual type it

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:03 PM

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Ok, great. Upload a copy of your printer.cfg

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or just grep include ~/printer_data/config/printer.cfg if it is easier

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:04 PM

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📎 printer.cfg

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:06 PM

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Ok, perfect, it is setup to do the proper includes

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:06 PM

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yea been fighing with this for probaly two weeks now

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:07 PM

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edit your ~/printer_data/config/AFC/AFC_Hardware.cfg to reflect the proper serial: or canbus_uuid as applicable. Is your AFC wired up per Github?

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:07 PM

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yes

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not showing afc in klipper

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:09 PM

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Did you restart klipper? sudo systemctl restart klipper

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:09 PM

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nevermind it jsut showed up

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:09 PM

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Ok, great. Progress then

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Is your BT like fully built and wired?

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:09 PM

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yes

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printer not ready

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:11 PM

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one step at a time

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run curl -s localhost/printer/objects/query?AFC | jq .

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:12 PM

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:12 PM

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Progress

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ok, I'm guessing it is still in startup right?

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:13 PM

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yes

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no prep nothing

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:13 PM

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upload a klippy.log

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lets see what is going on there

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:13 PM

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📎 klippy.log

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:14 PM

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Thanks, one second

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:14 PM

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Now it popped up[ saying soemthing bout TN2

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:14 PM

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yes

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look at your ~/printer_data/config/AFC/mcu/TurtleNeckv2.cfg

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the serial: /dev/serial/by-id/**YOUR SERIAL HERE** part

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:15 PM

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I dont have the serial Im noit able to flash it

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:15 PM

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Ok, lets disable it then

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:16 PM

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ok

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:17 PM

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in your ~/printer_data/config/AFC/AFC.cfg file, there is a line, probably around line 6 that should look like Buffer_Name: TN2, put a # in front of it. Then also comment out the [include mcu/TurtleNeckv2.cfg] line in the ~/printer_data/config/AFC/AFC_Hardware.cfg

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:18 PM

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ok

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reboot ?

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:19 PM

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just firmware restart

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:19 PM

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tried that ..nothing

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:19 PM

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I'm getting my BT to the same state as yours

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one second

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:19 PM

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ok

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:20 PM

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had to wipe my config away and whatnot

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:20 PM

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:20 PM

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yah, one second

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:21 PM

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👍

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ok fixed that

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:23 PM

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comment out this section in your AFC_Hardware.cfg

#[AFC_buffer TN2]
#advance_pin: !turtleneck:ADVANCE
#trailing_pin: !turtleneck:TRAILING
#multiplier_high: 1.1   # default 1.1, factor to feed more filament
#multiplier_low:  0.9   # default 0.9, factor to feed less filament
#led_index: Buffer_Indicator:1

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:23 PM

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doing that now

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:23 PM

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and the section for [AFC_led Buffer_Indicator]

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#pin: turtleneck:RGB
#chain_count: 1
#color_order: GRBW
#initial_RED: 0.0
#initial_GREEN: 0.0
#initial_BLUE: 0.0
#initial_WHITE: 0.0```

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:25 PM

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:25 PM

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upload a new klippy.log

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:25 PM

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📎 klippy_1.log

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:26 PM

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Your AFC_Hardware.cfg has this in it

[filament_switch_sensor tool_start]
switch_pin = UNKNOWN
pause_on_runout = False

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The pin should reflect your toolhead pin where the filament sensor is

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:29 PM

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goctcha

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we have movement

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prep

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:29 PM

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Have a turtle in mainsail?

6:29 PM
R  _____     ____
E /      \  |  o |
A |       |/ ___/
D |_________/
Y |_|_| |_|_|
6:29 PM
LEG4 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
6:29 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
6:29 PM
LEG2 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
6:29 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED

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something like that?

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:30 PM

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white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:30 PM

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Great!

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Don't change anything that we just did, other than when the TN2 is fixed, updating that stuff

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:31 PM

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not touching a thing

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:31 PM

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Now you need to look at the AFC.cfg and look at all of the values, and adjust the appropriately.

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You also need to look at AFC_Macro_Vars.cfg and adjust the positions to match your printer for anything you turn on. Like if you turn # Park Settings park: True # Enable Park. park_cmd: AFC_PARK then you need to just adjust the corresponding ```#--=================================================================================--#
######### Park ########################################################################
#--=================================================================================--#
[gcode_macro _AFC_PARK_VARS]
description: Park macro configuration variables
gcode: # Leave empty

Position to park the toolhead

variable_park_loc_xy : 270, 310

Height to raise Z when moving to park. Leave 0 to disable

If you want z_hop during toolchanges please set the value in the AFC.cfg

variable_z_hop : 0``` in the AFC_Macro_vars.cfg file

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:33 PM

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ok

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thank you for your time

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file structure is ok ?

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:41 PM

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yep, sorry, stray animals outside

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:41 PM

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all good ...

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:42 PM

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For right now, you can simple comment out the [include AFC/*.cfg] in your printer.cfg if you don't want to load any of the AFC stuff. I'm out on a business trip the rest of this week, but I'm sure someone else will be more than willing to help out with the next steps

dense sequoia Nov 11, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Ok and Again thank you...

white igloo Nov 11, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Not a problem at all

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Off to dinner

lean zealot Nov 12, 2024, 9:42 PM

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Did the filament get ejected when you hit load?

dense sequoia Nov 12, 2024, 9:43 PM

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I load the filament on the trays then feed until it stopped

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no

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eject

lean zealot Nov 12, 2024, 9:45 PM

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So, when you load it by hand, does the extruder grab it and pull it in further?

dense sequoia Nov 12, 2024, 9:46 PM

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hold for a sec let me take a look

lean zealot Nov 12, 2024, 9:46 PM

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If not we'll just need to reverse the stepper direction

dense sequoia Nov 12, 2024, 10:16 PM

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ok sorry broke buffer wire resoldering

dense sequoia Nov 12, 2024, 11:46 PM

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hub/switch sensor /tool start are all saying empty now

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maybe this stuff beyond my skills

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 1:23 PM

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do you have filament loaded? if not they should all say empty

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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LEG3 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
4:52 PM
LEG3 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
||==>--||----||-----||
TRG   LOAD   HUB   TOOL
4:51 PM
LEG2 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
4:51 PM
LEG2 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
||==>--||----||-----||
TRG   LOAD   HUB   TOOL
4:51 PM
LEG1 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL```  sounds like its just grinding  ..leg 1 has a roll in it

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lucid acorn Nov 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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when you are pushing it in at the trigger does the extruder pull the filament in?

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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no

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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thta looks like leg4 not leg 1

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if it's on teh far right of hte turtle

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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Yes far right

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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lanes go 1-4 left to right normally

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if you remove all filament. does it PREP cleanly

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 10:01 PM

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yes appears to o

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FAILED TO LOAD, CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
4:56 PM
FAILED TO LOAD, CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
||==>--||----||------||
TRG   LOAD   HUB    TOOL
4:54 PM
LANES READY, HUB NOT CLEAR
4:54 PM
LANES READY, HUB NOT CLEAR
||-----||----|x|-----||
TRG   LOAD   HUB   TOOL
4:54 PM
E  _ _   _ _
R |_|_|_|_|_|
R |         \____
O |              \
R |          |\ X |
! \_________/ |___|
4:54 PM
LEG4 NOT READY FAILED TO RESET EXTRUDER
4:54 PM
LEG4 NOT READY FAILED TO RESET EXTRUDER
||=====||=x--||-----||
TRG   LOAD   HUB   TOOL
4:52 PM
LEG3 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
4:52 PM
LEG3 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
||==>--||----||-----||
TRG   LOAD   HUB   TOOL
4:51 PM
LEG2 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER```

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 10:02 PM

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my thinking is either a) too tight of tension on the guidlers, b) incorrect extruder direction (try inverting dir_pin by adding or removing a ! (opposite of what is there) or c) pwm motor pins are reversed maybe?

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that is not a clean prep

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that's a dead lookin'turtle 😄

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 10:02 PM

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yea

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I agree

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 10:02 PM

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can you post your AFC/AFC_Hardware.cfg file?

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 10:03 PM

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📎 config-20241113-170319.zip

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 10:03 PM

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and post a picture of your wiring at hte AFC board, and let us know if you wired the switches Normally Open or Normally Closed?

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 10:04 PM

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Blue is all NC

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 10:07 PM

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standby

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working on osmething

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try creating a new file in printer_data/config called test-afc.cfg, contents belwo:

[mcu AFC]
canbus_uuid:  ed03c62ed475

[include AFC/mcu/AFC_Lite.cfg]

[filament_switch_sensor trg1]
switch_pin: ^!AFC:TRG1
pause_on_runout: False

[filament_switch_sensor trg2]
switch_pin: ^!AFC:TRG2
pause_on_runout: False

[filament_switch_sensor trg3]
switch_pin: ^!AFC:TRG3
pause_on_runout: False

[filament_switch_sensor trg4]
switch_pin: ^!AFC:TRG4
pause_on_runout: False

[filament_switch_sensor ext1]
switch_pin: ^AFC:EXT1
pause_on_runout: False

[filament_switch_sensor ext2]
switch_pin: ^AFC:EXT2
pause_on_runout: False

[filament_switch_sensor ext3]
switch_pin: ^AFC:EXT3
pause_on_runout: False

[filament_switch_sensor ext4]
switch_pin: ^AFC:EXT4
pause_on_runout: False

[filament_switch_sensor hub]
switch_pin: ^AFC:HUB
pause_on_runout: False

comment out hte include AFC/*.cfg and instead do include test-afc.cfg

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then you can easily see the base status of all your switches in mainsail/fluidd with the names, and see if any are change state as you test them (e.g. move the trigger)

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if they don't chagne, you hvae a broken wire. if they trigger ''backwards' you may need to invert the pin definition

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you can test the extruder ones by removing hte ptfe nad sticking a iece of filament through on the rear side and seeing if it triggers. same for hte hub.

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we have to make sure everything is mechanically correct before we try to tackle the software side of things.

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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👍

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 10:37 PM

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now its giving me another errorr ..auto made a back up file I have to mess with it tomorrow or Saturday

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Include file '/home/pi/printer_data/config/AFC/AFC/mcu/AFC_Lite.cfg' does not exist
i didn't create a 2nd AFC folder

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 10:39 PM

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Hmmm maybe I have a typo

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 10:40 PM

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Unknown config object 'AFC'

Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the "RESTART"
command to reload the config and restart the host software.
Printer is halted```

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 10:41 PM

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Send main printer.cfg please

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I’m away from PC but maybe someone else will spot something

lean zealot Nov 13, 2024, 10:41 PM

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Just sat down, so if you send that I can take a look

lucid acorn Nov 13, 2024, 10:43 PM

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Because you commented out the AFC folder you no longer have the aliases to reference.

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 10:45 PM

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Be later tonight have to take care of few things tonight I can be back aon around 10pm est. or another day .thanks everyone

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 10:47 PM

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try just include mcu/AFC_Lite.cfg instead that line

dense sequoia Nov 13, 2024, 10:51 PM

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hidden plank try just include mcu/AFC_Lite.cfg instead that line

nope same error ..ill be back on tonight

hidden plank Nov 13, 2024, 11:37 PM

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Zip up printer_data/config directory and klippy.log and send if you get a chance later

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:34 AM

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📎 config-20241113-213430.zip 📎 klippy_4.log

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:36 AM

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Can you zip your entire printer_data/config folder? That zip only had printer.cfg in it

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:38 AM

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📎 config-20241113-213754.zip

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:38 AM

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That's better, lemme look here

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:38 AM

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ok

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 2:41 AM

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missing the test-afc.cfg i sent

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:41 AM

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Yep, hold on Thunder

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 2:42 AM

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alirght

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you got this

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:42 AM

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📎 test-afc.cfg

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Please upload this in your config directory

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Change lines 11 and 12 of printer.cfg to this

[include test-afc.cfg]```

lucid acorn Nov 14, 2024, 2:45 AM

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Remember he needs the afc aliases

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:45 AM

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lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:45 AM

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oop hold on

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:45 AM

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lucid acorn Remember he needs the afc aliases

Aliases are included I believe

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 2:46 AM

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aliases are i nthe AFC/mcu/AFC_Lite.cfg file

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:46 AM

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They're included in the test file Thunder profiled earlier

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Yeah

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ping TRG1 used multiple times... excuse me wat

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 2:47 AM

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config/printer.cfg:[include AFC/.cfg]
config/printer.cfg:[include AFC/.cfg]

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he has it in printer.cfgt twice

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on line 11 and on line 1219

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:48 AM

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OH

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Because of the installer

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Mike, delete the include on line 1219 near the bottom of your file

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:49 AM

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removed saved restart ..same

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i was gioing to say I didnt put that in line 1219

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:50 AM

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No, the installer did it

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:51 AM

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rebooted and no prep

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:51 AM

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Nope, we disabled software, but you have all your lanes now

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 2:52 AM

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so you see how your triggers are different?

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:52 AM

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I see 3 lanes loaded

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 2:52 AM

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one is empty (good)

the others are detected (not good unless you're holding them)

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:52 AM

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This

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Do you still have some of your lanes loaded from earlier?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:53 AM

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far right lane

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 2:53 AM

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ok

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so that's actually good

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it means you just have pins backwards probably

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:53 AM

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Unload it and see if Trg1 changes

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:54 AM

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it changesd

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:54 AM

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Okay, so you have your lanes backwards

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:54 AM

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4 lane did so the pins are backwards

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 2:54 AM

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well, backwards and pins inverted

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:54 AM

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Wait, screenshot now?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:54 AM

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hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 2:55 AM

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wut

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:55 AM

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Can you check if 2 and 3's triggers are touching the switches?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:55 AM

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yea hold

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3 = 3

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2=2

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1=4

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1-1

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4-4

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1 is on left 4 is on right

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:56 AM

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Okay, do the switches all change states in Klipper when triggered?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:57 AM

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yes

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:57 AM

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Okay, so you might need to adjust the position of the switches on 2 and 3

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That's pretty simple

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Or are the legs getting stuck?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:58 AM

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3/4 are

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:58 AM

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Ah, okay

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That's going to be a you thing to figure out later on, might need to file the part a bit

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Let's move on as long as the switches are working

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 2:58 AM

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yep they are

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 2:59 AM

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Remove any PTFE between the extruders and hub

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After that, insert some filament inthe the back of the extruders and the hub and verify all of those switches are working

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:02 AM

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All good

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 3:02 AM

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Perfect! So now, make sure all switches are in an empty state report in Klipper

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After that, change lines 11 and 12 in printer.cfg to this (You can remove line 12 if you please)

#[include test-afc.cfg]```

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:03 AM

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empty sTATE

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Klipper reports: ERROR

Unknown config object 'AFC'

Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the "RESTART"
command to reload the config and restart the host software.
Printer is halted

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removed line 12

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 3:06 AM

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Okay, do a FW restart

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:07 AM

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same

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 3:07 AM

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klippy.log and screenshot of error

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:07 AM

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📎 klippy_5.log

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 3:12 AM

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Okay, can you zip everything up and send it again?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:17 AM

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📎 config-20241113-221322.zip

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 3:24 AM

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Interesting, I don't see any reason this isn't seeing the AFC

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Can you do a full host reboot?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:26 AM

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Same error

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Unknown config object 'AFC'

Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the "RESTART"
command to reload the config and restart the host software.
Printer is halted

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:27 AM

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ls -l ~/klipper/klippy/extras/AFC*

at a ssh prompt

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:29 AM

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hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:29 AM

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that all looks good

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sec

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whatever you do

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don't touch yoru hardware

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🙂

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:34 AM

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why you are working on the Im re-printing the TN internal PTFE parts

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:34 AM

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no rebuilding!

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:34 AM

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oh trust me I'm not

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:35 AM

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we're missing AFC.cfg

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no?

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you have AFC_Hardware.cfg and AFC_Macro_Vars.cfg

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but no AFC.cfg

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 3:36 AM

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Yep

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I knew I was missing something lol

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:36 AM

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that's the issue

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:36 AM

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hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:36 AM

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bma@HAVEN:/mnt/c/Users/bma/Downloads/z/config$ find . -name AFC.cfg
bma@HAVEN:/mnt/c/Users/bma/Downloads/z/config$

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 3:36 AM

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AFC/AFC.cfg

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:36 AM

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wrong screen shot

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:36 AM

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we'll need to create that

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cp ~/AFC-Klipper-Add-On/Klipper_cfg_example/AFC/AFC.cfg ~/printer_data/config/AFC/AFC.cfg

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:38 AM

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do I just run that from putty

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:38 AM

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yes

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:39 AM

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did nt like that

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:39 AM

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screenshot/error please

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:39 AM

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hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:39 AM

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oh

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i'm on an older afc

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https://github.com/ArmoredTurtle/AFC-Klipper-Add-On/blob/main/config/AFC.cfg

GitHub

AFC-Klipper-Add-On/config/AFC.cfg at main · ArmoredTurtle/AFC-Klipp...

Automated Filament Changer Software. Contribute to ArmoredTurtle/AFC-Klipper-Add-On development by creating an account on GitHub.

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here download that, then upload into config/AFC

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:42 AM

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rebooting

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Just sitting printer not ready

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:44 AM

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uh

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(I didn't tell you to reboot, but that shouldn't have done anything here)

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:45 AM

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i copied the file over

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:45 AM

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eventually it will give you an error and let you download klippy.log. send that.

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 3:45 AM

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gotcha

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 3:59 AM

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Will have to pick back up another time for me but maybe someone else can carry the torch

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:01 AM

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Uhh, where are we at?

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I have a little time before I'll crash

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:01 AM

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tn error just poped up

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 4:04 AM

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Comment out tn2 stuff

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Until we get base turtle working

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:06 AM

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git it

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got

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hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 4:07 AM

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HAPPY TURTLE

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:07 AM

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no lanes showing but i heard the lanes moiving

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:07 AM

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HAPPY TURTLE

hidden plank Nov 14, 2024, 4:07 AM

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That is prep at work

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:07 AM

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Yep

river jungle Nov 14, 2024, 4:09 AM

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Nice!

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:10 AM

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been a adventure im sure alot on my end

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getting ready to 1st coat on rc cbr 1000 motor cycle 3d print

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nothing to do with turtle

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big thanks to all

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:13 AM

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You have time to try loading stuff and verifying stepper direction?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:13 AM

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sure

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:13 AM

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Let's try Lane 1 since it wasn't sticky

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:15 AM

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Far right lane just pulsating

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Failed to load

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:16 AM

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Is that the one you tried loading?

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Did you push the filament all the way down to the extruder?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:16 AM

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yes hitting extruder

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:17 AM

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Okay, let's reverse lane 4, you will likely need to do all 4, but let's just start there

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Change line 94 on AFC_Hardware.cfg from

dir_pin: AFC:M4_DIR
to
dir_pin: !AFC:M4_DIR

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:18 AM

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got it

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saw it load

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:21 AM

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So, 4 is loaded?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:21 AM

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yes

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:22 AM

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Okay, let's do lane 1 now

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:23 AM

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I did the far right lane 1st

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and is loaded

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:23 AM

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Yep, let's do the far left one

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:26 AM

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ok

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1 didnt load

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i changed dir

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pushed filament to extruder

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:30 AM

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Did you swap before or after?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:31 AM

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before

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now says locked and loaded

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:32 AM

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1 does?

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:32 AM

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yes

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11:31 PM
LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
11:31 PM
LEG3 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
11:31 PM
LEG2 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
11:31 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:32 AM

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1 took the load now

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Well, let's try 2 and 3

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:35 AM

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11:34 PM
LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
11:34 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
11:34 PM
LEG2 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
11:34 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:35 AM

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3 lanes down

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1 to go

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:36 AM

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_184727bd-134c-40a4-a4ba-6c9753749d2e.jpg

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Turtle is loaded so far

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:37 AM

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Load lane 2

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Then you need to adjust macro positions

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:38 AM

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iam now

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:38 AM

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Once positions are good, you can start trying to change filament

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:38 AM

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11:38 PM
R _____ ____
E / \ | o |
A | |/ /
D |__/
Y ||| |||
11:38 PM
LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
11:38 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
11:38 PM
LEG2 LOCKED AND LOADED
11:38 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:40 AM

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HAPPY TURTLE

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Now just need to adjust all your positions in AFC_Macros and hit T0

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:41 AM

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already have the brush/poop/park written down

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not sure what kick is

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:42 AM

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Kick kicks the poop off, so it should be similar to poop iirc

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:43 AM

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ok I have a large brush basket back left

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i can use that for the poop

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and kick

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:43 AM

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Yep, you'd want to poop on the plate then kick it into the basket

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:44 AM

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yep

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thats the number i have

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 4:44 AM

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👍

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Set up positions, home and heat then let's see what you get for tool changes

azure steppe Nov 14, 2024, 4:45 AM

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probably a good idea to look through all your macro variables to make sure the values look correct for your printer

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 4:45 AM

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👍

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ill check g ithub to see when auto back up will the files up too

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 5:16 AM

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Ill do some testing tomorrow night

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 5:19 AM

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Whoo! At least we got it loading now

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 5:21 AM

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a big plus

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few more things Im sure

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 5:25 AM

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Yep, no more hardware changes lol

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 5:26 AM

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well leds / TN2

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but that will be it for sure

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waiting on the leds from Robert

river jungle Nov 14, 2024, 5:27 AM

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waiting on china for leds 😅

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 5:27 AM

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😛

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its all good

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 5:27 AM

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Yeah, you got the TN2 to flash, so you can start doing print stuff

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 5:27 AM

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yep

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got the PTFE tube to fit too

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4am comes early so i need to get some sleep...Again thanks for all the help

lean zealot Nov 14, 2024, 5:30 AM

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I'm right there with ya

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But yes, let us know how stuff goes tomorrow

dense sequoia Nov 14, 2024, 5:30 AM

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will do

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100%

dense sequoia Nov 15, 2024, 1:23 AM

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i have the TN2 serial number copied over and enabled the TN2 stuff

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have all the lanes loaded and filament to the extruders

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resolved it

sage cradle Nov 15, 2024, 1:57 AM

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nice!

dense sequoia Nov 15, 2024, 2:09 AM

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TN2 is lit up

dense sequoia Nov 15, 2024, 2:31 AM

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more testing probally tomorow or this weeekend

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 1:13 AM

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calling it a nite now woint see the TN2

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 1:49 AM

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dead turtle

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 1:54 AM

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Whats going on with it?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 1:57 AM

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Everything..can't see any mcus

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 1:59 AM

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OK, what was the last thing you did before that happened?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 1:59 AM

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Allxi did was reboot

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It's ok I'm tired of fussing with this stuff

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 2:01 AM

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Is there an error or anything?

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:02 AM

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dense sequoia Allxi did was reboot

OK lets take another step back then. Did you reboot because you made a config change?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:05 AM

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No change

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:09 AM

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Do you have any errors?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:10 AM

#

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i had a few MCu's a few min ago ...now nothng

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:10 AM

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Well klipper is in an error state so they may not show.

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:10 AM

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true

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:10 AM

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Is the TN2 plugged in?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:11 AM

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yes

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:11 AM

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Little green light inside is on?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:12 AM

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yes

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 2:12 AM

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Mike, can you ssh into the pi and run

ls /dev/serial/by-id

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And also please zip up your configs. To me it looks like your TN2 is unplugged (Just from the error)

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:18 AM

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changed USB plug ... ok got this now 9:17 PM

9:17 PM
LEG3 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
9:17 PM
LEG2 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
9:17 PM
LEG1 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER```

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guess bad usb

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:19 AM

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So leg 1 has been pushed outof the extruder probably

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just refeed it

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:25 AM

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Hit T0 and it ran far left and filament got stuck

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:26 AM

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T0 should try to load the left most lane, yes

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So just to make sure im following, you fed the filament in again, then hit T0 to load Leg1?

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Where did it get stuck at?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:27 AM

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I dont see any filament to the hub

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:29 AM

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What do you mean?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:30 AM

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getting stuck at the extruder

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i opened the tension door

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:32 AM

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Its not making it out of the extruder body?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:32 AM

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nope

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:33 AM

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What switches do you have

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:33 AM

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df2

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:33 AM

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Is the BB stuck?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:34 AM

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I shook the extuders to make sure they were moving around

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i manged to push filament to the hub but took some force

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I would think it shouldn't be that tight

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:35 AM

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Do you have the PTFE chamfered? Was it that?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:35 AM

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yes chambered it

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now filament stuck in ptfe wont even remove

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:36 AM

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Do you have any more of that PTFE laying around?

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If so I would take a peice of filament and see if it has a ton of drag

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:37 AM

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no i dont have anymore

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tube I have is 2.70 inside dia

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if reading it right

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2,5

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:39 AM

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Is it punching into the side?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:40 AM

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_34ad2a3c-d84f-416a-ad4e-26d235b2e4d5.jpg

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unable to see inside the tube

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on the BT

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:42 AM

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Try ejecting that lane.

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:48 AM

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ok finally got it to stop screamimng at me

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should I order some 3mm tubing

cyan shuttle Nov 16, 2024, 2:49 AM

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No.

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We need to figure out what is making the filament jam coming out of the extruder

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 2:53 AM

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appears to be soemthing wrong with leg1

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Im think im going to have to the extruders reprinted for the 3rd time they are all doing the same thing

azure steppe Nov 16, 2024, 3:02 AM

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wait why do you think reprinting the extruders will fix a problem?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 3:14 AM

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Maybe x1c not printing for abs shrinkage...but I'm not sure

azure steppe Nov 16, 2024, 3:18 AM

#

but does everything fit correctly in your extruder and you have no troubles manually pushing filament through the extruder without the motor engaged?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 3:18 AM

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no take alot pressure to push it thru

azure steppe Nov 16, 2024, 3:19 AM

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hmm ok

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If you are going to reprint, I would suggest just print one and get that working before printing all them again

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 3:20 AM

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After sitting here debating on it ..sicne it will be there 3rd time I might just hit up fabreeko and pay htem to print the parts

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 3:25 AM

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If all you need is extruder bodies, hmu we can work something out

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 3:46 AM

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Buddy is bringing over a 2mm drill bit to drill the holes out so maybe that will help

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 3:47 AM

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👍

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 5:15 AM

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dril ed out 2 lanes still the same wont even unload filament either

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hear the motors spining but that is all

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My buddy Ken says hes not sure either what to do

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 9:04 PM

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LEG1 NOT READY PAST HUB, CHECK FILAMENT PATH
4:03 PM
LEG1 NOT READY PAST HUB, CHECK FILAMENT PATH
||=====||==>--||-----||
TRG   LOAD   HUB   TOOL
4:02 PM
Extruder below min_extrude_temp, heating to 5 degrees above min
4:02 PM
Tool Change - None -> leg1
4:02 PM
T0
2:54 PM
Unknown command:"BEDFANSOFF"
2:20 PM
R  _____     ____
E /      \  |  o |
A |       |/ ___/
D |_________/
Y |_|_| |_|_|
2:20 PM
LEG4 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
2:20 PM
LEG3 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
2:20 PM
LEG2 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
2:20 PM
LEG1 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL```

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maunal push filament thru. Pretty smooth all the way to the hub

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 9:49 PM

#

What's going on with it this time?

#

Is there a ball bearing stuck in one of your extruder bodies?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 9:50 PM

#

I get locked and loaded ..just keeps pulsating for awhile

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then stops

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Im now click ing on t0

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all i get

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dang roll fell off and got damged

#

LEG1 NOT READY PAST HUB, CHECK FILAMENT PATH

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from console

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 9:54 PM

#

I hear it pulsing but not pulling any filament

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 9:54 PM

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correct

azure steppe Nov 16, 2024, 9:54 PM

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can you push the filament in more and it grab it?

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Do all lanes do that?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 9:55 PM

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yes all the lanes are dong the same

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so I took and long piece of filament ....from trigger and was able to get all the way to the hub

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manual

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 9:56 PM

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Assume that's with the guidler open?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 9:56 PM

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no guidler closed

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 9:56 PM

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You should not be able to push filament from the trigger, through the extruder, and all the way to the hub

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 9:57 PM

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so the tension too loose then

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 9:57 PM

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Tension too loose, anti-squish too far out, or your motors aren't meshing with the gears

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 9:58 PM

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give me a min ill tightend the tension a smidge

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 9:58 PM

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You could realistically crank down on them some then back the anti-squish out a smidge

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:02 PM

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Ill crank them down and back off 1 turn

sage cradle Nov 16, 2024, 10:06 PM

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one turn still digs in pretty good. might 2 or 1.5

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i think i have a mix of both 2 and 1.5 on mine

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:08 PM

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ok made it to the buffer this time

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stopped

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:08 PM

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Progress! lol

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What'd it to at the buffer? Just stop, or did it make any kind of noise?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:09 PM

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like a cranking noise

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i unloaded leg 1 the spool never reversed but kick the filament out so I had to rewinfd it on the spool

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:11 PM

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Eject doesn't run the spooler motors

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:12 PM

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that make sense

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il lsee wha tT0 does again

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I must must be missing something for the buffer

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:14 PM

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Most likely, we can go through that config in a bit because it looks like you're just missing a minor thing there

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:14 PM

#

,

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made it the buffer again so that is progress

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:16 PM

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It doesn't sound like it's trying to do the long move

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:16 PM

#

?

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:16 PM

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When it reaches the hub it should be doing a single long move but it's pulsing like it's still trying to do a short move

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:17 PM

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maybe take out the spring ?

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:17 PM

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That's not a TN2 issue, you should feed through it pretty easily

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:17 PM

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ok

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:18 PM

#

If you take the bowden off the back of the turtle and feed by hand, does it go through really easily?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:18 PM

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hold

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:18 PM

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You should make it through everything to the tool head without issue

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:22 PM

#

long tube is getting stuck

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:24 PM

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Where?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:26 PM

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im going to ran a new ptfe tube give me a few

lucid acorn Nov 16, 2024, 10:29 PM

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Do you have good chamfers on every transition of the ptfe?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:39 PM

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found the issue its the inlet of the TN2

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:40 PM

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That would do it

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_f300ecd1-89f7-404a-84ee-f981143bcccb.jpg

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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Yep, run a 2mm drill bit through that

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 10:41 PM

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have to call my buddy back up

#

got it with out calling him

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 10:55 PM

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Nice

#

Now reinstalled it and check filament path to your toolhead

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:06 PM

#

#

almost made it to the tool head

#

way better process

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:08 PM

#

Whoooo!

#

Now you just need to adjust the Bowden length there to make it

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:09 PM

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Extrude only move too long (-420.000mm vs 50.000mm)

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:09 PM

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One sec

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:10 PM

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looks like I need 180mm

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:10 PM

#

max_extrude_only_distance: 1000

#

Add this to your [extruder] section

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:11 PM

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in printer config i take it

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:12 PM

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Either in your printer.cfg or if you have a separate config for your toolhead board

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:13 PM

#

Kinda figured ok saved

#

I still need to fix the buffer thing

#

6:13 PM
Warning: No buffer defined in config file

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:14 PM

#

Can you zip and send your configs real quick?

#

And while I look at those, try doing a filament load

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:14 PM

#

yep

#

Well trying too

#

📎 config-20241116-181851.zip

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found some reading material to be more positive ...boy do I need it ..dang ADHD

#

sorry for the rant

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:21 PM

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All good

#

Buffer_Name: TN2

#

Add this to AFC.cfg

#

Near the top is fine

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:21 PM

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ok

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:21 PM

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That will fix the buffer warning you are getting

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:22 PM

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yes sir it did

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6:22 PM
R _____ ____
E / \ | o |
A | |/ /
D |__/
Y ||| |||

LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
6:22 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
6:22 PM
LEG2 LOCKED AND LOADED
6:22 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED
6:21 PM
Box_Turtle Turtle_1 Prepping lanes```

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:23 PM

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That's one happy looking turtle

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:23 PM

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now I have to look at the snappy

#

not sure if its cutting or not

azure steppe Nov 16, 2024, 11:24 PM

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snappy is broken in main, I am currently fixing it in DEV

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:24 PM

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oh really

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:24 PM

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I saw the Snappy stuff was moved in dev

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:25 PM

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filament stopped in about same spoit

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:25 PM

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Is it doing short moves?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:25 PM

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no

azure steppe Nov 16, 2024, 11:26 PM

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the pauses were taken out, it might work but I doubt it

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:26 PM

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_61625ea7-4339-492d-a7c9-faf5d1ac2508.jpg

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:27 PM

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Is it a dead stop or does it continue doing other things?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:27 PM

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dead stop

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:27 PM

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And are you able to provide a video of that?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:27 PM

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yea hold ill have to rewind it

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unload i mean

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unload did nothing this time

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:29 PM

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uhh

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Oh

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Because it doesn't think it ever loaded

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Try an eject, it'll make a mess but should pull it out

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:31 PM

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nope

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:32 PM

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mmm

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Oh

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Did you restart the printer with it there?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:32 PM

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doing that now

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:32 PM

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Don't

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:32 PM

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found a tangle in filament

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:32 PM

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Ah

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That'd stop it

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:33 PM

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yep i cut it out

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slow moves then stop like 3 or 4

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I missed it on video

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about same spot though

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:39 PM

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hmm

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interesting

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Can you unload and try to grab a video again?

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:40 PM

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yep

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wiating to see if unload will run

lean zealot Nov 16, 2024, 11:41 PM

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Take your time

dense sequoia Nov 16, 2024, 11:42 PM

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of course

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 12:05 AM

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rebooting wont unload

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7:18 PM
Print already paused
7:18 PM
HUB NOT CLEAR TRYING TO LOAD LEG1

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 12:19 AM

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hmmm

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 12:22 AM

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going to reboot again

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Is there a reaso nthat the Unload doesn't work

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i have to reboot to get it to unload

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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I believe BT_TOOL_UNLOAD won't work until it thinks it's loaded, however a restart will try to clear all sensors

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 12:25 AM

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gotcha

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now itsd not making to the hub

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didnt touch anything

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Im sure you have other things to do. Not going to bother you with this tonight

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 12:32 AM

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mmm

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Not making it to the hub, or not triggering the switch?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 12:33 AM

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hub

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R  _____     ____
E /      \  |  o |
A |       |/ ___/
D |_________/
Y |_|_| |_|_|
7:33 PM
LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
7:33 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
7:33 PM
LEG2 LOCKED AND LOADED
7:33 PM
LEG1 NOT READY FAILED TO RELOAD, CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER```

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error i just got

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 12:34 AM

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probably means trigger is triggered but extruder is not loaded

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 12:34 AM

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Leg1 is ejected and not at the extruder switch

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Yep

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 12:38 AM

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WEll i try leg 2 since leg 1 is hosed

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Same issue

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lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 12:44 AM

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Can you get a video of the full change up to that point?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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whatcha mean full change

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Video from the moment you hit T1 or whichever lane, to that point

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 12:45 AM

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I can try

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Won't let me upload

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Says too big

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 12:59 AM

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Okay, well

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It looks like you don't have the right bowden length set

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:00 AM

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mighty have a wqork around

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 1:00 AM

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Ah okay

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:03 AM

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were do I set that at

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 1:04 AM

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afc_bowden_length in AFC.cfg

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:05 AM

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found it

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940 ..so ill add 180m

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what i measured

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:26 AM

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azure steppe snappy is broken in main, I am currently fixing it in DEV

is there a ETA for Snappy ?

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 1:26 AM

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It's fixed in DEV now

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:26 AM

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azure steppe It's fixed in DEV now

is there a link

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 1:27 AM

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😬

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side quest alert

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 1:28 AM

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I would wait until it goes pushed to main

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:28 AM

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ok Sorry !

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Well i have time anyway.. leg 1/2 was working but now not So ill take hem aprart to see if i see anything

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https://tenor.com/view/music-festival-music-festival-party-concert-gif-8282762053370811160

Tenor

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finaly got it too the tool head

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 1:42 AM

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WHOO

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:42 AM

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im think i might print a cube to make sure it prints

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at least I can print one color

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now i need to look up orca slicer settings

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am I stil lable to use better start macro with box turtle

lucid acorn Nov 17, 2024, 1:45 AM

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Good place to start. My first print was just 2 first layers from different lanes. Then went to 4 first layers. Then sent the print

lucid acorn Nov 17, 2024, 1:45 AM

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dense sequoia am I stil lable to use better start macro with box turtle

Should be able to, just need to add a little to it

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 1:49 AM

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Check out https://discord.com/channels/1229586267671629945/1300558899572904090 for link to the github for slicer settings

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But your almost there

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:51 AM

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found it

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 4:40 AM

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T[next_extruder]

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 4:43 AM

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did you set up multi extruder

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in printer settings

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 4:44 AM

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i found the issue ,,,

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put in wrong spot in orca ...

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See if i can at least get 1 color to print

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M140 S0
print_start EXTRUDER=[first_layer_temperature] BED=[first_layer_bed_temperature] CHAMBER=[chamber_temperature] CHAMBERMIN=50
PRINT_MIN={first_layer_print_min[0]},{first_layer_print_min[1]} PRINT_MAX={first_layer_print_max[0]},{first_layer_print_max[1]} TOOL={initial_tool}```

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chanber extruder/chamber no longer heating up

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i just added the Print_MiN line

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 1:19 PM

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post your updated config.zip and the gcode file you are trying to print

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:19 PM

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trying 1st print single color chamber no longer heating up or extruder heating up. Using better start macro. Just added the gcode start line in git hub into orcaslicer
did I do that wrong

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 1:20 PM

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also the print_start is all on one line

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(PRITN_MIN/PRINT_MAX/TOOL are not on separate lines)

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:20 PM

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M104 S0 ; Stops OrcaSlicer from sending temp waits separately
M140 S0
print_start EXTRUDER=[first_layer_temperature] BED=[first_layer_bed_temperature] CHAMBER=[chamber_temperature] CHAMBERMIN=50
PRINT_MIN={first_layer_print_min[0]},{first_layer_print_min[1]} PRINT_MAX={first_layer_print_max[0]},{first_layer_print_max[1]} TOOL={initial_tool}

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;BEFORE_LAYER_CHANGE
;[layer_z]
G92 E0

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📎 Tiny_Inline_Filament_Sensor_V1_2_ASA_12m27s.gcode

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BTW .. Im using the better print start macro from jontek

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 1:34 PM

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that's good

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don't forget teh config.zip

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print_start EXTRUDER=260 BED=105 CHAMBER=0 CHAMBERMIN=50
PRINT_MIN=166.884,165.156 PRINT_MAX=183.052,184.755 TOOL=0

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you have these on two lines

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it needs to be on one

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(that won't cause your issue though)

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:36 PM

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📎 config-20241116-181851.zip

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 1:38 PM

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I don't see why this should not work

in the interim you can just remove those M140/M104 l.ines in your starting gcode and your chamber should heat up again

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:40 PM

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ok let me give it a try

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Still the same no extruder heating and chamber

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just the bed

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 1:43 PM

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so the bed may heat up first...

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before hte extruder...

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wait for bed to get to target

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 1:44 PM

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bed already at targeet

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 1:44 PM

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@lean zealot wake up and do your magic here 🙂

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Buuuut sleeep

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I’ll be at my pc in a few for a closer look

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 2:56 PM

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👍

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 3:09 PM

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Alright, lemme download these configs and compare what you had before

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Okay, print_start looks okay, did you make changes in Orca to your start gcode other than adding the tool?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:17 PM

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No

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 3:18 PM

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What does your start and tool change gcode look like?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:19 PM

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lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 3:19 PM

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Okay, that's right

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:19 PM

#

#

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klipper screen after hitting print

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chamber used to go to 70 then extuder was heating up at same time

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now just stays off

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 3:27 PM

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If the bed reaches temp does it kick on the other heaters?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:27 PM

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nope

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its used too. only thing that changed was the line added in orcaslicer for the BT

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Im wondering if something in the Jontek print macro in the printer cfg need to be changed

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but im not a program coder

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 3:34 PM

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I'm not seeing anything in particular. Is the "Heater Chamber" an actual chamber heater?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:34 PM

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no its just a fan

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I used to have a PTC Heater but removed it cause it went bad

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and not really allowed to talk about that in the voron world

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😛

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 3:38 PM

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Okay, what I see in the start macro is that it only kicks on everything if the bed is already higher than either your set temp, or 90, otherwise it heats and waits 5 minutes.

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:39 PM

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yep

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if I comment all the turtle everything works normal

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other V2 is setup the same way

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 3:40 PM

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What do you mean? If you disable all the turtle stuff?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:40 PM

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yes

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chose wrong word to use ..sorry

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 3:42 PM

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Remove the ; after chambermin

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:43 PM

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spark compass Remove the ; after chambermin

tried that too already

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print_start EXTRUDER=[first_layer_temperature] BED=[first_layer_bed_temperature] CHAMBER=[chamber_temperature] CHAMBERMIN=50 PRINT_MIN={first_layer_print_min[0]},{first_layer_print_min[1]} PRINT_MAX={first_layer_print_max[0]},{first_layer_print_max[1]} TOOL={initial_tool}

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all one line

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 3:46 PM

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Really to start as long as you have the T[next_extruder] in the tool change you can take the initial tool off the print_start. It will just run the T command for the first tool after print_start completes.

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:48 PM

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TOOL={initial_tool} take this off ?

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 3:52 PM

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What did you add that seems to break the print_start? The min max and tool?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 3:55 PM

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PRINT_START EXTRUDER=[nozzle_temperature_initial_layer] BED=[bed_temperature_initial_layer_single] Chamber=[chamber_temperature] PRINT_MIN={first_layer_print_min[0]},{first_layer_print_min[1]} PRINT_MAX={first_layer_print_max[0]},{first_layer_print_max[1]} TOOL={initial_tool}

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M140 S0
print_start EXTRUDER=[first_layer_temperature] BED=[first_layer_bed_temperature] CHAMBER=[chamber_temperature]```

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what I had before

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plus the chambermin=50

cyan shuttle Nov 17, 2024, 4:01 PM

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If your old routine worked just add TOOL={initial_tool} at the end of it and see if it works.

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 4:02 PM

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ok

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il ltry that

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 4:03 PM

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you can take the min and max off also just run your original print_start and ill look over your macros

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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cyan shuttle If your old routine worked just add TOOL={initial_tool} at the end of it and see...

didnt like that at all

cyan shuttle Nov 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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Error?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 4:09 PM

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Malformed command 'print_start EXTRUDER=260 BED=105 CHAMBER=0 CHAMBERMIN= 50 TOOL=0'

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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looks like an extra space before tool

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 4:12 PM

#

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have to run out for a bit ..be back in about an hour or so

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 4:41 PM

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Yea its a strange one for sure

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 5:23 PM

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spark compass looks like an extra space before tool

that shoudln't matter tho

cyan shuttle Nov 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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Its funny about that stuff. If you seperate those params by line it breaks it too.

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 5:32 PM

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yes I'd expect that.

zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 5:45 PM

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My first print failed as i had the extrude length error which I have now changed. However, the BT only started to move the filament half way through the first purge line. These are the last two sections of my start print macro, do I need to change stuff when using the BT? Thanks

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 5:48 PM

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zenith lotus My first print failed as i had the extrude length error which I have now changed...

Did you pass in the tool number in your print start macro and then call a T(x) before your purge line

zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 5:48 PM

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azure steppe Did you pass in the tool number in your print start macro and then call a T(x) b...

no

zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 5:49 PM

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azure steppe Did you pass in the tool number in your print start macro and then call a T(x) b...

Is there reference for this somewhere?

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 5:50 PM

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This line that I am point to

lucid acorn Nov 17, 2024, 5:50 PM

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zenith lotus Is there reference for this somewhere?

Here’s an example from my set up #1276754953226027091 message

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 5:51 PM

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zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 5:52 PM

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lucid acorn Here’s an example from my set up https://discord.com/channels/122958626767162994...

thanks

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 5:52 PM

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those two arrows are the important ones, just need somewhere in your print_start

zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 5:54 PM

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azure steppe those two arrows are the important ones, just need somewhere in your print_start

I think I get it, this line just uses the first colour chosen by the slicer for purge

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 5:54 PM

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Well just whats currently loaded until there is a T(x) call in your files gcode

zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 5:56 PM

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azure steppe Well just whats currently loaded until there is a T(x) call in your files gcode

Thanks again jimmyjon711 you are a real star and will definitely go to heaven 🙂
I will give it a go

zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 5:58 PM

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azure steppe Well just whats currently loaded until there is a T(x) call in your files gcode

Is it best practise to pre load a spool or just let the BT do its thing?

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 5:59 PM

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I just let BT do its thing and just do more skirt loops if I am not using a prime tower to make sure the last color is gone

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It works well, now if I change from PLA to ABS or vise versa I manually do the change

zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 6:01 PM

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azure steppe I just let BT do its thing and just do more skirt loops if I am not using a prim...

Thanks again, I am being called for food so will try later

zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 7:06 PM

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azure steppe I just let BT do its thing and just do more skirt loops if I am not using a prim...

Hi again, I inserted T{target_init_tool} into the printer start macro but klipper did not seem to enjoy it and the purge started without plastic. ? I have since had an issue with the lane 2 extruder not getting passed the hub, it did on the first test, I will get back when I have resolved this. Maybe the hub switch.

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 7:08 PM

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Looks like its calling macro T which is not valid it should be T(number), you passing in your starting tool correctly from your slicer code?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 7:34 PM

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📎 message.txt

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here is my pring start macro

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:02 PM

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after hitting print bed heats up and that is all

zenith lotus Nov 17, 2024, 8:03 PM

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azure steppe Looks like its calling macro T which is not valid it should be T(number), you pa...

I think so, I will review. Does this mean I will have to input the tool number everytime? ATM I keep getting this error....."LEG1 NOT READY PAST HUB, CHECK FILAMENT PATH" will this be to do with the buffer? Both the hub switch & the tool start switch seem to be working correctly. If I manually use the extruder it will pass the hub, I suppose I can isolate the buffer to test.

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 8:04 PM

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dense sequoia after hitting print bed heats up and that is all

Revert to your working startup g-code then

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:05 PM

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lean zealot Revert to your working startup g-code then

I would have to remove all the turtle stuff then

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Comment out

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 8:05 PM

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no just put the print start back the way it was with out the TOOL

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:06 PM

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just did that

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 8:06 PM

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and still sitting on bed heat for more then 5 mins?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:06 PM

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yep

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 8:06 PM

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whats the console say

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:06 PM

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let me change profiles

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spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 8:15 PM

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your passing chambermin now so its not gonna do anything till the chamber is at that temp

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try setting chambermin to 0 and see if everything else starts going

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:17 PM

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Ill try 0

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ok that worked.. nozzle heating to 150 now

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 8:20 PM

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k it will do your normal print start with the purge even though there isnt anything loaded then it should load the lane

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:21 PM

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but I had it set for the print job to wait until chamber was at 50c before printing

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but lets see what happens

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 8:22 PM

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ya thats why it was just sitting on the bed temp and nothing else. It was waiting for them chamber to get to 50 before heating the nozzle

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:25 PM

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I Agree

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:43 PM

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dang timer to close

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 8:44 PM

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did it load and was printing?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:44 PM

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No qgl

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 8:46 PM

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try again

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those can be transient, i had a few TTC at the start and then not again

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:47 PM

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yep trying now

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selected print... but just noticed there is nl filament at the tool head

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and just got the TTC again

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 8:50 PM

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wow so many messages lol

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:51 PM

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Ok last message then

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 8:51 PM

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nooooo, you're so close

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:51 PM

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wow so many messages lol

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no not close Belial

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 8:52 PM

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But you are!

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Can you upload klippy.log?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:55 PM

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📎 klippy_6.log

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 8:57 PM

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looks like a trsync timeout. Open the klipper/klippy/mcu.py and change these values to this

TRSYNC_TIMEOUT = 0.05
TRSYNC_SINGLE_MCU_TIMEOUT = 0.50

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 8:58 PM

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its already set

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But I will be glad to double check it

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spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 9:05 PM

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TRSYNC_SINGLE_MCU_TIMEOUT should be 0.5

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:07 PM

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👍

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 9:07 PM

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try that and send it again and see what happens

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:11 PM

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have to get 4 new rolls Im going to have to rewind all these rolls they loose now

azure steppe Nov 17, 2024, 9:20 PM

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spark compass looks like a trsync timeout. Open the klipper/klippy/mcu.py and change these val...

@ivory stone I forgot about updating this you may need to do this in your config as well

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 9:25 PM

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dense sequoia Ok last message then

yeah don't stop. Iwas just looking at all the new stuff lol.

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:27 PM

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ok question I loaded a model sliced but tool head has no filament at the tool head will it load it before print job starts or am I missing something

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 9:28 PM

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correct it will run your print start then load the first tool then print

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:29 PM

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ok I just loaded 4 pla roll since the ASA's will have to re-wind

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Dang Im determined to get this

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 9:30 PM

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you'll get it. final stages now

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:30 PM

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azure steppe <@278565919586779137> I forgot about updating this you may need to do this in yo...

do i need to ssh for this?c

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cant see it in fluidd

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 9:30 PM

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ivory stone do i need to ssh for this?c

yes

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:30 PM

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this was more complicated then printing a RC 1/8th scale and building it

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but that is just me

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 9:31 PM

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once you get this one running i bet you could whip the second one out in no time

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:31 PM

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I have enough printed parts now

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:33 PM

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mine was set as 0.025 and then 0.25

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change to 0.05 and 0.5 then?

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 9:33 PM

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set them to 0.05 and 0.5

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:33 PM

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aight

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gonna attempt a 4 colour serial now lol

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fingers crossed

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just sad i missed bt-007 as went out

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 9:35 PM

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keep at it your close

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:36 PM

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I might try today too if I can get on print today

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 9:36 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-you-can-do-it-encourage-do-it-gif-14006408

Tenor

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:37 PM

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TTC again

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:37 PM

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ivory stone just sad i missed bt-007 as went out

how I felt as I was working towards BT-005 so I understand

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:37 PM

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spark compass keep at it your close

yeah, ive just either had timeouts, sometimes not relating to BT even i think, and then the weird doesnt do long move or stalls..... like.... if it wasnt for that itd be fine

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:37 PM

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what are your SBCs you are using to run?

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:37 PM

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hidden plank how I felt as I was working towards BT-005 so I understand

lol i wanted it so i could name myself Agent BT-007

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:37 PM

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hidden plank what are your SBCs you are using to run?

SBCs?

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:38 PM

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ivory stone lol i wanted it so i could name myself Agent BT-007

... yeah, i had the same thought 😄

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:38 PM

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ivory stone SBCs?

small board computer ... like a raspberry pi

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as the error indicates it can often mean an overloaded host computer or mcu ... cb1s have it a lot

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have seen people swap out a cb1 for a cm4/pi4 and all their ttc errors go away

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:39 PM

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hidden plank small board computer ... like a raspberry pi

Yeah usuage sits reallyyyyyyyy low

its a modified mks pi

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https://www.digikey.com/htmldatasheets/production/1376545/0/0/1/stm32f401x-b-c-datasheet.html

STM32F401xB,C Datasheet by STMicroelectronics | Digi-Key Electronics

View STM32F401xB,C Datasheet by STMicroelectronics and other related components here.

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STM32F402

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 9:39 PM

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yeah CB1 is kinda hot garbage, definitely not worth lol

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:39 PM

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that's your mcu tho not the host computer

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yeah?

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like, what is klipper running on

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:39 PM

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ivory stone https://www.digikey.com/htmldatasheets/production/1376545/0/0/1/stm32f401x-b-c-d...

im not sure this is accurate though

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:39 PM

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hidden plank like, what is klipper running on

stm

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:40 PM

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'klippy'

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you ssh to an stm32?

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:40 PM

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red is the printer main board, rp2040 is the toolhead board afaik

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and ofc mcu afc, is the afc

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:40 PM

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perhaps i'm not being clear

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those are hte mcus

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klipper doesn't run directly on the mcu like marlin does

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there's a host computer

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:41 PM

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mks pi?

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:41 PM

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i guess so

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 9:41 PM

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yeah I wasn't sure how to find out what his is

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:41 PM

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the board is a modified mks pi WITH a onboard stm

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 9:41 PM

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we were talking about it last night

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:41 PM

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i see

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:41 PM

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so its a mks pi, with a onboard stm basically

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:41 PM

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that's what i was looking at/for

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same cpu as a CB1 basically

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Cortex A53

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pi4 uses a cortex a72

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 9:42 PM

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yeah I have a feeling it's not enough.

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:42 PM

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hmmm, i mean all my loads sit really lower

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and system memory around 36-40%

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:42 PM

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you could try doing things like reducing your microsteps, turning off any webcams

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i get it, i do

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 9:43 PM

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He needs to run a pi4 or something on top of his current one but I'm not sure how to do that

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:43 PM

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i'm just relaying what i have seen before as a potential cause

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:43 PM

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fair

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my BT is down to 8 microsteps, my x and y are 16 and my z is 128

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thats default values

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:43 PM

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what wait

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128 for z seems madness

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:43 PM

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SHRUG thats what it is default

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:43 PM

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try changing that to 32

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 9:43 PM

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z should be one of the lower ones lol

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:43 PM

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my z are 32

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:44 PM

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frank forge z should be one of the lower ones lol

maybe its due to the fact it uses the bed to auto home and auto Z etc?

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:44 PM

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so does my v2

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and trident and those are at 32

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:44 PM

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ah

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:44 PM

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you could always try it and if it doesn' thcange anything, swap it back

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:44 PM

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alright, yeah i can give it a shot

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qidi uses the nozzle to set the z offset

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 9:45 PM

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https://canbus.esoterical.online/troubleshooting/timer_too_close.html

Esoterical’s CANBus Guide

Timer Too Close

A guide for setting up CANBus hardware on 3D printers

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:45 PM

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automatically

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:45 PM

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Using tapv2 for my z offset

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 9:45 PM

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same

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does the Q1 run canbus?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:46 PM

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Dam ttc again

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:46 PM

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frank forge does the Q1 run canbus?

it does to the toolhead yeah

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afc is over usb

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 9:48 PM

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wonder if you can tell the onboard computer to shut up and just connect a PI to usb to control the stock MCU

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:48 PM

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shrugging

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:55 PM

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not sure what else to do

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ttc 3rd time in a row

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maybe switch to a pi5

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 9:58 PM

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dense sequoia maybe switch to a pi5

you got a pi4 and still having issues lmfao?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 9:58 PM

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yep

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pi 4 8g

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p5 will have more power

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 10:00 PM

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pi5 won't solve that imo

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:00 PM

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i changed the tsynch

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haven't had a ttc in a long while

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 10:01 PM

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i got a pi 4 4gb lol..... i aint liking the sound of this if you still got issues 🤣

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:01 PM

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just after putting the TN2

lean zealot Nov 17, 2024, 10:01 PM

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Are you running cameras as well?

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:02 PM

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only have 3do nozzle cam and TN2 ..so I juts turned off the 3do Nozzle cam

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only 1 cam

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 10:02 PM

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lean zealot Are you running cameras as well?

Ive got a camera too 🫡

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Only one, runs at like 5 fps…. Though…. 1080p

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:03 PM

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mine 30fps/ 1080p

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 10:03 PM

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i set mine to 5 at idle, and 15 when focused

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 10:03 PM

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i'd turn off any cameras if you can

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just to give maximum chance of success

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:04 PM

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I hate to turn it off since I used it for remote monitoring

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 10:04 PM

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i kinda need to be able to watch it sadly

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else i gotta stand there the entire time

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theres this weird thing where if it fails to load or something, it raises my printbed, up into the purge bucket/wiper thing (since my toolhead is in its park position over the bucket)

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:05 PM

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turning off cam didnt matter

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still TTC

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 10:05 PM

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and i cant pinpoint why its doing or what macro, since its not my pause macro

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:05 PM

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guess no printing today

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 10:06 PM

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mines printing so ill see if these changes fix it for me

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:07 PM

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good luck .. i think I have wasted enough time today

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 10:08 PM

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i wasted enough earlier today and last night tbh..... so 🤞 this print actually..... completes

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:08 PM

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I can t even get a print to start

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i think im done for today

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Ill use the X1c for now to get some stuff printed

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and its time for a drink anyway

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😀

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coffee

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:47 PM

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ivory stone mines printing so ill see if these changes fix it for me

any luck ?

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 10:48 PM

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nah lane 4 again

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no other issues though

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:56 PM

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Im really starting to hate TTC

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might switch BT to other V2

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 10:58 PM

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it is a hateful error

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:58 PM

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maybe something else is going on with this printer

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 10:58 PM

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not unique to BT

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 10:58 PM

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its a crappy error that give no information

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 10:58 PM

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I understand that

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im thinking soemthing wrong with this printer

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I didnt have any TTC until this

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maybe there should be soemthing developed

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 11:00 PM

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might have been straw that broke camel's back with canbus

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have you sent over the canbus debug script output before?

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https://canbus.esoterical.online/troubleshooting/debugging/README.html

Esoterical’s CANBus Guide

Debug Script

A guide for setting up CANBus hardware on 3D printers

ivory stone Nov 17, 2024, 11:04 PM

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dense sequoia might switch BT to other V2

the trsync changes seem to have done it for me so far so.... idk what else could try thats a similiar change

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 11:05 PM

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hidden plank might have been straw that broke camel's back with canbus

I have ran it before

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TTC again Im done for tonight

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maybe the pi4 is crapping out

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Dont know

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 11:22 PM

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dense sequoia I have ran it before

I mean with the extra can device

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when you have sanity for a moment please run the script above and send output here

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 11:23 PM

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📎 message.txt

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im about to lose my sanity

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 11:27 PM

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everything i would expect to see i see above

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so this is one of those canbus sucks times :/

spark compass Nov 17, 2024, 11:28 PM

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Has he ohm checked the can bus to make sure it’s 60?

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 11:30 PM

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don't think so but it'd be good to check wiring andc termination setups

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 11:32 PM

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maybe time to get rid of canbus and get anothe NHSB

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 11:37 PM

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you can run the AFC lite in USB mode.

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(No pun intended))

dense sequoia Nov 17, 2024, 11:42 PM

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out of usb ports

frank forge Nov 17, 2024, 11:54 PM

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dense sequoia TTC again Im done for tonight

I just wanted to clarify that my comment earlier was in no way about you talking to much or anything, was just coming in to see the progress being done and happy to see you working on it. Keep at it! In this game we always have little things in our builds that like to test our limits, that's how we grow and get better at these things keep at it 🙂

hidden plank Nov 17, 2024, 11:59 PM

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dense sequoia out of usb ports

i too ran out recnetly - am using a usb hub

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plugged into rear keystone outlet and then have box turtle and tn2 plugged into that.

lean zealot Nov 18, 2024, 12:00 AM

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I have a cheap 4 port hub underneath mine as well

frank forge Nov 18, 2024, 12:00 AM

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yeah I need to do something for mine too lol

dense sequoia Nov 18, 2024, 12:00 AM

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frank forge I just wanted to clarify that my comment earlier was in no way about you talking...

No its all good ... i beginning to think I have reached my limit or capability of this stuff ...I mean 1 step forward 20 backwards

frank forge Nov 18, 2024, 12:00 AM

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that's how it is sometimes, but you can do it don't give up.

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gotta change your perspective and believe you can finish it lol

dense sequoia Nov 18, 2024, 12:02 AM

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my perspective was yea ii can do this for sure.

lean zealot Nov 18, 2024, 12:02 AM

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You absolutely still can

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Hardware wise everything is working

frank forge Nov 18, 2024, 12:02 AM

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if you built a voron you can build this

dense sequoia Nov 18, 2024, 12:03 AM

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1st voron was a struggle ..2nd voron was easy

frank forge Nov 18, 2024, 12:03 AM

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so he's just having software issues now @lean zealot ?

lean zealot Nov 18, 2024, 12:03 AM

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Correct

frank forge Nov 18, 2024, 12:03 AM

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the timing too close thing

lean zealot Nov 18, 2024, 12:03 AM

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Yep

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Unfortunately, I'm no help there

dense sequoia Nov 18, 2024, 12:03 AM

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like 10 of them today

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zerro in the last 6 months

frank forge Nov 18, 2024, 12:04 AM

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same I had 0 of that, my printer said it once today but a reboot and it never came back lol

dense sequoia Nov 18, 2024, 12:04 AM

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now leg1 having issues again

frank forge Nov 18, 2024, 12:04 AM

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what kind of issues?

dense sequoia Nov 18, 2024, 12:05 AM

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LEG1 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER

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flaky

frank forge Nov 18, 2024, 12:05 AM

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hmm

dense sequoia Nov 18, 2024, 12:07 AM

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after rebooting its kicking the filament away from extruder

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triggering the error

spark compass Nov 18, 2024, 12:08 AM

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delete the afc.var possibly still thinks something is loaded from the ttl crash

dense sequoia Nov 18, 2024, 12:08 AM

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i have to push it back in abut 1-2mm

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ok

#Disaster1234

Position to park the toolhead

Height to raise Z when moving to park. Leave 0 to disable

If you want z_hop during toolchanges please set the value in the AFC.cfg