ISOMERISM

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ISOMERISM

if (C) is planar how id (D) non planar dono central Carbon sp hybridised

[flint sable]

We aren't considering lone pairs on oxygen, but we do consider the hydrogens on a carbon.

So, even though in both cases the hybridization is the same, in D, the two pairs of hydrogens are in mutually perpendicular planes. In C, there is only one plane in consideration in the first place.

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i am so confused

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oh

but what about this

[feral parrot]

Let p_x orbital of middle carbon makes a pi bond with carbon in d, then only p_y orbital of carbon can make pi cond with the other carbon. Also p-z p-z ki overlapping makes sigma bond between carbons.

Now one CH2 group is in the horizontal (x-z) plane one is in the vertical (y-z)

[flint sable]

Messy diagram, but I hope you get it

[tropic path]

i understand d

but isnt the same with C

[tropic path]

yeh

[flint sable]

We don't care about if the l.p.s are in the same plane or not

[feral parrot]

C wale mein there is no hydrogen or stuff attached to O

[flint sable]

We just consider atoms in plane

[feral parrot]

Only lone pairs.

[tropic path]

could u make a better diagram of C if mine is wrong idk

🥺

[feral parrot]

This is fine ig. (Just draw the lone pairs on oxygen tho)

[tropic path]

but doesnt this indicate ki yeh non planar hai?

arent the blue and red ones in planes perpendicular to each other?

[flint sable]

Yup

And purple is in the plane of the blue orbitals

Oh crap

Wait i made a mistake

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toh fir how is the entire thing in the same plane

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oo

[flint sable]

H, H, C, C, O are in the same plane.

Only the pi bonds and lone pairs are out of plane

And those don't matter.

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how is that

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matlab this is wrong?

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acha

[dense solar]

In allenes, the arrangement becomes perpendicular alternatively per d..b.

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@pulsar blaze down :S

[flint sable]

It's not working again?

Poor Lancelot. He's prob gotten like fifteen pings today

[restive bay]

I'm positive c is non co planar

Oh nvm it is planar somehoe

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atp use their names instead of the @ it still works 😭 these guys have too many pings

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sorry

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+solved @flint sable

sigh

[flint sable]

Lol

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