✏️┆nte-lore

[wispy zephyr]

hmm ig you are right

[high plinth]

akane and aurelia are both ex-anomaly hunters but apparently they are bloodthirsty enough to fight at the minimum chance...

why tf is aurelia even playable right now bruv

[wispy zephyr]

ill still leave doubt in her being an esper, mostly cause we dont fully know how will non-esper are/could be when it comes to capability to fight, like maybe she is just a goated retiree

[high plinth]

it's implied via the Clarion quest that most, if not all independent anomaly hunters are espers

[cursive seal]

Doesn't have to be esper to fight, it's implied sakiri is contractor not esper

[wispy zephyr]

okay now that being pedantic

[high plinth]

sakiri is very much an esper

[wispy zephyr]

CONTRACTER ARE ESPERSSSSSSSSSSS

[high plinth]

"incantation" type esper, same as Adler

[wispy zephyr]

i will not stand for esper erasure via being a contracter

[high plinth]

it's a type of esper that makes a contract with an "anomaly from another world", I.E. kiroumaru or adler's deer

[high plinth]

saying they're not espers is flat out wrong bruv 😭

[wispy zephyr]

i agree with you 🤩

[wispy zephyr]

im saying that people, which i have seen before, saying that contracters are not true espers

saying that "well adler had has powers given to him by ayatana, without it he is just a blind dude"

[high plinth]

both characters where it says "contract" instead of "esper" are of the "incantation" character subclass and in the glossary it specifies that "incantation" is an esper type

[wispy zephyr]

which to me, i do not agree with this kind of esper erasure

[high plinth]

adler losing his eyesight is literally part of the price an esper pays

and sakiri having a horn is part of the physical body modification a lot of espers go through

[wispy zephyr]

uhhhh, he was blind before ayatana....

[high plinth]

maybe i misremembered

[wispy zephyr]

sakiri is like prime candiate one of being an example of being an esper since birth unlike the other people like skia and aurelia who got it when they were teens

[high plinth]

wasn't skia already working an office job by the time he got his esper?

[wispy zephyr]

it also plays into sakiri's sentiments of wanting to find a community that won't reject her

[wispy zephyr]

oh so i guess mid 20s for him, good for him

[high plinth]

is is said in Chiz's index log that a lot of places reject espers

for being dangerous or because of superstition

since chiz used to live in NTE afghanistan or sum shi like that

[high plinth]

"good for him" lmao true

he got to live a pretty long life as a normal person before, y'know...

[wispy zephyr]

oh that Chiz lore really was some sad stuff, felt quite personal

[high plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-wolf-sigma-male-gif-26562640

[high plinth]

im still surprised that mf fed her family anomalies

[wispy zephyr]

okay but they were edible ones 🤩

[high plinth]

her village has a few incongruities

the village isn't exactly an uncontacted tribe, they had enough money to send Chiz on a ferry to N. Hetero

[latent lance]

inbefore they release S aurelia

[high plinth]

yet they were backwards enough to have their kids hunting anomalies??? with a few of chiz's brothers not even returning

those mf died

[wispy zephyr]

one of her biggest issue is growing up feeling guilty for having"first world issues" will never not make me laugh

[high plinth]

this just shows that whatever country N. hetero/n. helios is in has some gargantuan inequality issues

[fading sundial]

Honestly feels like Megumin's Family from the Crimson Demon Village for those that have seen said Anime.

Specifically Megumin's family.

[high plinth]

actual saudi arabia levels of poverty difference between the big cities and random ahh hamlets

[latent lance]

so there is chance that ||Renee|| become a contractor esper

[high plinth]

https://giphy.com/gifs/flight-flightreacts-reacts-tcArPzBCa8SqsyDfro

have u seen her ingame model lil bro

[latent lance]

its not bad

[high plinth]

i havent ever seen a gacha npc get upgraded to playable status with an upgraded chara model

if it has ever happened be sure 2 let me know

[wispy zephyr]

uhhhhhhhh

[high plinth]

in NTE this is basically renee lmaooo

[wispy zephyr]

xianyun i think counts but also i dont play genshin anymore

[high plinth]

i guess that technically counts but i was thinking about npc human model -> playable human model

the fact that the only example is a non-human model that received a human model only when becoming playable lwk speaks volumes

[wispy zephyr]

i know there are arknight example of like npc becomes playable way later but i also dont play ak, only have heard aabout it

[high plinth]

hmm...

[wide ridge]

Imagine if we get this for NTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avpTgTNadh4

Whereby Chiz via character development carves a country for herself right underneath them.

[quaint cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-meme-i-just-made-some-bullshit-gif-15690632352507439130

[high plinth]

etoile yapping about unrelated snca again 🔥

[wide ridge]

Mind me, I got ideas. I intend to share.

[high plinth]

and im here for those ideas my king

[upper nimbus]

Why does Lakshana sounds painful as shit

[wide ridge]

I was refering to this.

[upper nimbus]

Kinda makes it look like you use your own body as a weapon, unless that's literally what's being implied here with Lakshana

[wispy zephyr]

well hathor grew a whole wing, skia got morphed into a furry and uses his shadow, and chaos we dont know how he fights yet but he has a cuff on him

[upper nimbus]

Wait I just remembered

Well, that's just what I personally experienced, and I dunno how the fuck other Lakshana chars play, but I played Baicang, and bro loses his HP in the process every time he attacks.

[upper nimbus]

Chaos for now looks quite ordinary.

So it's difficult to grasp wtf bro is about.

[wispy zephyr]

sigh, me personally i will be spending money to pull for him but i do hope his animations go hard, maybe some fun martial arts combined with his gun

[upper nimbus]

Unless it's the type of power that quite literally doesn't show itself, unless you use it.

[wispy zephyr]

cause lakshana is inherently physical and stuff but dude has a gun so i wonder has he uses it, maybe close range gun

[high plinth]

baicang is incantation

[upper nimbus]

Oh

[wispy zephyr]

baicang represents incantation coming from the power of language

[high plinth]

my theory is that chaos' doggy is an extension of his self, kinda like how Youmu Konpaku's ghost is part of her

and he uses the dog kinda like a long range stand, like Hierophant Green and needs his gun to protect the main body

[high plinth]

as opposed to summoning an anomaly like the other incant esprs

[wispy zephyr]

i thought that as well but then i thought, damn that could just be an anomaly that ETD just has around, though i do hope the livestream will show come of his gameplay

though the dog does open portals and stuff so chaos being a teleporting lakshana could be neat with the dog

[high plinth]

yeah, this is a point that isn't brought up much, the amount of anomalies that anomaly hunters and BAC espers use to fight

ive theorized that Nanally's underboss is an anomaly unrelated to her esper, same as how hathor has the cream anomaly

[wispy zephyr]

maybe they are all just really good friends

the power of friendship 🤩

[high plinth]

making contracts with anomalies is something that has to be explored more

another interesting theory, is that since the source of an esper's power is similar to the source of anomalies (unsubstantiated but its a theory that exists ingame), the apparition of an esper ability could lead to the generation of derivate anomalies, same as how the apparition of an anomaly can lead to the generation of a separate derivative anomaly

[wispy zephyr]

oh homology theory how i need to know more

[high plinth]

real

[wispy zephyr]

oh damn i knew the name without a second thought, damn im fixated on nte lore

[high plinth]

well it's not like homology is a word that doesn't exist in our language

but yeah, get a life @wispy zephyr

[wispy zephyr]

TRUEEEEE

i like how the theory are brought up as ideas to sink our teeth into without outwardly confirming or denying anything, just fun to think about as new info gets shown

[high plinth]

if this is true then an esper ability:

• can have a price
• can lead to the apparition of new body elements (unrelated to the price) - cats, sakiri
• can lead to the apparition of new body elements (are the esper ability) - hathor
• can lead to the apparition of new body elements (are the esper ability and the price) - skia
• can lead to the apparition of an anomaly (are the esper ability) - sakiri, adler
• can lead to the apparition of an anomaly (unrelated to the esper ability) - nanally (?)
• can lead to the apparition of an anomaly (are the price) - doesnt exist yet but maybe in the future
• can lead to the apparition of an anomaly (are the esper ability and the price) - sakiri (?)
  (?) means that it's just my theory

[wispy zephyr]

wait im forgetting it right now, but the yggash restricted entry about kikimaru is interesting as well, since that section is explicitly for anomalies it means that the yggash court understand sakiri's esper contract to be an anomaly

[high plinth]

yeah, that's adler and sakiri's esper basically

they're essentially stands from JJBA or shikigami from JJK

[wispy zephyr]

though i wonder what counts as a contract as well, cause its established that contracts in general have power like the one alphard has us sign and the one the twins have people sign in pawn moonlight

[high plinth]

but they have their own sentience

[wispy zephyr]

so i wonder if there can be incantation esper who abilities are pure based on making contracts with others, ie whatever mismo and otho are doing

[high plinth]

anyone can make a contract with an anomaly, in fact entire institutions can make a contract with an anomaly, like the BAC with eclipse

this contract can be rescinded, meanwhile the contract an incantation esper makes with their anomaly is for life, with their side of the contract being the esper price

[wispy zephyr]

well yes, but the terms of potential of each contract im curious in, im thinking of it kind of like nen contract from HxH, im curious if there are known ways to meddle with other peoples contracts

like maybe an anomaly item that can void contracts :0

[high plinth]

yeah it would make sense if otro/mismo esper makes contracts

[wispy zephyr]

the in-universe rules of contract are what im most curious in especially since it hasn't reaally been discussed the logistics of ingame that much

[high plinth]

which kinda asks the question: are there esper abilities that require another esper ability to function? like otro and mismo need each other's esper ability while another esper ability can (possibly) work as a sort of parasite esper that sucks power from another esper, another esper can copy other espers, etc

[wispy zephyr]

do keep in mind that mismo and otho abilities are just like that cause they are twins

[high plinth]

do they both have the same or similar esper that can function independently from the other?

[wispy zephyr]

iirc the game said that "its rumored that twins have complimenting esper abilities" or smth like that

checking rn

[high plinth]

what it probably is is that each ability can work independently but the abilities help each other work better

[wispy zephyr]

i still do love how dandelion just has pawn moonlights as a den, oh so silly

[high plinth]

"some unknown power" could be the in-universe set of rules that administrate contracts

be it karma, fate or destiny

they use the in-universe contract power to siphon stuff from people (sense of taste, sight, etc) and convert it into time to prolong otro/mismo's (i dont remember) fleeting timespan

you think it may be this?

[wispy zephyr]

oh i agree, they are using the laws of exchange/contracts afforded to them by their powers to draw out contracts and fulfill them for the weaker one which is uhhh

i wanna say mismo is the frail one

[high plinth]

fun fact, otro is "another" in spanish while mismo is "the same" in spanish

[wispy zephyr]

oh mismo is the alive one

otro is the one who is like dying actively

[high plinth]

something that's got me thinking, the price of a contract ratified by their esper can be converted into time... Does the price of obtaining an esper ability turn into anything? is it given to whoever/whatever emits these abilities?

[wispy zephyr]

oh thats neat, i love all the little reference to other languages like how hotori esper ability is named after a collection of german elegies

[wispy zephyr]

for me i interpreted it they work off a similar exchange system that esper go off of, but instead of esper abilities they materialize desires and wishes and use a default of equal amount of time to lose something.

like esper have a personal trade off they have that is determined by fate or the cruel laws of the world or smth, but the twins can use a similar system to have desires be fulfilled in exchange for a simpler cost, time

[high plinth]

it is a similar system, but think about it
the esper system goes like:
esper -> price
their system goes like:
contract -> price -> time for otro's lifespan

there is a third element to the equation

[wispy zephyr]

kinda suck to be in constant working mode or you straight up just die, or heh crazy idea, the debt collector gets on your ass

[high plinth]

im at work too

[wispy zephyr]

oh i was referring to them having to constantly work to make contraacts but yes! that as well

[high plinth]

boss wants me to put a container in this proxmov VE computer but the kernel is years old and i cant really do it using the scripts...

[fading sundial]

Btw can someone go to this phone in the creepy ah tunnel all the way on the northeast side of the map and try to figure out where the music is from? It's specifically the left phone on the northern half.

There's six red phones total in the tunnel for any future searchers.

[high plinth]

kernel is so old that proxmox doesn't have any active download mirros

[wispy zephyr]

kk

[high plinth]

something that i found interesting is that in the glossary, iirc, it mentions that prices don't necessarily follow the laws of equivelent exchange

[wispy zephyr]

boop

the usually paid immediately upon ability inception intrigues me

[high plinth]

it's hilarious lmao

otro's esper and price be like
"ok so you now have to work your ass off giving contracts to random mfs or you'll die k bye"

meanwhile nanally doesn't even know what her price was lmao

[wispy zephyr]

omg you werent lying this tunnel is creepy af

[high plinth]

that or its something like "in 10 years a meteorite will fall on you lmfaooo"

[high plinth]

it isn't mentioned if the price can be a side effect of the ability that takes effect whenever it's used, like that of baicang...

[wispy zephyr]

wait is there like a specific phone making a sound

[high plinth]

is the effect of baicang's esper on his health separate from the price he payed?

[wispy zephyr]

oh found it, what is this guitar

[fading sundial]

Less 'ring ring ring' and more being around the left North phone plays different music than the other others, so not sure if just awkward tech stuff like that patch of water in the garage of the Porsche building or something intended.

Also not sure if it's music heard elsewhere or if it's that location only.

I think it's just general music for that area.

I hear it when outside the tunnel.

[wispy zephyr]

i see i see, im just scronging youtube NTE bg music uploadss

i think that phone might just be outside of the miguel district bounding box

but also, still what a creepy ass tunnel

?????

[fading sundial]

lawl

[wispy zephyr]

what.

i was fine with ass being censored, on the fence with the creep in creepy, but what is wrong with tunnel????

[wide ridge]

Any notes?

[wispy zephyr]

just want a star employee me thinks

[fading sundial]

The Rain/Night version of that song is really nice.

[wispy zephyr]

yknow what dude, same.

[rocky osprey]

ngl, they did censor a whole lot of words imo

[warped flare]

You cant even type "Nanally"

[zinc root]

tunnel and train meme

[zinc root]

maybe bc of the „a*al“ in it

[wispy zephyr]

oh its exactly that, got to be a tad creative with the name though

[warped flare]

It totally is. Just kinda funny we cant type out our first limited char XD

[zinc root]

the game is fresh im sure theyll fix it in the next patch updates

[zinc root]

yea

[gray pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-yakuza-bakamitai-dame-dame-dane-gif-17523422

Nunnaly perhaps

[high plinth]

Why howdy, m'ichi-dame

[high plinth]

nanari

[rocky osprey]

we goin JP in pronunciation in here

[wispy zephyr]

wait what

wut

[normal elm]

What's the lore behind this red sky

[rocky osprey]

I’m pretty sure that’s like anomaly’s highest concentration in hethereau?

[wispy zephyr]

the golden tree atop midas technoligies represents their coporate culture of midas touch

midas tech is responsible for the creation of arcs so hey maybe this part of the process

interesting enough, right next to that area is a door that houses an anomaly realm that is the only place you can fight empty shells (the knight dudes) in the overworld

[rocky osprey]

could be after all, we’re literally warped atop the bldg.

[wispy zephyr]

oh wait its their whole workshop

yea okay they definitely doing some weird shit in there

[high plinth]

Zerogon is part of the circle?

[wispy zephyr]

yes

[high plinth]

What is an arc?

[wispy zephyr]

its part of the big 5

[rocky osprey]

so it’s indeed the highest concentration of anomalies in hethereau (explains the whole red glow even inside the bldg. itself)

bc that line “bringing anomalies into every household”

[high plinth]

Yggdrash, zerogon, bac, prison and which is the last one?

[wispy zephyr]

boop

[rocky osprey]

groth? wait I forgot its accurate name but the place where zero came from

[wispy zephyr]

boop

boop pt2

[rocky osprey]

there it is, ghroth

I’ve only missed an “h”

[wispy zephyr]

boop pt2

[high plinth]

I get the difference between zerogon and yggdrash, but ghroth and caelano?

[rocky osprey]

ig we’ll see more of it down on the next patches

[wispy zephyr]

the circle all in all is very SCP coded

so celaeno seems more for the chill anomalies that are going to be researched eventually and just need a place to be housed

and ghroth is for the persistance problem anomalies that they keep on lockdown

especially when stuff like the first branch is from ghroth island iirc

[high plinth]

Maybe caelano administers the very big anomaly contracts

[wispy zephyr]

boop

[high plinth]

Alr

Maybe ghroth is for espers…

[wispy zephyr]

there seems to a lot of mystery and fear that surrounds ghroth island

[high plinth]

No because then why would they send zero there at the start specifically

[wispy zephyr]

cause its a prison for esper

fadia is from ghroth island

[high plinth]

Ohhh thst makes sense

[wispy zephyr]

lol love this for her

[high plinth]

Espers that chimp out go there basically

[wispy zephyr]

boop

[high plinth]

Unsurprising thst zero is accustomed to prison

Not his first time in the slammer

[rocky osprey]

fr

iirc baicang also said smth along the lines of advising zero not to tell anyone that they’re originally from ghroth island

[wispy zephyr]

seems like ghroth also just acts as a holding facility for unknown/potentially dangerous espers, cause zero did kind of show up with amnesia during a class 7 anomaly

[high plinth]

He isn’t originally from grok island

He first appeared in Helios

Goes to show that mc is a pretty reasonable fella

They (circle) put his ass in the clink but he doesn’t hold it against them because it was pretty obviously the pragmatic thing to do in the moment

[fossil cradle]

More detained than sentenced

"What are you in for?"
"I exist"

[high plinth]

Same brutha

[supple raptor]

Has there been cases of an Anomaly within an Anomaly?

Like, not being brought in from outside but part of it?

[fossil cradle]

In what sense?

[wispy zephyr]

wdym, there are derivative anomalies

[high plinth]

The term derivative anomaly

[fossil cradle]

There's anomalies that have multiple distinct parts like the ghost train

[wispy zephyr]

like the ghost train and miss levi are deritives

and the chronicles of ages and the debt collector

[supple raptor]

Two Separate anomalies together as one

[supple raptor]

What's that?

[wispy zephyr]

its in the name, anomalies that have derivatives like the ghost station

miss Levi is a fun one since she had a whole quest to do about the state of the ghost train

[fossil cradle]

I think the for most part anomalies are sort of "self insistent" and if two anomalies are together then it's only by human intervention

And if you just combine them, then bad reactions can occur

[quasi hatch]

Why does adler wear transparent glasses instead of sunglasses ?

[wispy zephyr]

Cause they were a gift from nanally

[quasi hatch]

When was it mentioned?

[wispy zephyr]

In his voice lines

[quasi hatch]

Thanks

[gloomy heron]

Thats adorable

[wispy zephyr]

His voicelines about the young eibon staff are quite fun to listen to and his character profile is just his slice of life experience at eibon with his sunyas

[gloomy heron]

Im trying to learn more about blackbird

I love her design a lot and i hope i can get her

[wispy zephyr]

most of what we know about blackbird is tied up in what we know about oracle gems and what we see during T ht scarlet letter quest when renee gets her divination

[wispy zephyr]

Maybe in 1.1 we will get more especially as more ETD staff get involved in the story

[gloomy heron]

In which update will she release approx?

[wispy zephyr]

Well we don’t know that, her involvement in the story is very light so who knows is she will become playable or if her model stays in npc jail

[gloomy heron]

She has a confirmed arc type of gas

So shes most likely playable

[wispy zephyr]

okay well if I was not making it obvious we can’t talk leaks in the OFFICIAL SERVER

[gloomy heron]

Those r leaks?

[wispy zephyr]

…

[wispy zephyr]

show me where it’s confirmed officially

[gloomy heron]

Idk i saw it on google

[wispy zephyr]

if not then it’s leaks

[gloomy heron]

I looked up “blackbird element” on google and it said her elemnt isnt confirmed but her arc type is gas

[wispy zephyr]

then yes those were leaks, which obviously not allowed on the global server for discussion

[wispy zephyr]

also those leaks aren’t reliable for a hotta game, but I digress let’s move on

[gloomy heron]

I dont want to get banned

[gloomy heron]

What about zero? Whats their lore?

[eternal river]

Blackbird is likely a hat that creates a human-like body. Probably also can temporarily borrow bodies of other humans

[eternal river]

It is possible that the girl in the house is also a borrowed body, but that would be a bit too creepy to consider

[wispy zephyr]

Wait theory, blackbird the hat is a contracted anomaly

[eternal river]

It is likely

[storm fractal]

As much as I like creepy facts, this one is more reasonable for nte to do.

[wispy zephyr]

the potential for contracted anomalies is a fun one, especially since blackbird is associated with the yggash court know for their research and knowledge

[fossil cradle]

It would be more fun if the body is just like a secretary basically

[dense cosmos]

I'm doing the Kokoro rider and boy I am cringing hard

[dense cosmos]

Bro fuck Clarion

[rugged wave]

we need a puff aprrecciation channel

[dense cosmos]

Nah.

[eternal river]

you mean Durian ass lickers? 🥀

[rugged wave]

🥀

is there a lore reason for 90% of the female npc being stacked

[latent lance]

Anomalities

[eternal river]

Nacupeda often doubles the milk

And they pray a lot to nacupeda

[proud whale]

Is our resident witch apart of the court?

Of yggash

[eternal river]

You mean Hotori or Blackbird? Blackbird yes

[proud whale]

Ah

[fossil cradle]

Average cup size in helios gotta be F

[wide ridge]

Must be the work of an anomaly.

[upper nimbus]

Wait hang on

So Ghroth Island is a place for criminals?
What the fuck did Zero do bruh

[fossil cradle]

Show up

[upper nimbus]

I don't have Fadia (or whatever her name is) so I didn't know she was also at that place.
Welp

[upper nimbus]

If you just show up this ain't a base to get you into jail 💔

[fossil cradle]

Zero was detained because they were a mysterious (and mysteriously powerful) esper who suddenly appeared for unexplained reasons at the same time as the zero anomaly

[hazy inlet]

And they have zero memories

Which doesn’t help their case

[fossil cradle]

The BAC didn't know what to do with zero, but they for sure weren't going to just let them go

[upper nimbus]

Interesting

No wonder Zero is quite familiar with jail

[fossil cradle]

At the very least zero would have been detained for extensive questioning and research regardless, but being an esper meant they needed to be contained properly

You don't just put a person who can do a judgement cut in a normal holding facility

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-gif-25306498

[upper nimbus]

Lmao

Yeah, ain't no way no one will observe a person who can do a judgement cut

Ngl I'm gonna need more of that potential lore of why Zero ain't the first time in a slammer.

[eternal river]

I have only one problem with this attack. Bro missed all his cuts 😭

[wide ridge]

Tax evasion.

He gave up his memory so that he would forget that he needed to pay taxes.

[upper nimbus]

😭

[pine silo]

i need help
i'm stuck on anomaly exhibit lamp quest
i closed the app and restart and now i can't change the weather to day or night in the incident side quest .

[upper nimbus]

This ain't here.
Try #🤝┆gameplay-help
I'm kinda unaware if that issue is of technical stuff

[pine silo]

tried

[zinc root]

She just another me🥹✌🏼❤️‍🩹

[violet burrow]

fadia did get sent to ghroth island. pretty sure its cause she committed mass murder or something

[rugged wave]

Renne quest was the best one so far if they keep it of that quality story is gonna be good

[upper nimbus]

Damn

[frank crater]

nitsa, that’s it , that’s the post

[high plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-this-who-is-this-meme-gif-3167500179842664519

[quaint cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/ball-knower-meme-bro-knows-ball-ball-gif-17027802866392353851

its judgement cut end tho

anyways, anyone knows what or who is the weird scam message that spams i miss you and talks nonsense

[hazy inlet]

Oh they stopped messaging after they hacked us? Or smth like that

Not sure what even happened

[quaint cliff]

same, it js creeped me out

[hazy inlet]

I feel like it might be someone we meet in story later

[nocturne sand]

Best part ab the Tageydo quest was when Adler stole his girl 💀💀 🥀

[hazy inlet]

poor tage

[eternal river]

that's Mr.Beast trying to sell you Doge coins

[high plinth]

Who the shit is nitsa bro

[high plinth]

I better see you buying em

Mr b asked you personally 😡

[quaint cliff]

etd-6 member i think

[fossil cradle]

My bet is someone or something tied to the group who heist the auction

[main plank]

the future character with blue hair and a white outfit that looks like a wedding dress

[high plinth]

Supposed to be what is equivalent to a paranormal SWAT btw

[violet burrow]

ETD? nah they are above the swat. they are almost if not the top line. JTF is closer to swat.

[high plinth]

no bro

JTF is a civilian department in charge of paperwork, public relations, etc

theyre foot grunts that if anything are in charge of solving very minor anomaly cases they can hardly be considered anomaly hunters

[violet burrow]

yes but they are also the ones sent out during they hypervortex event. the HPS is just the normal police and the JTF are also normal people but they have access to anomoly equipment and such. the Swat irl is also just a specialized police department

[high plinth]

alr bro, so according to what you just said how is JTF swat 😭

HPS and BAC are completely different departments btw

[violet burrow]

yes but in game we havent seen a department of HPS other than the people running around and executioner. the JTF still gets sent out for more important things that the HPS cant handle just like whats done irl. JTF is just the HPS but with better equipment and resources. the ETD is like the top of the line stuff

we dont even know of a group of individuals above ETD when it comes to combat strength.

[high plinth]

HPS and BAC are compeltely different departments with domains of expertize, they do different things

HPS is for non-human non-anomaly related incidents

[violet burrow]

who were u originally sayins is the swat equivelent?

i didnt read that far up. i assumed u were talking about ETD

[high plinth]

ETD? i said ETD were paranormal swat equivalent

it's likely HPS has its own SWAT equivalent

they have a bigass anomaly that they bring out for very high dangerous humans so it's not like they're underequiped

they probably have more resources than the JTF

it's just that these resources are for dealing with humans, not anomalies

[violet burrow]

well if ur talking about anomoly exclusively then sure since its only JTF/CSU and ETD

[high plinth]

yeah? that's kinda what i was saying

[violet burrow]

i was talking about in general cause JTF still gets sent out for normal things.

one anomoly doesnt really mean they have more resources. JTF is backed by everything else in BAC. if JTF is underequipped then the problem just goes to a different group and that would apply to HPS too.

[thin mica]

i wonder if renee gonna become a core part of the story hmm

[violet burrow]

she kinda already said her farewells. i dont think shes coming back

[thin mica]

NYOOO how can! SHE THE BEST GIRL

[thin mica]

seem like we could get bella

[empty jackal]

Where can you see such informations?

[wispy zephyr]

Index glossary entries

[main plank]

@thin mica if you go back and find the cherry tree from the quest, there's a place on one of the roots you can investigate to get an epilogue for that quest

[violet burrow]

i never went back. is it more farewell or ima come back?

[empty jackal]

Ic thanks

[main plank]

well, I'd rather not spoil it, but you do get more clarity on what happens with Renee

[empty jackal]

Uh where exactly is that?

[violet burrow]

just put the || things at the start and end of ur sentence for the spoiler thing. i cant go back rn

[main plank]

it's toward the northeast of the map. Go east along Whitetail Ridge Road, starting from the very last intersection. There will be a path leading north to the cherry tree. On one of the roots there will be a little doll you can examine

[main plank]

basically, ||Renee ends up with two choices. She can become an "esper construct" under the protection of the BAC, which will mean that the debt collector will keep coming for her but the BAC will stop it. Or, she can live as an ordinary human being; the debt collector won't come for her but she'll be subject to aging and death just like any other human. Renee chooses the latter option.||

[empty jackal]

Thanks

[thin mica]

sigh i wish we could get more of constantine family. i am thinking bella would become playable in the future.

[modern prairie]

so im doing ||Renee's story rn and Bella's model is wayy to fleshed out for her to not be a playable character later on right? I'm not going crazy?||

[empty jackal]

wow

Peak🥹

[violet burrow]

makes sense. thanks

[main plank]

don't worry, you're not the only one

[empty jackal]

Hm idk. She IS an important character in the main story so it would only make sense for her model to be like this

[high plinth]

she is going to be playable, like 99% chance

the gacha community needs to get over la signora

[violet burrow]

scar and geshu lin still arent playable😂. just gotta hope they arent gonna do us like that

[storm fractal]

Genshin waste a major of potential profit with that fumble honestly

[high plinth]

my man you just gotta TrvstThePlan™

I FOR ONE FULLY TRUST HOTTA

[high plinth]

who wouldve thought that ZankouSlave_ZankouMommy also thinks zankou gonna become playable

[storm fractal]

Atp I gotta get my fix of lack of men from another game called “The Moonlit Oath” 😭. They sure do be have plenty of male over there

[high plinth]

r u lwk gay tho

[storm fractal]

I’m straight

[violet burrow]

never heard of that one. most people just go to deep space for male characters

[high plinth]

if i wanna thirst for male characters ill just play cod or gta or sum shi

gacha men all look like twinks

[storm fractal]

Men in deep space generic asf. I dun like it

[violet burrow]

idk moonlit but theres a difference between thirst games and games with alot of males that are badass.

thats like saying someone is gay for having jiyan, brant, geshu, and calcharo on their account. they are just cool asf

its a good change of pace compared to waifus all the time. i need a aura farmer

[storm fractal]

I just find it silly whenever Wuwa pulled an avengers cutscene and 90% of the cast all women with one singular male in the mix

[violet burrow]

lol yea thats how it is

[storm fractal]

Not into that kind of graphic nor into FPS (I have shit aim and sight)

[high plinth]

tbch

this is a chinese gacha

this is quite probably the last place on earth where you'll find much of a male cast

[storm fractal]

True that lol

I love scp still and nte’s overworld pretty lively

[high plinth]

scp?

[violet burrow]

u never heard of SCP?

[high plinth]

ive heard of the scp foundation

[thin mica]

woo daffodil might have fallen for MC HEHE

anyway they actually make the MC really really strong

[high plinth]

but what does that have to do with nte other than the circle and 3c

we're talking about gay gacha men wtf bro

[thin mica]

i like how they didnt make MC look weak and helpless and couldnt handle single combat.

while other games always make the MC look super weak

[violet burrow]

idk. i guess they are just giving out reason why they play NTE and not just gta or whatever

[high plinth]

what i like is how they make mc have a bit of a personality, he isn't a flap of cardboard

it seems that he's a reserved yet cynical person

[thin mica]

and he is smart! he can think!

[wispy zephyr]

ooo gay gacha men

[thin mica]

honestly i swear out of the 5 MC. well that i played mainly. or used to play.
Hsr / GI / Wuwa / ZZZ / Endfield.
this is the best MC thus far.
Able to handle his own without needing people to help them. He can go toe-to-toe.

even Wuwa didnt make rover so op in the story.

[wispy zephyr]

can’t wait we get a instant esper cycler for each type to eventually end up with a powercreep on Mc

or counterpoint we get to do type switching as well, that would be fun

[high plinth]

there is no way that isn't happening near instantaneously lmao

[violet burrow]

mhh wouldnt say rover isnt OP. the only reason rover doesnt go and smack around whatever is because in all of their main conflicts, they were severely nerfed or was forced to hold back.

[high plinth]

we powercreeping ts bich into the ground next patch 🔥

[thin mica]

thats why they need to give MC more backbone man.

dont be too afraid to fight back. Like NTE. zero can go toe-to-toe with zankou and even win against zankou.

[high plinth]

woah woah woah "win"???

[violet burrow]

rover has they especially recently due to certain events. during 2.x main conflict, rover actually doing anything crazy strong would just lead to the destruction they are actively trying to prevent. in 3.x, rover has their frequency drained from them and is basically in a sick and weaken state

[high plinth]

it was a tie

[thin mica]

@high plinth technically zankou was almost losing.

it was a "Tie" but zankou had to "pull out her ultimate" but was stopped by chaos

if zankou had to her out her ultimate or her special attack while zero doesnt need. u can tell its more of a losing situation for zankou.

[violet burrow]

also backbone when rover went around a killed one of the most liked characters in the game and didnt even care afterwards

[thin mica]

oh yeah true. talking about that we need more of a rover able to go toe to toe again with enemies

[vital hound]

Hey yall. don't you find it weird that Daffodil is talking about her eyepatch but does not have one, or a skin that has one?

[thin mica]

i wish we get more fight scene tbh.
aether / lumine was so weak and stupid.
caelus / stelle was perfect funny character. but their power scaling are so hard to tell. sometime they win sometime they lose.

[thin mica]

we will only see her eyepatch daffodil get her SP version.

[violet burrow]

tbf rovers enemies are currently alot more dangerous than the ones in NTE. also i dont think we will see rover fighting by themselfs again since i guess they tried to push the "you arent alone" personality development back in 2.x

[empty jackal]

I think she just collects them

[thin mica]

yeah....i mean they could still do what NTE does. get the mc into "alone" situation.

[high plinth]

she has a collection of eyepatches because she's a bit of a weirdo

[thin mica]

i wanna see daffodil SP version.

[vital hound]

hmm, i'll use that to explain the inconsistency :))

[thin mica]

cause aint no way she is this "weak".

Adler would most likely get a S-Rank version but not anytime soon.

[violet burrow]

yea hopefully we can see they pop off. rover is still at a very very small fraction of their full power rn and theres also larger threats that have been talked about in the lore

[thin mica]

daffodil would definitely be getting a SP version aka a secondary form.

[vital hound]

would be kinda weird to have two versions, moaybe they will realease a skin alongside a character that complements her really well

[thin mica]

if i were to put NTE in a hoyoverse.
I would say their powerscaling are similar or equal to ZZZ.

[thin mica]

nope. definitely not weird. many games have this.

it just mean that its a 2nd power up. thats how they make the character stronger

[vital hound]

i only know for A ranks, I would skip so hard the game if they start releasing duplicate S ranks

[thin mica]

u cant tell me Nanally is "limited s-rank" while nanally master aka daffodil "isnt limited S Rank"

[violet burrow]

ZZZ is at the bottom of the food chain rn and genshin is also near the bottom. NTE is still young so id also say they are below genshin. wuwa should be above that and then HSR and on top with PGR

[thin mica]

bottom of the food chain?

[violet burrow]

zzz weak asf

[thin mica]

PGR should be around wuwa level.

[violet burrow]

u cant let in game visuals gas light u or else omniman is nuking every verse out there

[vital hound]

idk, i replace wuwa with this game, hopefully they do better but i have my expectations very low lol

[thin mica]

if we are ranking powerscaling.
1: HSR
2: Wuwa / PGR / Endfield
3: zzz
4: genshin tbh

[violet burrow]

absolutely not. PGR verse scales much higher. it scales exctremely high

[thin mica]

hmm honestly they dont have god and stuff yet tho. do they?

limbus company is around zzz but slightly higher than zzz.

[violet burrow]

its not about how many gods or lack of gods. its just the verses cosmology itself. they have much stronger feats

[thin mica]

true honestly i think hsr wil lbe the strongest

in end.
since they have so many world-ender now.

[violet burrow]

genshin has gods to but it means nothing if ur cosmology is low

[thin mica]

or universe ender.
just aeon of voracity could end the entire universe.

[modern prairie]

Scarlet Letter Analysis was so peak holy crap

[thin mica]

i love how they handle MC in this game.

not too weak but also not too overly powered. doesnt 1 strike stuff.

[violet burrow]

idk much about hsr or pgr but im pretty sure pgr run on a multiversal scale and is basically a simulation or something. you would have to ask someone who plays pgr. hsr is up there too for sure

[high plinth]

no offence my buddy but isn't this like the 3rd time youve said it

[thin mica]

answering to different people 😛

[high plinth]

like i agree but shi bro

[upper nimbus]

Funny seeing the diff between powerscaling of HSR and Genshin 😭

[thin mica]

idk why but zzz powerscaling is more higher than genshin.

[high plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-11119519098820520575

[thin mica]

i guess its cause zzz have actual world ender character.
While genshin u have 4 or 5 god but they cant even protect...a world.

i meant like zhangli & the other 4. i forgot their term.

[fading sundial]

Are there profile reviews on YT yet? Kind of want to try and reference some Edgar stuff but not at home for that.

[fading sundial]

Archons?

[vale beacon]

For hoyoverse games powerscale, would be

1. HSR(multiversal)
2. HI3(multiversal)
3. ZZZ(planetary i think)
4. Genshin(planetary that is unless it's connected to HSR)
   I think NTE would be around ZZZ or a little less

[cold totem]

Damn i just read chiz lore

She got the most tragic background in the game

[wispy zephyr]

omg the sending money back to her family part really hits

and feeling so alone in a new city with barely anyone to really on

also fun that she plays into themes of the cat and the mouse

[cold totem]

It's crazy that she hunted and ate anomalies as a kid

All the bandages on her are scars from hunting

[vale beacon]

I think she also ate anomalies to not starve

[cold totem]

And she'd hunt them in the sewers

😭

Wait so are Apocha rats

[empty jackal]

wait where can you read the backstories?

[vale beacon]

Character profile

[empty jackal]

Oh ic. Tysm

[cold totem]

Bro whats more sad is her mom sold her as a slave

And she doesnt even know it

[high plinth]

how?

[vale beacon]

Make sure to always give chiz daily pats and hugs

[fading sundial]

Was it? I thought it was just sending off because they don't like Anomalies at their home?

[high plinth]

her mum sent her abroad because she's an esper and espers were seen as dangerous

[high plinth]

they obviously do like anomalies at their home

[cold totem]

They were broke and in poverty, they didnt have money to send her away on a boat

[high plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/gourmet-shit-tasty-pulp-fiction-gif-15462357

[cold totem]

Her mom has no connections, how do u think she got on that boat

[wispy zephyr]

im pretty sure it was her mom sending her off to live a potentially better life

since she had opportunity to make money being an esper

[high plinth]

specified that basically all the money they had went into that

[cold totem]

Except the boat had other kids with esper abilities

And they were together

[high plinth]

boat had people of all backgrounds?

[wispy zephyr]

this could be a smuggling service that is done

[cold totem]

Oh ur right could be

[wispy zephyr]

chiz for all sakes and purposes is an immigrants who was tasked to live a life in heatherau to become her family’s breadwinner

[high plinth]

"some were espers like her" brother is onto NOTHING

[cold totem]

Alright I was wrong

I forgot the 2nd page

[high plinth]

it's alright i only expect a small monetary compensation

for my troubles

[cold totem]

💰

[fading sundial]

Honestly even then considering they don't respond to her, who's to say the money even makes it that far out.

One of her other profile bits somewhere talks about how hard getting messages let alone money to that area can be.

[high plinth]

you made me open the game up after all

[wispy zephyr]

oh for sure, maybe she is just sending off a portion of her money as a symbolic gesture

or is holding onto false hope, like her siblings were actively starving chances are some died

[fading sundial]

Btw what were the names of Cheese's coworkers she's friends with? I don't know if that was from a city hangout convo or one of her Profile things.

[high plinth]

theory: chiz is a balkan immigrant living in new hethereau (berlin) and works in PPB specifically to afford a BMW

[high plinth]

Mayu, Haruna, Grace

[cold totem]

Chiz lore probably hinting at another continent far away filled with only anomalies

[high plinth]

it'd be really cool to see it in the future

specially seeing how she wants to go back

[cold totem]

She's free a6a5 so has to be important

I think we are going to go back with her

[fading sundial]

The fact that anomalies can be eaten is honestly kind of weird.

Side note: isn't that a whole issue? That hanging around Anomalies can cause some people to suffer issues of some kind?

[high plinth]

on one hand you will starve but on the other hand you will suffer the side effects of prolonged anomaly exposure and your wertheimer index will go up and you may develop an esper

[cold totem]

Also her dps being crazy high and above the meta.. I think shes a character from 2.0 possibly

Lore might not drop for a good year or 2

[vale beacon]

Die now or possibly die later

[high plinth]

for the record, to be a little nerd it isn't specified if her home is in another continent, in the same country, if countries even exist, etc

basically she comes from god knows where

[cold totem]

That sounds really far

[high plinth]

yeah

1.1 stream coming in a few days

keep your eyes peeled and your ears open because it smells of new spinoff at the VERY LEAST

[fading sundial]

Spinoff?

[cold totem]

Might be garden story

[high plinth]

nte equivalent to a world quest

[cold totem]

Daffodil on front page

[cold totem]

Could that be the garden mother

[high plinth]

what is the garden

oh the perfect garden A.K.A. scarlet letter

@main plank

there is 0 way she isn't becoming playable

[cold totem]

Yeah

[thick ibex]

👀

[cold totem]

Same neck?

[fading sundial]

If there was an aquarium in Hethereau, do y'all think it'd be Bridge Crossing side or New Herland?

[zinc root]

its literally not

[subtle rock]

Prob in new areas imo

IN the first dev trailer of the game, it was mentioned even an zoologic

[junior hare]

|| THAT FIGHT WITH ZANKOU GOES CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ||

[violet burrow]

bruh i thought the porsche dealership was a place u had to glitch to like the one island outside of the map. didnt know it was already here

in wish they put the same amount off effort into their own cars and not just the collabs

[main plank]

Let Zankou and Daffodill be sisters again 🙏

[vale beacon]

<@&1224197309919920159>

[high plinth]

LMAO two simultaneous ones 😭

what are the chances XD

[vale beacon]

Probably in future

Also there will only be 1 porche car?

[violet burrow]

yea the 918 spyder. can see any other model and havent heard anywhere of a different model

[vale beacon]

I prefer LaVelox looks more

[violet burrow]

yea its based if the la ferrari. its also my fav in the game. ill buy it before the pendragon

[vale beacon]

But it's gonna get powercrept in racing by pendragon T.T

[violet burrow]

the performance between them are very similar. the pendragon only goes like 2 kmh faster while ur driving. the speed on paper is lying

[vale beacon]

But it says it has 9 in acceleration instead of 8 of LaVelox

[violet burrow]

drive them. u will see what im talking about

[vale beacon]

Well it also depends on the mods available

[violet burrow]

pretty sure pendragon only has tires and drift mod

[vale beacon]

Also why pursuit feels like a brick

[vale beacon]

Just test drove both, The max speed is more or less the same but pendragon feels more stable

[violet burrow]

yea when both are on stock wheels. other players have said that the lavelox has better handling with better tires

[vale beacon]

LaVelox seems to be better for drifting

[violet burrow]

maybe. pendragon has drift mod but lavelox doesnt

[vale beacon]

I see, too bad the game doesn't let you test out mods or let you see them

[inner cape]

Yo is chapter 4 the last story chapter or are we getting more? I was just getting into it

[violet burrow]

NTE is live service so ofc we will get more

[main plank]

It's the last for now
We'll get more in version 1.1 (June 3)

[inner cape]

Ah alright im in love with this game already one of my favorites

I actually cried during chapter 4 near the end

[main plank]

Yeah chapter 4 was peak
BTW did you find the optional epilogue?

[inner cape]

HUH what no? How

[vale beacon]

There's an extra little cutscene at the tree

[main plank]

It's at the cherry tree, you have to look around and examine something on one of the roots

[inner cape]

Alr im going there now

[vale beacon]

Does anyone know what's written here?

[inner cape]

Its beautiful 🥲

[violet burrow]

i dont think anything except the top 2 characters are actually real.

[vale beacon]

[inner cape]

Im still annoyed i missed out on nanally

[main plank]

True
Also, Zankou best girl amirite???

[inner cape]

Jiuyaun best girl

[main plank]

She's good too

[inner cape]

I want nanally😩

Y’know what’s funny i didn’t even know what a gatcha was before i played this game

[high plinth]

looks like a fictional mix of hebrew and katakana

[vale beacon]

One of the fastest car in the game

[high plinth]

police cruisers usually are very potent

in countries like USA they're goddang sleepers most of the time

come with more powerful engines and fortified suspensions and drivetrains out of the factory

[violet burrow]

that looks interesting. i wonder if that will be a location in the future. looks like a bomb or astroid made that honestly

[high plinth]

american police cars basically didn't have engines smaller than 350 cubic inches

amazing

[vale beacon]

Possibly

[vale beacon]

In the game the police car looks like the starter car

[high plinth]

Yeah it’s a modified c2000

[fading sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/sky-kimionawa-your-name-anime-gif-17883443

[queen heron]

Hello, I want to make friends 214282700395

[violet burrow]

thinking about it, kirumaru gotta have like insane durability with how sakiri be man handling him😂

swinging him around at mach 10 and jumping on top of him and stuff

[fossil cradle]

It can eat basically anything, I think it's basically just a living sack

Also it deserves it

[violet burrow]

kirumaru needs to lock in. sakiri is gonna grow older and become a better anomoly hunter. cant have him slackin and holding things back

[hazy inlet]

He’s goated tbh

[violet burrow]

need a adult SP sakiri. moveset will definitely be amazing

[thin mica]

Sakari?

[violet burrow]

yea

sakiri

[thin mica]

I am still confused with renee story…..so did the family hate or not hate her? Excluding the mom

[violet burrow]

dont think they hated her. pretty sure that was just bella gaslighting people

[thin mica]

I dont think they hate her.
Could be gaslighting but also could be partially true.

[violet burrow]

i dont even think we can even trust anything bella said but from what we have seen, renee was a little brat with she was a kid. IF its actually how it played out then i dont doubt that they hated her

why does she have milk😂.

oh ok. is that the art from the standard banner. makes sense then

i though gemini just randomly added milk

[pure raven]

Yes, i just told Gemini makes Sakiri being 18, and sexy 😂😂😂

[violet burrow]

now gemini gotta do edgar, haniel, and nanally

[pure raven]

Alright, let me have smoke and drink my coffee, i make them in some minute 😄

[violet burrow]

ehh only good one is nanally. im in chatgpt rn cause gemini wants me to do a bunch of stuff before i can ask it anything

[pure raven]

Gemini makes good works same as free and paid version for picture work 😄

[violet burrow]

nah it makes me download a app and i dont want to download anything

[pure raven]

Web gemini works too 😄

[violet burrow]

ill have to look. i just looked up gemini on google

[pure raven]

I’m using ultra version by my work

[lunar frigate]

uhhh..

[pure raven]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[lunar frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1456814805594931210/1485427661927874601/attachment.gif

[past sonnet]

is Nanally a cat or a tiger?

[gloomy heron]

Tigers are big cats

[high plinth]

They literally are big cats tho

[past sonnet]

really BIG cats

[high plinth]

By all means and purposes however, nanally is neither a (house)cat nor a tiger

She is what we in the business call a “human being”

[blazing helm]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-box-looking-play-gif-16368630

[proper copper]

or you wanna mention as a hybrid thingy?

[past sonnet]

yeah, it's her esper ability that change her appearance

[pure raven]

Nanally is a human-cat with a mistaken identity, let's call her LMBTCAT.

[past sonnet]

[high plinth]

It would be something like Human (98.75%) cat (rest)

She grew a tail and ears because of magic esper bullshitery it’s not like her DNA has changed

[past sonnet]

poor Skia, he became 90% furry

[high plinth]

Besides I doubt her ears and tail even work

She still has her human ears (if you want to trust that her trailer doesn’t have any chara design errors)

[past sonnet]

but this was before she gets the cat traits, maybe her human ear is gone now

sad that we dont have any quest showing a character awakening his esper ability, i want to know how it works

[high plinth]

Don’t worry as I took that into account 😎

Hence the “trailer character design error part”

You can see the ears here. They’re covered in hair in every single other art or ingame though

[past sonnet]

i see

[violet burrow]

she can move her ears and tail so its not crazy to think that they do work. if she can move her tail then it works

[past sonnet]

and all the "WHAT'S THAT SMELL? SMELL AMAZING" make me think her nose is perceptive as cat's nose

[violet burrow]

actually these changes should work because mint has very good sense of smell

[violet burrow]

yea i was about to say that.

[high plinth]

her nose looks identical to a human nose tho

then again wtf do i know about human vs cat biology

[pallid ether]

do characters file have anything on their esper ability other than the name?

[high plinth]

some files mention the esper ability but most don't

[high plinth]

apparently what matters is the ofactory epithelium

[pallid ether]

fat shame on that

[high plinth]

files may get updated in the future with more information

[fading sundial]

For what it's worth, Mint also operates off scents.

[cold totem]

Look at daffodils eyes

[tame marsh]

frame perfect kiroumaru

[eternal light]

can someone explain hospital anomaly lore

[tardy grotto]

thats interesting, im curious now too

[covert sinew]

Thinking about Taygedo's power, he have huge potential to do some Lego movie master builder type of move

https://tenor.com/view/lego-movie-lego-movie-master-builder-master-builder-deeeepio-deepcord-gif-6988311408451900939

Hopefully Hotta not sleeping on his potential, it could be badass lowkey

[high plinth]

please hotta sleep on his potential 🙏🏼

[last kelp]

Taygedo can make gold bricks from almost anything he can get his hands on. Why do you think Hotori keeps him around?

[high plinth]

what was taygedo's ability again

[last kelp]

Deconstruction and reconstruction, as per Adler's words.

Probably not fine tuned to properly do as intended.

But remember that a real diamond was created from Imagindough.

So, pretty much an alchemist.

If Taygedo knew what any of the Gundams looked like, can probably turn a normal car into one.

[high plinth]

alchemy is turning one substance into the other

if he created a diamond, by simply using his ability to extract carbon from wherever and arranging it into the diamond cubic cristal structure it isn't alchemy

[last kelp]

Idk what Imagindough is made of but yeah...

[high plinth]

issue is that creating these sorts of structures releases a whole ton of energy when the atoms are settling into much more stable states

[last kelp]

Turned one of those goo toys into a diamond.

[high plinth]

see my theory is that if taygedo were to actually do a bit of alchemy he'd incur the wrath of some anomaly like the debt collector

[tall gale]

appearance illusion
it can looked like a diamond, but it's still as squishy as a dough

[high plinth]

alchemy is anti-natural in practice

[somber depot]

my only question about Tageydo's ability is how he's able to create life at all (Even if it is primitive)
I thought he was only limited to game-themed things and manipulating inanimate anomalies

[humble stirrup]

If you get some power ur body change no ?

[high plinth]

if you know how a living being works you can theoretically replicate it

[somber depot]

but it would be interesting if Tageydo somehow played into some confrontation between Scarlet Letter and Eibon

[last kelp]

Some Espers have no physical changes, others do.

A loading screen blurb explains this.

[somber depot]

I mean that's how we end up with kenomimis and other espers that resemble oni
and some just resemble anthro at this point

I do wonder how drastic this "physical change" can go

like
what if the esper becomes like those anomaly enemies we fight

but still retains lots of control

[last kelp]

From normal human with powers to possibly Eldritch Abomination with reality manipulation at will.

Maybe you'll become Cthulu.

The possibilities are endless to say the least.

[somber depot]

honestly I do hope we get a esper that's a hive-mind that tries to keep theirself (themselves?) together
or just something akin to some designs like in Reverse:1999

at least something that's more vaguely humanoid rather than most of the designs we have atm

I know hotta will play it safe but I hope they try to do more interesting things in the future with espers

[high plinth]

apparently Chaos is lakshana, so I've theorized that his esper involves his dog being part of his body, an extension of himself that he can control at will kinda like a hive mind

[last kelp]

So, someone with Schizophrenia but their personalities have different bodies?

[somber depot]

well less about that and moreso their consciousness is a hivemind over many units

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Spiders-Man_(Earth-11580)

[last kelp]

So, like Brainiac?

[somber depot]

ig

but by "units" I'm thinking like many smaller things instead of multiple bodies

again, spiders-man (yes that is a marvel comics character) is what I am thinking of for this concept

[high plinth]

i have a similar idea

imagine 3 triplets that obtain 3 simultaneous complementing esper abilities that generate a hive mind between the three

they still hold a degree of autonomy

i doubt you're ever going to see anything like this or what you said ingame

at most a character that can take control of shit like puppets idk

[somber depot]

I know
hotta is hotta
I doubt they'll touch on more unique design until at least anniversary or something

[high plinth]

they've got a gold mine of interesting abilities

esper abilities have the potential to be as diverse as stand abilities

[covert sinew]

I think it gonna be Tako's role for that, since she said that she can make thing become life if she love the object enough. And she ia hinted to be appeared later in Edgar message after the Tagi quest epilogue

[warped flare]

Just fyi, schizophrenia isn't the duo personality disability, but a hallucination and delusion issue.
That being said, then I totally agree that a duo personality characters would be awesome!
Kinda like Sakiri has her little gluttonous 'friend', but taken to the extreme

[covert sinew]

It's so peak, he just need a little bit more training and tuning, and potential is endless, Hotori truely cooking so good

[high plinth]

why isn't the debt collector on her ass

creating life is very clearly blasphemous, against the laws of life, whatever logic the DC is following

[covert sinew]

Yeah I think we'll get more info when we leared more about Tako, it's still not much information of her aside of that for now

I'm interested as the nature of "life" that Tako is referring

[high plinth]

tako is very clearly a POI judging by the fact that Adler couldn't find her in any anomaly/oddity database

maybe a Scarlet letter asset?

[covert sinew]

Huge chance to be, it's what I think first aswell too

[high plinth]

it all makes sense

so THAT'S why taygedo's date is a MSQ

holy shit

#✏️┆nte-lore message

you didnt have to nullify your msg vro 😭

[merry cliff]

Oh sorry

[high plinth]

it's just a harmless question bro no shame in that

[merry cliff]

||so why does she have to leave hetherau tho?||

[covert sinew]

Yeah it pretty much my thought aswell, people complain about Tagi's quest should be side while pawn moonshop to be of main story instead
I'm trying to make sense of it as why and Tagi's quest being a prologue to prepare Tako as something big is prob the most probable of it
definitely something big since we talking about creating life which is a very huge thing as an oddity power.

[high plinth]

tbh any reveal that it was all information gathering from scarlet letter/perfect garden to use tagido's power for whatever purpose doesn't really make up for the fact that MSQ2 is a nothingburger in terms of things actually happening,

[covert sinew]

Yeah, I can see the complaint very well

[high plinth]

depends on how they do the reveal

christ, brother, i cant believe i didnt realize this before tbh

of course tako is going to have relevance in the story later

theyre gonna make tagido build some doomsday anomaly and tako will give it life

it fits together

[covert sinew]

A weapon to surpass Metal Gear indeed

[vale beacon]

You talking about renee? There's a little cutscene you can watch near the tree at one of the roots

[eternal river]

There are multiple things sus about Tako. In the first place I thought she is not an oddity but remotely controlled puppet and was expecting some reveal along the lines, so I would say the quest ended a bit... unsatisfyingly

like wdym she just went away and sent Adler a card? Come on

[fossil cradle]

it's a main quest because there's definitely something way more important there, it's just that it was dropped in there with like a single line of dialogue from edgar at the end iirc

[high plinth]

they gonna make tagido build gypsy danger eva unit-01 super tengen toppa gurren lagann 😭

[covert sinew]

https://giphy.com/gifs/transformers-prime-optimus-EQJRvxKWF8vOyscAAJ

Truly absolute cinema

[covert sinew]

Edgar said on message after you done the quest that they didnt found any info about Tako ability at all, she's hinted to be much more important figure in the future definitely

[eternal river]

I expect Tako to be an introduction to Ellie the Puppeteer, they definitely been pushing Ellie's background narrative so far

[high plinth]

who tf is ellie

[fallow ocean]

The puppeteer

[safe lodge]

I just assumed everything toageio lied about was true for her cus tropes

[safe lodge]

Context?

[vale beacon]

The second richest person after giovanni

[high plinth]

thought her name sounded similar

she's the lass from the funny toys scattered around the show

[eternal river]

bruh, eat more chocolate. Play some gacha. Ellie is everywhere 🥀

[eternal river]

wdym? Tako said she can make toys become alive -> basically puppeteers ability (Also Tako easily speaking multiple languages sus, since we know oddities have a lot of difficulty speaking even a single human language). Ellie has been discussed in AH quest (one of the NPC dialogues), Ellie was featured in Tomato sidequest. Not to mention all the fuss around puppets in-game.

[spare sparrow]

Hey all. Is it just me or is there like no lore on esper zero ? I think I only found lore on Zero during the tutorial and day off hidden mission

[vale beacon]

Currently most lore is about the city and various other characters, maybe in 1.1 there would be a little more

[gray pilot]

When you have an amnesiac character, i doubt they would put something groundbreaking immediately or if they did add, it would only make sense in the future updates. Besides, since one of the biggest aspect of the game is about City Life, it would make sense that they add lore to the city and character first to entice players about Life in Heterau

[vale beacon]

Just noticed gifting high rarity gifts its waste of fons

[main plank]

It's a trade-off. You raise their bond level faster, but it's less Fons-efficient

[vale beacon]

Not really, some purple/yellow items and green items gives the same number of affection

A few exceptions i saw are the seashell, the cloud, and ellie doll

[spare sparrow]

I hope so.

[spare sparrow]

And the weird thing is they make Esper Zero have no intention or motivation to find out their history or at least what is he? If I lost my memory , the important is finding what is my name atleast

[wide ridge]

Maybe he has no memory cus he was born yesterday?

[wheat sluice]

So, are people like Nanally, Mint, Sakiri etc etc anomalies? Or are demihumans just normal in this world?

[eternal river]

the game suggests they transformed through the similar process anomalies appear from

[wheat sluice]

Ok, thank you for that info.

It must be somewhat common since they have entire care products specifically made for certain types, like the tail-care sprays.

Also, if you spray Mint's tail-care spray in her face in her apartment interaction she gets upset 🤣

[eternal river]

supposedly that's just pet spray that Mint buys

Mint just not very bright you see

[covert sinew]

Oooh the Tako speaking multiple language went over my head, that's made sense, I too focused on Rabbi I forgot that most oddity have difficulty speaking human language

[tame marten]

"Taygedo! Tayge!"
This TV otter speak is just his name

[covert sinew]

Barra aswell, so far only 2 of those that speak by repeating their name, other oddity not voiced so I have no idea how most of them speak

[upper nimbus]

She's cute and that's what matters

[tame marten]

Maybe the same like Taygedo does. Since Barra or idk his name, can assume same as Taygedo speak

also would it be great if MC has more voicelines in battle for Eibon faction

[eternal river]

https://tenor.com/view/nte-neverness-to-everness-nte-mint-neverness-to-everness-mint-mint-agree-gif-11729208365137319107

[wide ridge]

I did found this:
https://youtu.be/UKYpXdgBbQo?t=719&si=cFFkS9FnjAeyHed1

[dense cosmos]

To be fair Zero is a much better protagonist compared to the other gacha Main Characters.

There are at least some personality instead of "blank slate you are the character"

[burnt pagoda]

Yeah... And finally a MC that isnt denser than lead (well, sometimes Zero is, but at least not always)

[dense cosmos]

He is aware he is being hitted on sometimes. Or in some cases close of getting violently snu snu by Fadia

[wide ridge]

Imagine if Fadia actually gets to snu snu him.

[dense cosmos]

Death.

I mean she was basically part of a death cult.

[latent lance]

is that the cost of her esper

[gray pilot]

Well, BAC doesnt have a clue who Zero is, Sterry doesnt have it either and i doubt you can just ask Zankou about it lol. You cant just scour the entire world in one go. And besides, despite the freedom he has now. He is still more or less a "prisoner in a parole" with Hotori and the Squirel Anomaly who is basically 24/7 with him.

The Anomaly connected to him is a big deal, so waiting works for him as well. He has a contract with BAC as well... Might as well enjoy what he has.

[dense cosmos]

To be fair they are treating them better than just some parole prisoner.

Either that or they just want to not accidentally trigger some sort of scenario where it could he related to the New Helios event.

Born with it or get a triggered

Espers are humans but at a cost of sacrificing something

[gray pilot]

Yeah this too

Like why not enjoy his 24million fon worth of properties xD

I mean since anomalies are created due to a lot of things including the human psyche...maybe Esper powers are like stands in jojo... Where they are manifestation of oneself.

[quaint cliff]

so skia is furry deep in his heart

[latent lance]

baicang is a flower

[dense cosmos]

Baicang likely able to communicate with flowers because I believe he did a contract

[fossil cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/itsaliving-flintstones-flinstones-squawk-whatever-gif-23412047

It's less parole or even surveillance and more just examination

Frankly, they might be banking on code zero just coming back for zero, public safety be damned

[zinc condor]

true

[fossil cradle]

Is lacrimosa a tomato

[dense cosmos]

Nah then it would be cannibalizing

Basically a Bat that eats Tomatoes

[fossil cradle]

You are what you eat

[dense cosmos]

I find it funny they mad a side quest just to have deeper lore for a Anomally DMV

[fossil cradle]

Hope we get a side quest about mr.box

[dense cosmos]

But he is normal

Not a Anomaly

He said so himself

[quaint cliff]

so what is he some kind of normally

[fossil cradle]

The nominally

[dense cosmos]

Curse you gifs

[gray pilot]

Chupa is pretty much a surveillance camera for Alphard and Zero is require to be with Chupa 24/7 iirc.

They dont trust Zero enough to be in BAC and had to put em in Eibon.

[fossil cradle]

They don't want ground zero in the office when something goes down

[quaint cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[gray pilot]

Eitherway, he still in surveillance

[spare sparrow]

Good point

[latent lance]

gotta beat up those pesky normalities for their wallets

[dense cosmos]

We need more Ms. Fei. Her insults are amazing

[quaint cliff]

yk what i need? i need alphard

[storm fractal]

Perhaps later down the line when Zero is trusted enough, we will be in ETD group and finally encounter more dangerous anomalies in actual storyline. Trust

[fossil cradle]

They don't want us to be coworkers with mint

[high plinth]

for us to be coworkers both of us would have to work

mint too incompetent

[fringe geode]

huge might be lore related no clue as of yet but why does the female version of zero have a goatskull under her skirt?!?

[fossil cradle]

Heaven forbid a girl have hobbies

[fringe geode]

so.... satanism?😉

would send ss but im not sure if that falls under nsfw even though it shows nothing

update not goat skull but a star

[torn vale]

Does this guy have a quest/and is he in the game yet? Was fishing and noticed I’ve never seen him

[wispy zephyr]

Settyn is the guy from the ebisu action, I won’t say much about him if you haven’t done the quest but he is a celebrity we have to “borrow” from

[torn vale]

OHHH it’s the guy from the bike scene right?? Okay nvm I remember now LOL

[wispy zephyr]

yea lol, hilarious ass cutscene

[plucky adder]

Yo chat is this game coming on Xbox??

[high plinth]

I don’t think satanism counts as nsfw

Maybe the like sects of satanism that do group org and human sacrifices

[violet burrow]

as of rn NTE doesnt have any major immediate threats or conflicts that need to be worried about. Zero is probably just living life as a normalish anomoly hunter in eibon. when things get more serious, zero might lock in and start digging for stuff

[fringe geode]

tis a star

[high plinth]

How was the first thing thst came to your mind a goat’s skull lil brother 😭

[fossil cradle]

Isn't that just the same logo as her tie

[warped flare]

Yeps, that's the same logo.
Made me look at the neck area of all the other characters, and it seems to actually be a theme, that almost all of the characters have some kind of logo there symbolizing some part of their story / kit

[fossil cradle]

I know zero just showed up wearing that, but who sells matching tie and panty sets

[warped flare]

Hugo Boss was the first that came to my mind Life is weird

[high plinth]

surprised that not more people use male zero

[remote siren]

anyone know why only sakiri and adler have "contract" in their esper info?

[high plinth]

incantation type espers

[warped flare]

Cause they aren't using their 'own' esper abilities persay

[remote siren]

so
if sakiri summons that thingy of hers, than adler summons .... his armor if I understood correctly?

[teal rain]

yeah skairi using the anomaly to fight

[teal rain]

i dont think she summons it, it just there mhm

[tall gale]

his deers

they even have names

[teal rain]

this will maybe also implied lingko might have a contract as well with the tv ghost

[zinc goblet]

adler has his armor called The Enlighment who is a kind of artifact, that houses 5 sunyas each one of them representing some kind of sense like taste, smell or smth like it, thats why he can perceive his surroundings even tho he is blind, and basically the sunyas said "hmm this guy?" "yeah i think its this one" and shablow they are friends

this is an oversimplification of sm kind

[high plinth]

can a mf read the pic i sent 💔

[teal rain]

we see it

im just saying how linkgo will most likely be an incantation with the tv ghost

and maybe exe as well

[zinc goblet]

and sakiri if im not mistaken was kinda of merged? whit kinroumarou? like its kinda of weird but she says some stuff about that on her profile voice lines, its some kind of processes that i coulnd find in the index but a person can merge whit an anomaly or an anomaly merging whit a person, u can see that around the city like telephone booths and trash cans "eating" people, but on those cases the anomaly are "stronger" and the person just dies, but on sakiri case she came on top thats why kinroumarou acts like her pet from what i got

[fossil cradle]

I think those trash cans just eat people and that's that

[zinc goblet]

like sakiri lore is a big mist bc we get some stuff foreshadowed but its not clearly told what exactly happend, there was some people saying she was a human experiment that got out of some kind of clinic but we dont get much info

[warped flare]

On note of the character design convos we've had in here multiple times too..
Then I do wonder what the story is around her hat and the golden medallion on top of it

[zinc goblet]

maybe?

i wanted to find the index which says about this process because she mentions the name of it but im too lazy to open the game rn

[violet burrow]

i mean sakiri has lots of clips and stickers on her clothes and stuff. could be important or could just be another clip like the other 30 on her outfit

[zinc goblet]

honestly i never noticed that one on the hat i was thinking it was just that

[warped flare]

She actually does. Just found it after reading your message:

[zinc goblet]

hmm damn

YEAH DISQUALIFIED SPAWN YEAH YEAH

[warped flare]

The rest of the message

[zinc goblet]

idk but the more i think about it, more this kinda of makes sense

she knows that nursery home poet too but like idk hm we are going to see more that in the future prob

[warped flare]

Reading through these made me realize I dont actually know what powers Kiroumaru has exactly

Apparently he has a "Memory Correction Technique", whatever that means XD

[violet burrow]

could be something with his ability to consume things. theres a high chance its not limited to physical things and depending on how you take that sentence, he might be able to consume ur memory and remove it from you perma

[warped flare]

[violet burrow]

he seems to be related to gluttony and that means he could have a HUGE power spike in the future if hotta goes that route

[warped flare]

Would love to see it!
Thinking about some of the other Esper abilities we've seen, then we do have quite the powerfull cast actually already, with some straight up TERRIFYING esper abilities

[violet burrow]

fr. thats why im curious about a adult sakiri and how strong she could possible be. i really like her moveset rn so it could be really cool when its enhanced

[eternal river]

bro has a ton of powers, alternate dimension, local gravity manipulation. I am not surprised he is in the restricted section of the library

[violet burrow]

he has lots of potential but hes only listed as a class 2 anomoly. maybe cause hes so dumb he cant utilized his powers in a way that would rank him higher. or maybe he hasnt shown them off enough to be ranked higher

[warped flare]

Yes please.

[violet burrow]

oh wait no he doesnt have a listed class

i musted thought of a different anomoly

[warped flare]

Must have been this loveable little guy

[violet burrow]

it does say his stuff is classified. could be hotta trying to hide lore with how secretive sakiri is or there is actually some cool stuff hidden.

[violet burrow]

yea probably

[warped flare]

Wait wait wait...
That freaking Hamster Ball is Class FIVE!?

[fossil cradle]

Cheek pouch op

[eternal river]

nah, it's fine. I gave Sakiri ice-cream, we rode ferris wheel, and I helped Kiromarou regurgitate. We basically forever bros, so if anything goes wild we would know first cause we are frens

[wispy zephyr]

kiroumaru is the goat

[violet burrow]

maybe in 1.1 or 1.2, she will start spilling the beans

[wispy zephyr]

Quite literally at times

[eternal river]

not hamster ball, but whatever he pupated from

[warped flare]

Yeah, I'm slowly reading through that.
Quite interesting actually!
Another "Mother" has entered the room

[eternal river]

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole containment floor in BAC is Cheek Pouch

[wispy zephyr]

oooo what if it’s a Midas technologies creation

[warped flare]

I do wonder why we specifically have to unlock Hathor to get the Hamster Ball though. Might be some story between "Mother" and Hathor 🤔

[eternal river]

nah, Midas looks like a separate beast

[eternal river]

I wouldn't dig this deep, they probably just wanted to make Hathor more useful

[wispy zephyr]

yea fair, would be neat if there is a connection research wise

[violet burrow]

got love the huge weapon manufacturing mega corp

[warped flare]

Could very easily be the case too xD

A Hamster Ball does seem quite convenient for a delivery service too

[wispy zephyr]

Gotta love how the public gets access as well 🤩

Equal opportunity weapons distribution

[eternal river]

welp, not KKona, since you need to be an esper to use Arcs

[wispy zephyr]

hmm this says anomaly hunters, and yes an overwhelming majority of anomaly hunters are espérs it doesn’t seem exclusive

[warped flare]

Found her use of it, and was right that it's purely for transportation usage 🤣 U were right that I read too much into it in the beginning

[wispy zephyr]

I just thought the creation of arcs was a esper unique technique, but it’s powered by anomalies

though maybe the generalization of anomaly hunters equals espeer is just common convention in game

[eternal river]

eh, there should be some Glossary entry that says that you need to have esper abilities to power it on, but it is some small entry

[wispy zephyr]

ah that makes sense, probably glosses over that

trying to remember what else midas reception lady said about the commercial and public use of arcs

[remote siren]

thank u

[remote siren]

I read yes, thank u

[eternal river]

bro registered to ask this Next time I should also be like: who the hell is Calvin Klein and why he signed my besties panties?

[proven tiger]

like how did bro even notice that

[cold totem]

Nanally has 2 on hers

On the front and back

[vale beacon]

Looks like BAC symbol 🤔

[rare birch]

are all playable characters espers?

[vale beacon]

Yes

[warped flare]

For auguments sake, our MC might not be, considering our Wertheimer Index score of 0.
We might be something else entirely, considering how we first showed up when the "rift" dubbed "Hypervortex" opened up.
It is said in the Index, that it is believed that the Hypervortex was caused by a clash of two different worlds / space / region, and that the world that opened up "(...) operates on a completely different logic".
So if we are to presume we were 'brought' into this world we're playing in rn, from that other world beyond the Hypervortex, we might not be Espers, but something else completely

[violet burrow]

if i remember correctly, its not 0. MC doesnt even show up on the scale

[warped flare]

That's a great point actually! Which only brings us closer to us being something else than an 'Esper' as we know it

[warped flare]

Love this part of the Hypervortex Index

[proven tiger]

why is daffodill s eyesight bad?

[violet burrow]

price for obtaining her esper powers

[rare birch]

.... 😵‍💫 ...

[proven tiger]

oof

[warped flare]

Yeeah.. Sry XD

[violet burrow]

atleast she has powers unlike the millions of people irl that need glasses and are still weak little humans

[warped flare]

There's quite a lot of lore already for it only being 1.0

[proven tiger]

i feel targeted now

[violet burrow]

i have glasses too. i wish i had powers to compensate

[eternal river]

yes, we are.... GAMERS

[proven tiger]

tru

[warped flare]

Soo.. Since the only character with glasses we have in the game is Fadia, does that mean that all people with glasses go around acting like her too? 🤣 jkjk

[proven tiger]

wait doesnt nanally have glasses?

[violet burrow]

adler has glasses too. not like they help him since hes blind. it was a gift from nanally

[warped flare]

Shit you're right.
Who would u prefer to be? XD

[proven tiger]

interesting question

i think nanally, cause she has like a happy story so far

[eternal river]

none unfortunately

[proven tiger]

daffodill have much cooler powers, but i rather have less cool powers and actually be able to see and b happy ngl