#Disaster1234
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So, all 4 rolls are not loaded and have been ejected from the turtle, correct?
It’s ejecting on prep because the hub switch is true. It needs to be reversed.
Yeah, I thought I saw hub in there originally then missed it again.
switch_pin: ^AFC:HUB
pause_on_runout: False```
Add ! after the ^ to reverse it
^!AFC:HUB
switch_pin: ^!AFC:HUB
pause_on_runout: False```
got it
I would start with all lanes unloaded and run that query and make sure everything is false. If something is true the pin needs to be swapped.
Yep
8:57 PM
Unknown command:"SET_SERVO"
8:57 PM
R _____ ____
E / \ | o |
A | |/ ___/
D |_________/
Y |_|_| |_|_|
8:57 PM
LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
8:57 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
8:57 PM
LEG2 LOCKED AND LOADED
8:57 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED
8:57 PM
Box_Turtle Turtle_1 Prepping lanes```
I have snappy signal to RGB1 Middle pin for signal
Is that with loaded spools or empty?
Very nice. Go through and get all the positions for your macros like park and brush if you have it. Then put a rough estimate in for the Bowden length and get it calibrated. Then run T0 - T3 to test the color change. Then serial time.

Yes, you will need to adjust it as appropriate for your printer.
park/brush all configed
Nice, now home heat and check loading
Is the hub showing in your mainsail? And do you have a hub cutter?
So it is showing filament at the hub. This is with nothing loaded right now right?
now I cant get anything to work Just rebooted
Ill open a new software help tomorrow its broke
Is it crashing klipper?
Unknown command:"SET_SERVO"
10:13 PM
R _____ ____
E / \ | o |
A | |/ ___/
D |_________/
Y |_|_| |_|_|
10:13 PM
LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:13 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:13 PM
LEG2 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:13 PM
LEG1 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:13 PM
Box_Turtle Turtle_1 Prepping lanes```
did you define your servo pin? It's not in the configs normally.
where do i define that Ihave the signal pin RGB1 middle pin I was looking for it
ok did that on pe14 now says ready
Without it loaded, are you still seeing detected on hub though?
Ok. Perfect. Heat the end and just hit T0 to see it go through a load, if you have set all your distances.
let me give that a try
LEG1 NOT READY PAST HUB, CHECK FILAMENT PATH
10:23 PM
LEG1 NOT READY PAST HUB, CHECK FILAMENT PATH
||=====||==>--||-----||
TRG LOAD HUB TOOL```
Nothing is loaded past the extruders right now?
correct
What does your AFC.var say right now?
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"index": 1,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": "",
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": false }, "leg2": { "index": 2, "material": "", "spool_id": "", "color": "", "tool_loaded": false, "hub_loaded": false }, "leg3": { "index": 3, "material": "", "spool_id": "", "color": "", "tool_loaded": false, "hub_loaded": false }, "leg4": { "index": 4, "material": "", "spool_id": "", "color": "", "tool_loaded": false, "hub_loaded": false } } }
And your hub still says empty on Mainsail?
Yes
When it goes to load, is it stalling out trying to get through the hub cutter?
possible
With it just sitting there, pop the bowden off the cutter and pass a filament through from the back. It should pass through easily and trigger the hub sensor.
endstop query ?
http://"ip_address"/printer/objects/query?AFC
I don't think hub loaded should be true.
Looking for that
Is the hub sensor flickering from empty to loaded off and on with nothing going on?
Hub Solid green
Can also remove bowden from back of the turtle and push a piece of filament backwards to make sure it's triggering as expected
We just did that. Seems to be.
filament from the back of hub in right now Ill move it back n forth
Can you hear the switch triggering and then untriggering?
Does it change state in software?
Hub is shown on your dashboard of Klipper, so you should see it changing states
it does
Okay, when unloaded it shows empty, and when you have the filament in it, it shows loaded?
correct
So your hub is functioning
yes
He goes to load tool 0 and it says the hub is triggered before loading.
yes
What is Encoder Sensor?
detected
Where is that?
No, what's it physically for?
Btt Smart sensor after the extruders
That... probably shouldn't be in line ngl
I would suggest simplifying this down as much as possible to start with
which ones?
only have one the BTt smart Sensor
You can
You have one at the extruder right?
If it is used for filament runout detection, it'll interfere with operation of the turtle anyways
toolhead, I mean.
Should do a delete on AFC.var and firmware restart?
the whole thing ?
We can try. MAKE SURE ALL LANES ARE UNLOADED
ok
Deleting AFC.var resets it to a default state where it expects all lanes to be unloaded
I hit the uload filamanet maro
After you delete the file, it will create a new one on reboot.
deleted ..rebooting now
👍
Look at you stealing all the BBT serials Belial! Lol.
Yeah, I'm almost ready for a release version.
Im trying to get one but I might be out of luck
You got this
You're close though.
I really dedicated to get this working
How's it all look after the firmware restart?
rebooting still
Before you reload your lanes, remove filament completely, I want to see your switch statuses
Sorry, from the link from earlier
dashboard
the query
I think you commented out the wrong sensor. It's still showing encoder sensor but can't find toolhead sensor.
And with no filament, all the load and prep should be reading false.
Yep, we still have an invalid state if all your lanes are unloaded
switch_pin: PG12
pause_on_runout: False
insert_gcode:
M117 Insert Detected
runout_gcode:
#M117 Runout Detected
#LCDRGB R=1 G=0 B=0 # Turn LCD red
#BEEP I=12```
pg12 is my BTT smart Sensor pin
I have no other filament runout sensors
And that is right before the toolhead?
That's going to be a slow load, but it should in theory work
I printe the inline filament sensor ...waiting on MR 63 bearing s
That sensor has 2 pins though, doesn't it? One for the encoder and one for the filament sensor.
Which one did you print?
Yes
You should be able to build that
I have the TN
I use the filatector
yes
I can print it prettquick
Yeah, go to that and put it as close to the toolhead as you can
I'm gonna have to go to bed here, but will be free tomorrow to help where I can
I think that will help. As the encoder is triggered, so it might be throwing things off.
Tomorrow will be your DAY!!!
built
Lol. Well get that in and comment out the other crap.
I'm trying to get this toolhead put together and wired tonight. Probably not gonna happen. Lol.
ok have new filament sensor inline right above the toolhead
see wha thappens
LEG1 NOT READY PAST HUB, CHECK FILAMENT PATH
12:49 AM
LEG1 NOT READY PAST HUB, CHECK FILAMENT PATH
||=====||==>--||-----||
TRG LOAD HUB TOOL```
same
Morning, we can get back to this whenever you’re around
I'll be available tonight at work until 4pm
I have the filadector installed right on top of the toolhead connected to gpio29 of the sb2040
Cool. 4pm Eastern time? If so, that’s when I’ll be home and be much more free to help
Yes est time
Perfect, I’ll be home right around then
O👍
Checking in from work now. I think you will be good to go once Belial figures it out. Coding looks Greek to me, but give me a screwdriver and I'm good to go! Lol.
Be home in about 20 min
Closing up shop! F-this! I'm heading home too! Lol.
same
Just got here firing up printer
leg1 is spinning back wards
it stopped
reboot back to it again probaly due to the filadector Im thinking
Just turning my pc on and changing clothes, give me a few more minutes and you’ll have 50% of my attention lol
Okay
So, what is current state of everything
Filament loaded in lanes?
yes
all good
no rush
{
"result": {
"eventtime": 210.624189022,
"status": {
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": true,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
}
}
}
}
}
Are the extruders doing anything?
Okay, so all lanes are now empty?
yes
Okay, let's leave them empty and test your trigger switches
What is current status
#1 spinning back wards
{
"result": {
"eventtime": 146.072114246,
"status": {
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": true,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
}
}
}
}
}
Okay, so no filament in it all lanes indicate that there still is
continue spin
It thinks the hub is loaded
Can you remove bowden from the back of the unit and put a piece of filament in from the back and see if it changes state?
Okay, your hub switch is reversed
done
What's the hub status?
?
This status set for the others
Also, if you do `before and after your text it formats it
Okay, cool
Just a tip for the other statuses
better
Yeah, only do it for the big blocks it'll help make it readable
👍
Unknown command:"SET_SERVO"
5:41 PM
R _____ ____
E / \ | o |
A | |/ ___/
D |_________/
Y |_|_| |_|_|
5:41 PM
LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
5:41 PM
LEG3 LOCKED AND LOADED
5:41 PM
LEG2 LOCKED AND LOADED
5:41 PM
LEG1 NOT READY FAILED TO RESET EXTRUDER```
dashboard
Yeah, it thinks they're all loaded
So, if you put a piece of filament into one of the lanes but not all the way to the extruder, what are the other statuses?
"result": {
"eventtime": 914.796854584,
"status": {
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": false,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
}
}
}
}
}```
with #1 loaded just to the trigger
Strange, nothing seems to be changing state
want a pic of the underneath
Yes please
Okay, everything looks right
Okay, so if we make sure one of the lane's trigger switches aren't depressed what do we get?
none are depressed right now
Does everything from the query link still read true?
"result": {
"eventtime": 1717.724345957,
"status": {
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": false,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
}
}
}
}
}```
with lane 3 trigger not touchine endstop
soldering could have been better for sure
Those switches should still have levers on them
the paddles hit the switches
Can you hear them trip?
yes
Hmm
hold
Just the heads up though, it's intended for them to have the levers still
Do you have a meter you are able to verify, actually?
Yes have a meter
Put it in resistance or trace mode and check across your switch to make sure
Ok hold
Switch touch 0.00
Motors 1/2 are warm
2 of the motors cold
Botton 2 hot
Maybe i should re wire everything or are they cooked
mmm, i don't know if they should be warm
Switch open you should have an O/L
I'm more worried about why we aren't getting any status changes when checking that
Burnt board ?
I don't think so
connectin ground to the signal pin wouldn't do that
Can you unplug one of the lanes triggers and see what we report?
Sure
Still don't like how 2 motors cold and two are hot
"result": {
"eventtime": 55.971933022,
"status": {
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": true,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": false,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
}
}
}
}
}```
What was unplugged? You now have 2 prep lanes as false
hmmm
Check your wiring, but it seems like those specifically are an electrical issue
Unplugging/opening the circuit has changed their state
Nah, board seems to be working fine
I'd suspect bad switches/wiring before the board rn
ill rip it all part
You could make up a little test switch with a JST on the end just to check
Took out board ...want me to close ticket until I get all new wire
I wouldn't say do all new wire, just go through and check it all
This isn't a ticket, just a thread, so leave it open and I'll keep it tracked
I did break one of the trigger switch wires
im have to order some more switches I thought i had more be a few days Im sure
found enough switches heading up to get some more wire to re-do the4 switches
Hub need a arm to oon the switch ?
No
almost back together
question
when hooking up the TN i have the 2 end stops. Which one goes 1st or 2nd
Bottom trailing I take it
Correct
would this be the trailin
just making sure i get the correct pins and direction correct
Until I put in the pfte
If that is similar to TN2, the PTFE should go inside it and it should move freely on it
If not, you may need to adjust print settings on that piece for a good fit.
However, we can ignore that for now and see if we can get the turtle to load filament
Unknown command:"SET_SERVO"
9:28 PM
R _____ ____
E / \ | o |
A | |/ ___/
D |_________/
Y |_|_| |_|_|
9:28 PM
LEG4 CHECK FILAMENT Prep: False - Load: True
9:28 PM
LEG3 CHECK FILAMENT Prep: False - Load: True
9:28 PM
LEG2 CHECK FILAMENT Prep: False - Load: True
9:28 PM
LEG1 CHECK FILAMENT Prep: False - Load: True
9:28 PM
Box_Turtle Turtle_1 Prepping lanes```
hub Empty
Do you have time or do you want to wait
I have some time yet
Okay,
So we have one sensor saying empty now, and the other saying loaded
Can you remove the PTFE from the back of one of your extruders and put a piece of filament in that to check if that changes the load sensor state?
What are all sensor states now?
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": true,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
}```
let me add a roll
Ooop, just a piece in the back of the extruder to trip that sensor
piece already there
What's the status if you remove it?
empty
hub
ok hold
We should see one of the LOAD statuses change on the query page
"eventtime": 734.579220228,
"status": {
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},```
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": false,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
extruder motors 1-2 still warm 3-4 cold
Are you using BTT drivers on an AFC lite?
Uhh
ran the izard and chose afc-lite
One moment, lemme look what was shipped in the kit
You are talking one of Isik's kits, right?
I'm pretty sure they were BTT 2209
One momeny, I have one here
btt2209
I wired all 4 same they are pre-wired
Yes, but they may still be incorrect as to what the BTT driver is
Which steppers? Do you know?
I believe Isik shipped the BOM steppers in the kits
Lemme check one of those hold on
(Yes, I have this stuff sitting in front of me...)
All the parts you need to build a Box Turtle, except printed plastic (or frame, if you select "No Frame") Includes: Part Quantity Note M2x10 Self Tapping Screws 25 Stainless M3x30 BHCS 5 Stainless M3x16 BHCS 5 Stainless M3x6 SHCS 10 Stainless M3x8 SHCS 90 Stainless M3x10 SHCS 20 Stainless M3 Roll-in T-Nut 5 M3 Threade
motor 1 went to motor 1 on the board and so on
Yep
It looks like they should already be pinned AABB
So they should be fine
Let's get the rest of it working then worry about warm steppers lol
So, with filament in vs filament out you don't get a change on the LOAD sensor it looks like
no
Did you check those by chance while you had it apart?
I checked all the wireing
hmm
Yep, that's correct
thend stop st row next to N20 put motor 4 on bottom to top
end stop 3 and so on
middle row 1st is hub
then motor 4 trigger
bottom to top
Yep
That shouldn't matter as we aren't seeing a switch status change
Same with the hubs. 1 at bottom
I mean load.
The re-spoolers would be the same on the right as well. 1 on bottom.
Flip them
ok
Should be Hub 1 2 3 4
ok
all reversed
trigger and load
Unknown command:"SET_SERVO"
10:10 PM
R _____ ____
E / \ | o |
A | |/ ___/
D |_________/
Y |_|_| |_|_|
10:10 PM
LEG4 CHECK FILAMENT Prep: False - Load: True
10:10 PM
LEG3 CHECK FILAMENT Prep: False - Load: True
10:10 PM
LEG2 CHECK FILAMENT Prep: False - Load: True
10:10 PM
LEG1 CHECK FILAMENT Prep: False - Load: True```
Okay, so we need to figure out your LOAD sensors
They should all be reading false right now
paste cfg ?
Yep
Assuming everything is set to AFC Lite, this config looks good other than on line 121 change
pause_on_runout: True
to
pause_on_runout: False
No sensor should pause a print otherwise it'll stop
Also specify the mcu for the switch pin at toolhead.
That as well
You have it as PG12
I'm guessing that's the old BTT Smart Detector
switch_pin: SB2040:gpio29
pause_on_runout: False```
👍
Once the underlying issue is corrected, use the "RESTART"
command to reload the config and restart the host software.
Printer is halted
hmm?
didnt like that
Show this on mainsail
yeah, capitalization matters there lol
yep hit caps by accident
Time to maybe call it quits ?
I klnwo yo uall have better things to do
uhh i mean
i need to go to bed soon, but can give you attention for another 20 minutes or so lol
We need to get your LOAD sensors working correctly otherwise it won't do everything right
It's not like there have been thousands of these built yet! Lol.
Well True
You're a test case whether you like it or not.
Using the multi-meter you were able to test the load sensor?
I haven't tried since re-wiring
It's not probable that all 4 are not working because of wiring though.
Can you check them with a meter to make sure they are functioning correctly?
I'm with that
I can
It's more likely the ball isn't triggering the switch, or the ball is stuck
I can pull extruders off
Pull the rear bowden and test at the extruder.
Yep, if you want to pull them out it might give you more room, but that's up to you
already tesrted the hub one work
Hub is fine, we can ignore it
Ok.
im trying
We're right here with ya lol
giving 100%
Don't feel bad. I re-wired mine twice I think. Lol.
nope not at all
I have the new trigger style coming tomorrow. Hopefully those are less finicky.
still have to see about the motors
The N20's?
no the extruder motors
Eh, low priority lol
Oh. You should be good.
They're likely in a hold state or are warm from trying to eject a bunch of times
Those LOAD switches not working right now are screwing with the software in a bad way
You as well
When you press switch you mean, if you used outside pins it should be 0 when tested
correct
Okay, now if you put it back in the extruder and do the same test, but do so by inserting a piece of filament to trigger the switch
ok
I'll have to try again tonight
LEG1 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
6:30 AM
LEG1 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
||==>--||----||-----||
TRG LOAD HUB TOOL```
on all 4 now
Sensor statuses?
Same klipper says empty
Not at home I'll have to mess with it some other time.
Might just rip out the extruders and reprint them in the next few days
So a suggestion as it seems like you are having trouble with your switches. It might be a good idea to not include the AFC files but instead setup all your switches as filament sensors so it would be easier to see the status of the sensors to make sure they are all working properly and are configured right.
How would I do that i just use the afc add on automated klipper wizard creating the afc lite
Can just comment out the include line and we can set up the stops
I can probably throw together a quick config when I get home to get them all in as end stops
@cedar lion Be home in about 10min have until 530 to mess with it
@cedar lion Bowling league until 9pm or so
what i just found out is that I checked switched for 1 - 2 same 2 motors are warm nothing happend 0L on meter .. 3 -4 right side. OL also but the motors started turning
Interesting
On a side note, I just got home and will be busy until you leave. I'll get something together while you're away on the stops and we can check things out when you get back
I may be in bed by then, but if I'm up I'll help until I go to bed lol
cool
Yeah, that all looks good
ol on switch with it pushed in
yes
Inserting a piece of filament from the back you can feel the bearing move and hear the switch flip?
You feel resistance but can't hear the switch trigger?
Okay, checking with a meter and filament you can see it trigger?
ol whole time
Your ball bearing is stuck in your printer part and not moving freely
might not be hitting leg
ok ol no fil 0 with fil
okay, that's right
ill have to check all 4
That one is NO...? wat
then also main board ising the 2 left pins
im going mark them
that was one of the warm motors
put back together filament will move at all with any tension on it now
test later tonight or tommorw ..have a good night
I think Im about ready to throw in the white towel on this
can
LEG4 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
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LEG4 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
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LEG3 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
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LEG3 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
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LEG2 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
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LEG2 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
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LEG1 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
10:09 PM
LEG1 NOT READY CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER
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10:08 PM
Box_Turtle Turtle_1 Prepping lanes```
"eventtime": 338.904815705,
"status": {
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": false,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": false,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": false,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": false,
"prep": true,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": false,
"buffer": null,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
}
}
}
}
}```
Okay, LOAD are all in a good state now, PREP aren't.
i keep going in circles
If you load a piece of filament into the trigger of a lane but not all the way into the extruder what do these become?
4 rolls are in trigger now
"result": {
"eventtime": 494.142916261,
"status": {
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": false,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": false,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": false,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": false,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": false,
"buffer": null,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
}
}
}```
Okay, now put a piece of filament into the back of the extruder and trigger one of the switches there
All sensors are currently in a good state
ok let me flip it up
If your sensors on the back of the extruders are working, I have some really good news for you
"eventtime": 702.501400747,
"status": {
"AFC": {
"Turtle_1": {
"leg1": {
"LANE": 1,
"load": false,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg2": {
"LANE": 2,
"load": false,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg3": {
"LANE": 3,
"load": false,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
},
"leg4": {
"LANE": 4,
"load": true,
"prep": false,
"loaded_to_hub": false,
"material": "",
"spool_id": "",
"color": ""
}
},
"system": {
"current_load": null,
"tool_loaded": false,
"hub_loaded": false,
"buffer": null,
"num_units": 1,
"num_lanes": 4
}
```
Yep
doesnt look like it
I see it
Soooo
For the good news
Your stepper directions need reversed
So go ahead and remove that filament and put the PTFE back
Don't load anything yet, let's reverse your stepper direction then you should be able to load filament
1 step at a time
Yep yep
dir pin put ! in front of on all 4 lanes
save and restart
Yep
LEG4 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
10:24 PM
LEG3 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
10:24 PM
LEG2 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
10:24 PM
LEG1 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL```
thats a start
yep
Your left most lane
correct
We have a good load? It take the filament?
didnt do anything yet '
Okay
pushd till it hit trigger
hit extruder
It take it?
nope
uhhh
just sitting
Did you hear the stepper making noise when it hit?
Should be pulses until it's loaded
Uhh
Can you trip each lane's triggers and see if you hear anything?
Possibly, but the steppers are unlikely to be bad
So, try loading 1 while it's pulsating
It should grab the filament and then stop
We may have unneccesarily reversed direction
pulsated I had to push the filament
Yeah, you have to push it all the way to the gears before it grabs
If it doesn't grab when pulsating the stepper is going backwards
well is the 3-4 are possible bad I dont want to waste your time
The driver might have died
Can easily check by moving 3-4 to 1-2 and seeing if it'll move when you trip 1-2
Unknown command:"SET_SERVO"
10:37 PM
R _____ ____
E / \ | o |
A | |/ ___/
D |_________/
Y |_|_| |_|_|
10:37 PM
LEG4 LOCKED AND LOADED
10:37 PM
LEG3 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
10:37 PM
LEG2 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
10:37 PM
LEG1 EMPTY READY FOR SPOOL
10:37 PM
Box_Turtle Turtle_1 Prepping lanes```
Okay
Just to clear this up. When we refer to it 1 is left most lane, in this picture
Unless your pic is reversed
Yep,
Just wanted to clarify we are on the same page there
So, it loaded 4 correctly
4 could be loaded to tool head
Main board on my left #1 is to my left
Yep, that is correct
1 and 2 on the left are prably junk and i have no way ATM to fix them
if thats what you think
Can swap the connects to 3 and 4 with 1 and 2 to see if your steppers move
Just move the motor connectors
Are they plugged in to 1&2 then?
yes
Hmm
Okay, so tripping the leg on 1 3 pulses then, but tripping 3 you get nothing?
only get pulsed on two right motors
Okay
yes
Okay
Not sure if you'd want to buy more steppers to get this running quicky.
I think it may be time to get @frosty ridge involved as for how to proceed with that though.
All 4 drivers are working, but if the steppers aren't that's no good.
yea i dont have the funds ATM will have to wait
Yep, wait to see how he'd like to proceed with that as well.
In the mean time, you do have 2 working lanes that you could adjust lengths and make sure load/unload works
So put the steppers back to the right location and you could do that
1 and 4 and 2 and 3 are similar lengths for hub distance
let me swich them back
2 motors not working correctly even when plugged into the other 2 drivers?
That's what it appears to be
I haven't gone crazy with checking motor resistances or anything yet
But those drivers drive the working motors fine?
Yep, that's what he's saying
Ok. Sorry there are a lot of messages here
Yep, been chasing a lot
I can send replacement motors but I don't have any atm. I have 240 on the way though. I can also refund enough to source them elsewhere, they are the BOM motors, purchased directly from the factory.
Actually, @sterile niche you said you'd be at KB3D open house this weekend, as well, right?
Depending on how you want to proceed with replacement/ refund there, I have a couple of spare BOM motors I can bring you at cost.
rebooting now
So you and xbst can figure out your preferred resolution on that
thats fine
I'll throw em on a controller and make sure they work lol
il ltake the hit
I'll refund you
#1300623043567030292 message
Yeah, I was going to say
Resolve issue with vendor. I'm just offering you a quick solution on getting some
All the sellers on Amazon want 50+% markup on these lol
I bring the turtle
Just let me know the order number
Done. Sorry for this
Crap happens and not everything is always perfect.
As long as @sterile niche is satisfied with the resolution for now, everything will be fine.
Yeah. Another lesson learned, don't trust the factory, test all motors yourself
Gotta love QCing everything after it's been "QCd"
Yes Im fine just would like to play with the turtle
and get the serial
before they run out
😛
I mean, let's play with the 2 working lanes for now that way when it's got all 4 legs it's just hitting print
So if you now load filament into 3 & 4 you should be able to press T2 or T3 and load either one of them and do a swap
Home and heat your hot end
Now would be a good time to make sure that any cut/brush/poop macros are in the right location
If you set positions for poop/kick/brush you can home the printer then just press those macros and it should go there
Make sure those are good, then heat and press T2/T3 and you should load
All 4 of the respoolers move during that startup pulsing, right?
yes
i loaded 2 right filaments
cool
all the way to the extruder
pressed t2
warming up
I didnt do anything with kick
Poop/kick may have an unsafe move location
its at default
pulsating now
: 250, 300, 10
kick
i have a 350 so its fine there
May not be fine for finaly printing, just wanted you to be sure and select safe locations
anywhos
T2 and T3 should load
11:44 PM
LEG3 NOT READY PAST HUB, CHECK FILAMENT PATH
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Extruder below min_extrude_temp, heating to 5 degrees above min
11:42 PM
Tool Change - None -> leg3
11:42 PM
T2
11:41 PM
FAILED TO LOAD, CHECK FILAMENT AT TRIGGER```
back to this again
says empty
i manual put it to the hub slowly
May need to adjust the hub dist value if it didn't make it on it's own. Anyways, now that it's in the hub, hub switch sate to show loaded?
hub says detected
Press T3 again then
is it pulling the filament at all?
hmm
not sure if we have something backwards or what there lol
I unfortunately need to get some sleep, so we can keep going on it tomorrow
I agree
@cedar lion thank you for the time you have taken to help me get this going.
No problem
What makes those motors get hot like that just curious
They’re in a hold state
