Atomic structure

[crimson sage]

Is there a reason for this? Does this also apply to other atoms?
eg. Does Boron, having 5 electrons, have 1s < 2s < 2p < 3s = 3p, etc.?

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[fervent gust]

In hydrogen atom the energy is same for all the s p d and f but in others it's different

It's given in ncert

[wet saddle]

Huh is a reason given

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And it doesn't apply on other atoms

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It's not i think but this is mentioned in ncert it's same for all

[wet saddle]

Hmm

Woo another loophole to jump into

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I think it's due to the quantum equation

[wet saddle]

Which one

[hidden dawn]

Monoelectronic species same shell ke orbitals have same energy

Keyword: monoelectronic

So like

H

He+

Na+

Mg2+

Isoelectronic yea

Isoelectronic species ke liye

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Are bhai vo baat nhai hai

[hidden dawn]

Same shell ke orbitals have same energy

[fervent gust]

Individual atom dekhna hai

Agar hydrogen bas ka dekhe to uska same

Lekin agar mai nitrogen ka dekhu usme same nhi hota

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The phi one too long to write

[hidden dawn]

Yea unless it has just 1electron in its outermost shell

This logic of same shell same energy

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Yeah but this concept is not required for this question

[wet saddle]

Shrodoinkers equation

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Idhar sidha ncert se ho jana hai

[hidden dawn]

Nahhh I'm very sure yahi gai

HAI

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The spelling 😂 but yes

[wet saddle]

Probably

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Nhi

Ncert uthao

[hidden dawn]

Bruh when I asked this mujhe to yahi bola tha 😭

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Pg no. 60

Diagram

Niche likha padho

[hidden dawn]

Send photu NCERT neeche dabi padi hogi nikaalne me dikkat hai

Plijjj

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Kardi na flower wali baat ncert bina kuch nhi

Diagram ke niche wala padho

@crimson sage

[hidden dawn]

Bruh to why are they equal?

Ye tu mujhe pata hai that they are equal

Why ka reason likha hai kya?

[fervent gust]

Schrodinger equation

[hidden dawn]

Udhar kidhar

[crimson sage]

why is the p orbital a dumbbell

solve schrodinger equation

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Udhar nhi par ye sab us equation se find out hua hai to reason is vo vaisa hi hai

[crimson sage]

ye kya tomfoolery hai

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Ncert hai

Pg no. 60

[crimson sage]

😭 ok

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😭😭😭

[crimson sage]

it also says

in case of multi electron atoms, orbitals w/ same principal quantum number possess different energies for different azimuthal quantum numbers (l)

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Haa

[crimson sage]

matlab the normal energy order applies for multi electron?

am i interpreting this right

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Yes

Usi page me upar Jo likha hai vo padho

Pg no. 60

[crimson sage]

bet bet

thank u vm

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Vaha aache se explain hai

[crimson sage]

+solved Sephrina

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