✏️┆nte-lore

[weak monolith]

the building in this screenshot definitely reminded me a lot of the expedition 33 mansion

[thorn field]

Done just now yes i know f her

We don't know if zero is good or evil same as the twins in genshin

[high plinth]

Ok but have you taken into consideration

The fact that she’s hot?

[thorn field]

Yes

[main plank]

f Zankou? yeah I would

[naive sorrel]

damn...what...

[high plinth]

Zankou is already forgiven in my eyes

Plus renee should be thankful to her for leading her back to her old home and her memories

And riding her of her burdensome immortality

All’s well that ends well after all

[main plank]

true
Zankou did literally nothing wrong
(please ignore ||Zankou trying to kill a helpless Nanally in front of Daffodill just to screw with her||)

[high plinth]

That’s water under the bridge now

[main plank]

yep, no one died so it's all good. 100% still eligible for redemption and a happy ending

[thorn field]

Devs love booba

[broken siren]

but now im bleu

[main plank]

and so do I 🤤

[high plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304540031980933201/1503036178079682632/nanari_drink.GIF

We should all forgive zankou in the interests of reconciliation 😇

https://tenor.com/view/soyjak-wojak-happy-smile-billions-must-smile-gif-7028195092072751172

[main plank]

Daffodill and Zankou are going to hug it out and become sisters again, it'll be so sweet, trust me bro

[rare birch]

Do we have to put spoiler warnings here?

[broken siren]

nooo

[main plank]

I don't think this server has any rules against spoilers rn, except that CN spoilers should only go in the CN channels
this is the lore channel, and the patch has been out for weeks... even in servers with spoiler policies that would mean spoiler tags aren't needed

[broken siren]

noo she is lyinggg, once it hits 9:00 it is over there is no more timee to travel the world

[rare birch]

Alr so question:
is Bella really related to Renee or was that just gaslighting?

[wide ridge]

Where is CN spoilers?

[broken siren]

did u finish the quest

[high plinth]

No

[main plank]

Bella is the name of Renee's oldest sister
Zankou was posing as her to gaslight Renee

[high plinth]

It’s not like theres much to spoil anyway

If we spoiled the ending of story chapter 4 at most you’re missing out on a couple hours of intrigue

[broken siren]

Zankou had 100 IQ for trying to put extra letters to put "betrayer" I would be gaslit also due to how pretty- i mean

[main plank]

Zankou can absolutely gaslight me any day

[hardy scaffold]

am i allowed in here or is there a spoiler ?

[high plinth]

Zankou could gaslight me into thinking she’s part of my life or whatever and I’d be like “yes ma’am🫡”

[main plank]

there are spoilers all over the place so stay out if you haven't completed the Renee quest yet

[high plinth]

Nope. Back to #🎶┆nte-chat with you

[hardy scaffold]

i finished that but arent there like a manga or smth for nte thats what im asking

[main plank]

no, once you've done all the quests, that's all the story for now

[hardy scaffold]

ohh cuz i seen some edit about hotori and adler thought its some kinda anime or anything they had thats why i was tryna avoid this channel

is that a side quest ?

[main plank]

oh, the Hotori animated PV? You can find that, and some others, on NTE's Youtube channel

[hardy scaffold]

is that included with the story or some fanart thing ?

[main plank]

it's official, if that's what you're asking. It's on the official NTE channel, after all

[high plinth]

Game has hardly been out for 2 weeks

[hardy scaffold]

and will it be added ingame ?

[high plinth]

We’re likely going to have to wait a while until any official manga business

[high plinth]

Why would it be?

[hardy scaffold]

isnt it like so main quest or is it just subplot why wouldnt not be added since hottori is an important character in the game ?

[high plinth]

We’re likely gonna get more info on that yeah

[hardy scaffold]

cuz i dont wanna look for it if its gonna be added ingame later on

[main plank]

no, those kinds of things tend to stay on social media and not get added to the game
that's how every gacha I know of does it

[hardy scaffold]

sorry for all the questions 😭 but is the game an adaptation or smth cuz im actually confused 😭 besides its my first time playing gacha

[main plank]

no, the game story is the main story, it's not an adaptation or anything
those official videos are for marketing and for expanding a bit on the lore and characters

[hardy scaffold]

ohh okay thanksss

how much does it take for new main quest content

[main plank]

the next big patch is version 1.1, which will come out June 3

that will have more main story in it

[hardy scaffold]

more hotori quests i hope

[high plinth]

Don’t worry about the questions

There isn’t much to discuss either way here so it’s not like you’re interrupting anything

[main plank]

YES same, I love Hotori
Even if the next patch doesn't have much Hotori, we'll certainly get more Hotori content eventually. The auction house quest left so many unanswered questions about her, it's obvious there's going to be more to her story.

[hardy scaffold]

one thing i wanna get is why does baicang lose hp when he uses his dash/ult all i know is that it has weakend him after he helped that boy with vocal issues

[high plinth]

It keeps weakening him

[broken siren]

the jojo?

[hardy scaffold]

is that something that his ability does ?

[hardy scaffold]

huh ? no if you mean for the refrence

[hardy scaffold]

like it keeps weaking him

[high plinth]

you really gonna make me go through paragraphs of yap in his chara archive huh

[serene nacelle]

Yes! But I’m also very interested about her back story a lot. I feel like it’s very sad. I also wonder why she “sleeps” a lot. I doubt she’s actually sleeping tbh

[high plinth]

they dont say anything bruh

[hardy scaffold]

She sleeps/drink allat you can notice the painful life she had 😭

[warped flare]

<@&1224197309919920159>

[high plinth]

gonna pray my NTE framerate holds up while i have firefox, discord and a kalilinux VM open

why did it have to be UE5

[proven tiger]

Is the chains of blackbird only for design or does it seals powers or smthin?

[silver zealot]

Who want backstory of Esper Zero in the game

[high plinth]

who doesnt lmao

[proven tiger]

Do we know what are these espers? Are they like deities?

[eternal river]

No, but a lot of esper abilities are useless (or ppl didn't find a use for them), so average ppl consider espers just a curiosity

Very few espers are combat ready

[high plinth]

humans that derive powers more or less from the same source as anomalies according to homologation theory

they have to pay a price for their abilities which vary, and come in 6 categories, cosmos, chaos, lakshana, psyche, anima and incantation

[proven tiger]

Isnt eclipse an esper?

[high plinth]

anomaly gardening is a thing in NTE...

[high plinth]

who?

[vale beacon]

Eclipse is an anomaly

The golden glowing girl in M10

[proven tiger]

Oh wait so espers are just elements?

[vale beacon]

Espers are humans

With powers

[proven tiger]

Hmm

[high plinth]

Oh yeah, Eclipse is an anomaly with a contract with BAC who mostly administers the BAC main HQ as her domain

[vale beacon]

Esper and not anomaly?

I might have remembered wrong

[proven tiger]

Bro i dont understand sht ngl

[high plinth]

slip of the tongue

she is an anomaly, 100%, mb

[vale beacon]

Anomalies are everything that science can't explain that isn't human

[proven tiger]

All arcs are like anomalies no?

[high plinth]

distracted, because apparently anomalies can operate independently to create more of themselves...

[alpine peak]

Is there an explanation of why does adler have glasses?

[fading sundial]

That scenario specifically is anomaly, lowercase.

But yeah. Could be something fun down the line.

[scarlet oxide]

Nannally gifted them cause she thinks they look cool

[alpine peak]

Nanally knows ball

[proven tiger]

Bro am i the only one who is confused about the whole lady dolores investigation thing? I literally dont understand anything, please tell me im not the only one

[sick wasp]

Bad guys are the Scarlet Letter. They manipulated Renee to give up her gift.

[proven tiger]

Yeah but doesnt the gift makes people have no feelings or smthing?

Didnt the witch say that?

[eternal river]

well, the mainline story more or less explains the bulk of it, but you need to listen to ghosts and read notes to get the whole thing

[sick wasp]

It seemed more for Renee was that she was very forgetful.

[proven tiger]

Like why was renee special, what did she get? Also what was the curse?

[eternal river]

having no feelings is more attributed to owners being desensitized to mundane repeat, not that they lose the feelings themselves

[sick wasp]

The gift was protection from the "Debt Collector." In other words it was a gift(curse in theme of the story) of immortality.

[proven tiger]

But like why couldnt dolores just make more puppets with feelings?

[sick wasp]

The Debt Collector, supposedly, appeared after Renee gained life. I don't know how much of that scenario to trust since it was that one person's manipulation.

[proven tiger]

Hmm

[eternal river]

it's truthful, original Dolores notes corroborate this

Technically, the Debt Collector reappeared with Renee, because he was the cause of downfall of Constantine family in the first place before Dolores managed to misdirect it with the dolls before Renee

[proven tiger]

Why didnt they like just kill the debt collector, werent they like wealthy asf?

Like just hire 20 hunters

[eternal river]

it's unkillable, plus it requisited their wealth faster than they could accumulate it

[proven tiger]

Didnt we kill it tho?

[eternal river]

no

we delayed it for a single day two times in a row

[sick wasp]

Back when the Constatine family was around they didn't understand anomalies as well as now. They society thought they were witchcraft essentially.

[proven tiger]

Oh so she just died, ngl i just finished the story, so now i understand

Thats sadge

[eternal river]

hard to say

[sick wasp]

Renee isn't dead, yet.

[proven tiger]

She just said that she will be gone for a very long time, and said a goodbye

I mean

[sick wasp]

She said she is going to travel the world. Granted that could be a euphimism.

[proven tiger]

Maybe she went to the farm, where my animals went when i was a kis

[eternal river]

yeah, pretty much. It's heavily implied that she dies that evening. But there is also a possibility that Renee became an entity in two parts: the figurine that represents her old self, and human body that represents her new self. So the Debt collector kills her old self, while her human self lives normally

I would say it's like 70-80% probability she died and around 20% probability she lived from what we were given

Maybe devs want to see the reaction to Zankou to see if they want to make her playable and for that Renee likely needs to be alive

[proven tiger]

I dont think "changing" can evade the collector, cause then the collector wouldnt have attacked her after she lost the eye

[proven tiger]

Why is renee needed?

[eternal river]

it's easier to redeem Zankou if Renee is alive than if she is dead

Because if Renee is dead, considering MC character, it would be really hard for MC to forgive Zankou

[proven tiger]

I dont think they would mind making villains playable, idk tho

Isnt there villains playable in genshin or smthing? Like arleccino or whats her name?

[eternal river]

there is an implication in the story, that all the damage done to Renee was projected onto the doll representing her instead of her human body, in a same way Dorian Gray's portrait worked

Which is why her doll has gray hair (the doll aged instead of Renee) and a hole in her chest from where the Debt Collector took her heart

[proven tiger]

Hmmm

I guess, but the "going traveling the world and wont be back for a long time and saying goodbye" thing is just too in place i fear

[eternal river]

well, we will see, as I said, both outcomes are currently possible

[proven tiger]

True i guess

[lone arch]

@sour bone

[minor lodge]

So playing main story met Jiuyuan I figure there's a quest when we meet each other since she called us old friend can I still play it or is it gone now ?

[dreamy quartz]

so whats the lore of this game

[vale beacon]

World has anomalous stuff and you are someone with strange powers and a memory loss

[mossy nexus]

Hmmmmmmm , I think I know where this word come from XD

[proven tiger]

You mean the greeting?

[mossy nexus]

Mhm

[hazy inlet]

The truman show ref 🔥

[proven tiger]

Its different from the one in truman show, if thats what you are talking about

[mossy nexus]

Yea XD

[eternal river]

You meet her for the "first" time during Moonlight quest or something like that (the one that opens Morphix weekly boss)

[hazy inlet]

It’s obvious they meant that tho

Especially since this game has multiple references

[mossy nexus]

It's same. But just at the end of the greeting , I think he say " in case I don't see ya " like that

[proven tiger]

You forgor the good night from the end

[minor lodge]

Ty Ty

[proven tiger]

"Good morning, and in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night"

But yeah its probably a reference

[mossy nexus]

Mmm, yea XD. I guess that's right

[proven tiger]

Did you just start that quest?

[mossy nexus]

Just finished it.

[proven tiger]

Oh nice, i just asked in case you havent done it, wanted to warn you not to scroll up, cause we pretty much spoiled the whole quest

[mossy nexus]

Ouh , I see

[pallid moss]

Oh Yeah i printed that too lol

[mossy nexus]

Hmmm, well I was just sad snowman die

[eternal river]

Damn, this girl not only joined occult club it seems, but she went all the way to joining BAC it seems xD

[shadow citrus]

From "The Truman Show" right..?

[swift herald]

Can you meet the character for lights on quest?

[upbeat tiger]

so wait, Pink Paws is not only bank but multi jobs Corp?

[violet burrow]

realistically a company that big would be more than just banks but i cant think of anything else other than pink paws bank. they probably have more

[upbeat tiger]

I mean it straight up like they not only bank, they have a museum. Insurance(Chiz Ult voice line mentions about injury insurance), maybe more since they’re everywhere in the current city

[hardy scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949685843180793897/1505210316097716426/caption.3fb54a2e.gif

[opaque crest]

If Esper Zero was a dnd character what side would he/she be?

[main plank]

just to be clear "fadia is better than hotori" is what the guy we're putting in the trash can said, right?

[hardy scaffold]

yee

it makes sense in both ways tho doesnt it ?

[opaque crest]

Is this right

[violet burrow]

yea. giovanni is a trillionaire so he would own alot. i just dont remember all of them. i hope they add alot more to the tycoon. i just dont want them to hold back so that they can force people to spend money for fons. a tycoon should allow us to become a monopoly. would be tragic if we get a half baked tycoon cause "we make no profit"

[opaque crest]

Would Esper Zero be true neutral

[turbid harness]

What does blue portal mean in heist mode

[eternal river]

seems neutral good to me, on the verge of lawful good. Too goody-two-shoes imo

[main plank]

main story: lawful good
open-world gameplay: chaotic evil

[leaden ore]

I didn't understand anything at the beginning of the game. especially the first cutscenes

[leaden ore]

https://tenor.com/view/marlon3lg-mar3lg-m3-m3skee-marlon-gif-gif-6744349498463665269

[serene nacelle]

Are we talking about looks? Bc I love my girl Hotori but where is the booty. Fadia has chest and booty

[cinder hound]

Just finished chapter 4 is there any more story missions

[cinder vessel]

Side quest

[eternal river]

you should not be allowed into lore channel if you don't know where to find Hotori's booty. That's like lore 101

[hardy scaffold]

fake mommy ( FADIA ) vs actual waifu (hotori)

hotori literally got better apperance personality and better face feature cuter and no i aint sexualizing my girl

[serene nacelle]

We shouldn’t be pinning two baddies against each other people. Let’s take both

[hardy scaffold]

no we aint taking both

[eternal river]

Hotori having better personality can be said only when talking about Fadia Thankfully, Fadia exists

[serene nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/fadia-nte-neverness-to-everness-gif-11578633546485824676

[hardy scaffold]

hotori does have an amazing personality btw and i can prove this cuz she actually is the funniest amongest the group and the most caring one in eibon she just doesnt show it and i can prove this by how she treats appraiser and adler with soo much respect

[eternal river]

and you also can fix her, right?

[hardy scaffold]

i can also say that for a boss as she is she lets the anomoly hunters freely she isnt strict with them like skia from ETD etc

[eternal river]

Skia is not even a boss 😭

[hardy scaffold]

i can but i won't cuz wdym fixing her means i cant see her drunk where i can put a blanket on her

[hardy scaffold]

isnt he some kind a dude who orders baicang like a boss to him or smth

[eternal river]

Poor doggo is getting double the work without getting paid for that work

[hardy scaffold]

???

[eternal river]

Baicang is captain and Skia is leutenant

[hardy scaffold]

than why is skia the one ordering baicang at some quest 😭

[eternal river]

it's a running joke for Baicang to make everyone think Skia is their captain. So that he gets all the paperwork

[serene nacelle]

Skia is the teachers pet pretty much

[eternal river]

Technically, it's Baicang (overachiever, best at everything). Until he grew some backbone and learned about procrastination

[hardy scaffold]

hmm still doesnt really deny my point in anyway so fair enough

also where does this come from cuz i dont remember them joking about it much

unless on other quests or smth

[eternal river]

I think Skia says something along the lines or it's in Skia's biography

That he has to do paperwork for Baicang too

[violet burrow]

just cause you arent top dog doesnt mean you cant keep people in check and make sure everything is going smoothly. skia is 2nd in command in ETD-4 but bai likes to goof off and run away from work so skia has to jump in and make sure things get going. ETD-4 isnt like eibon where u can slack off and not get work for hours or days or even a week with how poorly eibon does. skia is a really nice dude when u do his bond stuff, he just has a peculiar personality because of how his daily life is

[hardy scaffold]

have i been hearing some eibon slander and espacially a hotori slander as a boss

our appraiser smokes both BAC and ETD not close at all

excuse you against zaksou BAC has done nothing everyone was resolved thanks to eibon its not really slacking off if its actually more about free will than the others on BAC on ETD even mint struggles with how BAC work

and also lacrimosa from ETD

that shows how much characters struggles in their position unlike eibon which you are free to do whatever as long as you are doing fine

so dont you dare insult my precious waifu again

[vale beacon]

I thought ETD is a team under BAC

[hardy scaffold]

ye but they kinda differ some people from ETD would like to go to BAC

but eibon is better than both

[violet burrow]

yea ik that and slacking off doesnt mean neglecting work. if eibon had as much work as anyone in BAC, they would be constantly working and would need to be on timing like skia and stuff or else they would be ruining themselfs. the lack of commissions sent to eibon is what allows them to do whatever they want for most of the time.

[violet burrow]

ETD is a faction in the BAC, just like the CSU and JTF. if you are in ETD then ur in BAC

[vale beacon]

?? Like what differ? Like eibon which are semi independent?

[hardy scaffold]

well it doesnt really work like that eibon has a closer bond then people on ETD and BAC in their bond is more familial while the others work as partners more difference is that hotori slack off allat compared to skia

[hardy scaffold]

adler is fully dependent as much as skia if you ask me

appraiser aswell

[violet burrow]

its not about bond or free will, thats not what im talking about. everyone in ETD-4 has free will to do whatever they want except maybe fadia because of her past. im talking about the quantity of work/commissions both eibon and BAC members get and how that affects their attitude and habits. eibon doesnt get alot of work so hotori doesnt need to tell nanally to get to work or to focus up or to come home. she can drink and sleep all day because of that. skia and BAC members on the other hand are filled to the brim with work so skia needs to scold bai and make sure everyone is doing what they need to do.

[hardy scaffold]

excuse me but the less experienced team which is eibon was the one who took care of the renee quest and BAC had nothing to offer

[vale beacon]

That is pure chance, especially since the key figure renee was with eibon team, BAC team arrived later but only by half a day

[violet burrow]

not eibon, everything on eibons side was 80% appraiser as shes the one who was mainly fighting and running around with renee. u must of forgotten how BAC was already working on the puppet case before eibon was even dragged in. they had all the puppets contained already and has specialized member ready to help appraiser. they are also the ones to wrap things up after zankou got beat and retreated

[gray pilot]

I just thought of it as having less manpower when it comes to espers. Thats why theyre sending Eibon the job because Hotori.

[hardy scaffold]

"pure chance" yet solved the case 😭 lets not forget how daff and nanally also had their share of helping appraiser

[violet burrow]

Eibon as a whole isnt less experienced either. they have hotori and adler with hotori being a BIG name in the BAC. hinting that shes very strong and/or made a big name for herself through various methods. adler has been with hotori since the start and is alson very experienced. only the kids are amateurs. with the addition of appraiser, they have become extremely capable

[gray pilot]

JTF has many agents cause normally most of them are Regular Humans. iirc. But ETD-4 theyre like so few

[hardy scaffold]

thats what i say adler is as experienced as skia and hotori trust/respect him the most he is fully dependent

[violet burrow]

ETD has like 6+ groups with each group having like 3+ members. that should be enough to handle any large anomoly cases. CSU is also there to handle other things and JTF to handle the small stuff

[vale beacon]

Ya, pure chance cuz renee was with them who is a key character, don't forget that scarlet letter literally "guided" Eibon team to the mansion

[gray pilot]

Yeah, but at least at that time, they dont have enough that they have to let eibon do it.

[hardy scaffold]

its not pure chance if renee's friend clearly recommended eibon for her

[gray pilot]

Oh yeah right, Zankou did recommend it

[hardy scaffold]

cuz of daff

[vale beacon]

That "friend" is from scarlet letter...

[hardy scaffold]

how can you say eibon are "independent" despite they have some actual dependent members

[vale beacon]

Like i said the villain literally choose eibon

[eternal river]

my man pitched it like he is from ETD himself

[vale beacon]

Semi-Indipendent as they don't need to fully follow BAC

[hardy scaffold]

what about daff tho

[violet burrow]

i have to read back dialouge but from what i remember, it wasnt cause they were low on hunters. eibon got a commission related to it so they asked for help since they were already involved. appraiser is also considered special by pretty much everyone so they would want her to work on higher tier cases. she would probably have been called on even if eibon didnt already get a commission. daf being related to scarlet letter might have also dragged them in later on too

[gray pilot]

Theyre independent, that if Eibon managed to fk things up. They have less blame. XD

[violet burrow]

forgot about her. she is also very capable. mainly in combat but she seems less experienced than hotori and adler outside of pure combat. still very capable and can manage others and her own very well

[vale beacon]

Scarlet letter basically gave renee to eibon so they could guide them and manipulate renee into giving up her immortality

[gray pilot]

Yeah, i forgot haha.

[hardy scaffold]

BAC only better than them cuz they have what it takes for them to solve cases nothing more to it but in terms of experience the actual good people from eibon are as capable if not more capable than people in ETD and BAC

[gray pilot]

I thought this was in General... Like why BAC is always pushing it to Eibon

[violet burrow]

it may seem like eibon is busy because of gameplay but in lore, they BARELY get commissions and are basically at the bottom of the list for anyone looking to set up anomoly commissions😭. it should get better in the future though

[vale beacon]

If we go by, the better the people the more work they get, Eibon lorewise don't get many commissions.
Ofc doesn't mean they aren't as capable, but i think most of their commissions are handled by the kids and dangerous ones are handled by daff

[eternal river]

BAC is low on workers. Mainly because there are way too many anomalies. They say it in T-word Citizen ID quest

[vale beacon]

Also BAC is basically an government department

[gray pilot]

Thats what i was saying

[violet burrow]

i dont think they are THE government. maybe a part of the gov but BAC is just a group under a larger big boss. theres other groups as large as the BAC that handle other things are all of them are under the command of something larger. i dont remember the name of it if it was even mentioned

[eternal river]

yeah, all were named. Yggash is for Database

[hardy scaffold]

until fellow appraiser emerges to collect hotori's soul by making eibon the best

[violet burrow]

yea i remember now. just cant remember off the top of my head. whats the other departments called?

[eternal river]

Tbh, it wasn't mentioned that those are under single authority though

More like they interoperate, but it's possible they would be under singular authority, because while current BAC director seems capable, I don't feel like she is the most capable out there

[violet burrow]

u sure? im pretty sure it was mentioned at some point that they are all under the authority of a larger entity

[hardy scaffold]

idk about you all but i actually prefer eibon over the 2 others and besides we were literally talking about whos the better boss and tbf i dont think hotori would change even if eibon had much work to do cuz simply she never really forced/been strict with appreiser during the renee quest and the other quests simply cuz she trust him enough

despite that appraiser is new

[eternal river]

ehh, some weird names, not easy to remember xD

[violet burrow]

i like eibon more too but my reason for even responding was to explain why skia acts the way he doesna and why hotori acts the way she does. not to see whos a better boss. i thought the topic was originally whos a better mommy, fadia or hotori and it was with you and someone else😭

[eternal river]

Well, one would think that if there was bigger authority, Hotori wouldn't use BAC as a scarecrow to put Ebisu family members in place (in the Auction House epilogue), because it would be better just to namedrop someone bigger in this case

[hardy scaffold]

yeaa 😭 but then it shifted cuz yall think her personally is only over fadia while she got a really good personality

[eternal river]

intentions =|= personality. She has good intentions...

[violet burrow]

maybe name dropping something bigger than BAC is entirely unrealistic😂 or maybe the larger entity is more hidden than exposed like BAC and other departments. as far as we know, hotori wasnt involved with anything higher than BAC so maybe she doesnt have the ability to utilized anything higher than BAC/

[hardy scaffold]

she got good personality aswell just tell me one bad personality trait she have

[violet burrow]

yall? nah just the other guy. i like hotori, daff, fadia, and jiuyuans personality the most out of all the characters in the game rn.

[eternal river]

Hotori was BAC director, one would think a former director can namedrop things like that if they were present. But again, I wouldn't mind if there was bigger authority, it just doesn't feel like there is for now

[violet burrow]

i didnt know she was director. id have to look into the lore again but im not sure if theres any documentation anywhere since NTE is still brand new

[violet burrow]

one bad trait is her dumping all of eibons money on mostly useless things

[hardy scaffold]

hitori got the best personality out of these so far imo probably ingame to the only one i see having a better personality over her is adler

[hardy scaffold]

where is adler ?

[eternal river]

during the AH quest other coworkers called her former director, iirc

[violet burrow]

hes really cool but i dont like him as much as most of the other characters. maybe younger adler since he seems to have more aura than current adler.

[hardy scaffold]

she is a high standard women and thats a good thing

[hardy scaffold]

Adler has the sweetest personality in all of nte soo far tbh

Btw im really not much with the lore so dhen you said "young adler" idk what you mean since i only know the lore from the gzme and the stuff presented in gzme

[violet burrow]

i dont disagree but theres the argument that chiz, aurelia, lacrimosa, mint, or daff are the sweetest.

sometimes sweetest isnt the best. theres spice, sourness, and savory which others can provide

[hardy scaffold]

This argument us unvalid due to actually its common to see girls as "sweet" only for their apperance but adler is just actually a sweet person

Being sweet differ from a women to a man let from a man to a girl

It differs

[violet burrow]

i was talking about personality and not appearence. that argument is not invalid😂

[eternal river]

About Skia doing the paperwork...

[hardy scaffold]

Idk how ti tell you nut its a based thing for girls to be sweeter than man and sometimes their apperance is what makes them look sweet unlike how it works for man and thats how i see adler as the sweetest

[hardy scaffold]

.

[violet burrow]

appearence was never a factor in my argument. i even thought about skia for a slip second. just cause thats how u think doesnt mean its how everyone thinks.

[sly phoenix]

Why did lacrimosa steal the artifact in act 3 doesn't she work with the BAC ?

[quartz ermine]

Are you sure it’s lacrimosa?

[sly phoenix]

Wait she wasn't ? I remember she looked like her

[quartz ermine]

It’s not lacrimosa

[sly phoenix]

Oh alright then i got confused thanks

[violet burrow]

How did u get the nanally role?

[quartz ermine]

Idk actually I just realized I got it because you mentioned it

[violet burrow]

Lol

[lucid stream]

I just took a long hard look at the launcher screen and... Did I skip something? I see at least two characters I don't remember meeting

[upper nimbus]

Is there any lore reason why Adler wears glasses

Like I might be making shit up in my brain, but why his eyes are closed

[lucid stream]

He's blind

[upper nimbus]

So is there like lore behind bro's glasses?

Unless it's locked for me to see, cuz I didn't raise him much

Nvm, it doesn't need anything

[lucid stream]

It's shouldn't be. every profile is available even if you don't have the character

[upper nimbus]

[lucid stream]

I actually seeing three characters I don't recognize in the PC launcher. A lady with black hair and horns, some blue haired girl behind Mint and near Zankou and some dude with long black hair.

[upper nimbus]

[lofty crow]

They showed up in one of the trailers, they're all part of BAC

[lofty crow]

Nanally gave it to him as a gift because something something mafia something

[upper nimbus]

I see

I'ma need to read more into the chars Zero interacts with, ngl.
Well..aside from NPCs that is.

[swift kernel]

Does Jenson own Sterry or Jiuyuan?

[lavish turret]

I feel like if I finish the side quest "Miles Apart" I'll cry

Like it was meant to remind people that mothers will do anything to make their child happy

Or did I misunderstand it?

[cold totem]

Chat, all characters start at Bond lvl 1, except Sakiri who starts at lvl 0. I wonder if there's hidden lore to this, like she can't feel affection?

[violet burrow]

jiuyuan does. jenson just works with them and is their friend

[last kelp]

Jenson is the manager of the courier side iirc whereas the other side of Sterry, Jiuyuan is the manager.

[violet burrow]

that makes sense too

[swift kernel]

So Jenson is the supervisor of Haniel, Illica, and Hathor?

[cold totem]

I was wrong, Hathor starts at 0 Bond too

[past oak]

Can both modules and cartilage hv cr cd substats on every modules
And each cartilage with crit main stat ?

[fierce lotus]

Its a gift from nanally

[storm fractal]

That and moving on from grief too. The mother doesn’t want her to feel guilty and starts living happily rather than stuck in her childhood past.

I’m more curious of who’s that ghost figure in the intro next to her.

[upper nimbus]

Hm, interesting

[storm fractal]

It’s quite sweet, actually. Nanally and her cliché thought glasses would looks great on Adler and he been wearing it since then

[fierce lotus]

Well She wasn't wrong,he looks majestic with it

[serene nacelle]

Anyone else think Daff might get another form later down the line?

[fierce lotus]

But I still wished they made him have some animations where he removes the glasses cuz he looks good without it too

[serene nacelle]

They don’t care about the men characters little one

[storm fractal]

The only gacha games that care about men characters is limbus company 😭

[serene nacelle]

REAL

[fierce lotus]

Idk if hotta goes with variants concept
But she could get one ,she will stay a major Character in the story for at least the first season of the game

[storm fractal]

I’d riot if Daff isn’t a major character considering first season gonna be about Madam T

[fierce lotus]

I mean they listened when people wanted to date men
So have some hope bro

[fierce lotus]

So will the second season be about Madam U?
Hahaha get it? T U V

[storm fractal]

LOL

[serene nacelle]

I will have hope, I’ll also hope they do what ZZZ did and release buffer type men. Rather that sooner then 8 years later

[fierce lotus]

There is buffed man shown in the Livestream

[storm fractal]

I hope in the future we gonna have a horror hide and seek anomaly too cuz that would be so fun

[serene nacelle]

Oh hell no 😭 I had to turn the volume off on the hospital one

[storm fractal]

So far nte being part horror is what put it unique than other gacha games so I would love for there to be more of it. It’s a waste of being anomaly world with little horrors

[upper hearth]

okay so ive been thinking about it a lot today bc it has been bothering me. but the way lacrimosa speaks is very... annoying lowkey. when i googled her age i found a site that said she was 20? but then my husband pointed out she probably speaks like that bc that's the price she paid for her esper ability. thoughts? i wonder if this is true

[lucid stream]

Yeah, that makes sense. She's vampire themed, eternal youth and such.

[storm fractal]

Oh same. I like her design but I don’t like her very much. So far she feels very like a child for me. Not even any social inept adult doesn’t know what the middle finger is

[fierce lotus]

FINALLY FOUND HIM
after looking everywhere on my photo album

[upper hearth]

hello?! who is this

[storm fractal]

Watch his model gonna be another twink

[fierce lotus]

PLEASE BE FROM SCARLET LATTER

[open berry]

https://tenor.com/view/nte-nanally-neverness-to-neverless-gif-5325448950589821182

[upper hearth]

yeah i think her gameplay and design is sooo cool. but her speech pattern bothers me 😭 but i don't mind it too much if that's the price she paid

[fierce lotus]

Nahh they can't do this on him
He is just the goat

[upper hearth]

please no 😂 im so happy Chaos is buff and i hope the trend continues. except for Exe of course. his design is cool

[fierce lotus]

Male character shown in the Livestream

[upper hearth]

oh really? in the 1.0 livestream yeah? i never watched it

[storm fractal]

I just hope dating system exist for men when Exe get in the game cuz I want my emo boy

[fierce lotus]

Also OMG he uses CHAINS
Look at his hand

[upper hearth]

im sure it will be! ive been making sure to put that in all the in game surveys to add for the males. just a matter of seeing if they will or not. cuz i think having hangout events for EVERY character would be nice. i know rn not all the women have hangout events yet. also would be nice to see outfits for every character too

[fierce lotus]

I hope it's not the typical male character who for some reason doesn't get to be playable

[upper nimbus]

I mean...they weren't wrong

[upper hearth]

super hyped for the 1.1 livestream. can't wait to get more details ab the next MSQ. also Daffodill was in the artwork, and now im more curious about her. i didnt like her at first bc she barely spoke and seemed emotionless, but she really surprised me at the end of chapter 4 with protecting nanally and then seeing her at the photo store getting family photos 🥹

[upper hearth]

so cute 😭 the way he wears them for her even though they serve no use to him. Eibon is such a family

[storm fractal]

Oh her chat after the photo store also quite sweet too. Eibon is straight up a family to her

[lucid stream]

That's kind of concerning in it of itself, who knows what lengths Daffodil will go to protect Eibon.

[upper hearth]

honestly that makes me more excited. it makes her sort of a gray character if they go that route with her

[storm fractal]

You know what else I also love? The numerous family photos Hotori (could also he Adler) put on the wall in her room (I think?)

[upper nimbus]

Funny how despite me liking her, a car overtook Daffodill in my eyes.

[upper hearth]

yesss! such a cute detail to see in the shop with all the photos up

[upper hearth]

what? 😂

[upper nimbus]

Mint

[upper hearth]

ohhh! a cat XD now i see

[storm fractal]

Each nte group is just a different found-family. No one can change my mind

[upper hearth]

that would be a cute trend. kinda like the ZZZ factions

[storm fractal]

Like someone caught the ETD-4 team went on a fast food store and eat there together. Yes, the entire ETD-4 group

[upper nimbus]

Yep

[upper hearth]

55 BURGERS 55 FRIES 55 TACOS, 55 PIES, 55 COKES, 100 TATER TOTS, 100 PIZZAS, 100 TENDERS, 100 MEATBALLS, 100 COFFEEES, 55 WINGS

[upper nimbus]

Now I'm trying to minmax her damn bond level, but it's quite difficult not having the uh..whatever this thing is called with the 2k bond exp

[storm fractal]

Who gonna eat all that. Lacri?? 😭😭

[upper hearth]

ohh the little letters. yah. i was working on her bond until i got other dps units i was wanting to use. now im leveling the bonds for nanally, chiz, and jiuyuan

[upper hearth]

her and baicang XD

[lucid stream]

Has anyone seen Lagrimose eat anything other than tomato jelly?

[upper hearth]

no 😭 and im concerned

[storm fractal]

Fadia is an enabler that encourages those two while Skia got more stressed

[upper hearth]

skia needs a vacation from them lol. and jenson needs one from illica aand haniel. and also a bank account recovery after what hotori did

[storm fractal]

I saw her eat burger…tomato burger…

[upper hearth]

plot twist, she just reshaped tomato juice into a burger

imaginadough style

[storm fractal]

Oh dont worry for Jenson, he’s the 8th richest person that wouldn’t put a dent in his pocket

[upper hearth]

wait he is?! omg i never check the pawbs thing

the pokemon battle style for that scene was sooo funny

[storm fractal]

I love all the silly refs they put in

[storm fractal]

Baicang wouldnt approve his vacation. Who else would file all the papers and reports for him then 😂

[fierce lotus]

Finally found the clip where he showed up
He is with ETD4 members
And I don't why but chaos hate that guy😭😭

[upper hearth]

the power abuse is real 😭

[fierce lotus]

Like dude chill what did he do to deserve this😭😭

[upper hearth]

ugh nitsa is so gorgeous i need her on my account

[storm fractal]

ETD-6 you mean?

[upper hearth]

hot tbh

[fierce lotus]

Speaking facts

[fierce lotus]

I forgot the numbers but not the baicang team

[fierce lotus]

Also this guy is just flying bro

[storm fractal]

I only know that Baicang team is ETD-4 so it’s easy now to know whom in ETD-6. Later on when more ETD team drops I’ll be screw

[storm fractal]

Chaos really doesn’t pull any punches, he all hands

[fierce lotus]

I didn't expect Chaos to have a great physical strength honestly
I was lowkey shocked when he stopped the dept collector attack with his BARE HAND

Like atp just makes him a melee character he does not need that gun

Also I'm kinda curious about the dog
He can just open a Portal for chaos
Maybe his gameplay will have something like this

[upper nimbus]

Bro took that Enforcement in Enforcement Tactical Division quite literally

😭

[main plank]

how would we know? It's an alleged leak
btw you're not supposed to discuss leaks here

[gleaming sail]

this guy is the real mc

[frozen laurel]

Hiii

[main plank]

probably should delete the original post

[teal brook]

Has anyone encountered this too?

[analog crystal]

a

[oblique bronze]

what was that thing that the parents wanted to tell their child but said it's better to tell him themselves? it's in that Baicang quest

[spiral haven]

So how did Nanally get her esper powers?

[wide ridge]

Not me. I'm guessing 100% that's the debug room.

[reef finch]

channels become kinda...empty when everything is dumped into general anyways 🥀

[hardy scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/paper-lily-lacie-born-to-forced-to-born-to-sleep-gif-8329674268494654735

[reef finch]

That's how every server is anyways "use the channels for what they say they are!" no one ever does

[hollow bridge]

how strong mc weapon bro surviving a strong attack

[gray pilot]

Bro parried concentrated light.

[barren solar]

It wasn't a bare hand tbh, he stopped it with a gun or guns

[lilac portal]

My guess is 'that he's not a burden'

[high plinth]

Are you sure

He has 200 million fons

Hotori spent 200 million fons

He lost 50% of his net worth that day lil bro

If I were jenson I would burn her ass at the stake 💀

[lucid stream]

She was a Captain at BAC. Odds are if that if he tried she could probably straight up murder him.

[high plinth]

She can the world him of course jenson ain’t winning

[main plank]

the money was from the client who hired Jenson, right? So it wasn't coming straight out of his own bank account

[high plinth]

Then why did jenson look so ghastly when she wasted the 100 million twice

[vale beacon]

Jenson paid for everything

Since the stuff hotori bought isn't even the objective item

[quaint cliff]

is that The Truth?

https://tenor.com/view/fma-truth-full-metal-alchemist-gif-11986904

[hollow bridge]

[winter veldt]

I don't think the upstairs area is her room, unless she just doesn't care about privacy whatsoever and changes and sleeps at night and stuff in there

she probably has a room in the back like everyone else but spends a lot of her time resting in the upstairs room during the day too

[polar oxide]

Are anomolies ghosts spirits or demon

[high plinth]

none of the above

they are paranormal manifestations of human psyche more or less

although in general an anomaly is anything that doesn't adhere to your normal rules of reality

[proven tiger]

I wonder about the rumor anomalies, cant they just make a rumor like there is a really dtrong anomaly that contains all lower level anomalies, so there wont be any incidents in the city?

[main plank]

if anything, it's the opposite... in the world of NTE, "ghosts" "spirits" and "demons" are all just mistaken terms for anomalies

[high plinth]

it is practically impossible to control human psyche and perceptions

the effects of trying to make such an anomaly could be devastating

[proven tiger]

Cant they just make a strong hunter get in sm kind of mascara and spread the gossip?

[high plinth]

then youre not making a rumour bro

youre just having a very strong hunter do what the anomaly should be doing 😭

[proven tiger]

No i mean the hunter gets in a mascara like an anomaly, and hunts the anomalies, and you and some people, idk maybe the bureau spreads that its an anomaly hunting anomalies

[high plinth]

besides, anomalies aren't exactly "bad"

as a whole most anomalies are between nuisances and household pets

[proven tiger]

Yeah thats true, it would steal all the silverwares🤣

I gues i didnt think of that, that it would just contain everything

[high plinth]

anomalies are pretty much yo-kai from yo-kai watch mixed with cursed spirits and demons from jjk/csm

and espers are basically stand users

[fierce lotus]

He didn't, he has a gun one hand but he is still stopping the attack with his hands

[barren solar]

i see

[hazy inlet]

Might be accidental tbh

[steel violet]

that cutscene is riddled with animator mistakes

[high plinth]

nah it does actually look like he's using the pistol to stop one

[earnest marlin]

Hey everyone I just need arnd 60k for my tycoon if anyone has mommon lvl 7/maxed please lmk would appreciate it alott.

[gloomy stratus]

can you sell the parts you bought for vehicle modding?

[eternal river]

He was down to 178 mil on the day of auction, so more than 50%

I think Jenson is down bad for Hotori, so he has written it off as a necessary expenditure

[gloomy stratus]

wait wrong channel sorry 😭

[wide ridge]

What do I do next?

[vale beacon]

You need to be very rich to satisfy hotori needs

[vale beacon]

Just do what's said there

[wide ridge]

I don't see him.

[vale beacon]

Looked to your right?

[wide ridge]

Yes. Nothing,

[vale beacon]

Try asking in #🤝┆gameplay-help

[raw brook]

Will NTE lore turn more darker and more heavy lore after tageydo date?

[vale beacon]

The one after that quest is... Not that dark

[raw brook]

So no serious lore 😭?

[serene hull]

Does anyone have a replay of Chiz’s date at Bond 5? The one where the MC passed out?

On Fadia’s date, they drank like 8 cocktails and were still standing like a boss, but during Chiz’s date they passed out after only 3 drinks. I’m pretty sure they mentioned the name of the cocktail, so I’m curious what it was called.

[main plank]

I wouldn't quite say dark and heavy, but there'll be an actual plot and it'll be better overall

[vale beacon]

I mean the quest after that is kinda serious but it doesn't explain much about the lore

[raw brook]

Alr thanksss,praying for more lore of actually true lore of the world

[vale beacon]

Well it does introduces the current antagonist faction

[violet burrow]

the final quest does have a decent amout of lore for the world. going over multiple things

[desert sonnet]

I must have missed that bit, if it was in the game. Why doesn’t Hotori join the Bureau, given her abilities? She literally stops time. I don’t think the Bureau would turn her down

[eternal river]

you are late to this message, he sent it during one of the first missions of MQ

[violet burrow]

she was already in the BAC as the previous director. shes retired now

[vale beacon]

Who are Ellie, inanna and Settyn?

[eternal river]

Settyn is a musician (the one we meet during AH quest I think). Ellie is a puppeteer

[violet burrow]

thats toshi. settyn makes clothes i think

nvm im wrong

[eternal river]

Toshi makes parfumes

[violet burrow]

yea ik.

[vale beacon]

I see ty

[high plinth]

are you kidding me

[crisp kelp]

Ok is it just me or is this renee storyline so drawn out

[violet burrow]

seems most people like it but i have a few things i really dislike about it

[eternal river]

well, they def should have split it

[vale beacon]

The pacing isn't good

[main plank]

It's a bit slow in parts... but very worth being for imo

[eternal river]

Pacing seems fine to me

I guess it feels better if you use Daffodil movement tech

[fierce surge]

so… how exactly does Taygedo eat?

[crisp kelp]

Just to me, the storyline just kept going over the same thing over and over again. Like i get it, renee left can we move on and stop teasing her about it...

And ffs let me use my characters in combat lol

[violet burrow]

my main problem with that quest is how each section was split. renee and her family have little importance to the lore compared to scarlet letter, BAC, and daff but she takes up like 80% of the long ahh quest. it shoulda be atleast 50/50 cause they barely showed anything else while they were much more important. yea they did yap alot and it took a long time but i dont think that was much of a problem

[crisp kelp]

Yeah a little too much yapping, a little too much backtracking, and too little tomes when i can use my own characters, but i digress

[violet burrow]

it felt like a pretty important spinoff to me than a MSQ😂

[high plinth]

it's early in a gacha's story cycle

get used to a lot of this happening

you don't deserve good story content yet

[violet burrow]

ik how gacha stories work but it doesnt take much brainpower to understand how to make a good story

[eternal river]

I would say old families have way more importance to lore than BAC

[high plinth]

eh

maybe Dvořák but Serenetti and whatever Dolores' family was are donezo, kaput

i do think we're likely gonna get a Dvořák family mf

probably not Giovanni (although it's funny how they're avoiding showing us his model so maybe)

[eternal river]

Their family members still exist though

[high plinth]

consider Renee permanently out of the picture

Serenetti family is long gone

[eternal river]

no, they just couldn't contact a family member

[eternal river]

Renee might not be the only member of the family left

[high plinth]

have you read the quest?

[eternal river]

One of the "ghosts" behind the table looked a whole awful lot like that blonde friend of Renee

[main plank]

I don't see how the Renee quest isn't main story material, it's compelling on its own merits. "Lore" should serve the story, not the other way around. But even on those terms, it introduces Zankou, the Scarlet Letter, and Daffodill's connection to them.

[high plinth]

initial quests usually have that pattern

[eternal river]

Lore should serve the story anywhere but gacha. In gacha story just doesn't work

They need to sell characters and it messes up with storytelling

[high plinth]

have seemingly unrelated quests to the main plot that serve to at some point introduce recurring villains or elements

[violet burrow]

in what way?

[sick cosmos]

I remember that "the circle" was mentioned on one of the Serenetti notes even though at the time the BAC probably didn't exist

i hope they'll expand on that

[high plinth]

the circle may be a recurring concept

[sick cosmos]

yeah maybe it's just a social circle or something

[high plinth]

right now, it nominally refers to the 5 agencies but maybe it changes as time passes

[sick cosmos]

but i has capital letter so idk

[high plinth]

wdym

[eternal river]

too early to tell. One thing in common is that so far old families shared a "flower" or petal thematic, each family has a distinct number of petals. Considering that chinese storytelling likes self-patterning, we might see a case where there are 7 families originally made by OG Time Witch, who started Heterocycle. So each family is represented by one of the puppets made by OG Witch

[sick cosmos]

it was written like "The Circle"

[high plinth]

In guailo terms please

[violet burrow]

this is like a theory that wouldnt be answered till like 4.0😂. in that case sure old famailies can hold great importance but as of right now they dont. right now renee just overshadowed everything else thats important during that quest.

[eternal river]

they do though. We know at least one character made by OG Witch, the Magician, who is responsible for all anomalies that give us progression items

[violet burrow]

it is compelling but i dont believe its that important. yes it shouldnt be removed from MSQ but it was like 80% renee. i think it should have been atleast a 50/50 with renee and other 50 being daff, scarlet letter, and BAC stuff. you could replace renee with a immortal dog on the side of the road and they would do the same thing. renee was just a anchor for scarlet letter to get involved

[main plank]

Renee is the heart of the story this particular quest was telling. I dunno what else to say

[violet burrow]

yea and if they wanted a story about renee they could have made a spinoff but they wanted it to have MSQ importance but only gave use 20% of the important stuff.

[high plinth]

Yeah but if you’re not interested in thr heart it’s understandable thst people are disappointed

[eternal river]

People consider different things important. For me Midas Tower and old families are important, and I couldn't care less about BAC and Scarlet Letter is not inspiring so far, look like villain wannabes (Though they seem to be an offshoot of an old family)

[high plinth]

Why invest interest into a character that you probably won’t see again and isnt really all thst interesting. The problem about this complaint is that by herself she may not be interesting, but as you said she is the heart of a very interesting plot so idk

[main plank]

I don't know how to respond to someone who simply refuses to take a story on its own terms and demands something else in its place

[unreal berry]

is there a reason why cheek pouch is class V?

[violet burrow]

you as a consumer can consider different things important but in the world of hethereau, what is actually the most important?

[eternal river]

obviously Heterocycle

[desert sonnet]

How old is she?
Google / Wiki says 20-22.. but how..

[main plank]

To be more precise, she shares the central place with Dolores and Zankou, so fortunately she doesn't need to carry the weight all by herself

[violet burrow]

i do take it on its own terms. i played through and read everything and enjoyed the things i liked about it. theres nothing wrong with expressing the things u dont like about it and giving ur thoughts on how it could be better

[violet burrow]

i dont know how old she is or if its mentioned but in hethereau, you dont need to be old to do important things or be involved with stuff. lacrimosa looks pretty young but shes part of ETD and has her own apartment and lives on her own. depending on how things play out for her, she could climb the ranks at a very young age.

[high plinth]

It’s more of a criticism of those terms rather than a rejection

[main plank]

There are no official ages. Sounds like an AI hallucination to me

[high plinth]

But yeah pretty much

Mfs just don’t like renee, they should move on because most people like how the story went

[desert sonnet]

Maybe

[eternal river]

Considering Chinese storytelling, Hotori is probably as old as old families, if she is truly out of time loop

[high plinth]

I really like tge fact that she’s a taxi driver

I think it’s very funny

I cannot imagine her ass honking at people in traffic in a dusty beaten down crown Victoria yelling at people to GET A DAMN MOVE ON

[eternal river]

Renee be like: "Move your asses, or I'll sic my Debt Collector on you"

[main plank]

Daffodill and the Scarlet Letter can easily be focused on in other, later stories, and no doubt will be. For this particular story, I don't think there was any need for the story to reveal more than it did.

Renee isn't that strong of a character by herself, that much I agree on, but she plays the role she needs to play in relation to Dolores, Zankou, the Eternal Present, etc.

[high plinth]

for the record I like the story I’m just trying to make sense of what they’re saying

[eternal river]

pretty sure people are just salty because they left off on a pretty decent cliffhanger

[high plinth]

I’d be more disappointed if they didn’t lmao

Means MSQ4 doesn’t actually contribute anything to the overall story

[eternal river]

ehh, current ending is unsatisfying in so many ways

[high plinth]

How so

[violet burrow]

we are only in 1.0 so yea they will go over those topics later and my opinion on the 1.x version itself will be different. im talking about my opinion and enjoyment on this quest specifically. even if they kept everything from renee in but just added more about the others, that would make me happy.

not about the cliffhanger either. idc about that cause it just creates excitement for later.

[eternal river]

What we have so far: they stole one of the hyper-super-duper artifacts from Auction House using a school-level anomaly (Cheese), and the worst thing they did so far was to put puppets and make some noise on Bagel to get people worried. As far as antagonists go it's pretty low bar on how antagonists should enter the stage

ah yeah, almost killed or killed one single taxi driver

[violet burrow]

and got defeated on their first major fight with us. she looks strong but kinda fumbled

mh nvm i dont think that was bad. it would feel bad to see appraiser get beat up when they are supposed to be special too.

[high plinth]

All of that was pretty much just to attract our attention, Eibon and specifically Daffodil

They’ll have their moments to f some shit up later

[eternal river]

still, very low bar. Capturing MC would be a decent entrance bar without killing half the city

[high plinth]

This is hardly an entrance, it’s more of a scouting

We have seen two maybe three SL mofos at most

Which besides, I doubt they’re the main antagonist force

Bunch of orphan espers and their big mean mummy? Eh

[eternal river]

well, if it's not an entrance, then this underscores why current story teaser is unsatistying.

[main plank]

Zankou can fight pretty well, but being strong in battle isn't what she leans on to be a compelling villain

[high plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-11119519098820520575

Besides I don’t think she fumbled, she probably just read the room and pissed off

[eternal river]

she has a compelling character for villain (nasty and controversial enough with some hidden depth). Besides character villains need actions that setup them as a force to recon with

[main plank]

(Which is why she doesn't need to overpower the heroes in her first appearance, as one might expect of a major villain)

[high plinth]

If villains need actions then idk what Zankou needs because she won, we lost in MSQ4

[uncut mortar]

Can someone drop Patty's home address?

Nvm I'll just look for it myself

If it's even possible 💔

[eternal river]

My point is their scale of villainity is on par with a modern vtuber making a mess on socials and maybe making a few person feel very bad, very low impact

[high plinth]

My point is that Zankou is hot

[eternal river]

Unfortunately, I don't vibe with her chara design at all. Looks like a gypsy to me, all over the place

[main plank]

Scale isn't what matters, certainly not in a small-scale, intimate story like ch4. She gaslit the hell out of our girl Renee, that's villainy right there

I've seen plenty of people say "I'll never forgive Zankou for what she did to Renee", even though Renee's life ended up better on balance as a result. That's a writing success

[lucid stream]

She wanted to steal Reene's anomaly eye, which she did. Trying to screw everyone over and wounding Daffodil was just for the love of the game.

[eternal river]

gaslighting poor girl with dementia 🥲 Evil - yes. Threatening? No

[lucid stream]

She tried to stop people who were trying to save Reene's life from the Debt Collect. Which is a more evil than "just" gaslighting.

[high plinth]

What kinda gypsies do you know that look like Zankou lmao

If you can HIT ME UP

[main plank]

I dunno, I think you're too fixated on power levels here...

[eternal river]

I totally wouldn't recommend to hit on a gypsy 🫡

[eternal river]

not power levels. Danger levels

[high plinth]

[main plank]

She also tried to kill a helpless Nanally just to screw with Daffodill. Real nasty stuff. But the main thing is what she did rather than what she unsuccessfully tried to do; the latter is easy to forgive.

[lucid stream]

I don't think Zankou is a gypsy. I think her design is supposed to be a opposite to Daffodil's.
While Daff's is black and blue, Zankou's is (mostly) white and red.
Daff's design is very orderly, Zankou's is chaotic.
Both wear eye patches on opposite sides, Daff's eye patch is only seem during her fight mode while Zankou's takes hers off to power up during fights.

[alpine peak]

So both are baddies

[main plank]

Zankou's outfit is Japanese-inspired, not gypsy

[high plinth]

She reminds him of a gypsy because it’s all over the place and has a whole lot of contrasting colours

But I think he’s referring to thr traveler kind of gypsy

[main plank]

True (Zankou is the hotter one though)

[lucid stream]

I want both to abuse me and call me names, so yes

[high plinth]

Shiii mf calm down

[lucid stream]

I'm calm, I put something tamer first but the server blocked me so I put something more unhinged to test it and it went through.

[high plinth]

Lmaoooo

Goofy ahh automod

[wide ridge]

Can ZZZ chars fit in NTE?

I think if they moved in, they'll blend in well. Same with Limbus Company chars, Maplestory chars and Starcraft chars.

[lucid stream]

I think Horus from Warhammer 40k and Taygedo would make a great duo.

[eternal river]

Taygedo can remake the God Emperor, and his throne too

[high plinth]

Mfs acting like they’re not all getting executed for heresy 😂

[lucid stream]

"Taygedo warn Emperor of Horus's treachery. Taygedo bypass psycher wall, blame on Magnus if it goes wrong"

[echo agate]

One funny thing I've noticed is Hotori's time stop doesn't stop the shooting star. It just keeps on choochin' when everything else is frozen. No idea if there's lore implications there or if it's just a developer oversight.

[lucid stream]

Developer oversight, there are tons of things that don't stop with her ability in the game.

[violet burrow]

could be oversight or that theres limited range for her time stop. she could just lack the power to stop time past the general vacinity or past hethereau. also not sure if it was clarified in game if its literal time stop or if shes just moving at a extremely high speed.

[eternal river]

she also doesn't stop grass from waving. All powers are limited

[high plinth]

it is a time stop

she is the witch of time

[trail shell]

^^^

[eternal river]

not sure about stop, maybe more like a huge slowdown

[high plinth]

what makes you unsure

ill be damned

well f me then

[trail shell]

Oh it actually does say nearly halts time, haha

[trail shell]

You were right! 🙂

[high plinth]

idk why they make the distinction but sure ig

slowing time down for everyone except for herself still screws with physics enough to make 0 sense so idk why to specify "nearly halts"

[trail shell]

I think it helps allow flexibility with plot lines, like if they introduced a character who could move at the speed of loght or whatnot

[violet burrow]

for lore accuracy probably. cant be mad at it. some games like wuwa say augusta stops time in her kit im pretty sure but in lore shes just moving extremely fast

[violet burrow]

also nearly stops time and stopped time is leagues apart. they arent close so its not like move slightly faster and bypass it. you either have to have the ability to negate it or have infinite/immeasurable speed

[high plinth]

they are pretty much the same pragmatically

[eternal river]

because maths and Einstein

[high plinth]

it is impossible to stop time anyway

[violet burrow]

only if hotta keeps the powerscaling where its at rn or less. once characters start getting more abilites and stuff, those things matter. we already have things that make this stuff matter. atleast if you want to keep the verse consistent and make sense

[violet burrow]

its fiction so its not impossible😂

[trail shell]

To pivot the conversation a bit, does anyone else think the Dvorak family is going to be antagonistic or story relevant in the future? I feel like theyre mentioned too much to just be your lovable trillionaires

[violet burrow]

i think they will definitely be in the story at some point but i dont think they are bad.

[fading sundial]

What is Daffodil's role at Eibon? I don't have her so I can't check her profile.

[violet burrow]

shes the bodyguard for eibon. shes been there after adler and hotori but before the kids

[trail shell]

I do think ‘ethical rich person’ is a character archetype that I never see in media so it would be interesting for NTE to explore it tbh. I do think they’ll be in the story, maybe Giovanni’s children or one of his ex wives

I think I saw someone say Giovanni has a daughter “Kolisnay” or something, but I haven’t came across her in the story/game yet

[high plinth]

how do you bypass any of the two

[violet burrow]

maybe i think hes good because of the money he provides for us😂

[trail shell]

For real!! Also I want him to be dethroned on the Pawbes Rich list lol

[sick cosmos]

apparently it doesn't stop agent luck in BAC's HQ too

bro is op

[fading sundial]

In game doesn't she also reset momentum for cars that go over ledges?

[violet burrow]

moving near stopped time just needs near the speed of light movement. faster than light movement already allows time travel in lots of media.

infinite speed bypasses it because it requires you to move a finite distance in 0 time or a infinite distance in a finite amount of time

immeasurable speed is moving outside the flow of linear time. speed is distance over time but if time is removed then its immeasurable and is above infinite speed. you can freely move across time with this speed. this is the actual requirement to move in frozen time but lots of media just use FTL.

[high plinth]

this makes 0 sense

[violet burrow]

how so? its real math thats used to make fictional things make sense.

[high plinth]

no??? speed stops existing as a concept when time isnt applicable

[violet burrow]

not true, we are talking about a fictional video game. ur basically saying thousands of pieces of fiction are just yapping random words and showing random pictures or videos

[high plinth]

yes? lmao that is the whole point of fiction

speed is distance over time but if time is removed then it's immesurable and above infinite speed
this doesn't make it immesurable, this just means there isn't speed

a better word for it would be undefined, not immesurable

[violet burrow]

movement while the flow of linear time is stopped. what would that be? how would anyone make sense of bugs bunny moving through space or whatever

[high plinth]

you don't make sense of it

it's magical jargon done because it looks cool

[trail shell]

To reuse your words though, ‘they are pretty much the same pragmatically’ 😅

[violet burrow]

people want the story they are consuming to make sense. if thats the case then any debate that was made here was not needed and was for no reason

bob just snapped this guy out of existence. how did he do it and how serious is it? u can name or catagorize everything that happens in a fictional world. atleast to a point in which we can somewhat understand it

[high plinth]

"pragmatically" stops being usable when debating theoretics

[violet burrow]

ur talking about a game with espers and anomolies but are bringing up realism to a unreasonable amount. everyone knows its not possible but that doesnt mean people dont combine real world things with fictional things just to understand it better

[high plinth]

i was just surprised that you brought up countering stopped time

[violet burrow]

which is a thing in countless pieces of media. marvel, DC, children cartoons, anime, games, movies.

[high plinth]

you need physics and realism to justify countering stopped/halted time with speed of light to do shittery with relativism, when stopping time is pretty much justifiable with "magic bullshit"

which is where the problems arise because when you bring physics and realism into the fray is when you get people like me saying "this makes 0 sense"

[sick cosmos]

Yeah why use math to try to make sense of it but not taking physics into account

[violet burrow]

ok😂. i told u why nearly halted time and true time stop arent the same thing . if this is how ur gonna think then whatever. ur basically saying millions/billions of people are just wrong for thinking the way they are thinking

[uncut mortar]

Has anyone tried to locate where Patty currently is?
(It kinda implies that Patty might be a real person in the lore)

[high plinth]

do millions/billions of people actually think this lmao?

[sick cosmos]

I tried a bit in Miguel district but didn't succeed

[uncut mortar]

Me too, only a similar playground though

Hopes and prayers next update when they added more maps 🙏

[violet burrow]

do millions/billions of people want to make sense of what they are consuming? yes

to what extent idk. theres millions of disscussions online between people and groups on why and how things work. theres thousands of websites stuff that use the combined effort of multiple people to help others understand.

one of the main reasons people use fandom is for powerscaling.

[high plinth]

ah fuc it

it doesn't need to make sense

[violet burrow]

doesnt need to but people want it to.

[high plinth]

i can see that

going the speed of light could be the way to counter a time stop

[violet burrow]

yep.

[eternal river]

tbh, the distinction might indicate that this is not a simulation storywise for once

[high plinth]

it's physically and theoretically impossible while stopping time is logically impossible

but either one is cool

i dont see how they'd write "light speed" or "very fast" into the story tho, when hotori exists

[sick cosmos]

Imo it's just that sometimes it seems poorly done. Like all that speed of light debate with (sometime complicated) math jargon but not an ounce of relativity

[high plinth]

real

[sick cosmos]

I can be done well tho, I've watched someone make a DnD magic system based on math and physics, seems very cool

[high plinth]

i've seen a few similar debates and most of the time people just don't seem to have a clue about what they're talking about

which is like, of course you don't know what you're talking about, not a human alive does

this kind of theoretical physically impossible nonsense cannot be discussed while trying to have it make sense

[eternal river]

people forget that Science Fiction was about going as close as possible to science in fiction. Not in the last 20 years or so unfortunately

true SciFi should always be on the fringe of possible and impossible, which is why the distinction becomes important

[sick cosmos]

Maybe I'm just tired of those powerscaling debates idk

[high plinth]

i honestly kind of respect these powerscalers for trying to have it make sense

[violet burrow]

ofc theres a limit to what makes actual sense. u can explain how someone erased another character from existence and how severe it was but how EXACTY was he erased? that just comes down to "idk it just worked" all the things ive been explaining can be used in discussions and does make sense but then everyone hits the limit.

[high plinth]

i guess

[violet burrow]

not like people are saying random words.

[north kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/saved-click-downloaded-gif-16291886

[sick cosmos]

Yeah but it stops making sense from FTL, idk how you can scale outside of statements from the author

[eternal river]

I am surprised there is no Warp Speed definition there

[high plinth]

time more or less becomes relatively unaplicable when you reach speed of light

[eternal river]

wait, is this GURPS rulebook or something

[violet burrow]

theres plenty of authors that write their stories with powerscaling in mind. following the same rules as everyone else who powerscales. how do u explain a character moving in stopped time or walking to the past or being everywhere at once? what makes the most sense is what i sent above. obviously not how does it work in real life

[violet burrow]

this is from fandom so idk what rulebook they use. idek what gurps is

[violet burrow]

thats definitely explained somewhere else. u would have to look it up and not just speed tiers

[sick cosmos]

idk I personally I'm not interested, at least not this deep. Like "what could you do with that?" is fun but I'm not interested in powerscaling supraluminal stuff.

It's up to personal preference. Just like making theories about the story.

Good for you if you enjoy it

[high plinth]

honestly didnt know that people took it this seriously enough for there to be unified powerscaling rules

i mean if people are having fun debating this who am i to judge

[violet burrow]

thats understandable. these rules change often too. there used to be a speed called irrelevant that was above immeasurable and below omnipresent. they removed it though because it was highly debated.

[eternal river]

well, that exists for 30 years already. GURPS system is DND for scifi and they unified many things, because your characters are expected to progress starting from stone age towards ultimate intelligence societies (if you want to)

I wouldn't be surprised if Kardashev scale is verbatim in that rulebook 😅

[eternal river]

so... they removed it because irrelevant speed became opposite of irrelevant?

[violet burrow]

lol i started typing then i realised the joke😂

[wispy zephyr]

is there a site/database with all of the index entries. kind of losing my over missing just one

[amber cairn]

kokoro rider is a fraud

[teal rain]

mhm the biggest fraud

never seen a bigger fumble since taygedo

[amber cairn]

im sorry hathor, but im throwing my kokoro rider merch

[humble basin]

Question.

When in the game's story/progression did "A Research in Scarlet" happen?

[eternal river]

wdym? It's the last currently available MQ, so it should be the last one chronologically

[humble basin]

Ah, I was looking at the survey because I'm focusing side stuff before progressing main stuff.

[teal rain]

naurrsss

dont do it he just a random bad egg the series is still peak trust

[hardy scaffold]

He is a pred 😭

[hardy scaffold]

I mean the lamp guy told you its not gonna be to your liking do don’t expect much

[hazy inlet]

Tbh I actually liked it

[hardy scaffold]

Patty story was amazing

[hazy inlet]

Not the things he did but the vibe of the story was amazing, seeing mc that mad was nice

[hardy scaffold]

Ye its good the concept of justice was done really well

[hazy inlet]

Real

[polar oxide]

Ah

Asking because some seem to be ex people

[hardy scaffold]

I also love everything about the akane quest it was all soo worth it. And the pay off was fucking amazing

[amber cairn]

i will trade taygedo for puff

[sick cosmos]

they should have made tageydo mute and give a voice actor to frizzle

[junior hare]

maiyue mission made me CRY

[high plinth]

What mission?

[sick cosmos]

With baicang

[high plinth]

Oh that one

[sick cosmos]

The flower stuff

[junior hare]

probably my favorite mission so far not gonna lie

[high plinth]

Eh what’s so sad about it

[junior hare]

............what do you mean

[sick cosmos]

I did not expect Baicang to be this goofy

[junior hare]

a young boy struggling to communicate with the world around him so he goes to an anomaly to try and fix his problem and just becomes even more stuck than before?

maybe i just relate to it deeply because im autistic

[sick cosmos]

i didn't follow the family's history (the ones with the mansion) well but maiyue's part was good

[junior hare]

same 😭 him continuing to poke fun at skia's "fursuit"

[high plinth]

I’m too much of a chopped chud to relate sry

[junior hare]

dont be sorry

[high plinth]

Part that impacted me the most was his parents the way they were so desperate

[junior hare]

we all relate to different things differently fr

[high plinth]

Parent son love like that really gets the heart thumping

They really did love the kid and seeing the way they acted

Kolinsa, likely characterhood candidate

[sick cosmos]

even garuda members couldn't bear with his bs

[wispy anchor]

is all of this explorable from the jump? or is a bunch of it locked off for future versions?

[main plank]

there are some places (the theme park, for example) that aren't accessible rn and are clearly there to be implemented in future patches

[sick cosmos]

btw, is New Helios a Hethereau district or a different city ?

[main plank]

different city

[sick cosmos]

ok

[lucid stream]

How did Eibon got around the city before Zero showed up?
Hotori is never without alcohol in her blood, so shouldn't drive.
Adler is blind, so NNNNOOOOOOO.
Daffodil has bad eye sight and no license.
The rest are all underage, so also super illegal.

[main plank]

ig they called taxis

[lucid stream]

Probably buses, considering Eibon is also poor most of the time.

[vale beacon]

Or walking

[raw hatch]

Whoooo are the coluccis and why does Nanally keep letting this in my damn ear

I regret pulling for her

[sick cosmos]

Nanally, Edgar, Sakiri and Zero basically

Apart from the "what's that smell? smells amazing" line I think she's ok

[raw hatch]

Every time I switch to her she’s yelling about the coluccis

It’s actually driving me insane

[sick cosmos]

Her gacha skin is so bad, I wish I pulled Hotori's one instead

[raw hatch]

Hotori’s is so much worse

It’s so hideous 💔

I don’t understand why it looks like Carlotta

But I’m also wondering why Lacrimosa talks like it’s physically painful

[main plank]

it's not as good as her normal outfit but no way is it hideous

[raw hatch]

Bro I have it it’s literally bait

[sick cosmos]

They should have given Nanally some mafia-based skin

[raw hatch]

Literally

Why is her level 10 bond her very best skin

[sick cosmos]

The base one is better imo

[raw hatch]

I don’t like the big ol jacket

[deep tangle]

How to even get enough pulls for outfit 200 is insane i barely get enough dice for that

[sick cosmos]

If you have luck you can land on the outfit cell on the board

I had Nanally's skin at like 20 pulls and Nanally at 75 pulls 💀

[main plank]

if you completely skipped Nanally you can definitely get to 200
if you spent very many pulls on Nanally, you need to either get lucky or swipe credit card

[lucid stream]

Man, living in the NTE universe must suck.
"Forgot a tape on? Anomaly"
"Left the sink open? Anomaly"
"Lost your keys? Anomaly, straight up."
"Feeling sad? Believe or not, anomaly."

[fading sundial]

Someone shared a scary story and it reached a couple thousand people and now there's a collective nightmare for the next couple days?

Anomaly.

[deep tangle]

I spent just trying to get hotori herself lol

[main plank]

it's said that most anomalies are helpful or at least harmless
as far as fictional worlds go, I think NTE's isn't so bad, at least if you're not unlucky enough to get caught up in a New Helios Hypervortex kind of incident

[lucid stream]

Deathly Vortexes that spawn super deathly gravity rain shouldn't be in anyone list of concerns really.

[real veldt]

change the language lol

[teal rain]

It her made up gang that she tries to get people to join

[main plank]

Hmm. If you didn't spend any pulls on Nanally, then you should definitely be able to get to 200 by the time her banner ends, if you do enough of the content.

[sick cosmos]

subtitles are kinda bugged on my side so i need the dub (they're cut before the sentence ends)

[real veldt]

200 pulls is how much irl money?

[main plank]

If you have 0 pulls rn and you want to get all the way to 200 just by buying? I don't know exactly, but I'm sure it's crazy expensive

[main plank]

on the other hand, if you didn't pull on Nanally's banner, 200 pulls could be as low as $0 because there are that many available for free in the game

[elder socket]

No cause the minute I saw it I blurted out “Is that Astra Yao!!????” 😭

https://tenor.com/view/astra-yao-zenless-zone-zero-ultimate-animation-gacha-game-new-eridu-gif-4322678166800264865

[teal rain]

Funny enough it between 210 or 300 usd I believe

[real veldt]

that's wild lol

[main plank]

I think it's more than that actually
If you really want instant gratification from spending $ on a gacha, it will be EXPENSIVE

okay, 200 pulls * 160 annulith per pull = 32000 total needed
which will cost you about $500

[fossil cradle]

I dunno if it's necessarily made up when she evidently does have squads of dudes

[vale beacon]

She doesn't have squads of dudes

Those that appear during taygeyo date are people from sterry express

[last kelp]

Nanally's obsession with people joining the Coluccis could stem from various reasons.

1. The Coluccis actually do exist and she’s a mole in gaining potential talent from Eibon and/or elsewhere.
2. Delusions of grandeur that could be a part of the price she pays for her Esper Ability.
3. Fallen familia that she wants to revive via herself.

[dense cosmos]

Combine the fact she didn't have alot of friends in the past either due to either moving, events or any other excuses. So she wants people to join her.

[lucid stream]

I think it's a mix of 2 and 3.

Except the delusion of grandeur is not part of any part, it's just her ego.

[eternal river]

You guys need to watch at least her trailer instead of making things up

[lucid stream]

I could go back and watch those, but the game shouldn't need it to fill gaps.

[eternal river]

yeah, it shouldn't, but gacha is gacha

[dense cosmos]

I mean it's more heavily on the trailer side of things where she just wants friends. Even if she dose act like a big Mob boss

[last kelp]

Which trailer? The one with her in the middle of fighting rivaling mafia familias?

Cause even then, it's already been mentioned in-game that Hotori found her passed out in front of Eibon.

[dense cosmos]

The animated short where she was once human before turning into a diet furry.

[last kelp]

Like, most of the Eibon characters are people who are somehow gathered by Hotori.

Also, there's a loading screen blurb that explains that all Esper Ability Awakenings have a price to pay.

[eternal river]

yes, but there is nuance. It's not that she didn't have friends, she had a bunch of them, it's that they left her for various reasons. So one of the reasons she wants to establish a mafia family because she thinks those are more long-term connections

[dense cosmos]

I keep.forgetting there biographies. I am gonna have to start reading about them when I am off

[wispy anchor]

so nana cat ears are the only ears she got?

I don't see human ears as well, so I guess they are not mutated humans but a completely different species?

[eternal river]

it seems she was human before acquiring Esper Cycle, so probably mutated

[dense cosmos]

Skia got pretty heavily Mutated

[upper hearth]

and then discriminated kpijhuygut. poor guy

[dense cosmos]

I love Speicisms

We need more Furries

[last kelp]

I think most Esper Ability Awakenings follow the rule of equivalent exchange.

[fringe veldt]

ice map???

talking about future updates

[pulsar oyster]

Hi I'm newbie, what thing i should mention

[open berry]

You should mention that you love NTE

https://tenor.com/view/nanally-sakiri-nte-gif-14983091468387348696

[upper hearth]

The mafia thing was one of my favorite moments so far in NTE. Even if it was part of the taygedo quest

[teal rain]

they should give nanally an actual home base

that we can visit fr

[jagged hamlet]

I have yet to do all of the side quests, but apparently some of them are gut punches
It goes to show that the Gintama vibes are accurate at least in part

[teal rain]

also i saw another group mention a cruise ship out in the sea maybe it will happen for a event

[thin matrix]

Just checking if I understood everything from ep 4 (obviously spoilers)
||Zankyou is Daffodill older sister, from the "mother" she said she had and probably scaped, and Zankyou also faked being in the Constantine family in the past along with the entire anomaly realm, just to trick Renne into giving her the Eternal Present?||
||Btw whats the thing with debt collector and constantine family? I understood the whole "Dolores gave her the Eternal present" thing after every of her children had died (or were dying), but didnt quite gasp what Debt collector were taking away from Renee. Was it her life time or smth?||

[fringe veldt]

looking at the last 2 things i need to 100% the map

[teal rain]

||It was her life form but since she was immortal it didnt do anything to her and kept trying to take it but couldn't||

[thin matrix]

||Were it stated somewhere that it also did the same thing with Dolores? Because what I understood from the quest is that the Eternal present gave them both something that shouldnt be possible, which is taking away their mortality, and thus, it were after Renee. But wouldnt it be weird if it didnt go for Dolores as well?||

[jagged hamlet]

I also like the variety of anomalies and how various people deal with them, from the average citizen (elevator anomaly is advised to be ignored for one year because it naturally nullifies) to crooks (Picky in general) to companies

[teal rain]

||It did effect Dolores and she died after giving her immortal to her and died shortly after that and the thing only came into effect after renee woke up so all of this was very recent within time it just seem like there was a large group inbetween when it started and when everyone died||

[teal rain]

those people are idiots the amount of time i seen someone get eaten by a telephone booth and a vending machine is crazy and how they get harass by the music thing x-x

OMG AND WORSE OF ALL THE FLIES

[thin matrix]

||Makes sense 🤔 damn, this quest was GOOD||

[jagged hamlet]

I remember seeing a flat-broke guy being harassed by three of those, and he even mentions robbers leaving some Fons for him

[teal rain]

||Indeed but i feel like they repeat things a bit to much to get there point across but it was still good felt like that one where bella was speaking to dolores could of had been explain better and not in a repeat way||

[teal rain]

yeah that the one i keep seeing over and over and questioning why he just still there

[jagged hamlet]

I've also seen the guy harassed by the record players, but the guy eventually says he's enjoying the music

[thin matrix]

||Yeah, felt the same. At like 2 hours of quest I got fed up with it and had to rest down a bit though when I got back it felt really good||

[teal rain]

Mhm but i enjoy it and cant wait to see what new for 1.1 and hope they don't listen to this ungrateful fucks and remove future stories of the gang hanging out outside of plot

[eternal river]

I think we just need to have more action at Eibon. Currently we just go there to sleep 95% of the time

[teal rain]

idc what people say taygedo story was needed he was annoying but everything else was fun, feels like gachas dont like characters just messing around with each other if it not in events

i want other quest with another character focus maybe a whole side story of the kids and hotori hanging out fr going shopping or something fun mhm

or another peak band quest i wanna know how famous we are fr

[teal rain]

yeah i agree but im at least happy the quests always start there so it does seem like we're there often

[violet burrow]

when it comes to eibon, i think it would be cool to have it be added to the tycoon somehow. let us clean it up and make it look good and let us manage commissions and stuff. let us make eibon into the best anomoly hunter group

[eternal river]

Also kinda sucks we can't furnish Eibon room. I would rather furnish it than huge penthouses we have

[violet burrow]

exactly

[thin matrix]

We'll get that when hotori stops using her money to buy alcohol

💀

[teal rain]

ooo maybe bounty

[violet burrow]

well that still shouldnt be a problem. appraiser already makes enough money to buy everyone at eibon whatever they want on top of managing it

[teal rain]

ok to be fair in the story eyes were broke ass fuck

[violet burrow]

i hate how the game still acts like appraiser is homeless with no money or car.

[eternal river]

erm... I wouldn't be so sure. #JensonLivesMatter #NeverForget200M

[teal rain]

also idk if anyone saw this but there is some bs. did everyone see what hotori rank is in the wealth board?

[violet burrow]

lol just stay away from the auction house.

[thin matrix]

Yup

[eternal river]

maybe it's not real... maybe we steal fake money from Paws, and Paws Bank just pretends we buy houses

[teal rain]

also random thing i love how there is lore in us getting money in quest bc we are getting paid fr and it dont seems so random rewards now mhm

i never felt so happy getting random money before til fons existed

thanks to my random quest finding i got to decor me apartment 🥹

[fading sundial]

At the very least we probably have a basic scooter and car, right?

[eternal river]

I have a fear I would leave a game un-paused once and those fonskitoes will drain me of my bloody fons 😭 Some of the spawns are way too close to tp points /j

[violet burrow]

it really wouldnt make sense for us to not have those.

[violet burrow]

how much fons do they take? i didnt know they take fons

[eternal river]

1 fons per hit But I am joking. It would drain like minus 2000-3000 fons per hour

[violet burrow]

hey those 2000 fons are important

[eternal river]

let it go, back into the system. Supports economy and wildlife

[teal rain]

i also hate how the fly follows u for a long period of time x-x like i remember climbing a building for the fish and i saw below me it just following me all the way up the building 😭

[eternal river]

It would be fun if there was a rare event with like 100 of those to spawn. On a beach somewhere 😅 now that would be stressful

also I wouldn't ever want to anger Chiz. She drains 1500 fons per hit. Now that would be a stressful boss fight

[teal rain]

i'll cry

im so happy u can one shot them

if not that would of had been the most fear thing

[wide ridge]

Soo

Who or what is the Circle?

[fading sundial]

Isn't that just the various organizations in charge of handling Anomalies? BAC, ETD, Zolon Labs or whatever, etc?

[violet burrow]

ETD is part of BAC. the circle is either a entity above BAC, Yggash court, and others or BAC, Yggash court, and others are the Circle

[jagged hamlet]

In Control terms, the Circle is the Board

[bold pelican]

just random design? i wonder if there are symbols on other charas too hotori also has the arachne flower bloom pattern on her dress

[fading sundial]

I think eyes of that regard might be related to Anomalies in general. We see those on the film reel backgrounds of Swallowtail.

Apparently Hathor's stuff is pretty bad, to the point where she needs either Jiuyuan or Haniel to help supress her abilities?

Could be a very unironic 'cursed hand' kind of style.

[violet burrow]

i was just reading stuff and this reminded me of ur question. this just reinforces what i thought earlier. i definitely think they are good guys now but i wouldnt be surpised if they werent

[teal rain]

and they let us do heist fr

[bold pelican]

how to they profit off of letting us do the heist?

[teal rain]

by the fail greedy robbers and tax payers fr totally

[violet burrow]

its a 1m cap and they are trillionairs that can easily make more. even 100 particapants wouldnt scratch their wallet

[teal rain]

i personally think heist was only a thing bc of how they show us how much profit chiz made them in her ep fr

[fading sundial]

Their wealth is More Than Everyone Else.

Apparently Ladon, an Anomaly, has a contract with them and they just breathe enough wealth to make Scrooge McDuck green with envy.

Literally "we have more money than we know what to do with, so why not donate to charity and make an Anomalous Heist based off a movie?"

[bold pelican]

so who is mammon? their guard dog? i thought he was the one with the moni

[fading sundial]

Mammon is the trash panda/dragon hoarder that wandered into their backyard and went 'Ooh, a piece of candy!'.

And the Dvorac's didn't care enough to do anything about it so they just let him stay. That or they thought it'd be nice to have a free guard dog.

About 90% of this is my own interpretation, but it's not technically incorrect.

[violet burrow]

3 days late but yea here is where it says that espers can be born with their powers

[fading sundial]

Mammon Lore Screenshots.

[fading sundial]

Mammon Lore Screenshots

[fading sundial]

Yeah, backyard trash panda that wandered in apparently isn't that far off from the truth.

[hazy inlet]

That was a chunk to read

[last kelp]

I think Mammon would be considered a Keter-class Anomaly under SCP ruling

[violet burrow]

the SCP world has a much higher scaling than NTE rn. mammon would be relatively easy to contain. a keter level SCP would be very dangerous in the NTE world assuming it was aggressive

[last kelp]

Just a reminder that SCP classifications are not based on the danger level of an SCP as what NTE does with Anomalies. It's based on the difficulty of permanent containment (or in NTEs' case, permanent nullification).

[violet burrow]

yea ik. i could be wrong but mammon hasnt really shown much other than its physical prowess which is impressive but nothing extreme. if thats all thats needed to be worried about then its a very easy containment.

[last kelp]

Easy containment probably but you'll never really contain Mammon cause of the desires of humans

At best, Euclid. At worst, high Keter based on the lore bomb about Mammon above

[violet burrow]

yea theres things that could definitely put mammon in keter

[fallow lava]

https://tenor.com/view/smaug-treasure-rich-dragon-the-hobbit-gif-11677489

[last kelp]

Ironically, Mammon doesn't like the gold coins because they are gold coins. Mammon like gold coins because everyone desires them so much.

[fallow lava]

Giving off rings of power and Smaug vibes

[last kelp]

That's why it's in the Pink Paws HQ Bank Vault in the Heist

Because that big vault stinks of the desires of men

[wispy zephyr]

omg i need to ask but do you have all the glossary index entries

[wispy zephyr]

shit im the same

[fading sundial]

I think most people are stuck at 51/52 for some reason.

[wispy zephyr]

i wish there was a database that had all of the index entries somehow cause i also have 58/64 anomalies

hoping that the 52nd glossary entry is like associated with 1.1 stuff, like how lacrimosa's sig arc is in the arc index

[dense cosmos]

Isn't like Bounty classified as a Anomaly being a hassle to deal with and a threat?

[wispy zephyr]

basically, they are anomaly that people/espers should be on alert for risk of encountering or important to neutralize. like picky and cheese need to be monitored for people not to misuse. while serenti you need esper actively saving people from becoming its gardener

[dense cosmos]

Serenti is a bonified a hole

[wispy zephyr]

also aurelia talk, i do love in her own character story her legs literally get offscreened, it goes for "my ability is kind of boring and i lost my sense of direction and struggle to walk home" into "sorry doctor says your legs are screwed"

the only reference that alludes to how she lost her legs is one line talking about how she regrets trying to nullify swallowtail... and that is it, love aurelias gameplay and all but girl's story is quite laughable tbh

[teal rain]

im a bit upset how the devs say we can learn more about her in story but she dont have a story it just the band thing x-x

[dense cosmos]

The band thing. Could be related to Swallowtail

[wispy zephyr]

and even in the night of the moondog story, she is barely even haunting the narriitive, like sorry your old band split up but you really didnt say that much...

[fading sundial]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh crapbaskets.

I doubt the missing member of their band is actually her, but Swallowtail was one a Human. Not sure if all Swallowtails are the same entity or just a reoccuring form, but that's a fun thought.

[teal rain]

im hoping when akane comes out we go have a quest again but with her and aurelia we need more contextttt

[wispy zephyr]

true, in swallowtail index its very malicious and straight up kills people, but that is because swallowtail ability is based in vision and illusions. only esper hunters who attack is directly experience real harm

[fading sundial]

Swallowtail Screenshots Lore for future searchers.

[wispy zephyr]

also swallowtail anomalous zone and theming is all about movies and video which is a tad different from performing at the night of moondog which is its whole own anomaly

[fading sundial]

Yeah, I don't think it points to Swallowtail being their missing member, but at the very least they did go up against it.

[dense cosmos]

I mean Akane was crapping her pants and pissed at the girls for messing with Bopp

[wispy zephyr]

true, so fair to assume some anomaly-based trauma

[dense cosmos]

Feels like the band thing is related to a Anomaly attack. Either because of Swallowtail or something worse

[wispy zephyr]

i do hope we get a second parts to the whoooots!!!! sage just to learn more about akane and aurelias and the 3rd member whose name im blanking on

suzuha is her name