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[green oak]

RAH

[solemn hinge]

hi

[green oak]

wat is the qnf am

[pseudo quiver]

c gets attacked by the R-

[solemn hinge]

shouldn't this be the ans

[solemn hinge]

yes sir

won't u end up with a R and 1 Et at the end?

[green oak]

bro i have no ieda what htsi is

[solemn hinge]

are u not in 12th?

[green oak]

no

for organic

[solemn hinge]

aight

[green oak]

i just started

goc

dw i'll catchup

[solemn hinge]

@pseudo quiver sir do u mind helping me out

[solemn hinge]

💀 wild, gl with that

[solemn hinge]

sir after R attacks, it gets attached to C, and the doubel bond O converts into an alcohol, and to OEt, the O gets knocked out

[pseudo quiver]

oh yea tertiary alcohol banna chahiye
https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2011/10/14/reagent-friday-grignard-reagents/

[solemn hinge]

ji vohi sir, ek second mein ek aur pic bhejra hu

@pseudo quiver so here top right vale mein, same procedure is followed in the q i sent above na?

[pseudo quiver]

so since there is jsut 1 eq

if ther are two eq

you get tertiary

[solemn hinge]

acha

[pseudo quiver]

see example 4

[solemn hinge]

just a sec its loading

okay so basically, in the first step you have R coming in and joining C, due to which the entire OEt gets knocked out
incase u have 2 eq, the Et is gonna join back

am i right sir

@pseudo quiver

[pseudo quiver]

no no. with 2 eq two R get added

with 1 eq just 1 R gets added

OEt gets 'knocked off' either way

in both casesd

[solemn hinge]

but then why is the Et getting knocked out, also sir in all the examples they gave, the Et is taken as R itself, they;ve made errors

[pseudo quiver]

na bro

sahi likha hai :D

see example 4 :)

upar

[solemn hinge]

wait 1 second sir

im pretty sure they've made an error

[solemn hinge]

ye first example

[pseudo quiver]

Adds twice

[solemn hinge]

maine reagent mein kutch katke, R likha hai

that was OEt

[pseudo quiver]

Please read this properly :)

https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/12/10/reactions-of-grignard-reagents/

this is the summary

[solemn hinge]

so ur saying, entire OEt gets knocked out, and 2 R are getting added

[pseudo quiver]

Dude

stop saying OEt gets knocked off xD

C-O bond breaks

[solemn hinge]

aaah this is so hard 😭

[pseudo quiver]

Now that C-O can be from C=O or from C-OEt, C-OCl, C-O-C

C=O is a harder bond to break, than the others

simple toh hai

[solemn hinge]

anything present on the RHS of O, is leaving

[pseudo quiver]

read good books. you will be sorted. in this case, this site :)

[solemn hinge]

tho agar mere pass COCH3 hota, phir bhi CH3 nikla, aur R adds twice

[pseudo quiver]

LHS. C-O bond breaks

[solemn hinge]

aight bet, tysm sir

[pseudo quiver]

No, OCH3 breaks

not CH3

[solemn hinge]

😭 wai i tthink ur not getting wht im tryna say

OH

[pseudo quiver]

C-O bond breaks duuuuude

:D

[solemn hinge]

ENTIRE OCH3

BREAKS AND LEAVES

???

[pseudo quiver]

that is the same as OEt na

[solemn hinge]

yeah

same

[pseudo quiver]

then yea :D

[solemn hinge]

AH SHIT DAYUMN THAT MAKES SENSE

TYSM GOT IT

wait i just clicked on ur yt channel sir

no way

sir u used to teach in byjus

i remember

i saw ur vids on the learning portal, i had their lenovo tab vala course

ty @pseudo quiver how do i close this post??

[pseudo quiver]

Hahaha yes

Most welcome man

+solved @ user who helped

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